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Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone 10-06-25 Hour 2 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Podcast

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  Speaker 4: right now. I have so many great friends. at the
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  Speaker 4: wealth of knowledge. So we're bringing on this afternoon slash evening,
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  Speaker 4: Nina Schaefer. She is well known as a champion of
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  Speaker 4: patient choice and a robust competition in the American healthcare
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  Speaker 4: and insurance markets. Nina, thank you for carving out some
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  Speaker 4: time here on this Monday night to be with us.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: No, thanks so much for having me.
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  Speaker 1: So you wrote an op-ed. It's fascinating.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm going to just jump right into the deep
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  Speaker 4: end because I think me and you are on the
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  Speaker 4: same page here. But your op-ed highlights provisions of Social Security,
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  Speaker 4: reduce the federal match rate, emergency Medicaid service, essentially. But
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  Speaker 4: I guess the question I want to ask, a simple
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  Speaker 4: question to start us off, is if you take away,
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  Speaker 4: quote unquote, the Medicaid for illegals policy, Aren't they just
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  Speaker 4: going to show up at the hospitals anyway?
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  Speaker 1: How does that work?
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  Speaker 5: Well, the question is that the federal taxpayers have to
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  Speaker 5: fund that. So, of course, they're going to show up
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  Speaker 5: at hospitals and hospitals will treat them. But federal taxpayers
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  Speaker 5: are not going to enroll them into government health insurance.
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  Speaker 5: And that's what's at the core. Democrats, what they are
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  Speaker 5: asking for in this shutdown is totally unreasonable and way
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  Speaker 5: off target. Not only do they want to roll back
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  Speaker 5: all the great work that Congress did and the president
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  Speaker 5: signed into law, the one big, beautiful bill that was
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  Speaker 5: focused explicitly on reducing fraud, waste and abuse in the
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  Speaker 5: Medicaid program. so that the program is there for those
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  Speaker 5: people who it's intended for, not for those who are
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  Speaker 5: not eligible for the program, including illegals. They also want
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  Speaker 5: to make COVID-era health subsidies permanent. These were a response
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  Speaker 5: to when COVID broke out, people were losing their jobs.
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  Speaker 5: They needed help to pay for their health insurance premiums.
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  Speaker 5: And they stepped in and the Biden administration said, we'll
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  Speaker 5: give you some temporary assistance. That temporary assistance got extended
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  Speaker 5: in the Inflation Reduction Act. That should have been a
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  Speaker 5: warning sign for all of us that their intention is
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  Speaker 5: not to have them temporary, but to make them permanent.
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  Speaker 5: And now they're asking federal taxpayers to pick up the
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  Speaker 5: tab for $ 360 billion over 10 years to keep those
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  Speaker 5: subsidies in place. The worst part about it is those
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  Speaker 5: subsidies don't really do anything to get at the root
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  Speaker 5: causes of what the mess of Obamacare has created. And
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  Speaker 5: that's why I think it's right for Congress to find
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  Speaker 5: ways of looking for reforms to fixing what's wrong with it,
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  Speaker 5: not just papering it over with more taxpayer money.
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  Speaker 4: So when you hear progressive slash Dems talk about this,
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  Speaker 4: they swear that there are no illegal aliens who are
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  Speaker 4: signed up for any health care programs in this country.
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  Speaker 1: What do you say to that?
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  Speaker 5: Look, the Biden administration made all sorts of loopholes when
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  Speaker 5: they brought in, you know, millions of illegals coming across
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  Speaker 5: the border.
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  Speaker 1: And by making those changes.
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  Speaker 5: To how they're defined or characterized when they come into
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  Speaker 5: the country sets off a whole kind of wave of
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  Speaker 5: benefits that they're available for. So it is not true
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  Speaker 5: that they don't get benefits. And actually, the large loopholes
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  Speaker 5: that the Biden administration put in place is exactly what
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  Speaker 5: Congress tried to stop and started to claw back in
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  Speaker 5: the one big, beautiful bill, really tightening up the rules
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  Speaker 5: again so that we can get only those people who
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  Speaker 5: deserve to be on the Medicaid program on the Medicaid program.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So what do we do now? We obviously have a problem.
