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American Townhall and Pulse of the People · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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  Speaker 1: How are you feeling about the state of the union
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  Speaker 1: right now?
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  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people are frustrated. They're frustrated
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  Speaker 2: with Donald Trump. They're frustrated with the economy. They're frustrated
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  Speaker 2: with the Iran war. They are even frustrated with influencers
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  Speaker 2: on social media and those that we used to rely on,
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  Speaker 2: like Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Megyn Kelly, Thomas Massey.
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  Speaker 2: There are people on both sides of all of those things.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to your Friday night. I hope you had a
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  Speaker 2: great week. I'm Booker. This is The Truth Be Told.
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  Speaker 2: And we're going to do something we used to do
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  Speaker 2: quite a bit here on the program, and that was
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  Speaker 2: going into LiveX Spaces, Twitter. All the way back to Twitter,
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  Speaker 2: we used to do this. If you don't remember, Spaces
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  Speaker 2: is a place where people come together on social media
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  Speaker 2: on X, and you can grab a microphone and tell
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  Speaker 2: us how you feel. You can ask questions, and that's
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  Speaker 2: what we're going to do tonight. There are many things
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  Speaker 2: going on from Iran to Donald Trump, the economy. Are
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  Speaker 2: you satisfied with Donald Trump right now? Are you frustrated?
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  Speaker 2: What about the base, the MAGA base? Is it okay?
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  Speaker 2: Or has it been splintered by those that I've mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, and others? There are a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things to discuss. We'll find out tonight how people
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  Speaker 2: are feeling about this as we go live into this
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  Speaker 2: X space. This is a town hall. It's a pulse
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  Speaker 2: of the people. And let's start things out this hour
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  Speaker 2: with the old hillbilly. Go ahead, sir. You have the mic.
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  Speaker 3: I find it ironic that you just can't you can't quit.
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  Speaker 3: And I voted for Trump three times. You know, he's
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  Speaker 3: the last presidential candidate I ever voted for. Still drastically portrayed.
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  Speaker 3: You know, and it's just the attitude a lot of
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  Speaker 3: the megabanks, not all of them, they have when you
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  Speaker 3: question anything that happens, anything, as being an enemy of
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  Speaker 3: the state or being a commie or a Nazi or
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  Speaker 3: whatever evil terminology they want to default to. It's just
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  Speaker 3: juvenile and childish. As Americans, we have the right to
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  Speaker 3: question our leaders. We don't have to agree with every
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  Speaker 3: single thing they do. And that don't make you enemy
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  Speaker 3: of the state. That don't make you the antichrist because
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  Speaker 3: you question, you know, President Trump or you question his
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  Speaker 3: decisions or you ask, why is this happening? Why is
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  Speaker 3: he doing this? So I just wanted to share that
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  Speaker 3: real fast as well.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for your thoughts and your words there. And
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  Speaker 2: I think people should listen to what he just said.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's right. You can't just go at each
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  Speaker 2: other all the time because you're really contributing to what
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  Speaker 2: is trying to be done to the MAGA base and
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  Speaker 2: America First and conservatives. And that's trying to destroy you.
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  Speaker 2: And if you do those things, then you're really not
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  Speaker 2: going to encourage people to get out and go vote.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody goes and votes because you are beating each other up.
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  Speaker 2: And I think you made a lot of great points.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for coming in and taking a microphone and sharing
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  Speaker 2: those thoughts. Let's go to Reba and see what kind
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  Speaker 2: of thoughts she has. Reba, go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, everyone. I find it very interesting that there are
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  Speaker 4: a few of us who are accused of being anti-Semites,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm not. And I think you're pretty clear on that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with the Israeli people. I
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  Speaker 4: take issue with the Israeli government, which we know who
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  Speaker 4: that is. And I find it very interesting that there's
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  Speaker 4: a few of us, we're growing in numbers, who questioned
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  Speaker 4: that government that now suddenly out of the blue, coincidentally,
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  Speaker 4: Laura Loomer, of all people, leaks out that Trump told blah, blah, blah,
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  Speaker 4: netting on you. You're alive because you're not in prison
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  Speaker 4: because of me. Is it not obvious? I mean, they
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  Speaker 4: keep talking about this plan, but where is this plan?
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's been eight years. this plan. Can you
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  Speaker 4: at least give me the first 12 months of the plan?
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  Speaker 4: We've lived through that part. I mean, I'm not asking
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  Speaker 4: for the exact blueprint, but what the hell is going on?
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  Speaker 4: Because the optics and the audio don't match what the
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  Speaker 4: American people are seeing. Period.
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  Speaker 1: Bottom line.
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  Speaker 4: Everything's getting better for the richer. Everything's getting better for corporations.
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  Speaker 4: But the little guy, the middle class, we are all
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  Speaker 4: taking it up the, and I'm not going to finish that,
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  Speaker 4: you know. So there's that, and I yield.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Reba. Booker, you got your hand up.
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  Speaker 1: Go for it, brother.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead. Did someone jump in and want to say
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  Speaker 2: something real quick? Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I thought I was behind on Hillbilly.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Kenny.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to say that I was going
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  Speaker 5: to say on the on the thing of Bongino, like
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  Speaker 5: I used to watch his show a lot. And I've
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  Speaker 5: told you this before, too, personally. I used to watch
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  Speaker 5: his show a lot. I really liked him when he
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  Speaker 5: got an administration. I did think he was going to
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  Speaker 5: change a lot of things. But as all this has
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  Speaker 5: spiraled out, he's became part of the same problem that
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  Speaker 5: we've been trying to fight. He's become part of the system.
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  Speaker 5: And I think why he ended up resigning was he
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  Speaker 5: did have a guilty conscience. And why I say that
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  Speaker 5: is I think the way him and the other FBI
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  Speaker 5: director we had, how they handled the Charlie Kirk assassination
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  Speaker 5: investigation or whatever was horrible. And I think he has
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  Speaker 5: a guilty conscience about that. He was very close with Charlie.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm thinking there's some things that are not being
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  Speaker 5: answered on that. I don't think we ever will get
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  Speaker 5: answers on that again. And I'm telling you, I'm someone
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  Speaker 5: who followed him pretty hardly. Tucker Carlson's the same way.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's perfect or anything, but I do
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  Speaker 5: think he had certain things. He had certain views on
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  Speaker 5: the war and everything. Now, I think a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people's opinions, their beliefs on should we have started this war?
