Latest / What Do You Call It? Podcast! / KEVIN ANTON talks The Iron Claw, Harley Race, Gotham, Dead Ringers, Sean Penn, Sinners & more
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- 0:06Hello and welcome to another episode of What Do You Call It
- 0:11Podcast. I'm Your host GB.
- 0:15Today's guest is an actor known for his work across films and
- 0:18television, including appearances in Gotham and the
- 0:21critically acclaimed wrestling drama The Iron Claw.
- 0:27Please welcome Kevin and Kevin AB mate, you're good.
- 0:31Hello. Yeah, I'm all good man.
- 0:34You know, over here in the East Coast of the US.
- 0:37So yeah, it's, it's still still a little cold here, but we're
- 0:41we're expecting spring pretty soon.
- 0:44Nice mate, actually in a bit the same boat you, even though we're
- 0:47across the pond, you know, dance size, the world, it's actually
- 0:51Owen. But we are expecting some
- 0:53sunshine soon, hopefully by Easter.
- 0:55So fingers crossed mate. But what I'm going to do before
- 0:59I discuss Gotham, your other filmography, what I want to know
- 1:04what first inspired you to pursue acting and how did your
- 1:07journey begin? Yeah, yeah.
- 1:11So thanks for the question. I mean, I think I've been doing
- 1:14it like, you know, since, I mean, ever since Star Wars,
- 1:17right? I mean, ever since I saw Star
- 1:18Wars I, I've always that kind of inspired me.
- 1:22So like, you know, throughout grammar school I did, you know,
- 1:24small plays. Then like in high school, I more
- 1:29just like sports, you know, obviously playing, you know,
- 1:31baseball and then college more sports, baseball and rugby.
- 1:37And then like, I guess like, but I always, I was always still
- 1:40doing it and still like doing something creative.
- 1:42And I guess like my sophomore junior year in college, I just,
- 1:46I was like, this is what I want to do.
- 1:47And then, you know, I graduated, worked a few years like doing 9
- 1:52to 5 sales job, then quit that, moved to New York City and
- 1:55started studying at the, at the Lee Strasberg Theatre Institute.
- 2:00And from there, I just, you know, was just full on, you
- 2:03know, working in, like, restaurant jobs and just doing
- 2:06what every actor does but, you know, and just trying to make it
- 2:09so. Yeah.
- 2:11That's fair, mate, that's fair. Having transitioned from the
- 2:14theatre in New York City and then to film and TV, what do you
- 2:19miss most about performing live? I mean, see, I, I, it's, it's a
- 2:26good question, but like for me, I kind of like, I kind of
- 2:29approach it the same way. Like, because like when you're
- 2:32on set, right, like there's you, there's really like 50 people
- 2:35around you anyway, you know, from like, you know, costumers
- 2:39to just everyone. So I mean, just in terms of like
- 2:42the way I see it, it's everything's a performance, even
- 2:45like doing like self tapes, like auditions, like I, I kind of
- 2:49approach everything like a like a, a play even that way, you
- 2:54know, a lot of doing live theater, obviously you get that,
- 2:56that, that instant gratification and that's great, you know, and
- 2:59there's more of a community and stuff like that.
- 3:02But I, I kind of like approach it the same way, you know, I
- 3:07mean, it's, I don't, it's how about I miss it?
- 3:10It's just, it's all the same to me.
- 3:12It's all that just like becoming a character and and moving the
- 3:15story forward. So, you know, I know some people
- 3:18think, you know, they love the theater and don't like film and
- 3:21TV or the opposite. To me it just messes into one
- 3:25thing. No, I actually don't understand
- 3:27that. To be fair, I know different
- 3:30audience stuff, but essentially it's the same thing.
- 3:33Isn't it fun of a live crowd but not always a crowd?
- 3:36It might be like TV with a crowd, but then you are working
- 3:39for Live Crew, camera crew production.
- 3:42You know, like you said, they're costume designers and there's
- 3:45just so much production elements to it.
- 3:47And you also have to learn lines.
- 3:49You know you're doing that both in theatre, films and TV.
- 3:52It's true. I can do it myself.
- 3:55I've got terrible memory. But now that I actually applaud
- 4:00you for it, you know, the fact that you've worked across the
- 4:03vast different genres from Gotham to Iron Claw, how do you
- 4:07prepare to mentally shift from these roles?