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  Speaker 4: We have at least 15 million illegal aliens who have
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  Speaker 4: come in over the last four years. Right. So they
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  Speaker 4: you know, they stumble, they bumble, they break a leg,
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  Speaker 4: they break a foot. They you know, they have to
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  Speaker 4: go to the emergency room. And that burden is still
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  Speaker 4: going to be on the backs of the American taxpayer,
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  Speaker 4: even now, right?
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  Speaker 5: Well, that is the problem. I think that's why also
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  Speaker 5: what the Trump administration has done to start saying we
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  Speaker 5: can't have this, the floods of illegals, our country can't
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  Speaker 5: support these numbers of people coming. That's really step one.
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  Speaker 5: And I would just say there's a lot of reform
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  Speaker 5: we need within the health care system and how we
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  Speaker 5: finance health care so that we're keeping track and we're
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  Speaker 5: holding these institutions that provide care accountable for what they're
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  Speaker 5: doing and who they're giving care to.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 4: So what just for like short term for now, while
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  Speaker 4: we do have all these people and we're trying to,
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  Speaker 4: you know, in particular, remove the criminal element and eventually
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  Speaker 4: deport folks who should be deported. Is there something that
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  Speaker 4: we can do to combat the incredible high cost of
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  Speaker 4: what it actually cost American taxpayers to fund illegal aliens
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  Speaker 4: who go into emergency rooms and get care?
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  Speaker 5: Well, certainly, I think we need to, first of all,
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  Speaker 5: make sure that we're documenting those people and where they're
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  Speaker 5: getting the care. I know that in Florida, for example,
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  Speaker 5: there were efforts to start figuring out where illegals were
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  Speaker 5: getting the care. And let's focus on identifying who these
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  Speaker 5: people are and making sure that we're keeping track and
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  Speaker 5: we're actually documenting the funding that's going to them.
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  Speaker 4: Aside from the illegals, I mean, you've done extensive research
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  Speaker 4: in this. How much Medicaid fraud is, I mean, just
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  Speaker 4: general fraud, people out there either.
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  Speaker 1: Claiming to be one thing when in fact they are not.
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  Speaker 1: Is that happening a lot?
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  Speaker 5: It is, but it's not just the individual. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I sometimes don't blame the individual. It's sometimes the people
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  Speaker 5: who are providing the services where the real fraud is. So,
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  Speaker 5: you know, an individual is one person who might try
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  Speaker 5: to claim that they're not getting benefits in one state,
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  Speaker 5: and then they go to another state and they claim
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  Speaker 5: benefits to try to maximize. But really, the way the
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  Speaker 5: Medicaid program works, it's reimbursing the people who are providing
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  Speaker 5: the services. So hospitals and clinics, Even health care providers, doctors,
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  Speaker 5: you know, there is a lot of fraud going on
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  Speaker 5: in the health care system overall. And again, I just
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  Speaker 5: echo what the Democrats want to do to roll back
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  Speaker 5: all the great changes in the one big, beautiful bill
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  Speaker 5: would do away with all the tightening of the existing
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  Speaker 5: rules that are on there. The CBO estimates that over
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  Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty billion dollars over 10 years would
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  Speaker 5: be lost if we roll back those provisions. That shows
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  Speaker 5: you the amount of fraud, waste and abuse that's in
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  Speaker 5: the Medicaid system and why we need to keep those
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  Speaker 5: in place.
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  Speaker 4: So right now it's the Democrats who are balking at
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  Speaker 4: any continued resolution. And essentially, what is it that they
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  Speaker 4: are trying to hold on to in basic form?
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  Speaker 1: What is it that they want?
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  Speaker 5: Really want to do two things. They want to roll
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  Speaker 5: back the one big beautiful bill and all the fraud,
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  Speaker 5: waste and abuse provisions that were put in there, including
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  Speaker 5: those that were targeting illegal immigration. And then they want
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  Speaker 5: to keep COVID-era subsidies in place and make them permanent.
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  Speaker 5: This is just another shell game of trying to tell
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  Speaker 5: the American people that all is great. Really, what's happening
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  Speaker 5: is Obamacare is cratering. Premiums continue to skyrocket. Deductibles are
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  Speaker 5: higher than they've ever been. We have networks that are tighter.
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  Speaker 5: People can't see the doctors they want. And they have
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  Speaker 5: fewer choices, so they don't even have an option if
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  Speaker 5: they want to move outside.
