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Football Friday! Iowa vs. Oregon, Tom Kakert talks Hawkeyes & Mike Palm from Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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All right, Good afternoon. Welcome to Miller and Condon on
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a Football Friday. The Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Trent Condon and Ken Miller for the next two hours to talk
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sports with you. Thanks for starting your
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afternoon with us. Here's what's coming up on our
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program. We will speak with Tom Cacert
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from hawkeyereport.com. Tom will stop by at about
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12:25-ish. Oregon and Iowa, they collide
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2:30 tomorrow afternoon at Kinnick Stadium.
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We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the hoops
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tonight. Tom Cacert on Iowa related
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topics coming up here at 12:25. Then we'll head to Las Vegas.
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Mike Palm, the VP of Operations at Circa Sports, joins us every
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Friday. We'll go behind the counter with
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Mike. I look forward to doing that.
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Bama, Bob, Trent and I will kick around some of the games in
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college football to start hour number two and then Eugene Repay
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who covers Iowa State. He was at Hilton last night to
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see TJ squad dispatch scrambling.
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Talk about that. We'll get into TCU, Iowa State
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as well as they will play at the same time 2:30 tomorrow as the
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and then head into their buy with only two games remaining.
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We'll make some picks and we'll turn things over to off the
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bench with Sean and Lucas coming up at 2:00.
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Well, Thursday Night Football, while his behind his was an
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absolute awful game to watch. He watched it all.
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Of course, but it was tough. That's bad football, Bonex.
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I mean, he says I, I that offense is is putrid.
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I am, I think Sean Payton. I don't know why he continues to
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get credit for being one of the greatest offensive minds in the
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game. If he is, please prove it.
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Any Sunday be fine. You just start going.
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But Bonex was not good. Often their receivers are
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pedestrian at best. Running back.
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I love Dobbins, love the offensive line, defenses elite
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and then they got the best record in the NFL and I don't
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feel worth a crap. Today And they're a team that
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even feel comfortable and then the divisional round, win a game
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even no. No, absolutely not.
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That's where I am. I look like they look like a one
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and done or to me, whether they play on opening weekend or not.
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There's problems. Yes, it's not on the defensive
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side of the ball because that's. Elite and that problem is number
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10. Yes, he's a big part of it,
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there's no question. Now, I tried to tell you, you
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know, older quarterback tutelage of McVeigh, not sure how much
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upside there was. Maybe what you saw last year was
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about the the top level that you're going to get.
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I would sign for that. And he's not even that guy right
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now. The receivers are a problem.
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They're a big problem and the fact that they decided, you
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know, we're just going to go with these guys when they could
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have made moves. I mean, Waddle seemingly was
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ticketed. Shaheen, they could have.
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I mean, he he's a former St. for crying out loud.
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Sean Payton's got the hotline number to the Saints.
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If they wanted to make a move. I just thought they would do
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something they didn't. So look at you still have to
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beat the Chiefs to win the West. They'll get that opportunity
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next Sunday. But this was not.
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This was bad football, awful football.
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No doubt. I'm not sure that the best team
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won the game last night. I mean, the punter for the
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Denver Broncos. I've never seen a worst punt in
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my life. I mean, that's not hyperbolic
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because normally. I mean, we've seen that it feels
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like every couple of years. Shake a couple, sure, but off
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the inside? Of your foot in the inside of
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your foot like that and how it actually got that much distance.
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Oh my God. That was kind of the other crazy
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thing because then you look at the replay.
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Maybe my favorite part though is they cut over the sideline.
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The special teams coach must have been one asked me what the
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hell happened. And he goes, I don't know.
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He was as baffled, I think as the rest of us the way that one
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played out. I have one thing I need to bring
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up to you, and this is something that might rankle you a little
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bit because you and I, I think for the most part, don't want to
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push gold guys out. No, no.
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Maybe me more so. But I'm normally there with you.
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Let me keep going. People still going to pay him?
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I'm fine with it. When when we talked about who?
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Oh. Michaels.
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He's bad. He misses so many things.
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Him and Tim Brando. Brando's a different.
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Level Brando is a different bad. Bad, Yeah.
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Level of bad, Yeah. I mean, I, I, I, you know, Al
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Michaels is. He's just misses so much
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anymore, and that's the part he was always so sharp.
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He was always. 1980s were a long time ago, he.
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He was locked in. He was as good of kind of
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knowing everything going on. And then you look at Buck
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Tariko, some of the voices we have in those most prominent
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roles, and he's not close. No he anymore.
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Touchback on the one that went out of the out of the one yard
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we. Went out.
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The one now another punt because, well, that's we have 14
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punts to talk about, That's basically the most exciting part
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of this game was the one that went off the side of his foot,
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he said. It went out at the, I don't
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know, he missed it by 4 yards. Just little things, but they had
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up and then. But you know what was good when
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I think back to the broadcast last night and maybe Herb St.
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realizes this because he's he worked with Brent toward the
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end, right? And I and I think he's and
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obviously his relationship with Lee Corso talk about, I don't
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know, he's respecting your elders the right term, but but
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but when he talks to Michaels about his career, you know, when
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he's doing that with at different points in the game,
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and that's been all season long. When he brings up some well, you
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did Monday night baseball, you know, and it and let him down
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that path and he did. Now Michaels was phenomenal on
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Monday, but this is the early 80s we're talking about.
