Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Women Around the World: Ruby Corado
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane
- 0:08Speaker 1: never told your production by Heart Radio. Welcome, Welcome, welcome,
- 0:20Speaker 1: and for today's women around the world, we've got a
- 0:23Speaker 1: good one. However, I have a question first Anny, Okay,
- 0:28Speaker 1: I was just wondering, as it is Pride month this month,
- 0:31Speaker 1: and we've talked about your sexual orientation and just kind
- 0:34Speaker 1: of overall your journey in this. Can you kind of
- 0:38Speaker 1: talk about at the beginning of your journey when you
- 0:41Speaker 1: started questioning just kind of your sexual identity and why
- 0:47Speaker 1: that was something that you explored. Yes, and that is
- 0:52Speaker 1: a very good question because I think for a lot
- 0:56Speaker 1: of people, but especially in my case, things sort of
- 1:01Speaker 1: happen organically and you don't understand them at the time,
- 1:06Speaker 1: and if you don't have the terminology or even um
- 1:11Speaker 1: you don't see you representation of a certain thing, then
- 1:14Speaker 1: you might not only try to fit into what you
- 1:18Speaker 1: think you should be or how you think you should
- 1:20Speaker 1: be just because that's all you know, but you you
- 1:24Speaker 1: might not even realize that you're going through these things
- 1:26Speaker 1: until you look back later. So that was very much
- 1:28Speaker 1: my experience where I didn't realize, as we've spoken about before,
- 1:33Speaker 1: there were so many ways to identify. But that being said,
- 1:39Speaker 1: when in seventh grade, I was on a one of
- 1:45Speaker 1: those notorious field shows where you go away for like
- 1:48Speaker 1: the weekend, you know, and it's it's like rife with
- 1:52Speaker 1: drama and you know who kissed who and who's doing
- 1:55Speaker 1: what with whom, and it's it's the time when you're
- 1:58Speaker 1: an adolescent and those kind of questions are happening anyway,
- 2:01Speaker 1: where you're starting to feel like this interest in people
- 2:04Speaker 1: I had previously. I know, I've shared the story many times.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Realized that I liked both male and female fictional characters,
- 2:13Speaker 1: like I would feel flutters and more in my stomach
- 2:17Speaker 1: that I couldn't explain. But I told my friend I
- 2:19Speaker 1: thought it was orgasms and she was like, it's definitely
- 2:21Speaker 1: not well, and I was like, well, it's something. And
- 2:23Speaker 1: I feel the same for both Scully and Molder. So
- 2:29Speaker 1: I think I pretty early on, because bisexual was the
- 2:32Speaker 1: term I was familiar with, thought okay, I'm interested in both.
- 2:36Speaker 1: And then on that trip to Jakol Island in seventh grade,
- 2:39Speaker 1: I had people where I was like, oh, I would
- 2:41Speaker 1: make out with her. I know who, I would make
- 2:43Speaker 1: out with him, And at the time, it was kind
- 2:45Speaker 1: of like, am I just excited by all these new
- 2:49Speaker 1: like these feelings and emotions, Maybe I'm not understanding them.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Later in high school it became much more. I felt
- 2:56Speaker 1: like I had to fit in by open wanting to
- 3:00Speaker 1: date with a dude and want to have sex with
- 3:03Speaker 1: that dude. So it was I wouldn't say I was
- 3:06Speaker 1: living a lie, but I would let people believe, like
- 3:09Speaker 1: I would make very sexual jokes and I would let
- 3:11Speaker 1: people believe what they would from that. But I think
- 3:14Speaker 1: that was like, looking back, that does feel like that
- 3:17Speaker 1: was when I was first I was a sexual or
- 3:21Speaker 1: dimisexual or whatever it was. But I was trying so hard.
- 3:24Speaker 1: I didn't realize that I didn't know those were things,
- 3:26Speaker 1: but I was trying to be like fit into this
- 3:29Speaker 1: straight existence and I really wanted that, like I That's
- 3:32Speaker 1: one thing I remember so clearly is I wanted it
- 3:34Speaker 1: because my friends sounded so happy about it, and it
- 3:37Speaker 1: just seemed like to fit in, you had to want that.
- 3:41Speaker 1: But this is a very long winded story to say.
- 3:43Speaker 1: I think pretty early on I just didn't have an
- 3:46Speaker 1: understanding or the tools or words um until looking back,
- 3:51Speaker 1: where I do kind of feel sad that I didn't
- 3:53Speaker 1: because I was trying. I did things I wish I
- 3:55Speaker 1: hadn't done because I thought I would fit in or
- 3:58Speaker 1: that I had to right. That may be sad, and
- 4:01Speaker 1: just so the y'all y'all know I did give any
- 4:05Speaker 1: heads up and as commission, So I don't want to
- 4:10Speaker 1: be like, how do you? Because I think it's really
- 4:14Speaker 1: important too. And we've talked about this many times about
- 4:16Speaker 1: what it looks like when you have that aha moment
- 4:19Speaker 1: of that's who I am. Oh my god, I've been
- 4:21Speaker 1: missing this piece of who I was, and um, I
- 4:25Speaker 1: love that we after we released the episode about the
- 4:28Speaker 1: A B C's of being Ace, and so many people
- 4:31Speaker 1: try me in about oh my god, I didn't know,
- 4:34Speaker 1: but that's me and just having that feeling of relief
- 4:37Speaker 1: and release and kind of identifying that that part of you.