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  Speaker 1: Of the system.
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  Speaker 5: That's in what the Democrats are trying to say is
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  Speaker 5: we will just we want to keep funding Obamacare as is.
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  Speaker 5: And we're just going to pretend like everything is great.
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  Speaker 5: It's not. And I think that it's right that many
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  Speaker 5: in Congress in particular, I've heard many of the in
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  Speaker 5: leadership and House and Senate leadership saying, look, we're willing
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  Speaker 5: to talk about reforms to Obamacare, but you don't hold
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  Speaker 5: the government hostage, keeping the government open for having those discussions.
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  Speaker 5: Those are not simple solutions of just throwing more money.
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  Speaker 5: We need to get at the root causes of what's
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  Speaker 5: happening in Obamacare. And the Democrats need to make sure
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  Speaker 5: that they're willing to reopen that bill and make the
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  Speaker 5: changes that are necessary.
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  Speaker 4: From the Heritage Foundation, we're talking with Nina Schaefer. Can
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  Speaker 4: you please tell me, in your opinion, why Democrats are
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  Speaker 4: never for patient choice? Why are they always balking? They're
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  Speaker 4: against school choice. They're against patient choice. What's behind that?
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  Speaker 5: Look, you know, I think we learned a lot during COVID.
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  Speaker 5: And I think the American people's eyes were open when
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  Speaker 5: they saw what happens when you turn your health care
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  Speaker 5: decisions over to a centralized government entity. And I think
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  Speaker 5: that has been a wake up call to the American people.
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  Speaker 5: And I think they are no longer wanting to have
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  Speaker 5: what many people would say, the Bernie Sanders single payer
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  Speaker 5: Medicare for all.
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  Speaker 2: I think those days are over.
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  Speaker 5: The American people want to have a say in not
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  Speaker 5: only the doctor that they're seeing, what kind of insurance
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  Speaker 5: plan they have, but the care they're actually going to get.
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  Speaker 5: And they don't want to have it dictated under a
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  Speaker 5: government regime.
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  Speaker 4: Nina Schaefer is with us. Where can they find the
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  Speaker 4: piece that you wrote? It's up at Heritage.org. Any other
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  Speaker 4: places that they can grab it?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, at the Daily Signal.
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  Speaker 1: Daily Signal.
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  Speaker 4: I got another minute or two here with you. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think anybody's happy with health care, right? I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we all feel like we're either paying too much and
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  Speaker 4: not getting enough. Rarely are you leaving the doctor's office
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  Speaker 4: smiling because you got not only did you get the
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  Speaker 4: great care, but it didn't cost you an arm and
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  Speaker 4: a leg. I know this is an impossible question to answer,
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  Speaker 4: but is Obamacare savable?
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  Speaker 1: And if not, is there an alternative? Because the Republicans
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  Speaker 1: really haven't come up with a good alternative either.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think the problem is system wide. I
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  Speaker 5: think you start with programs like Obamacare and start to
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  Speaker 5: ratchet out what has happened there, which is really they've
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  Speaker 5: allowed the status quo to kind of take over. So
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  Speaker 5: everyone's happy with what they're getting and no one's really
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  Speaker 5: focused on the patient. We need to get back to
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  Speaker 5: what patients need and undo the monopoly that's happened in
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  Speaker 5: the health care system.
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  Speaker 4: Nina Schaefer, I cannot thank you enough. You guys at
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  Speaker 4: Heritage are fantastic. Heritage.org, type in her name, you'll find her.
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  Speaker 4: I can't, again, I really appreciate you coming on this evening,
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  Speaker 4: carving out a few minutes and giving up your Monday night.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll talk again very, very soon, but thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks for having me. Look forward to it.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great night. There you go.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So a little healthcare, a little illegal aliens, a little Medicaid,
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  Speaker 1: a little Fraud. I mean, come on. We all know
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  Speaker 1: it's happening, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So here's what we got in store for you. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to take a short break.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I wanted to.
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  Speaker 4: You guys don't mind if I play a little audio,
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  Speaker 4: do you? So one of our esteemed senators, Kennedy, who's
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  Speaker 4: a comedian half the time, he had a couple minutes
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  Speaker 4: worth of audio. It's like a minute and a half.
