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- 0:00Speaker 1: Because it's time for the inside scoop with Bright Bart News,
- 0:02Speaker 1: b R e I, t BA, RT dot com, Breitbart
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- 0:07Speaker 1: because you get to read not only the other reporting
- 0:09Speaker 1: from all the other reporters there, but also what White
- 0:11Speaker 1: House correspondent Nick Gilbertson has to say. Nick gilberts had
- 0:14Speaker 1: walcome back to the fifty five Carsey Morning Shift. Thank
- 0:16Speaker 1: god you're on, because maybe you can help make some
- 0:18Speaker 1: sense of what's going on with the Iranians right now.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Good to have you back.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Brian, thanks for having me. All right.
- 0:24Speaker 1: I try to view things objectively, and I know we've
- 0:26Speaker 1: been in a ceasefire now forty eight days or so,
- 0:29Speaker 1: and yet yesterday we launched what we call self defense
- 0:33Speaker 1: strikes targeting missile launch sites and Iranian boats. These were
- 0:38Speaker 1: defensive strikes, according to officials speaking with various news outlets,
- 0:42Speaker 1: and they do not indicate the ceasefire with Iran is over,
- 0:45Speaker 1: say these sources, I'm sorry. If you're throwing missiles at
- 0:47Speaker 1: each other, and this has been going on since the
- 0:49Speaker 1: ceasefire was announced, doesn't that definitionally mean there isn't one?
- 0:53Speaker 1: What's your take on that, Nick before we move on
- 0:55Speaker 1: and find out about this negotiated piece.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian, I think a key part of this here
- 1:01Speaker 2: is a lot of this is going like obviously going
- 1:03Speaker 2: on in the straight of horror moves, and it's oftentimes
- 1:06Speaker 2: these small, smaller boats running around, going around the straight
- 1:09Speaker 2: and and doing some of this and so and I
- 1:12Speaker 2: know President Trump has referred to, you know, these types
- 1:16Speaker 2: of things as you know, just stopping this stuff and
- 1:19Speaker 2: quelling it as quote unquote love taps, especially when he's
- 1:24Speaker 2: been asked if there's still a ceasefire, he says, there
- 1:26Speaker 2: is still a cease fire, and these are love taps
- 1:29Speaker 2: to you know, try and keep things in negotiations moving forward.
- 1:33Speaker 2: So I think that's just part of it. And again,
- 1:38Speaker 2: you know, everything seems very fluid right now, especially with
- 1:41Speaker 2: these reports of these negotiations behind the scenes and everything
- 1:44Speaker 2: that's going on. So we'll have to, you know, stay tuned.
- 1:48Speaker 2: But this has been you know, just depending on how
- 1:52Speaker 2: you wanted to find it, but this has been you know,
- 1:55Speaker 2: kind of normalized behavior that's been going on through the
- 1:59Speaker 2: quote unquote seas fire.
- 2:00Speaker 1: So well, and as the White House News corresponded for
- 2:03Speaker 1: Bright Bart Nick, I guess you're used to this sort
- 2:06Speaker 1: of wash rints repeat kind of thing. I off to
- 2:10Speaker 1: use phrase, and I kind of boiled it down. It
- 2:11Speaker 1: seems to me like I'm reading it almost every day.
- 2:13Speaker 1: The United States says, but iruning officials deny fill in
- 2:17Speaker 1: the subject matter. Do we even know who we're negotiating with?
- 2:20Speaker 1: Over there is part of the problem with an effective
- 2:22Speaker 1: negotiation that we can't really effectively deal with the irunning
- 2:25Speaker 1: officials because they're all hiding out in bunkers somewhere because
- 2:28Speaker 1: they're afraid they're gonna get blown up like somebody that
- 2:30Speaker 1: preceded them. I guess I'm really wondering where this is going.
- 2:33Speaker 1: And a lot of people suggesting that Donald Trump is
- 2:36Speaker 1: willing to sort of capitulate on some of the key
- 2:39Speaker 1: elements he was demanding in order to get the straight
- 2:40Speaker 1: of horror moves back open and take the pain out
- 2:43Speaker 1: of the world's economy.