- 4:43Speaker 1: And I think it's beautiful. As I have, I come
- 4:46Speaker 1: from a little older generation of trying to understand and
- 4:50Speaker 1: and being allies and trying to see what it was
- 4:52Speaker 1: and not just seeing it as a uh titles, and
- 4:56Speaker 1: I think that's for so long that's how I kind
- 4:59Speaker 1: of saw them as and just coming to the point
- 5:01Speaker 1: of saying how beautiful it is not only to be
- 5:04Speaker 1: able to for people to identify that way, but also
- 5:07Speaker 1: the fluidity of being able to just love and truly love.
- 5:10Speaker 1: And I love that concept in general and just loving
- 5:14Speaker 1: what that is and and as it is pride. We
- 5:17Speaker 1: we also want to keep talking about all the different
- 5:20Speaker 1: people who have come to this point and have been
- 5:23Speaker 1: such inspirations for others as well in any other ured
- 5:27Speaker 1: inspiration for so many um I think many of the
- 5:30Speaker 1: listeners would agree. And because of that, we wanted to
- 5:33Speaker 1: focus on someone who has won many awards in her
- 5:39Speaker 1: activism as well. Ash pushed to advocate for the rights
- 5:42Speaker 1: and justice for the trans and the LGBTQ plus community,
- 5:45Speaker 1: and especially those of color in the U S and
- 5:47Speaker 1: around the world, and we were talking about Ruby Corrado. Yes, so.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Ruby Corrado is an activist, advocate, and survivor. She was
- 5:56Speaker 1: originally born in El Salvador, where she fled at the
- 5:58Speaker 1: age of sixteen to the United State dates and it
- 6:00Speaker 1: has not been an easy road for her. She endured
- 6:03Speaker 1: her harassment, sexual assault, gun violence, and even incurceration. She
- 6:07Speaker 1: went through hard times, including having job loss, homelessness, and
- 6:12Speaker 1: continued harassment and physical violence, but she was able to
- 6:15Speaker 1: persevere and she continued to grow and learn more about herself.
- 6:19Speaker 1: She came to understand the lack of community and help
- 6:22Speaker 1: for someone like her, that it didn't really exist, and
- 6:26Speaker 1: she wasn't able to start her transition until a bit
- 6:28Speaker 1: after she came to the United States and did so
- 6:31Speaker 1: after being able to safely access it right. And it
- 6:35Speaker 1: was actually after the death of trans woman Tyra Hunter
- 6:38Speaker 1: in nine who was refused treatment by the e m
- 6:41Speaker 1: S at that time and so therefore died, and that
- 6:45Speaker 1: pushed Courado to start volunteering and start her journey as
- 6:49Speaker 1: an advocate for the l g b d Q ples community,
- 6:52Speaker 1: and she has not slowed down at all, still active today.
- 6:57Speaker 1: She later started to work with the Coalition to Clarify
- 6:59Speaker 1: the d See Human Rights Act or later named DC
- 7:02Speaker 1: Chains Coalition, which pushed to include quote protections for gender
- 7:06Speaker 1: identity or expression to the DC Human Rights Act, which
- 7:09Speaker 1: took effect in March two thousand and six. And this
- 7:12Speaker 1: all took place after she became kind of a name
- 7:16Speaker 1: in the LGBTQ activism circle for her work and organizing
- 7:20Speaker 1: skills including organizing marches and vigils to five recognition and
- 7:24Speaker 1: justice for those who had been murdered, and it was
- 7:26Speaker 1: kind of after the death and the murder of Evangelista
- 7:30Speaker 1: that she started to really pick up and with the
- 7:33Speaker 1: experience and fierce passion and advocating for a community, Karado
- 7:36Speaker 1: has used all her past life traumas and experiences to
- 7:38Speaker 1: provide a safe space for others while experiencing sexual violence
- 7:42Speaker 1: and trafficking, homelessness, domestic violence, continued mis gendering that led
- 7:46Speaker 1: to more trauma within the incurse ration system as well
- 7:49Speaker 1: as healthcare systems, and overall lack of support. Through all
- 7:52Speaker 1: of that, Karada created the Casa Ruby and and from
- 7:56Speaker 1: their site quote, her drive and dream was to bring
- 7:58Speaker 1: resources to historic, clear, underserved, and under resource communities in
- 8:02Speaker 1: order to create more success stories for transgender and queer
- 8:05Speaker 1: folks Yea and she did this with a group of
- 8:07Speaker 1: friends and they have a long list of services offered,
- 8:11Speaker 1: everything from shelter to health services, to immigration services, to
- 8:14Speaker 1: domestic violence services as well as care for youths. And
- 8:18Speaker 1: their mission statement is pretty simple, to create success life
- 8:21Speaker 1: stories among transgender, gender, queer, gender, nonconforming, gay, lesbian, and
- 8:26Speaker 1: bisexual individuals and um They've gone global, starting with a
- 8:30Speaker 1: location in El Savador, as she states she is quote
- 8:34Speaker 1: a Salvadorian who migrated, but a part of her stayed there,
- 8:37Speaker 1: and she felt she wanted to fight for that community
- 8:40Speaker 1: and continue to bring services. Of course, she also talked
- 8:43Speaker 1: about her fear that they might be outed and they
- 8:45Speaker 1: would have to flee as well, but more than anything,
- 8:48Speaker 1: she just wanted there to be a safe space for
- 8:50Speaker 1: that community and for her community there. But of course,
- 8:54Speaker 1: there are still many battles ahead, and in fact Groado
- 8:57Speaker 1: has been dealing with a whole new level of vitriol
- 8:59Speaker 1: and rets this past year. She stated in twenty that
- 9:03Speaker 1: she has been receiving many threats against her and her organization.
