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106.2: Beating Kids with a Purpose · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Fucking shit fuck you fuck you fuck you.
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  Speaker 2: and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 3: It's showtime, folks. Enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, John Amplis, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown, the
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  Speaker 5: It's time for Sofa Theater.
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  Speaker 3: Sofa Theater. Hey, can I get another drink down here?
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  Speaker 3: I've been to prison once. I've been married twice.
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  Speaker 6: I was once drafted by Lyndon Johnson and had to
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  Speaker 6: live in shit-ass Mexico for two and a half years
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  Speaker 6: for no reason. I've had my eye socket punched in,
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  Speaker 6: a kidney taken out, and I got a bone chip
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  Speaker 6: in my ankle that's never gonna heal. I've seen some
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  Speaker 6: pretty shitty situations in my life, but nothing has ever
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  Speaker 6: sucked more ass than this. If I'd known I was
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  Speaker 6: going to have to put up with a bunch of
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  Speaker 6: screaming brats pissing on my lap for 30 days out
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  Speaker 6: of the year, I would have killed myself a long
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  Speaker 6: time ago. Come to think of it, I still might.
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  Speaker 6: Where I come from, we didn't celebrate Christmas. Not because
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  Speaker 6: we were Jewish, but because my dad was a worthless,
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  Speaker 6: coward fucking asshole whose idea of a present was a
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  Speaker 6: daily punch to the back of the head. He did
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  Speaker 6: teach me how to crack a safe, though. My dad
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  Speaker 6: never did shit with his life, so he took it
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  Speaker 6: out on me. You could say I'm no different, and
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  Speaker 6: I'd have to say you were right. But at this point,
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  Speaker 6: it's too late to start over. Funny how things work out.
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  Speaker 6: It's fucking hilarious.
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  Speaker 7: Please, daddy, don't get drunk this Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to see my mama cry. Please, Daddy,
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  Speaker 2: don't get drunk this Christmas. I don't want to see
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  Speaker 2: my mama cry.
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  Speaker 8: Welcome to Movie Meltdown Sofa Theater. Once again, I am Brian.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Greg.
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  Speaker 9: I'm Marlene.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm... Oh, Lord. Welcome back to Movie Meltdown's Fuck
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  Speaker 2: Me Santa Holiday Special. It seems quite fitting this week. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: not only is it, you know, that special holiday special,
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  Speaker 2: but this is also our third annual holiday special.
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  Speaker 3: Third annual?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Congratulations.
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  Speaker 8: As of this week, it is our anniversary.
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  Speaker 3: Yay.
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  Speaker 2: Crossing over into the third year here. Whether we live
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  Speaker 2: to see the fourth is.
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  Speaker 2: Yet to be seen.
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  Speaker 10: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Fallen time for the four. And for you listening at home,
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  Speaker 3: it's cold in here.
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  Speaker 2: It's ridiculously cold.
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  Speaker 10: That's why.
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  Speaker 2: Losing feeling in my feet cold.
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  Speaker 11: Right.
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  Speaker 10: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I did forget before because we had too many other snacks.
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  Speaker 3: We have more snacks. More snacks.
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  Speaker 11: Yay.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to roast the dog. Oh, that's right. Uh-oh,
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  Speaker 3: has this got chocolate in it, too?
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  Speaker 12: Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 3: I see icing and candy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna get those stupid little sprinkle cookies,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm like, does anybody even like those?
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  Speaker 3: No. If this tree attacks me, I'm gonna be upset.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see. So, yeah, I figured we'd celebrate Christmas the
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  Speaker 2: trashiest way possible with snack cakes.
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  Speaker 10: I almost got these.
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  Speaker 8: This is what Ghetto Kid had for Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: Are these, uh... What brand are these?
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  Speaker 2: Little Debbie.
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  Speaker 3: Little Debbie?
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  Speaker 2: If I were plugging them, yes. Sorry.
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  Speaker 3: You can delete that.
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  Speaker 2: We have no heat, Little Debbie. For God's sakes, give
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  Speaker 2: us money. Is it too much to ask to have
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  Speaker 2: some fucking heat?
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  Speaker 3: Again, calories are a measure of heat.
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  Speaker 2: That's our plan.
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  Speaker 9: I'm ready to go to talk about this movie.
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  Speaker 10: So I can sit in my warm car.
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  Speaker 3: Can we record from the car this episode? Can we
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  Speaker 3: just drive around?
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  Speaker 9: I'll drive around.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do that. This is what it's come to.
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  Speaker 10: So, this movie. Directed by Terry Zweigoff. Love Terry Zweigoff.
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  Speaker 10: Director of one of my favorite movies of all time.
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  Speaker 9: Ghost World. Number one favorite movie.
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  Speaker 3: He wrote Ghost World too, didn't he?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a comic. First, wasn't it? I think
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  Speaker 2: he adapted it.
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  Speaker 10: He and.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm sure he wrote the screenplay because he re-adapted
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  Speaker 2: this screenplay as well. So just to get into it,
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  Speaker 2: this week's Sober Theater feature is Bad Santa. And technically
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  Speaker 2: it's Badder Santa, if that helps you. And if you
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  Speaker 2: want to keep up with us exactly, it's technically the
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  Speaker 2: Badder Santa version.
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  Speaker 9: There was like an extra scene.
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  Speaker 2: There was a lot of extra.
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  Speaker 9: No, not really. I mean, not from the version I saw.
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  Speaker 8: I think a good portion of it is cursing.
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  Speaker 2: I got the breakdown of the number of curses in
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  Speaker 2: the regular version and in the badder version.
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  Speaker 10: Well, you know the numbers, so I can't argue with that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just, yeah, it's ridiculous, the astronomical number of cursings.
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  Speaker 10: Can I just say, like, I'm strangely attracted to Billy
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  Speaker 10: Bob Thornton?
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  Speaker 2: Can I just say that doesn't surprise me?
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  Speaker 10: Right.
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  Speaker 8: The year is 2003. Director Terry Zweigoff, as you mentioned.
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  Speaker 2: The plot, according to IMDb, a miserable con man and
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  Speaker 2: his partner poses Santa and his little helper to rob
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  Speaker 2: department stores on Christmas Eve, but they run into problems
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  Speaker 2: when the con man befriends a troubled kid and the
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  Speaker 2: security boss discovers the plot.
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  Speaker 8: That's somewhat accurate.
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  Speaker 3: For IMDb, that's pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who wrote it, but it's not terrible.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so giant spoiler alert. If you haven't had
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  Speaker 2: your holiday ruined by this movie already, we are about
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  Speaker 2: to ruin it as well. Aside from your affection for
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  Speaker 2: Billy Bob, is that where you would like to begin?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I love this movie. Thurman and Merman, come on.
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  Speaker 10: It's brilliant. It's hilarious. It changed my outlook on Christmas.
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  Speaker 8: It actually fits right in with my outlook on Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: Except you're not drinking yourself.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Is that the next step?
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  Speaker 2: Probably not. I can't afford booze.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's true. It is expensive.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 2: I could go roll a hobo and take his.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, you can get some Mad Dog for like
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  Speaker 9: a buck.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, you know, Mad Dog's pretty high class.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 9: But, no, I love this movie. I think it's hilarious.
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  Speaker 10: It's brilliant.
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  Speaker 9: That's about all I can think of.
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  Speaker 3: It certainly isn't uplifting.
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  Speaker 8: Isn't it, though?
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  Speaker 10: No.
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  Speaker 11: No.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I do like the character arc. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he does... I think the most... The key point in
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  Speaker 3: the movie is when he's sitting in the locker room.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And, again, this spoiler alert, you know, he... I guess
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  Speaker 3: the story is these con men are posing as Santa
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  Speaker 3: Claus and the elf, and they're stealing everything on Christmas
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  Speaker 3: Eve from the department stores. But the aforementioned little boy
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  Speaker 3: that he befriends, who is, we can probably get into
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  Speaker 3: more of him later, but he's the typical kid that's
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  Speaker 3: being beaten up, has many, many problems. But he defends
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  Speaker 3: the boy by going and beating up the bullies that
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  Speaker 3: have beaten him up and which that scene of him
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  Speaker 3: beating up the kid is fantastic but the best part
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  Speaker 3: of the movie the moment you're like oh this is
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  Speaker 3: more than just a crass movie or being someone when
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  Speaker 3: he says you know I really think I'm coming around
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  Speaker 3: you know I think I've turned a corner.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah you fucking petite now no I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Not talking about that I beat the shit out of
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  Speaker 1: some kids today but it's for a purpose Made me
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  Speaker 1: feel good about myself. It was like I did something
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  Speaker 1: constructive with my life or something, I don't know. Like
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  Speaker 1: I accomplished something.
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  Speaker 3: You need many years of therapy.
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  Speaker 8: I think I've turned a corner today.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've turned a corner today. I did something with
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  Speaker 3: a purpose. I beat up some kids, and there was
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  Speaker 3: a reason. I think that's the key. To me, that's
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  Speaker 3: about the best moment of the movie. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 3: many good moments, but that's the one that's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I see now where this is going. That's the point
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  Speaker 3: we're going for. He's changing, and still bad Santa.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely.
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  Speaker 10: But, I mean, he's not a rebel without a cause.
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  Speaker 10: He's a rebel with a cause from that point on.
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  Speaker 11: Right.
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  Speaker 10: What I don't understand is how Mrs. Did she ever
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  Speaker 10: actually have a name?
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  Speaker 2: Mrs. Claus' sister.
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  Speaker 3: Mrs.
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  Speaker 2: Claus.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I realize that. Like, most people in this barely
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  Speaker 10: have a name.
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  Speaker 3: Grandma.
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  Speaker 2: Grandma kid thurman merman that yep but he was kid
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  Speaker 2: through most of the right he's the exception of that
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  Speaker 2: one mention he's the kid.
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  Speaker 10: Right but uh you know she meets him in the
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  Speaker 10: bar that she's bartending in And she's like, I like you.
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  Speaker 9: And I'm just like, why? Why do you like this guy?
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  Speaker 10: Other than your creepy fetish for guys in Santa Claus outfits.
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  Speaker 3: She clearly has some issues.