- 2:46Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's some great points there. I think
- 2:49Speaker 2: a key part of this, you know, I think they
- 2:54Speaker 2: want to keep the or get the straight open and
- 2:57Speaker 2: keep the straight open. And you know, I know the
- 3:01Speaker 2: President has been adamant about no tolls being charged in
- 3:05Speaker 2: the straight, and I know, in terms of negotiations and
- 3:08Speaker 2: who we're negotiating with, I think, for one, the communications
- 3:12Speaker 2: are seriously fragmented among the Iranians and the IRGC, so
- 3:18Speaker 2: you know, and there was reporting over the weekend. Of course,
- 3:22Speaker 2: you know, you had the President of Iran come out
- 3:24Speaker 2: and say, you know, say that they're determined to show
- 3:27Speaker 2: the world that they don't want to pursue nuclear ambitions anymore.
- 3:32Speaker 2: And also you have reporting from CBS DO senior White
- 3:36Speaker 2: House correspondent Jennifer Jacobs that the current Supreme Leader, Mochtaba
- 3:42Speaker 2: Kameni allegedly or apparently reportedly signed off for greenlit. You know,
- 3:48Speaker 2: this framework of a deal that was proposed over the weekend.
- 3:51Speaker 2: So it you know, war is messy, and of course
- 3:55Speaker 2: this is a messy war, and it's a you know,
- 3:59Speaker 2: negotiations I'm sure aren't going to be perfect here at
- 4:02Speaker 2: the end, and everything's still very fluid. But I think
- 4:05Speaker 2: the fact that you're dealing with Kameny, you're dealing with
- 4:09Speaker 2: you know, the president of Iran, and of course you
- 4:13Speaker 2: know the reporting from Jacobs too, there is that well
- 4:16Speaker 2: Comeny greenlited. It still needs to make its way through
- 4:19Speaker 2: Iranian leadership. But I think, you know, President Trump is
- 4:24Speaker 2: going at this very optimistically. I know he's an optimistic guy,
- 4:27Speaker 2: and he thinks, you know, he's confident he can strike
- 4:30Speaker 2: a deal here. But and I'm sure he's been, you know,
- 4:34Speaker 2: rather frustrated, and you've seen him get rather frustrated and
- 4:37Speaker 2: openly talk about how you know, Iran says one thing
- 4:42Speaker 2: behind the scenes and then publicly they're doing a different thing.
- 4:45Speaker 2: So yeah, again, we'll just have to see how this
- 4:48Speaker 2: all plays out here and whether or not they can
- 4:51Speaker 2: come to a deal. Yeah, in this week or in
- 4:55Speaker 2: the near future.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Obviously, the problem is getting ships to the Straight of
- 4:58Speaker 1: Horn moves, and the Iranians were called, I guess planning
- 5:00Speaker 1: more minds the other day. It's some of the targets
- 5:02Speaker 1: that we just we bombed yesterday. Therein lies a challenge,
- 5:06Speaker 1: It's been my observation, and no military planner, am I.
- 5:09Speaker 1: But if you could open the Straight of Horror moves
- 5:12Speaker 1: using the United States military might or whatever mechanism you
- 5:16Speaker 1: might need, don't you think they would have gone down
- 5:18Speaker 1: that road already? The challenge seems to be that the Iranians,
- 5:21Speaker 1: as demonstrated by the fact that we just bombed a
- 5:23Speaker 1: whole bunch of more missile sites and boats yesterday. They
- 5:26Speaker 1: have a lot of missiles and boats and drones, and
- 5:30Speaker 1: they are capable of in a very small stretch of
- 5:33Speaker 1: sea to effectively bomb any boats or US military hardware
- 5:37Speaker 1: that goes through it. If they couldn't do that, don't
- 5:39Speaker 1: you think we would have tried to open the straight
- 5:41Speaker 1: of horror moves along those lines by now?
