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20 - Joan of Arc · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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  Speaker 1: But first we're going to get our source. On today's episode,
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  Speaker 1: it's all about Joan of Arc, because why not. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's time and sources. We have the Trial of
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  Speaker 1: Joan of Arc. That's the transcript from fourteen thirty one.
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  Speaker 1: I also have the Trial of Joan of Arc on
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  Speaker 1: Famous Trials dot com. Oh yeah, that's my new favorite website,
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  Speaker 1: Joan of Arc by La Pacelle, and also Biography dot com,
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  Speaker 1: History dot com, Historyextra dot com, and the Smithsonian dot com.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get to it. Let's start from the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: shall we. So in France, the One Hundred Years War
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  Speaker 1: was raging. It started in thirteen thirty seven and it
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  Speaker 1: was basically between the House of Plantagenet and the House
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  Speaker 1: of Lancaster, who ruled England, and the House of Volois,
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  Speaker 1: who felt they had the right to the Kingdom of
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  Speaker 1: France and Bank smack in the middle of this conflict.
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  Speaker 1: Joan of Arc was born in France in fourteen twelve,
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  Speaker 1: and you know what, frankly, it's it's good to actually
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  Speaker 1: have a year of birth. I'll take it. Her parents
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  Speaker 1: were Jacques Duck and Isabelle Romi I were farmers in Doublemy,
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  Speaker 1: northeast France. Her parents were peasants and farmers, and she
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  Speaker 1: never learned to read or write, because it wasn't really
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  Speaker 1: necessary for you know, a pauper to actually have to
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  Speaker 1: read write. But she learned, you know, basically things like
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  Speaker 1: taking care of animals and learning to sew, although this
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  Speaker 1: would be more like practical sewing as opposed to the embroidery,
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  Speaker 1: which sort of noble women would learn. So she was
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  Speaker 1: actually born Jeannette, but usually went by Jean as Jean
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  Speaker 1: Lapacell or Joan the Maid. So when Joan was thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: she started to have these what's somethm It referred to
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  Speaker 1: as auditory hallucinations, and she was sort of worried and
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  Speaker 1: scared with him at first, but then she starts trusting
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  Speaker 1: these voices, and one voice tells her, you know, to
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  Speaker 1: be a good girl and go to church often. Later
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  Speaker 1: she starts having visions. So she sees the archangel Michael,
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  Speaker 1: Saint Catherine and then Saint Margaret, and.
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  Speaker 5: They show up and they basically tell her that she
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  Speaker 5: is the savior of France, and she has to go
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  Speaker 5: to the heir to the French throne, the Daupin Charles, and.
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  Speaker 1: She has to get him to basically kick the English
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  Speaker 1: out of France. Joe, And she really really believes in
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  Speaker 1: these visions. She believes that she is, you know, having
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  Speaker 1: the whole metatron thing and talking to the archangels. And
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  Speaker 1: so she travels to I'm gonna butcher this pronunciation vo
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  Speaker 1: collel in may Of and she speaks to Robert de Boudrocour,
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  Speaker 1: who was the garrison commander and a supporter of the
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  Speaker 1: Dauphin Charles, and he, you know, didn't really want to
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  Speaker 1: let this what sixteen year old I think at the
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  Speaker 1: time go speak to the heir to the French throne,
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  Speaker 1: but he changes his mind when she manages to come
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  Speaker 1: back the following January with two of body Corp's soldiers
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  Speaker 1: supporting her, along with a bunch of townspeople, and he's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: if she's gaining this much support, sure you can have
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  Speaker 1: an armed escort to take you to the royal court
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  Speaker 1: at SnO and she manages to make a prediction about
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  Speaker 1: the Battle of Rouvre. I have definitely pronounced that wrong,
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  Speaker 1: which she somehow knew because of divine grace. Now, knowing
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  Speaker 1: that she now has to go meet the Dopin, she
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  Speaker 1: decides to chop her long, dark hair off short and
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  Speaker 1: dress in men's clothes. And one of the reasons she
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  Speaker 1: actually wears men's clothing is it's actually would be safer
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  Speaker 1: for her to travel as you know, someone who looks
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  Speaker 1: like a man as opposed to a teenage girl traveling
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  Speaker 1: across France. But anyway, it takes Joan and her entourage
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  Speaker 1: about eleven days to finally land in she none where
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  Speaker 1: Charles and his court were. Now he decides to play
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  Speaker 1: a trick in her, and he hides in the crowd
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  Speaker 1: and acts like he's a normal member of the court,
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  Speaker 1: and she literally points him out and she's like, yep,
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  Speaker 1: that's you. She wears Wally's and she's like boom, there
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  Speaker 1: you go, even though she'd never actually met him before.