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  Speaker 5: Was this a good idea? I think a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people are vilified. becoming vilified. Because there were people screaming
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  Speaker 5: out that, oh, we should follow whatever Trump says and everything.
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  Speaker 5: And to old Hillbilly's point, I think it's kind of
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  Speaker 5: become a cult. Because I think, let me explain this
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  Speaker 5: by the way. I voted for Trump. I've been a
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  Speaker 5: huge supporter of Trump. I thought he was weaponized in
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  Speaker 5: his last thing.
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  Speaker 3: But I think.
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  Speaker 5: Leading up to Butler, I think a lot of things
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  Speaker 5: started to change. And people can't say that a lot
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  Speaker 5: of his demeanors and a lot of stuff has changed.
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  Speaker 5: And honestly, I think there's just a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 5: going on behind the scenes. But you see Netanyahu and
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  Speaker 5: the news about that.
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  Speaker 2: And to me, this isn't news.
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  Speaker 5: Because I had a feeling that something was going on
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  Speaker 5: behind the scenes. But I do think that there's, like
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  Speaker 5: I said, I do think that there's a lot of
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  Speaker 5: control going on right now. And I don't think he's
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  Speaker 5: a part of that, personally. But, you know, like, I
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  Speaker 5: think that, I think in large instance, I think a
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  Speaker 5: lot of us, they've done a good job of destroying
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  Speaker 5: the MAGA base. If you want my honest opinion.
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  Speaker 6: But did they?
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  Speaker 7: Kenny, not to interrupt, but did they? Because look at
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  Speaker 7: the primaries. Look what happened. Did they really do a
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  Speaker 7: good job? I think that we're in a microchamber here
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  Speaker 7: on X, and we're believing things that aren't going on.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, because look at the primaries, look at the
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  Speaker 7: Trump-endorsed candidates, and look who rung it in. I'm saying,
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  Speaker 7: look at the infighting.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the infighting.
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  Speaker 7: Well, there is infighting, but there's always drama on X,
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  Speaker 7: because people are drama queens, and people want to drama.
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  Speaker 7: But if you take the facts out of it, I
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  Speaker 7: do want to go to Booker, because he is absolutely— this
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  Speaker 7: was one of the reasons that Smitty and Booker wanted
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  Speaker 7: to dialogue— So while they dialogue, we're just going to
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  Speaker 7: mute up and let them dialogue for a little minute.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome in, Booker. How are you doing, honey?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing good. And let me say this. I'll preface
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  Speaker 2: this with some of the things I'm going to say
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  Speaker 2: you're going to get pissed off at. Let me also
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  Speaker 2: say I don't care. I'll just start there, and then
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  Speaker 2: we'll go from there. Let's talk about a couple of
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  Speaker 2: things that have been mentioned since I came in here.
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  Speaker 2: Before I do that, I want to go back to
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  Speaker 2: expectations because so much of this has to do with expectations.
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  Speaker 2: And I said this after the election in 2024. Don't
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  Speaker 2: have any expectations for arrests. They have to prove a
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  Speaker 2: case beyond a reasonable doubt. Just because people say things
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  Speaker 2: on Twitter doesn't make it true. And just because politicians
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  Speaker 2: say things doesn't make it true. They lie every day.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's, you know, you take a look
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  Speaker 2: at Kash Patel and Bongino in particular. They were on podcast.
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  Speaker 2: And when you're on podcast, the more inflammatory remarks and
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  Speaker 2: hyperbolic remarks that you make, the more likely you are
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  Speaker 2: to get people to watch it because that's what feeds
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  Speaker 2: people and what they want to eat. It doesn't necessarily
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  Speaker 2: make it true that you can sit there and say, well,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to do this and this and this. These
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  Speaker 2: people have done this. Where is the crime? And I'll
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  Speaker 2: give you an example of that. The auto pen, that
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  Speaker 2: is not illegal. There is no law on how the
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  Speaker 2: auto pen can be used. And that's been one of
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  Speaker 2: my frustrations with this 119th Congress. Why haven't they passed
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  Speaker 2: a law so that this is never done again? There
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  Speaker 2: is no law on the books for auto pen. That's
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  Speaker 2: just a simple example. Let me address Charlie Kirk, though,
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  Speaker 2: real quick. I have said this consistently. There has never
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  Speaker 2: been more evidence of someone that has committed a murder
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  Speaker 2: or an assassination than there is in the case of
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson. there is no plan, there never was a plan,
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  Speaker 2: then none of that exists. If you still believe there
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  Speaker 2: is a plan that's going to happen, then you have
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  Speaker 2: to believe that Donald Trump, as part of the plan,
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  Speaker 2: allowed 12 to 15 million illegal immigrants into this country.
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  Speaker 2: And is that the plan that you believe in? Because
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe that that would be part of the plan.
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  Speaker 2: You have a battle of ideologies is what is going
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  Speaker 2: on in this country. It's more than about a man
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  Speaker 2: and a rally. It's about where this country is going
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  Speaker 2: in the future. When we pick at each other and
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  Speaker 2: get at each other like we are over things like
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  Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson, all that does is feed into what they
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  Speaker 2: need to win. And by they, I mean those that
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  Speaker 2: have a different ideology than me, those that want socialists
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  Speaker 2: to come in this country, you're going to end up
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  Speaker 2: with a bunch of mandanis. Because we are attacking each
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  Speaker 2: other because people that have been paid to influence you
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  Speaker 2: to act that way have been successful.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, Booker, can I honestly ask you, do you think
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  Speaker 8: Tucker has been paid?
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  Speaker 2: Let me finish a couple more points, and then I'll, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because I wrote some down. Because I have an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to speak to people in groups. I did a couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks ago to the oldest Trump Republican club in
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  Speaker 2: the country. I have another one coming up in less
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  Speaker 2: than two weeks. And one of the questions I ask
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  Speaker 2: when I speak, how many of you are on social media? Now,
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  Speaker 2: this may surprise you. About 30%. So if I'm speaking
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  Speaker 2: to a room of 200, there's only 60 that are
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  Speaker 2: on social media. And these are people that are actually
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  Speaker 2: out in the streets knocking on doors, making things happen politically.
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  Speaker 2: So if you think that where we live in this microcosm,
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  Speaker 2: and Gypsy just mentioned it, is.
