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Training Camp-Cast 8/13: Joint Practice Takeaways, Offense Battles Inconsistency, Defense Brings an Edge · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Training Camp Cast.
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  Speaker 2: The Patriots Training Camp Cast is your source for all
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  Speaker 2: the news from Patriots training Camp.
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  Speaker 1: I do still watch the news. Practice is over, but
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  Speaker 1: the writers of Patriots dot.
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  Speaker 3: Com have you covered? What did I miss yesterday?
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  Speaker 4: Now here to review today's practice the writers of Patriots
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  Speaker 4: dot Com. All right, welcome into another edition of the
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  Speaker 4: Patriots Training Camp Cast. This, of course the fourteenth practice, guys,
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  Speaker 4: and it was a joint practice with the Philadelphia Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Guys.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna start with just the scene setter. A positive
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  Speaker 4: scene setter, great crowd, beautiful day, a lot of good
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  Speaker 4: football being played, a lot of football.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's after keep going.
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  Speaker 4: But let's you know, let's let's get down to the
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  Speaker 4: brass tacks of it all. Big picture for me, defense
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  Speaker 4: pretty good today. Patriots offense had their struggles.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll start with the defense because I know
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  Speaker 3: Ev was more focused on on the other side. I
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  Speaker 3: did think the front seven, in particular, I thought did
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  Speaker 3: a good job sort of establishing the line of scrimmage
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  Speaker 3: owning the line of scrimmage. There were some passes completed
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  Speaker 3: for Philadelphia, but it seemed any time that they looked
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  Speaker 3: like they were going to get into a rhythm. They
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  Speaker 3: got some pressure on Jalen Hurts, So I did think
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  Speaker 3: that that front was was pretty stout throughout the day.
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  Speaker 3: The run stop, I thought Godshaw was mid season form.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think that they had much room to run.
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  Speaker 3: So the front seven, I thought defensive was pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: The second area I don't think was really good. But
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  Speaker 3: you know, we'll get to some bookkeeping stuff. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of guys missing back there, so you know, maybe to
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  Speaker 3: be understand, you know, to be expected.
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  Speaker 4: How about that offense, Evan Uh, yeah, well he said
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  Speaker 4: while talking, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They played out there, no here.
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  Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is to me is that
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  Speaker 2: coming into this practice, you knew that there were some
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  Speaker 2: clear matchups that favored the Eagles defense over the Patriots offense,
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  Speaker 2: mainly looking at their defensive front against the Patriots offensive
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  Speaker 2: line that we know is a work in progress, and
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles got some dudes up there. I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: got to all practice about it. Georgie Davis, Jalen Carter,
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  Speaker 2: Nolan Smith, Bryce Huff coming over from the Jets. They
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  Speaker 2: have one of the best defensive fronts in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: and that's exactly how it played out in practice, and
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  Speaker 2: then I felt like at times there were some clean
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  Speaker 2: pockets for Jacob ber said, and he wasn't exactly sharp
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  Speaker 2: out there with his ball placement in accuracy. So it
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  Speaker 2: was overall the Eagles definitely controlled the day when the
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  Speaker 2: Patriots were on offense on the other field. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't think it's alarmist necessarily, because what did you expect, Like,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't come into this practice thinking that the Patriots
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  Speaker 2: offense was going to go out there and light it up.
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  Speaker 1: So I wish it was a little bit cleaner.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that Paul will get to this a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more than I can, But penalties situational stuff more
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  Speaker 2: than carryover from what we saw yesterday. That's my biggest gripe.
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  Speaker 2: It's one thing to not exactly be able to block
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  Speaker 2: everybody up front when you're still figuring things out on
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line. It's another thing to go offside, you know,
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  Speaker 2: fall start here, fall start there, bad snaps like that
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  Speaker 2: type of stuff has to be cleaned up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that to me would be the biggest disappointment because
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  Speaker 3: I think what Evan said is right. I mean, you're
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  Speaker 3: sort of building an offense from the ground up and
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  Speaker 3: you're playing against a team that from a talent perspective
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  Speaker 3: is super Bowl caliber. Now they have some internal problems
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  Speaker 3: that caused them to lose whatever it was six of
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  Speaker 3: the last seven last year. So the Eagles are fighting
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  Speaker 3: through some stuff. But it's not a talent issue. So
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  Speaker 3: you expected there to be some fits and starts offensively,
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  Speaker 3: but there's no reason to it. I think that we
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  Speaker 3: counted nine offensive penalties. At least six of those were
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  Speaker 3: pre snap ball on the ground, on fumbled snaps, ball
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  Speaker 3: on the ground, you know, on a fake jet sweep.
