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Die unendliche Geschichte: The Night House, M3GAN & Blair Witch · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  okay one two
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  three I can't hear you anymore oh can how about now no oh that's my fault hang
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  on hello hello hello hello okay okay just it's my fault okay if you poop
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  again we should be good three two
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  one I booped cuz I saw you do the Motions even though I couldn't hear you
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  and then realized I made a mistake I should have said something anyway just
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  because because that I don't know what I thought was going to happen but you what
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  would have happened is that you would have had to have kept Faking It the
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  entire show yeah halfway through I've got to be honest don't know what you're
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  saying welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and Dan multiple
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  nerdgasm your guide to All Things
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  nerdy Commodore 64 I can see what he's highlighting roll I'm just going to talk
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  about these things yeah in order the rust
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  shooting uh I'm watching Finding Nemo oh yeah with my daughter this morning um
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  that movie starts with some random fish having his whole family massacred it's
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  it's brutal it's the opening of the film
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  I've forgotten just how just how violent
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  some of these Disney movies start right because when you were before you had a
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  child you didn't care or notice no any fish could have any member of his family
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  murdered and I just wouldn't care just don't care about fish now the other one
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  I uh I always think of is up yeah beginning of up where he his wife dies
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  is just same thing I mean there's a Disney curse where are the moms no no
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  Disney girl has a mom Ariel's mom gone Belle's mom gone poon's mom gone
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  Jasmine's mom gone where are these moms huh where is jasine Disney hates women
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  yeah right as well as Disney likes young women just doesn't like old women wait
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  wait is that a thing no no no I'm I'm just all right just and it based on what
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  you've told me yeah sure sure sure sure yeah once they get to a certain age ride
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  them out of the story but we always talk about we always talk like DiCaprio does
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  you're going to draw her yeah um we always talk about how they
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  don't make movies as scary as they did when we were kids but maybe they do yeah
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  we just don't notice anymore oh it's different it's a little different but
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  yeah well there were murdered moms in Disney when we were kids and there
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  Disney's still murdering everyone but those aren't the ones we talk about when
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  we talk about the movies that were more no we talk about Dark Crystal and how
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  just [ __ ] nightmarish it is yeah exactly yeah so the one that I always
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  think about is never- Ending Story right which I would actually probably put if I
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  had to name my top five nostalgic great
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  i' name the moon child it probably be
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  Star Wars Raiders Goonies uh Back to the Future and Never
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  Ending Story if I had to do five six to 10 would be a close you know a close
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  second lot of five prob swap go in Labyrinth just cuz Labyrinth was very
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  sure yeah on rotation that's probably number six for me yeah but still all
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  good all good but something I learned recently about never- Ending Story cuz
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  it was always the one that I held up as like two scary for kids like we could
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  deal with it you know what I mean we could deal with a horse dying of sadness
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  and like do you remember how that movie ended he was trying to save Fantasia
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  from the nothing and in the end the nothing wins like Fantasia does get
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  destroyed but then in the end there's like one grain of sand and she says if
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  there's one grain of sand and one person remembers it we can rebuild like he
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  doesn't save it there's just hope that they can one day maybe rebuild like
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  that's Bleak that is Bleak [ __ ] for kids right oh but there were sequels stand so
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  obviously it worked out all right yeah it wasn't a Never Ending Story there
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  were there were two more and then it ended no it ended when those bullies got
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  knocked in the trash yeah that's right um by an actual falor in real life was
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  that was that really happening at what point did that yeah but anyway I learn
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  you just you just don't know yeah don't ask decide for yourself Luke's not here
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  this week so talk about movies like this or we want he's fine just putting that
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  thought we mentioned that well is he out of all of us que land oh that's true I
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  think people probably worry about him more than they worry about us when we
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  say someone's not yeah if he's not here yeah true he's always hurting himself I
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  uh learned something about Never Ending Story this week that blew my [ __ ]
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  mind right did you know this the the never- Ending Story that
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  you saw right and that I saw and that was the only version we had available to
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  us yeah remake of a German movie that came out a few years earlier I didn't
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  that and by remake I mean it used the same shots but was a completely new
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  construction of an existing movie Never Ending Story is a German film right
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  based on a German book and the Germans when they were getting funding for it
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  thought it's probably in our best interest to get funding outside of
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  Germany as well and they got some British and maybe American Funding too
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  so they thought okay let's shoot this so that we can dub it into both English and
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  German right right they then proceeded to make a film a German film in German
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  in the language of Germany right yeah yeah yeah and uh you with me what is
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  that language called I can never remember anyway and then uh released it it was a
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  big hit and then years later like a couple of years later sold the rushes
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  and the rights to an American Studio who then took those rushes and made their
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  own movie out of it did their own Musical score made their own pop song to
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  be the opening of it put it in the order they wanted and released it as a
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  completely unique movie so when you watch the German version it's
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  different it's different but the actors and scenes are the same is that what
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  you're saying yeah yeah so even Bas when you think about it Bastian speaks
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  English he speaks English but barely any of the other characters are actually
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  speaking English if you look closely that's fascinating I didn't know that no
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  neither did die and apparently CU you know we Turtle isn't speaking English
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  that's right exactly that snail that you can ride yeah so if you watch behind the
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  scenes like that guy who rides the snail is speaking German onet his dialogue is
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  being recorded in German the little kid Bastion he's not he's an American actor