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  Speaker 4: It's worth playing, and I want you guys to hear
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  Speaker 4: on me and look at me, but I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: play the audio. This is Kennedy talking about some of
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  Speaker 4: the things that they took out of the budget.
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  Speaker 1: That the Democrats wanted put back in.
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  Speaker 7: And so we took out, and here's what they want
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  Speaker 7: us to put back in. We found that under President Biden,
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  Speaker 7: they were spending $ 3 million for circumcisions and vasectomies in Zambia.
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  Speaker 2: We took that out.
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  Speaker 7: The Congresswoman says, we're going to shut down government.
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  Speaker 2: Until you put that back in.
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  Speaker 7: We found $ 500, 000 of American taxpayer money for electric buses
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  Speaker 7: in Rwanda. We found $ 3. 6 million for pastry cooking classes
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  Speaker 2: I kid you not.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not making this up. It was in the budget
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  Speaker 7: under President Biden.
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  Speaker 1: We took it out.
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  Speaker 7: Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez in the socialist wing, the loon wing of
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  Speaker 7: the Democratic Party, says we're going to shut down government
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  Speaker 7: until you put it back in. I'll just read you
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  Speaker 7: a few more that we took out. They are demanding
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  Speaker 7: we put back in. $ 6 million for media organizations for
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  Speaker 7: the Palestinians. $ 833, 000 for transgender people in Nepal. $ 300, 000 for
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  Speaker 8: $ 882, 000.
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  Speaker 7: For social media mentorship in Serbia.
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  Speaker 1: $ 4.
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  Speaker 7: 2 million.
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  Speaker 2: We took it out.
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  Speaker 7: The congresswoman and the socialist wing of their party says
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  Speaker 7: we've got to put that back in for them open government.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: $ 4.
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  Speaker 1: Can't make it up. I could spend the.
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  Speaker 7: Rest of the afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: We took all that out.
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  Speaker 7: It upset Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez. It upset the socialist wing of
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  Speaker 7: her party. And now that wing of her party and
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  Speaker 7: the congresswoman are threatening all other Democrats and saying, you've
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  Speaker 7: got to shut that government down.
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  Speaker 1: Until we get what we want.
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  Speaker 7: And part of what they want is to add this
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  Speaker 7: kind of stuff back.
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  Speaker 6: Into the bill.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let me just jump in. So is that
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: not insane that that stuff is in there? And who's
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: running the Democrat side of the party?
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: It's not Schumer. I mean, he's desperately trying to hold
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: on here, right? It's AOC. AOC is in control. Believe
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: it or not, how scary that is.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez rules the rules in the Democrat Party.
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  Speaker 1: She is the most popular Democrat. Think about that for
• 19:29
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  Speaker 4: How nervous would you be if she was actually up
• 19:33
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• 19:36
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• 19:40
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• 19:44
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• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Insanity out at Americans? I mean, honestly, I never think
• 19:54
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• 19:56
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• 19:58
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• 20:01
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• 20:04
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• 20:08
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• 20:09
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  Speaker 8: Thank you very much. And thanks to Wayne as well
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  Speaker 4: But I know some of the things we wanted to
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  Speaker 1: We can get to that if you want second.
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  Speaker 4: But I wanted to ask you, because we have talked
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  Speaker 8: So, first of all, you know, what I'll say is
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  Speaker 8: that too often lately, there are no adults in the room.
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  Speaker 1: There used to be.
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  Speaker 8: It used to be we could count on our doctors
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  Speaker 8: failed us. I can finally say that because I'm retired
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  Speaker 8: as of September. And this is not an attack against
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  Speaker 8: providers individually. But if you look at the fact that,
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  Speaker 8: you know, our health care system is the most expensive
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  Speaker 8: in the world yet provides poor outcomes. You know, we're
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: not focusing on the right things because 60 percent of
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: our adolescents have chronic diseases like diabetes and hypertension. It
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: used to be 15 percent a decade or so ago.
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: So we're heading in the wrong direction. And yet the
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: focus of attention in health care now is transgender. And,
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  Speaker 8: you know, if I hear one more person at a
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  Speaker 8: congressional hearing or on TV or somewhere saying, well, it's
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: a very complicated issue, I'm going to scream. It is
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: not a complicated issue. They say, well, you know, what's
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: the definition of a woman? And then there's always that
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  Speaker 8: pause where the person is struggling with how do I
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  Speaker 8: answer that question? A woman is a person who has
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: XX chromosomes.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 8: It's not defined by breasts or cervix or any female
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  Speaker 8: body parts because they can all be taken out and
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  Speaker 8: the person is still a woman. At the end of
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  Speaker 8: the day, it is a very simple answer. A woman
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  Speaker 8: has XX chromosomes and a male has XY. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: We're done.
