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The Motorsport Brief: Garth Tander · Rusty's Garage

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A listener production.
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Welcome to the Motorsport Brief.
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I'm back after a break.
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Good timing.
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It's race week in Tassie for supercars and a key member of their broadcast team has come back on for a preview.
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G'day everybody, Rusty here for another edition of the Shortcast.
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Garth Tander is standing by to talk Simmons planes, Enduros, Silly Season and more.
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We've released a whole bunch of episodes in the past month too.
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Feature eps with Alistair McRae, son of the legendary British Rally Championship star Jimmy McRae and brother of the late Colin McRae.
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Al's own story is excellent, including his son now, Max McRae, taking on Europe, rallying over there and seemingly on the same path.
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And some recollections of the weapon, the ex-possum born WRX that Alistair has.
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driven too.
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That's a nice one.
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There is a two-parter in there with Calvin Fish as well.
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Now, if you don't immediately recognize the name, let me tempt you to listen.
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Commentator for IMSA Sports Cars in America.
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You'll know him as the expert voice alongside Lee Diffie at the Le Mans 24-hour over the years and the Daytona 24-2.
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But Calvin's junior career saw him race alongside Etten Senna and Martin Brundle.
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Some awesome backstories in that one, including...
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playing Space Invaders, or Galaga I think it was, against Senna, and how it was a window into Senna's competitive side.
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Let's get straight to GT, we haven't spoken to him for a while.
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He will be on the mic for the Ned Whiskey Tasmania Super Sprint this weekend on Fox Sports and Sky in New Zealand, and not long before he pulls that helmet back on for the Enduros with Penrite Racing.
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Hello mate, welcome back to the garage.
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Thanks mate, thanks for having me back on.
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fittingly, we find you sitting in a car.
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Where the heck are you in the world?
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What are you doing?
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It's the lifestyles of the glamorous at the moment.
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So everyone's, oh, supercars, you know, especially you work in TV.
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It must be glamorous lifestyle.
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This week, I'm on the supercars, he knows supercars tour through original Victoria.
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with Aaron Noonan, and he's got this program going with Hino, that we are doing three sportsman's nights through regional Victoria.
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So we did SAIL in eastern Victoria, Bendigo, and Ballarat all this week in the lead-up to Tassie coming up this weekend for Super Cup.
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literally on tour and with your commentary colleague, Neil Crompton, there would have been some great old stories there, I would imagine.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We had, um, had Neil join us, uh, in Bendigo, uh, which was fun because, um, uh, as you know, Rusty, what you've got to do is you've got to strike early.
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And, and if you're going to give each other a hard time, you've got to get in first.
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So he was actually, um,
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It was random.
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We got called out onto the stage.
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Aaron brought us out on stage.
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And Neil couldn't get the microphone working.
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And he literally couldn't figure out how to turn it on.
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I was like, come on, cheese.
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All these years.
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You've been in this broadcasting game for a little while now.
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Surely you know how to turn a microphone on.
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So that's what I opened with.
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And the punters loved it.
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No way we went.
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Excellent stuff.
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They're great those nights.
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And if people listening haven't been to them before, I'm sure Aaron will do some more as the season and even next year goes on, get amongst it.
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Observations from you, if we can, of the season so far.
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So, I mean, obviously losing your Bathurst winning –
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co-driver in SVG to the United States.
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But I think as Chad Nalon said to me offline recently, it's been like this arrival of the new wave of youngsters.
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Do you feel like that and that there's been some good stories there?
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Oh yeah, there's clearly been some good stories.
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Obviously, at the start of the year when Will Brown jumped from Erebus to Red Bull Triple 8, everyone was like, oh gee, how's Will going to go there?
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You know, different team, different environment to Erebus.
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And Brock Feeney's obviously been there a couple of years and it's sort of his team and
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So Will turned up, stuck it on pole at the very first race meeting and sort of marked his intentions from there.
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And so at the start of the year, we saw this great battle between the two Red Bull guys in Brock and Will.
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And it sort of seemed like, wow, no one's going to catch these two.
