Latest / Tech Talks With Kinsoft / Partnered Health – A GP Network Breach, 21 Clinics, and a Court Order Against Criminals
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- 0:00You know, when you walk into your local doctor's
- 0:01office, there is there's this very specific,
- 0:06almost comforting illusion at play. Oh, absolutely.
- 0:10Like you see the familiar receptionist, you notice
- 0:12those, you know, slightly outdated magazines
- 0:14sitting on the glass table. Usually from about
- 0:17five years ago. Yeah, exactly. And you hear the
- 0:19quiet hum of the waiting room. It just feels
- 0:21small, right? It feels entirely contained. And
- 0:24that local feeling. I mean, it's very intentional.
- 0:26It creates the intimacy that's really necessary
- 0:29for good health care. Right. Because you trust
- 0:31that the conversation you're about to have behind
- 0:34that closed door stays right there in that room
- 0:37or at most inside like. a manila folder in a
- 0:41locked metal filing cabinet. But that's the illusion
- 0:43right there. Yeah, because behind that reception
- 0:45desk, behind that whole friendly neighborhood
- 0:48clinic vibe, there is almost always this massive,
- 0:51invisible corporate IT system operating in the
- 0:54background. Doing all the heavy lifting. Right.
- 0:56So welcome to the deep dive. This one is custom
- 1:00tailored for the learner. We know you are always
- 1:03looking to understand the hidden systems running
- 1:05our world. And you know, you want the actionable
- 1:08takeaways without getting bogged down in the
- 1:10noise, which is exactly what we're going to do
- 1:12today. Today, we are relying on this really fascinating
- 1:15recent cybersecurity report by the experts at
- 1:18Kinsoft. So, OK, let's unpack this because we're
- 1:22looking at exactly what happens when that hidden
- 1:24corporate layer gets shattered by a major cybersecurity
- 1:27breach. Yeah. And the company at the center of
- 1:29this Kinsoft report, they're called Partnered
- 1:31Health. Partnered Health. Right. And that name
- 1:34might not ring a bell for you at all, which is
- 1:36by design. Because they're the parent company.
- 1:39Exactly. They operate as the corporate engine
- 1:42behind, gosh, more than 60 medical centers, skin
- 1:45cancer clinics, and allied health practices spread
- 1:48all across Australia. 60? Wow. Yeah. And to give
- 1:52you a sense of the sheer scale we are dealing
- 1:54with here, they state that their services have
- 1:56touched more than 5 million people since they
- 1:58were founded back in 2013. Wait, 5 million people?
- 2:025 million. That is a massive portion of the population
- 2:05just funneling their most sensitive data through
- 2:08one single corporate entity, mostly without ever
- 2:11knowing the parent company's actual name. It
- 2:14is a staggering amount of centralized data. Just
- 2:18huge. And in mid -July. Partnered Health confirmed
- 2:22basically the worst case scenario. It's a hack.
- 2:25Yeah. A malicious actor compromised their systems
- 2:27and stole a massive cache of personal and health
- 2:30information. Unbelievable. Based on the initial
- 2:33reporting, this breach impacts 21 of their clinics.
- 2:36This is across New South Wales, Victoria, Queensland,
- 2:40Western Australia, and Canberra. So it's basically
- 2:42nationwide. Pretty much. Specifically, 16 clinics
- 2:46are confirmed to have been affected, with another
- 2:47five still under active... Forensic investigation.
- 2:51Which means for you listening right now, even
- 2:53if you have never heard the words partnered health
- 2:55in your life. Which you probably haven't. Right.
- 2:56But if you visited one of those local clinics,
- 2:59you are tethered to their corporate security
- 3:01practices. You're inside their digital vault.
- 3:04Whether you realized it or not. Exactly. And
- 3:06because that vault held health data, the fallout
- 3:10here is entirely different than your standard
- 3:12corporate hack. Oh, completely different league.