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  cuz they were like when this eventually comes out in America they're going to
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  they're going to need this guy to be speaking that's really interesting okay
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  and evently and the reason I bring this up is because apparently even though we
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  consider never any story to be a very dark film the German version is Bleak as
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  [ __ ] it's a laugh right no apparently because you know how like our version
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  has like quite uh like adventurous uplifting music apparently the German n
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  [ __ ] that they've just got this like
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  drone uhhuh uhhuh yeah right oh now I got to find it and learn to speak German
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  I can just watch it yeah you you you'd roughly know what they're saying exactly
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  yeah the nothing oh I wish I knew what that was in German that I could just
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  parrot that back to you but I've got no idea what nothing is in German the N
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  thing day
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  nine uh great movie great movie is it a great movie you know what I I don't know
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  I think it is no I think it is speaking of great movies I watched some great
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  movies this week one on your list was on my list too Matt
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  oh is that we watched the same movie sort of is that what you're saying one
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  of them one of one of these three movies you've written down I also watched this
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  week and when I say Dan watches some horror movies one of these movies is one
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  of the ones I mentioned which one is it I need to know all right let me let me
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  I'm like is the more the most recent one is it the most recent one no it isn't
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  it's the second to most recent one I watched the nighthouse this week did
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  [ __ ] off that's the most obscure one I know right yes that's very unusual and I
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  was going to tell you all about it cuz it's so [ __ ] good listeners this is
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  not a bit this is a a fairly obscure horror movie that I saw or Jenna found
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  on Hulu no particular reason this is not secret place where I watch movies it's
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  not a new film or anything all right no I was just looking for good horror
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  movies this one looked good and it was good and this is one of the oh we could
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  start here we could start by talking about this movie this is one of the few
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  horror movies that I've watched recently that didn't [ __ ] itself at the end like
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  didn't fall apart like right to the end I was still like this is awesome yeah I
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  saw some reviews people on on the internet I looked up afterwards cuz and
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  I people either didn't get it or or were complaining about certain things that
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  I'm like oh I mean you have to be bit nitpicky there to worry about that but
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  yeah I felt like it was strong all the way through and I said to Jenna I really
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  hope this is going somewhere because it's
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  very uh tense and ambient and it's not explaining itself which I like and
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  unless we get to the end and it still hasn't done yeah doesn't have to explain
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  everything but I still have to feel like oh I get it okay yeah and that's exactly
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  what it did it went by the way here's why you were scared here's why you
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  should still be scared after the movie is finished and still wondering about
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  stuff but here just enough that you feel you haven't wasted your time me and it
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  didn't explain things that it didn't really need to like certain things he
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  was doing like you can you can almost come up with your own explanation
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  for certain things like I don't want to spoil anything for the listeners
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  but well we've not even told them anything remotely about this plot so
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  okay so the M this point it's called The Nigh house and it's about a woman whose
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  husband commits suicide out of the blue and she doesn't know why and she
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  starts to suspect something strange was going on because she
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  finds uh a photos of women she doesn't know who they are on his phone and they
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  all look a bit like her mhm and then then she finds plans for the house he
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  helped build the house and then she finds amongst his things plans for a
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  reverse layout version of their house and she's like the [ __ ] is that about
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  yeah and so he was an architect they lived in a house he designed and then
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  somewhere there's a duplicate of their house in Reverse why and she starts
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  having dreams that he's not dead well yeah it's a little weird
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  it's hard to explain it's it's very um [ __ ] good it is good it's very
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  surreal I guess it's actually quite hard to describe yeah but not in a way that
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  like don't write this off as some Art House thing no it's a very good it's
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  like how you would imagine a ghost story actually would pan out where you kind of
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  like sure everything's just like a little bit it's it's not like blatant
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  everything's just a bit off for quite a long time and you go it is weird but
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  it's not like in the end the The Twist is ghosts did it like there's still a
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  very human element to the story but it is still a supernatural horror right and
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  I like it even I mean not to I don't want to it's not a spoiler I don't think
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  but even I was thinking about it later and I was like you know what it could
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  all have just been nothing oh yeah it does leave that there technically yeah
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  as an option yeah he might have just been insane right and then all the other
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  stuff she was just traumatized and it didn't actually even happen oh actually
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  no um I've just realized that can't be quite true I think cuz there is does
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  interact with other people who confirm so there is some stuff well you see you
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  say that but actually you could write that cuz nothing happened to that person
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  she interacts with oh good point good point so you could reasonably that's the
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  only one yeah you're right that's the only one yeah um interesting sorry
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  listeners we're being very vague but you should watch this film if you're like
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  it's very creepy Thriller horror but you're right it is it is kind of like
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  that um we would talk about Lovecraft just about every week but it is kind of
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  like a Lovecraft story where they always start with um I'm insane and I'm going
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  to kill myself after I write this but just listen to my crazy tale first like
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  yeah yeah good atmosphere it's um from the director of I've forgotten what the
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  other thing was when I looked it up I was like oh that guy oh okay I don't
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  even know if I looked into this so let me have a look now David
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  Brookner the ritual yes that's a [ __ ] amazing movie
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  ritual is excellent um he did the hell ra very underrated which uh I not seen
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  no but I was like oh I should watch it if he did it cuz his stuff's good and
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  then some of these um the signal and those VHS horror movies you did those
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  too so yeah yeah a few good things oh