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It's like they're going to win the championship just by how much.
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But as the years progressed, they've been very un-triple-eight and they've had a couple of weekends in a row where performance hasn't been what we'd expect from them.
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And Chas Mostert and Walkenstra and Dredda United have,
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sort of come on strong and Cam Waters started disastrously, but he's been super fast.
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And then the emergence of Matty Payne.
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So there's been lots of storylines throughout the year.
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And he sort of has me sit here one round to go prior to the endurance races.
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There's a lot of chat about
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Can Red Bull hang on?
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Is the Chas threat real?
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Can Chas Mostert bounce back?
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Can Matt Payne win more races?
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Is there anyone else that's going to come out of the pack?
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Nick Burkett at Matt Stone Racing has been very strong.
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So there's been heaps to, I mean, you know, in the TV world, there's been heaps to talk about because there's plenty of players in the game.
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Can I pick up on two things that you said there?
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Firstly, the likelihood that Matt Payne can deliver more.
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I mean, I thought he's done so far some brilliant things there.
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And then the Mostert and WAU thing, I think, seems real.
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They're going to be good in the back end of this year, aren't they?
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Yeah, they are.
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They've been absolutely real.
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They've had a couple of rounds, though, like Darwin, for example, on the super soft tyre, where they came off the back of Perth and absolutely blitzed everyone, and speed-wise.
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So you'd expect, oh, wow, they're going to go to Darwin and be strong.
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But on the super soft tyre, they were nowhere.
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Like Chas qualified outside the top 20 in both races.
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Recovered pretty well in the races, but didn't have the one lap speed.
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And we go to Tassie this weekend on the super soft tyre.
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And if you don't qualify, if you qualify outside the top 20, you're not going to get yourself back in the game at Tassie.
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Such an important factor qualifying strongly.
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Is it real?
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We'll find out at Tassie this weekend.
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And I was actually asked in the broadcast at Sydney, can they win the championship?
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On speed, yes.
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I think they have the speed to win the championship.
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But when it comes down to,
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you know, real championship battle, like real hardcore, you know, going at it, grinding it out.
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And it becomes not just a game on track, it became the game off track with the head games and the teams getting involved about executing pit stops and just executing under pressure.
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You've got to remember, Triple Eight have been doing that year in, year out for the last 15 years.
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And the last time that the Walkinshaw...
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group won a championship with what I won in 2007.
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So it's been a long time since they've been in that championship hunt and been championship hardened.
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So on speed, yes, they can win.
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But can they do it when the pressure's really on as a team unit?
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We'll find out.
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Cool.
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One of five events to go.
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As you say, last stop before the Enduros.
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Garth, I can't throw stones because I'm talking to you from New Zealand, but it is going to be cold there.
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I think it starts around six or seven degrees in the morning, but the Bureau says highs of maybe 18 degrees.
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And did I see that there is the chance of some showers too?
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Is that right?
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Yeah, there's some chance, particularly on the Friday.
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So we've only got a one-half-hour practice session on Friday, and then there's another practice session Saturday morning.
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So the highest chance of rain is Friday, which the teams, you know, they'll run in the wet if it's wet because it is Simmons Plains and the weather is fickle down there and it does blow in very, very quickly.
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So if there's Saturday, they're saying there's about a 60% chance of one to five mil of rain.
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So that could be in Tasmania, particularly at Simmons Plains, 100% chance of 10 mil of rain or 100% chance of no rain whatsoever.
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Because it is literally on a plane down there.
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You know what it's like, Rusty?
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It's in the middle of this big, flat land mass.
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So the weather can blow in pretty quickly.
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You said it's going to be cold.
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It's actually not going to be as cold as everyone sort of thought it might be.
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So if it's 16, 17 degrees, as long as it's not blowing a gale, it'll actually be quite pleasant.
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Yep.
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We've had a little giggle there, but in real terms, mate, it's a fantastic ball ring.
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The fans turn up in droves because a bit like New Zealand, they love it down there.
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You've talked about tyre for the weekend and so on.