- 4:10I know we talked about, you know, the similarities between
- 4:13theatre and acting, but for each role that you take and then you
- 4:16switch from one to another, how do you do that personally as an
- 4:19actor? Just a lot of prep like from the
- 4:22moment, like I guess even from like before your even cast, like
- 4:26from the moment I get the sides to audition right from that
- 4:29moment on like, and this is completely true.
- 4:32Like the characters in me, I just read the lines and I've
- 4:36already started creating the character.
- 4:37Even if I'm not like doing it, then I'm doing some other kind
- 4:41of work. It's just in in my mind.
- 4:43So I don't know, it's just a process that like I just I just
- 4:49don't stop thinking about it. It doesn't overtake my life.
- 4:52But like it just you they say in film you're supposed to like
- 4:56play like, you know, Kevin Anton as a cop.
- 4:59So you're not like, you know, you're not becoming this like
- 5:02different, you know, outrageous character.
- 5:04You, you, you, you're putting yourself into the character.
- 5:08So I guess just preparing, you know, every role is different,
- 5:11especially playing someone like Harley Race, that's way
- 5:13different because he was a real person, right?
- 5:15So you got to get a lot of stuff, you know, you got to get
- 5:19a lot of stuff right, because you actually existed.
- 5:22Whereas you know, something like Gotham or like dead ringers or
- 5:25something like that, you know, you're, you're actually, you
- 5:26know, creating these characters, you know, for the first time
- 5:28usually so. That fair.
- 5:31We'll touch on Harley Race, by the way.
- 5:33But I mean, that performance, it was speechy before, for it was a
- 5:36real stand of the film. But what was it like stepping
- 5:39into the world of Gotham? So which already has such a rich
- 5:43legacy in the DC universe? Yeah.
- 5:47Gotham, Gotham was great. I mean, that was that was a
- 5:50great experience. It was just, you know, I mean,
- 5:55it was epic show. You know, I think the episode I
- 5:58shot was work where Butchy the the character Butchy hadn't
- 6:03become like his his evil part yet, but like the Penguin was
- 6:07just like running for mayor and he was starting to come up, but
- 6:09he wasn't really the Penguin yet.
- 6:11So I mean, it was just a really cool experience.
- 6:13Great set, great directors, you know, real, real.
- 6:18And then shooting in New York, right?
- 6:19I mean, just shooting on location in New York, just like
- 6:22the best, you know? That's cool, man.
- 6:25That's cool. Going to touch on Iron Claw, as
- 6:28I mentioned in the intro. And then yeah, yeah.
- 6:30Yeah, please, please. Yeah, yeah.
- 6:32First of all, what was your reaction from when you first got
- 6:36involved with the iconic film, now the Iron Claw?
- 6:41And then you got to portray the wrestling legend Harley Race.
- 6:47Yeah, so I, I, I really didn't know a lot about Harley Race
- 6:51that much beforehand. So, and this is a true story.
- 6:54Originally my agent gave me the sides to read an audition for
- 6:59the role of Bruiser, Bruiser Brody.
- 7:01Oh, really? That was never going to happen
- 7:03because no, no, no, but, but, but just like that was never
- 7:06going to happen. What actually happened was Sean
- 7:09Durkin, who had then Dead Ringers, who wrote, directed and
- 7:12produced Iron Claw for what I understand already had me in
- 7:15mind. That was just like, you know, it
- 7:18was just like a put him on tape. So just the whole like getting
- 7:25that and then the prep work and then, you know, shooting.
- 7:31We shot in in Baton Rouge, LA, right.
- 7:35And actually, I think two or three weeks before I came down
- 7:40the chute, that monologue that I did that, that speech from
- 7:43Harley, Sean actually didn't write that in the script yet,
- 7:47but he emailed me and said, Hey, dude, I'm, I'm going to, I'm
- 7:50going to add this to the script. I'm going to have Harley do like
- 7:52a little promo. It's not in the script yet, but
- 7:55here's like a YouTube video of it and hear the lines it's going
- 7:59to be in. But this is it.
- 8:01So from then on, dude, I just like I ripped that video from
- 8:05YouTube of Harley doing that and I took the audio and I put it on
- 8:11my on my iPhone and I just played it through and through
- 8:15every morning for hours, going on a walk anywhere I went.