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  the signal yeah okay yes oh yes I remember that beyond the gates I think
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  seen this it's like a lowbudget horror movie which one
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  beyond the gates I think I might have seen that at some point I don't think I
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  know but anyway yeah the night house highly recommended really good
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  performances too like the actress is great yeah and in fact I was like I
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  think I've seen her in other things and I looked back through and what I thought
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  versus Godzilla she was in yeah and she's also she's well she's also in the
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  prestige she's the wife that says you don't love me today some days you do
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  love me and I was like [ __ ] off yeah right yeah okay yeah no she's great yeah
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  she's excellent and I'm trying to think is anybody else in this that I knew I
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  don't think so with barely any yeah small cast yeah small cast and small
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  locations too I just thinking like this could have been a yeah the budget's
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  quite tidy on this I bet was like oh yeah it's just it's just good like yeah
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  yeah correct oh cool so you didn't watch any of these other ones I've seen one
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  other one I haven't seen I know which one it's going to be one yeah you've not seen M3
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  no I haven't seen m3an and I'm probably not going to watch
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  it to be honest the reason we watched m3an or Megan or Megan if you're
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  American Megan they would call it the reason we watched that is because one
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  day lra got the remote for the Apple TV and just started clicking things and she
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  was scrolling through movies got to Megan I don't think she chose it on
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  purpose but she was just clicking on things scroll down click the like went
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  down scrolled down highlighted the buy button and I like to buy the movie and
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  and I said oh honey know and I stood up to get it and you know that's a mistake
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  because she just start of pushing the button whatever I was going to do has to
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  happen really quickly so she was like bye bye bye bye bye bye bye and then it
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  came up and I was like are you sure you want to buy this and I was like no [ __ ] off
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  no um so she didn't buy it but it did put the movie on my
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  radar so it's a horror is movie I would have thought this might have been on
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  your radar to begin with yeah I didn't know what it was to
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  be honest until that happened I I I didn't realize that that was like a
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  robot okay it's an Android either yeah I'll be honest I think I thought this
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  was a James
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  Juan he wrote the script yeah it is
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  James Juan a verse yeah yeah so this
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  movie is about a uh I guess she's a programmer of sorts she she builds
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  robots a robotic engineer who makes toys for kids she's got this side project
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  that's like a a robot it's like a you know an Android I guess to like be
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  friends with kids and uh and then she
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  because her her sister and her brother-in-law are killed in an accident
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  and she's the legal becomes the legal guardian of her niece and she's a she's
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  a nerd robotic engineer doesn't know how to look after kids or anything like that
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  it's a whole situ situation so she figures well I'll just get this robot
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  that I made to look after her yeah she programmed the robot right yeah but it's
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  one of it's it's one of those movies where the robot is just it's [ __ ]
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  Skynet from the GetGo sure like the robot smarter than anybody else in this
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  movie just she just magically managed to do that which is whatever at least yeah
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  yeah they said that's how aced it and M
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  yeah exactly yeah oh this movie's robots a genius got it no worries yeah I'll try
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  not to think about it too much but there were a few things where they'd say oh
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  it's because of this and I was like [ __ ] off all right
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  whatever yeah that's ridiculous fine fine yeah so anyway the the the robot
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  prioritizes the little girl over a lot of other stuff which becomes a problem
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  and and yeah sure uh it's pretty good
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  it's a okay PG-13 for sure horror movie yeah like
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  I don't think there's any Gore or anything in it of any does the robot
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  start to kill is that what happens yes oh you know what there is Gore in it and
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  it's actually quite interesting I don't want to spoil it because it's just an
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  interesting choice they they don't show one thing but they do show something
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  else that I was like [ __ ] that's an interesting decision to not show this
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  fly I yeah I don't know how to say it without spoiling it but like is it a
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  spoiler I mean does anyone care if I spoil this movie I suppose not all right
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  so at one point the the the the the robot kills a dog right but you don't
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  see any of that you just kind of hear it off screen and another Scene It chases
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  this kid through the woods and he runs out of the road gets hit by a [ __ ]
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  car you see that in all its gory detail Jesus and I was like sorry so we're not
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  allowed to see the dog get killed but we can watch this kid be run over by a car that's
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  interesting um when I made my um
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  notorious [ __ ] TV comedy in Singapore um where the sensors made us remove the
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  punch line for pretty much all the jokes um there was one scene where a dog gets
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  hit by a car and they made us remove it and they made us they made us cut away I
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  wonder if for some reason it was some silly thing like that where they were
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  like we can't see the we didn't want to show the or or the way they shot the dog
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  was particularly bad or something or the way we shot it was that we had a dog we
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  had the camera locked off we had the dog sitting in the middle of the road and we
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  we paused we removed the then we put a watermelon where the dog
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  was and then had a car come and actually run over the watermelon so when you cut
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  it together it just looks like the dog just exploded into a red [ __ ] ppy
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  mess it was awesome it would have been really good and really funny too but uh
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  yeah right yeah so it's just an interesting like I guess technically you
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  don't see the kid get hit but you definitely see the aftermath I'm trying
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  to think back my my memory my brain might have done some of the work there
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  for them it's just definitely more graphic in that case than it is the the
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  dog which right right yeah and in the middle of a what otherwi PG movie yeah
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  right yeah I think that is the most graphic thing in the movie is just that
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  so but uh it's fairly you know predictable and you know we picked what
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  was going to happen at the end when something got set up in the at the
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  beginning we were like oh yeah okay that's going to come up again and it did