- 3:15So let's look at the actual inventory of what
- 3:17was stolen because this gets incredibly invasive
- 3:20very quickly. It really does. The compromised
- 3:22data escalates in severity pretty fast. First,
- 3:26the company confirmed the theft of what we call
- 3:28foundational identifiers. Like the basics. Right.
- 3:31Names, dates of birth, addresses, contact details.
- 3:34Not bad enough, but standard for a breach. Yeah,
- 3:37but then it crosses into structural government
- 3:39and financial data. We're talking Medicare numbers,
- 3:42private health insurance details, Veterans Affairs
- 3:45numbers, and concession card numbers. Okay, so
- 3:47that's a much bigger deal. It is. But the element
- 3:50that crosses a profound line. The one that really
- 3:53hurts is the exposure of what they call the clinical
- 3:56layer. The clinical layer, meaning the actual
- 3:59medical file. Yes. We are talking about consultation
- 4:02notes, referral letters and pathology and diagnostic
- 4:05results. Wow. The raw reality of people's physical
- 4:09and mental lives. Exactly. I mean, I always have
- 4:12to draw a contrast here when we talk about cyber
- 4:14attacks because people get breach fatigue, you
- 4:16know? Oh, for sure. You hear about it every week.
- 4:18Right. And if my credit card gets stolen in some
- 4:21retail breach, it's like. I don't know. It's
- 4:23like someone throwing a brick through my living
- 4:24room window. Yeah, it's a huge pain. It is a
- 4:27violation. It's highly annoying, yes. But I can
- 4:31call my bank. They cancel the card. The window
- 4:33gets repaired. And the structural integrity of
- 4:36my life is, you know, restored. It's fixable.
- 4:39Exactly. But stolen pathology reports. Stolen
- 4:43consultation notes. That is like someone stealing
- 4:46your actual DNA and your private diary at the
- 4:49exact same time. That's a really good way to
- 4:51put it. You cannot just call the bank and ask
- 4:52them to cancel your medical history. No, you
- 4:55definitely can't. And what's fascinating here
- 4:57is that the cybersecurity industry classifies
- 5:00those two scenarios entirely differently. How
- 5:02so? Well, medical records, they're referred to
- 5:05as crown jewel data. Crown jewel data. Yeah,
- 5:09because they inflict a permanent two -fold harm
- 5:12on the victim. The first harm is structural.
- 5:16Meaning the identity theft side of things. Exactly.
- 5:19This data represents the richest identity theft
- 5:21kit possible. A credit card number is just a
- 5:24temporary token. But your date of birth, your
- 5:28Medicare number, your biological reality, those
- 5:31are permanent identifiers. They don't just expire
- 5:33after three years. Right. They do not expire.
- 5:36Yeah. The hacker now holds a master key to your
- 5:39identity that works today, and it will still
- 5:42work a decade from now. And then the second harm
- 5:44is the diary aspect we talked about. Yes, the
- 5:47psychological violation. I mean, think about
- 5:49it. A consultation note isn't just a record of
- 5:51a flu shot. Right. It's everything. It contains
- 5:53details about mental health struggles, maybe
- 5:56severe family trauma or complex fertility issues.
- 6:00Stuff you haven't even told your best friends.
- 6:02Exactly. Exposing that goes far beyond financial
- 6:04fraud. It is weaponized humiliation and just
- 6:08a profound loss of privacy. Yeah, that's just
- 6:11devastating. Which is why crown jewel data requires
- 6:13crown jewel protection. It is absolutely not
- 6:16enough to just slap a password on a database
- 6:18and call it a day. So what does crown jewel protection
- 6:21actually look like in practice for a medical
- 6:24network of this size? It requires deep structural
- 6:28defenses. We are talking about rigorous encryption.
- 6:32Making it unreadable. Right. But not just when
- 6:35the data is being sent over the Internet. I mean
- 6:38encryption at rest. What does that mean, at rest?
