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Instant Reaction: Vice Presidential Debate · Bloomberg Intelligence

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.
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Speaker 2: And ninety minutes of debate between Senator JD Vance and
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Speaker 2: Governor Timwalls ends Welcome back to Bloomberg TV and radio.
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Speaker 2: Simulcast coverage of this debate on CBS. Of course, over
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Speaker 2: the next last ninety minutes, we saw Mike's hot and
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Speaker 2: facts sometimes checked, although jd Vance was not too happy
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Speaker 2: about that, as they fielded questions on a number of subjects,
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Speaker 2: and Governor Walls described himself as someone who frequently misspeaks.
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Speaker 2: He admitted he mispoke about a trip to China the
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Speaker 2: timing of that in nineteen eighty nine. He appeared to
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Speaker 2: misspeak once again in this debate, saying he'd become friends
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Speaker 2: with school shooters, while jd Vance, toward the end of
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Speaker 2: their discussion, refused to say whether or not Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: lost in the twenty twenty election. There were a number
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Speaker 2: of topics as well Joe Matthew that were not broached
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Speaker 2: in this debate, including questions around Ukraine, for example, or
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Speaker 2: the military service of Governor.
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Speaker 3: Walltz Yeah, both of which we did we hear quite
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Speaker 3: a bit of time spent on here, not the case
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Speaker 3: this evening. Some interesting choices when it came to topics,
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Speaker 3: for instance, family leave instead of one of the two
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Speaker 3: hot wars that are raging right now around the world,
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Speaker 3: and some interesting moments for both candidates. Tim Walls might
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Speaker 3: be remembered Kayley for his line about being friends with
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Speaker 3: school shooters. A lot of people are wondering what he
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Speaker 3: meant by that. It has already gone viral. Donald Trump,
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Speaker 3: of course, was updating things live online on truth Social
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Speaker 3: with a post now showing a lawn sign. It's already
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Speaker 3: been made Trump Vance twenty four not friends with school shooters.
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Speaker 3: Let's bringing our political panel. Rick Davis and Genie Shanzeno
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Speaker 3: Bloomberg Politics contributors were watching along with us here, and
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Speaker 3: of course the question for both of you, did anyone
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Speaker 3: win this debate? Geenie? Was this a draw? Or do
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Speaker 3: we actually have a winner that moved the needle?
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Speaker 4: I think from a purely debating perspective, I think you
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Speaker 4: have to give it to jd Vance. I don't think
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Speaker 4: that's much of a surprise. He is a seasoned He
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Speaker 4: was very good with Tim Ryan, he was good tonight.
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Speaker 4: I think what he did that threw Tim Waltz off
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Speaker 4: a bit was he was very sort of willing to
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Speaker 4: reach across the aisle. He was friendly, he was affable,
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Speaker 4: he was, you know, talking about being bipartisan, all of
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Speaker 4: those kinds of things. So anybody and many of us
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Speaker 4: thought he might be an attack dog. He was not
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Speaker 4: that he so I think when you look at purely
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Speaker 4: from debate points, he had a very good night. Tim
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Speaker 4: Waltz had some good moments. His talk about healthcare was
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Speaker 4: I think one of his best, as was the January sixth.
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Speaker 4: Unfortunately for Tim Waltz, those came towards the end of
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Speaker 4: the middle end of the debate. You wanted those more
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Speaker 4: at the front, but he seemed nervous, and that's understandable.
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Speaker 4: This is a big stage for him, biggest he's ever
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Speaker 4: been on, and quite frankly, not that much different than
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Speaker 4: his debate in Minnesota for the governor's race, where he
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Speaker 4: seemed to stumble a bit on words. The school shooter thing,
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Speaker 4: the knucklehead common and I think those are what people
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Speaker 4: who know him expected. So I don't think it's a surprise,
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Speaker 4: but I do think it wasn't Tim Waltz's best to
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Speaker 4: night or best showing well.