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  I see it you're W in a movie script yeah and but you know it was enjoyable yeah
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  fair enough it's all it needs to do really I think that's it probably aimed
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  to do it's for just have you enjoy it the next movie I'm not sure I'd say was
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  enjoyable as such it was very good yeah it's excellent but [ __ ] me yeah you
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  wouldn't go oh yeah I love this it's you want you want to watch a funny movie
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  Midsummer [ __ ] hell yeah yeah a movie that does only at the end of the movie
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  you go so what where are we now with this yeah yeah what is what's she going
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  how do I feel about it and yeah how did I feel about any of this really other
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  than gross yeah so listens if you haven't seen Midsummer I don't know
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  whether you should watch it it depends mids M sorry mid somar it's about
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  actually sort of similar setup it's about a girl who's a little different
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  her sister murder suicides herself and her parents and she's distraught so her
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  boyfriend who was gon to dump her takes her on a trip to Sweden instead yeah
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  yeah because it doesn't it's relevant but it doesn't really come up no like as
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  such again no and it would have been the same amount of horror if that hadn't
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  been a thing yeah it's almost unnecessary that that happened yeah like
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  it's it's it's almost like they went should we put in just one more horrific
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  thing yeah or like he just wrote it like like chronologically from the beginning
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  and then got lost in what happened after that and then forgot oh wait a minute
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  yeah that's right this horrible thing happened to her at the beginning that I've
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  to be you the movie it is somewhat relevant but anyway yes she goes to
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  Sweden to this town that it's not a town like a village that's apparently famous
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  but like I'm baffled by how it can be famous for what goes on there in this
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  movie like people know do people know about this or not we're completely cool
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  with it yeah yeah and it's basically like they're Vikings and they do Viking
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  things like you know like in yeah Norman they throw themselves off a cliff when
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  they get too old and stuff like that and it's yeah it gets worse from there
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  although Norman spoilers they don't well that's yeah it's the opening scene of
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  the first season so not really a spoiler I think it's supposed to be a surprise
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  in mid somar when that happens but as soon as they said I think at one point
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  they depict all the various stages of life and then it says he says oh you
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  know from this age to this age this age to this age and then from this age to 70
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  you you do this and someone says oh what do you do when you get to 70 and he goes
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  and I said oh yeah they throw you off a cliff and then cut to 10 minutes later
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  in the movie yeah yeah quite uh quite
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  viscerally brutal I did not expect yeah watermelons if you've got a
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  weak stomach don't watch it anyway it's and like I said things go downhill from
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  there and it's quite subtle in Parts like like that scene not subtle right
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  very violent and and and brutal other things more subtle like it shows you
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  that artwork she says oh what's this and they say it's a love story and it just
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  pans along it and you can kind of just take it in and you can see what's
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  happening in there is it's some the girl's performing some kind of love
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  spell and she puts pubes and her some of her blood in the drink and like and then
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  you just see that go past and you go that's a bit weird and then later on the
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  girl's boyfriend finds a pube in his food and they don't comment on it like
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  that it's just you go oh okay and and then his drinks a different color to the
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  others stuff like that it's like okay now this is also by the same guys that
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  made other stuff too if hereditary which I didn't like as much AR which I didn't
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  like as much as everyone I like quite a lot yeah I think uh maybe I just watched
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  it on a bad day but I just I just never quite that also
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  right the there's a very famous scene in hereditary which again yes both of these
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  movies are quite old so I'm not too worried about spoilers but there's a
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  scene where the sister's you see the sister's head on the side of the road
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  yeah right it's or you see it sticking the head out the window and then it gets
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  yes cut off but then they have just a graphic shot of it on the side of thead
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  lat with all the bugs on it and everything like that for no good
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  reason yeah true you didn't need to see that it wasn't like what happened to her
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  head we you knew what happened yeah yeah but where's the head I see body with no
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  head but where's the head yeah so again it just so there's that but then also a
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  bunch of other subtle stuff in that movie so oh interesting but that was one
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  of the movies though that I thought the ending let me down a bit I just by the
• 24:45
  time it ended I was like uh I don't know there was a cult in the shed or
• 24:51
  something yeah it just no I can't remember I remember I like I it got it I
• 24:56
  went along with it and yeah I think maybe I just something early on pissed
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  me off and then I didn't go along with it but you you got to go along with it
• 25:04
  or you you know that's every movie but I watched another horror movie this week
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  that I'd seen only once when it first came out and then not again and
• 25:14
  remembered not really liking it or just thinking that it didn't lead up to the
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  hype and then for the second time only this week I went back and watched The
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  Blair Witch Project oh yeah and I can just say having watched this now 20 odd
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  years after it came out this is a [ __ ] excellent movie yeah I'm talking
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  the first one the Blair Witch Project found footage I mean aside from it being
• 25:39
  largely improvised from what I recall completely improvised so essentially
• 25:43
  what happened was that the two guys that directed it had kind of plotted out what
• 25:48
  they wanted to happen and then didn't tell the actors and then put the actors
• 25:52
  in the bush and just said keep trying to get to this place and film each other
• 25:57
  doing it have conversations and stuff here's who your characters are and then
• 26:01
  occasionally we're going to give you motivations that will only tell one of
• 26:06
  you what the motivation what their character's motivation is so it's almost
• 26:10
  like a drama game you know so one gets told you've got to lose the map and and
• 26:14
  then but don't tell the others that you've lost the map for example and then
• 26:18
  one you know stuff like that so it was yeah largely improvised but I think it
• 26:23
  was the hype of this movie that just destroyed it for me because like sure
• 26:27
  when it first came out it was marketed as a documentary more or less you know
• 26:31
  but I think I I was annoyed that people thought it was real but I I mean in
• 26:35
  hindsight like we were pretty much told it was so I guess I I shouldn't have
• 26:39
  been too harsh on it you know the people that bought into it yeah and as a
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  marketing machine it was it was impressive in and of itself but just
• 26:48
  watching it now just as a movie it's very good it's tense you don't know
• 26:52
  what's going on the ending is [ __ ] terrifying and
• 26:58
  also there's guy standing in the corner Dan I don't know [ __ ] man that is so
• 27:03
  good because it's a call back to just one throwaway line at the start of the
• 27:07
  film like I got to watch it and it is it's very good and and again it's one of
• 27:12
