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Hutton & Withrow: NFL Week 2 Preview, Titans-Eagles & John McClain on Hall of Fame Shakeup | Hour 2 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: Chad, we have a great matchup for Thursday night to
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  Speaker 1: get things rolling. I think one of the toughest turns
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  Speaker 1: of the NFL season would be opening weekend and then
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  Speaker 1: playing on Thursday night. I don't know why I feel
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  Speaker 1: that way, but just for a week-two Thursday night matchup,
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  Speaker 1: I think that would be the toughest. You're still healthy
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  Speaker 1: overall as a team. But I think the focus would
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  Speaker 1: be trying to get into a rhythm and a grind.
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  Speaker 1: It is tough to do that in the month of
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  Speaker 1: September if you're playing on Thursday night. The teams that
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  Speaker 1: will do that, though, Lions and Bills for Thursday night football.
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  Speaker 1: It's Buffalo by four and a half here. Detroit, they
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  Speaker 1: want to drag this into the trenches. The interior run game,
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  Speaker 1: it matches up well against the Buffalo defensive front. This
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  Speaker 1: is a group that gave up four and a half
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  Speaker 1: yards on early downs last year on the run. But
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  Speaker 1: on the flip side, The Lions, they want to blitz
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  Speaker 1: as well, and that means, do you blitz Josh Allen?
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  Speaker 1: Do you let him pick you apart? That extra pressure,
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  Speaker 1: he can get the ball out clean, and then the
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  Speaker 1: aggressiveness could turn around and actually hinder the Lions' defense.
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  Speaker 1: Great matchup here. Two solid coaches. New coach versus old hat,
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  Speaker 1: so to speak, with what Detroit's working with. Aggressive styles,
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  Speaker 1: and well, is the difference Josh Allen, or do we
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  Speaker 1: see Goff make his way into the national discussion.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited about this one. Thursday night football, I was
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  Speaker 2: excited last week for football to get started, Hutton, but
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  Speaker 2: it rarely delivers to this level of excitement around a game.
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  Speaker 2: New stadium opening, these two teams, let's go. I'm ready
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  Speaker 2: for this game tonight.
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  Speaker 1: It's my Super Bowl matchup, actually, the Lions and the Bills.
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  Speaker 1: Bengals and Texans coming up on Sunday. Texans by two
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  Speaker 1: and a half. Houston's defensive front. This is a defensive
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  Speaker 1: front that is built to ruin Joe Burrow's afternoon. They
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  Speaker 1: can generate pressure and they do it without having to
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  Speaker 1: blitz whatsoever. So they can have an extra guy drop
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  Speaker 1: into coverage instead of having to get after the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: with the extra man that then allows the smart quarterback
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  Speaker 1: to find the opening within the defense. And then when
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  Speaker 1: Houston has the ball, can the run game come through,
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  Speaker 1: especially on late downs? against a Cincinnati defense that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have Hendrickson anymore to take advantage of the pass rush.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a group that gets gashed in those situations
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  Speaker 1: a year ago where the offense stays on the field
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  Speaker 1: if you're taking on Cincinnati. I'm taking the Texans minus
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  Speaker 1: the points here with this matchup, despite what Cincinnati has
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  Speaker 1: to work with on offense.
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  Speaker 2: I am very nervous if I'm a Cincinnati fan about
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  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow having back tightness after one game. given all
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  Speaker 2: the injuries and everything else, that is something to monitor.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, I fear, if this season goes down in
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  Speaker 2: injury again, you start to fear it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: like Andrew Luck. A great but short career for a
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  Speaker 2: guy that has all this promise. And I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be like Andrew Luck and that he's
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  Speaker 2: going to start a book club. I'm going to say
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  Speaker 2: he's going to retire early from the NFL. So that's
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  Speaker 2: one to monitor, especially against this defense with Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 2: already reports that he's having back tightness.
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  Speaker 1: Chad, could the New York teams actually start out 2-0
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  Speaker 1: this year? Could this actually happen? Green Bay is on
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  Speaker 1: the road taking on the Jets. Green Bay favored by 3.5,
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  Speaker 1: over under at 44.5 there at MetLife Stadium. Visiting offenses
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  Speaker 1: traditionally don't play well in this stadium against the Jets' defense,
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  Speaker 1: and Green Bay... Well, if they have to settle for
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  Speaker 1: field goals after making their way down the field, that
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  Speaker 1: keeps the New York Jets in this game. Geno Smith,
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  Speaker 1: he will play well enough to put them in ballgames
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  Speaker 1: six or seven times this year. Is this one of
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  Speaker 1: them early in the season? I don't even counting last
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  Speaker 1: week with what they had to do. They embarrassed the
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. They're confident. They're coming off of an offseason
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  Speaker 1: where they had a game plan against an opponent that
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  Speaker 1: certainly didn't come with one. And the Packers are coming
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  Speaker 1: off the spot where they had this game in hand
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  Speaker 1: and their coach decides to go for it on a
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  Speaker 1: late game situation yet again before it messes up. Too aggressive.
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  Speaker 1: They're stuffed. Is there a confidence issue going on in
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay? Maybe, maybe not. But, you know, the Jets,
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  Speaker 1: they rely on confidence. Right now they have it. For
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  Speaker 1: how long? Maybe not for long. But The theory was
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  Speaker 1: the league gave the New York teams, the Tennessee Titans,
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  Speaker 1: early in their season so that both New York teams
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  Speaker 1: could get off to a fast start. This would be
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  Speaker 1: the story of the first two weeks of the Jets
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  Speaker 1: start 2-0.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see it with the next New York team, Hutton,
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  Speaker 2: that we're going to talk about. Okay. But I can
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  Speaker 2: see it with the Packers-Jets. But also, not going to
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  Speaker 2: be picking that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I think the Packers, I think both these teams are
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  Speaker 2: 1-1 after this ballgame on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Ravens and Saints. Baltimore, eight and a half is what
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  Speaker 1: I wrote down. 46 and a half on the over-under.
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  Speaker 1: Heavy personnel in their run game. Derrick Henry looked great.