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  Speaker 2: Making a difference. In reality, it really doesn't because it's
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  Speaker 2: such a small, small space in this country. So please
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  Speaker 2: keep that in mind. Get active. Do something. That's what
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  Speaker 2: makes a difference. And the last thing I want to
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  Speaker 2: address that was mentioned was that Laura Loomer broke that
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  Speaker 2: story about Netanyahu. It really wasn't. It was Axios that
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  Speaker 2: reported that. Loomer was regurgitating what they said. When it
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  Speaker 2: comes to Tucker Carlson, absolutely, he's getting paid. You know,
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: look at his resume. His resume, MSNBC, CNN, and Fox.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't want to go into the details of
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  Speaker 2: what I know about Fox, but Tucker Carlson that you
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: got on Fox was not Tucker Carlson. You know, there
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: are teams of people that make the talking heads on
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  Speaker 2: television that you see become what they are. And so
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  Speaker 2: now he's getting paid by somebody else and he looks
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  Speaker 2: a little bit different. And that's the way I feel.
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  Speaker 2: I hope, you know, I didn't piss people off too much. No,
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  Speaker 2: absolutely not.
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  Speaker 8: So, I mean, I do want to give you a chance.
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  Speaker 8: You do a podcast and a show, I think, daily.
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  Speaker 8: Can you give everybody a chance?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I don't know. I think most people
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  Speaker 2: probably know, but you can find my stuff. I've done
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  Speaker 2: over 700 shows on America Out Loud Talk Radio, which
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  Speaker 2: is the home of Dr. Peter McCullough. Let's see, Trevor
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  Speaker 2: Loudon is on there with me and several others. It's
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  Speaker 2: been around for about 10 years. It's 24-hour-a-day conservative talk radio.
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  Speaker 2: Very smart people, a lot of doctors, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: medical stuff, and some political stuff. I'm one of the
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: few that does political stuff on there, but I'm on
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  Speaker 2: there and also Talk Red, which is you can find
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  Speaker 2: Wayne Dupree there, Wayne Allen Root and others at TalkRed.com.
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  Speaker 2: And then I contribute to the Heartland Journal once a
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  Speaker 2: week with an article there. But, you know, we even
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  Speaker 2: in this microcosm of social media. We can't afford to
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  Speaker 2: go at each other. And I've heard some people talk
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  Speaker 2: about the MAGA base being split up. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't too long ago. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: guys remember DeSantis running for president. The DeSantis people were
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  Speaker 2: the same way in attacking us. It was a DeSantis
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  Speaker 2: person that gave me, I had a legitimate death threat
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  Speaker 2: where police were called. It was a DeSantis person that
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  Speaker 2: doxed me publicly, full name, address. That was somebody on
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  Speaker 2: our side on the America First. A liberal has never
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  Speaker 2: treated me that way. So what we are doing is
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  Speaker 2: contributing to the end of this nation. You know, you
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: have to keep the objective in front of you. And,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if you guys read, I
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  Speaker 2: know that Old Hillbilly read the piece that I did today.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if Gypsy did, but it's talking about, okay,
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  Speaker 2: it's talking about all these elections that have happened since November.
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  Speaker 2: And I've been watching this closely that the GOP is
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  Speaker 2: not turning out to vote in any of these. I
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: don't know if you know this, but in Syracuse, New York,
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  Speaker 2: it had been a Republican government in that county for
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  Speaker 2: 50 years, and now it's not. In the state of Georgia,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: on the same night as New Jersey and Virginia, they
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: had their governor's races that night in November, which, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, Winsome Sears lost by 16 points. Glenn Youngkin
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  Speaker 2: won four years ago as a Republican. So you can
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  Speaker 2: see that the turnout for the Republicans is terrible. And
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  Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons why Trump's endorsements are doing
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  Speaker 2: so well, because all he has to do is say,
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  Speaker 2: go vote for these people. The rest of the Republicans
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  Speaker 2: aren't voting, so they win. But then you have to
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  Speaker 2: look forward to what's coming in the midterm. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what I'm concerned about. And I've written about that since January,
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  Speaker 2: since the calendar turned. I'm concerned about what happens because
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  Speaker 2: if what I believe will happen happens and if we
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  Speaker 2: don't go vote, it definitely will happen. The left is
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  Speaker 2: going to win. They're going to win the House. It's
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  Speaker 2: going to be big. And the Senate's going to be
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  Speaker 2: much difficult. And I put a post out today and
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: basically it's we have to support Susan Collins. If not,
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  Speaker 2: then it's possible that the Democrats could win the Senate.
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  Speaker 2: And you don't want that to happen. I know that
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  Speaker 2: you say, well, that John Thune sucks. They all suck.
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  Speaker 2: We're not getting anything done. Well, that's true. But I
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  Speaker 2: would rather have it the way it is. and have
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  Speaker 2: the gavel and control of that, and have 12 Republicans
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  Speaker 2: on committees, as opposed to having six Republicans on committees.
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  Speaker 2: can't you see?
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• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I'll go back to what I would talk about three
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: or four years ago. And I would do this in spaces. Again,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: this is one of the reasons why I don't come
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: into spaces that much. Because there's a tendency to sit
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: around and talk about what we need to do. And
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I'm just not that kind of person. I'm going to
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: go do something. And so at some point, you have
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: to do something. It's a verb. You don't have a
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: movement unless people are moving. And when people sit in
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: a space for 18 hours a day, it's hard to move.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: So what I would say three or four years ago,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: and there were other people too, very vocal about this.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: You may not know this, but there are 400,000 precinct
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: committee chairs in this country in the RNC and the GOP.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Three years ago, there were 200,000 empty. And the Republicans
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: don't want more people to know about this. And the
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: reason why is because if America First or MAGA had
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: done what we could have done five years ago when
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: we talked about this, then the complexion of the RNC
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: and the GOP would be completely different. It would be
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: 75 percent MAGA. or America first. And then at this point,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: you would be seeing different candidates. But here we are
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: five years later and nobody is going to go do
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: that job, which is very simple to do. And I
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: have a few friends along the way that have started
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: doing that. And they moved up very far. I can
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: tell you one that started knocking on doors five years
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: ago and ended up being a paid employee on the
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Elise Stefanik campaign. And today she is running a campaign
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: being paid for doing it. And she was just like us.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: She was sitting in a space, but she got she
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: got off her ass and she went to the local
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: GOP meeting and got involved and worked her way up
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: within that. And if all of us had done that,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: then we wouldn't be sitting here talking about the things
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: we're talking about right now. We would have a Congress
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: that was actually working for us because that's where those
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: decisions are made. I see it all the time. People say, well,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: primary this person, primary this person. Do you even know
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: what that means? That means, you know, someone commented on
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: one of the posts I made this morning about Susan Collins.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Believe it or not, you have to support Susan Collins
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: to make sure that we maintain the gavel and the committees.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: And by the way, that also maintains the confirmations. I
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: see a lot of people complain about the confirmations. The
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Senate under John Thune has confirmed over 500 people for
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump in 16 months. Do you know that? Or
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: where are you getting your information if you think that
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: it's different? Because that's a fact. And you can Google
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: it right now. Check me. So that's how it's done, Smitty,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: to answer your question. And we haven't done it. And
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I've watched it. And Gypsy can probably back me up
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: on that as well. She's watched it as well. But
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: you have to go and do that. And you don't
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: go in guns blazing. You go in sort of incognito.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: You fit in. You work with those people. Because that's
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: who's picking your candidates.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: So, Booker, I want to ask you this question, though.