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He sells his. Veteran broadcasters, well, and
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that was another thing you took it right out of my notes is Herb
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St. does an incredible job of that.
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He has to do so much more as opposed to if he had one of the
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aforementioned guys in the booth with him, he has to carry that
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broadcast. I don't know.
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There's some NFL only fans that don't like him because he's a
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college guy. Those people are idiots.
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But that aside, Herb Street is tremendous, and he goes to
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another level of what he does with because he has to do a lot
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to pick up a guy that's missing things.
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And you don't want to talk down to them, you don't want to
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demean them, you don't want to embarrass them when they miss
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things. But then you got it kind of
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cleared up on the broadcast. And Herb St. does a tremendous.
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Job, yeah, he does that and and doesn't embarrass his his play
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by play. Game if if L wants to keep doing
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Thursday night and. And I think it was awesome too.
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That's. Fine, but the hope of him coming
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back to a more prominent role, getting another Super Bowl?
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Unfortunately, I think those days have.
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Passed. I think they are too.
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Do you know what my problem with Amazon was yesterday?
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Do you know who the Amazon Player of the game was?
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The Amazon Player of the Game last night was.
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I have no idea. Don't just make.
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I mean, who would be the last? Person just to get it, Yes,
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Well, he threw the touchdown, I guess.
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Can you not find anybody on the defense?
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Right. Yeah, I mean that that's.
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Zach Allen. Yeah, yeah, any of them.
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Benito. Benito.
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Says, you know, you've been singing his praises and watching
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him. I just want to watch more
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closely 'cause he you're. Go on it.
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Yeah, dude, it's. Incredible.
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He is him and Cooper. Cooper was the 7th round pick
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from Ohio State and I guess he had a a medical issue which
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scared a bunch of teams away that caused him to drop down the
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draft boards. But the defensive line is elite.
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They really are. That's a great defense.
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That's just and the and the Defensive Player of the Year's.
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Out. You know they're going to get
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better when Sir Tan comes back and that might be after the bye
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week. So they'll play the Chiefs next
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Sunday and that's a that's AI mean.
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They obviously if they play like they play last night, they're
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going to get embarrassed, going to get embarrassed anyway. 325
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window for that one is it? Yes, how good.
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That's where it should be. Trent.
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You know what worries me about tomorrow at Kinnick Stadium?
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Everybody loves the Iowa Hawk. I, I everybody.
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I mentioned that in passing earlier in the week.
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This is from handicappers, yes to national people did.
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You hear Herb St. when he was on McAfee.
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Yes. I got a secret for you.
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The Iowa Hawk guys are going to beat the Oregon, he was
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whispering. I mean, just for, you know, to
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get his point across, I guess. But everybody loves the Hawks
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this week. I can't stand that for Iowa.
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I'm right there with you. It's the trendy dog pick.
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Everybody. Everybody is talking about
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Kinnick. What Kinnick's like when it gets
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under the light. They're right.
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And it will be under the lights. The second-half, fourth quarter
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for sure, it'll be dark. Yes, all the things that we know
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the nation's talking about and those are usually the spots.
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Those, I mean, I go back to Week 2 when everybody in the world
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handicapping wise was on Duke. I can't see Illinois.
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Oh yeah. And Illinois found a way to win.
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Illinois found a way to win. They they turned it over what,
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three times inside the 20 yard line in the first half and the
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the route was on from there as Illinois just dominated that
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game. It's not going to matter between
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the lines. I.
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Know, but it's so many. Times when you see this.
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Yes. When everybody's going one way,
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what do you do? We talk about that often, don't
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we? All the.
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Time. It just seems like Oh my God,
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basketball from last night I watched the first half of.
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Drake I watched the little bit of the first half and then the
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closing stretch of regulation. Did you see the down?
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Well then I had to put the kids down during overtime, so I
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missed. It I missed that too.
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Well, down the stretch I didn't make a shot.
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Just 8 minutes without a field goal down the stretch.
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Chance to put that thing away. It's so different because I'm
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seeing these guys for the first time.
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They're all new, right? Right there again, like we did
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last. Year, yeah, again, I don't know.
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I mean, it was going to it was going to there was going to come
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a year. And I'm not saying necessarily
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this is it, but it might be, you know, that debris just, you
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know, the beat goes on and and McCallum the beat goes on.
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We'll see if that's the way with Henderson or not.
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But you know, again, it's it's all new names.
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The more you watch them, more comfortable, you'll become
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familiar with them. I was familiar with the
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broadcasters and I like that part.
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A lot of Emma Necker and Larry Morgan doing the game last night
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and then flipped over and watched, oh, a fair bit of Iowa
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State. I had the TV going with the NFL
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and that Iowa State on the iPad, and I just wanted to play.
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I know that Monday night they will.
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I want to see this team tested because they got a lot of really
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good parts, a lot of really good parts.
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And there was a part and it just so unti I mean, they won by 40,
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but it's so unlike an Otsel burger team that, you know, I
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watched a lot of the first half and they just weren't overly
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engaged like you anticipate. I mean they bring in their.
