Latest / Making Miracles Happen Masterclass / Ep: 15: You Don't Need To Erase The Memory To Erase Its Power Over You | Emotions Healer Shannon Burton
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- 0:00SPEAKER_01: Then my nephew was staying with me, and you understand that I was like, Oh, I love him being here.
- 0:05SPEAKER_01: He's like, Man, I'm so happy here.
- 0:07SPEAKER_01: This is like my life is so perfect.
- 0:08SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I know, right?
- 0:10SPEAKER_00: So, why can't he come out to California for a little bit?
- 0:13SPEAKER_01: Well, he he just graduated from high school, so he didn't, he's he started school and he can come for the summer, whenever I'm always welcome here.
- 0:22SPEAKER_01: But we didn't think he was gonna get on campus housing, but you know, Shannon working her magic.
- 0:29SPEAKER_01: Of course, I got the house, and he was like, Look what he said, Adrian.
- 0:32SPEAKER_01: And when I say he was warm with my heart, he was like, When I'm with you, everything just seems to work out.
- 0:38SPEAKER_01: He was like, He was like, You need to just teach what you do.
- 0:41SPEAKER_01: Like, how do you do that?
- 0:42SPEAKER_01: And because I had him visualized and I was like, You gotta see it and you gotta say this.
- 0:47SPEAKER_01: And so we're like driving.
- 0:49SPEAKER_01: I was like, our our mission, our motto for this drive, this 15 minutes is we are so thankful that we have gotten you a room today, and it's great.
- 0:57SPEAKER_01: We are celebrating.
- 0:58SPEAKER_01: And he was like, Okay, and then so the girl tried to be like, It's nothing I can do, and I'm like, shoot.
- 1:04SPEAKER_01: So I'm like, Okay, I done prayed about this.
- 1:06SPEAKER_01: Like, don't don't make you look bad in front of this kid, okay?
- 1:10SPEAKER_01: So then the girl she came back with those magic words, Adrian.
- 1:14SPEAKER_01: Don't tell nobody this.
- 1:15SPEAKER_01: I was like, don't tell nobody what.
- 1:19SPEAKER_01: So we can't use this on the podcast.
- 1:22SPEAKER_01: Oh, we can't, we can't.
- 1:23SPEAKER_01: Oh, this is a great story, okay.
- 1:25SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
- 1:25SPEAKER_01: I'll do we can use it on the podcast because you know it's got a story.
- 1:29SPEAKER_01: So it worked out.
- 1:30SPEAKER_00: It worked out.
- 1:32SPEAKER_01: Wow, it worked out, it was it was crazy.
- 1:35SPEAKER_01: Bananas.
- 1:36SPEAKER_01: Oh he was like Mount Nephe said nobody's gonna believe this story.
- 1:47SPEAKER_02: Let's make miracles happen.
- 1:51SPEAKER_01: You know, it's funny.
- 1:52SPEAKER_01: Okay, I don't know if you, yeah, I know we're recording, but it was so funny.
- 1:56SPEAKER_01: Adrian, my lap, when I was leaving, everything was going wrong.
- 2:00SPEAKER_01: It was like I had so much bad luck, and I never have bad luck ever since I met you.
- 2:06SPEAKER_01: Thank you, thank you.
- 2:07SPEAKER_01: Okay, seriously, though, you know, you know, that really, you know, I'm not the same person I was, but no, I never had bad luck, and everything was going wrong.
- 2:17SPEAKER_01: And so I was like, okay, this must be some old energy that I got to get out of Cincinnati.
- 2:22SPEAKER_01: So I left, and here I am.
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: Was that when you first moved, or is that when you went back to get all your stuff?
- 2:29SPEAKER_01: No, that was the day of my slight.
- 2:31SPEAKER_01: The last week I was in Cincinnati.
- 2:33SPEAKER_01: It was August.
- 2:34SPEAKER_01: You know, we were heading up towards that eclipse, and everything just started going bad for me.
- 2:40SPEAKER_01: Like canceled events, lost money, had problems at the airport.
- 2:46SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was just problems.
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: And I don't ever have that.
- 2:50SPEAKER_01: I was like, is this a sign that I'm supposed to stay, or is this like, get the heck out of here?
- 2:55SPEAKER_01: And so when I got here, everything did the sun start, it started like lightening up again.
- 2:59SPEAKER_01: And I was like, okay, like that good fortune started back up, like free stuff.
- 3:05SPEAKER_01: Oh, look who you ran into, like that kind of thing started back up, which is kind of how my life is now, which is a beautiful thing.
- 3:11SPEAKER_01: Um, but girl, that last week in Cincinnati, it was like, it was like somebody had a voodoo doll with my picture on it.
- 3:20SPEAKER_00: Oh a voodoo doll with your picture on it.
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: That is hilarious.
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
- 3:31SPEAKER_00: And that's just from you going back to to finish up Lucy's, like maybe you stay too long.
- 3:37SPEAKER_01: Well, so this is what happened.
- 3:39SPEAKER_01: So I started wanting to stay because things were going really good.
- 3:44SPEAKER_01: Like I had a social life, it was just great, like it was fun.
- 3:50SPEAKER_01: I had all kinds of events like outfit changes and that, but that so I channeled on it, and I said, Okay, look, I'm thinking about staying.
- 3:59SPEAKER_01: And so what I got was, and that's like, well, I need to book this flight, and so they were like, don't book it for the 21st.
- 4:08SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, okay, well, when can I go home?
- 4:10SPEAKER_01: And they were like, no later than August 11th.
- 4:12SPEAKER_01: I said, okay.
- 4:14SPEAKER_01: So um I booked the flight for August 11th, and they were like, we don't want to snatch you out of there.
- 4:24SPEAKER_01: We need you to fully process emotionally everything about being at home because it needs to be something that you do willingly.
- 4:32SPEAKER_01: So let's just give some clarity on this.
- 4:35SPEAKER_00: So you're from Cincinnati, Ohio, you moved to California, yes, and now you're back in Cincinnati, Ohio to close everything out and close that chapter of your life.
- 4:45SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 4:46SPEAKER_01: Okay, exactly.
- 4:48SPEAKER_01: So when I get there, it was like I had gone through this healing program.
- 4:55SPEAKER_01: The healing program is called Cutting the Ties to Bind.
- 4:58SPEAKER_01: And so I had done it with both my parents, and it was so crazy to go back home and see how I react to my family, how they react to me differently now that I've done all of this healing.
- 5:12SPEAKER_01: Because when I was in Cincinnati before, I used to be like, God, everybody here is so mean.
- 5:18SPEAKER_01: Oh, these people are mean and nasty.
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: And I would tell my friends, like, God, why did you tell me everybody here was so mean?
- 5:24SPEAKER_01: Because I had just moved there from DC.
- 5:27SPEAKER_01: So they're like, Oh, you didn't know that?
- 5:28SPEAKER_01: Everybody here is mean.
- 5:30SPEAKER_01: And I would tell another friend, like, Oh, yeah, people here are really nasty.
- 5:33SPEAKER_01: And so it's so funny that when I changed, the whole city changed.