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What about a couple of little other things that fans need to be mindful of around Simmons Plains?
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And I think,
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Craig Lowndes talked in his column for Supercars this week about timing from the team around people on track at the key moments of qualifying and racing and so on.
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Yeah, look, it's a challenging place.
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You were saying how well the event is supported, and it is really well supported in Tasmania.
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And these events like New Zealand, like Tasmania, like Darwin –
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like Perth, because we only get to those sort of far, further away destinations once a year, they will support it.
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It's Tasmania's biggest sporting event of the year when supercars come to town.
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So there's always great support down there.
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The track itself, everyone sort of looks at it and goes, oh, it's short.
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Oh, it needs to be longer.
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There's only three or four real corners.
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But I like that about it.
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I like the fact that it's so challenging.
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There's only really three corners.
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That's in those planes.
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There's three very different types of corners.
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And because it is a short lap and the lap time's around the 51-second mark, you have to get those three corners absolutely perfect.
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Perfect.
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And if you don't get it right, you get penalized heavily because the times are so close.
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So if you make a small mistake at the hairpin at turn four, for example, and lose a tenth of a second, that's the difference between qualifying second and qualifying 14.
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So you get massively penalized if you don't get it right.
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So I like the challenge of that at Simmons Plains.
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One of the real challenges this weekend, even though it is, we did say 16, 17 degrees, it's going to be tyre temperature in qualifying.
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So it's going to be about making sure you got the right tyre temperature, particularly the front tyre, with the right track position.
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So getting yourself in the right position, and that's probably a little bit about what Craig was talking about in this column, about the timing side of things.
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It's lining up your car position on track.
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the time left to go in the session, the tyre temperature being right where it needs to be, and then maximising that opportunity in the session because qualifying is so important.
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So I love it.
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It's high-intensity racing.
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There's not a lot of tyre degradation, so you can drive the car really hard all the way through the race.
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So that means that the drivers make more mistakes.
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So it's always something going on at Tassie.
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It's always really exciting.
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Final stop before you jump back behind the wheel too.
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You're looking forward to Sandown and Bathurst.
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We touched on Matt Payne there before.
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Clifford, as the team now call him, he just keeps getting better, doesn't he?
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Yeah, he does.
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He's doing a really good job.
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He's got a huge amount of natural talent.
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He's got a very, very good...
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Very impressive feel for the car and he's a very different, you mentioned Shane Van Giesbergen who I used to drive with.
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He's a very different character to Shane, but he's got very similar traits in his feel for the car.
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Okay.
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And he's got this innate feel of what the tire is doing and how the tire is reacting underneath him, if you like.
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And Shane was very similar like that.
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It's something that you can't really teach
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It's something that you can't really feel or learn.
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It's just something that you have.
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And Matt's very similar to Shane in that respect.
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That's probably the only similarity to Shane in that respect.
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They're very, very different characters.
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But Matt's doing a very good job.
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And he's also learning this year how much work you have to do outside of the car.
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Because...
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He's been very successful in karting.
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He's been very successful in all the junior categories in the run up to supercars.
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But when you get to supercars, there's 24 drivers and there's 24 champions.
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They've all had success on the way up.
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So when you're racing in the junior category, there's only three or four drivers that you really have to race against.
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But in the main game, everyone's had success.
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That's why they're in the main game.
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So he's just now starting to realize how much work you have to put in.
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prior to the event, how much preparation you need to do.
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And I think that's as we're now seeing as a result of the work that he's learning that he has to do through this year, as he gets better at that, the performances are starting to become stronger and stronger on track as well.
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which is good news for me, Rusty.
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Absolutely.
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I mean, are you enjoying all that still?
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And do you sort of feel a bit like Craig, that you'll just keep going in an endurance mode as long as you enjoy it?
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Or do you have in the back of your mind a plan of other things you would like to do before it gets too far down the track?
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I don't really have a timeline set on the driving thing.
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I'll keep driving as long as the team finds that I'm beneficial from an engineering point of view, from a leadership point of view, particularly within the team.