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Food a little bit you. Mean they bring in new guys
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every year. It's not that it's not the buy
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in factory because they all buy in.
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And that's why I think I just maybe I have higher expectations
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against these awful teams that they're going to do that.
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And they didn't until the what, the closing 4 minutes of the
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first half and then they opened it up from there.
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And then the second-half was a route.
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But it was just weird because so used to them doing whatever they
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want, imposing their will. And for the 1st 15 minutes of
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the game, yeah, that really wasn't the case.
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Lipsy with the the fake, fake pass and then coming back to the
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rim early. So.
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Good. Yeah, he's really.
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Is and Jefferson, I love him with the ball in his hands, top
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of the key, distributing what he can do.
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He's just, he's so versatile. He's so there's not many players
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in college basketball like him and his skill set is going to go
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a long way because they need Joshua Jefferson not just to be
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good, not to be a touch better than if they're going to take
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another step this year. My Chilovich, obviously a big
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part of that, but Jefferson has to be a star.
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I. Think no question, no question,
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the conference is unbelievable. BYU is really good.
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Arizona is really good. We know where Houston fits in
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this in the grand scheme of things.
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Kansas place tonight, right? North Carolina, and I don't know
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where the game is. Is it a neutral court?
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You know, it's Kansas, N it's early.
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It's 6:00. Kansas.
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It is at North Carolina. Is that right?
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All right, yeah. At the Ding Dome.
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OK. Oh.
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True. Yeah, I like that.
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Road game. Good job Kansas, and good job
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Carolina making that happen. Yep, like that.
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Absolutely. So get a little taste of that
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earlier just to see where Kansas is, because they've got a
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freshman too that's blown everybody way.
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Well, they're Kansas, of course. They've got a freshman blown
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everybody way. You would anticipate that she'd
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do that every single. Year Darren Peterson.
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Yes. That's the kid 6 kid out of.
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Ohio, you see that's where he's from.
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Wonder what he got paid? Badunga is back.
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Yep, really liked him at times a year ago but.
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Not enough times. Right.
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Yeah. Not consistent.
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Another year older, though. Rosario's another freshman
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that's gonna be playing a lot. A lot of new faces, though.
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That's just college basketball. It is and trying to follow these
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guys around where they go. How did you do on your pick
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speaking? Of that, we finally had a
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winning day. Did you?
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We went three and two. Well.
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It's a start. It's a start.
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Yes. You got to walk before you're
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running, I said. And that was the case again last
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night as we finally put one in the win column.
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We got The Pioneers. Told you, I brought all those D2
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guys. I like that.
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Washington team only won by 14. He's getting 27 1/2 at the
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Raiders. Yeah, had North Texas losses.
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How about this one? Texas Southern?
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I'm getting 30 1/2 at the half A and M41 Texas Southern 36.
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Start counting your money, right?
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Yeah, you're home free. second-half, A&M puts up 63
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points S scores them 63 to 34 and we don't get the cover
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there. And then the college football
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game. That South Florida team's
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incredible. They didn't touch the ball
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offensively, they're up 14. Nothing.
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Is that right? Yes, they, I think they had the
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ball at 1.4. It was like 13 plays and I think
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they're up 3513 or whatever it was at that time, which is
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stupid. They put up points in bunches.
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They're fun to watch. They are not a whole lot of
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defense, but that's all right. Entertainers.
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You can outscore, yes, And that's what they're doing, no
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doubt about it. All right, Tom Caker coming up
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on Iowa, They've got Western Illinois tonight.
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The Leathernecks. This is tough for Boeing camp.
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These are the two teams that he follows the course.
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So he'll he'll be in the building tonight.
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Yeah, he does. He does cover a lot, cover a lot
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of Leatherneck basketball. Do you see it?
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Speaking about Bowen Camp, the Japanese superstar that's that's
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posted, you can start trying to sign him as a it's either today
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or tomorrow. First baseman, third first
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infielder. He plays first or third base and
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apparently he puts like Otani type numbers, except he doesn't
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pitch. OK, yeah, guess where he's
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going. Yeah, Manitaca.
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That's Muratami. That's him, Muratami.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, A. 40 day negotiating window starts
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tomorrow and he'll be a Dodger. I guess.
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I guess we'll kill you to be a mariner or anybody.
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A blue Jay. Blue Jay, a twin.
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Well. Royal, we know that's not gonna
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happen. Probably not.
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Not this year. All right, we'll take your time
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out. We will come back.
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We'll be joined by Tom Cacert. Mike Palm is going to join us.
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I have to believe that the books needed the Broncos last night.
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No. You don't think so?
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No, no, no, no, no. Boy, I sure didn't see too many
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people betting Denver. I saw a lot of folks taking the
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points. When I saw betting slips
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yesterday, the the muddy divide, it was like 68%.
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Was it on the Broncos? Yeah, they're a favorite at
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home. Yeah, short week Thursday night.
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And the Raiders stink. They do.
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How many people like to be like me and hold your nose and take
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Johnston tonight. Yeah, Valley Johnston 96.9 is
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I'll bring you play by play action to the quarterfinals.