- 5:39SPEAKER_01: This is so crazy.
- 5:40SPEAKER_01: I haven't been gone 12 months.
- 5:42SPEAKER_01: I'd go back to Cincinnati this time, and everybody's so nice.
- 5:47SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Oh my god, hey, how are you?
- 5:49SPEAKER_01: People in the store, hey, everything like the weather's nice.
- 5:53SPEAKER_01: When I used to walk, my dog, neighborhood dogs would be barking at us, attacking.
- 5:58SPEAKER_01: Now, all the dogs, none of the dogs are there anymore.
- 6:01SPEAKER_01: It was just nice.
- 6:02SPEAKER_01: So it was almost like I created a different world for myself.
- 6:05SPEAKER_01: And it's funny to live it, like you can hear about it, but to live it is kind of crazy.
- 6:10SPEAKER_01: But anyway, so yeah, it was a wonderful summer, it was amazing.
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: But the last week, and it was actually the week before the eclipse, there was an uh there was an eclipse on August the 12th.
- 6:24SPEAKER_01: And before that happened, it was like everything was just going wrong.
- 6:30SPEAKER_01: Like I signed up for an event, there was no event, um, no, I didn't get my money um back.
- 6:37SPEAKER_01: It was just like all kinds of weird things.
- 6:39SPEAKER_01: I got sick.
- 6:40SPEAKER_01: And so I was confused because I'm like, does that mean I'm supposed to stay here?
- 6:45SPEAKER_01: This is an omen that I should stay.
- 6:47SPEAKER_01: But no, I remembered the conversation that I had with my guys, and I was like, no, I'm gonna keep going.
- 6:53SPEAKER_01: And mind you, the reason that I needed to leave is because it was I really needed to close that old chapter.
- 7:01SPEAKER_01: Like the things that were in the basement, and you know the basement represents the subconscious.
- 7:05SPEAKER_01: So the things that were in the basement were for them from the last 10 years of my life.
- 7:09SPEAKER_01: So I'm turning 50.
- 7:11SPEAKER_01: I'm leaving the last 10 years behind, which included Cincinnati and Washington, DC.
- 7:18SPEAKER_01: This it was like a oh, it's just a really, really, really fresh start.
- 7:22SPEAKER_01: So anyway, I feel like I'm digressing.
- 7:24SPEAKER_01: Getting back to California.
- 7:26SPEAKER_01: Oh my God, I was so happy.
- 7:28SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh my God, I can't believe I'm here.
- 7:30SPEAKER_01: So yeah, um, everything has just started falling back into place now.
- 7:35SPEAKER_01: Like everything's just is it's just better now.
- 7:38SPEAKER_00: You know, I I know your story.
- 7:40SPEAKER_00: I how long have we known each other?
- 7:42SPEAKER_00: Like five years, four years, 2021?
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: 21, 2021, five years.
- 7:47SPEAKER_00: Okay, so five years.
- 7:48SPEAKER_00: And so I know your story because I used to, I I used to do healings on you, and then you ended up taking my healing course.
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: And so there's there's certain things that I remember you mentioning to me that are kind of it I still kind of dumbfounded to find out because I think I found out in the last two years.
- 8:07SPEAKER_00: Um, but I'm kind of wondering when you talk about you did a class and you did some some what was it, cord cutting?
- 8:14SPEAKER_01: Yes, something like that.
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: Cutting the oh wait, who teaches that?
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: I've heard somebody teaching that one.
- 8:23SPEAKER_01: Michael Sheridan, okay school, yeah.
- 8:26SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
- 8:26SPEAKER_00: All right, so um, because I've interviewed him, he's he's oh my god, his dream stuff is amazing.
- 8:33SPEAKER_00: That's how you found him?
- 8:34SPEAKER_00: Yep, through your show, yeah.
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: So you said that you you cut the ties with your parents, and and things started to shift and change.
- 8:44SPEAKER_00: And so I'm wondering if you would share where your parents are today.
- 8:52SPEAKER_01: So my mind is deceased, but my father's still here, and it's it's different to do it with a parent who is deceased because you feel guilty, you literally feel guilty.
- 9:03SPEAKER_01: Like, how can I cut ties with someone?
- 9:04SPEAKER_01: She's already gone.
- 9:05SPEAKER_01: That's what I believe.
- 9:07SPEAKER_01: They're going to trigger you early on to have experiences that you actually came here with the intention to heal.
- 9:18SPEAKER_01: So um, there really is no blame in that.
- 9:23SPEAKER_01: So there are things that I experienced from a young age, and it's it's to blame your mom.
- 9:29SPEAKER_01: Like, you did this to me, you were never there for me.
- 9:32SPEAKER_01: But that is not really her.
- 9:35SPEAKER_01: It's really something that I had in the spirit world that I came here on earth to heal.
- 9:40SPEAKER_01: So they try she triggers me.
- 9:42SPEAKER_01: I get mad, I'm sad, I have really jacked-up relationships, also that I'll seek out healing, which I did when I found you.
- 9:50SPEAKER_01: So the the whole point is for me to give all of that back to her energetically.
- 9:59SPEAKER_01: So she's in spirit and she takes it back willingly.
- 10:03SPEAKER_01: So anything that's not who I truly am, I inherited from her, I give back to her.
- 10:09SPEAKER_01: And she can transmute it or do whatever with it.
- 10:12SPEAKER_01: But the same thing goes for my father.
- 10:14SPEAKER_01: Anything that I picked up, any beliefs and thoughts and patterns and negative attitudes, anything that's not really serving me, that I feel hurt me, I get it back to them.
- 10:25SPEAKER_01: And so it's such a healing process to be like blessed and transmuted, as you say, like to clear all of that stuff out, then just become who you truly are.
- 10:36SPEAKER_01: And it's not to say that he was born with that, even himself.
- 10:42SPEAKER_01: This is obviously like a generational thing.
- 10:45SPEAKER_01: But the point is not to give it back to the generations.
- 10:49SPEAKER_01: The point of the healing program is to give it back to your actual parent because good, bad, or indifferent, it's your parents that you learn the most from.
- 10:57SPEAKER_01: So, um, yeah, we had to get, I gave back that energy.
- 11:02SPEAKER_00: And all right, so what's the story you want to tell that's gonna get everybody invested in who you are?
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: Share something with me.
- 11:07SPEAKER_00: I'm ready.
- 11:08SPEAKER_01: Give me something really probably be like my relationship, yeah.
- 11:15SPEAKER_01: Relationship too.
- 11:20SPEAKER_00: So you're gonna actually share that?
- 11:22SPEAKER_01: Share that uh with no names.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: I'm ready.
- 11:25SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm ready for this.
- 11:26SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm ready for this, I'm ready for this, I'm ready for this because this is talking about this.
- 11:31SPEAKER_00: I've been wanting you to talk about this for so long because what we're getting ready to get into is it's a very heavy story, but it's one of those things that it gets people's attention that all you can overcome this, you can change, you know what I mean?