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  Speaker 1: Looks healthy. Looks fast. Still looks fast running at the
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  Speaker 1: age of 31. Then there's New Orleans with somehow with
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  Speaker 1: Shuck playing like throwing for 400 yards and looking the
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  Speaker 1: part of a quarterback that Cam Ward can't touch. First
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  Speaker 1: quarter point differential. for New Orleans last year was abysmal.
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  Speaker 1: And if Baltimore is able to get off to a
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  Speaker 1: fast start, if they score, they get up 10 early.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's all she wrote for Baltimore, who's favored
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  Speaker 1: by eight and a half. I think it all depends
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  Speaker 1: on the first quarter start for the Ravens against the
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  Speaker 1: New Orleans defense. They didn't do much in the offseason
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  Speaker 1: to improve their defensive personnel, but man, did they, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they look like a team that's bought in Despite plenty
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  Speaker 1: of players that you kind of roll an eye to.
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  Speaker 1: They're playing with who? They have what? Offensively? Do they
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  Speaker 1: make it happen?
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  Speaker 2: They do. The secret sauce there is working.
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia. Philadelphia goes on the road. The spread only seven.
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  Speaker 1: So this is why I'm like, Chad, what does Vegas
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  Speaker 1: know that we don't know? Because the Saints are on
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  Speaker 1: the road in Baltimore, and it's eight and a half.
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  Speaker 1: And the Eagles... travel to Tennessee against this Titans team,
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  Speaker 1: and the spread is seven, over under at 39.5. You've
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  Speaker 1: got red zone offense that is elite for Philadelphia, a
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  Speaker 1: Titans defense that you've got short yardage right now. They're
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  Speaker 1: getting pushed off the line of scrimmage, and home atmosphere
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  Speaker 1: means nothing. There will be more Eagles fans here than
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  Speaker 1: Titans fans, and when the Titans have the football, Do
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  Speaker 1: they have early-down success? The answer has been no. And
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  Speaker 1: when they do, they have penalties. I'm taking Philadelphia. I'm
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  Speaker 1: laying the points. I don't know why you would take
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  Speaker 1: the points and take the Titans in this game.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to this in our Hard Rock Locks coming
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  Speaker 2: up later, but I, too, Hutton, am shocked by the number, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: from what I've seen from these two teams.
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  Speaker 1: Vikings taking on the Bears, another matchup for the NFC North,
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  Speaker 1: pivotal with what we saw in week one as well. Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: they can take the top off the defense. They can
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  Speaker 1: stress Minnesota's safeties in this game. Do the Vikings have
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  Speaker 1: a counterpunch? And they do, I think, with Brian Flores
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  Speaker 1: and their defense because they are going to try to
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  Speaker 1: confuse Caleb Williams. And you've got a quarterback situation there
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  Speaker 1: where Carson Wentz gets the win, gets the cheers. post-game
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  Speaker 1: last week for Minnesota. Chicago looks like they're the all-offense
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  Speaker 1: team for the all-decade team coming up for the NFL
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  Speaker 1: with what they did in week one against Carolina. They're
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  Speaker 1: favored by five and a half. My big, bold prediction
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  Speaker 1: was the Bears aren't going to make the playoffs, but
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  Speaker 1: I would bet the Bears this week.
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  Speaker 2: I was stunned by that score between the Bears and
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  Speaker 2: the Panthers. Stunned. And I'm thinking, Ben Johnson, man, That
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  Speaker 2: guy's a football coach. He is an offensive football coach,
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  Speaker 2: and he gets it done. But what a final score
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  Speaker 2: in that one. I'm with you. I'd like the Bears
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  Speaker 2: to get to 2-0 at home this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Give me Tampa at home against the Cleveland Browns because
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  Speaker 1: they're going to bring the house here. Tampa blitzes on 40%
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  Speaker 1: of dropbacks, and they're going to force Cleveland into some
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  Speaker 1: third longs here, and they're going to make some mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: Tampa's defense opportunistic. The Browns, they can try to be aggressive,
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  Speaker 1: but they get picked apart in the passing game here.
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  Speaker 1: It's eight and a half bucks at home. Chad, we've
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  Speaker 1: been to that stadium. They're going to be firing off
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  Speaker 1: on the cannons on the ship very often here at home.
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  Speaker 1: 41 and a half over under.
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  Speaker 2: I remember being in that stadium, that SEC kickoff, and
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  Speaker 2: having a guy in a pirate costume act like a
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  Speaker 2: security guard, kicking out media members for daring to step
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  Speaker 2: foot on the pirate ship. And that's the way the
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  Speaker 2: Bucs are going to treat the Browns. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: kick them out of their stadium for daring to step
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  Speaker 2: foot on that pirate ship, much like that grown-ass man
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  Speaker 2: who was dressed as a pirate as Peter Pan was
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  Speaker 2: that day in Tampa.
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  Speaker 1: Steelers on the road against the New England Patriots. Patriots
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  Speaker 1: favored here over under 41.5. Steelers defense, can they create
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  Speaker 1: chaos for Drake May and company? This is a New
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  Speaker 1: England offense that was top five in early down rushing
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  Speaker 1: success a year ago. It's a formula for Pittsburgh. If
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  Speaker 1: they can stop the run, they're going to win this
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  Speaker 1: game because Drake May will be on the run in
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  Speaker 1: passing downs. Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers, what's the second game look
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  Speaker 1: like for a Pittsburgh team with plenty of weapons on
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  Speaker 1: the outside for him against a New England defense that
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  Speaker 1: should be better than what we saw in the first
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  Speaker 1: matchup go around late in that game for New England
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  Speaker 1: and let's face it, a team that doesn't need to
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  Speaker 1: start 0-2 for Mike Vrabel and distractions galore off the field?
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  Speaker 2: 0-2 start, given the offseason, given, I mean, it sounds
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  Speaker 2: crazy to make it to the Super Bowl, so people
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  Speaker 2: aren't upset about that, but given the performance in the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl and then the Russini mess this year, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: not a great look, but a very tough start to
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  Speaker 2: the season also for him going to Seattle. They should
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  Speaker 2: have had that game won. Drake May, his quarterback, blew
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  Speaker 2: that one. But, yeah, big one for New England at
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  Speaker 2: home against Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I took the Steelers plus the points here.