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Going forward with, you know, Matt this year only being 21 and...
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And then next year with Kai Allen joining the team, who's only just 18.
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So, you know, if they feel that there's some benefit with me driving-wise, with my experience, then I'll keep doing it as long as... One, I'm fast, and two, I'm enjoying it.
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Three, I'm beneficial.
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But then also, I'm doing more and more stuff in the background with Grove Racing or Penrith Racing as well.
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So the driving aspect of what I do with the team now is actually probably the smaller aspect of...
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what I do and so I'm enjoying I enjoy driving the cars still enjoy the challenge of jumping into the test day and trying to beat the main game guys and being faster than them straight away so still got a bit of a few competitive bones in my body mate good the Kai Allen thing was a huge coup as you say a lot of talent coming in at a young age what's the kind of thing you reckon he needs to do over the next six months or so just to prep himself for that that big step
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Yeah, look, it's a big step from the Dunlop series to the main game.
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And anyone that's made that jump in the past has really, I don't know if underestimated the jump, but has really just not expected the level of intensity that's in the main game.
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And you could be racing for 22nd in the main game and it's the hardest race of your life ever.
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So just, you know, for him, just understanding that...
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I mentioned before, Kai's had a lot of success in the junior categories, in the Dunlop Super 3 category when he first started in a supercar, and then obviously won the Dunlop Super 2 championship and is leading the Super 2 championship this year.
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But in realistic terms, there's only six, seven cars.
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until you compete against.
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And that was what I was talking about earlier in those junior categories.
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So the intensity is not, you know, a bad day in the Dunlop series is you qualify eight.
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A bad day in the main game is you qualify last.
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So that's a big difference.
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So it's a big difference mentally getting your head around that.
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So it's more the mental preparation.
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It's more just understanding and respecting the championship before you get there.
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But Kai's an impressive young man.
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I've spent a bit of time with him in the past.
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and since the announcement.
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And his head's very, very firmly screwed on his shoulders.
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He knows what challenge he has ahead of him.
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He also understands that if he's successful this year in the Dunlop Series, he'll be the only back-to-back Dunlop Series champion.
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But that puts a little, you know, even though you're a rookie coming into the main game next year, the main game guys will not make it easy for him.
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So he also respects that that's going to be a challenge.
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So that's the work that will happen over the summer break.
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You know, he's still got to deliver.
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He's got to go and he's driving for the opposition at Sandown and Bathurst.
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He's driving for Shelby Power Racing.
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He's still got his Dunlop Series Championship.
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And the final round of that is at Adelaide.
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And once all that's locked away, then we'll look to start to ramp up his preparations ahead of next year's championship.
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We'll sneak a quick break here on Rusty's Garage.
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More with Garth Tander in just a few moments.
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For this episode of the Shortcast, we're joined by Supercars commentator and five-time Bathurst 1000 winner Garth Tander with the Enduros just around the corner.
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Can he add a sixth title to that tally?
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Solid chance in that Penrite Racing Mustang with Matt Payne.
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Let's get back to the convo now.
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a couple of listeners asking just about engine performance, Ford v Chev.
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From what you've observed with all that hard work that's gone in from supercars and so on, do you feel like that's closer, that's better?
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Oh, it's really hard to judge from the outside, Rusty, because some weekends you look at it and you go, oh yeah, it looks really, really close.
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And some weekends you look at it and it's one way or the other, whether it's Chev or it's Ford.
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So the work that supercars are doing at the moment on the AVL Transit Dyno in the US is world's best practice.
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We saw, you know, I think that the work that the category did over the summer break last year in the wind tunnel looks to have fixed any aero issues between the two cars.
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And the same will be true of the engines once this dyno testing is done.
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I mean...
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I actually, last year, when I was watching the championship before I actually raced in the championship at Sandown, I thought, oh, it actually doesn't look that bad, the Ford thing.
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And then I jumped in the car and lap four up the back straight at Sandown.
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I was like, holy smokes, the Ford engine's a long way behind, the Chev engine.