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: Like, this is a big one, and the thing about of you not wanting to share it, I always knew that was a part of the wound in the first place and part of the shame.
- 11:58SPEAKER_00: So the simple fact that you're even like I'm willing to share it means you've done some major healings because I think it's what led to your healing, correct?
- 12:05SPEAKER_01: It's absolutely what led to my healing.
- 12:07SPEAKER_01: This is why I came flawing back.
- 12:10SPEAKER_01: I mean, we were just talking about tarot, and I love tarot, um, multidimensional tarot.
- 12:15SPEAKER_01: It was like the tower card.
- 12:17SPEAKER_01: If anybody out there knows the major arcana, you know that tower card, you're like, even though honestly, the tower card really just signals new beginnings, and it's actually more gentle than the picture kind of would lead you to believe.
- 12:30SPEAKER_01: But um, just the panic of the people jumping out of the building, everything's on fire, that's kind of how it was.
- 12:36SPEAKER_01: So, yes, it was like it was a tornado and a hurricane and a flood all at the same time, all in like the course of one week.
- 12:46SPEAKER_01: And so this is the backstory.
- 12:50SPEAKER_01: So I was in a very long-term, serious relationship, and it it was like for years, I just felt like something wasn't quite right.
- 13:04SPEAKER_01: And I learned this from Esther Hicks.
- 13:08SPEAKER_01: There are two things, there are two things that that stick out to me.
- 13:12SPEAKER_01: Um, because I get these daily readings from her, but you can't have a happy ending to an unhappy journey.
- 13:19SPEAKER_01: And I'm not saying that the journey was completely unhappy.
- 13:23SPEAKER_01: There were obviously some good times.
- 13:24SPEAKER_01: And anybody out there listening, if you you've been in a relationship that has this ups and downs, you know, there are the ups that keep you kind of like invested.
- 13:33SPEAKER_01: And it's really like those memories, like, oh man, that was so great.
- 13:38SPEAKER_01: It was the memories of how things were that create the fantasy that once that's firmly established in your heart and in your mind, they got you.
- 13:49SPEAKER_01: And you keep kind of referring back to that, even when times are hard.
- 13:53SPEAKER_01: And it could be five or 10 years later, but you still keep referring back to that.
- 13:57SPEAKER_01: So it's kind of like it's kind of like a Neptunian type of thing where you're living for a fantasy as opposed to in reality.
- 14:08SPEAKER_01: Um, and I believe Neptune was in Pisces throughout that, so that makes sense why I succumbed to that type of energy, but no, we're not blaming the cosmos.
- 14:17SPEAKER_01: It was something that needed to happen, and I'm totally convinced that my soul on the other side said, we're gonna go hard or we're gonna go home, which is why I stayed way past the expiration date.
- 14:29SPEAKER_01: But anyway, um, so yeah, this was one of those um times in life that was like soul shattering, but it was like the death and the rebirth that brought me here today.
- 14:46SPEAKER_01: I can't think of another way that an experience could have um led to so much growth.
- 14:51SPEAKER_01: And um it's funny because I never knew that I was an intuitive.
- 14:59SPEAKER_01: But for years I would have this nagging thing.
- 15:04SPEAKER_01: Like when he would come home, like my stomach would jump a little bit.
- 15:08SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, wait, but my mind was like, No, you're supposed to be happy he's home.
- 15:12SPEAKER_01: But my stomach, like the body tells the story, and so like I would hear the car pull up, and I'm like, what was that?
- 15:20SPEAKER_01: And I would still force myself to go downstairs.
- 15:21SPEAKER_01: Like, what the fuck's your A.
- 15:24SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, something was amiss.
- 15:26SPEAKER_01: There was something rotten in Denmark.
- 15:29SPEAKER_01: So um, yeah, let's fast forward to this person ended up with a devastating illness.
- 15:39SPEAKER_01: And so now we have to enter in the guilt component.
- 15:42SPEAKER_01: And so I have to believe that there were so many choice points for me to say, hey, are you gonna stay?
- 15:49SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna go?
- 15:51SPEAKER_01: And I just chose to stay because I think I really must have really wanted to see what the lesson would be at the end of this.
- 15:59SPEAKER_01: I know now in hindsight that I was really supposed to leave earlier.
- 16:03SPEAKER_01: But it, you know, as you go along, there are so many different ways to open the door to have an like a to make a different choice that'll put you on a higher path.
- 16:15SPEAKER_01: And one thing that I really got to note is when we met, we were of similar vibration, which is how we met in the first place.
- 16:23SPEAKER_01: So there's no judgment there.
- 16:24SPEAKER_01: We were of similar vibration, but the thing of it is, I started to rise in vibration, and this person chose to stay low.
- 16:31SPEAKER_01: So it doesn't it.
- 16:35SPEAKER_01: So what that means is he's no longer attracted to me and I'm no longer attracted to him, but we just couldn't face that fact.
- 16:42SPEAKER_01: When that happens, it's best to exit and and find something else because you've outgrown and it's time to look for a new way to grow.
- 16:50SPEAKER_01: But I didn't.
- 16:52SPEAKER_01: Um, that being said, this person betrayed me in a way that I never would have expected.
- 17:00SPEAKER_01: So they betray, I found out about the betrayal.
- 17:05SPEAKER_01: Um, and then five days later, he died.
- 17:10SPEAKER_01: So it was really literally like a drive-by shooting, like, and then you're out.
- 17:17SPEAKER_01: Like, what?
- 17:18SPEAKER_01: Like, it's like, how can you just exit stage left?
- 17:22SPEAKER_01: And I had nowhere for my anger to go, and I was so devastated.
- 17:26SPEAKER_01: I was so devastated that I decided to forgive him and look for the best in everything.
- 17:33SPEAKER_01: And I'm I in fact, I created another story of how this probably happened, and it left me like, you know what, things aren't so bad.
- 17:43SPEAKER_01: But the universe, the divine, infinite, intelligent universe said, uh-uh, because one thing I always say to clients, to people, my family members, friends, universe is so aware of you.
- 17:57SPEAKER_01: They're so aware of everything you're thinking and doing.
- 17:59SPEAKER_01: Like, you cannot hide from that.
- 18:01SPEAKER_01: So as I'm writing, I miss you letters.
- 18:07SPEAKER_01: There was an eclipse in Uranus that said, uh, you know, eclipses play no games, and it's looking for weak links and it's looking to transform.
- 18:17SPEAKER_01: And Uranus is the great disruptor.
- 18:20SPEAKER_01: And an eclipse in Uranus had my name written all over it.
- 18:26SPEAKER_01: So as I'm so sad about everything and stuck in this thing that God told me to get out of three years ago.
- 18:38SPEAKER_01: Here comes this eclipse.
- 18:40SPEAKER_01: And with the eclipse, I get a phone call.
- 18:44SPEAKER_01: And it was like, you know, when you have eclipses, especially in Uranus, especially lunar eclipses, it's gonna be information that you don't see coming.
- 18:52SPEAKER_01: It's gonna land at your doorstep.
- 18:54SPEAKER_01: And that's the whole point of it.