- 5:44Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I know I agree with that, and I
- 5:47Speaker 2: think that's the key part of the negotiation here in
- 5:49Speaker 2: one of the red lines and one of the sticking
- 5:51Speaker 2: points to you know, getting a deal across the finish
- 5:53Speaker 2: line is Iran has to come along in good faith
- 5:56Speaker 2: and stop this stuff to open the straight right because
- 6:00Speaker 2: you know, these boats aren't going to want to go
- 6:02Speaker 2: through these these massive tankers and servers and whatnot, especially
- 6:06Speaker 2: when you have minds being laid and you know, I know,
- 6:10Speaker 2: part of the problem even the President was saying probably
- 6:13Speaker 2: you know a few weeks back, was that, you know what,
- 6:16Speaker 2: they don't even know where they've dropped some of these
- 6:18Speaker 2: mines right right, So these are all these are all
- 6:21Speaker 2: you know, major problems, you know, in terms of getting
- 6:24Speaker 2: a deal across the finish line. But it remains to
- 6:27Speaker 2: be yees seen, if Iran will actually come around and
- 6:31Speaker 2: sign on.
- 6:31Speaker 1: To this massive clean up effort that one I think
- 6:34Speaker 1: and I could. I think I'm safe. So they're probably
- 6:36Speaker 1: still experiencing land mines that were planted in Vietnam, you
- 6:39Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's tough to get rid of
- 6:41Speaker 1: them once they're hidden. Uh and planet Well, the other
- 6:44Speaker 1: component of this is it looks it sounds to me
- 6:46Speaker 1: like we may be losing some of the support of
- 6:48Speaker 1: our our Middle Eastern friends like the Saudi Arabians because
- 6:52Speaker 1: of the missiles, and if Ron is able to keep
- 6:54Speaker 1: any or all of them, they will continue to represent
- 6:57Speaker 1: a threat to their neighbors. This the de selling plants
- 7:00Speaker 1: are the real big problem right now. I mean, without
- 7:03Speaker 1: these salination plants in Saudi Arabia, the people will have
- 7:06Speaker 1: no water and that would be a horrific humanitarian crisis.
- 7:10Speaker 1: The Iranians don't care about humanitarian issues, absolutely.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Yeah. If they if they were to start going after
- 7:16Speaker 2: these de cell plants or just civilian infrastructure, right yeah,
- 7:20Speaker 2: you create major major humanitarian issues, especially you know, it's
- 7:24Speaker 2: essentially the desert over there, right, So if you if
- 7:26Speaker 2: you take out some of these key core infrastructure that
- 7:30Speaker 2: you know, sustain human life out there every day, those
- 7:33Speaker 2: are major problems. But I think that you know, that
- 7:37Speaker 2: gives these Middle Eastern partners incentives obviously to do everything
- 7:41Speaker 2: that they can to try and to try and get
- 7:43Speaker 2: this over with and across the finish line, and that
- 7:46Speaker 2: of course that's easier said than done. Of course, with
- 7:48Speaker 2: all those examples we just laid out, whether it be
- 7:51Speaker 2: the mines or you know, these the threat of Iran,
- 7:55Speaker 2: you know, apparently having maybe some more capabilities than was
- 8:01Speaker 2: initially thought here as well. So yeah, it remains to
- 8:05Speaker 2: be seen. But I think the other day, you know too,
- 8:09Speaker 2: I think yesterday it was pretty interesting to me that
- 8:12Speaker 2: the President like it. We don't know exactly what's going
- 8:15Speaker 2: on behind the scenes in terms of these negotiations. We
- 8:18Speaker 2: know some things. We know that the President thinks that
- 8:21Speaker 2: the framework of a deal has largely been agreed to,
- 8:23Speaker 2: at least he said on Saturday, and yesterday he came
- 8:27Speaker 2: out and he was pushing for you know, all these
- 8:30Speaker 2: Middle Eastern partners to actually join in the Abraham Accords.
