Latest / Crosswalk Talk: Celebrity Christian Interviews / What 45,000 Students Lining Up at 3am Says About This Generation
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Life Audio. Hey Christian, thanks for joining me.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Hey, good to be with you, Michael.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Thanks man, Christian Stanfilip Passion Music is our guest today. Christian.
- 0:11Speaker 1: You have new music. You guys have new music. The
- 0:14Speaker 1: album is titled Just That Good. I've really enjoyed listening
- 0:17Speaker 1: to it. You have an upcoming tour as well. I
- 0:20Speaker 1: wanted to begin though, by talking about this current movement
- 0:23Speaker 1: of God that many are seeing among gen Z, among
- 0:27Speaker 1: the general population as well. You guys have been kind
- 0:30Speaker 1: of on the front lines of reaching out to the
- 0:32Speaker 1: young people of this nation for a long time. What
- 0:35Speaker 1: are you seeing right now though, in terms of this
- 0:38Speaker 1: outpouring of the spirit, this hunger of God among gen
- 0:41Speaker 1: Z and among young people.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty beautiful, man. There's a real hunger to gather,
- 0:51Speaker 2: like a desire to gather together. There's a real hunger
- 0:56Speaker 2: for God's word and authenticity in the worship. There's a
- 1:00Speaker 2: real desire to share, like these students sharing their faith
- 1:05Speaker 2: with their friends like an evangelistic spirit like on campus,
- 1:10Speaker 2: which is pretty pretty wild. And you know, we've been
- 1:13Speaker 2: a part of Passion, my wife and I for over
- 1:15Speaker 2: twenty years now, and man, I can't remember ever seeing
- 1:19Speaker 2: this kind of hunger or desire to meet with God,
- 1:24Speaker 2: with the people of God, to know God's word, to
- 1:28Speaker 2: share their faith. You know, it's it's pretty incredible to watch.
- 1:32Speaker 2: And I think, you know, it comes down to this.
- 1:35Speaker 2: I think this generation wants something durable, something that lasts,
- 1:39Speaker 2: something they can build their life on that's not going
- 1:41Speaker 2: to let them down. And you know, you and I
- 1:44Speaker 2: as well as this generation, I've been promised a lot
- 1:47Speaker 2: of things by culture or this world or social media
- 1:50Speaker 2: or I don't know, some kind of fame or attention
- 1:54Speaker 2: or success. All of that just it's got holes all
- 1:57Speaker 2: through it, man. But the Word of God and the
- 2:00Speaker 2: abundant life that Jesus promises, it's real and it's lasting,
- 2:03Speaker 2: and these students are discovering that, and it's they want
- 2:07Speaker 2: to live for it. It's not hypie, it's not emotional.
- 2:10Speaker 2: It's like real life change. There's like repentance, confession and
- 2:15Speaker 2: holy living happening. It's really beautiful to watch.
- 2:18Speaker 1: What do you think is driving this this current hunger
- 2:22Speaker 1: for God among gen zy? What has happened in the
- 2:23Speaker 1: past few years.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Well, I think you know, it's back to what I
- 2:28Speaker 2: was saying just a second ago. I think they're looking
- 2:32Speaker 2: for something that's going to like stand up under the
- 2:34Speaker 2: weight of their life and their concerns and their worries
- 2:37Speaker 2: and all that kind of thing. But you know, we
- 2:39Speaker 2: saw a real turn back in twenty three, in February
- 2:43Speaker 2: of twenty three during this Asbury stirring outpouring, and I'm
- 2:48Speaker 2: sure there were other things going on around that time,
- 2:50Speaker 2: but you know, that seemed to really open the door
- 2:54Speaker 2: to something fresh in our country. In the US, something
- 2:59Speaker 2: really fresh began to move and stir specifically on college campuses.
- 3:04Speaker 2: And I think, man, this is just my this is
- 3:07Speaker 2: just my observation. I'm just one person. I'm sure somebody
- 3:10Speaker 2: else has a more astute observation or opinion. But I
- 3:14Speaker 2: think what the Asbery thing did is it stripped back
- 3:18Speaker 2: all of the slick, high production value celebrity culture Christianity, like,
- 3:27Speaker 2: it stripped all that away and it just got back
- 3:30Speaker 2: to this simple, the simple thing of God just wants
- 3:34Speaker 2: to meet with his people. He just wants a heart
- 3:37Speaker 2: that is surrendered to him and just coming simply like
- 3:41Speaker 2: a child to him, just going I have faith and
- 3:45Speaker 2: I want to know you. And that's been the move man,
- 3:49Speaker 2: And that's not to say anything bad about production or
- 3:52Speaker 2: you know, lights or anything like that, because I know
- 3:55Speaker 2: a lot of people in production and that's their expression
- 3:58Speaker 2: of worship and it's beautiful. I think it all comes
- 4:01Speaker 2: down to the heart behind all of it. But anyway,
- 4:04Speaker 2: I think that just started to like take down all
- 4:07Speaker 2: of that, like, yeah, it's got to be this big,
- 4:10Speaker 2: blown up thing to like, No, just remember, remember it
- 4:14Speaker 2: comes down to a heart of faith wanting to meet
- 4:17Speaker 2: with God and man, he rests on those people.