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Speaker 2: We want to go now live to the spin room
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Speaker 2: to get some reaction in real time from the floor
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Speaker 2: in New York. Bloomberg's Amory Hoarder is there now, Amory.
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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Kaylie, and I'm joined here by
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Speaker 5: Senator Katie Britt.
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Speaker 2: Of course of Alabama.
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Speaker 5: Let's just get your reaction to tonight.
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Speaker 6: I know before you went.
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Speaker 5: Into that debate, you were in the spin room talking
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Speaker 5: about you think Senator Vance could close the gap. He
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Speaker 5: had almost an awkward start to this campaign trail. How
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Speaker 5: did you think he performed tonight.
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Speaker 7: I thought he was outstanding. I think that was one
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Speaker 7: of the best debate performances in American history. I thought
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Speaker 7: he was collected, he was on point, and he was
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Speaker 7: very direct. But I thought the American people got to
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Speaker 7: know JD. Vance to your point. I was asked a
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Speaker 7: number of times before this, and I said, I was
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Speaker 7: honored to know JD. Not just as a colleague, but
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Speaker 7: as a person, as a friend. And when you get
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Speaker 7: to know people like he and Usha as people and
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Speaker 7: as parents, you get to see their heart, You get
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Speaker 7: to see their vision for the country. Tonight he laid
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Speaker 7: out a vision and he showed why Donald Trump needs
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Speaker 7: to be back in the White House. So I thought
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Speaker 7: he did an excellent job. I thought people got an
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Speaker 7: opportunity to get to know my friend and got to
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Speaker 7: know what I believe in him, and know that he
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Speaker 7: is ready to be the vice president and obviously to serve.
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Speaker 5: Do you think this moves the needle? Though everyone says
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Speaker 5: only people pay attention to the top of the ticket,
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Speaker 5: does a debate like the running mate move the needle? Look?
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Speaker 7: I mean, I think he did a great job, very
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Speaker 7: clear in laying out Donald Trump's policies and why we
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Speaker 7: want to go back to a period of prosperity, a
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Speaker 7: period of a secure border of Latino chaos across the
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Speaker 7: globe and the way that we're seeing it today, a
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Speaker 7: place where your dollar goes further, where they're at the
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Speaker 7: grocery store, at the gas station. And so I think
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Speaker 7: he succinctly did that. But what he also did is
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Speaker 7: he reached people. I mean, his ability to just have come.
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Speaker 7: It felt like you got to know him, you got
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Speaker 7: to see his vision, and you felt hopeful for the future.
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Speaker 7: I got a text from my ninth grade son that said, Mom, like,
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Speaker 7: I like what he's saying, Like this is great stuff,
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Speaker 7: Like this is you know, good, good job.
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Speaker 5: I feel like your ninth grade son should be in bed,
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Speaker 5: But I guess what we'll give him this one given
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Speaker 5: his mom's on TV also spinning the debate. Can we
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Speaker 5: ask you just one final question about what is actually
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Speaker 5: going on right now and potentially if there's going to
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Speaker 5: be some Congressional action on two things happening right now
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Speaker 5: in the United States? Won the hurricane? Will Congress come back?
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Speaker 1: Look?
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Speaker 7: I know we saw Joe Biden come out and say
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Speaker 7: Congress needed to come back, and then we saw his
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Speaker 7: press team walk it back. Unfortunately, that's more of the
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Speaker 7: same of what we're seeing from this administration. We saw
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Speaker 7: Kamala Harris go in and get a briefing, come out
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Speaker 7: and not answer any questions. Obviously, we really lack a
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Speaker 7: commander in chief and number two in charge that's really
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Speaker 7: able to give us direction and can point this country
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Speaker 7: in the right direction even in a time of chaos
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Speaker 7: like this. I don't think you'll see us come back truly.