- 8:33Speaker 2: And I think one thing to me that that might
- 8:38Speaker 2: tell me behind the scenes is that he's a lot
- 8:41Speaker 2: You know, he's pretty close to a deal if he
- 8:43Speaker 2: is focusing on this aspect, right rather than kind of
- 8:47Speaker 2: using using the stick on a RAN to try and
- 8:49Speaker 2: get a RAN. You know, the fact that the focus
- 8:53Speaker 2: has moved a bit to now, Okay, Well, I want
- 8:56Speaker 2: these countries to join the Abraham Accords as part of
- 8:58Speaker 2: a deal. I think is a good indicator and a
- 9:03Speaker 2: positive sign is listen.
- 9:05Speaker 1: I'll take it all day long. And I thought one
- 9:06Speaker 1: of the greatest things that Trump did in his first
- 9:08Speaker 1: administration was the Abraham Accords, and he should have netted
- 9:10Speaker 1: him a Nobel Peace Prize because he got Arab countries
- 9:13Speaker 1: to play nice and acknowledge a relationship with Israel. Are
- 9:17Speaker 1: the other Arab nations ready to do that? I don't
- 9:21Speaker 1: really think the Iranian sponsors of all the terrorist organizations
- 9:24Speaker 1: and that are constantly going after the Israelis in an
- 9:28Speaker 1: effort to wipe them off the face of the earth.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Iran is never going to consent to it. Abraham a
- 9:33Speaker 1: tour Accord like agreement that acknowledges Israel. Are they?
- 9:38Speaker 2: I Thinkran is much like Leslie, but I'm more so
- 9:41Speaker 2: talking about like the countries like Tatar Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt,
- 9:47Speaker 2: you know, these Middle Eastern partners that you know are
- 9:50Speaker 2: part of the modern world and allies with the United States,
- 9:53Speaker 2: but not necessarily involved with the Abraham Accords, like say
- 9:57Speaker 2: to the UAE or Bahrain. But you know, and the
- 10:00Speaker 2: fact that the presidents put like has shifted his focus
- 10:03Speaker 2: to these countries, specifically trying to get them on board,
- 10:07Speaker 2: you know, signals to me potentially that he's pretty confident
- 10:12Speaker 2: in where things stand in a peace deal with Iran.
- 10:15Speaker 2: He also did mention, you know, the possibility of bringing
- 10:18Speaker 2: Iran in. I don't know, like you just said, how
- 10:21Speaker 2: likely that is, especially given you know the culture of
- 10:24Speaker 2: Iran over the past fifty years, and you know, especially
- 10:30Speaker 2: where this is a theocracy right that hates the United
- 10:33Speaker 2: States of America inherently, you know, to the very core
- 10:37Speaker 2: of its bones. But you know, it's interesting and I
- 10:41Speaker 2: do think in a way too, Brian, because I did
- 10:44Speaker 2: ask the President about this a few weeks ago, just
- 10:47Speaker 2: you know, to see where he kind of views things.
- 10:50Speaker 2: I asked him if, like in the endgame here, if
- 10:53Speaker 2: he envisions in Iran, And again this goes to you know,
- 10:57Speaker 2: I Ran would have to want to sign on to
- 10:59Speaker 2: be part of the modern world here and join the
- 11:03Speaker 2: you know, the global economy. But I did ask the
- 11:05Speaker 2: President if, in you know, his endgame, he envisions a
- 11:09Speaker 2: future in which like US energy companies are operating inside
- 11:13Speaker 2: of Iran much like Venezuela, and he did tell me
- 11:15Speaker 2: could be. So I think in his mind potentially that
- 11:19Speaker 2: that is where you know, things could be going, or
- 11:22Speaker 2: he would like to see things go in a perfect world.
