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- 0:29Speaker 1: Enjoy your exploration. Jay, I got to tell you something.
- 0:32Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you for listening to your mother,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and perseverance is when the path isn't easy. And this
- 0:36Speaker 1: has definitely been one of those paths where you get
- 0:38Speaker 1: a lot of naysayers, but man, you have kept growing.
- 0:42Speaker 1: I mean, you just keep unveiling, and I just love
- 0:46Speaker 1: following you, dude.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you.
- 0:49Speaker 2: It's crazy for me as a guy that's lived in
- 0:52Speaker 2: the shadows all my life to be out so close now.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, when you're living in the shadows like that, though,
- 0:58Speaker 1: I mean, to me, that's like the guitarist that goes
- 1:01Speaker 1: on to become the lead guitar in Led Zeppelin or
- 1:03Speaker 1: Van Halen. I mean, you're in there working on something
- 1:06Speaker 1: at all times, and you're getting that so-called 10,000 hours
- 1:09Speaker 1: in so that you can come out as a genius.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Exactly. And here I'm like, Guitars, too. So maybe I'll
- 1:17Speaker 3: hit both at one point.
- 1:18Speaker 2: But, you know, I felt like all these years, the
- 1:23Speaker 2: 16 plus years investigating the UAP and non-human intelligent life
- 1:26Speaker 2: for the government, that it was too much of a
- 1:28Speaker 2: responsibility to not come out and be public and tell
- 1:31Speaker 2: the world what I know, the stakes, and how it
- 1:34Speaker 2: impacts us all.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Why is it that all of a sudden when we
- 1:38Speaker 1: change it to UAP, then everybody starts jumping on board?
- 1:42Speaker 1: But when it was a UFO, it was like, ah,
- 1:45Speaker 1: you guys don't know what you're talking about. But what
- 1:47Speaker 1: is it about the UAP?
- 1:50Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:51Speaker 3: So I changed that. I'm the one that made it
- 1:54Speaker 3: UAP versus UFO.
- 1:56Speaker 2: And a key reason for that was because UFO– you
- 1:59Speaker 2: know thanks man uh you know ufo comes with this
- 2:02Speaker 2: connotation a little green man right people immediately jump to
- 2:05Speaker 2: that uh and ignore everything else and then you get
- 2:07Speaker 2: the stigma and the ridicule factor and everything that comes
- 2:10Speaker 2: from the the whole little green man uh and and
- 2:13Speaker 2: i knew as the guy had worked this for a
- 2:15Speaker 2: long time in the government and we transitioned we were
- 2:17Speaker 2: transitioning to this new uap task force that i was
- 2:20Speaker 2: building that i had to have a new name for
- 2:23Speaker 2: it and this is obviously before the UAP task forces,
- 2:26Speaker 2: I was building it because the UAP is in the name.
- 2:28Speaker 3: But, uh, the, the reality that I knew was.
- 2:32Speaker 2: If I was trying to get into Congress to the
- 2:34Speaker 2: white house or anywhere else with a quote unquote UFO
- 2:36Speaker 2: briefing that I wasn't going to be taken seriously. And
- 2:39Speaker 2: if I rebranded this into something new and they actually,
- 2:43Speaker 2: it's a much better and encompassing term because these UFOs are, were,
- 2:47Speaker 2: were thought of as nuts and bolts flying craft, uh, UAP,
- 2:52Speaker 2: you know, uh, Unidentified anomalous phenomena brings in the fact
- 2:57Speaker 2: that these things transition from seabed to space, transmedium, and
- 3:01Speaker 2: really aren't just flying objects.
- 3:04Speaker 3: They are a lot more than that.
- 3:06Speaker 2: You have everything from these triangles, like the first one
- 3:09Speaker 2: I saw, to these spheres, all of the different shapes and.
- 3:14Speaker 3: Things that are seen.
- 3:16Speaker 2: It really does a better job of catching all of
- 3:18Speaker 2: that and getting Congress and everybody taking it seriously.
- 3:23Speaker 1: So what is it about when we see a UAP
- 3:26Speaker 1: or what we think is one and all of a
- 3:27Speaker 1: sudden it changes our life forever? Because I'm from the
- 3:30Speaker 1: state of Montana with that big old sky up there.