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  Speaker 10: Clearly, I guess, but I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this is back to my point I was going
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  Speaker 2: to get to earlier that I said I would return to,
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  Speaker 2: which is in response to your where's mine. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm slightly less horrible than Billy Bob in this movie.
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  Speaker 8: Where's my Lauren Graham? That's all I want to know.
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  Speaker 3: No kidding.
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  Speaker 2: Where's my ridiculously devoted, for no good fucking reason, completely,
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  Speaker 2: utterly in love with this guy, and I don't understand why,
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  Speaker 2: but blindly follows him.
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  Speaker 9: And see, like.
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  Speaker 10: if you know me i i can relate to her
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  Speaker 10: better than most people at this table probably i can
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  Speaker 10: relate to that but i mean even me i'm just
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  Speaker 10: like what the fuck is wrong with you why run
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  Speaker 10: run in the opposite direction i mean i guess it
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  Speaker 10: worked out she got a jacuzzi and.
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  Speaker 3: Shit man but you know she got a kid and a.
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  Speaker 10: Kid and she loved kids and the part where she's
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  Speaker 10: like do you like kids i'm like.
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  Speaker 2: Why do you want to know? Do you want to
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  Speaker 2: have kids with this guy?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, she does.
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  Speaker 11: Yikes.
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  Speaker 8: That's what I think.
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  Speaker 2: If there's anything that seems a little off, it is that.
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  Speaker 2: It's just her character. And don't get me wrong, I
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  Speaker 2: love Lauren Graham in odd ways. But I just.
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  Speaker 3: In dirty ways.
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  Speaker 2: No, she's almost too awesome for that. She's too cool.
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  Speaker 3: Do you like the cold, Lauren? Perhaps.
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  Speaker 10: Do you?
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  Speaker 8: I would definitely wear a Santa Claus hat for her.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd be like Santa and Jacuzzi. Do you like
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  Speaker 3: the cold?
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  Speaker 2: It would be a lot of snuggling involved.
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  Speaker 11: Anyway.
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  Speaker 9: Come up to my North Pole.
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  Speaker 2: You said that one.
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  Speaker 8: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I did. But here's the thing. Everybody else, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: get to the rest of them later, but she's the
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  Speaker 2: one that just doesn't fit almost.
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  Speaker 8: Like, in a way, she doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Makes sense. Because she should be... To be as messed
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  Speaker 2: up as she is to be hooking up with him,
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  Speaker 2: she should be way more screwed up.
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  Speaker 11: Right.
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  Speaker 8: Like, seemingly.
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  Speaker 2: And really, I mean, there's nothing. With the exception of
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  Speaker 2: her screwing him, there's nothing else about her.
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  Speaker 11: No.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, she's... Well, I mean, no, she's messed up.
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  Speaker 2: I get that. I mean, she's definitely... She's attracted him
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  Speaker 2: for no good reason. She's also an enabler because she
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  Speaker 2: keeps buying him booze. She keeps showing up with more booze.
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  Speaker 2: So she's not fixing the problem in any way, shape,
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  Speaker 2: or form.
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  Speaker 10: Here's the thing about people like that, women who are,
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  Speaker 10: or people in general who are like enablers or deal
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  Speaker 10: with alcoholics on a regular basis.
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  Speaker 9: You can be.
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  Speaker 10: Relatively normal and a relatively sweet, nice person and fall
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  Speaker 10: into that. I've known lots of people that are like that.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, that's what's wrong with you. That's the extent
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  Speaker 10: of what's wrong with you.
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  Speaker 2: Usually the alcoholic in question does a little better job.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, once you get to the advanced stages of
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  Speaker 2: alcoholism that he's reached by the end of this movie,
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  Speaker 2: he should be hooking up with meth whores at best.
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  Speaker 2: There's no way this normal girl who has a real
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  Speaker 2: job and loves kids and is just well-adjusted in every
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  Speaker 2: other way other than she wants to fuck him Should
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  Speaker 2: be hooking up with that guy. Granted, she's got her
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  Speaker 2: mental issues. I understand that.
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  Speaker 3: If she's that fucked up, she shouldn't look so well
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  Speaker 3: put together.
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  Speaker 8: No, she should not be. And really, I mean, just
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  Speaker 8: in general. Why the hell is she working at that bar?
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  Speaker 2: Right. Well, just because any bar that would be frequented
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  Speaker 2: by that guy, she should be in a way more
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  Speaker 2: ghetto bar than that.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Again, it should be the type of person he wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be hooking up with at this point.
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  Speaker 3: She should look more like Cloris Leachman's.
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  Speaker 2: Character than Lauren Graham. At this point, yes.
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  Speaker 3: But you've got to sell a movie, so.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't know. I think that was
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  Speaker 2: the one thing that just felt a little thrown in
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  Speaker 2: because they needed a romantic angle. Because they had this
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  Speaker 2: weird idea of wouldn't it be funny if there was
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  Speaker 2: a chick with a Santa fetish. And they worked that
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  Speaker 2: idea in there and then didn't really round her character
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  Speaker 2: out in any way. Which is weird because everybody else
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  Speaker 2: is pretty amazingly well-rounded. More than you would expect in
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  Speaker 2: a movie like this.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah. Well, see, you know, I'm going to have to
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  Speaker 10: disagree with you there, though, just because, like, I know
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  Speaker 10: a lot of people like that. And I've, like, been
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  Speaker 10: pretty close to being a person like that myself. Like,
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  Speaker 10: well-adjusted women who are totally normal in all other aspects.
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  Speaker 10: go for that it's like a weird mothering thing that
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  Speaker 10: i mean like there are people exactly like that and
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  Speaker 10: her character was spot on.
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  Speaker 2: So obviously i'm not preying on the right level of
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  Speaker 2: depraved women.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: You need to up your game a little bit you
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: need to shoot aim.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Higher actually aim lower get rid of all your morals
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  Speaker 2: and uh throw that shit out the window and go
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  Speaker 2: start hitting the bars.
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  Speaker 3: I have there there have been many times in my
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  Speaker 3: life now let you say that really that i've like
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  Speaker 3: What the fuck does she see in that guy?
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  Speaker 2: I think that a lot. But these are pretty polar opposites,
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  Speaker 2: which I'm not saying it doesn't ever happen.
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  Speaker 8: I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, that's a pretty common type, though.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, like, I'm serious. It's like if you've ever
• 15:11
  Speaker 10: been to an Al-Anon meeting, it's always like the sweetest,
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  Speaker 10: otherwise well-adjusted people with, like, good heads on their shoulders,
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  Speaker 10: good jobs. who just fall into taking care of these, like,
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  Speaker 10: pathetic people. And, you know, it's like, you can understand
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  Speaker 10: it if it happens, like, at a certain stage. But,
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  Speaker 10: I mean, like, you know, like, my best friend's mom is, like,
• 15:31
  Speaker 10: you know, she's the person I go to for motherly advice.
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  Speaker 10: A very intelligent, like, well-read woman. And, you know, she's
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  Speaker 10: that type of person, you know.
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  Speaker 2: She fell into that same trap.
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  Speaker 10: Not like she's, like, a smoking hot babe now, like
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  Speaker 10: Lauren Graham.
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  Speaker 8: Well, she's a mom type now.
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  Speaker 10: She was in her day.
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  Speaker 2: She was in her day.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, but, uh.
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  Speaker 10: You know, that's just the type. That's how people are. Like, beautiful, normal,
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  Speaker 10: well-adjusted women.
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  Speaker 11: Love.
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  Speaker 9: Fucked up.
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  Speaker 12: Retards.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously.
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  Speaker 3: What I think she's saying, Brian, is you need a
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  Speaker 3: drinking problem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you need a drinking problem. Gee, because everything else
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  Speaker 2: has been going so great up to now. How about
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  Speaker 2: if I top it off as a ridiculous drinking problem?
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  Speaker 10: But, I mean, just, I mean, I know women who
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  Speaker 10: are like that. So, I just, I think her character
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  Speaker 10: is spot on. That's actually, like, that's.
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  Speaker 2: How it is yeah i mean there are cases it
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  Speaker 2: could be like that she's just so blind to everything
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  Speaker 2: like the fact that she doesn't question why are you
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: living in a house with a little kid and a
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: crazy old comatose lady yeah she just goes along with
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: everything and he's not that good of a con man
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: is the problem no i mean.
• 16:37
  Speaker 10: I definitely like want to shake her and be like
• 16:39
  Speaker 10: what the fuck is.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Wrong with you yeah me too although I'd want to
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: give that kid a hug and make him a sandwich.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying I wouldn't hang out with the kid.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: The kid's awesome. And he's not doing anything weird with
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: the kid. He's warping his brain, but he's not going
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: down the one road that they don't go down. Everything
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: else is pretty much horrible from step one. And that's
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: what I was going to say. I mean, that's like
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: you were saying it, you know, you could tell what
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: type of movie it was trying to be by that
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: far in. I, to me, it was like right off
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: the bat, like the immediate tone. And it helps that
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: it's Terry's white off because he, I, I love that guy.
• 17:15
  Speaker 8: I love everything he's done.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: And I really like his approach to things because it's
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: so anti Hollywood, if nothing else, but it's just also
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: very dark and depraved, but it's sort of unapologetic about
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: it either.
• 17:28
  Speaker 9: And that's another thing.
• 17:29
  Speaker 10: That's, You know, and you got to think about it
• 17:31
  Speaker 10: like this when it comes to like hilarious and not,
• 17:35
  Speaker 10: you know, there's like stereotypes that are in all movies,
• 17:38
  Speaker 10: you know, like your typical run of the mill movies.
• 17:41
  Speaker 10: But these are like obscure type people. You know, like,
• 17:44
  Speaker 10: think Seymour in Ghost World. He's fucking dead on. Yeah.
• 17:48
  Speaker 10: With those type of people.
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: That one, yeah.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's so close. And he really is.
• 17:51
  Speaker 10: You would just, I mean, I swear, you would just
• 17:53
  Speaker 10: have to know more people like that. He's, that character
• 17:55
  Speaker 10: is dead on.
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: No, I'm, I'm, Tam, I am that character.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not talking about Seymour.
• 18:00
  Speaker 9: I'm talking about Lauren Graham's character.
• 18:01
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 18:02
  Speaker 10: You'd just have to know more people. She really is
• 18:03
  Speaker 10: dead on. You know, the same with, in Art School Confidential, the, pretentious.