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: The question here, or on social media here, the talk
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: of starting a third party is starting to permeate here.
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: I'm starting to see it. And obviously, yeah, you got
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: the libertarians. That's a joke, obviously. But you got the
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: MTGs of the world that are saying we need to
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: start a third party America, first only, this, that, the other.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: And, you know, I can.
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: See some factions of the Democratic Party like Ro Khanna
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: that could probably adhere to that as well and.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Coalesce to that. What is your opinion on that?
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene is an interesting one.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Old Hillbilly was talking about people attacking and going after people.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I was on her three years ago, maybe longer. I
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: have several posts that were going after Marjorie Taylor Greene,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: and it's a perfect example of what he was talking about.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I was attacked relentlessly until now we see what has happened. Um,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: When it comes to a third party, great. Let me
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: tell you something about Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: They are flashes in the pan. In three or four years, irrelevant.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you another one that's going to go there.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: You mentioned Ro Khanna. Nancy Mace is about to get
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: waxed in South Carolina. Watch her join them. So that's coming.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: But a third party is not going to work. It
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: just will not work. They can try. I don't know
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: if people in this room, I know Sherry's here. Hey, Sherry.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: You probably remember there was a movement here on Twitter.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: It was on Twitter again. It didn't exist anywhere else.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: But it was a really strong movement to create our
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: own third party back four or five years ago. So
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: this comes and it goes, and you brought up the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Libertarian Party. They've been around since 1974. After all of
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: these years, they get 2% of the vote. So, you know,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: if you have another one, and again, it goes back
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: to what I said a few minutes ago. When I
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: go speak to a group, I'll say, now, how many
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: of you are on social media? 70% of them are not.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: The way that they consume information is completely different than
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: everybody in this room. I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's different. Because of that, they have
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: a different perspective than everybody in this room.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I can see that.
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: Your take, just off the fist of the cuff, what
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: you see on Twitter versus what you see.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: In real life, is there a big disconnect there?
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: I know I'm saying the obvious here, and then Gypsy
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: kind of pointed that out too. But like with the
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: results of the elections here on Tuesday.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, are you talking specifically like California? Because
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. When we talk about rigged elections, trust me,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: that gets nobody to get up off the couch and
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: go vote. It doesn't help the cause. Not at all.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: And when it comes to California, one thing that I
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: do is look at registrations. In California, if you think
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: a Republican can win, which no Republican has won a
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: statewide race since Arnold Schwarzenegger, and that was 20 years ago,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: look at the registrations. It's two to one Democrat to Republican.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: So even if Steve Hilton ends up being in the
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: top two, Look at the hill he has to climb,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: and on top of that, the independents are almost as
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: many as the Republican. So he would have to take
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: 100% of the independent vote, and everybody on the Republican
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: side would have to go vote just to get to
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: the number of registrations for the Democrats in the state
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: of California. And that's not just California. That's also Illinois
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: and New York and these other states. So it comes
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: down to having a discussion and a battle of heart
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: and mind and the ideology of a people, not just
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: counting votes. Because I ask this question a lot. What
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: about in 2024 when Donald Trump won the presidency? Was
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: there cheating then? And if there was, how did Donald
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Trump win? Correct.
• 26:20
  Speaker 11: Correct.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: And your answer would be because everybody got off their
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: ass and went and voted. That's what needs to happen
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: in November. If not, everything that you don't want is
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: going to happen because in 28, when they win the
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: presidency and they have the House and the Senate, they
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: are going to do everything that you don't want because
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: socialism is a real thing. It's been a battle in
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: this country for a long time. Don't think that it hasn't.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: You can go back and look at the communism during
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: World War II in this country. So it exists. It's
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: just another battle in this nation. And when we feel
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: like we're so far apart and we're never going to
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: be together again, I look back to I'm old enough
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: to remember 1976. I know my friend Sherry down there is, too.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Of course, she was a Canadian then, an American now,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: by the way. That, you know, in 1976, we had
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the Olympics. And as a kid, I thought it was
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: the best summer ever. I thought it was great. We
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: had the Olympics going on. Dwight Stone. What was the
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: swimmer's name? He won, I don't know, seven gold medals.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: What was his name? Mark Spitz, I guess. Mark Spitz.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Who?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Uh, yeah.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Spitz.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: That was when, uh, that was that when Bruce Jenner
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: was a man.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He was a man then. And, but, but you
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: had all that going on, but all we talked about
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: that in 1976 was the bicentennial. And then we had
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: an incredible celebration. The thing is that people forget how
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: divided this nation was just prior to that. Maybe they're
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: not old enough. Maybe they don't know the history, but,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: But we went through civil rights in the 60s. I
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: was a kid that grew up in the South. And
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I can remember water fountains that said white only. They
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: weren't being used anymore. I was bused. I was a
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: second year of busing when I started first grade. My
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: teacher in the third grade had taught at the all-black school.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: My assistant principal in high school had taught at the
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: all-black school. We had gone through all of that in
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: the 60s and into the 70s. And by the way,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: there was something called Vietnam, and there were four students
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: killed in Kent State in Ohio. That was this country.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And you can go all the way back to 1858, 59,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: and there was a Civil War. So if you think
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: things are bad now, they can get worse forever. So
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: keep that in mind when you can, as we come
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: up to 250 years of the greatest nation and the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: greatest experience that has ever existed is this country and America.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I want to keep it. I want to keep it
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: a constitutional republic, not a democracy in socialism. And so
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: when we get into these little battles and fights, is
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: it really significant? Is it really consequential in the real
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: battle of ideologies? And where this nation is going to go.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: And don't think for a minute that they didn't fight
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: like this in 1776 and 1789 because they did. Look
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: at the Great Compromise, the Connecticut Compromise that, that you
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: know they that's how they decided they were going to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: have a house and a senate it came down to
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: a five-state vote yes four voted no massachusetts was evenly
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: split that was before we became a country you know
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: okay so i'll be quiet for a.