- 3:32Speaker 1: And I swear that the second that we were up there,
- 3:35Speaker 1: up there by the Dead Man's Basin was what the
- 3:37Speaker 1: lake is. And that all of it, I was never
- 3:39Speaker 1: the same ever again. And I think it's because at
- 3:42Speaker 1: that moment I said, there's nothing I can do as
- 3:44Speaker 1: a human that can be greater than what I just saw.
- 3:48Speaker 3: I agree.
- 3:48Speaker 2: I think that once once people start paying attention and
- 3:51Speaker 2: it's like anything else, you know, you get into something
- 3:54Speaker 2: and now.
- 3:55Speaker 3: You're seeing it everywhere. You're paying attention to it.
- 3:57Speaker 2: And the more people who are looking up and paying
- 4:02Speaker 2: attention to what's going on, more people starting to see things.
- 4:05Speaker 3: And they are this this activity is present. This activity
- 4:10Speaker 3: is frequent.
- 4:12Speaker 2: And the more and more people that are paying attention
- 4:13Speaker 2: to it, and for me, the more and more the
- 4:16Speaker 2: government is paying attention to it and taking it.
- 4:18Speaker 3: Seriously is what I really wanted.
- 4:20Speaker 2: Because back to 2005, when I first started working this
- 4:25Speaker 2: as a defense intelligence agency, no one was taking it seriously,
- 4:28Speaker 2: and my predecessors had ignored it. And we have a
- 4:31Speaker 2: very valid aviation safety and security concern that That was
- 4:36Speaker 2: my job, you know, to keep the nation safe from
- 4:39Speaker 2: things flying over and NORAD and everybody else, right, the
- 4:42Speaker 2: North American defense aspects of this.
- 4:45Speaker 3: And everybody was ignoring it because it looks weird.
- 4:47Speaker 2: You know, if you slapped a Chinese star or a
- 4:50Speaker 2: Russian flag on the side of these things, people would
- 4:53Speaker 2: be freaking out and going crazy.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:55Speaker 2: But because they don't have that and it looks different,
- 4:58Speaker 2: people ignored it. And that's really the system I fought
- 5:01Speaker 2: against to try to get us where we're at today,
- 5:02Speaker 2: where now we have a real government organization, a permanent
- 5:05Speaker 2: one called AERO, the Alderman Anomaly Resolution Office, that does
- 5:08Speaker 2: this for a living. This is their job to take
- 5:11Speaker 2: these reports and try to make sense of them.
- 5:13Speaker 1: The name of the book, Out of the Shadows. We'll
- 5:15Speaker 1: be right back talking about UAPs with Jay Stratton. If
- 5:20Speaker 1: you're into UAPs and if you've looked up into the
- 5:22Speaker 1: sky and you've experienced one, then you've got to get
- 5:25Speaker 1: your hands on this book, Out of the Shadows. We
- 5:27Speaker 1: are back with Jay Stratton. I can't be the only
- 5:30Speaker 1: one that sits here reading your book. I mean, really
- 5:33Speaker 1: reading your book. And I have highlighters because I love
- 5:35Speaker 1: I love highlighting what you say because you're so God,
- 5:38Speaker 1: my God, you say such prolific things. But then it
- 5:41Speaker 1: hit my heart. What happens if there was a nuclear war?
- 5:44Speaker 1: Because it seems like we're throwing that word around like
- 5:46Speaker 1: you wouldn't believe. I've never seen it before in my
- 5:48Speaker 1: life like that. And all of a sudden I'm going,
- 5:50Speaker 1: I bet you these UAPs are going to sit there
- 5:52Speaker 1: and say, that's my planet now. They just screwed it up.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Right.
- 5:57Speaker 2: You know, The key aspect and concern is I don't
- 6:00Speaker 2: know the intent of the non-human intelligent life that's here.
- 6:02Speaker 2: That should make everybody stop in their tracks and think
- 6:05Speaker 2: about it. Because after all of these years of looking
- 6:08Speaker 2: at it, I still don't know what they're doing. And
- 6:09Speaker 2: they're absolutely fascinated with our nuclear weapons, our nuclear sources,
- 6:15Speaker 2: you know, from submarines to aircraft carriers to nuclear missile silos.
- 6:20Speaker 3: And they have.
- 6:22Speaker 2: activated and deactivated these things. They have shown us that
- 6:25Speaker 2: they can do that. And not only just us, the Russians. So,
- 6:30Speaker 2: and in all of that, right, think of the diplomatic aspects.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Are we talking close enough with the Russians these days
- 6:36Speaker 2: like we were during the Cold War to know whose
- 6:40Speaker 2: technology this is, because you have this risk of miscalculation.