• 18:07
  Speaker 10: I know so many.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: People like that. That's another one I really love of
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: his and got no respect at all and was horribly mismarketed.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I think he is so underrated as a director. His
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: stuff isn't always perfect. It's got its little issues here
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: and there, but he's just so much more talented and
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: solid than just about anybody else working. He's just not
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: up the mainstream alley and I don't think he ever
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: will be. It's weird that I'm surprised he made this
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: because even this seems like Initially, they were going for something.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I guess not, because the Coen brothers had something to
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: do with it from day one. They came up with
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: the weird story. So all of their stuff is pretty
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: dark and twisted, too. But I don't know.
• 18:47
  Speaker 8: It just seems like it is one of those that, like,
• 18:50
  Speaker 8: what were they thinking? Who made this movie?
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: And I'm not complaining, because I think it's pretty damn
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: impressive in many, many parts of it. But what person
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: in what studio was sitting there and listened to this
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: pitch and read this script and was just like, okay...
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: People are going to love this at Christmas time.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, there is a lot of people that
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: are disenfranchised about Christmas.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: There are, but they're usually not working in a studio.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Well, no, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: is there is Christmas overload.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: And there is a market for people who, a niche
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: group of people who, Right, exactly. And this is everything
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: that you could hate, you know, from the peer pressure
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: of wanting to decorate your street to, presents. Even the
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: whole mystique of the kid knows he's not Santa Claus.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: And that reveal later on.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: But he goes along with it.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: But he's going along with it, exactly. And it's the
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: same thing with most of the world, the Christian world.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: They know Santa's not real, but they go along with
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: it because of what they get out of it. It's
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: all a lie, and we just do that to tell
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: ourselves these things. And so, well, first of all, if
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: you've got the Coen brothers that are executive producing it,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: who gives a fuck? You know, it's dark. So, you know.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that's really the only... Because, I mean, look
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: at all these other projects. Nothing really pulls in huge names.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Nothing ever makes huge box office. So, I think that's
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the reason something this weird got made. Well, I don't know.
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: I mean.
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: If you think about it, like, in terms of the storyline,
• 20:35
  Speaker 10: it's weird. But Average Man, it's just funny. I mean,
• 20:40
  Speaker 10: it's straight up funny. Funny on a level that anyone
• 20:43
  Speaker 10: can understand. Take it for what you will and read
• 20:45
  Speaker 10: into it as far as you want. But, like, it's...
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: I mean, any fucking retard watching Blue Collar Comedy Hour
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: can fucking find humor in this. I mean, I remember
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: seeing the commercials for this when it was in theaters,
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: and it was hilarious.
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: I mean, that's what drew people in.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: It's just a funny movie. That's probably how they marketed it, yeah.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: How they got anybody to come to this. But then
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: once they get there, I mean, they do people with
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: trailers all the time. So once you get into this, Yeah,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I can see people still getting laughs at him cursing
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: at a kid and hordes of kids and the other
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: god-awful things that he does in this, but there's still
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: a level where this is just so dark. For me,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: that's what I love about it, is that it doesn't
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: pull any punches, anything. It just really never pulls back
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: on anything, and that's why I think it's amazing. It's
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: like from the first scene there, when you've got your
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: lead actor... stumbling out into an alley with Chopin playing
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: in the background while he vomits in this dank alley.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty good idea of where you're going with
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: this movie. And right off the bat, it's just like,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: this is heading down a dark, depraved little alley here,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: and it never really comes back.
• 21:54
  Speaker 14: No.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: And it is, you know, when you talk about dark,
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: and I'm not saying that just because of the name,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: but it is a very film noir setup because it
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: is that almost that character, okay, this is my... I
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: want out. I want out of the system. This is
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: my last crime.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: One last time.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: One last crime. And every single... That is like this
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: standard cookie-cutter film noir. It keeps roping me back in.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I'm out, and your partner's like, oh, come on, one
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: more time. I got this. This one's going to be
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: the big score, and then you.
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: Can get out.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: It does, and it feels... Very much, it feels like
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: that setup-wise, but even the way.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: It's like when you see that big shootout in the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: store at the end, when he does that little piece
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: where he runs up towards the camera and is hiding
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: around the corner, it's taken out of freaking film noir.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Several of them, almost that exact shot is taken out
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: of old film noir.
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: So it definitely... Ties into that.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: But again, this is like a level of film noir
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: that they could not have touched back in the day.
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: It's so hopeless.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if... I mean, it would be
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: a completely different movie had the Coen brothers directed it
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Because it would have been a lot less... overtly funny
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: and and more subtly funny and i i think it
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: would have been too much of a down.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: It could have gone either way because they're so hit
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and miss it's like they're they're totally serious or they're
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: just like they throw out that one and every seven
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: years that's just zany comedy that right almost doesn't even
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: fit them anymore we get the exception of raising arizona
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: which is fucking awesome but so many of the other
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: ones i'm just like wait, what are you doing here?
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: It's almost not what, it's not their strength anymore. And
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know that, I mean, maybe they can come
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: back and do something else that's more along those lines.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it would be weird to see what they
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: would have done with this had they just handled it
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: completely on their own.
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to point something out because I
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: noticed watching it this time, and I've been, most of
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: it I've seen in the pg-ish versions like comedy central
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: versions so and i've seen parts of it right should
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: be a half an hour right Billy Bob Thornton either
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: is an unbelievably exceptional actor or he was drunk throughout
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: the entire movie.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: It was both.
• 24:11
  Speaker 11: Oh.
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: I mean, you've seen him on screen.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: That's one thing I will give everybody in this, especially
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: our two main guys here. I mean, as ridiculous as
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: some of this language is, as over the top as
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: some of the obscenities are, some of the crazy things
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: they make them say, I buy everything that comes out.
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: And I was watching it this time. Even Tony Cox.
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Sidekick, if you will, but really he's the one running
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: the whole damn show, so he's the one in charge.
• 24:36
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, I mean, both of them. Like, I don't
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: think they're weird caricatures. I think both of them really
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: seem like real characters and come off like these guys exist. And,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: you know, as fucked up as that is, that's the
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: kind of world we live in. Both of these guys
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: are out there right now. Many, many of them. And,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know, all of the characters seem like they
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: kind of, especially those two, though. I mean, they're just so...
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: dark and depraved and don't back off from any of that.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: It stays so true to that throughout the movie.
• 25:09
  Speaker 13: You are by far the dumbest or pathetic piece of
• 25:12
  Speaker 13: maggot-eating shit that has ever slid from a human being's
• 25:16
  Speaker 13: hairy ass. What if the kid has one of those
• 25:19
  Speaker 13: fucking playdates they have now?
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Are you shitting me? The kid don't have any friends, okay?
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: You don't even have an imaginary friend as a kid
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: unless you ditched him. He lives with his drooling asshole grandmother.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Since we're out in front of TV all the time.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: You think she's gonna rat me out? She opened her
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: ass on the last Tuesday.
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: You fucker.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, is everything fucking sex with you?
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: With me?
• 25:44
  Speaker 10: I fuck one person.
• 25:45
  Speaker 13: I ain't out there Syria fornicating, trying to float my liver,
• 25:48
  Speaker 13: drinking myself silly because I can't stand what a piece
• 25:50
  Speaker 13: of shit I am.
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: What are you, Sigwin Sautoff fucking Freud?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, shit for brains. Go ahead, talk about
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: my hype.
• 25:58
  Speaker 13: Make it about something safe, because you're an emotional fucking cripple.
• 26:02
  Speaker 13: Your soul is dog shit. Every single fucking thing about.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: You is ugly. And it's another one of those, there's
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: no hero whatsoever. Like, Billy Bob never really crosses that line.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: He has moments of clarity. He tries to redeem himself
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: a little bit here and there. But for the most part,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: he's still a horrible person by the end of the movie.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: It's like, it doesn't change anything he tries to come
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: around in little ways but he never really becomes the
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: hero I mean the only thing we have in this
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: movie really is the kid and even the kid's fucked
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: up there are no characters that aren't massively fucked up
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: in this movie it's a.
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: Little better at the end I think though it's a happy.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Ending it's one of those I almost I kind of
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: wish they wouldn't have gone there I really like it
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: ending at the porch and I'll leave it that way
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: but I mean if you know and that to me
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: feels like the studio might have stepped in.
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: It might have crossed that line.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Into too dark. But because you'll notice, you never see
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: him in any of the rest of that. It's nothing
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: but voiceover. And really, everything else that happens in there
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: could have taken place. Were he there or not, everything
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: else that happened could have happened regardless of what happened.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: So to me, I would almost want to see if
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: that's the way Zygoth wrote it is.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: With it ending really, really fucking dark. And the studio went, okay,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you can say fuck 170 times, but you can't take
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: it down that far at the end. You can't end
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: it on that note.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think it makes it any more dark, honestly.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: It's fucked up either way.
• 27:32
  Speaker 11: But.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: If he dies in that moment of that one good
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: act of taking the kid, the elephant.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: It almost redeems him.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: It's a redemption. Yeah. So I think it's almost... That's
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: almost the nicer Hollywood... Okay, he's done. He's no longer suffering.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: He's no longer hurting anybody. And he completed his life
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: by doing a good act.
• 27:54
  Speaker 10: So.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: In a way, I mean, it's still you could have
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: that that legacy of now the kid is fucked up
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: and trying to be like him. That's a touch of,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: you know, the kind of screw you to that ending with.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: But if you left it with him, you know, going
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: out to be taking him out at the end of
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: the movie.
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: But yeah, I see what you're saying.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: It almost does have a different dark twist because in
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: a way, he won. Completely and utterly. He got away
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: with everything. He's not doing any time. He gets the girl.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: He's with the kid who's not as fucked up as
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: he was in a way, kind of, sort of. right
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: so i mean he's at least starting to you know
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: be a real person at this point and not the
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: messed up version that he was so i mean yeah
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: in a way it's almost more scary than this way
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: because again it's more sad and messed up because there
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: is no horror attack it it was a second and
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: then it turns around and he's like he does throughout
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: the entire movie he turns around and goes right back
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: to being bad again right he's back on that same
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: train and and He's still, like, at the end of
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: the movie, he never really leaves, he never fully redeems
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: himself in any way.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Well, and the, I'm going to get off without any,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: you know, punishment, that... That's kind of cheesy.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Seems a little.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like, well, there's no way he'd get away.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: He must have had a really good lawyer.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: To get away with nothing. But again, I mean, he
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: talks about how the press got a hold of it. So,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes, shit, that happens.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, people walk away.