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Valley in Johnston getting together #3 seed dragon 6
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seeded. Valley Valley's been a little
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bit banged up here towards the end of the season trying to get
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healthy. Johnston they're prolific, a
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quarterback. I know you and I is interested,
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been able to sling it around so should be a fun one out there.
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We'll take the air at 6:50 with the pregame, 7:00 with the kick
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off the winner to the Dome. Yeah, it's Dome weekend.
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Here's, by the way, it's the final night of KX and O's
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football Friday night. Here's where the crew will be.
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Joe Stacey, Nathan Fisher anchoring it.
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Want to give these guys a plug? Joey Jude.
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Assessie's got Iowa City West at Dowling.
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He's got you covered there. Joel Miles will be at Waukee to
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watch Sioux City East Valley Johnson.
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Andrew Barber will be there along with Trent who's on the
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bull Newton at Gilbert. Dwayne Johnsons got you covered.
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Mike Young is going to be in Prairie City, Monroe for this
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one tonight. PCM is hosting Wilton and Kurt
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Kessling SE Bogu Kesslings. Is he a local guy because he's
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driving to Iowa City. He'll be at Iowa City Liberty to
17:34
watch Sep and and Liberty, they'll do battle and those
17:38
games will be covered football Friday night, Stacey and Fisher
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as our coverage. The curtain comes down before we
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head to the Dome, and you'll be at the Dome for both of them,
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right? Yes, most semifinals next Friday
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and then the championship Friday the following Friday right here
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on KXO. Oh, nice.
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For both of them. No, no, just the championship.
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Championship game. Gotcha.
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Because we have things going on, but there is no programming on
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that Friday night of 5A championship, no wild, no Iowa
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State women. So we will put the 5A
18:06
championship game on the air here on KX and O.
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That is coming up though in a couple weeks.
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Lot of football before that. And come on, Stacy.
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I mean, no correspondence sent up to Osage.
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The Green Devils are trying to get to the Dome for the first
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time ever. I think they missed Trent.
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It's a Miss Alburnet. The pirates are coming to town.
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No. It's a tough match, it is.
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First ever meeting between Alburnet and Osage.
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Where's Alburnet, Trent? Over by Cedar Rapids.
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Is it so we might come in and alburnet?
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Yes, absolutely. I'm sure we do.
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That's awesome. Well, we got a call yesterday
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from Davenport. It's good.
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The state. Love it.
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Absolutely on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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I'm Miller Condon, Welcome back Iowa Sports Radio Network, Des
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Moines sports station, 106.3 K XNO Tom Cacard joins us as he
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does every single Friday. Well, most Friday, if it's not
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Friday's one other day, but he joins Us Weekly.
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We are grateful to that hawkeyereport.com part of on
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three MEDIA. Hey, Tom Trenton, Ken, thank you
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as always for coming on. Get to football in a second.
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I want to start with basketball with you since they'll take the
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floor tonight against Western Illinois, but I want to go back
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to the Robert Morris game and Trent and I were probably way
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over the top but it. Was just so.
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It was just so different to watch a Hawkeye team so
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committed to the defensive end of the floor and the hustle
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needed in order to pull that off.
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The defensive effort that they did, it was refreshing to watch
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that, Tom. Yeah, it was, you know, that was
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a pretty good first, you know, 5-6 minutes for the McCollum era
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when they're out there diving for balls and, and just playing
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really good defense and allowing just two points and scoring 17
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and attacking the basket and just making plays.
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They they that was a, that was a if.
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I think if Ben could have scripted a start, it would have
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looked a lot like that just. Getting off to a great start.
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So now we'll get to Act 2 tonight against Western
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Illinois. Western Illinois and then next
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Friday, a big one, Xavier comes to town and it'll be a first
20:24
probably push. I mean, Western Illinois is
20:26
going to be terrible. There are I think 334 at Ken
20:28
Palm, right in that same range of Bartorvic.
20:31
This is even worse than what you saw out of Robert Morris.
20:33
But a that aside, this basketball team, I know it's one
20:36
game, but just seeing Bennett Sturtz and I know for a lot of
20:39
Hawkeye fans, maybe that was their first glimpse.
20:41
Maybe they didn't catch him in the tournament last year.
20:43
Didn't you watch a whole lot of Drake basketball?
20:45
You just, you can't speed him up.
20:47
He plays at his own pace. He is so smart, so skilled, and
20:51
I think a lot more athletic than a lot of people believe, you
20:53
know? Yeah, how about that dunk, huh?
20:55
I I didn't, I didn't see that coming from him.
20:59
He even joked after after the game had been a while since he'd
21:02
had a lop dunk. So yeah, he's just he's a guy
21:07
you can't speed up. You can't, you know, if he wants
21:10
to go quick, he's going to go quick.
21:11
And he just always under control, never flustered.
21:17
Double team comes at him. He's fine.
21:19
He does. He just he's unflappable.
21:21
And it's interesting. I thought and kind of just, you
21:27
know, one of the the side things that I was wanting is watching
21:31
the game. I was like, Ben's going to have
21:33
to find somebody else that he trusts a little bit eventually
21:37
because he had him out there for 35 minutes in the 30 point game.