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  Speaker 1: It's five and a half last I looked. Panthers and Falcons.
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  Speaker 1: You have the Carolina Panthers who, I mean, in any
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  Speaker 1: other week across the NFL, they score what they scored
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  Speaker 1: last week against Chicago. They win. They also put up
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  Speaker 1: a ton of points. But they end up losing because
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  Speaker 1: it felt like Chicago dropped 100 on them. Meanwhile, Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: just seems to continue to look like they're going through
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  Speaker 1: the motions. It's Panthers on the road in Atlanta, Carolina
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  Speaker 1: favored on the road here, two and a half. Atlanta's
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  Speaker 1: going to live and die on the run. They are
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  Speaker 1: efficient whenever they're doing it with 11 personnel because they
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  Speaker 1: can spread out and do things with their running back
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  Speaker 1: core that's an extension of their run game. Carolina has
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  Speaker 1: a tough time whenever they're trying to get after a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback when they can't blitz. Can they stay out of
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  Speaker 1: those situations? Can they stop the run on early downs?
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  Speaker 1: This is one of those where I think the regression
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  Speaker 1: to the mean, Chad, Carolina, I view them as it
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  Speaker 1: feels like they came off of a week one win,
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  Speaker 1: putting up like 30 plus in a game that they lost.
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  Speaker 1: But this is where I think they go on the road.
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  Speaker 1: And I think they show just how much they've improved.
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  Speaker 1: And overall, I know Atlanta may have, you could argue,
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  Speaker 1: one of the best, if not the best player, B.
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  Speaker 1: John Robinson. I'm taking Carolina here on the road favored
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  Speaker 1: against Atlanta. That's very rare to see the NFC South
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  Speaker 1: with a road team favored with every team almost being
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  Speaker 1: exactly the same. But I like the Panthers and the
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  Speaker 1: momentum that they're running with. They're trying to go back-to-back
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  Speaker 1: in the division as winners.
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  Speaker 2: Is there any team in this division not just going
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  Speaker 2: through the motions right now, I feel like, except maybe Tampa?
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  Speaker 2: I look at that NFC South, and I'm looking at
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  Speaker 2: a lot of these teams, and I'm thinking, what is
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  Speaker 2: this exactly? I see that with the Falcons. Now, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of that is because both their top two quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: are injured right now. But the Panthers, what are they
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  Speaker 2: doing with Bryce Young? He had a good first week
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  Speaker 2: with that offense, scoring a lot of points. But it's
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  Speaker 2: tough to figure that division out as to what they
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  Speaker 2: are and what they're going to be.
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  Speaker 1: Who are the loss– Los Angeles Chargers. Are they the
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  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh version early in the season that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to see play tough, play in the trenches, run the football,
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  Speaker 1: line up 12 personnel and just mow you off the line?
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  Speaker 1: Or are they the group that we saw get smacked
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  Speaker 1: around by Arizona? That's the question we find out here
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  Speaker 1: as the Raiders come in 1-0 and they're taking on
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers. and Jim Harbaugh's team that needs a rebound,
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  Speaker 1: that needs to show up, that needs to put up
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  Speaker 1: some points here behind their star quarterback, behind an offense
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  Speaker 1: that should be a lot better than what we saw
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  Speaker 1: from week one. This is a game that the Chargers win,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe not handily, but they're not stressed late in
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter against a Vegas team that should not
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  Speaker 1: be anywhere close to the final score and winning this
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  Speaker 1: game outright. The Chargers, I'm taking Harbaugh early. I think
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  Speaker 1: last week's a wake-up call for them. I think they
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  Speaker 1: come out firing on all cylinders. I like the Chargers
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  Speaker 1: at home minus seven.
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  Speaker 2: And when does Fernando Mendoza start? That, to me, is
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  Speaker 2: the clock to concern yourself with with the Raiders. How
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  Speaker 2: long does Kirk Cousins hold him off? Is this a
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  Speaker 2: full-season thing? I'll be watching that to see when he
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  Speaker 2: finally becomes a starter in Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville and Denver, what a matchup here. with the Broncos
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  Speaker 1: favored by a field goal at home, 44.5, the over-under.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, you were talking about seeds. He should have
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  Speaker 1: been the one wearing that T-shirt postgame. He was dialing
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  Speaker 1: it up in Week 1 with some of the throws
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  Speaker 1: in the red zone between two defenders, putting it right
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  Speaker 1: on the money. Trevor Lawrence looked like Clemson's version of
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. with how he played in week one. If
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  Speaker 1: that continues, he's going to be the early quarterback in
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  Speaker 1: the season that everyone's talking about. Last year, it was
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Everyone's talking about Baker Mayfield through the first
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  Speaker 1: half of the season, or Daniel Jones. Trevor Lawrence is
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  Speaker 1: going to become that discussion if they go on the
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  Speaker 1: road here and win against the Broncos, who did not
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  Speaker 1: put up a four-quarter performance, a full performance against Kansas City.
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  Speaker 1: This is one that Denver needs. I think it's one
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  Speaker 1: that Jacksonville wins. I think this is one of the
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  Speaker 1: surprises of week two.
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  Speaker 2: One of the bigger games of the weekend, no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Commanders and Cowboys, Dallas favored by three and a half. Surprisingly,
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  Speaker 1: I know that Dallas, they're coming off of that loss
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  Speaker 1: to the Giants. They play well on the road, generally speaking, recently.