- 8:19So I mean, when I was sleeping, I constantly had like part that
- 8:25that particular promo we did in my mind and the cadence and all
- 8:31that stuff. So that's one of the ways like I
- 8:33prepared other stuff like that, you know, that's.
- 8:38About you Embrace Harley race. He's got such a distinct voice.
- 8:42You know he's loved by wrestling fans and you know he's a he's a
- 8:46pioneer and there that voice does it's got screen.
- 8:49I mean, I'm not going to, you know, continue my bad impression
- 8:53with him. No, no, that's cool because
- 8:56like, you know, like I said, I really didn't know a lot about
- 8:58Harley Race until, you know, I got the role and I researched
- 9:03him, but also Chavo Guerrero, the legend Chavo Guerrero, he
- 9:07was our our, you know, stunt and and wrestling coach.
- 9:10So I remember we were waiting in this little like little small
- 9:13kickboxing arena on a highway in Baton Rouge.
- 9:17We're waiting for Zach to come, that guy from and Shabo was
- 9:21telling me these stories about Harley, about how Harley used to
- 9:24drive his car, Hollywood Drive, and he would have a guy in the
- 9:29passenger seat who just opened beers and gave his beers.
- 9:32That was his job. Not even joke.
- 9:34So they went from place to place to place and I just kept
- 9:37absorbing everything Shabo was telling me about him.
- 9:40You know about, you know how he acted, how you know how in real
- 9:45life really was that tough. And that really helped out a
- 9:47lot, even though we only maybe 1520 minutes really helped me a
- 9:51lot. And I kind of felt like, you
- 9:53know, Shabo gave me for the first time.
- 9:54I, I think I kind of felt I got his approval too, because I
- 9:58mean, think about Shabo was a legend and Shabo knew the guy
- 10:01personally. So you know.
- 10:03Got the approval and it was such a tough role, but for me, Reed
- 10:06was a standout. What was it like working Zac
- 10:09Efron, by the way? How was he?
- 10:12Great, awesome. I mean, you know, that was that
- 10:14was one of the highlights of my career was awesome that that one
- 10:18particular fight scene took like 14 or 15 hours to shoot.
- 10:23And I've been kidding. It was that long And and Zach
- 10:26and I were there the entire time.
- 10:28I mean, we were just in and out of the ring, like literally
- 10:31doing takes. I mean, we were like drenched in
- 10:33all that's real. Like none of that's like faked.
- 10:36It's all happened on like, so they built this moratorium ring
- 10:43to scale. Like that's what you see is
- 10:46exactly what the way it looked. So he was great, you know, super
- 10:49talented, obviously super in shape, super dedicated to the
- 10:54role too. Just a really, really good guy.
- 10:57So I mentioned about the film being pretty, claimed it got
- 11:00rave reviews from critics and fans.
- 11:03But for you personally as your performance as Harley Race,
- 11:08what's the reception that you received yourself from, you
- 11:11know, maybe your colleague, even though it's an investment
- 11:13business? It's, it's been, I would say 99%
- 11:19positive, right? I mean, like I, you know, I
- 11:22don't, I like really, really positive reviews.
- 11:27I think maybe one rest or Kevin something, I don't know his name
- 11:30said like I, I don't know, but for the most part, everyone, you
- 11:37know, really liked it. Even Harley's son, Justin Race,
- 11:41who actually just mentioned to me today on Instagram.
- 11:43We we talked back and forth. He really liked it.
- 11:45So I mean, you know, really, really, you know, good, good
- 11:53vibes. I also think like a lot of
- 11:55people don't even recognize me too when they see me because
- 11:57like I had that beard and I think I looked a lot different.
- 12:00So like, you know what I mean? Like even at the screenings, we
- 12:03went to a bunch of screenings and I don't think people even
- 12:05realized like, I was even playing Harley.
- 12:09No, seriously. Like, if that makes sense.
- 12:11It's weird, but yeah, I truly mean that.
- 12:15Like, they they, you know, some people did, but some people
- 12:18didn't. They're like, were you in the
- 12:19movie? So.
- 12:20And that's cool. I don't really, you know, but
- 12:23yeah, no, I mean, really good, positive, positive feedback.
- 12:27And you know, like I said, Oh, but I will say one thing for the
- 12:31record. Like some people said Harley
- 12:33didn't have any tattoos in the movie.
- 12:35That's not true. I did.