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Speaker 7: They've obviously released the twenty billion dollars. There are a
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Speaker 7: number of items we need to take care of, like
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Speaker 7: appropriations bills, amongst other things. So if we do come back,
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Speaker 7: we certainly have a lot of work, but unfortunately every
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Speaker 7: time we're in session, Chuck Schumer chooses to not put
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Speaker 7: bills of meeting on the floor.
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Speaker 5: Senator Haggerdy has spoke today of Tennessee devastating pictures. He
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Speaker 5: said he's getting everything right now from the federal government,
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Speaker 5: but if he wasn't, he would like to come back.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: I'm always happy to work, always happy to come back
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Speaker 7: and do our job. I am frustrated though, as a
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Speaker 7: United States Senator that we lack when you see what
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Speaker 7: Chuck Schumer chooses to put on the floor versus what
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Speaker 7: he should be putting on the floor, things like the NDAA,
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Speaker 7: things like appropriations bills that fund homeland security, amongst other things, NDAA,
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Speaker 7: the Farm Bill. There's a ton of work to be done.
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Speaker 7: I'm ready to do it, but we need some new
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Speaker 7: leadership and Republicans. This is why it's so important for
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Speaker 7: us to take back the Senate so we can actually
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Speaker 7: do the job that people send us up.
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Speaker 4: There to do.
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Speaker 5: Senaor Katie Britt, thank you so much for your time,
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Speaker 5: Kaylee and Joe Senri dri Very. That's his performance this evening.
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Speaker 3: All right, Emery Hordern in the spin room for us
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Speaker 3: as we continue to unpack what we just experienced in
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Speaker 3: the vice presidential debate. And we'd really liked to stick
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Speaker 3: with our panel here, our signature panel for their clutch analysis,
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Speaker 3: and that includes Rick Davis, of course, Bloomberg Politics contributor.
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Speaker 3: Let's go big picture, Rick, your impressions. You sat here
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Speaker 3: watching this with us for ninety minutes. Did somebody win
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Speaker 3: this debate?
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Speaker 6: You know, I don't know if there were winners and losers.
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Speaker 6: I think each one of them sort of comported themselves
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Speaker 6: in a way that wasn't, you know, particularly special, but
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Speaker 6: you know, sort of met the needs of their candidates. Really,
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Speaker 6: this is all about reinforcing, you know, the standards that
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Speaker 6: the candidates are running at. At the top of the ticket,
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Speaker 6: I think JD. Vans did a very good job, very
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Speaker 6: disciplined job of returning repeatedly to immigration, you know, the
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Speaker 6: soft underbelly of the Biden administration, and criticizing almost on
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Speaker 6: every issue some form of immigration impact and whether it
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Speaker 6: was on housing or the economy, national security. And so
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Speaker 6: he came with a plan, he executed his plan. Tim
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Speaker 6: Walls was Tim Walls. I mean, he got put on
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Speaker 6: this ticket because he was everybody's grandpa and you know,
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Speaker 6: the football coach showed up tonight, you know, and this
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Speaker 6: is clearly what the Harris campaign wants to present. It
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Speaker 6: was unpolished, rough on the edges sometimes, but I would
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Speaker 6: say delivered a lot of good hits against Donald Trump,
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Speaker 6: which was his job, and a very compelling final argument
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Speaker 6: on democracy and the twenty twenty elections at the end
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Speaker 6: of the debate. So, is anybody gonna, you know, stop
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Speaker 6: the momentum that the Harris campaign has right now? Probably not.
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Speaker 6: Are they going to augment the Trump campaign and somehow
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Speaker 6: probably not. Actually thought both of the candidates today on
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Speaker 6: the stage tried to actually get along with one another,
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Speaker 6: and I think for the purposes of a political campaign,
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Speaker 6: this civility probably neutralized lot of the attacks.
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Speaker 2: All Right, Rick Davis and Jeanie Shanzana will be back
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Speaker 2: with us in just a moment right now that we
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Speaker 2: want to go back to the spin room floor where
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Speaker 2: anriy Horder is joined by the Governor of Illinois, Henry.