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: I think Booker and I think a lot alike. I
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: think you know that as well, Smitty. I've often said
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: we're not necessarily going to vote our way out of
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: this until people start changing their way of thinking.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I'll quote somebody you don't like.
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: Very much, Dan Bongino, but he likes to say, is
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: it painful enough yet? And what it takes to change
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: voter attitudes in this country is when it directly affects
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: your life and you're miserable, then you're going to change
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: your way of thinking and your way of voting. And Booker,
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: do you think that's correct?
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I agree with you completely. I've said that for a
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: while about Mamdani. Don't even worry about him. Everybody wants
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: to post about Mamdani the commie. Let him do his thing.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: They voted for him. They get him. It's a republic.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: That's what they wanted. That's what they get. When the
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: trash piles up to the windows on the second floor
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: because they can no longer provide the services that the
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: government normally does because they've run all the billionaires and
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the businesses out of New York and they lose their
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: tax base. Then the people are going to get to
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: the point that you just mentioned, Matthew, uncomfortable, pissed off,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: and they're going to make a difference. And that also
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: is a cycle in New York. I was there in
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: 1978 or 79. It was a filthy city. Yeah, Giuliani. Yeah,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: and then they got to Giuliani, and he cleaned things up,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and it stayed that way for a while. Yeah, they
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: did broken.
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: Windows policing and cleaned up the streets and put the
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: criminals in jail, and that's what you have to have
• 31:28
  Speaker 9: for a safe society.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: And it's, you know, Mondani and a lot of these guys,
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: and I've said this to some of my friends, they're fads.
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: And when the glam and the fashionability of it diminishes,
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: they're going to be thrown into the street.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Well, and here's, Matthew, if I could, I want to
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: caution people also because I agree with what you said. Typically,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: that is the case. But if you look at numbers
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: from surveys of people under the age of 43, right
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: now when it comes to wind and solar and dei
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: and wokeness 83 of them want to work for a
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: company that has all of those values and that's a
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: problem because in the past i agree 100 it would
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: be a fad it would probably go away but if
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: if we have a society where people under the age
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: of 43 the majority of them even want to work
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: for a company that has those values and they also
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: have those values, then where are we going? And that's
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: why I say it's really a battle of hearts and minds,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: not about policy or legislation or a new bill. And
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: if you want me to talk about SAVE Act, I will,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: but I'll let Matthew keep going right now. And there's
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: a couple of more hands too.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Hi, Booker.
• 32:43
  Speaker 12: Before Booker came on, somebody had said, what did trump
• 32:48
  Speaker 12: do since he's been in office and i you know
• 32:52
  Speaker 12: i i kind of was just floored by that because
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: i'm thinking the borders closed the tax returns were huge
• 33:00
  Speaker 12: uh police morale is up and they're got backing they
• 33:04
  Speaker 12: busted up the somali rings all over the country they
• 33:06
  Speaker 12: cleaned up dc uh the usa the the uh morale
• 33:14
  Speaker 12: of USA itself is stronger than ever. Brought back stranded
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: astronauts that Biden left up there. They met all the
• 33:23
  Speaker 12: military goals for recruitment. I can go on. The eggs
• 33:29
  Speaker 12: were $ 9 a carton. Now you can get up to
• 33:34
  Speaker 12: 99 cents. So the list goes on.
• 33:38
  Speaker 10: And what is it?
• 33:39
  Speaker 12: What, a year and a half we're in? And the
• 33:43
  Speaker 12: last I want to say, someone brought up that they
• 33:46
  Speaker 12: botched the Charlie Kirk assassination. I'm 100% against that because
• 33:52
  Speaker 12: the trial has not even started, nor have we seen
• 33:56
  Speaker 12: the evidence that the FBI has. So I guess I'll
• 33:59
  Speaker 12: just wait for the trial and see if they actually
• 34:01
  Speaker 12: botched it. What we botched is security, but who knows
• 34:07
  Speaker 12: what they've stopped. And again, I'll say I was never
• 34:12
  Speaker 12: a big Bongino fan.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: I liked him.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: He was okay.
• 34:17
  Speaker 12: But I think his hands got tied. And I think
• 34:20
  Speaker 12: Tucker has completely turned in Booker's spot on. It's whomever
• 34:25
  Speaker 12: you're working for. And let's recall, Tucker was fired from
• 34:30
  Speaker 12: all three major stations.
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: Why?
• 34:33
  Speaker 12: Probably because of the funding, you know, like who you're
• 34:37
  Speaker 12: getting paid for, but that's it. I'm going to drop
• 34:40
  Speaker 12: down and give somebody else the mic. I said my point.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Let me jump in. Let me jump in. I was
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: just going to say, let me jump in real quick
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: on a couple of things you said, but go ahead.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:52
  Speaker 12: Booker, Jerry was in here for a second and I,
• 34:55
  Speaker 12: we missed her and I wanted to say hi to Jerry,
• 34:57
  Speaker 12: if she's listening down below or not. you know, so
• 35:01
  Speaker 12: that's that. Okay, thank you, everybody. Let's be nice to
• 35:05
  Speaker 12: each other. And Booker, one last thing that you had said.
• 35:08
  Speaker 12: I'm sorry, I apologize. I did go to GOP two
• 35:12
  Speaker 12: years ago, three years ago. I've since left that state.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: I live in Louisiana, but.