• 29:26
  Speaker 10: They did... pursue and shoot an unarmed Santa in the back.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: In front of children.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: In front of children.
• 29:32
  Speaker 10: True. I mean, it hasn't happened in real life probably, honestly.
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: You could, yeah.
• 29:35
  Speaker 10: I mean, all he did was rob banks. He didn't
• 29:37
  Speaker 10: kill anyone, so.
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: And he turned the other guy in.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: So really, he could make a deal with the lawyer
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: and find a way to be like, sell, you.
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: Know, the other guy down the river.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Well, also, if he's the IP, he sold his buddy out.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: It's possible. It's the scary thing. To do as much
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: damage as he did and walk away scot-free.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: You're right.
• 29:54
  Speaker 11: Wow. Oh, man.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I mean, the whole thing still,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, as much as it's that film noir structure,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: it's such a character piece. I mean, it is without
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Billy Bob Thornton.
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: And it's weird because they tried to cast other people.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: And I can't imagine anybody else doing this.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Who else did they try to cast?
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: They were trying to get Bill Murray cast. Who does
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: have a weird dark side. I love Bill Murray. I
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: love Bill Murray, especially in his serious stuff now. He's
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: found a way to make it work.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Was this before or after Lost in Translation?
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: He didn't take this to do Lost in Translation. So
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: he was looking to do that kind of role. He
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: wanted to do something... After Lost in Translation. I can
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: see it. If it would have been right after or
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: at the same time, that's a good.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: caring.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: But it's still hard to take him that seriously. To me,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Billy Bob Thornton seems like he kind of.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Could be this guy.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: And going back to what you were saying, he did
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: admit to being intoxicated during the shooting of a good
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: amount of this movie.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: You can tell. You can tell. He looks, especially in
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: that first scene, I was like, oh, he's got to
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: be drunk. He's got to be drunk.
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: And you can see that coming from him.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: It seems so natural coming from Billy Bob Thornton.
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: But I don't know.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, Bill Murray is so funny. And just the
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: visual of him is so funny that I don't know
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: how much I would buy it.
• 31:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: The other big one that they had that I'm just like, oh.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: God, no.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: They listed Jack Nicholson.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, that would have been horrible. Yeah.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, again, talk about somebody who would be
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: chewing up the scenery. And not that Billy Bob doesn't
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: do some crazy over-the-top stuff. But, again, I'd buy it
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: coming from him. I think he really– Seems like he
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: would be, and if Hollywood didn't come along, he might
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: be this kind of guy.
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: And still could turn out that way, really. He's done
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: some weird shit in his life.
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: I can't imagine there being anyone better for this role.
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: And that's why I can't believe they didn't conceive it
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: with him in mind.
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: I know.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it was.
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: Written for him.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Could work in this role. He's not a big enough
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: actor for it, but I think Steve Zahn could knock
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: it out of the park. Maybe he'd be too funny,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: but I think he seems like the kind of actor...
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I was thinking of someone that was maybe... That you
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: wouldn't think of, but would.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Because when he was in Rescue Dawn, did you happen
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: to see it? I still haven't seen it.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I've heard he's pretty decent.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: He knocked that out of the park. Robert Downey Jr.
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: I'm just kidding.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. I'm just kidding.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: See, there's way worse.
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: Because that's the thing.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm kind of glad this has got
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: a few years on it. Because if they made it now.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: It would be Robert Downey Jr.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: No, if they made it now, I would almost guarantee
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: they would try to give it to Adam Sandler. Yeah. And, God,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: he would fuck it up.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 32:37
  Speaker 10: It would be Zach Galifianakis.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Well at this point yeah it actually would if a
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: year ago it would have been johnny rogan maybe yeah
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: before yeah before he did the crazy cop movie because
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: that's the same but i was thinking worst case scenario
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: well i don't know adam sandler it's like a tie
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: because the other one is they would give it to
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: kevin james and i'm like i don't even hate kevin
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: james he just makes terrible the what the fuck is
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: that he was sick uh the mall cop Yeah, Paul Blart. See?
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: That's how casting is working now. They would give it
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: to somebody like him. And, again, he just can't make
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: a good movie to save his life.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Or Russell Graham. That would be bad. Oh, God. Please, no.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, oh.
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: I hate to break it to you guys, but I
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: might be watching Get Under the Greek tonight for.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: The third time. That's your own fault.
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: I just love Jonas Hill so much. Oh, Lord.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I'd be glad they didn't give it to him, either.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: I don't know that I don't.
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: I think what made it so funny is that Billy
• 33:34
  Speaker 10: Bob Thornton is not a fat man.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Right. I was going to say, that's what I was like,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: that's why it would.
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: Be stupid for them to give it to somebody like
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: Kevin James because.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: That's the joke.
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: Look, he's a fat guy.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: He's Santa.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: They play that stupid joke with him in everything he does.
• 33:47
  Speaker 11: And he is.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Even skinnier than Billy Bob Thornton normally is, too. I mean,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: he just looks even thinner than he normally is.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the visual is kind of striking because
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: not only is he just dirty and gross and falling
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: down drunk, but this, like, stick-thin, 98-pound freaking version of
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Billy Bob Thornton with this Santa suit hanging off of him.
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: He doesn't even wear it.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: He's just got it draped on him most of the movie,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: so it's... That's what made it so funny. It is, yeah.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: And that's, again, why I think this version worked, not
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: what they would probably do to it if they recast
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: it now.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: It would have been as good as it gets with
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: an alcoholic instead of a.
• 34:25
  Speaker 10: Alec Baldwin.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, they could make that funny with Alec Baldwin now,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: but it would not.
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: Be the same movie.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: It would be ridiculous, but it might be funny.
• 34:35
  Speaker 10: I don't know. I'd watch it.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: He was in... He played... I mean, a dirty, nasty
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: character in Cat in the Hat. Oh, yeah.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I've avoided that so far.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: No, it's not, because it's a lot of Mike Myers.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: That's what I was afraid of. But Alec Baldwin in
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: it is, I mean, he goes out on a limb
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: and really makes himself look very bad in that movie.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: So that... It could work. It could work.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I almost give Billy Bob Thornton credit
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: for for this. I mean, there is no vanity in
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: this movie.
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: No.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: From that first shot, he looks like shit, and it
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: never gets any better. I still thought I'm attractive.
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: Well, that, again, doesn't surprise me.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, I mean, you could not give
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: a lot... I mean, can you imagine a lot of
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: the pretty boy, lady men doing something like this? Because
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: most of them, unless they're looking to get that Oscar,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: unless they're really trying to sell it, they wouldn't even try,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: because it would... And again, a movie as messed up
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: as this is could potentially kill your career, really.
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's got.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: such a weird twisted story that it could be one
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: of those that like, Oh, after last year, no, I
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: don't think we're going to cast him in this anymore.
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: Did you see him in that movie? So he is just, he's.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Utterly shameless in this movie. I mean, you, you see
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: him piss himself. You see him sitting on the toilet.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: And what I feel is the most disgusting scene in
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: this movie, and that's saying a lot because this is
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: a disgusting movie, when he takes the turkey leg and
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: then throws it in the toilet that he couldn't flush. Oh,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: my God. There's something just really horribly gross about that scene.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: yeah there's something yeah that then once again that just
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: tells you that's pretty early on that tells you where
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: we're going.
• 36:18
  Speaker 10: With this character i don't like when that kid sneezes
• 36:20
  Speaker 10: chocolate ice cream on his face and he.
• 36:22
  Speaker 15: Doesn't wipe it off again that's i mean just shameless
• 36:26
  Speaker 15: like he just who else would sit there for like
• 36:29
  Speaker 15: that entire scene with this snot and chocolate ice cream
• 36:32
  Speaker 15: sprayed across his face.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: It's so disgusting and he just sits there delivering lines
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: to kids as they climb up on.
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: It what do you want That's another thing I like
• 36:41
  Speaker 9: about this.
• 36:41
  Speaker 10: It's just like he's so despicable, yet he keeps getting hired,
• 36:46
  Speaker 10: and he's not fired.
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: This just is so unrealistic. Not necessarily.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, if he really knew how to work the system,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: and you see how schooled he is in that. He
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: seems kind of like an idiot so much of the time,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: but you see when he gets in that situation where
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: they're going to get fired, how he knows how to
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: play the right cards.
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: I guess so, but it's just like aside from that
• 37:07
  Speaker 10: one angry parent, there'd be a slew of angry parents
• 37:10
  Speaker 10: like you just told my kid to fuck off or
• 37:12
  Speaker 10: you know.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: The only thing I can think that would level it
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: out though is they talk about how cheap he's doing
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: it and these stores are so penny pinching especially at
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Christmas but.
• 37:21
  Speaker 10: You have to pay some minimum wage no matter what
• 37:23
  Speaker 10: so you know I guess but I.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Mean I think if it's a contract you can probably
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: pay them you know if they say we will do
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: this service for this amount of time for this money.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah you can sign something that says they can screw
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: you over really and what do they care because they're
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: going to steal everything so plus they've got the gimmick
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: of the little elf guys they're banking on that everywhere
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: they go so.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: Plus if you're making minimum wage to play santa claus.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: You're getting hosed yeah and think about how much that
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: other guy he'd been there what five years or something
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: he had to be making you know so much more
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: right doing it successfully year after year that when they
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: come in and underbid him massively and bring their you
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: know selling point which is the the elf Yeah, there's
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: a level I could see that, you know, the fact
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: that it gets away with, you know, sometimes you have
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: to skate by on some of the security issues because
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: it's pretty easy on some of these things they pull off.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: I know a guy that plays Santa Claus every year,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: and he is a disgusting human being. I wouldn't let
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: him in my house.
• 38:19
  Speaker 10: Whoa.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: So, and he brings down big, big, his Santa suit
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: is like a $ 15, 000 Santa suit. He is the real
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: deal Santa Claus, and he's gross.