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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Kaylie. And that's right, I'm joined
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Speaker 5: by the Governor of Illinois, Dab Pritzker, thank you so much.
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Speaker 5: So I just want to get your reaction to how
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Speaker 5: you thought Governor Walls did, I know it's someone you're
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Speaker 5: very friendly with.
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Speaker 1: Tim Walls did what Tim Walls does best, which is
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Speaker 1: he showed his heart, especially for middle class Americans, for
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Speaker 1: everyday Americans. It's what he believes in his heart, right,
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Speaker 1: standing up for the issues that matter most at the
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Speaker 1: kitchen table for most people, making sure that they have
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Speaker 1: the ability to retire, the ability to send their kids
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Speaker 1: to college, right, putting dollars in their pocket with a
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Speaker 1: child tax credit, helping them afford to buy a house.
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Speaker 1: That's what Tim Walls talked about throughout this debate. He
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Speaker 1: also stood up for people's individual freedoms. And then very
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Speaker 1: importantly at the end, I think you heard a very
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Speaker 1: important message, which is Tim Walls will live up to
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Speaker 1: the obligations the job of being vice president, the oath
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Speaker 1: that he would take if he became vice president. Where
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Speaker 1: his opponent would not even admit that Donald Trump lost
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election, and he was pressed on that.
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Speaker 1: So I think you got to look at the contrast
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Speaker 1: between the character of these two people.
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Speaker 5: Do you think a VP debate, though, can move the needle?
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Speaker 5: I mean, you look at these polls, it's a nice edge.
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Speaker 5: This election neck and neck in all of these swing states.
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Speaker 5: I know, Wisconsin so close to you, you share sometimes
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Speaker 5: a media market with them. Do you think a VP
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Speaker 5: debate actually can move some of these voters that are
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Speaker 5: waiting on the sidelines.
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Speaker 1: I think the fact that it is so close is
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Speaker 1: why this VP debate matters, And what really matters about
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Speaker 1: it is, again, are you reaching and talking to everyday Americans,
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Speaker 1: working families that are, you know, sometimes suffering from the
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Speaker 1: challenges of the world coming on them, right, And so
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Speaker 1: you heard Tim Wallas talk about what the solutions are
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Speaker 1: for those families. You didn't hear anything from JD. Vance
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Speaker 1: about how to solve those problems. All he did was
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Speaker 1: sort of lie and then stand up for Donald Trump's
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Speaker 1: lies over and over again. It's frankly, he's very slick debater, JD.
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Speaker 1: Vance and if you could get sort of sucked in
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Speaker 1: by that, But it was Tim Walls who just said
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Speaker 1: it the way that everyday Americans talk. You know, the
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Speaker 1: guy down the street that you trust to watch your
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Speaker 1: kids when you're you know, when you're off doing something
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Speaker 1: during the day, or you know the coach that you
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Speaker 1: had in college or in high school. That really mattered
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Speaker 1: to you and made a difference. That's who Tim Walls
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Speaker 1: really is.
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Speaker 5: One quick one finally, just on what's going on right
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Speaker 5: now with the DOC workers. Do you think the President
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Speaker 5: needs to enact TAFT Hartley to get these workers back
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Speaker 5: because this is affecting half of US trade.
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Speaker 1: Look what he said and I believe it too, is
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Speaker 1: that working men and women have the right to organize
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Speaker 1: and if they want to get better pay and they
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Speaker 1: want to get safer workplaces, they have the right to
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Speaker 1: strike if they want. I also believe that the President
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Speaker 1: and the Vice President want to bring the parties together
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Speaker 1: so that there's a real solution to this. So that's
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Speaker 1: going to happen. That happened with the UAW strike, it's
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Speaker 1: going to happen here. But standing up for the rights
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Speaker 1: of American workers to get better pay, to argue and
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Speaker 1: have the power to collectively bargain for a shafer workplace,
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Speaker 1: those are things that really matter to this administration, and
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Speaker 1: I think we'll see a solution to this problem.