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  Speaker 1: They play awful at home. And the Commanders, well... They
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  Speaker 1: need to get going. I think this is, though, Dallas
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  Speaker 1: flipping the script. I think Dallas comes out firing on
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  Speaker 1: all cylinders. We look closer to the version of the
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  Speaker 1: regular season Cowboys than what we've seen last week against
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  Speaker 1: the Giants. Dolphins and 49ers, Seahawks and Cardinals, plus Colts
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  Speaker 1: and Chiefs. Chad, Colts and Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 1: gold standard in situational events like that. Sometimes, the elite quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: they're making big-time plays. But I would also say the
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: elite quarterbacks know how to keep you out of the
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  Speaker 1: detrimental play at the line of scrimmage. This happens time
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  Speaker 1: and time again with Mahomes. The Colts were the talk
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  Speaker 1: of the first half of the season last year. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's the Chiefs this year with the way that
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  Speaker 1: they rebound. Kansas City... taking on Indianapolis Sunday night football.
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  Speaker 1: And again, I will say, whenever the Kansas City Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: are on national TV, it always seems like they're playing
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  Speaker 1: at Arrowhead. That is again the case this week as
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  Speaker 1: they host Indianapolis.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: That's one of the Colts this year too, and that's
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: where we're going to start to find out that game
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: against the Chiefs.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Then there's Giants and Rams. The Rams, losers
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: in week one to the 49ers. Giants looking to go 2-0.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Rams favored by seven and a half. And
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  Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, there's a different look to this team. There's
• 17:41
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• 17:48
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• 17:51
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• 17:54
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• 17:57
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• 18:02
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• 18:05
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• 18:06
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• 18:08
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  Speaker 2: if that's the case, especially after the way they looked
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• 19:41
  Speaker 1: John McClain joins us here on Hunt to Withrow. He's
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: a Pro Football Hall of Famer for his coverage of
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: 50 years across the National Football League. John, good to
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: see you.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Good to be seen, guys. Thank you very much, as always.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Are you a believer that week one is a liar
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: in general?
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's a liar. I've seen too many things happen,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: like last year in New England. Got beat at home
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: by the Raiders, and then came back and went to
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. So all first week means is? He
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: can't go 17 and up.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Is this generally because even bad teams, bad coaches have
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a full offseason to prepare for that first week, and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: even bad coaches can come up with a good game plan?
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Jonathan, sometimes it does. A lot of times it has
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: to do with what you've done in the offseason. Guys
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: can't put on pads in the offseason. They don't even
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: hit full speed in training camp. You have joint practices.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: There's even restrictions on that. Of course, two preseason games,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: and guys don't play. Starters don't play very much, but
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: then you see some teams come out and put up
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: 59 points, 39 points. So it varies from team to team,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: and after the first month, it'll kind of even out.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like week one is a liar when
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: you lose 23-10 to the Jets at home and the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: game wasn't even that close? That's one that I'm having
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: a hard time thinking about Boy, the Titans are just
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: going to immediately turn it around and go beat the
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Eagles at home, John. How bad was that?
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: It was as bad as you can get because the
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Titans did not show any improvement under Robert Sala and
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: offensive coordinator Brian Dayball. Cam Ward didn't show any improvement,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: and that's the key. I expected their pass rush to
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: be more effective, and I think they will be better
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: on defense because Sala is a proven defensive coach, and
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: he's making those calls. But right now, based on what
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: we've seen and what we saw from last season, Titans
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: could be in the running for the first pick for
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: the second time in three years.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: So, John, you're no longer a Hall of Fame selector.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I hate that, given your longstanding relationship with the Pro
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame. We've been up there, and I
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: feel like you're the main tour guide of everything there
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: and sort of the grand poobah at times of that
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: venue and what's going on and all of that. Can
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: you just take us through– What is happening for those
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: that don't fully understand how they're changing the voting process
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: and who gets to select and everything else that would
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: lead to someone that's done it for as long as
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: you no longer being a selector?
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I've been to the Hall of
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Fame about 50 times and I'll continue to go. I
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: told everybody I appreciated everything they had allowed me to
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: do over 33 years on the Hall of Fame selection committee.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: And I wish the people who have been retained on
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: the committee, the best of luck. But three years ago,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Deion Sanders made a big deal publicly about we were
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: putting in too many people in the Hall of Fame
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: and there should be a first tier. And the Hall
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: said this had nothing to do with Deion Sanders' outburst,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: but they changed the bylaws to make it harder to
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: get in. So a guy like Bill Belichick doesn't get
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: in on the first ballot. Vince Lombardi didn't get in
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: on the first ballot. Neither did Tom Landry. But, and
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I feel Belichick always thought he'd get in the second season,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: but they changed the rules and said it had nothing
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: to do with Deion. Now they've changed the rules, taken
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: really a blowtorch to the process and said it has
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: nothing to do with Bill Belichick. 50 of the voters,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: there's now 25 voters. There'll be three non-voting alternates each year.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I don't like the changes I've said so publicly. I
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: don't like the fact that no longer will anybody make
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: a presentation. I took great pride in making eight presentations
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: for people in the Hall of Fame, six Oilers, one Texan,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Andre Johnson, and Chuck Cowley. I was a member of
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: the Seniors Committee, who was a great player for the Cowboys.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: They said some people did a better job on the presentations.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: And it wasn't fair. Well, you're penalizing the people that
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: did a good job. And a lot of those people
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: who were cut did a really good job. And I
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: don't like that they've gotten rid of the seniors category.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: There's no more seniors committee. That means Roger Craig may
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: be the last senior ever elected because the seniors just
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: go into the main scrum, so to speak. And it's
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: a recency bias. And we tried hard to get people in.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: that had been out for a long time and deserve
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: to get in. People member of all decade teams, all
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: 75-year anniversary teams. So I didn't like to cut from
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: 50 to 25, of which I was part of, but
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I'm not bitter about it. My plan really had been
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: to present J.J. Watt in two years, hit 35 years,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: and then resign, but there's no more presentations. The way
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: they're going to do it is a non-voting member, somebody
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: from the Hall of Fame probably, will read two minutes
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: of statistics and accolades, and then they'll open it to
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: the floor. Before, you made a five-minute presentation, then they
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: opened it to the floor. So I don't like that,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: and I wish everybody the very best who is making
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: those decisions now, the 25 members, and I can't wait
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: to see how it turns out.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: John, do you buy that this has nothing to do
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: with Bill Belichick and the snub And the negative reaction
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: to that?