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  Speaker 1: And Charles is kind of like, there's something weird here.
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  Speaker 1: He's a bit weary of her, and I think he's
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  Speaker 1: like twenty six at this point and she's seventeen, I think.
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  Speaker 1: And so he's like, get my theologians to look at her,
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  Speaker 1: and so they do and they're like, now, she's fine.
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  Speaker 1: She's just devout and pretty single minded. So she manages
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  Speaker 1: to meet the Dauphin and then wows him with information
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  Speaker 1: from her visions. So she manages to recite a prayer
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  Speaker 1: that he was secretly silently thinking of, and was also
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  Speaker 1: able to tell him the whereabouts of a sword that
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  Speaker 1: had been hidden behind a church's altar. Wooh spokey. So
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  Speaker 1: Charles and his mother in law, Land of Aragorne, they
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  Speaker 1: decide they're going to have this relieve the expedition to
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  Speaker 1: our law, and so Joan has to ask permission to
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  Speaker 1: go along and to go with the army, and has
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  Speaker 1: to ask permission to have armor. So then a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of people actually donate items for her armor, her horse,
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  Speaker 1: her banner, her sword, and a bunch of other items
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  Speaker 1: utilized by her entourage as well. And you have to
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  Speaker 1: remember at this point they have had a humiliating defeat
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  Speaker 1: after defeat after defeat, and so they're like fuck it
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  Speaker 1: at this point, Yeah, why the fuck not. You can
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  Speaker 1: go do your thing, girl. Let's see how we got on.
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  Speaker 1: So she joins the battle in arly On, and she's
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  Speaker 1: on the front lines and the French actually managed to
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  Speaker 1: take control of the English defenses in a series of
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  Speaker 1: battles and then John she gets injured, but when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to the final charge, she actually returns to the battlefield,
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  Speaker 1: and this is where she actually gets the nickname that
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  Speaker 1: made of Orleans. But you know what's really really interesting
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  Speaker 1: is that she never actually kills anybody, Like, not one
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  Speaker 1: person does she kill. She doesn't really engage in battle,
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  Speaker 1: but she was more like this symbol and she was
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  Speaker 1: there to sort of encourage and inspire the soldiers, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean she held the banner and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but also you know, helped with war strategies, and she
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  Speaker 1: did she did suggest some sort of peace making solutions
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  Speaker 1: to the English, which obviously they fucking rejected. And this
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  Speaker 1: is the thing as well, like this is not the
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  Speaker 1: last time she gets injured in the midst of battle.
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  Speaker 1: So at one point she gets an arrow in her shoulder. Actually, no,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's both shoulders. She gets shot in each shoulder,
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  Speaker 1: but at different times she gets a crossbow bolt in
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  Speaker 1: her thigh, and she falls from a siege ladder, and
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  Speaker 1: she gets hit in the head with a fucking rock.