- 18:55SPEAKER_01: You can't see it coming.
- 18:56SPEAKER_01: Like it could be like it's nothing you could ever imagine.
- 18:59SPEAKER_01: And so I get this phone call, and I'm not gonna give any details, but it was truth coming to light.
- 19:07SPEAKER_01: Any illusion that I was choosing to still be under was completely shattered.
- 19:14SPEAKER_01: And literally, Adrian, I sat on the bed and I said, I am broken.
- 19:20SPEAKER_01: Like I it was, and that was the whole point, right?
- 19:23SPEAKER_01: To be broken, to be broken down for a new birth, you know, born again.
- 19:27SPEAKER_01: Like all of this, I see it now, but at the time, broken.
- 19:32SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, like I couldn't think my way out.
- 19:35SPEAKER_01: I called you and I were messaged you and said, Can you hypnotize me?
- 19:40SPEAKER_01: So that's funny.
- 19:42SPEAKER_01: I laugh at it now.
- 19:44SPEAKER_01: Like, I literally was like, I need to be hypnotized.
- 19:46SPEAKER_01: Why did you want me to hypnotize you for what?
- 19:48SPEAKER_01: I wanted you to erase my memory.
- 19:51SPEAKER_00: Real?
- 19:51SPEAKER_00: I don't remember that.
- 19:52SPEAKER_00: Really?
- 19:55SPEAKER_00: No, you be saying some crazy stuff to me though.
- 19:59SPEAKER_01: Bro, how many ever wanted to be like just wipe my brain clean?
- 20:04SPEAKER_01: You can't unsee it, you can't unhear it.
- 20:08SPEAKER_01: As as as is prescribed, you come here with so many things that you want to heal.
- 20:17SPEAKER_01: And there are going to be, especially in relationship partners, if you are of a much lower frequency, if you're not in alignment, if you're not on your path, there are gonna be, especially in relationships, people that will trigger you and bring that stuff out of you.
- 20:31SPEAKER_01: And if you stay in there, they'll just keep triggering you.
- 20:34SPEAKER_01: And it's all to prompt you to get healing, which is exactly what I did.
- 20:38SPEAKER_01: But it was funny because I didn't know that I was also a healer.
- 20:42SPEAKER_01: And so the beautiful Adrian said, You're healer.
- 20:44SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, what?
- 20:45SPEAKER_01: And it's like, how did I even get on her email list?
- 20:49SPEAKER_01: I even know who she was, but it was like I just showed up there.
- 20:52SPEAKER_01: I don't, I don't, I don't know, but it was meant for us to meet.
- 20:56SPEAKER_01: You had a um, what was it called?
- 21:01SPEAKER_01: Manifest in miracles.
- 21:02SPEAKER_01: It saves my life, it literally saved my life because it helped me redirect my focus because it was I was spiraling.
- 21:09SPEAKER_01: Like this woman who's always under control was totally living a facade.
- 21:16SPEAKER_01: Hey, yeah, living a lie.
- 21:20SPEAKER_01: Like, and everybody loved that lie too.
- 21:22SPEAKER_01: They loved him, they loved me.
- 21:24SPEAKER_01: Oh, you guys are like Ken and Barbie.
- 21:27SPEAKER_01: But where was what was real?
- 21:29SPEAKER_01: What was real?
- 21:30SPEAKER_01: And that's why, like, today, like I don't have any gray area.
- 21:33SPEAKER_01: Like, I it is what it is.
- 21:35SPEAKER_01: I hope you like it.
- 21:36SPEAKER_01: If you don't, that's fine too.
- 21:37SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh yeah, the facade is is dropped.
- 21:42SPEAKER_01: And so being authentic, I can look back and say, I see how patterns in my own family.
- 21:53SPEAKER_01: In fact, you said this.
- 21:55SPEAKER_01: You said, Shannon, you were gonna be with him, or you weren't gonna be with anybody because it's true.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: You bring all this stuff from your family and you attract that.
- 22:06SPEAKER_01: For me specifically, I understand about myself that one of the reasons why I'm here is to heal generational patterns.
- 22:14SPEAKER_01: And so that was kind of like the pentacle of that.
- 22:17SPEAKER_01: So me experiencing everything that women in my family have experienced, feeling their pain, the pain of the women, being with a man that, even though he wasn't in my family, was the same as those men.
- 22:33SPEAKER_01: So that's what he represented energetically.
- 22:35SPEAKER_01: That's that's who he was, that's what he did.
- 22:37SPEAKER_01: So I could for me to be able to feel their pain so raw, so real, so authentically, like it would be one thing if they were to tell me about it.
- 22:46SPEAKER_01: But for me to actually feel it and then be able to transmute that, to heal from that and be like, oh my God, it's actually okay.
- 22:55SPEAKER_01: That was something that those women were never able to do.
- 22:58SPEAKER_01: And so it heals, it goes back through the lineage when I experienced that.
- 23:03SPEAKER_01: And so I've actually been able to forgive him, even though he's dead and gone.
- 23:08SPEAKER_01: Um, I thank him for those lessons and um have written, you know, several soul release letters, like, hey, thanks for that.
- 23:16SPEAKER_01: That was tough, but this is what I learned from it.
- 23:19SPEAKER_01: And there's been so, so many lessons.
- 23:22SPEAKER_01: And so I I want to jump in real quick.
- 23:24SPEAKER_00: Do you have spiritual bypassing is is something that I think the the term is very prevalent right now.
- 23:31SPEAKER_00: People are talking about it because there's so many times where spiritual people will go in and just go, you know, I did forgiveness letters and I forgave this person.
- 23:39SPEAKER_00: But I but there is that missing piece, which is did you ever get freaking angry?
- 23:43SPEAKER_00: Did you ever get pissed off?
- 23:45SPEAKER_00: Did you ever deal with how it made you feel in the first place to get you to that place of forgiveness?
- 23:50SPEAKER_01: Ah, yes, the healing journey.
- 23:53SPEAKER_01: Since we have time, there was I like literally, literally, we had to call in so many resources.
- 24:04SPEAKER_01: I had a therapist, I had multiple healers to do a total transformation.
- 24:11SPEAKER_01: I had to change the people that I was hanging around.
- 24:14SPEAKER_01: Like it, like the healing journey is intense.
- 24:17SPEAKER_01: And yes, we had to do that just to keep my sanity, like to not have like a nervous breakdown.
- 24:23SPEAKER_01: No, I never had a nervous breakdown, but eager doesn't even begin to describe it.
- 24:30SPEAKER_01: Um in fact, I was so angry, but I wasn't even sorry that he was gone.
- 24:37SPEAKER_01: I hate to say that, but it's true.
- 24:40SPEAKER_01: That's all I mean.
- 24:41SPEAKER_01: Other people are crying at the funeral, and I'm like, No, no, that like that was next level anger.
- 24:50SPEAKER_01: But what it took, what so this is the thing though, you can be angry, and it's good to feel angry because that was something I had never been able to express.
- 25:00SPEAKER_01: How angry and sad I was.
- 25:02SPEAKER_01: And I wasn't just mad at him, I was mad at myself.