- 6:44Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons why I wanted this to
- 6:46Speaker 2: be as overt as possible. I wanted to, I told
- 6:49Speaker 2: the news, you know, the public affairs side to put
- 6:52Speaker 2: out there that we don't know what these are. They
- 6:54Speaker 2: are unidentified because Anything that we're seeing over the United States,
- 6:58Speaker 2: over Washington, D.C., the same thing is being seen over Beijing,
- 7:02Speaker 2: the same thing is being seen over Moscow. And I
- 7:04Speaker 2: guarantee you Beijing and Moscow are saying it's the Americans,
- 7:07Speaker 2: just like the people here are saying it's the Russians
- 7:09Speaker 2: or the Chinese. So we had to be overt in
- 7:12Speaker 2: saying we don't know what these things are, and let's
- 7:14Speaker 2: try to communicate better as a species so that we
- 7:18Speaker 2: don't lead to.
- 7:19Speaker 3: Our own destruction anymore.
- 7:21Speaker 2: Because of a miscalculation of what we're seeing and dealing with.
- 7:24Speaker 2: So these UAP over nuclear missile sites and missile silos,
- 7:28Speaker 2: that should be a key aspect and concern for a
- 7:32Speaker 2: lot of people.
- 7:33Speaker 3: And the fact that we don't know why they're doing it, right?
- 7:35Speaker 1: I love the way that you bring in your family history,
- 7:38Speaker 1: because it dates all the way back to 1744. I
- 7:40Speaker 1: am a history fanatic, and I believe that we don't
- 7:42Speaker 1: know about today without knowing yesterday. And the fact that
- 7:45Speaker 1: you talk about Squire Boone I was charged up, and
- 7:48Speaker 1: that's such a great place to put it right there
- 7:50Speaker 1: in the beginning because now it gave me motivation and
- 7:53Speaker 1: an understanding of where we were going to grow.
- 7:58Speaker 3: Exactly. That pioneer mentality like I talk about.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Yep, yep.
- 8:04Speaker 2: And I hope it doesn't come off as too egocentric
- 8:07Speaker 2: or anything else, but I truly felt like I was
- 8:10Speaker 2: the pioneer trying to keep the government on target, on
- 8:14Speaker 2: path to tackle this greatest mystery of humankind and try
- 8:19Speaker 2: to understand it. And it really, really frustrated me, as
- 8:22Speaker 2: you can imagine, when I learned in that process about
- 8:25Speaker 2: this hidden legacy program that probably has a lot of
- 8:28Speaker 2: the answers that I needed.
- 8:29Speaker 3: And I'm the guy that's going over to Congress You know, over.
- 8:33Speaker 2: To the White House to brief this stuff, and they've
- 8:35Speaker 2: shut me out of a lot of the information. And
- 8:37Speaker 2: the analogy I like to use is, like, pre-9-11, it's
- 8:40Speaker 2: this office that understood Al-Qaeda inside and out, but they're
- 8:43Speaker 2: not talking to anybody else in the government, and then
- 8:46Speaker 2: 9-11 happens. I mean, that's the situation we're in. You know,
- 8:49Speaker 2: the stakes are pretty high, and we've got to— It's
- 8:52Speaker 2: a transparent– we're supposed to be a government by the people,
- 8:55Speaker 2: for the people. And right now, even the president is
- 8:58Speaker 2: shut out of this information. Congress is shut out of
- 9:00Speaker 2: this information. The American people as a whole is shut
- 9:03Speaker 2: out of this information. So I am fighting for that transparency.
- 9:06Speaker 2: And the truth about this is going to come out
- 9:10Speaker 2: if the gatekeepers want it. want it or not i
- 9:13Speaker 2: mean it's gonna happen we're just gonna keep pushing.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Through your leadership man you got to come back to
- 9:17Speaker 1: this show anytime in the future jay the door is
- 9:20Speaker 1: always going to be open for you i mean 10
- 9:22Speaker 1: minutes with you is just barely scratching the surface dude.
- 9:25Speaker 3: Thank you thank you so much man i love that
- 9:27Speaker 3: you love
- 9:27Speaker 1: It will you be brilliant today okay sir yes sir
- 9:31Speaker 1: thank you