- 6:41It means if a hacker manages to download the
- 6:44actual database file, it just looks like absolute
- 6:46gibberish without the decryption key. Ah, okay.
- 6:49So it's useless to them even if they steal it.
- 6:52Exactly. It also requires incredibly tight access
- 6:54controls. So a receptionist at one clinic in,
- 6:58say, Sydney, cannot magically access the pathology
- 7:01results of a patient at a completely different
- 7:04clinic in Perth. Which makes sense. They shouldn't
- 7:06need to. Right. And critically, it requires honest
- 7:08retention policies. Meaning how long they keep
- 7:11the data. Yeah. If a clinic does not have a strict
- 7:13medical or legal need to hold a decade -old record,
- 7:16they should delete it. Yeah. Why are they holding
- 7:18on to something from 2014? Exactly. It's just
- 7:20a liability at that point. And that is a lesson
- 7:23that extends way beyond just the doctor's office.
- 7:26I mean, if you run a local gym and you have new
- 7:29members fill out medical intake forms or, you
- 7:32know, if you're an employer collecting pre -employment
- 7:34medical screens, you are holding health data.
- 7:37Yes, you are. You are holding crown jewel. You
- 7:40absolutely are. And the moment those jewels are
- 7:42compromised, the clock starts ticking on how
- 7:45you handle the fallout. Which brings us to the
- 7:47timeline. Because the nature of this incredibly
- 7:50sensitive data really dictates the urgency of
- 7:52the response. It does. And the timeline in the
- 7:55Kensoft report is something we really need to
- 7:57dig into here. The initial intrusion into partnered
- 8:00health systems was detected on June 23rd. Right.
- 8:03However. The public disclosure, along with the
- 8:07direct SMS and email notifications that were
- 8:09sent to the patients, did not happen until around
- 8:11July 15th and 16th. Yeah, so that creates a 22
- 8:14-day gap. A 22 -day gap. Between the company
- 8:17realizing they had a major problem and the patients
- 8:20actually finding out their data was at risk.
- 8:22Wait, 22 days. If my most private medical notes
- 8:26and my Medicare number are floating around the
- 8:28dark web, I mean every single hour counts. Oh,
- 8:31people were furious. I can't help but look at
- 8:33a three -week delay and wonder if that is just
- 8:35corporate foot dragging. Like, are they just
- 8:38sitting in boardrooms trying to manage PR and
- 8:41get their spin right? That's usually the first
- 8:43thought people have, yeah. Or is there an actual
- 8:45legitimate technical reason it takes almost a
- 8:48month to send a text message to the people who
- 8:50are in danger? Look, it is a very natural reaction
- 8:53to view that gap with deep suspicion. Totally
- 8:57get it. But to understand the delay, we have
- 9:00to look at the actual mechanics of a forensic
- 9:03cyber investigation. Okay, walk me through it.
- 9:05When a breach is detected on June 23rd, The company
- 9:08isn't just sitting around writing press releases.
- 9:10They have to bring in digital forensic investigators
- 9:12to parse through literally terabytes of server
- 9:16logs. Trying to find the digital footprints.
- 9:18Right. They have to figure out if the hackers
- 9:20just looked at the data or if they actually exfiltrated,
- 9:23meaning they downloaded the data. Because looking
- 9:25at it and downloading it are two very different
- 9:27legal problems. Exactly. So they are trying to
- 9:30figure out the actual blast radius before they
- 9:32pull the fire alarm. That's the piece that takes
- 9:35time. During those 22 days, Partnered Health
- 9:38also formally reported the breach to the privacy
- 9:40regulator, the OAIC. Okay, so they were talking
- 9:44to the government. Yes. They brought in the Australian
- 9:46Cybersecurity Centre, law enforcement, and crucially,
- 9:50they had to notify Services Australia. Why Services
- 9:54Australia? That final step is vital so that the
- 9:58compromised Medicare card numbers can be flagged
- 10:01and actively monitored for fraud at a federal
- 10:03level. Ah. Okay, I understand they are coordinating
- 10:06with the authorities, which is good. But why
- 10:09not tell the patients immediately? It's tricky.