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  Speaker 1: So the Dauphin, Charles and Johan are basically good buddies
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  Speaker 1: at this point because she is a very amazing symbol
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  Speaker 1: for France. She is a point of inspiration, so she
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  Speaker 1: keeps encouraging him to go get crowned king, to have
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  Speaker 1: his coronation. And when he does actually go and do it,
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  Speaker 1: what does he have but the living embodiment of the
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  Speaker 1: symbol of France next to him, Joan. She is right
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  Speaker 1: by his side when that crown is laid upon his
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  Speaker 1: head in July fourteen twenty nine. It is then that
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  Speaker 1: the newly coronated King Charles the Seventh sends John to
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  Speaker 1: deal with the Burgundians in early fourteen thirty. So there's
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  Speaker 1: a battle, and like Joan, who apparently is more accident
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  Speaker 1: prone than Wiley Coyote when he's chasing road runnerli like, so, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she's in the midst of this fucking battle, gets thrown
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  Speaker 1: from the horse, and then she has left the town
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  Speaker 1: of Compience Gates. So what happens, well, what do you
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  Speaker 1: think happens. She gets taken hostage by like the townsfolk,
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, we're gonna start negotiating her release
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  Speaker 1: because she is a valuable commodity. But they don't negotiate
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  Speaker 1: with the French. Oh no, they negotiate with the English
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  Speaker 1: because the English were like, this is valuable propaganda, like
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  Speaker 1: because of course, of course they know this. So they
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  Speaker 1: manage to buy Joan of Arc from the Burgundians for
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  Speaker 1: ten thousand francs and frankly, this is basically the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of the end for Joan. So while she's been taken
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  Speaker 1: prisoner by the Burgundians, she becomes incredible anxious, like really
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  Speaker 1: really fucking anxious, to the point that she jumps from
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  Speaker 1: a tower in the castle where she is being held, which,
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  Speaker 1: you know, some people think it's because she was trying
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  Speaker 1: to escape, but the other option is that she was
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  Speaker 1: trying to end her own life. Which is a weird
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  Speaker 1: thing to do for somebody so devout. So while this
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  Speaker 1: ransom situation is going on, King Charles the seventy is
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  Speaker 1: suspiciously absent during this. He is distancing himself from Joan because,
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  Speaker 1: in fairness, he got what he wanted. He was now
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  Speaker 1: king of France. He didn't really need her anymore, and
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  Speaker 1: he didn't try and intervene. He didn't try and stop
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  Speaker 1: this from happening, or pay ransom, or try and retrieve
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  Speaker 1: her or have her released ani anyway, And when the
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  Speaker 1: ransom was paid and she was handed over to the
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  Speaker 1: English Church officials, he did nothing but kill's surprise. So
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  Speaker 1: the trial, so there was like seventy counts filed against
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  Speaker 1: her in total, and these included witchcraft and heresy and sorcery,
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  Speaker 1: which to me just sounds like witchcraft with a different title,
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  Speaker 1: but okay, and kind of like when you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: like bulk up an essie and you're like it was
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  Speaker 1: white and chalky and pale and devoid of color, and
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like just trying to fill
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  Speaker 1: it up. But anyway, and one of the other counts
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  Speaker 1: was dressing like a man. Now, this one's going to
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  Speaker 1: be important later on. So, while Joan is on trial,
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  Speaker 1: this tribunal questions her like almost twelve times over like
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  Speaker 1: a month in early fourteen thirty one. But she always
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  Speaker 1: claimed to be innocent of all the charges against her,
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  Speaker 1: and she's being held captive in this military present, and
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  Speaker 1: she's still denying any guilt, like she's still standing up
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  Speaker 1: for herself and still saying that everything she said is correct.
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  Speaker 1: And while she's in this prison, she is threatened with
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  Speaker 1: torture and abuse and even rape, which we really shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be surprised at because she's a nineteen year old girl
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  Speaker 1: in a military present. But for all the claims against her, parisee,
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  Speaker 1: She's like, nope, fuck this for a game of soldiers.