21:41
I mean, it's just like maybe he might want to get Combs out
21:46
there or somebody out there to to kind of give some some
21:49
minutes. But he does get him off the ball
21:51
every once in a while. He left Combs bring it up and
21:53
then it goes kind of over into the corner and then stands
21:55
around for about 15 seconds and then he'll come off a screen
21:59
maybe and try and make a play that way.
22:03
Go again, he's unbelievable to watch.
22:05
He truly is well here we go to tomorrow where we're not sure
22:08
what the weather is going to be. I've heard it could be snow,
22:11
could be sleet. It doesn't sound it's like it's
22:13
going to be ideal regardless of what happens.
22:16
It won't be it won't be ideal. So Tom, but but what worries me
22:20
is it's just how many people love Iowa tomorrow and both
22:23
locally and nationally. I mean, you heard Herb St.
22:27
perhaps on McAfee. He's going crazy.
22:29
It's just there's too many people that love the Hawks.
22:32
The moral. Oh, you know how it is with the
22:38
the, the public dog, the public home dog and everybody's jumped
22:42
on. We saw that early this year.
22:44
Remember that Duke? Illinois game, everybody.
22:47
Was on that's true, DeGeneres. Remember that one?
22:53
And it was just like everybody was on, oh, Duke, Duke, Duke.
22:57
And then they just get boat race by like 25 points against
23:01
Illinois. And I, that's immediately my
23:04
thought was like, oh boy, there's too many people on Iowa.
23:08
This is just not good. If you're a Hawk fan and you
23:11
just wish everybody would, would pipe down.
23:13
I know you like the attention and I know you like the love of
23:16
it. But for those of us who dabble
23:18
in the gambling space, this is always bad.
23:21
It's just, it's just bad. You sent me over some props from
23:26
the other side of the river over in Illinois that are available
23:29
on state of Iowa players couple jumped off the page.
23:33
Now start with the passing yardage total.
23:35
I want to Ken take a a blind guessing.
23:37
Yardage for for who? For Mark Gronowski. 100 And the
23:44
the weather's got to be factored into it, 124. 132 1/2 How about
23:49
Dante Moore? 1, 75.
23:54
Two O 4 1/2. So I think Ken's like in the
23:56
under on both of those. The one, though, that jumped out
23:59
outside the passing 1 Kamari Bolton, Tom, he's been so close.
24:03
How many shoestring tackles have got him?
24:05
And the one weak spot of this Oregon team is their
24:08
linebackers. Their linebackers have played
24:10
out of everybody terribly in comparison to the rest of that
24:13
defense. I think Bolton gets one.
24:15
I think he has rips off one of those 4050 yarders, the numbers
24:18
54 1/2. I think if Iowa wins this game,
24:21
yes, Gridowski's got to play well.
24:22
He's going to have to run it well, but I think Kamari Moulton
24:25
has to have a monster performance.
24:26
I love that one at 54 1/2. Yeah, that's not bad.
24:31
You know a friend of mine who may dabble over on the other
24:34
side of the river jumped on Iowa Defensive touchdown +1000.
24:41
Oh, that's fun. In a game like this, it almost
24:44
feels like they have to, right? Yeah, there's the fumble, the
24:48
wet ball, scoop and score kind of thing, something like that.
24:51
Or, you know, Dante Moore, pick six, you know, he reverts back
24:54
to freshman Dante Moore at at UCLA and you know, that's it's
25:00
on the table. So yeah, there may have been a
25:02
dabble in that by by someone someone today.
25:06
You know, since since we're talking sports betting, sports
25:09
wagering and football, did you see that the case got thrown out
25:13
against the against the student athletes that I mean, I like,
25:20
I'm far from a legal expert, but man, I thought they had a slam
25:23
dunk case against the state. I really did and was dead wrong
25:26
apparently. Yeah, that's too bad.
25:30
I, I, I thought so too, because it just seemed like the whole
25:33
thing was was ill conceived and I thought maybe they'd get get
25:39
something done, but apparently not.
25:41
So it's it's just too bad that so many of those guys just got
25:46
ruined, you know, just missed their eligibility.
25:49
I think about like Keaton Anthony, the baseball player, I
25:52
mean, going into the going into the, you know, Big 10 tournament
25:56
and, and that team was really good.
25:59
And, and he's their three hitter, 2 hitter in that lineup.
26:02
And he's gone and boy, he's tearing it up by the way, for,
26:07
for the Phillies, he's moving up.
26:08
So he's he's having a really solid minor League Baseball
26:12
career right now. Tom always loved to read your
26:15
preview over at hawkeyereport.com.
26:17
You really dig in deep into things.
26:19
I'll have people click on the article to read your official
26:22
score prediction for the game. But as you were kind of
26:25
unearthing things and really going under the hood, is there a
26:28
stat, a number, anything that jumped out to you that said, you
26:31
know what, maybe this does help Iowa a little bit.
26:33
Give us give us a little positivity going into 2:30
26:36
tomorrow. Boy, I think special teams are a
26:41
big edge for Iowa. I just do.
26:43
I think that's that's going to be an advantage.