- 12:36I had the exact tattoos that Harley had.
- 12:39But for we we took them off like Sean wanted to take them off
- 12:42halfway through because they were bleeding because of sweat.
- 12:45So I have pictures of the tattoos I'll send you.
- 12:49You know, I had Harley's tattoos.
- 12:51True story. It was just we removed them like
- 12:55halfway through, like when we were doing the fight scene.
- 13:00Yeah, they were definitely there.
- 13:02Definitely. Bit of trivia there for the film
- 13:05fans out there. I'm world's heavyweight
- 13:07champion. Me.
- 13:10Harley Race, the real world's heavyweight champion.
- 13:15Not any of this plastic nonsense that you all parade around with.
- 13:19Out there you have all these guys walking around talking loud
- 13:25about how they are the man, Ric Flair, Dusty Rhodes, Tommy Rich,
- 13:36or one of your snot nosed Von Eric kids.
- 13:40Well this belt is the only measure of who is the man.
- 13:49And that, man, is me, the world's heavyweight Champion.
- 13:56Harley Race. What makes this story so
- 13:59powerful compared to other sports films that have been
- 14:02released in the past? Yeah.
- 14:06No, that's a great question. So I don't really think because
- 14:08it's not really like I don't think I don't see it as like a
- 14:11real sports film, right. Like, so when I saw Sean Durkin,
- 14:15the right director, producer at the premiere afterwards, I gave
- 14:18him a hug and I said, dude, this is not a wrestling movie.
- 14:20He was like, exactly. It's not.
- 14:22It's really a story about brothers, right?
- 14:24And even like at the end when Zach goes, you know, he's he's
- 14:27having a moment with his sons and he says he used to be your
- 14:29brother, right? I mean, people just lost it.
- 14:31So I think that, you know, there's wrestling sprinkled in
- 14:35there. And yes, that's like one of the
- 14:36main, like, you know, subplots, but it's really a story about
- 14:41the bond of the brothers. I mean, you know, and, and, and
- 14:45how powerful it is because you see them, you know, in the
- 14:47beginning, you know, they're they're off playing and playing
- 14:49football on doing this and doing that.
- 14:51And then then as the as the story unfolds from act one to
- 14:55act 2 to act three, you see the tragedies, right?
- 14:57And then you have to go through what the family's going through.
- 15:00So I think that's what really separates it from other other,
- 15:06you know, sports genre movies. It's a brilliant film, and it's
- 15:10one of those films that you don't have to be a vested fan to
- 15:13truly appreciate the art of this story.
- 15:17Old, you know, it's a brutal story, but you know, the fact
- 15:20that Kevin is still with us to tell the story and to continue
- 15:24the vulnerability. Yeah, absolutely.
- 15:29Where did you see it? I saw at the cinema, so when it
- 15:32came. Out in the theatre.
- 15:34Yeah, that's sort of cinema in here.
- 15:36That's great. I knew the story, though, but
- 15:38the person I went to watch with didn't know, so I didn't want to
- 15:40like, you know? So that's just like, oh God, get
- 15:43ready. Yeah.
- 15:43Yeah. No, no, no.
- 15:47Yeah, Yeah, no, no. Just real quick.
- 15:49So obviously I saw it for the first time at the screening in
- 15:53Texas. Yeah.
- 15:55The same theater where they caught Harvey Lee Harvey Oswald.
- 15:59That was crazy. Because like I, I, I, I didn't
- 16:02see it before. So I was like, wow, this is this
- 16:04is pretty cool. That's quite crazy mate.
- 16:08That's crazy. What do you want to ask is how
- 16:11does dead ringers compare to other projects that you've
- 16:15worked with in terms of the intensity Dead ringers?
- 16:20Was great because that's another one Sean, Sean directed and you
- 16:25know, that was working with Rachel, Rachel Weiss, you know
- 16:27what I mean? Who was great I got to be
- 16:30intimate with her. I don't know if you saw it in
- 16:32episode 6 and you know my my character was named Larry and
- 16:37actually the everywhere you do a film and TV right.
- 16:40Normally every project has a code name and this code name was
- 16:43called Larry's diner. Even though I was only in it for
- 16:46like a little bit in episode 1 in the intro and then in episode
- 16:496, they still called up because I opened the scene with the 2,
- 16:54the two twins and I'm, I'm supposed to be drunk and I'm,
- 16:57you know, being kind of like vile, but that that opens the
- 17:01whole series. But working on that was great.