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Speaker 5: Governor, thank you so much for your time this even
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Speaker 5: thank you Kaylee Joe. Of course that was Governor J. B.
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Speaker 5: Pritzker of Illinois and Marie.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Talking to one of many surrogates
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Speaker 3: gathered in the spin room tonight. It's been pretty busy
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Speaker 3: with both campaigns trying to frame the conversation that just
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Speaker 3: happened to the benefit of their candidates. Of course, as
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Speaker 3: we reassemble our political panel, Rick Davis and Jeanie Schanzano
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Speaker 3: or with us coming off of the only vice presidential
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Speaker 3: debate that we're going to get here, Tim Walls had
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Speaker 3: a couple of odd moments, at least different. I think
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Speaker 3: we can admit for a a debate like this, referring
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Speaker 3: to himself as a knucklehead, I think you recalled genie.
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Speaker 3: And then this line about being friends with school shooters,
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Speaker 3: which Frank Luntz already on Twitter this evening says, will
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Speaker 3: be the most memorable line from this debate is that
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Speaker 3: our takeaway.
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Speaker 4: That'll be probably the takeaway that gets a lot of
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Speaker 4: the social media coverage. I hope people also focus on
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Speaker 4: some of the other things Tim Waltz had to say.
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Speaker 4: Number one, when he said president's words matter. Throughout this debate,
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Speaker 4: we've been seeing Donald Trump live truth. I guess we
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Speaker 4: would call it. People should take a look at what
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Speaker 4: he is saying and look at what he's been saying
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Speaker 4: all day and for the last week, and quite frankly,
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Speaker 4: for the last year. He also pinned jd Vance down
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Speaker 4: on the question of did Donald Trump lose the twenty
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Speaker 4: twenty election. Jd Vance nosey lost, couldn't say it. He
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Speaker 4: so he had some important moments there where he reminded us,
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Speaker 4: this is Tim Waltz, and this is not really quite
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Speaker 4: frankly about jd Vance. This is about the two people
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Speaker 4: at the top of the ticket, and it is a
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Speaker 4: choice between those two that people have to make. So
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Speaker 4: from that perspective, he was able to make the case
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Speaker 4: in a different vernacular. For sure, words we've probably never
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Speaker 4: heard on the debate stage. But I think maybe if
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Speaker 4: people look beyond some of that, they're going to see
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Speaker 4: what he said does really have an impact on this race.
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Speaker 2: Well as we consider what was said there. Jade Vance
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Speaker 2: in the past has said that he doesn't want to
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Speaker 2: get ahead of Donald Trump in saying things about his policies,
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Speaker 2: including on the issue of abortion and whether or not
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump would veto a federal ban. Jd Vance was
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Speaker 2: talking about that during the debate. Donald Trump, in his
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Speaker 2: life play by play on True Social then said everyone
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Speaker 2: knows I would not support a federal abortion ban under
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Speaker 2: any circumstances, and would in fact veto it, the first
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Speaker 2: time we have heard him commit to a veto Rick.
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Speaker 2: I just wonder, as Jade Vance was on that stage
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Speaker 2: talking about Republicans need to gain the trust of voters
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Speaker 2: who do not trust them on this issue, is it
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Speaker 2: too late for Donald Trump to definitively say something it
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Speaker 2: for it to matter.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think this all resonates around the massive gender
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Speaker 6: gap that exists in the selection. And by the way,
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Speaker 6: on both sides, right there's the largest female gender gap
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Speaker 6: to the advantage of Harris and a large male gender
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Speaker 6: gap that is the advantage of Donald Trump. And clearly
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Speaker 6: Donald Trump is super sensitive on this issue because he's
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Speaker 6: been all over the map on it. And I'm sure
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Speaker 6: the advisors are sitting there right now trying to talk
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Speaker 6: through how do we clean up you know, the sort
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Speaker 6: of confusion that's been created, because even jd Vance was inarticulate,
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Speaker 6: I would say, into what is he actually endorsed, because
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Speaker 6: you know, the easy answer is, oh, well, we're just
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Speaker 6: going to let states deal with it. But then criticize
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Speaker 6: the governor Waltz's policies in the state. Well, if you're
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Speaker 6: letting states deal with it, then Minnesota to be able
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Speaker 6: to do whatever they want to do.