  those things where you're like is it a witch or is it some [ __ ] creepy dude
• 27:16
  who lives in the woods or is it yeah it's it's it's very good I I
• 27:21
  really like I I remember the law of it better than I remember the film yeah
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  yeah no the film is very good and the um evidentally they also if you went to
• 27:31
  IMDb in the kind of months leading up to this movie coming out and you looked up
• 27:36
  any the actors it literally said missing presumed dead like to the point where
• 27:42
  apparently their parents were getting calls from like old friends and
• 27:46
  relatives go I'm so sorry about what happened I mean this it was the movie
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  that made all the fan footage movies like this was there weren't any before
• 27:55
  this and then now everything everything for years everything was a [ __ ] found
• 27:59
  footage movie yeah well and and the sequel to the blue witch which was not
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  and was from memory was quite good I
• 28:09
  still liked the second one actually yeah
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  yeah do the same thing yeah mirax turned this down evidently and then felt so
• 28:19
  [ __ ] about it they went and made uh paranormal activity which is you know
• 28:24
  just their their equivalent of a found footage movie yeah yeah as far as I know
• 28:28
  there's this great episode of Dawson's Creek where on the the Dawson's Creek
• 28:34
  crew who you know I don't know if you ever watched much Dawson's Creek but the
• 28:38
  whole thing is that Dawson wanted to be a film director right that was kind of
• 28:42
  his stick so they go to this wherever they filmed uh huh Blair Witch to to
• 28:48
  make a documentary about the phenomenon of Blair Witch and as they get there
• 28:52
  they get into this guy's boat and they're like oh hey dude can we film you
• 28:56
  for a documentary we're making about the Blair Witch and the guy in the boat
• 28:59
  takes out a camera he go can I film you for the documentary I'm making about
• 29:03
  idiots who come here to documentaries about the
• 29:07
  blue that's pretty good yeah
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  yeah put it back on the list man I don't remember but I remember at the time
• 29:16
  thinking it was okay but I don't know if you can go back to it
• 29:19
  now I've got I got some other horror movies on my list uh that I've got lined
• 29:23
  up I've got X and pearl lined up cuz I haven't seen those yet do it both exellent
• 29:28
  very different but uh Ty West makes good movies and then he did terrifier as well
• 29:34
  right one and two he's got another one coming out also with uh Mia go he isn't
• 29:39
  he yeah [ __ ] hell just keeps making him he does yeah and but he's really
• 29:45
  come into his own in the last couple like X and pearl are like kind of their
• 29:48
  own thing different I mean like he's like just keeps making them and making
• 29:52
  him like he's not slowing down or anything you know what I mean oh yeah I
• 29:55
  mean he doesn't spend much money on him either from what I can tell
• 29:59
  cuz I remember terfy too came out there's a lot of hype about it and now
• 30:01
  he's he's already doing got another one coming out it's like all right cool no
• 30:05
  he's good both of those are good you'll like those cool and uh there's a couple
• 30:10
  of Scream movies I got to catch up on because the new ones coming out yeah I
• 30:13
  know man the Scream movies are such a mixed bag the first two I rate I'll
• 30:18
  probably forget to be honest it's just that they're coming the new ones coming
• 30:21
  out so I keep seeing stuff about it I'm like oh yeah the problem is the problem
• 30:25
  is they do continue enough that you if you're going to watch any you do owe it
• 30:29
  to yourself to have caught up yeah the thing that annoys me now is when you
• 30:33
  look at cuz I was like what what have I missed how many are there and I've
• 30:37
  missed two or maybe even just one I'm not sure if I've seen number four I have
• 30:42
  to double check but it goes four is [ __ ] garbage it goes scream scream
• 30:48
  two scream three scream four mhm scream
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  scream yeah Scream
• 30:55
  Six okay guys what yeah yeah what was that there was a couple of years ago
• 31:01
  there was definitely a trend in just calling remake SL sequels the same name
• 31:07
  which I found bizarre and I'm glad they're moving away from that it's what
• 31:12
  if it's like a remake or reboot I think it's probably fine but if it's just the
• 31:17
  next one what are you doing yeah it's just [ __ ] confusing Yeah well yeah
• 31:24
  this was kind of a soft anyway scream not the not the original one the the
• 31:29
  more recent film called that is the continuation of the
• 31:33
  story that has the characters and actors from the first one in it so it's no
• 31:37
  one's going to be confused about the fact that it's like like why did you not
• 31:40
  just call it screen five and they reference things that have happened it's not
• 31:44
  like mind you though it's the same story line so it is kind of a soft reboot but
• 31:49
  they all kind of are yeah like yeah and I guess I haven't seen it maybe they
• 31:55
  were trying to do something clever cuz that's what scream was West CRA trying
• 31:58
  to do something clever succeeded yeah yeah introverted that's not what I meant to say
• 32:04
  um subverting int introspect subersive oh introspective yeah yeah yeah yeah
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  right he was he was trying to it was a comment films itself was a horror movie
• 32:14
  about horror movies you know yeah yes and especially since West Craven was one
• 32:19
  of the pioneers of the slashers genre
• 32:23
  yes and and here he is parodying it yeah and wildly successful in my opinion like
• 32:29
  it's just such a also he is notorious for his films just having sequels after
• 32:35
  sequels after sequels so Scream 2 was also clever because it parody horror
• 32:39
  film sequels yeah yes and then he got very depressed about what happened after
• 32:44
  that with all the others cuz he's like this is not what I wanted yeah that's
• 32:49
  right yeah so yeah they're on the list and then I don't know what else some
• 32:54
  other stuff probably yeah going to be so no that's on the list I got to watch
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  that that's one of the whest kids you know guys wrote directed that to yeah
• 33:05
  yeah that's right one of the ones that's still alive correct
• 33:10
  y um watch that I like that very well however I have recommended that to
• 33:15
  people who have literally rang me afterwards and going I'm never taking
• 33:19
  film recommendations from you again really so but I I think you'll like it I
• 33:25
  liked it and I thought the ending was good but what do I know I do know it's been
• 33:32
  hard to avoid because it was a kind of a sleeper hit so I do know that it I don't
• 33:36
  want to spoil anything for listeners it's not spoiler I don't even know
• 33:38
  anything about it I just know that it changes what it
• 33:42
  is that changes what you think it is
• 33:46
  okay all right sure yeah yeah okay in a in a in a I'll watch it it it's it
• 33:52
  doesn't try to be too clever but what it does do it does well okay all right
• 33:57
  excellent I I've really liked it I I can't I can't imagine you not liking
• 34:01
  this all right we'll find out in oh we will 2 3 weeks when I get back cuz I'm
• 34:06
  not going to watch that without Jenna that's what the problem is all these
• 34:08
  movies I'm listing now I can't I have to watch them with Jenna cuz otherwise
• 34:12
  that's you know yeah so I'm funny H loves the idea of horror movies but
• 34:17
  doesn't like to watch them right so she'll start watching them and then
• 34:22
  she'll either start going on Wikipedia halfway through to find out how it ends
• 34:27
  which I hate because somehow her knowing what happens transfers the knowledge to
• 34:32
  me I'm like sure you'll ruin it she like I won't say anything but then she'll go
• 34:37
  oh and then I'm like oh well now I know there's a Twist so now I'm going to be
• 34:40
  looking for a [ __ ] twist yeah or she's just not reacting to things and
• 34:44
  you go it's not yeah exactly exactly right so [ __ ] yeah oh cool I trying
• 34:50
  think I think I was going to say if I watched anything else actually that's
• 34:52
  quite a lot of stuff for me to have watched since the last episode to be
• 34:56
  honest I don't know what I don't know how that happened last episode of what
• 34:59
  sorry of this show I don't I've watched three fils in the last week that's very
• 35:03
  unusual for me oh sure yeah yeah so I guess we got lism going to bed
• 35:10
  successfully I guess yeah yeah um we don't oh do we have follow-up we have
• 35:15
  some sort of follow-up yeah so this is interesting because we talked two weeks
• 35:21
  ago about how the roll dial books were being censored and how everyone's angry
• 35:25
  and then we we heard about how the James Bond books are being censored and half
• 35:30
  the people are angry and half the people are angry that they're not being
• 35:32
  censored enough and then I read this week that the Goosebumps books are going
• 35:36
  to be censored right but the difference here is it's the author of Goosebumps
• 35:43
  who's decided to censor them interesting what's he censoring he's just going to
• 35:47
  update them for the times he's just going to take out updated references
• 35:51
  he's just going to polish bit oh okay similar things I think to the uh roll di
• 35:58
  buns where it's like oh you know if you know you don't call a kid fat anymore
• 36:02
  and you don't tell a girl that she's probably going to grow up secretary well
• 36:06
  I guess it depends right because if you talk those things yes or is he talking
• 36:11
  more like oh he's talking about you know putting a cassette in the tape player
• 36:15
  and kids these days if they read the book and like the [ __ ] is this guy
• 36:18
  talking about yeah I what cassette tape like that's true yeah like that kind of
• 36:23
  stuff I guess you could update you wanted to be able to just sell these
• 36:26
  books add infinite item to kids well okay you have to change them
• 36:31
  forever well so a listener listener Hannah sent in an article this week
• 36:37
  pointing out that not only do Publishers have the right but they've also got a
• 36:42
  kind of a responsibility to do exactly what you've just described if they feel
• 36:47
  that would keep the book in the kind of
• 36:51
  public awareness so if if if your book is still perfectly relevant except that
• 36:57
  kids these days don't know what a tape player is and you write CD player