- 17:04You know, it was a great psychological thriller, great
- 17:07time, great to work with, great actors.
- 17:10I mean, that was really cool during COVID too.
- 17:13Actually, they're both during COVID.
- 17:15Iron Iron claw more towards the end, but dead ringer is like we
- 17:18shot that right in the middle. So like you were testing every
- 17:21day? Every day.
- 17:24Because that's crazy on is to work through the pandemic.
- 17:29Every day. Every day.
- 17:31I mean like you would have to test every day.
- 17:34Every day. But if you've seen the rewards
- 17:36of it though, you know the fact that you've.
- 17:39Been able to, yeah. Yeah, awesome projects.
- 17:41You know. Yeah, yeah.
- 17:44God bless, mate. Just a few more questions and
- 17:46then I'll let you enjoy the rest of your afternoon.
- 17:49Yes, afternoon for you at the time of.
- 17:53Right, right. Are there any directors whose
- 17:58style profoundly influenced the way that you think about your
- 18:01performances? I mean, you know, I would say
- 18:08like the, the, the ones probably everyone would think of like,
- 18:10you know, like Spielberg, Scorsese, you know, people like
- 18:16that only because like I, I, I think, and there's so many
- 18:21others and, and of course Sean Durkin that there's so many
- 18:23others, but because of the way they, they really tell the
- 18:28stories. It's about the story, right?
- 18:30It's not about like the cute camera work or like, you know,
- 18:35quick cuts. It's really about the, the
- 18:38acting, you know, and you know, like I was reading somewhere
- 18:43like Spielberg shoots everything wide open, meaning that like, if
- 18:50you watch his, his background, he wants everything in focus,
- 18:53mostly everything in focus. So which is could be tough
- 18:57sometimes if you're shooting on low light because you got to
- 18:59light that stuff. But he wants everyone to see
- 19:02even what's in the background. Whereas you see other directors
- 19:05where they, you know, they have the close-ups and everything has
- 19:07little, you know, it's, it's blurred out.
- 19:09So I thought that was really cool.
- 19:10So those, those kind of directors, anyone in the 70s
- 19:13even, you know, I mean, now there's a million great
- 19:14directors, but I, I kind of learn more towards the ones who
- 19:20are great storytellers, right? Yeah.
- 19:24Because those, those, those would be the most, you know what
- 19:26I mean? And it could be independent or
- 19:28it could be something honestly as great as Sinners.
- 19:30I, I actually really enjoyed Sinners.
- 19:32I mean, I thought it was like that really, you know, surprised
- 19:35me. Like Hoogler.
- 19:36I was like, you know, I, I kind of knew the story.
- 19:39I knew what was going to happen, but I didn't know how they were
- 19:42going to introduce the the vampire.
- 19:45I was like they. Haven't seen it yet.
- 19:47I know this board is don't worry about.
- 19:49Oh, you haven't seen it yet? I haven't seen it, go watch it.
- 19:52Go watch it, watch it because that was one that surprised me.
- 19:56Some of them that are up for awards, you know, I'm like, OK,
- 19:58this one was like, OK, this is cool.
- 20:00Yeah, I think this is cool. I mean, the soundtrack, I was
- 20:03like, this is this is I like movies where like the soundtrack
- 20:06connects with the visuals, with the acting.
- 20:08I was like, this is cool. So I I I would definitely
- 20:11suggest watching Sinners. I really liked it.
- 20:14Definitely got to watch it, it's on my watch list at the moment.
- 20:17Last question, this doesn't have to be film related, but I feel
- 20:21like we might keep it film themed. 3 dream dinner guests,
- 20:24Yeah. Anything you want.
- 20:26For your dream party, dead or alive, fiction, non fiction, 3
- 20:30guests and I want a quick reason as to why you want this person
- 20:33there. Give me the 1st guest to your
- 20:36dream party. Maybe Sean Penn, good choice.
- 20:45Sean Penn, I would say, you know, I would want for different
- 20:50reasons to Bono and Bono, not only not only because his music,
- 20:56but I dig his vibe. Like I want to hear also more
- 21:00about like, you know, his his humanitarian.
- 21:04You know, this is whole vibe on that because I just really dig
- 21:10what he does and I mean the third I mean could be I mean
- 21:13there's so many people like I would want to ask Obama
- 21:16questions, but I mean there's just third.