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Well, they told me when I was informed that I
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: was not part of the committee that it had nothing
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: to do with that. But the timing of both of them,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Dion and then Belichick, wait a year. You know, Belichick
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: will be in there the second year. We all knew
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: it had been in there the second year. And so
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I thought the timing was bad. Everybody thinks it's because
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: of Belichick. but the Hall of Fame says, no, it's not.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: John, I would say the debate is much more critical
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: and harder to pass through with more selectors, not less,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: because if you read these stats and then it goes
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: up to the table, I mean, you can speak firsthand
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: on this, the debates and And arguments that would take place,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: discussions that would take place over whether or not someone
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: deserved a vote or over another player being considered, that
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: was the routine. And now it seems like they're trying
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: to streamline this to include selectors who haven't even seen
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: these guys play very often.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I thought it was also very few of us have
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: gone on Twitter and said we're not on the committee anymore.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: But I've seen two lists and they say that James
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Lofton and Tony Dungy and Bill Pulley and all of
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: whom are in the Hall of Fame. They weren't kept.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I was in favor of increasing the committee and add
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: more beyond our four members, the Hall of Famers who
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: were on our committee. And something to keep in mind,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: like if I am pushing for Andre Johnson and I
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: present Andre Johnson and I no longer have anybody I represent,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to spend time on 15 people like
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I did Andre Johnson or any of those Oilers or
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Chuck Cowleys. It's just human nature. You're not going to
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: devote that much time since you don't have a presentation.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: And I hope it works out well. The Hall of Fame,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: the people running it have been there forever, and it's
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: their right to make whatever changes they want. But some
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: of the people that have not been retained were some
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: of the very best people on that committee, beginning with
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Rick Gosselin, who had been on it for 31 years.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: And Rick was the one who championed the seniors The most.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: And he was cut. I think Paul Kowarski figured out
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: it was over 330 years worth of experience that's been chopped.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: And I know this, there's not near that experience that's
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: been kept, but hopefully it'll all work out the way
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: the Hall wants it to.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and unfortunately, PK didn't make it past this cut either,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: which is... Again, let me get this right. Given the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: fact that PK's not there, it's not like someone's going
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: to be there on behalf of the Titans moving forward.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: They're just going to have someone on behalf of the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Hall reading stats, which means you're not there, Paul's not there,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: but Adams has no more voice. The voice is gone
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: for Adams if you wanted to get a senior through
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: or a contributor through.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Well, he would be in a contributor's category, and I've
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: represented him the last two years, and he didn't make it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: I'm going to send all the information that I have.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: And I'm sure Paul will, too. Send it to the
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: 14 members of the new contributors committee. And then a
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: guy like Billy White Shoes Johnson, one of the greatest
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: returners in history. I was going to push him with
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: the seniors. I will have information on Billy White Shoes,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: the all 75 year anniversary team. I'll have his info
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: sent to all of the 25 people. voting members so
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: they can see his credentials. I just won't be in
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: there to do anything.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: No Bud Adams as a member of the hall, but
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Ralph Wilson is, former owner of the Bills. And Bills
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: opened up that stadium tonight, John. What do you expect
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: of the atmosphere as they host the Lions?
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: I think they look great against the Texans. They destroyed
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: the Texans' defense, which put on a pathetic performance. And
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: I think they'll go in that new stadium. And everybody
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: but the ones with obstructed views will be able to
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: see my preseason Super Bowl champion.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Chad, you got the Bills?
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I like the Bills. I'm excited about this one. Yeah,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: opening up that state.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: John john chad and i are on board with taking
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the the eagles this week over the titans i don't
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: know about you but uh yeah this.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Is the start of the titans well i'll have to
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: think about that one and.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Let me say since we you brought up the titans
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: there hunting The Hall acting like it had nothing to
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: do with Bill Belichick and expecting me to believe it.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I'll speak for myself and not John here. Expecting me
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: or anyone else in the brain to believe that is
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: like the Titans revoking Jared Stillman's credential right after he
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: got into it with Cam Ward and saying, hey, that
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: incident had nothing to do with it. It's about all
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: these other things. It didn't have anything to do with that,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: even though the next day we're revoking your credential. Come on.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: No one's buying that. It was about Deion Sanders and
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: what he said, and then it's about Belichick. and the
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: negative backlash surrounding that as to why they made all
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: these changes. So that's me saying that, not John. John,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: you took the high road. I took the low road
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: for you, my friend.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: John, he is a Pro Football Hall of Famer. They
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: can take away that. His name is in the Pro
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame for his coverage of the National
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Football League. John, you're the man. Thank you, as always.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Guys, thank you very much, and I hope you have
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: a great rest of the week, and thank you for
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: having me, as always.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: There he is, John McClain. Follow him on social at
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• 31:02
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• 31:19
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  Speaker 1: Historical uniforms. Almost a thing of the past, really, Chad.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, even George is going with the all-white this year.