- 9:07Speaker 1: She said she thinks it's in part due to the
- 9:08Speaker 1: pandemic and how it has pushed everyone to become more
- 9:11Speaker 1: on edge, and that it's causing people to lash out right.
- 9:15Speaker 1: She talked about the fact that not only has she
- 9:17Speaker 1: gotten personal threats, but threats against her organization, so they've
- 9:21Speaker 1: been on high alert um and she's no stranger to
- 9:24Speaker 1: the threats, including being sent many threats after events such
- 9:28Speaker 1: as the Pulse nightclub shooting. She said that she started
- 9:30Speaker 1: getting phone calls after that and there was an uptick
- 9:33Speaker 1: after the election when she didn't hold back in the
- 9:37Speaker 1: fact that you've had fears of the things to come
- 9:40Speaker 1: with that administration and trying to actually advocate for her
- 9:43Speaker 1: community at that point in time, as there was a
- 9:46Speaker 1: lot of anti trans and currently and a lot of
- 9:48Speaker 1: anti trans laws trying to be pushed forward. So she's
- 9:51Speaker 1: definitely being seen and she's definitely been targeted, and yeah,
- 9:55Speaker 1: she has continued and will continue to work for the
- 9:59Speaker 1: better and for the activism of her community. As in fact,
- 10:02Speaker 1: she's actually stepping down because she was the CEO and
- 10:05Speaker 1: head of an executive leader of CASA Ruby, but she's
- 10:09Speaker 1: stepping down to allow for others, as she says, to
- 10:13Speaker 1: come and take her place. And she actually talked about
- 10:15Speaker 1: the fact that she feels that having a black trans
- 10:18Speaker 1: woman come and lead after her, saying that this is
- 10:21Speaker 1: a whole conversation about who's in leadership and why it's
- 10:24Speaker 1: important for everyone to be seen. And she has been
- 10:28Speaker 1: a fierce advocate for the brown and black communities within
- 10:32Speaker 1: the trans communities as well and about how they need
- 10:35Speaker 1: to be seen and be represented, and um, I love that.
- 10:38Speaker 1: As in fact, she's also talking about possibly getting into
- 10:42Speaker 1: politics with a consideration to run for the DC City
- 10:45Speaker 1: Council in three which will open up at that point
- 10:49Speaker 1: in time, which would make her, I believe, the first
- 10:51Speaker 1: openly transgender council person in the city's second ever transgender
- 10:55Speaker 1: elected official, behind Monica Nameth who was appointed as a
- 11:00Speaker 1: advisory Neighborhood commission in so past. Your fingers would definitely
- 11:05Speaker 1: advocate for her. But yeah, she's not slowing down like
- 11:09Speaker 1: I said. She's going global, launching different businesses as well
- 11:13Speaker 1: on top of as these nonprofits that she just recently
- 11:16Speaker 1: launched Kossa Ruby's new pharmacy in DC um hoping to
- 11:20Speaker 1: give more healthcare access as well for the transgender community.
- 11:27Speaker 1: So big things and not surprisingly, she's been awarded many,
- 11:33Speaker 1: many awards, yes, including the Capital Pride Engendered Spirit Awards
- 11:38Speaker 1: in eleven, Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance g l l
- 11:42Speaker 1: A Distinguished Service Award in twelve, the Activists of the
- 11:45Speaker 1: Year by the African American Prison Awards in twelve, the
- 11:48Speaker 1: DC Center Community Center Service Award, and Gay and Lesbians
- 11:53Speaker 1: Opposing Violence Community Service Award also in two thirteen, right
- 11:56Speaker 1: and just recently this year, she was awarded the twenty
- 12:00Speaker 1: twenty one Community Build Award by the National Center for
- 12:02Speaker 1: Transgender Equality, which is dedicated to the grassroots activists and
- 12:06Speaker 1: organizers who have put forward at collaboration and fuel the
- 12:10Speaker 1: transgender liberation movement. So congratulations to her, but obviously she
- 12:15Speaker 1: has been a fierce voice and someone that we should
- 12:17Speaker 1: definitely look up to and look out for. Totally agreed
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