- 10:11Like, let the people inside the burning building
- 10:13know there is a fire, even if you don't know
- 10:15which specific rooms are burning yet. It sounds
- 10:18like the right thing to do, but because we're
- 10:19in the cybersecurity world, telling patients
- 10:22too early often causes more harm than good. Really?
- 10:25How so? Think about it. If you send a panic text
- 10:28on day two saying, hey... We have been hacked.
- 10:31Your data might be stolen. People will freak
- 10:34out. Thousands of patients will immediately call
- 10:36the clinics, jam the phone lines, and ask, was
- 10:39my specific pathology report taken? And the clinic
- 10:42won't know. Right. If the clinic cannot answer
- 10:44that question because the forensic log analysis
- 10:46isn't finished yet, you've just created mass
- 10:49panic without providing any actionable solution.
- 10:52Oh, I see. So you are saying a 22 -day turnaround
- 10:55is actually reasonable? Well, in the current
- 10:59landscape, 22 days from detection to notification
- 11:02is considered middle of the road. Middle of the
- 11:03road, okay. Yeah. It is significantly faster
- 11:06than the multi -month gaps we've seen in other
- 11:08major corporate breaches. Oh, yeah. Some take
- 11:10half a year. Right. Though it is still slower
- 11:12than the absolute gold standard of best practice.
- 11:15But your frustration is completely valid because
- 11:18every day of delay is a day that patients cannot
- 11:21put a freeze on their credit or, you know, watch
- 11:23out for targeted scams. Which means the real
- 11:26lesson here for any business is that you cannot
- 11:28wait for the breach to figure out how to communicate.
- 11:31That is the crucial takeaway. Companies need
- 11:34a fully baked notification playbook built well
- 11:37in advance. Like a fire drill. Exactly. Before
- 11:40a crisis ever hits, you need to know exactly
- 11:43who has the authority to draft the message. what
- 11:47channels you're going to use, like SMS, email,
- 11:50website banners, and what you are legally and
- 11:52ethically prepared to say on day one, day seven,
- 11:55and day 20. So when the clock starts ticking,
- 11:58you're just executing a highly rehearsed plan,
- 12:00not improvising in a state of panic. Exactly.
- 12:03And that forensic timeline and the massive scale
- 12:06of the investigation required actually reveals
- 12:08the structural flaw that caused this whole mess
- 12:11to begin with. It really does. Here's where it
- 12:13gets really interesting, because we have to talk
- 12:14about the mechanics of Data aggregation. The
- 12:17concentration problem. This is arguably the most
- 12:20systemic issue in modern IT architecture today.
- 12:23Right, because patients thought they were trusting
- 12:25their little local clinic down the street. The
- 12:27one with the outdated magazines? Exactly. But
- 12:29the breach didn't happen at the clinic on the
- 12:31corner. It happened at the giant network operator
- 12:33behind it. One single break -in compromised up
- 12:37to 21 different clinics. It's massive. I mean,
- 12:40imagine you think your money is locked inside
- 12:42a thick steel vault at your secure... small town
- 12:45bank. Sounds safe. Right. But what you don't
- 12:48know is that every single night, the bank secretly
- 12:51ships everyone's cash To a giant centralized
- 12:55warehouse out in the desert where 60 other banks
- 12:59also keep their money. And that giant warehouse
- 13:01only has one padlock on the front door. Yes.