• 35:19
  Speaker 12: I i tell you i went there three years ago
• 35:22
  Speaker 12: it was a turning point action neat and not one
• 35:26
  Speaker 12: person other than the person in charge of neat knew
• 35:28
  Speaker 12: who charlie kirk was i know they know who he
• 35:30
  Speaker 12: is now but they didn't know who he was you
• 35:33
  Speaker 12: know my point was i couldn't it was like beating
• 35:36
  Speaker 12: a wall a brick wall with them i couldn't get
• 35:39
  Speaker 12: them to move but that's it thank you.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah let me um clean up and add to
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: some of the points that Laura made because she made
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: some really good ones. And this is the question that
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I ask people quite a bit. If you go back
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: to November 2024, there were two things that were at
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: the top of everybody's list to vote, whether you were
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Democrat or Republican. It was the border and it was
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the economy. And it's always going to come back to
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: the economy. That's always there. But if I had gone
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: back in November, right after the election, and I'd asked
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: everybody in this room, you go in one year from now,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: one year from now, and no illegal immigrants are being
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: allowed into the interior of the country, and nothing else
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: on the Trump agenda was done, would you be happy?
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: And I don't think there's one person in here that wouldn't,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: because I think we forget the angst that we had
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: when Joe Biden was having a wide-open border. and Lake
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: and Riley was killed, and Nungaree, and we had rapes
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: from these illegal immigrants. It was a big thing that
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: was so important to all of us. Well, it was fixed,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: and it didn't take a bipartisan bill that they tried
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: to shove down our throats in February of 2024 that
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: would have legalized illegal immigration by allowing up to 8,000
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: illegals in here daily. All it took was a change
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: in having Donald Trump come in, change the messaging and
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: enforcing the laws that we currently have on the books.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: So I think everybody would be thrilled if you take
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: everything out of it. But let's go to the economy
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: because Laura brought it up. More truth in minutes on
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: America Out Loud Talk Radio. Someone asked me the other day,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: how do you even get a sense of what's going
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: to happen next? It's hard. I don't know that we
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: can the way the news moves so fast. But you
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: know what I told them? I said, I've been checking
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: out PolyMarket a little bit. It's extremely insightful. You're basically
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: watching how thousands of people are betting on outcomes. Political elections,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: big policy moves, even events you wouldn't expect. It's kind
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: of like a live pulse on what the public actually believes.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: And you can see trends before they even happen and
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: before they even make the mainstream news. For me, it's
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: not about gambling. It's about understanding the probabilities and where
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: the momentum is shifting. If you like or love the
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: news like I do, maybe you're a news junkie, but
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: you want to take a little deeper look at what
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: people really think, go to Polymarket. It's a fascinating tool. Polymarket.com.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I think we can all say that Trump over speaks,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: you know, and he does. Let's just be honest. It's
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: his personality. I think it's kind of funny sometimes. But
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: the grocery prices were not going to come down. When
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: inflation is on top of inflation, on top of inflation,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: on top of inflation, for grocery prices to come down,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: you would need to catch up to where they were
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: before Biden had a cumulative inflation of 20%. You would
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: have to have negative 20% deflation. which only comes in
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: a depression. So you don't want that. You want a balancing.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: And what you want is wage growth with low inflation.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Just prior to the government shutdown, the first one that
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: lasted 43 days, which was a record at the time,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: since then they broke their own record. But if you
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: go back to that, there was 1.7% inflation, wage growth
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: was up over 4%, and that's how you make things
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: more affordable. If people are making more money and they're
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: spending less because they can't, then things are better economically.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: And that's where things were going. By the way, GDP
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: was up over 4% before that government shutdown. The government
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: shutdown came and Q4 was sucky. And then we had
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: another government shutdown or partial anyway. And let me just
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: say this about this, because I think this is really
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: probably the most important thing that we really should be
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: talking about right now. And that is another reconciliation that
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: is passed before September 30th of this year with all
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: 12 appropriations in it, because the Republicans ultimately are responsible
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: for both of those government shutdowns. And I know that
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: it has become regular business that we do continuing resolutions.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: And then we come to some sort of agreement. And
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: when you do that, the other side is going to
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: get something because it takes 60 votes to do a
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: continuing resolution. So Schumer and the Democrats are getting something
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: every time you do that. We don't have to do that.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: We didn't have to do that last year. The big,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: beautiful bill when they passed that was an omnibus, 12
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: appropriations within it. It was a reconciliation, which only takes
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: 51 votes. One of the four things in the Senate
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: that takes 51 votes, that was for the previous year's budget.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: You understand that? This was passed in July 2025. The
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: budget was due September 30th, 2024, and they had done
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: the continuing resolutions, which keeps the old budget going. is
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: what that does. And that's what they did until July
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: of 25. They passed a big, beautiful bill for that year.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: But guess what? Three months later, they were supposed to
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: have 2026 done, which was September 30th. They didn't. And
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: because they didn't, they gave the leverage to the Democrats
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: by doing a continuing resolution. And then the government was
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: shut down. To prevent that from happening again, all 12
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: appropriations need to be in one reconciliation omnibus that can
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: be passed before September 30th and signed by Donald Trump
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: so that the government can be funded October 1st, which
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: is the law that Congress passed. And if they don't,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: then you're going to have a shutdown government going into
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: the midterm in November, all during early voting. And I
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: can promise you it will be an absolute bloodbath for
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: the Republicans. So they lose the House, maybe the Senate
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: at that point if people are pissed off enough. And
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: guess what happens? You're going to have two years of investigations, impeachments.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: And I say this when I'm talking to people in
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: groups and in speeches. If you don't think that there's 15, 16,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: or 17 Republican senators that would vote for the removal
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: of Donald Trump, then you're not watching the same Senate
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I am. Because going into 2028, there are going to
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: be some Republican senators that want to get as far
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: as they can from Donald Trump if everything I just
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: described happened. Does that make sense?
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on Lurch?
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Who's Lurch? I don't know who Lurch is. Where's Lurch?