- 25:04SPEAKER_01: In fact, I might have been more mad at myself, like, God, you're better than this.
- 25:08SPEAKER_01: Um, so there was a lot of shame there.
- 25:12SPEAKER_01: Like, oh my God, how embarrassing is this that all this stuff happened and blew up in my face after I've tried to create this big presentation of a perfect life.
- 25:22SPEAKER_01: But so yeah, there's anger there, but I think the biggest thing that I was dealing with was the shame and the embarrassment of the failure that I had dropped the ball so massively that I ignored my own intuition to my own detriment.
- 25:40SPEAKER_01: Like I was more mad at myself.
- 25:42SPEAKER_01: Like, real talk, I was mad at myself.
- 25:44SPEAKER_01: It really made me take such a good heart look in the mirror that it was like he mattered, but not so much.
- 25:51SPEAKER_01: I've been able to turn that around and be like, man, I wish he was last week and see how great my life is, but it's not to be, it's neither here nor there.
- 26:01SPEAKER_01: The big, the big, big learning for me in that was this stuff wasn't even really his fault.
- 26:09SPEAKER_01: It was me.
- 26:10SPEAKER_01: It was the the devil is me.
- 26:12SPEAKER_01: Like, remember Whitney Houston said that the devil is me.
- 26:15SPEAKER_01: It was me, it was everything I needed to do.
- 26:17SPEAKER_01: And so um, I really I that's one thing I do have a powerful mind.
- 26:23SPEAKER_01: I was able to turn my focus off of him and onto myself.
- 26:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then and then I was busy.
- 26:28SPEAKER_01: I had so much to do.
- 26:30SPEAKER_01: So spiritual bypassing distractions can be that, but um, but when I say I pulled out all the stops, like making investments, like like money to and time to figure out how did I get here and really reframing it because the biggest problem, and I and actually I deal with this a lot now, like with people, when I see people like feeling like they're victims, that's like a number one no-no for me.
- 26:59SPEAKER_01: So I was like, I'm not a victim.
- 27:01SPEAKER_01: I have a cult, I have full control as a co-creator.
- 27:05SPEAKER_01: And so I can't, what am I being mad at?
- 27:07SPEAKER_01: It was me.
- 27:08SPEAKER_01: I'm a co-creator.
- 27:09SPEAKER_01: I did that.
- 27:10SPEAKER_01: And so once you can figure that out for yourself, and so I even talking to anybody, you be mad at the person for uh five minutes, and then okay, let's talk about which what part you played, because it really is pointless.
- 27:22SPEAKER_01: How long are you gonna be mad at them?
- 27:24SPEAKER_01: Like it was you.
- 27:25SPEAKER_01: How did you contribute to this?
- 27:27SPEAKER_01: And and less and then so many layers to it.
- 27:30SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, I was I was really, I know, I mean, I was angry, but it was more disappointment, more shame, more embarrassment, more guilt.
- 27:40SPEAKER_01: Like, how did I do that?
- 27:42SPEAKER_01: But looking at myself, it was able to be so empowering.
- 27:48SPEAKER_01: And, you know, other people can look at that and be like, ah, so it's really not him.
- 27:54SPEAKER_01: And when you're stuck in that relationship, that's really where you want to be.
- 27:58SPEAKER_01: You really don't want to be because you know, gods cheat.
- 28:00SPEAKER_01: I mean, women cheat too, but we're talking about a man in this instance.
- 28:03SPEAKER_01: So people cheat, and it's like you still might stay, or you still might want to be with them.
- 28:12SPEAKER_01: So it's not just people where the person has is passed away or the relationship is over, or the divorce is final.
- 28:18SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you stay and you're still there.
- 28:21SPEAKER_01: And even in those times, you gotta look at yourself.
- 28:25SPEAKER_00: Well, you mean they stay?
- 28:26SPEAKER_00: You mean they stay emotionally?
- 28:28SPEAKER_01: Stay in a relationship, yeah.
- 28:30SPEAKER_01: Stay in a relationship, yeah.
- 28:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no judgment, it's just what sometimes what we do, we're invested.
- 28:34SPEAKER_01: You know, I was invested, I get it.
- 28:36SPEAKER_00: So you feel like the reason that you stayed for so long is embarrassment, shame?
- 28:41SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, no.
- 28:42SPEAKER_01: I stayed because I thought that I needed to.
- 28:45SPEAKER_01: That was one thing I learned in therapy.
- 28:48SPEAKER_01: I was free to change my mind, and never felt like I was free to change my mind.
- 28:53SPEAKER_01: Now, was that something?
- 28:55SPEAKER_00: Do you did you do you feel like he he gave you that feeling that you didn't have a right to change your mind?
- 29:03SPEAKER_01: I I had that, I had that in college.
- 29:06SPEAKER_01: I chose a major that was horrible for me.
- 29:09SPEAKER_01: I'm not a STEM type of girl, I don't do math, but I chose a major that was math based because a man in my family said that I couldn't make money writing, which is what I'm good at.
- 29:24SPEAKER_01: And so this is what I came with.
- 29:26SPEAKER_01: So now I see how we're bringing it full circle, how I attracted somebody, you know, saying that was still making me feel like that.
- 29:32SPEAKER_01: So um, yeah, never changed my my major.
- 29:36SPEAKER_01: So I'm sitting with my therapist and she's like, Why didn't you ever change your major?
- 29:40SPEAKER_01: I was like, Well, I didn't think I could.
- 29:42SPEAKER_01: So, like, once you make a decision, like you got to stay there.
- 29:45SPEAKER_01: And so now we're not talking about changing majors.
- 29:48SPEAKER_01: Now you're talking about a long-term relationship that you're committed to.
- 29:51SPEAKER_01: So um, yeah, I didn't know that I was free to change my mind.
- 29:56SPEAKER_01: Something so basic that you grow up with.
- 29:59SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, it was actually that simple, Adrian.
- 30:01SPEAKER_01: It wasn't even him.
- 30:02SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, there were ways that it that was kind of perpetuated, you know.
- 30:07SPEAKER_00: You know, absolutely, especially if you were ever taught at any point that when you make your bed, you have to lie in it.
- 30:13SPEAKER_00: That doesn't say, hey, if you made your bed, you feel free to change it.
- 30:17SPEAKER_00: It's if you made whatever choice you make, there's consequences you have to deal with it.
- 30:21SPEAKER_00: And it does kind of give you this idea that you can't get out of the consequences, like you're stuck.
- 30:26SPEAKER_00: So I could see if you learn that as a child, how that might stick with you.
- 30:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 30:33SPEAKER_01: Cause shoot, if I had a thought, felt like I had freedom, like I'm nobody's chained to me.
- 30:37SPEAKER_01: There's a tarot card for that too.
- 30:39SPEAKER_01: Nobody's chaining me, but I was just like, no, I've gotta stick this out.
- 30:44SPEAKER_01: Like, I've even I'm getting F's in all my classes, I've got to stick this out.
- 30:48SPEAKER_01: Just change your major, Shannon.