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  Speaker 3: You know that Brissette has to dive on the ball.
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  Speaker 3: So there was just a lot of things that Austin
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  Speaker 3: Hooper described early in camp as not requiring any talent
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  Speaker 3: that right now this team is having a hard time executing.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned Austin Hooper probably had to pick one guy
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  Speaker 4: that kind of stood out and certainly was up and down,
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  Speaker 4: you know, got open middle of field, downfield, Jacoby missed him.
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  Speaker 4: I just want to provide a little context though, for
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  Speaker 4: Drake May and his final series of a two minute drill,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, everybody's wondering, Drake May, where's his reps?
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I think he didn't know. I had
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  Speaker 4: an okay practice earlier, but Evan, we got into that
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  Speaker 4: final period and there was a lot of pressure on him.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard to judge him off of what he's dealing
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  Speaker 4: with out there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. He started this practice nine for nine. Now, some
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  Speaker 2: of that was seven on seven, but he made a
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  Speaker 2: really good throw and seven on seven to Jayvon Baker
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  Speaker 2: down the right sideline on a go route. It was
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  Speaker 2: a nice play, and then he carried that over for
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  Speaker 2: the first team period was things were okay and it
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  Speaker 2: really went off the rails from there, And we don't
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  Speaker 2: have the luxury of going back and watching practice film
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  Speaker 2: and all that stuff, so it's always this like difficult
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  Speaker 2: analysis of is it the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Is it the line? Is it the receivers? Like who's
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  Speaker 1: that fault?
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  Speaker 2: For the fact that every single hurry up, it feels
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  Speaker 2: like with Drake may is kind of a struggle. I
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  Speaker 2: don't feel like he's been smooth through any of them,
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  Speaker 2: even against his own teammates in practice, so some of
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  Speaker 2: that has to fall on the QB. He said after
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  Speaker 2: practice that he felt like he could have gotten the
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  Speaker 2: ball out a little bit quicker and avoided those sacks.
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  Speaker 2: You know, can't take a sack in a two minute
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  Speaker 2: is what he said exactly. So he's been hard on
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  Speaker 2: himself about it. But to your point, he had four
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  Speaker 2: straight plays in the hurry up where they went four
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  Speaker 2: and out. Three of them were sacks, and from our
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  Speaker 2: vantage point, you guys can have a different opinion if
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  Speaker 2: you do. It didn't feel like they had much of
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  Speaker 2: a chance on the place. Like I'm not talking about
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  Speaker 2: like he's sitting back there for three and a half
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  Speaker 2: four seconds holding the ball, it's hit the top of
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  Speaker 2: the drop and if the ball hadn't been out immediately.
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  Speaker 1: There was pressure in his face.
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  Speaker 2: And the third one or the fourth one, I should say
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  Speaker 2: that was the one throw he got off Kishon booty
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  Speaker 2: was blanketed and.
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  Speaker 1: There was really no place to go with the football.
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  Speaker 1: So it was rough.
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  Speaker 2: If you look at the stat sheet, it's gonna say
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  Speaker 2: zero for four with a four and out. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: not trying to make excuses for him, but the whole
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  Speaker 2: operation was rough, all eleven guys. And I should mention
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  Speaker 2: that he's still working with the twos, so he's working
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  Speaker 2: with the backup offensive line and then a mix of
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  Speaker 2: receivers as well. But mostly just the backup offensive line
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  Speaker 2: and that has problematic for him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, just to kind of focus on the defense a
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  Speaker 4: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: To Paul, I thought they were better.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think, like, you know, look, we saw
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  Speaker 4: what made Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown and DeVante Smith
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  Speaker 4: so difficult. Of course, the team the individual drills, you
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  Speaker 4: don't really get into those, but you know, you see
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  Speaker 4: the connection that they had. There were multiple plays where
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  Speaker 4: you felt like the Patriots were sending blitzes at them.