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  Speaker 1: You've got coaches who sometimes care, sometimes don't. You don't
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: have to ask Summerall about that with Florida. He's just
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: worried about winning. He doesn't care what they're wearing. I'm
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: a fan of the old-school look. Just keep it traditional.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: And that's where we're headed here with the depth chart.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Let me say, we're going to show you the depth
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: chart of old school uniforms, and I'm with you, Hutton.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I like the tradition. Some of these look better than others,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: but we could all agree that this is what these
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: teams either always wear or mostly wear.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Mostly.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: When it comes to it, okay? Some of the complaints
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I got, we posted this on social media, some of
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: it was like, oh, the old school Oregon green and
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: yellow is great. And I'm like, they don't wear those normally.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: So I'm not talking about a throwback uniform. I'm talking
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: about old school college football uniforms that have been worn
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: for generations that continue to get worn in a very
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: similar fashion. Sure, there are little tweaks here and there
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: and little changes, but these are some examples of old
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: school uniforms that, yes, some of these schools have worn
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: different uniforms. They've got newer uniforms they wear occasionally. All
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: those things are true, but these are the ones I
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: like the most. Let's start with number 10, Ohio State.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I've never been a huge fan of the Ohio State uniform,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: but I cannot sit here as a fan of college
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: football and argue that that is not a classic look.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: When I see that uniform and that helmet, that gray
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: helmet on the field, I know that Ohio State is playing.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. There is something Hutton at
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: number nine about that block in, just the very standard in.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Totally agree.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: On the Nebraska helmet, they're like, okay, that is Nebraska football.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I don't like it when they wear anything other than that.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: They've changed the uniform a little bit this season. I
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: don't like it. This, to me, is the Nebraska uniform
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: as it always should be, and I love it. Texas
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: is another one that it has not changed much over
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: the years. No stripe down the middle of the helmet,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: solid white with the burnt orange longhorn on it, the
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: home uniform, the white pants, Texas across the chest. where
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of schools have nothing. Look, I'm from the
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: state of Tennessee. I believe that the Tennessee orange is
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: better than the burnt orange, but cannot argue with that
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: being a classic college football uniform. Oklahoma at number seven.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Don't need to say much about that one. Another one.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: No stripe down the helmet, right? It's OU. It's solid
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: maroon up top. It's Sooners across the chest. It's great.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: This is the one that's going to piss some people off.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Iowa at number six. My favorite color scheme is black
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: and gold or black and yellow in some form or fashion.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love the Pittsburgh Steelers color scheme.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I love Vanderbilt's color scheme. I love Colorado's color scheme.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: For that reason, the Iowa Hawkeyes, black and gold, black
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: and yellow, however you want to describe that second color
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: with them, with the Hawkeye on the helmet, I love it.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I don't love Iowa's punt-heavy strategy as a team, but
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I do love their development of tight ends, and I
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: love that home uniform for Iowa. So they're number six
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: on my list. Michigan, number five, that helmet with the wings.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: We all recognize it. We all know it. USC at home.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Even though they can't get anybody to go to their games,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: if they did go to the games, they would see
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: a beautiful, traditional, old-school throwback uniform that continues to deliver
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: with that USC uniform. Notre Dame at number three, the
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Golden Domers, the home uniform. I do like the alternate
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: green maybe even more than this uniform, but when you
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: see that Notre Dame uniform, you know what it's time for.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: It makes you want to fire up a copy of
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Rudy and go watch it every time you see Notre Dame.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: It does. Hunting 2-1, to me, I could interchange.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: It's 1A and 1B.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I think it's 1A and 1B, absolutely. Plain white helmet,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Penn State, Navy blue, the white pants, the whiteout games
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: they play where all you can see is the Navy
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: blue on the field.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Beautiful.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Beautiful. Makes me think about cold weather games. Makes me
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: think about Joe Pa. Makes me think about Kerry Tom Collins.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Makes me think about Kajana Carter back in the day.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I love, love, love those Penn State uniforms. And number one,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: you're welcome to the next round live, guys. It's Alabama.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: It's the number on the helmet. It's Bear Bryant. It's
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the crimson uniforms. It's the white pants. Cannot go wrong
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: with that, even for Alabama haters out there. You have
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: to acknowledge the fact that that uniform, it still holds
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: up all these years later.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I like the list. A couple honorable mentions. Can I
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: throw some in?
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I wrote down Florida State.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Just because they're consistent. I feel like if I'm going
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: to a game, I can go ahead and presume the
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: color scheme I need to wear if I'm a fan.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I also like, speaking of consistent, how Florida State didn't
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: bow out to people not wanting the Tomahawk Chop to happen.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Remember like the Braves stopped it for a while, then
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: they brought it back. We were joking in that 2021
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: World Series run that the Chop was back at every
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: game going crazy and loud. It never stopped. The war
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: chant for Florida State. I'm watching the pregame against SMU
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: right before the power went out, and they're all doing
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: the war chant and the Chop and everything else. So
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: never went out of style with them.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: What about A & M? Did you consider A & M?
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: A & M? While very traditional, they keep it very consistent.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Too much to me like Alabama and Oklahoma, who are better.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: I think if you match up with another team like that,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? It's very similar. There's no
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: stripe down the middle. It's Alabama. It's Oklahoma. I've considered
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: A & M, but I'm not putting them on the list.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: simply because it's too much like that. And I put
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: those two way ahead of A & M.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: And I know we're thinking old school here, but Miami.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: The Miami ones they have now, I know they're switching
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: to Nike. That's a big story. I think they were
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: with Adidas. Now they're going back to Nike. Um, the,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: with the stripe on the sleeve, like I like that
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: as like the eighties Vinny Testaverde type Miami teams. Um, Yeah,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I would consider it. I just don't go back as
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: far with Miami. It's really kind of a 1980 and
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: beyond team. But sure, they would be under consideration. I
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: think the one that people have the biggest problem with
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: is going to be Iowa. If I had to pick
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: one out, they're not going to like Iowa.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: As far as consistency, it would be Pitt. I would
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: throw Pitt in there as well. For teams that are
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: just not going to wear the crazy... Oregon started it,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: but now Oregon is just kind of a part of
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a group now. Everybody is kind of switching uniforms and
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: doing this and that. There's no old school approach anymore.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: But this is the group that is. The consistent group
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: that's not going to mess with anything.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Even Pitt, remember, changed their color scheme
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: for a while.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: While.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Then they went back to the normal blue and yellow,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: but they had that Vegas gold. I remember they called
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: it Vegas gold, navy blue and Vegas gold. So I
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: took them out for that reason. I mean, another one
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: that you could consider is Tennessee.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Tennessee.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: At home. I mean, they do have the alternate uniforms
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: they wear, the black, the smoky gray. But the Tennessee
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: home uniform, the Tennessee helmet uniform, To me is the one.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: I don't consider the uniform up to the old school
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: standard as these schools. But if you just said classic helmets,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: the power T on the Tennessee helmet would probably be
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: in the top 10.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Keep this up, JT. Among these teams, which would you
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: be surprised the most if they swapped it up, Chad?