- 13:04The convenience of putting everything in one
- 13:06shared platform creates this massive glowing
- 13:09bullseye for criminals. It really does. And if
- 13:12we connect this to the bigger picture, you are
- 13:14describing the vulnerability of cloud migration
- 13:16and shared infrastructure. Right. When a parent
- 13:19company like Partner Health acquires a local
- 13:20clinic, they rarely leave that clinic. independent,
- 13:23isolated IT system in place. They want it all
- 13:26integrated. Exactly. They migrate all that patient
- 13:29data into a centralized shared cloud tenant or
- 13:32a unified active directory. So all the local
- 13:35clinics are suddenly just swimming in the same
- 13:37digital pool. Yes. And that creates a vulnerability
- 13:40known as lateral movement. It's a lateral movement.
- 13:43Right. So if a hacker successfully fishes a receptionist's
- 13:46password at a single clinic in Perth, they don't
- 13:50just get the Perth data. They can move sideways?
- 13:52They can use those credentials to move laterally
- 13:55through the centralized corporate network and
- 13:57access database tables for clinics in Sydney
- 13:59or Brisbane. Wow. From a hacker's perspective,
- 14:03why even bother trying to pick the digital locks
- 14:06of 21 individual clinics when you can just breach
- 14:09the parent company's shared infrastructure once
- 14:12and get all of it? Exactly. It's an economy of
- 14:14scale for the bad guys. That's terrifying. And
- 14:17it poses critical questions that any business
- 14:19owner, practice manager, or really any consumer
- 14:22needs to ask. Absolutely. If you are handing
- 14:25your data up the chain to a group platform, you
- 14:27must ask who actually holds our data right now.
- 14:31Where does it physically live? Right. How exactly
- 14:33is it secured at that centralized warehouse level?
- 14:37And tying it back to our timeline discussion,
- 14:40how fast will they actually tell us if that central
- 14:43warehouse gets breached? Because once that central
- 14:46warehouse is breached, the data cannot be unstolen.
- 14:50the company is backed into a very, very difficult
- 14:53corner. Which perfectly explains how Partnered
- 14:55Health actually responded to the criminals in
- 14:58this case. Because the data was out, they couldn't
- 15:00put the genie back in the bottle, which led them
- 15:03to deploy the most unusual aspect of this entire
- 15:05story. Oh yeah, the legal response. The legal
- 15:08counterattack. It is a fascinating strategic
- 15:10pivot. Truly. So to set the scene, Partnered
- 15:13Health has refused to confirm or deny if a ransom
- 15:16demand was ever made by the hackers. Which is
- 15:19pretty standard. Right. Furthermore, no criminal
- 15:21group has publicly stepped forward on the dark
- 15:23web to claim the attack. And as of the initial
- 15:26reporting, none of the stolen data has appeared
- 15:28on dark web leak sites. So it's just this tense
- 15:31standoff. A very tense standoff. And in the middle
- 15:34of this standoff, Partnered Health goes to the
- 15:38New South Wales Supreme Court and obtains an
- 15:40interim injunction. Right. Essentially, they
- 15:43got a civil court order that legally prohibits
- 15:45anyone from using, publishing or disseminating
- 15:48the stolen data. Yes. And now I have to challenge
- 15:51this. OK. A court order against a cyber criminal.
- 15:55I know what it sounds. That sounds like putting
- 15:57up a no trespassing sign to stop a category five
- 15:59hurricane. It really does. I mean, are we really
- 16:02supposed to believe that an offshore hacker sitting
- 16:05in a basement halfway across the world who has
- 16:07already broken multiple federal laws to steal
- 16:10this data is going to look at an Australian civil
- 16:12court document and say, oh, well, the New South
- 16:15Wales Supreme Court says I shouldn't publish
- 16:17this. I better hit delete. No, it sounds completely
- 16:19absurd on its face. Yeah. Your skepticism is
- 16:22entirely justified here because. A local court
- 16:25injunction is absolutely not going to deter the
- 16:28actual thief. Right. If they are offshore and
- 16:31operating outside the bounds of international
- 16:32law, a Supreme Court order is meaningless to
- 16:36them. Then why spend the massive amount of money
- 16:38on corporate lawyers to file for it? Because
- 16:41the injunction isn't actually aimed at the hacker.