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Pennsylvania.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Well, okay.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, Fetterman.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Fetterman.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Okay, here's the thing. I talked about the Great Compromise,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: the Connecticut Compromise earlier. And the debate and the argument
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: at that time was James Madison. He wanted it set
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: up like the House. See, that's what he wanted. Now,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: this I forget his name, Roger Bernard, I believe is
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: his name from Connecticut. He wanted it where the states
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: could have representation because he was fearful that the states
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: and smaller states would get lost and all the decisions
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: for the government would be made by the populous states.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: So I'm talking about the Senate now. And so he
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: he favored the Senate. That was the compromise. So what
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: they did was they did both. And then that was
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: the great compromise of the Connecticut Compromise. And that's why
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: we have a House and the Senate. So when it
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: comes to a senator, a senator represents the state, not MAGA,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: not America First, not 800,000 people in a congressional district
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: like the House of Representatives. They represent the entire state.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: And when you look at Pennsylvania and the fact that
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: they voted for Trump last time, then he is making
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: a whole lot more sense to people on the right
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: than he did prior to that. But he is representing
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: the people of Pennsylvania. If you look how he votes, though,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: most of the time he still votes like John Fetterman
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: did when Joe Biden was president. That's my thoughts on him.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: I just want to share something we were talking about
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: a second ago that if we're not careful, we're going
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: to jump up and bite us in the rear end,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: so to speak. You know, everybody assumes that no way
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: socialism could ever become dominant in this country. No way
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: we could ever lose democracy. the White House to a
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: democratic socialist. It could never happen. It's just absolutely unfathomable
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: it could ever happen. But if you look at the
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: trend amongst younger Americans in this country, say between the
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: ages of 18 and 26, And you look at how
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: hungry or how blindly they fall for the misleading message
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: of socialism and everything is free and a better life
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: is free and, you know, all this other stuff. And
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: you really follow that to the T, how these people
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: are eating this up. It's a dangerous mistake to assume. That, well,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: we've always had a Republican or we've always had a
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Democrat we didn't agree with, but there was still a Democrat.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: We never had a socialist Democrat in the White House.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: We never had a radical, you know, a Bernie Sanders
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: type or the mayor of New York type as president
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: of the country. And that could never happen in America.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: You know, that's dangerous. Before Adolf Hitler took over Germany,
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: he was a fan. Nobody thought he was anything until
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: by the time they realized he was deadly and serious,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: he ran the country and started two wars. It's just
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: dangerous to assume something can never happen because the second
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: you make the blind assumption it couldn't happen, that's when.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: It will happen.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Let's go to that other hand there, and then I've
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: got some thoughts on top of what he just said
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: about socialism and I wrote an article back, I think
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: it was in December of 24, about how MAGA is
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: actually contributing to socialism coming into the country. And when
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: I first came into this space and that was kind
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: of the vibe and the flavor of it, how everybody
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: was fighting with each other, that's what I'm talking about.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: And I'll get into that, but let's go to Han.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: He's been very patient.
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: Okay, it's good to see you, buddy. But what I'm
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: starting to realize is that these midterms is about getting
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: the states back. And that's what we've talked about before
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: is getting the states back. We've had a huge discussion
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: about that. I remember that. And I think that that's
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: what's very key, very important. And yes, I'm still working
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: at the gas station. I'm still there, but.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I think we need to get out there.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: What?
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Sorry, buddy.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: I said it's been a while since we talked. I
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: remember you now.
• 46:30
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's been a while, but you're dead on. It's
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: exactly right. And if you don't think states aren't important,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: look at what just happened with the gerrymandering in the
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: states that were were held by Republican legislators. They were
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: able to gerrymander. The net result of that is seven
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: to 10. I don't think it's a great big deal, really. And,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: you know, if you want to get in, I have
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: predicted 2022 when everybody said it was a red wave.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I said it wasn't. I actually hit the number on
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: the head then. 2024, I said it would be 222
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: to 213. It was 220 to 215. And I hit
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: the number on 53 at the end of the Senate.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: So I've been pretty close on predicting these things. I
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: wouldn't do it now because it's too far. But if
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: someone put a gun to my head right now, I
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: would say we would lose 30 or 35 seats. And
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: the reason why is because historically, the opposite party of
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: the president loses 25 House seats, and that goes all
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: the way back to the Civil War. It's just history.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: That's what happens. when the approval rating is down around 40%,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: then that number goes up. Even Bill Clinton had a
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: approval rating over 50 and he lost six seats. So
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: that's kind of normal. So if you take even a
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: 50% approval rating, which Donald Trump doesn't have right now, um,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: You know, we lose the House, you know, with the
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Bill Clinton number. I compare it to Ronald Reagan because
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan comes in after Jimmy Carter. We had the
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: highest inflation since the Depression. We had the highest gas
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: prices at that time in history. We had a problem
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: in Iran. Ronald Reagan comes in and wins in 1980.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: And in 1982, at the midterm, he lost 35 seats
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: in the House and had to work with Tip O'Neill.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: And that's because the things that he had done economically
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: and the other things that would help this nation for
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: two decades had not been felt yet at the kitchen table.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: I think the economic engine of this country right now,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: even with what's going on in Iran, it's great. It
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: seems to be very, very solid. Yeah, you're right. States
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: are important. If you didn't catch that on the gerrymandering,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: then you missed the importance of what it was all about,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: which is maintaining control in those states is so very important.
• 48:49
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: And once we get to midterms and we can get
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: our states back, then we can go back to the
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: nuclear family. But we can't go back to the nuclear
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: family until we do something to, you know, in the midterms.
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: And a lot of people, people even come in a
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: gas station and they'll be like, well, all I can
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: do is vote. And they don't feel like they can
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: do anything. You can get involved locally. You can change
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: the midterms. We're going to get our states back. There's
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: people out there that I don't know if they have
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: the courage. I'm not calling them stupid, but maybe they
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: might be ignorant. How do I go forward? I would
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: say I'm not stupid.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: I'm just ignorant.
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: I want to get involved too, but I can't go
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: be a poll worker or not. The only thing I
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: can do is go and work at the gas station.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: I want the nuclear family back. I want us to
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: get our states back. Trump is working on getting our
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: states back. But the thing is, he's telling people, go
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: out there to the midterms. Why do you think Trump
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: keeps saying, go to the midterms? Is that right, Booker?
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: Is that why Trump is telling people to go to
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: the midterms?