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  Speaker 8: There's no other, you know, I'll see my time back
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  Speaker 8: to the chairman because there is no complexity there. Now,
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: we've made it complex. We've also made it so that
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: if you say what I'm saying now, they're ready to,
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: you know, bring you to the edge of the cliff
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: and throw you off. We're being gaslit to use terminology
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: that makes no sense. And when we speak up about it, well,
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: then we're intolerant. One of the last conversations I had
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: with a leader where I previously worked, and wonderful person
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: and a fantastic doctor, and she would agree that it's
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: not great for an 18-year-old boy to be taking off
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: their clothes in a locker room with 13-year-old girls. So
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: I felt like I had won a major victory. But
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: then when I sort of talked to them about, well,
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: but they're not that trans, we say trans women. I
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: don't understand that because they're never going to.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Be a woman.
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: At the end of the day, they will never be
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: a woman. There is no way you can take an
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: XY chromosome and make it XX. That's it. And that
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: would be what you'd have to do. You can make
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: them look like a woman. You can make them feel
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: like a woman, but they will never be a woman.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: She lost it.
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: And so I thought to myself, what is wrong with
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: a physician who I know they all went through genetics classes,
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: doesn't seem to remember a very simple class about gametes, X, Y, X, X.
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: And that's when I realized we were in trouble and
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: that when you would speak up at a meeting, you'd
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: get shouted down or you'd be looked at like you're
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: a crazy person. And so, you know, for this whole
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: thing that, you know, it's the DNA stupid to coin
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: a phrase. Beyond that, it's about what people perceive and
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: how they feel. And I am never going to make
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: fun of or look down on someone who has a
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: feeling that they are different than their body. I mean,
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: that is a terrible thing. position to be in. But
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: the reality of the situation is it used to be
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: like 0.01% of the population. Now you have like mothers
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: on TV saying, my three kids are all transgender. I mean,
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: there is no way that three kids in a family
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: are transgender. So there's an illness going on here. We
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: also have data which when they've done the trials has
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: disproved their theory, and then they decide not to publish it. Well,
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: where's the AMA to say, wait a minute, guys, you
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: don't get to publish research because it agrees with what
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: your premise was.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: You've got to.
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: Publish that research. That's what we call research. That's what
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: we're doing here. And there is no real research done here.
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: They're taking 13-year-old kids and 14-year-old kids and doing surgery
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: on them. They're putting breasts in perfectly healthy male children
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: and removing breasts. Extensive surgery. You need to see the scars.
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: I've seen the scars. The scarring on the chest from
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: removing perfectly healthy teenage breasts to transition them when 30%
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: of the people in the midst of the hormone therapy
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: stop treatment because they've changed their mind or for many
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: different reasons. And post-surgical therapy, which most people don't have
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: bottom surgery, but the people who do, there's significant numbers
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: of folks who are very upset that they did it.
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: So to me, and I've said this before, any surgeon
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: that takes a 13 or a 14-year-old girl and removes
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: their breasts should be in prison. To me, that is butchery.
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: If I walked into an operation to a surgeon tomorrow
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: and I said, I want my legs removed.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: Because because I just don't like them. And they're and
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: they're upsetting to me. And I can't wake up another
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: day without my legs. Would they would they remove my legs?
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: I mean, maybe maybe today they would, but I don't
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: think so. And yet we're treating adolescent girls and boys
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: who are struggling. With with life choices. And this has
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: been going on since the beginning of time. People have
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: sort of had that gender confusion, some more than others.
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: And then they come out on the other side. So
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: to me and to be removing family from it, to be,
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: you know, having schools coaching these kids to have health
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: care systems that are going to go ahead and do
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: and do the surgery and give hormone. This stuff is permanent.
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: Like they're they're lying. And again, this is the other thing.
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: The health care community should be counted on for truth.
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: And when you can't believe when they look at you
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: in the face and they say blockers and hormones are.