• 38:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah. My uncle played Santa a lot. He's a pretty,
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: I wouldn't say despicable human being, but he and my
• 38:41
  Speaker 10: mom's favorite thing to do, which is why she was
• 38:44
  Speaker 10: calling me earlier. They love to go to, like, food
• 38:46
  Speaker 10: banks and, like, take food from food banks.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: Which, I mean, neither one of them have a job.
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: Are they making a movie about him?
• 38:54
  Speaker 10: I mean, I guess.
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: That's their job.
• 38:56
  Speaker 10: They don't have a job anymore, but, you know, it's
• 38:58
  Speaker 10: not because they can't. It's just because they're lazy, so...
• 39:02
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: I have no job, so I can't.
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: You don't like going to food banks just for fun.
• 39:08
  Speaker 10: You don't call all your friends, hey, I hit up
• 39:11
  Speaker 10: three food banks today. I got all these potatoes. Need
• 39:13
  Speaker 10: some potatoes? That's what my mom fucking said.
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: To me on the phone.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 39:18
  Speaker 9: I got a whole bunch of potatoes. You need some potatoes?
• 39:21
  Speaker 9: Need some bread?
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Don't let Terry Zweigoff know about her. He will be fascinated.
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: I mean, she picked me up the other day.
• 39:26
  Speaker 10: Well, she drove up to my house and just honked
• 39:30
  Speaker 10: until I came outside. I was like, let's go to
• 39:32
  Speaker 10: the flea market. And, I mean, I couldn't say no
• 39:34
  Speaker 10: to that, honestly.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I couldn't say no.
• 39:36
  Speaker 10: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but I just had to go.
• 39:39
  Speaker 10: And then she was like, hey, you ever need bread?
• 39:41
  Speaker 10: There's a food bank down the street. They give away bread.
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: And I'm like, I can buy my own fucking bread.
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: And she's like, why? Why not save yourself a dollar?
• 39:49
  Speaker 10: I was like, it's a fucking dollar. I can buy
• 39:50
  Speaker 10: my own goddamn bread. I have a job. I mean,
• 39:53
  Speaker 10: if I can afford a brand new car and a
• 39:56
  Speaker 10: brand new phone and my own place to live, I
• 39:58
  Speaker 10: can buy a fucking $ 1 loaf of bread.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: See, that's the difference is you've got that line of decency.
• 40:03
  Speaker 16: Right.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: And this entire movie is nothing but characters with no
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: decency whatsoever. There's never a moment in his day where
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: he's throwing a bottle at a car, just walking in
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: the mall. For no good reason other than that's the
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: way he is.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: I think one of my favorite parts, the most... brash
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: thing he does is when he just he's behind the
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: bar at the beach just makes himself a drink and
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: then nonchalantly walks away after he's shoved out i mean
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: he doesn't run he doesn't care nobody's gonna hurt.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Him doesn't give a rat's ass about anybody or anything
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: i mean there's no situation and It is one of those,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: that's that level where it's really dark when he sits
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: there and tells that lady, you think you can make
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: my life worse?
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Fucking go ahead. And again, that's the part that I
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: think is real. That's the part that there are a
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: hell of a lot of people out there that are
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: living like that. And that's why they have no decency.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: That's why they have no morals to worry about. Because
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: things are already so fucked up, at least in their mind, that,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: you know, what are you going to do? How can
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: things get worse for me than the fucked up life
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I have right now? So, yeah, it throws away all
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: the decency, all the morals are gone. Yeah.
• 41:16
  Speaker 10: Santa?
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Is that your underwear?
• 41:19
  Speaker 11: Part of it.
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: Where the hell's the rest of it?
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: No, actually, don't tell me.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I don't want to know.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: What do you want?
• 41:25
  Speaker 11: I was thinking I wanted a purple stuffed elephant, not pink.
• 41:28
  Speaker 11: But now I changed my mind. Yeah?
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: What?
• 41:31
  Speaker 11: Now I don't want an elephant at all. I want
• 41:33
  Speaker 11: a gorilla named Davey for beating up the skateboard kids
• 41:36
  Speaker 11: who pull on my underwear. and he could take his
• 41:38
  Speaker 11: orders from the talking walnut, so it wouldn't be my
• 41:41
  Speaker 11: bad thing.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Jesus, kid.
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: When I was your age, I didn't need no fucking gorilla,
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: and I wasn't as big as one of your legs.
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: Four kids beat me up one time, and I went
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: crying home to my daddy, and you know what he did?
• 41:51
  Speaker 11: He made it all better?
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: No, he kicked my ass. You know why?
• 41:55
  Speaker 11: Because you went to the bathroom on Mommy's dishes?
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: What the fuck?
• 42:00
  Speaker 10: No.
• 42:01
  Speaker 11: He tried to teach you not to cry and be
• 42:03
  Speaker 11: a man?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: No.
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: It's because he was a mean, drunk son of a bitch.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: And when he wasn't busy busting my ass, he was
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: putting cigarettes out on my neck. The world ain't fair.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: You got to take what you need when you can
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: get it. You got to learn to stand up for yourself.
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: You're going to have to quit being a pussy and
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: kick these kids into balls or something.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Or don't. Shit, I don't care.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Just leave me the hell out of it.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Now get on out of here.
• 42:25
  Speaker 16: Okay.
• 42:26
  Speaker 11: Thanks, Santa.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, the relationship with him and
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: the kid does tie it together as much as... I mean,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: he really is the only... You know, you've got a little...
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Lauren Graham is a little wide-eyed, but again, we've introduced
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: that she's just part of the problem as well as
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: everybody else. I mean, if there's anybody that is the
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: innocence in this movie, is the only thing that's not
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: horrible and depraved, it's this little kid.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It would be too dark if you didn't have
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: the innocence of the kid.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: You would need something, I think.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be too disturbing, I think.
• 43:01
  Speaker 11: I mean.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: He's so innocent that, you know, what does he say
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: about the bad things are all said by the walnut
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: or something like that?
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the talking walnut.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: That's some fucked up stuff.
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's crazy.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: That's a kid that's had a lot of issues.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: And that's, again, a thing that I like because in
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: a lesser movie, in a movie you gave to another
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: director that was doing some cheesy, you know, Hollywood Christmas bullshit.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: it would be this cutesy little Hollywood kid. But you
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: look at this kid. This is not the kind of
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: kid you cast in a movie, and certainly not a
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: big mainstream holiday movie. So the fact that he's got
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: that visual anyway, and then he plays it so creepy.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: He's almost like a stalker in the beginning. He just
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: stands there, and then once he gets into his house,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: he's standing over his bed while he's sleeping, just staring
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: at him.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: And he's dollishly cute in the face. You know, cherub-like.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: dollish face with his eyes and his hair like a
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: a cabbage patch kid or something, but he's creepy as shit.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's almost so misguided and so blind to everything
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: that you almost could see him doing something fucking crazy
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: because he just thought that's the way things go or that's,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: you know, what the talking walnut fucking told him to do.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I know, for kids.
• 44:13
  Speaker 10: Yeah. I never even thought of it because the kid
• 44:15
  Speaker 10: just played it so well, it doesn't even strike you
• 44:17
  Speaker 10: as acting, but god.
• 44:18
  Speaker 9: Damn, that kid was fucking amazing.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: He was.
• 44:20
  Speaker 10: I mean, I'm sure that kid's not really like that. Right.
• 44:24
  Speaker 9: You know, but I mean, damn, that kid.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Again, it's another one of those characters. I'm just like,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: that kid is real. There is a messed up kid
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: out there that's just like him. And he lives and
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: breathes it in this movie. And it's weird and creepy.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: And that's, again, there's like no normalcy in this movie.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of why I like it. And that's
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: why I can't believe it even, I mean, even with
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the guttural humor, I can't believe normal people are on
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: board for this movie. Because it's so fucked up. There's
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: no level of normalcy. There's no hero here. It should
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: cross the line into the darkness that most people won't
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: get on board for.
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: But, I mean, it's found a following.
• 44:59
  Speaker 10: People don't really think that far into movies, you know.
• 45:01
  Speaker 10: I mean, and that's the thing that's sad. It's found
• 45:06
  Speaker 10: its niche in people who love dark humor.
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: People such as ourselves.
• 45:10
  Speaker 10: People who really delve into the things behind movies and
• 45:13
  Speaker 10: the storyline and the plot and all that jazz. You know,
• 45:17
  Speaker 10: people who get stoned and sit around and watch Adam
• 45:19
  Speaker 10: Sandler movies.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: And that's frightening to me that these are balanced out.
• 45:24
  Speaker 10: But it's just so.
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: It's funny. It's thoughtlessly funny.
• 45:28
  Speaker 10: It is.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, there is a level where you can turn
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: your brain off and just laugh because he says fuck
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 45:33
  Speaker 9: And when you think about it, it's really dark. But,
• 45:35
  Speaker 9: you know, it's just.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Fucking straight up funny. People don't like to think a
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: lot is what we're coming to.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: There are people that laugh at South Park because... cartman
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: says shit yeah and there's people that laugh at south
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: park because they get the satire yeah there's two completely
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: different audiences at two level more than more than two
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: levels that's the same thing with this you could show
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: this to a you know college frat crowd and they
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: would laugh for different reasons than the college art house
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: crowd so exactly.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, it's just that is what worked
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: so well for me is just how freaking impressively dark
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 46:14
  Speaker 10: And that's what I like about Terry Zweigoff. I mean,
• 46:17
  Speaker 10: you know, like Ghost World isn't for everybody.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Definitely not.