26:46
I don't think they have a kicking game that sticks with
26:49
Iowa. I don't think they have.
26:51
But they've got some talented return guys.
26:53
But they're young and they haven't really done a lot yet.
26:55
Like, you know, the Corian Moore is electric.
26:57
If you've seen him play, he's really good, but he hasn't done
27:02
a lot yet where we Jen is just been electric.
27:06
He's just, he's just every time he I, I swear to you guys, every
27:11
time that another team punts to him, I'm at the edge of my seat
27:17
in the press box. I'm just like, OK, here we go,
27:20
here we go. You know, the, it's just like
27:23
it's watching like, you know, just this carnival ride.
27:27
You don't know, you know, you think it's just going to be
27:30
spectacular at some point, and it usually is.
27:33
It's just he's, he's special. I I'll tell you what I was
27:37
really impressed by, but it probably matter because I would
27:40
doesn't throw the ball very much, but their past defense is
27:44
really good and they got a lot of young players back there, but
27:46
they're, they're really, really good.
27:51
So that's one thing that and, and their, their top three backs
27:55
are all average in like 7 yards a carry, at least some of them
27:59
almost 10. I mean, it's just crazy that
28:02
and, and I think two of the three of them are freshmen.
28:05
So I mean, it's they've just got crazy talent on that team.
28:11
And I haven't even brought up the the Sadiq kid, that tight
28:13
end who's just who'd be a first round picnics in in April.
28:18
Tom Caker, hawkeyereport.com, part of On Three Media.
28:21
Tom, thanks for doing this. As always appreciated.
28:24
We'll talk to you in seven days. Thank you, Tom.
28:26
OK. Thanks guys.
28:27
Yep, good to talk to you, Tom Cakers.
28:29
We check in on the Hawkeyes. We'll take your time out.
28:32
Head to Vegas. Mike Palm next.
28:33
Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
28:37
I'm Hillary Condon. Welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. Wherever you're listening in the
28:41
state of Iowa. Grateful that you are.
28:43
Let's head to Las Vegas, downtown Las Vegas Circus
28:47
Sports. VP of operations at Circus
28:49
Sports, Mike Palm joins us. Mike Trenton, Ken, how are you?
28:53
How are you guys doing? Big game tomorrow.
28:55
Oh yeah, absolutely, no doubt. And everybody's picking Iowa,
28:58
and I wish they weren't because it just bothers me.
29:01
And everybody's going one way, go the other.
29:03
Way with that because yeah every both handicapper it feels like
29:07
and every just national commentator in college football
29:09
all of the Hawkeyes. What are you saying in terms of
29:12
betting splits at Circa? Do you have those numbers and
29:14
seeing? Yeah, it feels like at least in
29:16
kind of the space we live in, everybody's on them.
29:19
Does the betting number state say the same thing, Mike?
29:22
Yeah, we will need Oregon. As of right now, the public is
29:26
on Iowa and the pros are not really involved in this game.
29:30
I don't know if they think that they can get it, can get to 7
29:33
and they're waiting for that. But but the public loves Iowa
29:38
here and we've even seen some decent money line betting on
29:42
Iowa as well. So that's it.
29:44
To your point, Kenny, that gives me a lot of worry.
29:46
Yep, meanwhile, Iowa State takes on TCU and Iowa State's going to
29:50
be probably without 5 defensive starters, Mike, and yet the line
29:54
is not moving significantly. Iowa State season going the
29:57
wrong way right now. Seeing any action, seeing any
29:59
play on that? I'm not sure people know Iowa
30:02
State still playing the football at this point.
30:05
But now, no, there hasn't been much action on this game.
30:08
I thought there'd be a lot of TCU action.
30:10
There really hasn't been. But, you know, TCU is a decent
30:14
team. So we'll see.
30:16
But what a disappointing season for for the Cyclone.
30:19
Yeah. Got off to the undefeated start,
30:21
might come down to the wire just to be bowl eligible at the end
30:25
if they can't find a way to put one in the win column here the
30:27
next couple of weeks. Another one of the Big 12,
30:30
another huge gain. BYU is undefeated, yet they're
30:33
getting north of 10 points in some spots currently.
30:37
Texas Tech, lot of Steve, lot of talent.
30:39
Certainly. This is an odd one because I'm
30:41
sure for your everyday Joe, they see the eight.
30:44
No next to BYU and I'm getting double digits.
30:46
Oh, this is all day long. What are you seeing betting wise
30:48
with BYU and Tech? And not too much movement with
30:52
the line. 1010 and a half, 1010 1/2.
30:57
I think if you're BYU, you're grateful.
31:00
This game has kicked at 11:00 AM local time.
31:05
I think I would like to check if this was a night game.
31:11
I don't know. Every time you say BYU can't do
31:13
it, they do it right. And that was an impossible spot
31:17
for them. And I really was.
31:19
I was stayed off the bye and they're off the holy war and you
31:22
get behind earlier down 10 the whole first half and you come
31:25
back and win by two scores. So I can't count this team out.