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So you don't really know until you're in it.
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So it's hard for me.
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Yeah.
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You know, we're hearing less and less about the engine things.
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Yes.
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And that's generally a pretty good indicator of, you know, the guys that are driving them week in, week out are speaking less about it, and that's a pretty good indicator.
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Lots to play out in terms of the driver market, the silly season too, mate.
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I think that'll be a lot of conversations around that between now and the end of the year.
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I would like, in a kind of fan sense, to think that Richie Stanaway might find a seat when the music stops.
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Do you think that he can?
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And what do you reckon there?
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Yeah, I hope so.
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I certainly hope so.
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You know, there's been a lot of chat since the announcement that Richie and Penrite Racing won't be together next year, that he wasn't given a fair chance and all the rest of it.
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But Richie knew going in that it was only a 12-month deal.
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And it just hasn't worked.
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And it hasn't been results-based.
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It's just been, you know, the relationship, the gelling of parties, you know, the driver-team relationship just hasn't gelled.
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So that doesn't mean that it won't gel somewhere else.
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And certainly the position from the team I know with Richie was that, although we're not going to be working together in 2025, we would love nothing more for you to have success in the remainder of 2024 to give you the best opportunity for next year to get yourself a seat, hopefully full-time, but even in a co-driver role going forward.
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So look, I hope that he does land.
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On the grid in some capacity, there's a huge amount of talent in there.
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You can see it in the data, but for whatever reason, it just hasn't come out this year.
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So, yeah, look, for me personally, I'd love to see Richie racing.
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It just hasn't worked out at Penright Racing, but that's not to say it won't work somewhere else.
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Let's hustle through the final few here.
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Been broadcasting for a while now and doing a terrific job of that with Supercars TV.
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How are you finding it there?
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And did you enjoy doing the kind of expert role in the Bathurst 12 Hour alongside Richard Crayle?
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I thought you flew there and that that combination was awesome.
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That was a little addition to the CV.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, look, I really do enjoy the broadcast stuff.
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I still very much feel like I'm the apprentice kid in the broadcast world.
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And I'm mindful of the fact that I'm not a broadcaster.
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I didn't grow up going to any media school.
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I've done no formal media training.
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So I'm not you, Rusty.
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I don't have that formal background.
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So therefore, I don't try and be...
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that type of broadcaster.
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I'm very much a driver that gives his opinion of someone that's been in the paddock for 25, 26 years.
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So from that point of view, I really enjoy it.
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I try and stay relaxed and just don't get too wound up about it all.
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And the feedback that I get is that it comes across that way, which is nice to hear.
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So yes, I do enjoy it.
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The 12-hour stuff is great, and I treat it like laps.
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It's like when you're a race car driver, the more laps you do, the better you are, right?
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Yep.
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So what better way of getting more laps than doing a 12-hour race, doing a 12-hour stint?
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So sitting with Richard Crale and John Hindolf from Radio Le Mans for 12 hours is...
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is really cool.
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And obviously, I've driven those cars quite a bit, the GT3 cars that race at the Bathurst 12, where I've driven them a lot.
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And so I've got a lot of experience with those cars and that race.
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So, yeah, it's good laps, Rusty.
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It's good testing and good preparation for just any opportunity that you get to sit in the comms box.
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Keep being you because that comes through and it sounds terrific.
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Karting with family, how's all that going?
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Busy.
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I sort of really now retrospectively respect what my parents did for me.
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Yeah, we do a lot of racing.
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The kids really enjoy it.
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I enjoy it.
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People sort of say, oh, you know, does he want to be the kids?
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And both my kids, my daughter Scarlett and my son Sebastian, they're both braves.
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And they, oh, is there, you know, is either I'm going to be a supercar driver or go to Formula One.
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And that's not the grand plan.
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That's certainly not the grand plan.
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The reason we started karting and still remains to this day is that.
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I still have very fond memories as a teenager spending my weekends with my parents.
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Cool.
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And that was away karting.