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: Nothing he's done is really.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 46:23
  Speaker 10: And Art School Confidential isn't for everybody. But, you know,
• 46:25
  Speaker 10: like he knows people so well. He knows what makes
• 46:31
  Speaker 10: people tick. And I think if he wanted to, and
• 46:34
  Speaker 10: I respect him because he doesn't, He knows how to
• 46:37
  Speaker 10: cleverly disguise an intelligent, dark-humored movie that runs really deep
• 46:43
  Speaker 10: as just this funny movie that anyone can watch and
• 46:47
  Speaker 10: anyone can enjoy. That's what I like about him so
• 46:49
  Speaker 10: much as a director.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: He's definitely got that level that just runs so much deeper.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: And I guess, again, he's found his audience. And the
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: people that like his movies are going to see his
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: movies more than likely, regardless of what it is. But
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: this just seemed like such a... attempt at mainstream before
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: you really started watching it but I mean working in
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: the the funny Bernie Mac stuff and even John Ritter
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: who both of them are good John Ritter's amazing in
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: this right but I mean to me those are a
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: little more recognizable people trying to make it a little
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: more mainstream comedy so it I can see them trying
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: to do that but I just don't see it working
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: really with with I don't know I don't see how
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: he could do anything that's not dark and twist it's.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: A shame about both Bernie Mac and uh Ritter.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah rest in peace yeah And we were trying to
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: decide if John Ritter died during the filming because his
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: character does just disappear, really.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was set up for a bigger part and
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: then just, yeah, completely disappeared.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: It just is gone. But, you know, what can you do?
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: It's good that we have at least this performance from him.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: It was the last thing that he shot.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you don't have to worry about me anymore.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I'm out.
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: I have to be going soon.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Do you want to wave goodbye to the people?
• 48:00
  Speaker 9: Bye, everybody. I have to go. That's all I have.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: To say about the movie.
• 48:05
  Speaker 16: Merry Christmas.
• 48:05
  Speaker 9: Happy New Year.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Joyous Kwanzaa. Thanks for listening.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Happy Hanukkah.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Happy Kwanzaa.
• 48:10
  Speaker 10: Happy non-denominational festival holiday of the season.
• 48:15
  Speaker 8: Joyous Festivus.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Happy Festivus, yes. And up next will be the feats
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: of strength.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: That's why she's running now. She knows there's going to
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: be a rashling.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: First, the airing of grievances.
• 48:28
  Speaker 11: Oh, well.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I've got a big fucking list, let me tell you. Oh, man.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: What else?
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the thing that probably sticks with me the most, honestly,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: in this movie is the kid. Yeah. I just, he's
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: so fragile. And so to me, the one scene where
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: he reveals to Billy Bob Thornton's character that he's in
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: on it and that he gets it all, you know,
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: then you kind of like that big, oh, and when
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: he's talking about his mother and the donkeys and the.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: the angels, or that his father's off climbing mountains. He understands.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: He's dealing with it the only way he knows how.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's been abandoned basically for three years.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: So he was a.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Much younger kid when he had to start telling these
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: lies to himself. So at that point, he probably did
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: believe them. But years go by, and he gets older.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: He starts to figure things out and be like, well,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: this is how it works for me. This is how
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I can deal with it. So he continues these little lies,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: but it's like the Santa Claus thing. It's like he,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of kids play along for years,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: even though they're like, well, I'm pretty sure it's not real,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: but you know, whatever, like we said before, just go
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: along with it. Cause that's what you're expected to do.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: And you know, in his world, that's what he's expected
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: to do. Grandma makes you sandwiches and you hang out
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: by yourself. And one day dad will come back from,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: you know, exploring mountains.
• 49:58
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: And you know, every time there is a part where
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: someone is dealing with something that they can't handle it.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: It's dealt with, well, can I make you some sandwiches?
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, I don't know what else to do,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: so I'll make you some sandwiches.
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: That's the only thing that goes on in his world.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: So it's an automatic response to, well, this is the solution.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: I can fix it if I can just do this.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Which, again, is why I wonder if this is the case,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: I will again give them credit for casting. Is that
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: why they cast a kid who's not a thin child?
• 50:33
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: That everything he does to... cope with his problems is
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: eat sandwiches right so i mean he's a pretty large
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: boy so again that i mean if you want to
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: look at it that deeply that's kind of genius on
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: their part that they've and.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Are those supposed to be the same clothes that he
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: was wearing three years ago when his dad went to jail.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah you know maybe because you don't see grandma going
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: out to buy him anything new.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: No grandma can't do anything she's senile so out of
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: it yeah so yeah it it The only thing that's
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: not realistic about that is the house is clean.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But again, maybe it was part of his ritual
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: before Dad left, so maybe it's part of his day-to-day.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's actually the one cleaning things up because Dad
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: wants it clean when he gets back or something like that.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: If I keep it clean, things will be okay. Yeah,
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: I know. That's true.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Dealing with it, yeah.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's... But I think, yeah, that relationship between the
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: two of them is as messed up as it is.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: And the fact that he doesn't care. He curses around
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: him constantly. He calls him horrible names. But in the end,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: once he starts to see how messed up the kid's
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: life is, he starts trying to help him. And you
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: go through that weird part in the middle where he's
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: trying to teach him to grow up and be a man.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: And again, I think one of the more impressive things
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: about this is you start to see this dawning on him.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: as a character that he also needs to grow up
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: and be a man.
• 51:55
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: He's been living this bullshit life for, you know, ever
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: his entire run. He's never really grown up and gotten
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: a real life and become a man and did what
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: you're supposed to do. And, and, Basically, what he's turning
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: into is his father. He talks about how horrible his
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: dad was and how he was a drunk and he
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: was a foul-mouthed guy who used to beat him. And
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: he's one step away from that here. He never hits
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: the kid. He never comes close to hitting the kid.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: He throws his tantrums and he throws things around and
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: he breaks shit constantly. So, I mean, he's one step
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: away from that point. I mean, he's... He's just not
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: been exposed to kids enough, I guess, that maybe it
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: never went down that way. But you get the feeling
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: he would have no problem with an adult. So maybe that, again,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: is the last shred of dignity.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: And he did beat up a kid.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he had no problem beating.
• 52:41
  Speaker 8: The hell out of that skateboard punk, which was awesome,
• 52:43
  Speaker 8: by the way.
• 52:44
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: But, yes, I don't know.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: I think there is that level of, you know, that,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I really like that part where he
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: actually starts to realize. Again, it's one of those moments
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: of redemption.
• 52:55
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: It never pans out. I mean, he never really fully
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: comes around. And I think in a more generic, heartwarming movie,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: the kid would totally redeem our main character. And, you know,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: it would be a big, cheesy, happy ending like most
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: holiday movies. But in this movie, it's like he slowly
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: begins to wear away the innocence from the kid, really.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: It's like it almost works in reverse. He sort of
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: has these moments where he redeems Billy Bob Thornton. But
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: in a way, in the end, Billy Bob's done way
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: more to the kid... from his lifestyle, then, you know,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Billy Bob's kind of the same guy in the end. Right.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: The kid's very different now.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, I don't know. In a way, it's...
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: weird and once again shows sort of an even darker
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: and more depraved ending that there is no redemption for
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: billy bob thornton but he's now warped the mind of
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: this innocent.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Child right right well you know and and in a
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: way some of it's good film noir too there is
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: a lot of times there is no redemption no so
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: uh definitely i i wouldn't want them to sell out
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: and it to be you know leave it to beaver
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: or something like that that would that would make it
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: horrible That would be a Jack Nicholson movie.
• 53:58
  Speaker 11: It would.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: That would be terrible.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: And you can't have moments like... To me, the turning
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: point is the pickle. I mean, that is fucking heartbreaking
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: when he walks in and tells that story. And it's
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: like the only thing that comes close is the elephant
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: at the end. And it's like those are the few
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: moments of decency in Billy Bob Thornton's character. But everything else,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: it's like that's really the only time you see this
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: moment of good come out in him. Even when he's
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: trying to... Because you get to that point at the end,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: he's almost... plain house it's like he's got laurie graham
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: there's the mom they're you know get their trim of
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: the tree they've got the kid there grandma's in the
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: other room you know he really is trying to have
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: this little dream life that he mentions at the beginning
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: but even then he doesn't see like he's still cursing
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: at him while he's doing it he's still the same
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: guy like he never really comes around and you know
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: has this redemption and you know totally changes over and
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: is this big sappy heartwarming no no he goes right
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: back to kind of being a terrible person again pretty
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: pretty quickly and Again, this is one of those that,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: and why I've, I just sort of picked it and
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't remember how dark it was until I went
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: back and watched it this week.
• 55:04
  Speaker 8: And I think that, again, is what I latched onto.
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: I think it's, it exists.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: And I think more what I sort of gave it
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: respect for is that it exists in a real world.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: It's like a world where everybody's problems don't just disappear
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: because it's December and there's holiday music on the radio.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: It exists in a real world where suicides go up
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: at Christmas. It exists in that world where these people
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: are all horrible people. They're all dealing with horrible problems.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Messed up mindset that sometimes isn't even their own fault.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: They grew up that way and they don't even understand
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: how messed up they are. And there's no way for
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: them to get out of it. They're just like, my
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: life is fucked. How much worse could it get? So
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: it It's so dark. Again, I just give it credit
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: for not pulling punches, for just really going down that
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: road and sticking to it.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: One thing that I always try to pay attention to
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: the geography of a film. One thing I like about
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: it is it's set in Arizona, southwest.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Warm Christmases always seem so.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: It's strange. It's really fucking cold right now. and and
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: plastic for them to have what you know and and
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: and i think that fits better in with this movie
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: i think if it would have been set in minneapolis
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: it wouldn't you know it could have had a darker
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: feel because it's set in minneapolis.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah but but it wouldn't feel so fake it would feel.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: So fake and forced and so that that to me
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: is another a little point i was like because i
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: i kept thinking i A lot of times I think, okay,
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: why did they pick Arizona? Okay, maybe it's cheaper to
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: shoot there. They wanted to be warm in their shooting. Whatever.