- 21:21I don't know that are alive. Maybe Shakespeare, you know,
- 21:27just just to ask him, you know, Hey, did you wrote these right?
- 21:31What's going on through your mind or Hemingway?
- 21:33I just some someone were like, I could get a a glimpse into like,
- 21:38you know, their thought process. Because I think that that also
- 21:41helps in like for for me, for like the creative process to, to
- 21:46learn how someone got about or just came up with ideas.
- 21:49Because a lot of times, like, you know, I think Spielberg
- 21:52said, you know, good ideas are bad ideas that you just worked
- 21:58on, right? So, you know, I think that's,
- 22:02that's like one of the coolest things is, you know, meeting
- 22:05people who are constantly moving forward, constantly trying to
- 22:10evolve and, and, and think constantly you're trying to make
- 22:13the world a better place. I mean, seriously, right?
- 22:15Because especially what's going on now with the world, we, we
- 22:19need a little bit of, you know, things going right, right.
- 22:25I agree. I agree mate, it's a good way to
- 22:27end it. I like the guest.
- 22:28Dress by the way, Bono Barma Shakespeare got a little bit of
- 22:32grudge of Shakespeare but with him for about 6 years at school
- 22:39and obviously fantastic answer. Milk.
- 22:41I think his performance in Milk is amazing and I felt so bad for
- 22:45Mickey Rourke did. You see him did your works great
- 22:48too. Did you see him in one battle
- 22:51after another? I've not seen that one yet.
- 22:52I'm literally a little bit behind.
- 22:54You try to see it films. He's he's.
- 22:56He's great in it. I mean, he won the Oscar.
- 22:58He was great in it. You know, he's, he's one of
- 23:01those actors. He's just, he's just good.
- 23:03So believable, you know? I love him in like Mystic River,
- 23:06that's fantastic when he's like. Yeah, that's great.
- 23:09It was great is. That my daughter is.
- 23:12That yeah, yeah, yeah. It was great, right?
- 23:16It's an amazing film, actually. Can I ask you one last question
- 23:18actually? And you're gonna probably think,
- 23:20oh, it's a bit for maybe a blank question, but I think it's quite
- 23:23interesting to ask an actor with your CV especially.
- 23:27What's your favorite film of all time?
- 23:30That I know. It sounds like a basic.
- 23:31Question see, I mean, no, no, no, it's it's probably gonna be
- 23:34like Star Wars or like Raiders of Lost Ark.
- 23:37I mean, and, and I think it's Star Wars because it, it, it
- 23:42really like, I mean, to me, it's like the perfect film, right?
- 23:47Because it's everything about your childhood, you know what I
- 23:49mean? It's like good versus evil.
- 23:51It's it's very simple. I mean, I don't know, I mean
- 23:54that, that that's the first thing that will come to mind.
- 23:57But also maybe Raiders of the Lost Ark.
- 23:59I mean, back in the day, I probably say like, you know,
- 24:01Casablanca or stuff. I mean, there's, there's just so
- 24:03many to choose from. I probably watch like, I don't
- 24:06know, 30 movies a week, you know, so it's like it's it's I'm
- 24:10constantly trying to watch them. But I mean, I think Star Wars is
- 24:13probably my favorite movie just because it makes me feel good.
- 24:15It it, it brings you to like that, that happy place, you
- 24:18know, for me, for me, a. New Hope is my favorite stars
- 24:21film as well. I know most people want.
- 24:22To yeah, yeah, yeah. But for me, New Hope is the one
- 24:26that kicks off all and I just think it's a bad story.
- 24:29But they're all brilliant in the world.
- 24:30Not all. I agree that's.
- 24:33Not bad ones. Yeah, I know.
- 24:36Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. The original trilogy is
- 24:39fantastic. Kevin, thank you very much for
- 24:41your time. Where can the listeners find you
- 24:43on social media so they can keep up to date with your?
- 24:47Yeah, if they can find me any of the any of the handles, sorry,
- 24:51at Kevin Anton, you know, or online, you know, Kevin
- 24:55anton.com. But I would say Instagram's the
- 24:58most at Kevin Anton. Awesome give Kevin a follow give
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- 25:08But for now, everyone, I hope you all have a great weekend.
- 25:11Take care and it's good to be back on the podcast.