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Surprised the most would be Bama or Penn State.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: It's the top two. After that, Notre Dame.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Least surprised would be Ohio State.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I think the least surprise to me would probably be
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Nebraska because they are kind of changing the font already
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: and doing some different things. That would be the least
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: surprise if they change it up. Michigan is high up there.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I don't ever see them changing that helmet. Notre Dame
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: is probably not going to put a decal on their
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: helmet ever. We know certain things are just never going
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: to happen. Notre Dame has not changed the plain gold helmet.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Penn State has not changed the plain white helmet. Alabama
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: is never going to permanently change the number on their helmet.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Texas won't put Sonic on their uniform. No. I remember
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Texas at one point had numbers on their helmet also.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: And when they wear alternates, they'll wear a number on
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: their helmet. That's still old school. Oh, yeah.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: That's still as old school as it gets. Well done
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: on the top ten old school college football uniforms. The
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: depth chart for this week.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Quickly, Hutton, too, because people are asking, what am I watching?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: What are the recommendations? Two TV shows I want to
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: recommend right now. I'm in a London state of mind.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I love these two shows. Two shows set in London
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: on different streamers right now. One is Slow Horses. I
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: beat the drum on this routinely every single year. Season
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: six has just dropped. It's one episode a week. It's
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: on Apple TV. Gary Oldman, legendary Oscar-winning actor, plays an overweight,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: older spy... for England, for MI6, and he runs a
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: house called Slough House, which is basically all the rejects
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: of MI6. And he runs this group, and he's brilliant,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: and he's great at his job of being a spy,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: but it's based on a series of Mick Herron novels.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Every season is one book, and they have all the
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: same characters coming back in each one. Terrific show. The
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: guy who plays River Cartwright on the show, who's one
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: of the main characters, is Jack Loudon. He's now the
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Vegas betting favorite to be the next James Bond.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: They shoot two seasons at a time. They're about to
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: shoot season eight. Six is about to air right now.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: They already shot season seven. He is not in the
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: promo material for season eight. So the odds went up
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: that that is a sign that he is leaving that
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: show to become James Bond. He's a Scottish actor like
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Sean Connery, the original James Bond. He's 36 years old.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Terrific actor, great part, and Gary Oldman is terrific in
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: the show. But Slow Horses, watch it. Go back in
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: season one. You can get in the flow of it.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Characters are hilarious. Awesome, awesome show. The other one is
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: The Gentleman on Netflix. The Gentleman is written by Guy Ritchie.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: He directs some of the episodes. Guy Ritchie is who
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I describe as British Taylor Sheridan with his shows. Very
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: similar thing. They're going to get into political discussions, societal issues,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: and just have random conversations. But the characters are amazing
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: in the show. Theo James is the lead of it.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: It is fantastic. It is British aristocracy. The settings they
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: shoot it at, the different estates, the huge mansions that
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: you get to see across England. And it deals with
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: a guy who is a duke. who owns a lot
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: of land in England, that grows marijuana on that land
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: and gets involved with a lot of different criminal enterprises
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: because he grows that marijuana on his land and all
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: the different things that happen with it. Great show. The
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Gentleman on Netflix and Slow Horses just now launched season
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: six on Apple TV.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: It's like Ozark with the Poppy Farms.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Similar. Different accent than Ruth in Ozark, for sure, on everyone.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: And Jacob. Yeah, Jacob, the old farmer. It teaches. There's
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: the rare show that you learn about things when you
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: watch it. In this show, it's amazing the way the
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: cinematography is done because as they're describing how an industry works,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: it'll draw it out for you on the screen. They'll
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: be talking about a business process. 70% of it is this.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: It's someone sketching it out on the screen so you
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: can visually see what they're talking about. The way it's
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: shot is incredible. Also, something I learned about this season, falconry.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: expensive falcons in the Middle East and how that is
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: a sport of kings in like Middle Eastern culture. And
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: there's a whole plot line with a missing falcon that's
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: worth like $ 50 million or something like that. That is
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: a stud falcon that breeds other champion falcons that they're
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: on the hunt for. But I'm learning about falconry on
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: the show also.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: It's terrific.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, The Gentleman on Netflix, Slow Horses Apple TV,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: go watch it. Trust me.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: And somehow it always turns back to Will Forte, the Falconer,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: on Saturday Night Live.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: He has not had a cameo yet on the show,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: but I'd love to see Will Forte appear in either
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: one of these shows.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: The Falconer. There it is. I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued by
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Slow Horses. That sounds very binge-worthy as well.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Slow Horses you'll like. Yeah, you can get through it.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: They're like 35, 40-minute episodes usually. And the seasons are
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: all eight episodes, six or eight episodes. Get through them quick.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Each season tells one book story. You know, it's one
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: plot line usually. This latest season combines two different books.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I think the book is Joe Country and Sloughhouse are
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: the names of the two books. They combine into one.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: There's like 16 or 17 of these books. So they
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: could be doing these for another, you know, six, seven
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: years if they wanted. But they shoot two seasons at
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: a time. So the moment one season ends, I've never
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: seen this before, but on Apple TV it rolls into
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: the trailer for the next season. So by the time
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: you get to the last episodes, the first time you
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: can see, it's like coming soon on Slow Horses. And
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: it's the whole next season already shot that you can
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: see a preview for once the one season ends. Love it.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Me too. Coming up, our Hard Rock Lock of the Week.