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: are completely reversible when you stop them. No, they're not. No,
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: they're not.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: It's a lie.
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: And so if we're going to be doing this stuff,
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: we've seen tapes of girls saying, I wish somebody had
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: told me this. They have breasts, but they have no sensation.
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: Many of these people will never have an orgasm in
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: their life. And they're 14, 15 years old, and we've
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: committed them to that. So To me, I think it's
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: time to stand up. And I, you know, when people
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: start with the pronoun stuff and when people start with the,
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: you know, the surgery and all that stuff, I am
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: very vocal and I will be vocal to the day
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: that I die because I don't think that what we're
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: doing is right. And I think in 20 or 30 years,
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: when people look back on our generation, how we handle
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: this problem is going to be a significant, significant issue.
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: And I think medicine has fallen asleep at best or
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: has sold out at worst. And we need to get
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: organized medicine to do what they should be doing, which
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: is advocate for patients, families and providers. And they I
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: don't know who they're advocating for, but it is not
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: any of those three things.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: His name is Dr. John Foley. That was just great stuff, Doc.
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• 32:41
  Speaker 1: some of the.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: The things that they would lean on to try to
• 32:44
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• 32:48
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• 32:51
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  Speaker 2: That's PatriotCritical.com. All right, all.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. I am the voice of freedom.
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  Speaker 4: I do a morning show here in Connecticut on 94.9
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  Speaker 4: over Connecticut, Rhode Island, Long Island. I'm also, as luck
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  Speaker 4: would have it, on Patriot TV, Patriot.TV, every single morning
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  Speaker 1: So if you like what you see, and why wouldn't you? Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You can live stream early in the morning on Rumble
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  Speaker 4: also at 1 o'clock. Every day, Eastern Standard Time, an
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  Speaker 1: So check it out there.
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  Speaker 4: You can watch what's happening also on TheGatewayPundit.com, Wayne's Rumble, XGetter,
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  Speaker 4: and all those great places.
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  Speaker 1: You can go to RootForAmerica.com.
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  Speaker 4: If you don't know where Wayne is, well, he was
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  Speaker 4: in Washington, D.C., hanging out with the President of the
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  Speaker 4: United States today. That is 100% truth. So he'll have
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  Speaker 4: stories for you tomorrow night for sure. Joining us right now,
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  Speaker 4: is Dr. John Foley, who just gave an amazing, had
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  Speaker 4: an amazing, let's say, monologue about transgenders and so how
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  Speaker 4: we have enabled it.
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  Speaker 1: And as a culture, we've basically stoked that fire.
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  Speaker 4: And so, Doc, you know, we can get off that
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  Speaker 4: for a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of us are on the same page.
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  Speaker 4: The one question I did want to follow up with, though,
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  Speaker 4: really quickly on on the transgender issue is, do you
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  Speaker 4: feel like it's hit the pinnacle and now is on
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  Speaker 4: the other side? Like maybe we've seen how horrible that
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  Speaker 4: this actually is and people are wising up even just
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  Speaker 4: a little bit.
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  Speaker 8: You know, I wish I could say yes, but I,
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  Speaker 8: but I think the answer is no. And I think when,
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  Speaker 8: when you look at, um, what are hospitals doing now?
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  Speaker 8: Are they doing the surgeries? Are they doing all the hormones?
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  Speaker 8: They're doing hormones, but they're not doing surgery. People are
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  Speaker 8: kind of putting cases, I was told by someone, we're
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  Speaker 8: putting them on the shelf. So because, you know, these
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  Speaker 8: institutions can outlive presidents, right? You know, he's going to
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  Speaker 8: be there four years and who knows who comes in next. And,
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  Speaker 8: you know, I think that they'll just ratchet right back
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  Speaker 8: up to where they were before. It's becoming really a
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  Speaker 8: religion and a dogma to some in government and, you know,
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  Speaker 8: our You know, really, when you talk about the cabal, right,
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  Speaker 8: you know, you're talking about the press and you're talking
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  Speaker 8: about some of the leaders in the progressive movement. And again,
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  Speaker 8: the most disappointing thing to me is that the doctors,
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  Speaker 8: the people who used to be the adults in the
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  Speaker 8: room are no longer doing that. They're going along with it.