31:30
I count Texas Tech as one of the four or five teams that I think
31:34
has a chance to beat Ohio State. And that's what I think it is,
31:37
four or five teams that even have a chance to beat Ohio
31:40
State. Indiana, you put Notre Dame on
31:44
the list. A&M.
31:45
No. No Notre Dame A&M on the list.
31:49
I have the Alabama on the list. Yep.
31:51
I have Notre Dame on the list. Yep.
31:54
And I have Indiana. Yeah, Texas Tech.
31:56
That's it. Yeah, Trenton are kind of the
31:58
same way. Feel, feel the same way.
32:01
Hey, before we go to the NFL because they don't want to run
32:03
out of time. It was, we're all baseball guys.
32:07
I know you needed the Dodgers. You didn't get them, obviously.
32:09
I thought it was a phenomenal World Series.
32:11
I thought, I thought Major League Baseball had a great
32:14
month of October. Personally, I would have liked
32:17
to seen kind of Philip take another foot off third base, but
32:20
that didn't happen. And we know how that turned out.
32:23
How did the World Series turn out?
32:24
How did baseball turn out overall for Circa Mike?
32:28
Well, we lost to the World Series, but you know, we sold
32:31
off probably 80% of that. So which was which was good
32:37
because the four pitch one was thrown in game one, it was
32:41
probably a $700,000 swing and it got to be like a $280,000 swing.
32:46
So we like the position we were in.
32:48
You know, Toronto, Toronto's going home and has two shots at
32:53
it and you could argue about 10 different things that sort of
32:56
went differently for them to win Game 7, even game six in the
32:59
bottom of the ninth. Double play.
33:02
But it didn't. I've thought about this because
33:07
people have asked me, where does this rank for you?
33:09
I think this was the best World Series of my lifetime as just a
33:13
general fan. As a Cubs fan, 2016 is the
33:16
greatest. But just as a general fan, I
33:19
think this tops 91, which I thought was the best World
33:22
Series. Twins, Brave and O1, Yankees,
33:26
Diamondbacks. I would have third now.
33:28
Yeah, and it's funny to say that because Trent and I were both
33:30
the same way with with 91, but I'm with you.
33:34
I thought it was. I know the latest is always the
33:36
greatest and obviously the storylines around O one now, it
33:39
didn't go in New York's way, but yeah, just with everything that
33:43
factored into it. So let's go to the NFL.
33:45
Did you need the Broncos or the Raiders last night?
33:49
It needed the Raiders amazingly. That is amazing.
33:51
Yeah, it's amazing. And I can't tell you how many,
33:56
but for those in Dred, BC, MO and Survivor and there was
33:59
significant, they got very lucky.
34:02
They get very lucky that the Raiders could be this and that
34:04
because the Broncos were awful for four quarters and still came
34:08
away with a win. I want to look at the
34:12
International game. Colts 6 1/2 against the Falcons.
34:16
Now I understand Atlanta, I mean you can't trust them as far as
34:18
you throw them. You couple it with a game across
34:20
the pond and those games seem to be so ugly.
34:22
You just never know a how you bet on this game.
34:26
I guess I would have to grab the points.
34:27
But secondly, what is it like in the book for not a big national
34:31
brand, but two brands like that? Indianapolis against Atlanta
34:35
when it is 630 kick off. What's it like in the circus
34:38
sports book? There's more people that come
34:41
out on Thursday morning for the start of a golf major at 5:00 AM
34:46
than will for this week. People will trickle in in the
34:50
second-half because they're coming for the 10 AM games or
34:53
the noon games, as you guys would say.
34:56
It's just it doesn't do a lot for us.
34:59
I think people are tired of these international games
35:01
because they're bad. They're like also Thursday Night
35:04
Football is bad, They're bad football.
35:07
These international games are bad games.
35:10
They're trying to do too much hockey.
35:12
All the stadiums now, the Stadium Series is going to be a
35:15
Jerry World. Enough already.
35:17
Take one thing and they take it too far.
35:19
Have a New Year's Eve game and the NHL at a cold weather place
35:23
outdoors and that's it. One game a year they ruin
35:25
everything by doing too much of it.
35:27
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.
35:29
It's overkill. I want to go to Monday night
35:31
because I'm fascinated by this game.
35:33
I've been saying it all year long.
35:35
Go back to August. I have no idea about this Green
35:37
Bay team. I don't think they're good.
35:39
Then I watch them beat the Lions and think, wow, was Ivor wrong?
35:42
But I think I ultimately I'm going to be right.
35:44
The Eagles were active at the trade deadline.
35:47
Where are you on Philadelphia? I'm surprised that there's as
35:50
much Green Bay love out there as there is.
35:52
I think Trent probably on the Packers, at least he was earlier
35:55
in the week. The Eagles, I thought got better
35:57
at the trade deadline. Mike, what are you guys seeing
36:00
for Monday Night Football? I know it's a few days away yet.
36:03
The line isn't moving. I I didn't think the market
36:06
could tolerate 2 1/2 all week, but it has because there's a lot
36:10
of people think the Eagles should be favored in this game.
36:13
There is playoff revenge for the Packers, and so they should be
36:19
up for this game on a Monday night.