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts recognized it is able to you know, use
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  Speaker 4: his mobility, get out and you know, throw a dime
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  Speaker 4: to AJ Brown. Happened a couple of times. But it
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  Speaker 4: felt like once the Patriots kind of moved down into
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  Speaker 4: the low red zone you mentioned, the run defense kind
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  Speaker 4: of picked up and it just seemed like their intensity
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  Speaker 4: picked up a little bit and.
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  Speaker 3: They likes the physicality up front on the defensive side,
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  Speaker 3: you know, on the left hand field. Today, I thought
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  Speaker 3: Godshaw looked like he was his normal run stuffing, run
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  Speaker 3: stuff ing sseelf. So that kind of stuff is encouraging,
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, because they're gonna have to replace
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  Speaker 3: Christian Barmore. You know, you have Matthew Judon as a
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  Speaker 3: pass rusher who knows, you know, how that whole scenario
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  Speaker 3: is going to unfold. So I thought that was encouraging
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  Speaker 3: that they were able to make life a little bit
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  Speaker 3: difficult on the Eagle at times. And I do think
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  Speaker 3: the physicality stood out. Your boy, Julia, I've almost called
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  Speaker 3: him Julius Jabrill Peppers, you know again, I think was
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  Speaker 3: a tone setter in that regard. Lane Johnson credited him
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  Speaker 3: with that for the Eagles. So it wasn't like this
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  Speaker 3: whole just wipeout of a day. I thought they got
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  Speaker 3: a lot of competitive work in but offensively. Evan's right,
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  Speaker 3: they got a long way to go.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, same kind of issues, just some housekeeping stuff. At first,
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  Speaker 4: we saw Marcus Jones and Jonathan Jones come out in pads.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't see them participate at all, so maybe that
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  Speaker 4: means they're ramping back up. We still think Jonathan Jones
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  Speaker 4: probably could go if it was a regular season, but
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  Speaker 4: otherwise no real returns of note. Hunter Henry did mispractice
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  Speaker 4: as expected, so gave Austin Hooper a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: a chance to do what he did today exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he was the best weapon on offense. And
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  Speaker 3: I know that probably sounds like we're damning with faint praise,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, Douglas.
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  Speaker 2: Either him or Pop who did get for you a
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  Speaker 2: couple of times in Jacoby Brissett's two minute drill.
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  Speaker 1: But Hooper, some of it was good, some of it
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  Speaker 1: was bad.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he had to drop up and then back
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  Speaker 2: shoulder fade or seem I should say in the end
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  Speaker 2: zone that I thought he caught and then all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden the Eagles were celebrating and they had the ball.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, one of those like tip drill situations.
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  Speaker 2: But he was open. You know, he was getting open
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  Speaker 2: and opened down the field as well. So whether it's
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  Speaker 2: Hooper Henry when he's been healthy, I feel like Hunter
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  Speaker 2: Henry's had opportunities as well. It does seem like this
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  Speaker 2: offense in this system gets the tight end open quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit. You know, David and Jok who had huge
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  Speaker 2: years in this offense in Cleveland, So those opportunities are
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  Speaker 2: going to be there. It's it's really the stuff up
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  Speaker 2: front and then obviously the stuff on the outside that
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  Speaker 2: they're still searching for.
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  Speaker 3: Best player in the field to me though, was was
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  Speaker 3: aj Brown yeah, I thought he was a going concern
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  Speaker 3: any anytime they didn't get pressure on Hurts, it seemed
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  Speaker 3: like it was either either Brown or Smith making I
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  Speaker 3: thought pretty routine catches.
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  Speaker 4: Yea, A trust is clear between Jalen Hurts and A. J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think this is going to do it for
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  Speaker 4: the Patriots training camp cast. This is the last official
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  Speaker 4: day of open practices. We're not sure that we'll be
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  Speaker 4: other practices, not sure if we're going to get to
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  Speaker 4: watch them all report on them. So for all intents
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  Speaker 4: and purposes, this might be it for the last time
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  Speaker 4: we really see the Patriots play. Behind the scenes. Of course,
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  Speaker 4: big game on Thursday night, we'll be curious to see,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Drake May's reps as you get some chance
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  Speaker 4: with the ones on the offensive line. Give them a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more time plenty to digest here over the
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  Speaker 4: last couple weeks as the Patriots get ready to close
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  Speaker 4: things out against the Eagles and then next weekend against
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  Speaker 4: the Commanders.
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