• 37:02
  instead yes don't write in I'm aware CDs are all obsolete but whatever the
• 37:06
  equivalent of that might be um and that
• 37:09
  that happens far more than you even suspect because it just I think in
• 37:15
  particular for a kids book that's probably more important as well because
• 37:20
  if you're an adult reading a book you're probably more likely to go oh that's
• 37:24
  probably some technology I've not heard of and you'll figure it out like like
• 37:28
  Old stepen King almost certainly have things that I was like the [ __ ] is he
• 37:32
  talking about and then I just figured it out yeah yeah a good example a book I my
• 37:39
  daughter has is about the woman who ate the fly and then she swallows a spider
• 37:44
  to eat the fly and then she swallows a [ __ ] cat to eat that and then a and
• 37:48
  by the end she eats a horse we had that when I was a kid and she was dead by the
• 37:53
  end of it yeah oh yeah yeah she died no she doesn't die anymore Matt no she
• 37:57
  vomits she vomits all the animals out she's fine and they're all fine
• 38:02
  disgusting yeah no she died when I was a kid she's [ __ ] dead yeah yeah yeah in
• 38:07
  fact trying cover this swallows a horse she's dead of course it was like yeah of
• 38:13
  course she's dead you can't eat this kind of animal and that was the lesson
• 38:16
  don't eat a horse ho just stop yeah don't even eat the [ __ ] spider as far as I'm
• 38:22
  concerned none of the animals on this list yeah that's this list they're are
• 38:27
  delicious animals yeah they've got to be prepared though kids you can't just
• 38:32
  shove a pig in there yeah they've got to be prepared you've got to tell them in
• 38:36
  advance that they're going to be eaten yeah yeah okay evidently and and you're
• 38:40
  a vegetarian so you might appreciate this story you might already know it but
• 38:44
  um somebody that I knew who worked kind of on farms and stuff told me once that
• 38:49
  they have this there was a name for it which I forget but they keep one cow
• 38:54
  alive when they take cows off to the abire to be slaughtered right because
• 39:00
  cows are smart enough to know that if all the cows go and none of them come back
• 39:06
  so fine yeah so what they do is they bring all the cows in they take 99% of
• 39:11
  them off to be slaughtered and then they take one back to just go it's fine it's
• 39:15
  just a car ride guys he's just standing there like staring into the distance B
• 39:19
  Bob you're all right mate I don't want to talk about it he all right talk about
• 39:22
  it where's everyone else and the farmer goes Bob you [ __ ] can tell him
• 39:27
  everything's fine or your next mate that's right yeah but is it always like
• 39:33
  is next time also Bob that comes back again or does Bob get done that time
• 39:38
  yeah maybe well I I don't know I forgot to ask any follow-up questions cuz I
• 39:42
  just found it kind of like terrifyingly just terrifying in some
• 39:48
  existential way that the be I'm not going to kill you I want you to tell all
• 39:53
  your friends about me I want you to tell all your friends about me
• 39:58
  I'm beef man yeah that yeah I didn't know that that
• 40:03
  is I mean yeah that surpr me here's here's a funny little bit of of of
• 40:08
  trivia I watched recently um a
• 40:12
  comparison of all the video game tie-ins
• 40:16
  for the 1989 Batman movie right so just
• 40:20
  yeah so there ocean did a bunch for the
• 40:23
  um uh 8 and 16 bit computer scene and then and um Japanese company did The
• 40:30
  Seer and and Nintendo ones right yeah pretty different very different right
• 40:36
  with because they're not they're not even no one person and they were being
• 40:40
  developed when I was younger I was I was confused because the one I had my ComEd
• 40:43
  64 was what I knew and then I'd play one at my friend's house and I was like the
• 40:46
  [ __ ] is this yeah yeah yeah yeah same yeah um I had the Amega version um quite
• 40:52
  Sim yeah yeah they were very similar both bi ocean but um the was it ficon is
• 40:58
  that what the Japanese nintend system yeah yeah so in the ficon version
• 41:04
  there's this one cut scene where Batman grabs some dude and says where's the
• 41:09
  Joker and the guy goes oh Gotham City
• 41:12
  and Batman goes Gotham City where's that like implying that Batman is not from
• 41:18
  Gotham City all right and uh is Oliver Harper who does the the comparison he's
• 41:24
  like are they implying that like he's like this guy can't have known a single
• 41:28
  thing about Batman if he's writing in that Batman is confused by the phrase Gotham
• 41:34
  City the Joker lies yeah that's right yeah he's gotten that far but it's not
• 41:38
  common knowledge he had to ask someone no well no one knows who Batman even is
• 41:42
  Dan how's he supposed to know this poor guy fair fair y that's
• 41:49
  funny I was um be killed they say he drinks blood I watched a video oh no
• 41:53
  there a video no an article I read about the um the the the the comic book tie-in
• 41:58
  for the Batman movie and how they were basically working down to the wire on
• 42:04
  the comic book while the movie was being shot and the movie was being changed and
• 42:08
  the movie got changed after the comic book was locked and they were like we
• 42:11
  can't [ __ ] change it anymore it's not possible it's being colored in right now
• 42:16
  so so there's discrepancies in that there are some scenes in uh in the comic
• 42:22
  book that aren't in the movie anymore and some scenes play out quite
• 42:24
  differently and there's a one thing in particular is and I guess it is a bit unclear what
• 42:31
  is it that makes the Joker have the smile like do you know do you know what
• 42:36
  it's supposed to be like cuz I listen you seen this is the the think I assumed
• 42:42
  that it was the botched plastic surgery while he was being fixed up coming out
• 42:48
  of the toxic waste no cuz what happens is this is this is in the 1989 Tim bur
• 42:53
  Batman movie listeners Jack Napier shoots eart right Batman
• 42:59
  yes yeah bounces off his well it does look like the bullet goes through his
• 43:04
  cheeks that's what I always thought that's not what it's supposed to be the
• 43:07
  bullet and and if you watch it with this knowledge you can see that's kind of
• 43:11
  what they're going for the bullet Ricochet off Batman's Gauntlet hits the
• 43:15
  control panel and the glass severs the nerves in his face oh I see yeah and
• 43:22
  then he falls into the the toxic waste and it bleaches his skin and col and he
• 43:28
  BEC a joker but it's just yeah anyway it's justes that even in the comic book
• 43:32
  it's very clear that that's what's happening yeah right film it's a little
• 43:37
  more probably because the comic book's working off the script which explicitly
• 43:40
  States glass flies out from the and the Joker goes oh the glass has severed the
• 43:45
  nerves in my face then when he falls in which Jack nichon just refused to say
• 43:50
  the lines ridiculous well he did refuse to be called anything but Jack is that
• 43:54
  true I believe that's true but now that I've said it surely there was a Jack
• 43:59
  Napier in the comics or did that make up that name just for the movie well the
• 44:03
  Joker didn't have an origin I don't think this doesn't have one set origin
• 44:07
  but I think there's been oh someone's someone's yelling at their probably
• 44:11
  iPhone right now yeah yeah don't don't bother doing that send us an email
• 44:15
  that's probably the best way to get our attention it's unlikely we're within ear
• 44:18
  we can't hear you yeah it's very unlikely I had a novelization as the as
• 44:23
  always [ __ ] when I was a kid I love noiz the shelf behind me Dan yeah so I also
• 44:28
  by Sam ham yes it is by Sam ham yeah but mine I had the audio book on cassette
• 44:35
  tape just to bring this back right oh yeah read by a cassette tape read by
• 44:39
  Rody McDow of all people [ __ ] off [ __ ] yeah so if you don't know who Rod mcdal
• 44:45
  is you probably know him from Planet of the Apes or you might know him as
• 44:50
  Bookworm from the 1960s Batman on a
• 44:54
  minute Ry McDow I've got to find this if
• 44:58
  it exists yeah hold on I got to find it too now that I Ry
• 45:03
  McDow Batman andless so it just brings out Bookworm
• 45:08
  oh my God eBay Rod McDow reads Batman on
• 45:13
  cassette still it's on cassette it's $15 oh get it how would you play it how
• 45:19
  would you even play it uh the only cassette tape thing I have is my com 64
• 45:24
  one and I don't think that's going to work that is man see
• 45:27
  phenomenal I didn't know that was a thing that's ridiculous who the [ __ ] was
• 45:32
  like who can we get to read this can we do you think we can get Ry McDow do you
• 45:35
  think he's up for it yeah a moon we yeah I mean maybe if he just [ __ ] loves
• 45:42
  Batman and just wants to be part which of the two Ronn ronnes is McDow
• 45:47
  again yeah that's right listeners if you don't know what The Two Ronnies is good
• 45:52
  for you I guess SK show I went I told you I went into a who Ronnie's [ __ ]
• 45:58
  rabbit hole about 3 weeks ago did you I this is they they are writing sketches
• 46:04
  in the 60s or whenever this was 1971 70s that I'm funnier than anything
• 46:11
  they've got this one called four candles right the guy comes in and he's like uh
• 46:17
  yeah like four candles please and he's like yeah right get some gets four
• 46:21
  candles brings them out he's like n four candles handles for Forks this goes on
• 46:26
  for 10 minutes as he says things that sound like other things it's amazing
• 46:31
  listeners go to YouTube Type in four candles and just [ __ ] enjoy enjoy
• 46:36
  yourself there's one where they have you know that show Mastermind where they
• 46:40
  just it's one person in a chair and they just ask him questions yeah quiz one
• 46:43
  dude's got this weird thing where he only answers the question you asked him
• 46:48
  before right so the previous he answers the previous question when you ask him
• 46:52
  another question so he's like um what's your name and he's like fine thanks is
• 46:57
  like and how are you today and he's like Jim so like he just but then the way
• 47:01
  that it escalates it starts getting really funny because the questions start
• 47:07
  having relevance to the last questions I'm explaining it badly go to [ __ ]
• 47:11
  seriously Two Ronnies are way funnier than you remember them being all right
• 47:15
  I'll check it out and then I'll listen to him read Batman I don't I can't
• 47:20
  imagine clear rdy McDow is not one of The Two Ronnies I'm the um I'm confused
• 47:27
  no Rod mcdal is from oh my God you're right I've just Googled him I'm like oh
• 47:31
  that guy yeah he's [ __ ] Cornelius
• 47:36
  from uh right fright night he's he's the