36:20
The performance is inexcusable on Sunday against Caroline, and
36:23
I know Caroline is not awful. If you can't be that flat,
36:26
that's a game where you know your team might be flat off a
36:29
Sunday night where you beat Aaron Rodgers.
36:31
How can you let your team be flat?
36:33
I don't get it. With the Packers.
36:36
They look at they look at times like the best team in the league
36:39
and they look at times like the worst team in the division.
36:41
To your point, I didn't touch the game.
36:43
If it got to three I would take the Eagle, but that's the only
36:47
way I would touch it. Survivor, we are dwindling down.
36:51
Last week I told you I'm being knocked out.
36:53
It was just hard to even look at the NFL slate for me.
36:55
And then knowing I also would have been on the Rams last week.
36:58
But last, here we are because the stupid Cincinnati Bengals
37:00
against The Jets last night, I'm sure there was a big percentage
37:04
and you can't disclose that at this time.
37:06
But what else do you anticipate coming up this weekend with
37:08
Survivor? The way it's going to look as we
37:11
start to now in November, really start to look forward to
37:13
Thanksgiving. I think there's a couple
37:15
candidates that people have to choose from depending on
37:18
availability. I think the Bears, our team may
37:20
have to look at. I think, I think Buffalo, even
37:24
though it's division and on the road, you have to look at I
37:27
think Carolina, even though it's division, when are you going to
37:29
use them again? And I think Seattle, even though
37:32
it's division, if I had all five of those four in Denver, I would
37:37
have taken Denver last night if it was grandissimo.
37:40
And the reason is because then I can and I would assume that all
37:44
four that had them took them. I'm just giving you a scenario
37:46
here. I would then have seven other
37:49
people picking on Sunday. Maybe there's two or three other
37:52
teams chosen, maybe 4. I doubt that.
37:55
Then you can just make a money line parlay of what your
37:58
opponents choose. And if it loses you, you've
38:01
dwindled the field by that much. I mean, it's significant now, 11
38:03
people for, you know, $6.9 million.
38:07
So that was the way I would do it from a game theory
38:10
standpoint, just to be in first. If you if you ask all the games,
38:14
I'd probably like Seattle the best.
38:15
I think the Cardinals are getting a little overvalued off
38:18
the win on Monday night in Dallas.
38:22
I think the Seattle team got better too, and I think they're
38:26
very, very good. Now they're only two and two at
38:27
home, but they had tough luck loss to Tampa Bay.
38:30
I think I, I think Seattle is amongst the two or three best
38:35
teams in the NFC. Real quick on hockey looks like
38:38
your ducks are are I've arrived and then we were both right on
38:43
this guy because I think he's I think the torch is being passed
38:46
went to Crosby then went to McDavid.
38:49
I think Celebrini's about to take over.
38:50
I think this guy is this good. Mike I, I believe he's the next
38:53
great Canadian hockey player. Well, that could be.
38:57
I mean, he jumps off the screen at you.
38:58
Don't you have to love how the Ducks and the Sharks play?
39:01
I do the score. They're pedaled to the metal
39:03
from the open. They're they're so entertaining
39:06
every single night. I want to say one thing to you
39:08
and let's see if this happens in February, OK?
39:11
There's nobody with two. If you just were watching the
39:15
game of hockey and you knew none of the other politics, that
39:18
could say that Logan Thompson shouldn't be the starter for
39:21
team candidates. Crazy.
39:23
Did you see what? Everybody, every but every every
39:26
day, I both tried to steal the. That's got to make your what's
39:30
your You cannot be serious, Yes. He did too, and the referee had
39:35
to grab it. Yes, he did.
39:37
The referee, I watched it in lifetime.
39:38
I thought, why is he skating so hard?
39:40
I know there's going to be a break for the 900 goal, but why
39:43
is Bennington sprinting to the bench?
39:45
Did you? Are you wearing this Sprint?
39:47
Ovechkin scored his 900th. The goalie who's a real a hole,
39:51
Jordan Bennington from the Blues, reached into the net,
39:53
picked up the puck while everybody's celebrating, stuck
39:56
it down his pants. He tried to steal the puck.
40:00
Yeah, it got caught on T The cameras caught him.
40:03
Mike is crazy. And the referee stated the
40:06
linesman stated over to him and wouldn't let him get to the
40:08
bench. It said give us the puck.
40:11
There's nobody that's watching the game.
40:12
They could say that that Bennington should start over
40:15
over Thompson now. Thompson was hurt for the Four
40:17
Nations. Yep.
40:19
Yet everybody that's in the know of team candidate tells me
40:22
there's zero chance and it's absolutely Bennington will be
40:24
their starting goaltender in Italy and I cannot believe it.
40:27
But you have the Borin Cassidy or the two assistants, they
40:31
can't stand Thompson. And from what we hear also that
40:34
the Golden Knights teammates didn't like him either.
40:36
And that's saying a lot when the teammates didn't complain about
40:38
Leonard. Right, Yeah, who had his own set
40:41
of. Issues, Mike, we'll talk more
40:42
about the Iowa app with you next week.
40:44
Yeah, the music's playing, buddy.
40:45
Thank you, Mike Palm. Appreciate it.
40:47
Good luck, Clock. Thank you, Mike.
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