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Speaker 2: Point out that jd Vance during the debate said he
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Speaker 2: never supported a federal abortion ban, but he did in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two say he would like abortion to be
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Speaker 2: illegal nationally.
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Speaker 7: No, if you have it.
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Speaker 3: Look, they both have their moments here. Interesting to hear
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty come up. Toward the end of this debate
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Speaker 3: as well. Walls asks about Trump. Did he lose the
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty election. I'm focused on the future, said jd Vance.
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Speaker 3: Walls called that a damning non answer.
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Speaker 2: Is that right?
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Speaker 4: It's absolutely right? And you know, I think both of
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Speaker 4: them did this repeatedly. They tried to drive a division
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Speaker 4: of a wedge, if you will, between their candidate at
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Speaker 4: the top of the ticket. And of course jd Vance
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Speaker 4: doesn't want to stand up there and say he disagrees
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Speaker 4: with Donald Trump. And yet the reality is is we
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Speaker 4: all have to think about the fact that Donald Trump
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Speaker 4: to this moment still claims he won that election and
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Speaker 4: jd Vance stands there knowing that he lost and cannot
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Speaker 4: say it. And so that just underscores where we are
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Speaker 4: in this race. It's a really important one.
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Speaker 2: Well certainly, and this may be the only moments like
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Speaker 2: this of to sharing a debate stage we're going to
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Speaker 2: get over the next five weeks. With this performance from
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Speaker 2: jd Vance after the initial Donald Trump Kamala Harris debate,
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Speaker 2: in which she was widely seen as winning, do you
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Speaker 2: think it's more likely or less likely now that they
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Speaker 2: agree to a second presidential debate before November?
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Speaker 6: For yeah, I really don't think. I mean jd Vance
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Speaker 6: did a fine job, was very disciplined, as we've said,
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Speaker 6: but I don't think it has any impact on Donald Trump.
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Speaker 6: Donald Trump is afraid of getting on the stage. You know,
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Speaker 6: with Kamala Harris, he got man handled literally in the
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Speaker 6: debate that he had with her. The staff don't want
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Speaker 6: him back on a stage. They see that as a
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Speaker 6: risk that they're unwilling to take, and so I really
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Speaker 6: don't think this changes anything in that construct. So I
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Speaker 6: think you're right, Kayleie. I think we've seen the last
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Speaker 6: debate of this election cycle, and I would say, at best,
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Speaker 6: slight advantage for Advance, but really no harm, no foul
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Speaker 6: to either of the candidates.
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Speaker 3: On the top of the tickets, we're out of time here.
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Speaker 3: But does Donald Trump feel better about his pick tonight?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he probably does, and Maga probably likes him a
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Speaker 6: little bit better. So yeah, maybe his numbers even improve
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Speaker 6: a little bit, but not enough to move the ballot.
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Speaker 3: We've experienced another one with Rick and Genie many thanks
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Speaker 3: to our signature panel, Rick Davis Genie Shanzano as part
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Speaker 3: of our special coverage of the vice presidential debate on
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Speaker 3: CBS simulcast here on Bloomberg TV and Radio. I'm Joe
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Speaker 3: Matthew alongside Kaylee Lions. We'll be back from Washington. Kayley,
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Speaker 3: I don't know how we'll pull that off. At noontime tomorrow,
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Speaker 3: I'll meet you there.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, sounds good. In the meantime, have a good evening.
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