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  Speaker 1: God has always been my lord and all that I
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  Speaker 1: have done direct coate there, You're welcome. So one of
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  Speaker 1: the things they try and do is they try and
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  Speaker 1: say that, like the voices that she was hearing were
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  Speaker 1: not the voices of angels, but just the voices of people,
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  Speaker 1: Like they wanted to say that people were telling her
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  Speaker 1: to do this, and that she had heard other people
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  Speaker 1: and had mistaken it, and she's like, no, the voices
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  Speaker 1: were angels. They were messages from God, because I am
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  Speaker 1: a fucking prophet. Behold a lot. She didn't say it
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  Speaker 1: like that, but she was saying that the voices were angels,
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  Speaker 1: that she saw the angels, and she heard the angels,
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  Speaker 1: and they were fucking angels. They were angels, not people. Eventually, though,
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  Speaker 1: drawn the crack start to show and it all gets
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  Speaker 1: a bit much, and she does break. And she has
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  Speaker 1: offered life imprisonment if she admits that she's guilty, and
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  Speaker 1: if she signs this document basically recanting that you know,
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  Speaker 1: she was having visions, basically stating that she's not a
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  Speaker 1: profit anymore and that this was all just something else,
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  Speaker 1: and she has to sign this document confessing her sins
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  Speaker 1: and pledging to change her heretical ways. But like a
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  Speaker 1: few a few days later, Joan puts the male soldier's
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  Speaker 1: clothing that she was just wearing. She puts that back
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  Speaker 1: on instead of anything sort of womanly clothing. So the
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  Speaker 1: question is, was that the only clothing was available to
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  Speaker 1: her or did she somehow sneak in her male soldier
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  Speaker 1: clothes and put that on. That's huh. But anyway, so
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  Speaker 1: she does that, she's in her regalia, she's in her gear,
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  Speaker 1: and she starts claiming to hear voices again, and the
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  Speaker 1: judges of this trial and the tribunal are livid, they
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  Speaker 1: are mad, but they already have a document stating that
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  Speaker 1: she is confessed her sins and blah blah blah. So
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  Speaker 1: the only crime they actually pin on her, they do
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  Speaker 1: call it her a relapsed heretic, but that's not the
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  Speaker 1: crime she's actually convicted of. The crime she's convicted of
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  Speaker 1: is cross dressing, like that's the official thing, although part
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  Speaker 1: of it was probably just they wanted to destroy the
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  Speaker 1: symbol of France, and part of it was just you know,
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  Speaker 1: general sexism because obviously, but she gets charged with cross
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  Speaker 1: dressing and that's the reason they burn her at the stake.
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  Speaker 1: So her execution, the stake is set up at the
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  Speaker 1: marketplace in Ruin, and there's about ten thousand people showing
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  Speaker 1: up to watch her, you know, be murdered and burned alive.
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  Speaker 1: So the very last words in this nineteen year old's life,
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  Speaker 1: the last word she said it was Jesus okay. And
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  Speaker 1: so the lighter up, I'm assuming it was an excruciatingly
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  Speaker 1: painful death, as burning is supposed to be. And because
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming being engulfed by flames was probably not a
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  Speaker 1: great way to go. And would the smoke inhilation get
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  Speaker 1: her first? I don't Would you die from shock or
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  Speaker 1: the burning or the smoke? What would kill you first?
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  Speaker 1: When burned at the steak? What? What actually kills you?
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  Speaker 1: That's if there's a metician who knows the answer, please,
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  Speaker 1: I'd let me know. It would be great an anthropologist.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I don't know. So after she is you know,
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  Speaker 1: dead and appropriately flown bayed, an English soldier says that
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  Speaker 1: you know they're lost. Shit, we've burned a saint. And
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  Speaker 1: there's a legend, Oh my god, there's a legend that
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  Speaker 1: basically says that even though she was you know, grilled,
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  Speaker 1: her heart survives the blaze intact Like, there are a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of reasons why this could happen, But I think
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  Speaker 1: it was her heart, lungs and intestines didn't burn, so
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  Speaker 1: they actually cremated them two more times. So she was
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  Speaker 1: burned effectively thrice thrice and then thrown into the river.
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  Speaker 1: But what really was Joan seeing? So like modern day psychologists,
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  Speaker 1: they believe that Joan's visions were just like auditory and
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  Speaker 1: visual hallucination and what caused it, whether it was some
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  Speaker 1: form of schizophrenia or genetic epilepsy which like effects like
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  Speaker 1: a certain part of the brain, we don't know. Because
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  Speaker 1: we don't we can't travel back in time and check it,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But yeah, it is what
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  Speaker 1: it is. And and like she lived, she was born,
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  Speaker 1: she lived, and she died during the Hundred Years' War.
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  Speaker 1: So the Hundred Years War is still going on and
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  Speaker 1: it actually continues for another twenty few years after she dies,
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  Speaker 1: and Charles the seventh he manages to keep his crown
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  Speaker 1: and his throne and he orders this investigation regarding you know,
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  Speaker 1: Joan's death. In fourteen fifty six, she is cleared of
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  Speaker 1: all the charges laid against her, and she has declared
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  Speaker 1: a martyr, and a couple hundred years later she's sort
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  Speaker 1: of seen as a saint, and she actually gets canonized
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty and is now the patron Saint of France.