- 11:24Speaker 2: And that kind of tracks with what he was saying
- 11:27Speaker 2: yesterday about potentially you know, bringing our Ran into the
- 11:31Speaker 2: Abraham Accords. Now there's of course, what you know, the
- 11:34Speaker 2: future he envisions and the future that we're actually going
- 11:37Speaker 2: to get, and we'll see if you know they are
- 11:41Speaker 2: you know, work in concert and jive here down the line.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Well, what's your take on Donald Trump, because of course
- 11:47Speaker 1: it seems to be largely in his hands what we
- 11:49Speaker 1: end up agreeing on or not agreeing on. As the
- 11:51Speaker 1: case maybe and as the current quote unquote agreement stands,
- 11:54Speaker 1: as as far as the details have been leaked, we
- 11:56Speaker 1: maybe really you know, give them some financial relief lifts
- 12:00Speaker 1: of the sanctions will stop the blockade. They're going to
- 12:03Speaker 1: open up the straight the Iranians will, and then the
- 12:06Speaker 1: nuclear discussions will just continue in an ongoing negotiation discussions,
- 12:10Speaker 1: maybe sixty days or more. It seems to me that
- 12:13Speaker 1: Iran is painfully where of Donald Trump's political precarious situation
- 12:17Speaker 1: as we go fast into November. It's not a popular war.
- 12:19Speaker 1: People are dealing with the economic challenges brought about by it.
- 12:22Speaker 1: He has a huge incentive to back down on his
- 12:25Speaker 1: line in the sand demands. But would Donald Trump do that?
- 12:28Speaker 1: And if you think he wouldn't, then isn't the next
- 12:31Speaker 1: move then escalation, which carries with it its own political
- 12:35Speaker 1: challenges and amazing obligation on the part of the American
- 12:38Speaker 1: military to have to basically put boots on the ground
- 12:42Speaker 1: and get in there and get our own uranium out
- 12:44Speaker 1: of there. And it just the extent of the war
- 12:46Speaker 1: and how long that would take and the cost of lives,
- 12:48Speaker 1: it can't be understated. But what do you think about
- 12:51Speaker 1: Donald Trump and his perception of his options right now?
- 12:55Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, look, I think if the President was worried,
- 12:59Speaker 2: you know, politically about about these things, he would probably
- 13:02Speaker 2: have waited until after midterms to go ahead and do this.
- 13:06Speaker 2: I think he went ahead and did it before mid
- 13:08Speaker 2: terms because he's not necessarily you know, as as concerned,
- 13:12Speaker 2: and you know, obviously there's going to probably be some
- 13:16Speaker 2: major implications midterms here, especially with the results of gas
- 13:20Speaker 2: prices that Americans you know, are paying higher gas prices
- 13:23Speaker 2: as a result of this war, you know, significantly higher
- 13:27Speaker 2: than they're paying a few months ago. But I think
- 13:31Speaker 2: in his mind, you know, I don't know how much
- 13:35Speaker 2: you know, the threat of losing the House or Congress
- 13:38Speaker 2: or something like that in November is factoring into you know,
- 13:43Speaker 2: him trying to put push a deal across the finish line.
- 13:45Speaker 2: Maybe it is, you know, it absolutely could be. It
- 13:48Speaker 2: would definitely behoove him and behoove Republicans to get a
- 13:52Speaker 2: deal done and across the finish line. But do I
- 13:55Speaker 2: don't necessarily think he's gonna you know, capitulate and and
- 13:58Speaker 2: and you know, back on his red lines that you know,
- 14:02Speaker 2: he's repeatedly you know, put forward, uh, you know, since
- 14:07Speaker 2: the beginning of this war. I right, you know, destroy
- 14:11Speaker 2: Iran's navy, take out their missile capabilities, and sure they
- 14:14Speaker 2: can't have a nuclear weapon, and you know, ensure that
- 14:18Speaker 2: they can't fund their proxies anymore. So you know, I
- 14:22Speaker 2: think if you potentially you know, the possibility of putting
- 14:26Speaker 2: the nuclear or punting rather the nuclear talks down the line,
- 14:31Speaker 2: you know, we'll we'll have to see exactly how that
- 14:33Speaker 2: works out. But I know the President has said the
- 14:36Speaker 2: United States and China are the only countries that could
- 14:38Speaker 2: actually feasibly go in and take this nuclear material out.