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: Sometimes that's all it is.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: Sometimes that's all it is, but they could have picked Vancouver,
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: and it could have been Christmassy or something like that,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: but no. They picked Arizona because Christmas looks so much
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: more fake someplace like that.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: And again, I think it's that visual. It's much like
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: him being super skinny in the giant suit. It's like
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: these people dressed in winter gear and that shot of
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: them walking down the street, that first shot when they
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: cut to Arizona is fucking priceless.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: And that, you know, that's worth the movie right there.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Just that shot of the two of them walking up
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: with like those heat waves coming off the fucking road.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: It's so damn hot. And they're there and they're Santa
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: and elf gear. And that shot is just awesome.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: And he tosses the bottle at the Mercedes.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: At the Mercedes. Oh, man. So I think the only
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: other thing I was going to touch on is that, again,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I said I was watching the It's a Wonderful Life
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: this week. And that's another one that's a very dark
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: version of sort of a Christmas tale. Yeah. And in
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: a way, it was just like, I actually ran across
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: somebody that did a review on Bad Santa and kind
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: of made a comparison. It actually was a decent review,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: but they compared... One to the other, and at the
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: end they were like, except George Bailey never kicked Mr.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Potter in the nuts. And I was like, again, that's
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: the difference. This isn't a real world. Because in the
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: real world, somebody needs to beat the hell out of Mr. Potter.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: He's a conniving, backstabbing, greedy motherfucker, and somebody needs to
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: beat the hell out of him. But that can't happen
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: in a Frank Capra world. And Frank Capra would never
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: allow one of his main characters. They are heroes, so
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: no hero... especially in that frank capper world could ever
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: cross that line there is a level of decency and
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: you even see you've got you know george bailey almost
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: gets bought out by him he offers him the money
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: and he's like hey come work at us you get
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: the biggest house in town and you get all i
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: mean he he really tries to play that he tries
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: to tempt him and you watch him say no screw
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: you i'm not going to be that you know everybody
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: else is falling into line and i'm not going to
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: be that guy And that was just kind of the
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: main difference. It's like you look at something like a
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Frank capper movie and that's what it is there is
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: that there is that good level to everybody there you
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: know with the exception of the villain mr potter but
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: this is like the polar opposite it's like we have
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: it exists in that real world where people are depressed
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: at the holidays and you know people are fucking horrible
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: to each other so it's i don't know i think
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: it is one of those things that's kind of an
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: interesting comparison to look at you know this this seemingly
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: perfect world and then this real world version that that
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: bat santa.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Exists in those people are out there.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: A lot of them right i might be turning it
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: oh lord so hmm so yeah 170 uses of fuck
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: 74 uses of shit 31 uses of ass 10 uses
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: of bitch and one use of bastards.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: Wow, you'd think there'd be more bastards in it.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: No, no, there's a lot of bastards in the story,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: but not so much in the dialogue.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: A lot of fuck. I mean, it's just about every line.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Just about every line. And again, in a
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: lesser movie, I think it would come off ridiculous and
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: over the top, but these guys are so horrible that
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: I actually buy what they're saying.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't sound like they're speaking any different than
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: they normally would in their world. They're that bad of people.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: They are, yeah, these horrible people. Yeah, both of them.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 8: It's like, you know, the.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 8: The elf is equally as horrible as Santa. Oh, probably more.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: By the end of it is more.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 8: You see, by the end of it, you realize.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: that Billy Bob Thornton is sort of trying to redeem himself,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: but his partner doesn't care. He has no remorse. He
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: has no redemption. He plans on killing people and moving
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: on to the next hit next year.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Well, like he says when they're at the standoff there
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: in the mall, he says, look at you people. He's
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: judging them. He is a horrible, horrible person. And he says,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: look at you people.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: He's still looking down.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: You don't need this stuff. How dare you?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Which is a minor jab at the whole commercialism thing.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: But it's the only thing.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: It's kind of weird.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Because other than that, he doesn't seem like he cares
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: the rest of the time. He could care less about
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: anything for the rest of the movie. But he all
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: of a sudden has this weird turn. Again, that's another
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: line that I don't know where it came from. I
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: don't know if it was like, Add it in later,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: because it seems almost out of place, too. But again,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: it is interesting to see him looking at them and
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: judging them of, you know, look how much worse you
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: are than me. And that's saying something, because I'm a
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: horrible human being.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 10: So, yeah.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: I just want to know how he spent $ 100, 000 in
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: this couple of months. Other than, you know, you can't
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: do that in alcohol.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Lottery tickets.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: Lottery tickets.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Losing lottery tickets.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 8: I like that.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: He stole like thousands of dollars.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 8: And what does he do?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: He goes and buys scratch-offs.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: And won't give the stripper a dollar. He'll give her
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: a scratch-off.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: He'll give her $ 5 in scratch-offs.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: That's a pretty good tip.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: That's pretty good, yeah.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: And she came home with it.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Once again, I don't understand any of this.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 14: Although.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Even the big girls. I don't know what the big
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: girls were thinking either.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: That's just funny.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: For the subtle joke, the most fucking awesome subtle joke
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: in the thing is that the sign, and I'm assuming it's, again,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's the department, but again, working in retail,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's their sale for the moment where you
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: have to change out the signs every time it's time
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: for a new quote-unquote sale, even though everything's fucking the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: same every time. But, yeah, the signage says, three times
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: the lady. I was like, now, they never mention that.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: You don't even see it very well. It's off, like,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: they walk past the sign when he's going to the
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: room where they're doing things.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 8: So, yeah.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: Oh, man.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: That was, again, anybody that can work in, like, subtle
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: humor like that and not shove it down your throat
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: and just be like, you know what?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 8: This is funny because I think it's funny. If anybody
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 8: else catches it, that's awesome.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: But... I'm not going to make it, you know, again,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: a lesser director, a lesser movie would have done that.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: It would have been the whole joke of that scene.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 14: Right.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 8: But, nope, it's barely even noticeable.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: Or they'd stop, the camera would stop on it and go, hey, nudge, nudge.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 11: Nudge, nudge.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Just start there and pan on over to the characters
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: and be like, oh, get it?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 8: Look at the sign.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, again, just touches that Terry Zweigoff does that's
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: so much better than, you know, most other directors. So, I.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 8: I really kind of wish he would do more stuff.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: But again, I guess I don't want him to start
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: doing things that don't fit what he does. I think
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: he kind of knows his movie. And maybe he waits
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: until he finds something that fits what he does.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: Or somebody that will.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Put the money up to do what he wants to do.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: I think that's the more important thing.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Probably, because to me, his best movie is his first.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: And that's because he had freedom to do whatever, because
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: it's a documentary and nobody really cares about documentaries and
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: he didn't need much money to make it. He just
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: needed a camera and he followed Trump around. To me,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: it's the best documentary I've ever seen. I like a
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: lot of other stuff, but the way that it's shot
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: is so impressive that Again, I just want to see
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: him do more stuff. Yeah, he's a hell of a director.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Anything else on Bad Santa?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: We pretty much talked about it as much as we can.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: I think we've covered every scene.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Dissected it quite a bit.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 8: Well, we will take a break and be back with
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 8: the end of the show.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 14: Oh, Sina.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 11: Oh, Mary. Keep it going.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 9: Jesus Christ.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 10: Yeah, baby.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 11: Yeah, baby.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: You ain't got to shit right for a week.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 12: They call me back though Santa I make.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: My runs about to break a day.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 12: I make all the little girls happy While the boys
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 12: are out to play.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 16: Friends.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 14: Here's a wonderful Christmas gift for anyone who smokes, because
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 14: it says Merry Christmas and Happy Smoking 200 times. Yes,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 14: 10 packs of those better-tasting Luckys, all done up for
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 14: Christmas in a beautiful carton created just for Lucky Strike
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 14: by the famous designer, Mr.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 10: Raymond Lowy.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 14: It'll look so bright and colorful under your Christmas tree,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 14: and it's such a welcome gift to anyone who enjoys
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 14: a good smoke. Because, you know, smoking enjoyment is all
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 14: a matter of taste. And the fact of the matter is,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 14: Luckys taste better. Cleaner, fresher, smoother. That's why you can't
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 14: go wrong if you remember your friends with these colorful
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 14: Christmas cartons of Lucky Strike.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Be happy, go lucky for Christmas gifts this year.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 11: Black Christmas.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 14: There was a little girl murdered over in the park tonight.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, I heard.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: A high school girl's been murdered.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Mr.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: Harrison's daughter is missing. And now at the house where
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: she lives, the other girls are getting obscene phone calls.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 12: Hello?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 11: What do you want?
• 1:07:03
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• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: Crisp winter nights, sleigh bells, crackling ear logs?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 11: Remember those? Remember them well.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 12: After Black Christmas, they'll never be the same again. Black Christmas.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 12: Starring Olivia Hussey, Kid Ulay, Margot Kidder, and starring John
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 12: Saxon as Lieutenant Fuller.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: If this movie doesn't make your skin crawl, it's on
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: too tight.
• 1:07:30
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• 1:07:31
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• 1:07:40
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• 1:07:47
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• 1:07:50
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• 1:07:53
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• 1:07:56
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• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: Woo-woo!
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: It's part of your problem, you know.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: You haven't seen enough movies.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: And now, on with the show.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 12: And it wouldn't be Christmas without you Can't fool me,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 12: I know.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: It's true Merry Christmas, merry la la la And.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 12: It wouldn't be Christmas without you Can't fool me, I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 12: know it's true Merry Christmas, merry la.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 14: La la Look at my.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: All right, we are back and we've got.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Feedback.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 11: Yay. Yay.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: We're going to have the hap-hap-happiest Christmas since Bing Crosby
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: tap dance with Danny fucking K.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Now, granted, as much as we've been off for quite
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: a while and I hadn't checked the voicemails in a
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: while because I was waiting until we got back here
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: around the table to go through them all, yeah, nothing, guys.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 8: What the hell's up with that?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 14: So, I mean.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: I was all excited.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we do have feedback, but just, you know, again,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: I can't afford heat, but I'm keeping this voicemail line
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: open so that you guys can get in. Yeah, we've
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: gone for like a month now and nothing, so I...