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, because Trump has even said it himself. What
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: I said a few minutes ago is, He knows that
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: there are going to be two years of investigations. I
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: can tell you a couple of ways that they'll try
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: to impeach him. I think a couple of ways are
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: pretty clear right now. One, I think you go back
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: to October of last year in the Seditious Six video
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: when they're telling people don't follow illegal orders. I think
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: illegal orders could be one thing that they could try
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: to bring up. Another thing is, I don't know if
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: you have seen how much money Donald Trump Jr. has
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: taken in since Donald Trump's been the president, but there's
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: something else that they're going to investigate. You hear them
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: talking about it in the hearings every day. So You know,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: they have a couple of different avenues that they already
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: have lined up that they're ready to tee up and
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: impeach Trump on. And like I said, if you think
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: that because you have 51 or 52, maybe 53 senators,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: and I think there are some seats that the Republicans
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: could flip. And I'll look at Michigan in the Senate.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: And let me say this, I'm going to piss some
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: people off here, but MAGA got... got Mike Rogers defeated
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: in Michigan in 24. And the reason why is because
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: they kept saying he is deep state, he's deep state.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: So if you look at the raw vote total, which
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: is something I like to look at, there were 100,000
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: less votes for Mike Rogers than Donald Trump. They just
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: didn't vote for a Senator because they thought Mike Rogers
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: was a deep state person. And he was endorsed by
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Ultimately, the person that got elected was a
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: deep state person. in Slotkin, who was a socialist and
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: a CIA employee, because MAGA decided they were smarter than
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump and didn't vote for Mike Rogers.
• 51:43
  Speaker 11: How you doing, Booker? I've said this in a couple
• 51:45
  Speaker 11: other spaces, and I'm going to say it again because
• 51:46
  Speaker 11: it's brought up a lot tonight about the oil, you know,
• 51:49
  Speaker 11: by Iran and the Strait of Hormuz and I'm going
• 51:52
  Speaker 11: to preface this with, you know, I've been in the
• 51:54
  Speaker 11: oil business for over 20 years. I work for a
• 51:56
  Speaker 11: major oil company, one of the top two here for
• 51:59
  Speaker 11: 20 years. And now I'm a consultant and I travel
• 52:02
  Speaker 11: globally dealing with different refining processes everywhere. And my question,
• 52:08
  Speaker 11: and I've asked this to the powers that be, and
• 52:10
  Speaker 11: I get the same standard answer. It's the global market,
• 52:13
  Speaker 11: but I don't understand why. the United States gets basically
• 52:17
  Speaker 11: 0% of our oil from the Strait of Humus or
• 52:20
  Speaker 11: even over there. And I know the major companies that
• 52:22
  Speaker 11: I've worked with, they get none of it from there.
• 52:24
  Speaker 11: It's all coming from South America, you know, Brazil, Venezuela, Mexico,
• 52:27
  Speaker 11: and all that. And I just feel like in my
• 52:29
  Speaker 11: heart of hearts, it's a cash grab because it's not
• 52:33
  Speaker 11: making a lot of sense to me because like I said,
• 52:35
  Speaker 11: I've been doing this a long time and setting all
• 52:36
  Speaker 11: kinds of meetings and before this, and I seen what
• 52:39
  Speaker 11: we were paying for oil when the rest of the
• 52:41
  Speaker 11: world was paying what they pay because everybody wants like,
• 52:45
  Speaker 11: Japan or China, they want cheap oil. And we've got
• 52:48
  Speaker 11: a market over here. We're still getting cheap oil to
• 52:50
  Speaker 11: this day. We're not paying nowhere near what the market
• 52:53
  Speaker 11: is calling for. And I just feel like it's a
• 52:56
  Speaker 11: cash grab because all these major companies are basically building
• 52:58
  Speaker 11: up the revenue because they're going to Venezuela. and revamping
• 53:01
  Speaker 11: all these refineries that's been down for a while, and
• 53:05
  Speaker 11: it's going to help them. And I just, what are
• 53:06
  Speaker 11: your thoughts on that? Because it's just really bothering me,
• 53:08
  Speaker 11: like I said, because I've been doing this for a
• 53:10
  Speaker 11: really long time, and just it kind of bothers me
• 53:12
  Speaker 11: for the American people because, you know, I feel like
• 53:14
  Speaker 11: it's a price gouge. And, you know, when you have
• 53:16
  Speaker 11: a major catastrophe in the world, they get on to
• 53:19
  Speaker 11: companies for price gouging, and I feel like the oil
• 53:21
  Speaker 11: companies are doing that right now, and we're paying for it.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: And I'll land right there.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: No, I don't disagree with much you said there, if anything.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: I think if you go back to the beginning of
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Epic Fury, I remember watching the gas prices about three
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: days after it started, and the gas prices went up
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: a dollar, which is impossible. You're an oil guy, and
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: you know that it takes four to six weeks from
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: that oil to get out of the ground to get
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: to your pump. And if that is the case, then
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: how did it go up a dollar in a week?
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: So there was some grabbing of cash there. I think
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: you're right. But also, I think another thing you have
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: to consider, and you'll know this being an oil guy, that,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: you know, we're close to being energy independent. Not quite.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: And part of the reason why is being able to
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: refine enough oil for the consumption that we use every day.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: And I know that back in COVID, and you please
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: correct me where I'm wrong, but back in COVID, they
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: shut down refineries here in this country. They also changed
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: it over to biofuels. And it got down to a
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: point where we were three to four to five million
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: barrels less than we consumed daily during COVID. We didn't
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: need it at that time because we weren't driving as much.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: But we couldn't, to make ourselves energy independent, if we
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: consume 18 million barrels of oil a day, which is
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: probably close. Am I right? Am I close there? You're
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: almost spot on.
• 54:46
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Okay. So if we consume 18 million, then we have
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: to be able to refine 18 million barrels of oil
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: a day. And we weren't. We were down to 13,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: 14 million. Is that right? I'm pulling this out of
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: my head from years ago because I did a story
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: on it. I did shows on it back then. But
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: that making us energy independent is getting to that number
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: that we can refine that we use. And I don't
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: think that we're quite there yet, which would mean that
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: we still, you know, we get a lot of oil
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: from Canada. You know, Google it and see how much
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: it is. But it's quite a bit from Canada. And
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: that would also affect the pricing in the global market
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: when you get that answer. So maybe that's a little
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: bit of an answer for you. I'm not sure.
• 55:32
  Speaker 11: Well, you can look at the profits right now from
• 55:34
  Speaker 11: these major oil companies. And I'm going to use one,
• 55:36
  Speaker 11: for example. I won't call their name, but they employ
• 55:39
  Speaker 11: over 55,000 people globally. And they were doing so well
• 55:43
  Speaker 11: two months ago, they gave everybody a $ 2, 500 bonus.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: There is only one truth. You've been listening to The
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Truth Be Told with Booker Scott on America Out Loud.