- 14:42Speaker 2: And I'm curious if you know, there's potentially a world maybe,
- 14:46Speaker 2: uh you know, where one of those countries goes in
- 14:50Speaker 2: and can actually you know, take out this enriched uranium
- 14:54Speaker 2: that's at four Donatons and s Fahan. But again, you know,
- 14:57Speaker 2: we'll have to see. But yeah, I think, I you know,
- 15:03Speaker 2: it's interesting to me, you know how much politics is
- 15:06Speaker 2: actually playing into oh yeah, you know the President's steelmaking
- 15:09Speaker 2: right now?
- 15:10Speaker 1: For sure, Brian, without question, it sounds to me swirling
- 15:13Speaker 1: aim at all this. The only solution ultimately is a
- 15:15Speaker 1: regime change with an administration over in Iran that is
- 15:18Speaker 1: willing to give up these outrageous goals that they're trying
- 15:23Speaker 1: to like achieve, for example, getting a nuclear bomb in
- 15:25Speaker 1: return for peace and better economic realities for them, happiness
- 15:30Speaker 1: for their people, there's a lot of good reasons to
- 15:32Speaker 1: want to do that, but it sounds like regime change
- 15:34Speaker 1: is all going to come around with the protracted, long,
- 15:36Speaker 1: boots on the ground type of war, and I don't
- 15:38Speaker 1: think the American public has the appetite for that, Honestly, No, I.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Don't think the American public has any appetite for that.
- 15:46Speaker 2: I think too, I think, you know, if the President
- 15:49Speaker 2: was to put boots on the ground, I wouldn't be
- 15:51Speaker 2: surprised to immediately see him begin losing support among mega
- 15:55Speaker 2: specifically and among Republicans, especially after everything that's gone, you know,
- 16:00Speaker 2: went down in the in the world that's we've lived
- 16:03Speaker 2: in for the past twenty years, with these forever wars
- 16:06Speaker 2: that we went through in Iraq and Afghanistan. You know, Yeah, No,
- 16:11Speaker 2: I think I think that's and I think that's the
- 16:13Speaker 2: last thing the president wants to do, right I think
- 16:16Speaker 2: the last thing he wants to do is put boots
- 16:17Speaker 2: on the ground. You know, I think he obviously he
- 16:21Speaker 2: operates with all options on the table, but I you know,
- 16:26Speaker 2: he hasn't done it yet, and I think there's been,
- 16:28Speaker 2: you know, opportunities where he definitely could have done it,
- 16:31Speaker 2: and you know, there were times when he was I
- 16:34Speaker 2: think probably weighing it. I think at one point in
- 16:38Speaker 2: you know, late March, there was you know, I think
- 16:40Speaker 2: fifteen hundred marines on their way over to the Middle East, right,
- 16:44Speaker 2: And so there were moments throughout where he could have
- 16:48Speaker 2: put on the ground he didn't. I think it's the
- 16:50Speaker 2: last thing he wants to do. That being said, he
- 16:52Speaker 2: does keep all options on the table. But I do
- 16:55Speaker 2: think if you know, something happens there that would be
- 16:59Speaker 2: very you know, not great for him politically and certainly
- 17:02Speaker 2: among the.
- 17:03Speaker 1: Base since he did campaign on No More Forever Wars.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Breitbart News, White House corresponding Nick gilbertson great analysis from
- 17:09Speaker 1: you today. I appreciate what you're doing over at Breitbart
- 17:11Speaker 1: each and every day. Keep up the great work, and
- 17:13Speaker 1: we'll do another insight scoop next Tuesday. We'll talk again
- 17:16Speaker 1: real soon, Nick, Thanks. Brian had to blast you do
- 17:19Speaker 1: the same A twenty three right now if you five
- 17:21Speaker 1: k see the talk station. Daniel Davis Deep Di