- 30:50SPEAKER_01: No, yeah.
- 30:53SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh my God, you mean I could have just walked away?
- 30:56SPEAKER_01: What?
- 30:57SPEAKER_00: So that's changed for you now.
- 30:58SPEAKER_00: You feel like now you're free to actually make new decisions?
- 31:03SPEAKER_01: Yes, you can pivot up.
- 31:05SPEAKER_01: I pivot all the time.
- 31:06SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, I pivot all the time.
- 31:08SPEAKER_01: Yes, we're yeah, we have a right to change our mind.
- 31:11SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you want to change your mind, and sometimes, Adrian, it still feels uncomfortable.
- 31:16SPEAKER_01: Like, I just moved to California, and sometimes I'm like, okay, change my mind.
- 31:22SPEAKER_01: But no, I think my guys are like, okay, Shannon, you're you're you're going a little crazy with this.
- 31:26SPEAKER_01: Like, we need you to have a little bit of stick to it, a little bit more patience.
- 31:31SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, don't just change your mind for everything.
- 31:33SPEAKER_01: Because now that I'm a lot more aligned and more um clear and um more in my purpose, that is gonna require some patience.
- 31:43SPEAKER_01: It's not like um you made a bad decision, you know.
- 31:47SPEAKER_01: You some some decisions are good, they just take time to uh to develop and evolve.
- 31:52SPEAKER_01: But yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 31:54SPEAKER_00: That that really is true.
- 31:55SPEAKER_00: Do you still go to church?
- 31:57SPEAKER_01: Well, there are no churches here, but uh but you did before you moved to California.
- 32:04SPEAKER_01: Oh, totally did, totally did.
- 32:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, we will still watch on occasion.
- 32:10SPEAKER_00: You at the end of the class, we were on the phone, we were having a conversation, and you were so you were so upset because you were like, Adrian, how come I can't hear my guys?
- 32:21SPEAKER_00: I want to hear my guys.
- 32:23SPEAKER_00: Why aren't my guys talking to me?
- 32:24SPEAKER_00: And at the same time, we would be talking about like your church and and all these things that you were doing, and it was really interesting because I'm gonna actually jump to the end of the story and then I'll kind of roll it back for a second.
- 32:34SPEAKER_00: But this is I I love talking about you to other people because it's so hilarious to me.
- 32:39SPEAKER_00: We were on a long conversation about how you could not connect with your guides and you didn't understand why they didn't want to talk to you or how you were supposed to connect with them.
- 32:48SPEAKER_00: And I'm just like, listen, when you hear them the first time, if you listen, they will give you more until then, until you actually listen to what they're telling you, nothing's gonna happen.
- 32:57SPEAKER_00: So I think the next thing you were telling me that you kind of got some information, but you weren't sure if it was accurate or not, and you were still in the space of I just want to hear them like you do.
- 33:07SPEAKER_00: I mean, it it was big.
- 33:09SPEAKER_00: Like for you, this was just like life was just horrible because you could not talk to your guides.
- 33:16SPEAKER_00: And I think I didn't talk to you for about six months.
- 33:18SPEAKER_00: I think we we emailed back and forth, but I didn't talk, I didn't hear your voice for about six months because I know it was in autumn.
- 33:25SPEAKER_00: I think this was like in March.
- 33:27SPEAKER_00: I think we're speaking again in October, and we're on the phone, and the conversation, the energy is so different, and you're like, Yeah, my God said this, this, and this, and they said that, and I'm just like listening, not in my head.
- 33:40SPEAKER_00: And I'm as you're talking, I'm kind of leaving the conversation a little bit because I'm like, something's not right, something, something's off.
- 33:47SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to figure out what's off.
- 33:49SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, okay, hold on.
- 33:51SPEAKER_00: It isn't she the same person now.
- 33:53SPEAKER_00: I have a lot of students, but I I'm I'm close to you, I know you.
- 33:56SPEAKER_00: So I'm sitting here thinking, maybe I'm getting her mixed up with somebody else, but I could have sworn we were on the phone and she was like, Adrian, I can't hear my guys.
- 34:04SPEAKER_00: Why can't I hear my guys?
- 34:06SPEAKER_00: What am I supposed to do?
- 34:07SPEAKER_00: So and I'm like, but you sit in here talking as if they have conversations, like what?
- 34:12SPEAKER_00: And then I was like, hold on.
- 34:13SPEAKER_00: I I remember I interrupted you and I was like, give me a hold on.
- 34:16SPEAKER_00: Wasn't it you and I that just had a conversation back in March about you not talking to your guys?
- 34:20SPEAKER_00: And you were like, Yeah, it was like a matter of fact for you that yeah, that was the past.
- 34:28SPEAKER_00: This is now, Adrian, catch up.
- 34:30SPEAKER_00: That was fascinating.
- 34:32SPEAKER_00: That was fascinating at the same time.
- 34:34SPEAKER_00: You're doing all this church stuff at the at the same time that you're trying to connect to your guides and connecting to your guides.
- 34:40SPEAKER_00: And I was just wondering how you reconcile that.
- 34:45SPEAKER_00: Like, is it does is it cohesive?
- 34:47SPEAKER_00: Does it work together, or did you actually have to separate?
- 34:51SPEAKER_01: Yes, no, it's totally works together because what people who aren't in church don't know, and I know because I had this conversation with my uncle, who was really kind of like, oh, you ladies in church, you believe X, Y, Z, and it's hogwash, basically.
- 35:09SPEAKER_01: What people don't realize is how being in church, worshiping, especially like doing high praise and um this kind of thing, how much it raises your vibration, it really uplifts you and the spirit, you can feel the spirit like around you.
- 35:27SPEAKER_01: They call it the spirit of God, so it's just a different A.
- 35:30SPEAKER_01: Um, and so that never stopped.
- 35:34SPEAKER_01: That that never stopped.
- 35:36SPEAKER_01: Um, but after taking your class and I started meditating more, and you taught us this thing about going into gamma, which is like when you're my mind, it goes really, really fast.
- 35:47SPEAKER_01: And so I just kind of one day I just sat and uh went into gamma, as you say, and stuff was just coming, and so yeah, they are definitely not mutually exclusive exclusive, but that is how that happened.
- 36:04SPEAKER_01: It was actually from you saying going into gamma or something like that, and then that happens, and then I took a spiritual trip to Japan, and that is kind of like a sacred place for me, and that is when I heard the voice loud and clear, and it was like a full conversation.
- 36:24SPEAKER_01: I can hear them so much more clearly when I'm in Japan, it's weird.
- 36:29SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, that's how that happened.
- 36:32SPEAKER_01: It it went from kind of like an intentional thing where I would take my mind to that to that different different um wavelength, and then it it kind of spontaneously happened in um in Japan, and that was the first experience I had talking to them, but yeah, stopped.
- 36:52SPEAKER_01: I was still um following along and you know getting the good word.
- 36:57SPEAKER_01: I don't do it so much anymore.
- 36:59SPEAKER_01: Um, but but yeah, that's how that that's happened, and I remember us having that conversation.