• 47:39
  guy from Fright Night um yes he is yeah
• 47:46
  right well I feel like a fool no no I thought you were doing a bit it works it
• 47:51
  works just dumb no I mean there's no reason anyone should know Rod McDale or the two rodes
• 47:58
  but it's it's all worth it but seriously get the buy this [ __ ] Batman tape man
• 48:04
  you got to you got to buy it all right for the for the simple fact that I had
• 48:09
  forgotten do you remember this Batman was so popular in
• 48:15
  1989 that just black background and that
• 48:20
  [ __ ] bat symbol logo was on everything oh yeah and I I had to buy it
• 48:26
  like I had to buy anything that had that [ __ ] Insignia on it all right I'm
• 48:31
  going to put this in the show notes we don't need to buy it because it's in the
• 48:35
  spreadsheet down the bottom no way oh my
• 48:39
  God Batman read by Rod McDow just listen just play that first one second of it
• 48:45
  just to listen and you'll still think to yourself why him I often wondered if I
• 48:51
  was related to Sam ham when I was a kid maybe you are same surname listeners in
• 48:55
  case for some reason you don't know my surname I'm not oh I mean I don't think
• 49:02
  so so my my family name on my mom's side is Stevenson and my grandfather always
• 49:08
  told us that great great-grandfather was Robert Le Stevenson and I I can't
• 49:13
  disprove that but I'm fairly certain it's not true I hope it's true
• 49:19
  but yeah I heard I heard a journalist I heard a journalist the other day say a
• 49:23
  phrase it was a fact too good to check and I was like I love
• 49:29
  that we have a lot of those on this show we do yeah it's a story of my life I'm
• 49:34
  like good enough for me good enough for me that headline I don't want to read
• 49:37
  the rest of the article just in case yeah oh man so you know we talk about we
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  talk about how headlines are just [ __ ] lies these days right yes yep
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  like misleading to the point of just being liar I saw one that absolutely
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  Takes the Cake and I wanted toz not only do they not fact check they
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  embellish what they do what they just heard anyway we can talk about how what how
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  what what are we looking at here all right we got a bit of time um a little
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  bit of Star Wars news do we want to put Star Wars news on the table Star Wars
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  news yeah yeah let's do some Star Wars news I mean I [ __ ] hate Star Wars but
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  we're not going to have a geek of the week this week obviously because Luke's
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  not here so might as well have some Star Wars news instead now you know what I
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  I'm going to put a geek in the weekend because I I need to I need to say this
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  and Luke know who it is and so I'm just going to say it anyway mat do you know
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  who Topo is no Topo is an Israeli actor most famous for playing tevia the
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  Milkman in Fiddler on the Roof he died
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  this week aged 89 it makes me sad he was also in Flash Gordon he was also one of
• 50:45
  the Bond movies he's in Flash Gordon which I like yeah and he died and uh I'm
• 50:51
  sad because uh he's great of course Han
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  zakov yeah yeah he was the yeah the doctor he's got a very deep
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  voice what a stupid movie that I love
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  Yeah movie stupid but man I
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  just yeah yeah enjoyable as [ __ ] when you're a kid it just couldn't cast Max
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  von sidow as as Ming anymore could you no you couldn't you couldn't cast a
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  white man as a well he's not I guess the thing is he's not not just Scandinavian
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  he's as white as you could possibly but if these days they' go well Ming's
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  not Asian he's from another planet yeah Ming and why does he to ch's
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  hat yeah why is he called Ming why he why is he got that makeup on to look
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  like that yeah that's right yeah true
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  true um yeah that's up there with uh
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  Mickey Mickey's his name Mickey uh
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  breakfast at Tiffany yeah but also the only bad thing about that movie and the
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  director yeah I think said if he could go back and do anything
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  you'd make it exactly the same but he just wouldn't have that in there yeah
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  and the thing is you could probably just edit that out now like I don't know why
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  they don't to be honest it's pointless there's no point to that character being
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  in that movie no it's just a bit of listeners if you don't know a it just in
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  the same block of flats as the two lead characters is a Japanese photographer
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  and he's a [ __ ] idiot and he played by a [ __ ] white
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  American actor who just does it so over the top that it couldn't possibly have
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  not been offensive at the time it's incredibly racist yeah like there's
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  nothing redeeming about it like I said doesn't even need to be in there it's
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  almost like they're like cuz the movie is not a comedy it's a no it's a little
• 52:51
  funny in other parts but it's not not a comedy certainly not that kind of Comedy
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  it's just such a weird scene and any there's what like two or three moments
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  that he's in it's like why is that there yeah yeah I mean then there's I mean
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  there's Yu Brena who played the King of Siam in The King and I who's a [ __ ]
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  Russian guy with Gypsy background I don't know why they thought he would be
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  good for that but he doesn't play it for Laughs so I think you mean Romani Dan I
• 53:23
  think we call him the Romani now yeah that's that is true no I call
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  them Star Wars news Star Wars news Star Wars news Star Wars news Star Wars news
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  so we've got some Star Wars news Lucas film have allegedly we're going to find
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  out a bunch more stuff about any of this garbage at the uh Star Wars celebration
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  event coming up very soon y I'm sure they'll actually officially say things
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  but the rumors right now are that they've just shed most of those movies we've been
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  talking about yeah for yeah the last three or four years whatever since last
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  uh rise of Skywalker came out except the only one that they're still apparently
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  working on is the Tao yti one which they've confirmed he will star in which
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  as if we didn't know that yeah because he always just writes movies for himself to be
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  in yeah and why wouldn't you I suppose because I'm not complaining I I enjoy by
• 54:16
  TD movie as much as anyone so yeah now is this the one that this is
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  not the one where lindeloff was involved right there was a there was a lindeloff script
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  that's I think that's gone there was one patty Jenkins one is done um there was
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  one by have they finally acknowledged that Ryan Johnson is not getting his
• 54:36
  Trilogy didn't get a mention I feel like at this point they probably don't need
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  to yeah fair enough I don't think that's happening um oh Kevin feige from Marvel
• 54:47
  was apparently going to do one that's shoved as well holy [ __ ] wow they don't
• 54:51
  even trust him well man I mean everyone everyone hated that JJ Abram was that
• 54:56
  they were banking on just bringing it home without pissing anyone off what a
• 55:02
  disaster that whole thing was yeah so not only that they've uh they're being
• 55:07
  sued Now by one of The Producers they hired for the uh the series The acolyte
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  which is set during the high Republic which is that new era like the before
• 55:18
  anything we've seen mhm you know it's it's set in the past um apparently they
• 55:24
  hired this this woman to be producer on the show and on that basis she turned
• 55:30
  down uh other work specifically for for a show on Apple TV and then two weeks
• 55:36
  later they fired her and said well you didn't do any work so we're not going to
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  pay you either and so now and then so now she's this is a tricky one because
• 55:45
  both jobs basically she got lost both of the jobs cuz Apple TV hired someone else
• 55:49
  cuz she said no sorry I'm working for Disney now that kind
• 55:54
  of that in it itself is not On Disney I think because I've been in situations
• 55:59
  where I've turned down one job to take another job and that's just kind of on
• 56:02
  me if that job didn't pan out yeah I suppose so I think the the dis the