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So, you know, rather than being off partying or hanging out with your mates at the shopping center or, you know, just generally being a troublemaker somewhere, I was with my parents spending time doing what I obviously loved, karting.
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And so I wanted to try and replicate that with my kids.
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And, um, like my 13 year old daughter, Scarlett, she's 13 going on 25.
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So, um, she, I know, don't worry.
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I know.
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You've seen her in action.
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So, um, she, you know, spending the time in the car with her.
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Driving to the track, whether it's a country race or hanging out at the racetrack in the kart trailer in between races, is really, really special time.
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And if they're having a great time on the racetrack or they're having a great time at the track with their friends as well, that's just a benefit.
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So karting teaches you, any motorsport teaches you a huge amount of resilience because you have more bad days than good days.
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It teaches you you have to work hard.
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It teaches you a lot of things other than driving fast.
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So that's the stuff that we go carding for.
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It's not so much that, you know, one day they want to be, well, Sebastian wants to be the next Xavier Gisberg and he's not that interested in being in the next Valter Tander.
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perspective.
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I love it.
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Great bonding time for you.
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Let's finish with SVG.
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Have you been keeping an eye on him?
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What do you reckon?
23:17
He's going super well there, isn't he?
23:20
I watch some of his races.
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When he crashes, I tell him he's useless.
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When he wins, I tell him he's going okay.
23:26
So we still have a lot of banter over text.
23:29
Oh, look, it's, you know, I am not surprised that he's going as well as he is because, you know, I was fortunate enough to be very close to him for three or four years as a teammate.
23:42
Yeah, does doing a really good job, particularly on the ovals.
23:45
I mean, you think about a lot of the ovals that he turns up to.
23:47
One, never seen the joint, let alone driven it.
23:51
Some of the races this year have been washed out in practice.
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So the first time he either drives a car is in qualifying.
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Sometimes qualifying's been washed out, and the first time he drives a car on the track he's never seen before is in the race.
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And he's still troubling the top 10 in the Xfinity series.
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So...
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pretty impressive and everything you read about the people that are in NASCAR, heavily impressed about what he's doing.
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So, you know, he hasn't said anything to me officially, but certainly hope that he can stitch together a main game, you know, a cup ride next year full time.
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And you think about, you know,
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Probably just over 12 months ago, it was just that one-off race at Chicago to where he is now, being in a conversation to being in the main game full-time.
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Pretty impressive rise.
24:33
Very impressive on his work there, but we hope it's just as impressive for you behind the wheel for the Enduros.
24:38
Keep giving him heaps.
24:40
Go well behind the wheel at Sandown and at the Mountain and give those broadcast colleagues of yours plenty of stick this weekend.
24:45
Enjoy the Apple Island.
24:47
Thank you for chatting to us today.
24:49
Cheers, Rusty.
24:51
He is fantastic, isn't he?
24:52
Great currency that he brings to the coverage.
24:54
And having dealt with him for years now, I promise you that it's the same Garth Tander on camera, on television, that you get in a pod chat like that or one of those fantastic nights for fans that the sleuth...
25:06
Noons has organised over time, or even if you meet Garth Tracksider, as I know many of you have done.
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Before we go, I'm off to the Singapore Grand Prix again next month, so we'll aim to get some pods turned around for you there, a bit of F1 flavour.
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And Emma Gilmore is chatting to us next week, back rallying after that massive crash in Extreme E, another leading light for women in motorsport in this part of the world who works, as you'll hear, in automotive too.
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Oh, and an email just through...
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We finally look like nailing down the goat, Ricky Carmichael.
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I've been promising that.
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I know he's been away and so have I.
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Keep an eye out for notifications on that in the weeks ahead.
25:45
And don't forget the new addition to the Rusty's Garage offering, what we're doing around today.
25:51
supercars events i step back and just let the drivers take over the studio it's called drivers only it is fantastic different panel of drivers each time they're all currently on the grid and conversations that are unlike anything that you've probably listened to elsewhere search for it in our garage library at listener or wherever you get your pods that is it from me for today thank you for listening it's good to be back bye for now