- 4:21Speaker 1: So amen to that. Amen to that. I had been
- 4:24Speaker 1: chatting with friends. We were all talking about the current
- 4:26Speaker 1: movement of God among gen Z and it it's really
- 4:29Speaker 1: wild how it might have started at Asbury. So I'm
- 4:31Speaker 1: glad you mentioned that. And let's chat about the album
- 4:34Speaker 1: Just That Good. What are your favorite tracks on the
- 4:37Speaker 1: album which once have resonated with audiences?
- 4:39Speaker 2: Oh gosh, Oh it's so hard, man, because when you
- 4:43Speaker 2: get so attached. I love these songs. I love this project.
- 4:47Speaker 2: I love what all the songs represent. I have incredible
- 4:51Speaker 2: memories with every soul leading Just That Good has been
- 4:55Speaker 2: a blast. You know, this song it's an expression of
- 4:59Speaker 2: gratitu to an expression of joy, you know, from from
- 5:04Speaker 2: a heart from a life that's been redeemed, saved by Jesus.
- 5:09Speaker 2: You know, for me personally, I have a lot to
- 5:11Speaker 2: be thankful for. I have a lot of joy in
- 5:13Speaker 2: my life for what God has delivered me from and
- 5:16Speaker 2: for the way He's revealing himself to me.
- 5:18Speaker 1: I have a lot.
- 5:19Speaker 2: I'll have a lot of joy and gratitude to express.
- 5:21Speaker 2: And that's where the song comes from and turns out, Man,
- 5:25Speaker 2: that thread, that through line, that theme of the joy
- 5:29Speaker 2: of the Lord. It it kind of went from beginning
- 5:31Speaker 2: to end through conference and just getting undignified and unhinged
- 5:36Speaker 2: with these students, just like, let's just dance before the Lord,
- 5:39Speaker 2: let's sing to him, let's let's have a great time
- 5:43Speaker 2: in the presence of God together, just worshiping Him for
- 5:46Speaker 2: who he is, for what he's done. So that joy,
- 5:50Speaker 2: you know, kind of strung through the whole conference, and
- 5:52Speaker 2: so we thought, man, just that good feels like it's
- 5:54Speaker 2: the right tone. It's the right song for the you know,
- 5:57Speaker 2: the title track, love Love, Love love that song, and
- 6:01Speaker 2: there's so many good you know, other ones like what
- 6:03Speaker 2: a worthy Name is Just it's such a holy moment
- 6:06Speaker 2: declaring who God is singing about the truth of his character.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Landon leading watch him work is a powerful, straight like
- 6:14Speaker 2: statement of faith, you know. Just so I have a
- 6:17Speaker 2: lot of a lot of great, great thoughts by these songs,
- 6:20Speaker 2: love them.
- 6:30Speaker 1: And the Passion conference I believe that we're referencing was
- 6:33Speaker 1: in Texas, Is that right? Yeah?
- 6:34Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. We were at a Globe Life field
- 6:37Speaker 2: in Arlington and it was you know, like forty five
- 6:41Speaker 2: thousand college students there. And you know, I just say
- 6:46Speaker 2: that just to like highlight you know, what we were
- 6:49Speaker 2: talking about earlier. Like these students, they they come from
- 6:52Speaker 2: all over. They just want to gather, They just want
- 6:53Speaker 2: to be there. They want to be in the room.
- 6:54Speaker 2: They want to experience God and with their generation and
- 6:58Speaker 2: and bro, I just like the picture that's into my
- 7:01Speaker 2: brain is driving from the hotel to the two Globe
- 7:05Speaker 2: Live field one morning and watching these kids. They're lightning.
- 7:09Speaker 2: These kids, well they are kids. I'm in my forties now,
- 7:12Speaker 2: so they're kids. But these students, I don't mean the
- 7:15Speaker 2: benean them though. Like they're they're lined up all around
- 7:19Speaker 2: this building, all down the block, and they all have
- 7:23Speaker 2: their Bibles. They're all holding their physical Bibles and they're
- 7:28Speaker 2: they're just ready. You can sense it on them in
- 7:31Speaker 2: the line, like we are ready to meet with God.
- 7:34Speaker 2: And and so then you go, well, how long have
- 7:35Speaker 2: these students been here? Like they got here at three
- 7:38Speaker 2: o'clock this morning, they got here at three thirty, they
- 7:40Speaker 2: got to hear at four o'clock this morning, lining up
- 7:43Speaker 2: just so they can they so they can get in,
- 7:45Speaker 2: get in the room, they can be some of the
- 7:47Speaker 2: first in the room. They're just hungry man like, it's
- 7:50Speaker 2: only it's just a hunger and a thirst for God
- 7:53Speaker 2: and his word. It's just crazy. So anyway, it was
- 7:56Speaker 2: a phenomenal year.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Phenomenal for those who have never been to a passion
- 8:01Speaker 1: conference Christian. What is it? Is it? Several hours of
- 8:05Speaker 1: music and then testimonies and then a sermon? Is that?