- 16:44Oh. It is a strategic mechanism aimed at the
- 16:47secondary market. We have seen this tactic used
- 16:50recently in Australia during the HWL, Ebsworth,
- 16:53and Medibank breaches. Okay. You shouldn't think
- 16:56of the injunction as a lock on the stolen goods.
- 16:59You should think of it as a legal fence around
- 17:01the blast radius. A legal fence around the blast
- 17:03radius. Okay, break down the mechanics of how
- 17:05that actually works. Well, when health data is
- 17:07leaked, it doesn't just stay with the original
- 17:09hacker. A whole ecosystem of secondary actors
- 17:12springs into action. Who else gets involved?
- 17:15Data brokers download it to slice it up and sell
- 17:18it. Local scammers access it to build highly
- 17:20targeted phishing attacks. Even local journalists
- 17:23might download it to report on the specific contents
- 17:25of the leak. Right, because it's newsworthy.
- 17:27Exactly. Yeah. But by getting a Supreme Court
- 17:30injunction, partnered health gains immediate,
- 17:33severe legal leverage against anyone within the
- 17:37reach of Australian law. Ah, I see. So if an
- 17:39Australian internet service provider, a local
- 17:42tech hosting company, or even a social media
- 17:45platform sees this data being shared on their
- 17:47network, partnered health doesn't just have to
- 17:50politely ask them to take it down based on general
- 17:52privacy guidelines? Exactly the opposite of a
- 17:55polite request. They could say, if you host or
- 17:58share this data, you are in direct contempt of
- 18:01a Supreme Court injunction. Which carries immediate,
- 18:03severe legal and financial penalties. Huge penalties.
- 18:08It forces local tech infrastructure to aggressively
- 18:11scrub the data, limiting its spread locally.
- 18:13It effectively shuts down the secondary market
- 18:16within the country. Wow. It also seems like a
- 18:18very strategic move for corporate optics. Oh,
- 18:21absolutely. It is a powerful signal to regulators
- 18:24like the OAIC. and to future courts, proving
- 18:27that the company did not just throw their hands
- 18:29up in defeat. They fought back. They took aggressive,
- 18:32proactive, and very expensive steps to contain
- 18:35the harm to their patients. It is legally brilliant,
- 18:37even if it does nothing to stop the initial offshore
- 18:40hacker. So what does this all mean for you, the
- 18:43person listening right now? Yeah, that's the
- 18:45big question. We have covered the massive corporate
- 18:48structures, the forensic timelines, the lateral
- 18:51movement in cloud networks and this fascinating
- 18:53legal fencing. But let's bring it back down to
- 18:56the ground. Translate this into direct, actionable
- 18:59advice for the learner. If you have been to one
- 19:02of these clinics or honestly, if you are ever
- 19:05caught up in any health data breach. What do
- 19:08you actually do to protect yourself? The most
- 19:10immediate practical threat you face is targeted
- 19:13manipulation. Scams? Yes. Criminals use the specific
- 19:18details in these breaches to build customized
- 19:20scripts. They will call you. or text you, and
- 19:24they won't just use a generic greeting. They
- 19:25won't just say, dear sir or madam. Right. They'll
- 19:28say, hi, I am calling from the partnered health
- 19:30clinic on Main Street. Dr. Smith asked me to
- 19:33call you regarding your recent blood test on
- 19:35June 12th. We just need to verify a small billing
- 19:38detail. Wow. Because they have that clinical
- 19:41layer of data, they know your doctor's name,
- 19:43they know the exact date of your test. It bypasses
- 19:45all your normal spam filters because it sounds
- 19:47incredibly convincing. It preys on your trust
- 19:50in your medical provider. Exactly. So the takeaway
- 19:53is that just because a caller knows intimate
- 19:55details about your health history does not mean
- 19:58they're actually calling from your clinic. You
- 20:00have to maintain a state of high alert. Never
- 20:03click on links and text messages or emails claiming
- 20:06to be from your clinic regarding a breach, a
- 20:08test result, or an overdue invoice. Never. If
- 20:12you are even slightly concerned, hang up the
- 20:15phone, look up the clinic's phone number independently
- 20:17on their official website, and call them directly
- 20:19to verify. And regarding the identity theft side
- 20:22of things, since they have permanent identifiers
- 20:25like dates of birth and Medicare numbers. If
- 20:28your data is caught up in a breach of this magnitude,
- 20:30you should strongly consider putting a temporary
- 20:32ban on your credit report. It's a freeze, right?