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  Speaker 8: They're aiding and abetting. No one forces a surgeon to
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  Speaker 8: remove healthy breast tissue. on a teenage girl. No one
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  Speaker 8: does that. If that 14-year-old girl wanted to have her
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  Speaker 8: gallbladder out because she was having gallstones, she couldn't sign
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  Speaker 8: permission for it. Yet she could, at 14, sign for
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  Speaker 8: an abortion. And she could also sign up for... transgender
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  Speaker 8: surgery and hormones. I mean, what's going on? And so this,
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  Speaker 8: it used to be the attack on government on families
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  Speaker 8: used to be sort of like one of those things
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  Speaker 8: we talked about as, you know, it was happening, but
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  Speaker 8: it was sort of behind the scenes. They are very upfront.
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  Speaker 8: They have told us what their what their agenda is
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  Speaker 8: and they are surgically and otherwise going to do it
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  Speaker 8: unless we stop them. And so I do believe it
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  Speaker 8: is our responsibility to stop them and to, you know,
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  Speaker 8: to have organizations reaching out to hospitals, demanding to know
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  Speaker 8: whether they're doing certain procedures and what the ages of
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  Speaker 8: the people are. I mean, we have our 26 year
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  Speaker 8: old kids on our health insurance, right, because they're not
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  Speaker 8: supposedly mature enough to maintain their healthcare. And so we
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  Speaker 8: pay for it till 26. At 13, you could have
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  Speaker 8: your complete organs in your body like flipped around. You know,
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  Speaker 8: if you were to tell me that this was going on,
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  Speaker 8: I didn't know it was actually going on. I would
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  Speaker 8: think this is a Stephen King book or movie. It's
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  Speaker 8: a nightmare. And so I think the thing that we
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  Speaker 8: all can do is stand up and and confront this
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  Speaker 8: and not be polite about it, not be polite about it.
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  Speaker 8: We can't be mean to people who are going through
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  Speaker 8: it at all. But we can be mean to the
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  Speaker 8: doctors and to the hospitals and to the health care
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  Speaker 8: systems because if they continue to do this, they're guilty
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  Speaker 8: of the same crimes.
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  Speaker 4: I think we've crossed the line of sorts. I do think,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like this, maybe I'm wrong, but I do
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  Speaker 4: feel like most of the people out there realize that
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  Speaker 4: they have made this gross error, this grotesque error in
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  Speaker 4: just assuming that because somebody says that they're a female,
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  Speaker 4: they are a female. I saw a great sort of interview.
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  Speaker 4: Girl on the street was talking. She had a black
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  Speaker 4: man with a rainbow sweatshirt on and she had asked
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  Speaker 4: him a question. She asked him, whether or not she
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  Speaker 4: was a man and he waffled with the answer. Then
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  Speaker 4: he asked her if she was, if she identified as black,
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  Speaker 4: would it be okay?
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  Speaker 1: And he was a black man and he had to
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  Speaker 1: say no to that.
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  Speaker 4: So, I mean, I think that some, in some cases,
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  Speaker 4: maybe that was a bad example, but I do think
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  Speaker 4: that in the general sense, I think people are coming
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  Speaker 4: around to this doc. So, I appreciate your honesty on
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  Speaker 4: all of this. Unfortunately, I don't think we're going to
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  Speaker 4: have time to get into anything else, but I got
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  Speaker 4: to say, you know, having you on is a breath
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  Speaker 4: of fresh air with the honesty.
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  Speaker 1: We love it. Your first national appearance really is a
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  Speaker 1: home run, man. So doc, I thank you. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: The music is playing.
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  Speaker 4: We're out of time, but we'll, we'll definitely do this
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  Speaker 4: again next time on mom on for Wayne.
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  Speaker 1: I'll definitely have you back. We can talk about some
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  Speaker 1: other stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks to Wayne and to yourself. This was a great opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: All right, brother.
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  Speaker 3: Dr.
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  Speaker 1: John Foley, great stuff.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't have a book out yet, doesn't have a
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  Speaker 4: podcast yet, but we're working on that behind the scenes
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  Speaker 4: to make sure he gets out there.
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  Speaker 1: Again, a truth spreader, and we need that desperately.
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  Speaker 4: Wayne is back tomorrow night. Thanks to the boys in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks to the boys at Patriot.TV. You guys have a
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  Speaker 4: great Monday night. Until tomorrow when Wayne is back, enjoy
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