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  dispute is I think she signed a contract and they're now saying now there wasn't
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  a contract which I mean that seems like fairly easy to prove one way or another
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  so well it probably is easy enough to prove if you're not going against Disney
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  and their team of 40 lawyers so Disney have probably got to we can do what we want
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  Clause yeah good point all right but uh
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  yeah this is this isn't like um in the past where people have like Disney have
• 56:36
  fired this person no they've just not hired them again this person literally
• 56:40
  was fired as far as I can tell and and said they immediately started working on
• 56:45
  the show for two weeks and then got fired and so so which this was the
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  acolyte right yeah okay yes oh interesting so I is not necessarily a
• 56:57
  teaser trailer but there was at least like a a logo reveal or something for
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  this yes I believe so yeah this is yeah like I said set during the high Republic
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  it's going to be they've got a bunch of stuff in that era already I haven't seen
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  any High Republic before or after Old Republic huh interesting you know what I
• 57:17
  don't know now I don't know Luke would probably
• 57:22
  know I've so lost interest did you know the Mandalorian season 3 is watchable I
• 57:27
  keep forgetting I've not watch watchable as in good or watchable as in it's as in
• 57:30
  watchable as in you could watch it I don't know I'm not commenting on the
• 57:33
  quality of it I haven't even seen the
• 57:37
  second half of Andor and not because I don't like Andor the first three
• 57:43
  episodes were great yeah that's a good show I just I'm burned out from Star
• 57:49
  Wars they've made too many and too much of it is garbage and you know what I
• 57:53
  learned this week it's the 20th anniversary of Clone Wars Clone Wars is
• 58:00
  20 years old so that leads kind of into this other article right so someone
• 58:05
  asked John favra this week favro about the original theatrical cuts of Star
• 58:10
  Wars in an interview and said do you think we'll ever get those and he said
• 58:14
  what you need to realize is the number of people who actually
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  give a [ __ ] about that is minute and and and dwindling like every day it's
• 58:23
  smaller and smaller because it's our generation and then the the majority of
• 58:28
  Star Wars fans now either saw the prequels so Star Wars is just completely
• 58:33
  different to them like they don't give a [ __ ] about what whatever we're talking
• 58:36
  about this theatrical business because it doesn't wouldn't make any sense to
• 58:39
  them anymore or there are most Star Wars fans the youngest Star Wars fans started
• 58:45
  with the Clone Wars and [ __ ] yeah they don't know what they don't know what
• 58:48
  we're talking about when we say that's right yeah like oh the original Star we
• 58:52
  say little things like oh no it used to be that when you looked out that window
• 58:55
  you just Stars you didn't see clouds and ships gone by they' be like yeah that
• 58:59
  was just a w [ __ ] mate yeah like yeah they don't care but you know why because
• 59:04
  this it doesn't really matter that much to be honest no look I I'm realizing
• 59:09
  that day yeah but but he's right when he says it's dwindling because I don't even
• 59:15
  care now like honestly I don't even care now I read this article and I was like
• 59:18
  yeah he's right it's not worth but we have talked about the fact that there
• 59:22
  weren't an original theatrical cut because every Cinema a slightly
• 59:26
  different version based on where he was up to in the process yeah so he didn't
• 59:30
  comment on any of that which I mean he I'm sure he probably knows that but his
• 59:33
  yeah his major point was just that nobody cares about that there's no
• 59:37
  there's yeah there's no market for them to do that and it would be a hassle
• 59:43
  because they really did go back for the special editions they really truly did
• 59:47
  go back to the original negatives yeah and reconstruct the film and the old
• 59:53
  ones are gone like yeah George luas wasn't lying when he said that there are
• 59:59
  copies of the films that were made for Cinemas but you can't remaster that the
• 1:00:04
  way they remaster stuff now yeah yeah cuz I remember at one
• 1:00:08
  point the Smithsonian or the American Film Institute or something was like we
• 1:00:13
  want a copy of this like for posterity and was like there isn't a copy there
• 1:00:17
  isn't one version you could take because people say oh the people have film
• 1:00:22
  copies right but you can get those online right and you can download them
• 1:00:25
  and watch them that's not what people want what people want is Blu-ray
• 1:00:30
  remaster the same way you get all these other movies Blu-ray remaster from the
• 1:00:34
  original negative with all the imperfections fixed like beautiful crisp
• 1:00:40
  image that doesn't exist it's not possible it literally doesn't exist a
• 1:00:45
  version called the despecialized version where some dudes have try to reconstruct
• 1:00:51
  an approximation of that that's as close as you're ever going to get and it's
• 1:00:54
  pretty good so just just be thankful that that still exists right yeah but
• 1:01:00
  anyway like I said and even if they could do it they won't forget about it
• 1:01:05
  it's done I saw a meme the other day that said um it had that scene where
• 1:01:09
  it's like uh he was our last hope and
• 1:01:12
  Yoda goes no there is another um there's and then it says people who have watched
• 1:01:18
  the Clone Wars no there are five to six
• 1:01:23
  others yeah well well that's yeah that's
• 1:01:28
  and that's what kids that is that is Star Wars mind you so we go that's a
• 1:01:33
  mess they go what what do you mean yeah yeah yeah it all just yeah cuz they
• 1:01:37
  watch it doing quotes yeah exactly yeah like but why did obiwan say this cuz he
• 1:01:43
  was [ __ ] lying to him mate yeah they
• 1:01:47
  don't see it as a plot hole no um but I I wish I like the Clone Wars when I read
• 1:01:52
  about some of the plots in this in the Clone Wars like about
• 1:01:56
  how Quon was the first one to really study the force from a like a academic
• 1:02:02
  point of view to try to figure out how to transition I saw C I saw Clips
• 1:02:07
  there's an episode where uh somebody goes to a planet where you can commune
• 1:02:12
  with the force and talks to and yeah I've seen all these clips I'm like I
• 1:02:15
  guess I I guess I wish I liked this more it looks [ __ ] amazing when you just
• 1:02:20
  watch that and then you start from episode one you're like this is just a
• 1:02:22
  [ __ ] garbage kids show yeah like I think it took a little while cuz even
• 1:02:27
  the um the quality of the animation when I see those clips I'm like that's not
• 1:02:32
  what I was watching I think you got to get past the first season or two cuz
• 1:02:37
  yeah yeah that first season is rough yeah for me anyway can't do
• 1:02:43
  it Yoda sitting on top of a tank going hello B to look behind you and they go
• 1:02:49
  where where and he like like I'm like what the [ __ ] is this yeah this isn't
• 1:02:54
  Star Wars I it's not my Star Wars yeah well guess what you don't you don't
• 1:02:58
  have star there's no your Star Wars anymore it doesn't exist it does it
• 1:03:02
  exists on the DVDs in my basement yeah in a have to remind myself that even when I was a
• 1:03:08
  kid there was still that Star Wars
• 1:03:13
  droids show cartoon spin-off there was courage which was [ __ ] garage not
• 1:03:19
  here so we can [ __ ] on that yeah yeah there was the [ __ ] holiday special
• 1:03:23
  like it was never as pure as we pretend it was no no no we did that in our
• 1:03:29
  heads we did we all did collectively it was like a mass hysteria where we all
• 1:03:35
  remember it this certain way that it never was yeah well it was for us on our
• 1:03:41
  VHS tapes yeah I think that's you said this the other day you were like the
• 1:03:46
  version that we remember is not even this theatrical cut everyone keeps
• 1:03:50
  speculating about VHS yeah that's right yeah and the TV cut yeah whatever the
• 1:03:57
  the first time I ever watched Star Wars I taped it off the
• 1:04:01
  Telly I had to go to bed I set the tape up and record I went to bed cuz it got
• 1:04:06
  to 8:30 and I was a child my parents said go to bed in the morning I got up
• 1:04:11
  early and I watched like an hour of it before school and then I begged to be
• 1:04:15
  allowed to stay home and watch the rest and they said no so I watched the rest
• 1:04:19
  when I got home yeah you spent the whole day just wondering [ __ ] if they
• 1:04:23
  decided to attack the Dead star yeah exactly yeah exactly and then uh and
• 1:04:28
  then I watched the rest of it that night and that's the first time I saw Star
• 1:04:32
  Wars yeah I had an ear achee like my ear drum ruptured as it did like three times
• 1:04:38
  when I was a kid and uh that's not funny my dad [ __ ] hilarious is it man my
• 1:04:44
  dad tricked me by telling me that um there was some kind of like Sonic cure
• 1:04:50
  where like sound waves would make it feel better so that I like I had to
• 1:04:54
  watch videos but what he was really the one was just trying to distract me which
• 1:04:57
  was genius right um so he went to the video store and he brought me back two
• 1:05:02
  movies I'd never heard of Raiders the Lost Arc and Star Wars and uh I just
• 1:05:07
  watched the two movies just became my favorite movies forever yeah I don't
• 1:05:12
  remember the first time I watched Raiders even I mean this it would have
• 1:05:16
  been a similar scenario I'm sure it was on you know what I think I might have
• 1:05:19
  seen Temple of Doom first cuz it was on TV technically it's
• 1:05:24
  a prequel so actually that would work when did that come out that actually
• 1:05:28
  might be it they both of those were out before we were yeah yeah 84 I wasn't watching
• 1:05:35
  Templer Doom when I was four at least I shouldn't have been speaking of doing
• 1:05:39
  things you shouldn't do when you're four well weird um is this an Afterparty SE
• 1:05:45
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• 1:05:48
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• 1:06:41
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