- 37:06SPEAKER_01: But I don't know if I ever got a chance to tell you, like, yeah, one day it just happened.
- 37:10SPEAKER_00: No, you were just one day talking to me as if this had been the conversation since the day I knew you, and I was like, excuse me, like I had to stop and and re-go back into my mind and ask you what the hell is happening right now, you know.
- 37:23SPEAKER_01: I didn't even remember that I was that issue.
- 37:26SPEAKER_01: But now that you're saying it, yeah, I do remember being frustrated, like, how in the world?
- 37:30SPEAKER_01: Like it's Adrian's too, like me, I don't know what I thought it was gonna be like, but it's kind of like you get like spirit FOMO, like you're talking to God, it's like I don't hear anything.
- 37:48SPEAKER_01: How does that work?
- 37:49SPEAKER_01: And it's so funny because when I was going back through my things in Cincinnati, I had so many church books.
- 37:57SPEAKER_01: How to hear from God, how to know when God is speaking to you.
- 38:01SPEAKER_01: These are questions that Christians ask themselves all the time.
- 38:05SPEAKER_01: And we can call it God.
- 38:06SPEAKER_01: If you say guys, they will be like, Oh, I don't really know what that means.
- 38:09SPEAKER_01: It's all universal source energy.
- 38:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I had had all these books, and they would say, do this and do that, but there's nothing like being able to be at a higher vibration and actually meditating to get that real connection with um your helpers on the other side.
- 38:27SPEAKER_00: That's so awesome.
- 38:29SPEAKER_00: It's a great story.
- 38:30SPEAKER_00: Just you overcoming everything, you know, everything that came your way and being able to get on the other side of it and um and me being able to be there.
- 38:40SPEAKER_00: I can't say since the beginning, but since the beginning of your journey, and there was something that you said to me that it the it's the information that stuck with me, not the details.
- 38:55SPEAKER_00: But I think we were we had just finished doing a healing, and I told you you would know when you knew, and you wrote something down, and you wrote it in a book, and you found the book later on, and you like got the exact date of something.
- 39:07SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
- 39:09SPEAKER_01: Oh, so yes, yes, yes, yes.
- 39:10SPEAKER_01: So our friend, our deceased ex.
- 39:15SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it's so funny.
- 39:18SPEAKER_01: Um, because all this stuff happened at one time.
- 39:22SPEAKER_01: So his voice was the first voice, and so I love him for this.
- 39:28SPEAKER_01: I love him for this, like total forgiveness, like it's all good.
- 39:31SPEAKER_01: We are good.
- 39:34SPEAKER_01: I love him for this.
- 39:35SPEAKER_01: His voice was the first voice that I heard Claire audience in my life.
- 39:41SPEAKER_01: Like I had never heard it.
- 39:42SPEAKER_01: That is how I knew that I was, as people say, psychic.
- 39:48SPEAKER_01: He had been gone for maybe a week or two, and I heard this voice talking to me, and I was like, I'm going crazy.
- 39:56SPEAKER_01: So this was before the guides.
- 39:59SPEAKER_01: So I thought maybe I'm supposed to be a medium.
- 40:01SPEAKER_01: I heard that was the first voice.
- 40:04SPEAKER_01: His was the very first voice I heard um in spirit, and I was like, I'm gonna roll with this, and so I've never told this story publicly.
- 40:14SPEAKER_01: This is really something.
- 40:15SPEAKER_01: Um I was like, if this is really you have questions because I need help.
- 40:25SPEAKER_01: And so I asked him a date.
- 40:28SPEAKER_01: I said, I need you to help me.
- 40:30SPEAKER_01: What is the date for when um something was gonna happen?
- 40:35SPEAKER_01: And I wrote down the date, and he said, I want you to get a pen.
- 40:39SPEAKER_01: And I so I went and got a pen.
- 40:40SPEAKER_01: And he said, I want you to write this down.
- 40:42SPEAKER_01: So I wrote it down, and so um I did all that, and then months later, I was going through my journal and I was like, What is why is this page empty?
- 40:53SPEAKER_01: Because I'm I'm an avid journaler, so every page was like talked about a pull.
- 40:57SPEAKER_01: So there was a page that was like half empty, but it had the stain on it.
- 40:59SPEAKER_01: It's like it's today, it's today.
- 41:03SPEAKER_01: I'm like, that's weird and random.
- 41:06SPEAKER_01: And sure enough, sure, if my name is not Sally, that event happens on that day.
- 41:13SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh my god, that really was him.
- 41:17SPEAKER_01: And so that was when I really started like totally opening up.
- 41:22SPEAKER_01: That was before I first started taking your class, but him passing over to everything was orchestrated, everything was divinely orchestrated, and things just started happening.
- 41:31SPEAKER_01: Lockstep boom, boom, boom.
- 41:32SPEAKER_01: That's the um that happened.
- 41:34SPEAKER_01: Had the interest call with you, I got the phone call for the urinus eclipse.
- 41:39SPEAKER_01: That's that really straight.
- 41:41SPEAKER_01: Hey, in the Bible, it says God will make the crooked places straight.
- 41:44SPEAKER_01: I still had a crooked place, and it had to be straightened out.
- 41:48SPEAKER_01: They're like, No, we can't have you thinking one thing that's still not true, Shannon.
- 41:53SPEAKER_01: Let us bring you the truth, and you need to deal with this straight up, no chaser.
- 41:57SPEAKER_01: And so um, I got the unfiltered version because everything needed to be healed.
- 42:02SPEAKER_01: You can't heal stuff if you're still living under an illusion.
- 42:04SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, that he was the first person to talk to me.
- 42:07SPEAKER_01: So, yes, congratulations, you got through.
- 42:10SPEAKER_01: Um, he is that whore, but yeah, that's what that was.
- 42:14SPEAKER_01: That's what that was.
- 42:15SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, he's like, Congratulations, you got through.
- 42:19SPEAKER_00: You are funny.
- 42:20SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness, yes, but since I, you know, it's so funny, we talk about forgiveness stuff.
- 42:25SPEAKER_01: I'm to the point now where I was able to even give him healing um in spirit on the other side.
- 42:32SPEAKER_01: Um, and I was willing to do that, and it was helpful, and um, you know, because he was hurt and lost as well.
- 42:39SPEAKER_01: And so when you heal, and I remember never forget you said this.
- 42:43SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna steal it, I'm gonna use it.
- 42:45SPEAKER_01: That people talk about forgiveness, but you said, Adrian, when you heal, you don't need to forgive.
- 42:52SPEAKER_01: You don't even feel that you don't even need to forgive.
- 42:54SPEAKER_01: You said that, yay, I love it, and it's true.
- 42:57SPEAKER_01: So I'm like, yeah, for sake of conversation, yeah, I forgave.
- 43:01SPEAKER_01: But when you heal, like that is like real, true love.
- 43:05SPEAKER_01: That's the real love.
- 43:07SPEAKER_01: When you can see things from a spiritual perspective, see their higher self as your higher self, see them and see the arrangements that maybe you made.