- 20:35Yeah, it's a free service provided by credit
- 20:37reporting agencies. It stops anyone from opening
- 20:39new credit cards or taking out. loans in your
- 20:41name. Okay, good to know. It is a highly effective
- 20:44way to freeze the financial utility of your stolen
- 20:46identity while the dust settles. It is deeply
- 20:49frustrating that consumers have to play this
- 20:51level of defense, but it is the reality of the
- 20:54digital age. Unfortunately, yes. And for context,
- 20:57a lot of the deep analysis of the systemic IT
- 20:59issues we discussed today, the security gaps,
- 21:02the lateral movement, the notification readiness
- 21:05comes from the experts who study these corporate
- 21:07vulnerabilities. The folks at Kinsoft. Right.
- 21:10If this deep dive has left you as a business
- 21:12owner or practice manager wondering about your
- 21:15own IT architecture, you can consult the authors
- 21:17of the Their core message to businesses is simple.
- 21:26Stay patched. And stay skeptical. Stay patched
- 21:30and stay skeptical. That is excellent advice.
- 21:32The entire landscape is about proactive structural
- 21:34defense rather than relying on reactive panic
- 21:37when the logs show an intrusion. It has to be.
- 21:39Well, we have covered a massive amount of ground
- 21:41today from the comforting illusion of the local
- 21:43clinic to the complexities of Supreme Court injunctions
- 21:47against global hackers. We certainly have. And
- 21:50as we wrap up. Examining a case study like this
- 21:53raises an important question, one that goes a
- 21:55bit beyond just this specific partnered health
- 21:58breach. Oh. It's something for you to mull over
- 22:00as you go about your week. All right. Give us
- 22:02something to think about. We talked earlier about
- 22:04how medical data, your DNA, your specific medical
- 22:09history, your date of birth is permanent. It
- 22:13does not change like a leaked password. Right.
- 22:15But if our unchangeable biological realities
- 22:18are now continually being breached from centralized
- 22:22corporate warehouses. Which they are. If they're
- 22:25becoming permanent digital commodities floating
- 22:27out there in the ether, traded by data brokers
- 22:30on secondary markets. Yeah. Will society eventually
- 22:32have to completely abandon the idea of using
- 22:35secret personal data to verify who we are? Oh,
- 22:39wow. I mean, if your mother's maiden name, your
- 22:41date of birth, and your medical history are essentially
- 22:44public knowledge to anyone who knows where to
- 22:46look, how do we fundamentally prove we are who
- 22:49we say we are tomorrow? Wow. That is a terrifyingly
- 22:52good point. The master keys to our identity simply
- 22:55aren't secret anymore. We are eventually going
- 22:58to need an entirely new system for trust. Just
- 23:01something to keep in mind the next time a bank
- 23:03or a clinic asks you to verify your date of birth
- 23:07over the phone. To prove your identity. Indeed.
- 23:10Well, on that slightly existential note, we are
- 23:12going to leave it there for today. Thank you
- 23:14for joining us on this deep dive. Stay vigilant,
- 23:17stay curious, and we will catch you next time.
- 23:20Until next time, take care.