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  Speaker 1: It's nice when a patron saint is actually from the area,
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  Speaker 1: because like Joan of arc is the patron Saint of France,
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  Speaker 1: Saint George is we're seeing George w He's from somewhere else.
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  Speaker 1: Nears the patriots of England. Saint Patrick is the patron's
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  Speaker 1: Aint of Ireland, but he's something else. Was he Scottish?
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  Speaker 1: Was he from Cumbria? Was he Welsh? We don't fucking know.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody knows, but it is what it is, and that's
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  Speaker 1: absolutely fine. So because Joan was Joan, a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: people thought that she hadn't actually burned at the stick,
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  Speaker 1: like she survived somehow, And so these impostors start popping
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  Speaker 1: up all over the place. Now one of them is
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Claude de almo Was. I like to call her Claude
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the Fraud because I found that really really funny because
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I like rhyming and puns. So Claude the Fraud is
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: actually looks quite a bit like Joan, Like a lot
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: of John's the Foe Jones, they sort of show up
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: and they don't really look like her, but you know,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Claude does. And she actually leads soldiers, and she can
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: ride horseback and a bunch of stuff that like other
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: people couldn't do back then. And so basically she meets
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: up with Joan's brothers and oh, so the rumor is
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: either either they convinced they were convinced that she was
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Joan or it was a scheme they all had together,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: so it's one of the other Wader know eh. And
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: so she found goes and meets King Charles, and King
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Charles thinks it to Joan, and Claude just suddenly, for
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: some reason, in front of the King grows a conscience
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and decides to actually tell them that no, she's not
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: actually Joan, she's Claude. And then Claude bugges off, gets
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: married or goes back to her husband, and we don't
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: really hear from her again. And since her death, Joan
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: of arc has become a symbol. I when she she
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: was a loving symbol and is now a dead symbol,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: but continuously symbolic. And she became like an icon for
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: feminism and women's writes. And strangely enough, she was the
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: inspiration for the flapper style bob initially, so like that
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: was the inspiration, and so she's inspired this look. And
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: there are makeup looks and things that are based around
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Joan of arc and I'm pretty sure there's like I
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: think that was a TV show, Joan of Arcadia. Oh
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: my goodness, Wow, forgot about that. So there's a bunch
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: of stuff based on her, And can I kind of
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: lived through the Ages. So that's the that's the story
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: of Joan of Arc. What did we learn today, Well,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: we learned that if you help him money, get a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: thrown and he's still going to let you be burned
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: to death. Super absolutely fun there and no that's a
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: that's all I got for you, So recommendations. What am
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I watching? Listening? Reading? Okay, listening to. I actually started
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: listening to Southern Fried True Crime. I actually quite like
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: her voice. It's pretty soothing actually, So that's my podcast
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that I'm currently listening to. I sort of sweitch up
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: between currently the small Time Murderer, Crime in Sports, my
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: favorite murderer, Southern Fried True Crime and She Done It,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: which is a it's based on mystery writers and stuff
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: like that. That is a soothing voice. That is a relaxing,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: soothing voice to get you to sleep. And watching. I've
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: watched the finale of The Falcon in the Winter Soul
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Jery was so good. It was so good, and I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: quite like having a an ambiguous character here and there.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: It's pretty fun. So watching, listening, reading, I'm actually not
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: reading anything this week for once, I'm not reading anything
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: because I've been too busy. I really should read more often.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing it this time. It's a shame. It's
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a terrible shame. Actually, before I go, I want to
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: mention that I saw somebody on TikTok make hash browns,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: but they soaked the potato in Guinness. And I don't
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: even like Guinness. But honestly, I think this is worth trying.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: And I'm still mad the potato TikTok is not called
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: tato talk because you've missed a trick there, I'm just saying.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: But with that being said, I am actually gonna go
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: because my throat is getting very sore. But I am
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: going to go, and I shall chat to you next week.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Adios or of where is there my friends? Bye bye