- 43:18SPEAKER_01: And that's the perspective that I live from now.
- 43:20SPEAKER_01: So there he said there's forgive, like forgive what?
- 43:24SPEAKER_01: Like, we did that.
- 43:25SPEAKER_00: That's exactly what it feels like too.
- 43:27SPEAKER_00: Like when you heal, you're like, what do I need to forgive?
- 43:29SPEAKER_00: You good?
- 43:30SPEAKER_00: I'm good, we're good.
- 43:31SPEAKER_01: For good, yeah, we did his thing.
- 43:33SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
- 43:33SPEAKER_01: I learned so much.
- 43:34SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, look at my life now.
- 43:36SPEAKER_01: Like, I wouldn't would I take it back?
- 43:38SPEAKER_01: I probably changed some things because you know, in hindsight, I'm like, oh, I was supposed to do XYZ, but is there really any supposed to film, you know?
- 43:46SPEAKER_01: No, it's all about the experience, isn't it?
- 43:49SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 43:50SPEAKER_01: And I was like, No, I think I want to go go hard or go home.
- 43:55SPEAKER_01: I walked away, but then I wouldn't have had this break, break.
- 44:00SPEAKER_01: So shattering experience that apparently I needed to have for some reason.
- 44:05SPEAKER_00: And it has freed you.
- 44:06SPEAKER_00: It's freed you to move and start creating your own space, your own life, start creating your own healing business, start create, create, create, create.
- 44:15SPEAKER_01: When you met me, you were like, you're gonna recognize yourself in two years.
- 44:19SPEAKER_01: And you're so deep and you're so dope.
- 44:21SPEAKER_01: I'm like, it's it's it's true.
- 44:24SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yeah, who is that girl?
- 44:26SPEAKER_01: I can give her a talking to.
- 44:29SPEAKER_01: But I have compassion for her too.
- 44:31SPEAKER_01: What was she?
- 44:32SPEAKER_01: What was she at?
- 44:32SPEAKER_01: You know, and you know, no judgment.
- 44:35SPEAKER_01: This is a no judgment zone.
- 44:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like to go back and I like to go back to to my past self and thank my past self for everything you've done to get me to where I am.
- 44:47SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 44:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
- 44:50SPEAKER_01: Right, you know, I really appreciate you bringing that up because that is a story that was profound in who I am right now.
- 44:59SPEAKER_01: Profound.
- 45:00SPEAKER_01: Like we wouldn't even what would we be talking about if we don't talk about that?
- 45:04SPEAKER_01: That made such a difference, just in the trajectory of my life.
- 45:07SPEAKER_01: Now it started when my mom passed away in 2020, and then my dog, oh, I was like, God, who do I miss for my mom or my dog?
- 45:14SPEAKER_01: It was a really breakthrough moment.
- 45:16SPEAKER_01: And I think um Saturn was in Jupiter.
- 45:19SPEAKER_01: That was like a really big teaching year for so many people.
- 45:23SPEAKER_01: That was hard, but this was like this was this was it.
- 45:29SPEAKER_01: It was like that was just preparation for 2022, which is what really made me seek the healing.
- 45:36SPEAKER_01: That that 2020 was kind of like getting tapped on the shoulder, maybe slapped around a little bit, but 2022 put me in the seat.
- 45:44SPEAKER_01: Like, no, we're gone.
- 45:45SPEAKER_01: We're we're leaving, we're leaving the station.
- 45:47SPEAKER_01: This journey is is is transforming right now.
- 45:50SPEAKER_01: You're not gonna be the same person.
- 45:51SPEAKER_01: I know I'm not.
- 45:53SPEAKER_00: You know, everybody has their own journey that they have to go through to get to where they are.
- 45:59SPEAKER_00: And one of the things that I really wanted with Making Miracles Happen, the live event and the podcast is if there's anyone that can listen to these podcasts and go, I don't have to suffer to get to that point.
- 46:12SPEAKER_00: Like I can learn from the person who's speaking, I can learn from the story.
- 46:16SPEAKER_00: That is amazing.
- 46:17SPEAKER_00: That is awesome.
- 46:19SPEAKER_00: But for those who don't get it and they have signed up to do something big, they've signed up to have it be difficult, they signed up for the challenge.
- 46:28SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you listen to this and it just lets you know that no matter how hard your challenge is, no matter how deep and dark you have to go, the universe is gonna keep tapping till you get it and you get on the other side.
- 46:40SPEAKER_00: So, either way, whether you listen to this and it makes your life easier, or you listen to this and it makes you get through the hard parts, that's the whole point is to be able to get to the other side of what I feel like is that miracle.
- 46:52SPEAKER_00: So thank you for sharing your story.
- 46:54SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for asking me to to share it because um yeah, it it it it really is not uncommon.
- 47:06SPEAKER_01: It's not uncommon, and people can learn from it.
- 47:09SPEAKER_01: Um, and I hope they take my experience to heart and um just change the the way they look at it.
- 47:15SPEAKER_01: You're not a victim.
- 47:17SPEAKER_01: You got this.
- 47:18SPEAKER_00: What's a miracle to you?
- 47:19SPEAKER_00: Explain to us your definition of a miracle.
- 47:23SPEAKER_01: A miracle is when you want something to happen and you do absolutely nothing to make it happen other than ask.
- 47:36SPEAKER_01: The miracle happens when you take zero action and you get it anyway.
- 47:41SPEAKER_01: That's a miracle.
- 47:42SPEAKER_01: That is the universe, the unseen at work, and they're everywhere.
- 47:48SPEAKER_01: They're everywhere.
- 47:50SPEAKER_01: I got it just happened to me the other day.
- 47:52SPEAKER_01: Are you kidding me?
- 47:54SPEAKER_01: That easy, you just think something, you say it, and somebody appears that gives you exactly what you wanted, like you wanted it.
- 48:02SPEAKER_01: Like, okay, thank you.
- 48:04SPEAKER_01: I just show gratitude, like I didn't even know that we were doing that today, but I appreciate it.
- 48:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, stuff like that.
- 48:12SPEAKER_01: I just get excited.
- 48:14SPEAKER_01: Thanks for my little mini miracles.
- 48:17SPEAKER_00: If you had a channeled message, what would that message be?
- 48:22SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
- 48:23SPEAKER_01: Um let's see, let's get one.
- 48:26SPEAKER_01: Let's get a channel message.
- 48:30SPEAKER_01: Talk to people everywhere.
- 48:31SPEAKER_01: Go towards the light.
- 48:32SPEAKER_01: The Lord, the light is where you will find your true self.
- 48:39SPEAKER_01: The light is where you will find that what you seek.
- 48:42SPEAKER_01: If you're wondering what the light is, the light is what is at your core at peace.
- 48:47SPEAKER_01: There's no irritation, no anger, no strife or sadness.
- 48:53SPEAKER_01: When you sense the core of peace, you will sense that all is aligned, all is right in your world.
- 48:59SPEAKER_01: And you go in that direction, you will find exactly what it is you're looking for.
- 49:10SPEAKER_02: Let's make miracles happen.