• 46:05
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• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so going back to a tried and true method
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: here of fading the Tennessee Titans, which is a great
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: route to go. I made the mistake of betting on
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: the Titans, thinking, oh, it's the Jets. It's at home.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: It's game one. They'll find a way to squeak by
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: the New York Jets. Instead, they got dominated. They're going
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: to get dominated again this weekend. Eagles coming to Nashville.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: It's going to be 75-25 Eagles fans. in that stadium.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: And there's also going to be 25,000 empty seats in
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: the stadium. That's my prediction for the game. And those
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Eagles fans are going to be very happy because their
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia team is winning by more than seven points in
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: this game. Give me Eagles minus seven in Nashville. They're
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: taking care of business. Their fans are going to go
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: drain Broadway before and after the game. And they're going
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: to be very happy singing that stupid fight song they
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: have for the Eagles. Eagles minus seven is my hard
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: rock lock.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I like it. I like it so much. I'm staying
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: with that game. My lock of the week, Chad, I'm
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: taking the under 17 and a half total points for
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. They have averaged under 17 and a
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: half points. right at 17 points over the last four
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: years combined offensively. This is a team that didn't get
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: a touchdown in week one until garbage time. They can
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: only muster a field goal despite starting fast in the game,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: which is what they do. They're traditionally fast starters over
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: the last several seasons with nothing to show for it
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: during the bulk of the game. If they score early,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I'm still not worried. I'm taking the under 17.5 total
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: points for the Titans. This is an offense that's going
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: nowhere fast. And I think this is another 1-800-ASSWIP, courtesy
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: of the Philadelphia Eagles. Titans starting 0-2, despite having a
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: schedule where they could win in September, they're focused more
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: on getting and improving. It's about where they're going, not
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: where they are. Talking more about December than September. That's,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: to me, set up for disaster yet again. It could
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: be the under 17.5 total points. You could play this
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: every week, Jack. This could be our lock every single
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: week for hard rock.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: The one thing that could mess up your bet is
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: some silly special teams touchdown or turnover or a pick
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: six or a fun recovery for a touchdown. That's the
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: one thing that I'd be worried about with that. I
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: can honestly say I'm not overly worried about the Eagles.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's a push. Maybe they win by seven exactly.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: But I'm not too worried about the Eagles not winning
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: by more than a touchdown when this game is said
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: and done.
• 49:18
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• 49:22
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• 49:31
  Speaker 1: We were 2-0 last week. We'll make it that way again.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Did you see some of the responses to the tighten
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: up chant? That they did at the stadium this past week?
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: I did not, no.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: This is real. These are all from Reddit, from Titans fans.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: On Reddit, they have this new Titan Up chant that
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: they're trying to get going as they go into the
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: new stadium. They want this to be part of it.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: It's not organic at all. The new Titan Up chant
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: resembled a pacing that was drawn out slow, drew widespread confusion.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: The whole thing felt like one terrible corporate quarterly meeting,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: said one fan. I left saying, what the F was that?
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: and almost gave the post-game survey as bad of a
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: rating as possible compared to what I saw in the field.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Failing to create a new chant, the most depressing thing
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I've ever heard of, was another fan. I've literally never
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: experienced anything as bad as what I experienced in that
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: stadium today, even disregarding the putrid play on the field,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: the weird-ass chants, the horrific music choices, their lack of
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: ability to generate any energy in the stadium whatsoever. I
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: literally walked out of the stadium at the end, looked
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: at my buddy and just said, What the F was that?
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Neither of us could answer that question. I even think
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: the players are cringed out by it. There's another fan.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: So the chant was in the stadium pregame? Like they
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: were trying to get people to do some chant before
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: the game?
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: So preseason, they had Delaney Walker on this video board
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: trying to explain what they were doing. They build up
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: on the first, second, third time they say it with
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: tighten up. And it's supposed to build up to a
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: big play. where everybody gets loud, and the final tighten-up
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: chant is where you get really loud, like a third-down
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: play or a big play in the game, going into
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, right before the game, whatever. They had
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Javon Kearse come out and do this. And my message
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: to all former Titans players, do not be a part
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: of this chant. Do not sign up to do this,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: because you will be a part of what is being
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: laughed at by fans. And it's just crickets. No one's
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: doing it, especially whenever you're right. It'll be 70% Eagles.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: especially when the rest of the stadium has their own
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: chance for you. You know, J-E-T-S, Jeffs, Jeffs, Jeffs, was louder,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: much louder than the tighten-up chance that no one knew
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: what they were doing. And it's the most unorganic thing
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: that they could have come up with. It's cheesy, and
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: the fans don't like it, especially whenever you're scoring three
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: points the majority of the game.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: If they want to start getting atmosphere in that stadium,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: they need to do what bowl games do and give
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: equal time to both sides. So this weekend you can
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: start by doing Philadelphia Eagles traditions during the game to
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: get their crowd into it. Play fly, Eagles fly after
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: a touchdown. You know, like a bowl game does. Like
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: they have the recordings, the band's fight songs, and you
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: go to an NCAA tournament game, Hutton, they're playing fight
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: songs over the speakers for both teams. They're doing their
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: pregame warmup. They're doing the other team's pregame warmup. I mean,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: just give in to what you are. You are a
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: visiting team's destination to come in and get a win
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: and celebrate a weekend and have fun in a stadium
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: that's dying, that's about to be over with. Now is
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: not the time to start a ridiculous... inorganic chant before
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: a game. Why did they not think to start that
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: with a new stadium, even if they were going to
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: attempt something like that?
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I think their goal was like, that's why they started
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: with the uniforms this year. Their goal was to have
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: the uniforms already being worn in the new stadium for
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: game one, instead of being purchased game one, they want
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: to go ahead and distribute those across a fan base.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: And I think they want to have some of these, uh,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: quote unquote traditions. And I put that in air quotes, uh,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: these traditions already established going into the stadium where they
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: unveil everything and everything's kind of, everything's kind of organized,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: so to speak. This is, it's falling flat on its
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: face because it's just, it's not cool. And they might
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: as well just have a marching band. The Titans should
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: have their own band. That would be much better and
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: bring a better atmosphere to an empty and dead Nissan stadium,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: if not for the discounted tickets being sold. to opposing
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: fan bases. It's bad. It is. It's really terrible.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I would stop trying anything if I were the Titans
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: right now. Just shut it down for the season. Just
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: show up, play some music on the speaker. No sacrificial
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: lamb former Titans players coming in to do something stupid.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: None of that. Just give some of your gate to
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: charity and call it a year. That's what I would
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: do if I was Titans marketing. Give up now.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Next round live coming up your way right now. We're
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: back at it for the Friday edition. We get you
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: ready for all the kickoffs right here on Hutton and
• 54:01
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