- 8:09Speaker 1: What's kind of what how you would describe it?
- 8:12Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just essentially, Yeah, I mean it's you know,
- 8:15Speaker 2: we usually have a lot of really cool creative elements.
- 8:18Speaker 2: We have an amazing team of people who they make,
- 8:22Speaker 2: you know, these really cool video elements. And again like
- 8:25Speaker 2: these are people who, at the heart of it, they
- 8:28Speaker 2: love Jesus and this is their expression of worship. So
- 8:30Speaker 2: it's very cool, like these videos are anointed, like it's crazy,
- 8:35Speaker 2: and the stage design and all of it.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Like a lot of people.
- 8:39Speaker 2: Man, we have people stand outside Passion every year picketing,
- 8:41Speaker 2: being like this is, you know, just a show, It's
- 8:44Speaker 2: just a concert. And I'm like, man, you guys don't know,
- 8:47Speaker 2: you don't know, you don't know what you don't know.
- 8:50Speaker 2: We've been around for so long, and I can tell
- 8:53Speaker 2: you the heart of this thing is to see Jesus
- 8:56Speaker 2: exalted in this generation and to see college students live
- 8:59Speaker 2: for what matters most, which is the fame and the
- 9:02Speaker 2: name and the glory of God in their lifetime. Anything
- 9:05Speaker 2: other than that is a waste of time. So at
- 9:08Speaker 2: the heart of Passion, that's what it is. But we
- 9:10Speaker 2: do love. We love the stage design, and we love
- 9:14Speaker 2: the videos, and we love the moments and the songs.
- 9:18Speaker 2: And then we have these incredible friends who've been around
- 9:21Speaker 2: Passion for years, who love God and they love his word,
- 9:24Speaker 2: they know his word, and they bring these incredible messages.
- 9:28Speaker 2: We have testimonies from students. We ask students to give
- 9:31Speaker 2: money to raise money for like to translate scripture for
- 9:36Speaker 2: unreached people groups, and these students show up and give
- 9:41Speaker 2: just incredibly they've given millions of dollars over the years
- 9:44Speaker 2: to translate scripture to rescue people. And it's an incredible moment.
- 9:49Speaker 2: Like if you can be in the room, you feel
- 9:51Speaker 2: the Kingdom of God potential in the room, like you
- 9:55Speaker 2: feel the Kingdom advancing. It's so visceral, it's so re time,
- 10:00Speaker 2: it's so raw, it's so powerful, like it's it really
- 10:06Speaker 2: is like it not literally will knock you over sometimes
- 10:09Speaker 2: and you're like, I can't I can't believe. I get
- 10:13Speaker 2: to be in the room and observe this happening, let
- 10:16Speaker 2: alone be a part of like leading like that's that's crazy,
- 10:20Speaker 2: that's crazy.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Couple more questions for you before we close here, Christian
- 10:24Speaker 1: and I give us a preview of the tour. I
- 10:26Speaker 1: know Taya is going to be part of it. Well,
- 10:28Speaker 1: what's the tour going to be?
- 10:30Speaker 2: Yep, So we're going out with Taya and Levi Lusco,
- 10:34Speaker 2: who preaches it passion. He's he's preached a passion quite
- 10:37Speaker 2: a bit. He's a great friend of ours. So we
- 10:39Speaker 2: got Taya and passion music kind of like anchoring the
- 10:43Speaker 2: music parts of it. It's going to be so great.
- 10:46Speaker 2: And then Levi is going to come in there at
- 10:47Speaker 2: some point and bring bring a message. And we've been
- 10:50Speaker 2: talking a lot, you know, me and Taya and the
- 10:52Speaker 2: three of us have been talking and texting, and it's
- 10:55Speaker 2: really cool that like we all want the same thing.
- 10:58Speaker 2: Like none of us are interested in just going on
- 11:00Speaker 2: who are doing a bunch of concerts. Like I have
- 11:02Speaker 2: a family, I have four kids, I have a community
- 11:05Speaker 2: of friends. I am not interested in leaving my house
- 11:08Speaker 2: and my family to go do a show somewhere, or
- 11:11Speaker 2: to go do a concert or just play songs like
- 11:14Speaker 2: that is not if I'm leaving home, and if Taya's
- 11:16Speaker 2: leaving home, and if Levi's leaving man. We are going
- 11:20Speaker 2: in the power of God with faith in our hearts
- 11:23Speaker 2: that every city we go to, He's going to do
- 11:25Speaker 2: something fresh, something powerful, and we're we're going into each
- 11:29Speaker 2: city like seeking seeking that out. So we got music,
- 11:33Speaker 2: we got teaching, and I'm sure a couple other surprises.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Along the way.
- 11:36Speaker 2: But I hope people will come out and see it
- 11:39Speaker 2: because we really believe it's going to be a great
- 11:41Speaker 2: night of worship.
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