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: It's really sad is what it is.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm going to get you next Christmas?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: A big wooden cross. So every time you feel unappreciated
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: for all your sacrifices, you can climb on up and
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: nail yourself to it. Just call and leave dirty messages.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: That too is pretty awesome, actually. So, but yeah, we
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: did get feedback and we heard from Marty. And Marty says,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Hey guys, don't remember when I started listening, but your
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: podcast is awesome. Just listen to your Thanksgiving show. Living
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: in Australia, we don't celebrate Thanksgiving. However, Thanksgiving sounds hilarious.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: We'll definitely check it out. Keep doing the show as is.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of us are tired of everything
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: having to be completely non-offensive, PC, and homogenized.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 8: Have fun, dudes.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: Marty from Australia.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Great, Marty. Thank you.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 8: Once again, yeah, that's awesome to hear.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of why I'm picking a movie this
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: ridiculous and over the top and far from PC. Because
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: I think that kind of stuff doesn't have to turn
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: people off. I think there's something there that maybe it's
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: not PC to say some of the horrible things they say.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: But if you delve into it, I think there's something
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: smarter there. And I think there's something more to find.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: And hopefully that's true with what we do. Granted, we
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: say a lot of horrible things as well. We're one
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: shade away from Billy Bob Thornton. But I'd like to
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: think there's something redeeming about us. I would like to
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: think we appreciate the bloody pickle. Not everybody can say that.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: No, no. I think when you analyze the dark, when
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: you really... put a light on the dark and talk
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: about it instead of just forget about it or maybe
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: just focus on the humor um you really learn a
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: lot more.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of show, you know, that's,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: that's why people come to a show like this, that
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: they look for podcasts because people are number one, willing
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: to say what they think, which you don't get to
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: do in normal media. It's like, where else can you
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: just say horrible things like we do, but at the
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: same time also take a movie like this and dissect
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: it and go into all the obscenity and go into
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: all the horrible, you know, characters.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Or something as ridiculous as Thanksgiving. And yet we took
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: a pretty detailed look at that damn movie and found
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: the good in it. And don't get me wrong, there's
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of stupid things in it, but we found
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: some redeeming qualities in that too. And I think that's
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: what I think we're trying to do more than anything,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: or at least I am, is try to find that
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: other level where people, especially in traditional media, all they
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: want to do is talk up what's coming out and
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: just talk about... whatever the the good two-minute discussion on
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: what's going to sell the movie is and move on
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: and it's like i don't want to do that i
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: want to delve into it i want to find its
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: flaws i want to find you know what it does
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: that people overlook i think there's a lot more going
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: on in a way you have to be kind of
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: non-pc to do that i mean you can't right do
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: that without you know probably rubbing people the wrong way
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: because not everybody wants to hear that kind of stuff
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: but you know Again, we've got, you know, Marty says
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: keep on doing it. And we keep hearing from people
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: saying to keep that up. So that's what I'm taking
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: from it.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Marty.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Stick with it.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 10: So, yes.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: That's how I feel as well.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Marty, for our bloody pickle.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: If somebody wants to send Movie Meltdown a bloody pickle.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 8: Keep it in a plastic bag, though.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: We'll send you autographed photos.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: That nobody would want. Nobody would want it.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: Unless you want to use it to sign up for
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: a credit card or something. Make my credit bad.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: I'm already there, so you can't get anything from me.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: As I mentioned before, I don't have a job right now.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: You're not going to get much out of me. We're
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: ghetto poor. That's why we're eating Little Debbie's for Christmas.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: Whatever you want.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 11: Oh.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: Hey, and if you want to send us some money
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: and we'll do weird things on the show, by all means,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: we'll sell out.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not even sell out. We're just, at this point,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: desperate enough that we do need donations. Because I realized
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: last week, and you can tell on the Thanksgiving episode,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: at least one, and now I've found out two of
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: the mics sound like shit. And they're going out, and
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: I don't even have money to get new mics. So
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what we're going to do.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 10: So.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, plus my computer went down week before last, which
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: delayed an episode quite a bit, and I had to
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: go in debt to get that fixed so that I
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: could put out the next episode in this episode.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: And we barely have heat.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: And we don't, yeah, we're one step from a barrel
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: of fire, you know, hobo action here. So, yeah, I'm
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: just saying, I hear a lot of other shows that actually...
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: weekly thank people for their donations and i'm like you
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: know that that's what's hard is i don't think i
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: would care normally i don't expect anything from anybody but
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: when i hear other shows that are doing basically the
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: same thing as we are that yeah they're just people
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: are like throwing money at them that's just that's hard
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: to deal with.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah we'll kiss our moms for five bucks.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: That's you that's.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 16: What christmas is all about charlie brown okay kids get
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 16: out your dakota bins dun dun dun there we go
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 16: we need like a holiday jingle to go along with
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 16: it sorry.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: For you members of the secret circle it's time for
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: the movie lockdown secret circle reveal of some upcoming features
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: again the scheduling uh being the holidays of every variety
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: this you know end of this month We've got, as
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: I stated earlier in the episode, somebody that's working nonstop
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: and is not even available between now and then. Um,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: everyone else is probably going to have weird family stuff.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: So I'm not even a hundred percent sure when to
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: pin down the next one, but you know, it is
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: definitely coming. Uh, I've got several in the works, but
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: I will throw some out there for you to, uh,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: to look for and watch the movies if you're up
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: for it. Uh, We mentioned last time out we were
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: considering Survive Style 5. So I'm still waiting for, you know,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: Marlene is supposed to be hooking up with that movie.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Supposedly she has it or access to it.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: She's hooking up with the movie?
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 8: From a transvestite or something.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: I have no idea where she's going to get it,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: and I don't want to ask any questions at this point.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: Her transgender doppelganger?
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's paying her off in movies now.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 12: I don't know.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Let me look like you if I give you free movies.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: Who knows? I'm also working on, and this shouldn't be
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: a surprise because I just talked to Chainsaw, but yeah,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: I'm working on a summer school special episode, maybe even
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: a crossover with one of our Pal-O-Ver co-shows.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 14: Oh, cool.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: Sister shows are... No, we're not sisters. We're the bastard
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: children of the family. We're cousins.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: We're the redheaded stepchild.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 8: Ironically, we are.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, we are the bastard child of Pavler, I suppose.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: But they're still cool. So, I won't go into it yet.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: I'm still squaring away the details, but... Yep, summer school.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: That's going to be awesome. And we got a lot
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: of really good response to the Joe Bob Briggs episode.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people really liked it. I'm going to throw it
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: out there online. I've actually got an interview I did
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: with him before. That one was all about the movie.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: I've got one that I did with him that talks
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: about him coming up and being interested in movies and
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: him getting into... writing about it and journalism back when
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: nobody was doing this kind of thing. And I think
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: it's a really interesting interview. And since people kind of
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: responded so well to Joe Bob, if I'm trying to,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: in addition to everything else, get people to spread the
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: word about the show. So I'm actually, you know, this,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: this week I'm noting the, the level that we're at
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: on downloads. And if you guys can, can pass the word,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: anybody else, you know, that likes Joe Bob Briggs, it
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: likes Texas chainsaw massacre that, you know, that you think
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: would appreciate our sick sense of humor.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 8: Um, pass the word on the show.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: And, uh, if we can, if we can just bump
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: it up like a hundred downloads before the end of
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: the year, I will start piecing together this, this sequel
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: that has the, the Joe Bob interview. And we'll try
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: to find a fitting movie to watch. That's a Joe
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Bob related somewhat. So yeah, if, if you guys, yeah, if,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: if Joe Bob fans are out there or even if
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: you don't like Joe Bob, just, we really, I've been
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: trying to come up with a good way to, to
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: pass the word along. I mean, we're heading into the
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: third year here and I still feel like We're hitting
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: the same people every time. So I'd really like to
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: get it out there and find more people who would
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: be interested. So if you know anybody, if you think
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: they would like that episode or any of them, just
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: spread the word and get back with us and let
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: us know you did it. Because we would definitely appreciate
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: it and we'd be glad to hear what you're doing
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: to help get it out there.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: Or if you are on Facebook. And friends of us
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: on Facebook, just link to one of the episodes that
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: you find funny, and maybe one of your sick friends
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: will like it too.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: Or Twitter. We've had a few people that retweet when
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: I put the post up for the next one. That's awesome.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: There's a couple that do it almost every time, and
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that immensely. anybody else that follows us on
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Twitter or if not go follow us on Twitter. But yeah,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: anytime I put that up, feel free to, to pass
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: along to all your friends. Cause I'm, yeah, I'm just
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: really trying to find more people that appreciate the movies
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: that we do and the level of geeking out over
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: movies that we do.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: This is, this is free. So we can use some
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: free gorilla marketing. Definitely.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: We are the, the DIY, uh, show about movies. So we're,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: we're definitely up for some, some gorilla spreading of the word. So,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: All right, I think that is about it this week
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: to wrap up the Fuck Me Santa holiday special.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 11: Yes. Yes.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: I could put that on loop and put on a
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: Santa Claus hat and listen to her say that over
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: and over.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: I might do that later anyway might keep you warm anyway.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: And uh we love you lauren based on uh as
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: i mentioned earlier go see max and mary or excuse
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: me rent it or buy it it's it's uh that
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: good definitely all right i i figure plugging uh uh
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: uh an artist, you know, claymation is an art form
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: to me. Push animation as much as possible. Go buy it.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: It's that good.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mind spreading the word on movies, especially
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: stuff that we like, and it's kind of what we're
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: here for. So definitely anything we can pass along that
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: people might take a liking to, that's what we need
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: to do. So as far as music, I thought we'd
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: end this holiday episode with a song that has a
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: bad attitude about Christmas, like our movie this week. So
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: we'll go out with a song entitled Don't Steal or
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: Kill This Christmas. Which, of course, both things happen in.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 8: This week's movie. Otherwise, that about does it.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: Merry Christmas.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going to bed.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 12: Don't listen to what your parents say December 25th is
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 12: just another day Santa Claus doesn't really exist It's.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 7: All a bunch of holiday.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 12: Bullshit Don't bother celebrating Christmas I don't care what's on
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 12: your list Don't bother celebrating Christmas I don't care about your.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: Crummy gifts.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 12: I started shopping late December I should have started in
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 12: early November The girl at the cafe's such a little
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 12: bitch I'm getting poor and Hallmark's getting rich Don't bother
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 12: celebrating Christmas.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: I don't care what's on your list.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 12: Don't bother celebrating Christmas I don't care about your drumming
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 12: gifts There's no such thing as flying reindeer or those
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 12: stupid little elves.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: There's no house sitting on.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 14: The North Pole.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: It's all a bunch, a bunch of market hell.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: Don't bother celebrating Christmas.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 12: I don't care what's on your list. Don't bother celebrating Christmas.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: I don't care about.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 12: Your crummy gifts.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: Do the steam work it.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: It's Christmas. Do the steam work it.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 12: .
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  Speaker 3: I'm on my fucking lunch break, okay?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 10: Are you insane?
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 9: Management's going to hear about this.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: Think that's a threat?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: If you think you can make my fucking life any worse,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: you go right ahead.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: Be my fucking guest. Take a shot.
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• 1:22:50
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