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Hour Three | Nick Underhill Joins, Saints OTAs & Ask the Bench · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt flynn'sday.
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  Speaker 2: Hester and Hester got it fata far.
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  Speaker 1: From carrying each other to and Natty to carrying each other.
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  Speaker 3: On the air, we all.
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  Speaker 1: Live from the Raising Kine Studio. It's off the bench, all.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Welcome back again that number three of O t
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  Speaker 4: B here on this Tuesday morning. Of course, Tuesday Show
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  Speaker 4: on a Tuesday morning, we catch up with our guy
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  Speaker 4: Nick Underhill, New Orleans dot Football.
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  Speaker 5: Who joins us now, Nicholas, How you doing this week, sir?
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  Speaker 6: Doing great? Doing great? How you guys doing?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Doing great? Blessed, highly favored. I always appreciate at the time. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: it's a big day in the NFL, so normally we
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  Speaker 4: like we dive right into it.
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  Speaker 5: Let's get into the Saints.
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  Speaker 4: But I gotta ask you, man, I mean, you had
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  Speaker 4: Miles Gary getting traded for Jared Vers. You had aj
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  Speaker 4: Brown finally getting traded after we talked about it for months.
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  Speaker 4: You had Obj go back to the Giant. You had
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  Speaker 4: Russell Wilson retire. I mean, yesterday was about as loud
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  Speaker 4: as the Monday in the all season could be in
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  Speaker 4: the National Football League.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to wonder, like, is that the
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  Speaker 2: biggest trade of like in NFL history.
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  Speaker 6: It's got to be up there.
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  Speaker 2: The only other one I could think of is Marshall
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  Speaker 2: Falk maybe the Rams like in his prime, Like Stafford
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  Speaker 2: obviously is up there, but he was a little you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's franchise changing maybe a little.
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  Speaker 7: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it's probably comparable. Jalen Ramsey might be in there.
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  Speaker 2: I mean these are all Rams though, which is crazy
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  Speaker 2: that like trade you could argue like Brett Farv and
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  Speaker 2: Steve Young, but like we didn't know they were Brett
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  Speaker 2: Farvin Steve Young at the time.
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  Speaker 6: What else is out there?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 2: The Revas trade didn't really work out. The sauce trade
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  Speaker 2: didn't really work out. So it's either him or Marshall Fulk.
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  Speaker 2: I think this one of Marshall Fuck. I like the
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  Speaker 2: trade for him.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 2: The thing that I found most interesting is just kind
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  Speaker 2: of like talking to people, you know, executives and people
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  Speaker 2: in the league like after this trade, like their reaction they're.
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  Speaker 6: All like Indie got more or gave up more.
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  Speaker 2: For sauce, and I'm like, well, I don'd rather a burse,
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  Speaker 2: I think than the trump pit. Like we know what
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  Speaker 2: he is, he's got three years of team control, Rookie
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  Speaker 2: of the year, two time pro bowler. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: like it, Like you would probably trade a top fifteen
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  Speaker 2: pick for him right now to get him on your team.
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  Speaker 2: But the overvaluing of draft picks, I think is something
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  Speaker 2: that can be like highly exploited just the way people
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  Speaker 2: view him. You know, you see that family guy meme
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  Speaker 2: all the time where it's like Peter Griffin's looking at
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  Speaker 2: the box and he's like, well, anything could be in
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  Speaker 2: the box. It could even be the boat, Like yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but like the boat's right there. People people love these,
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  Speaker 2: they love picks. Man picks get over valued and yeah
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  Speaker 2: they're perfect, But like the fifty hit rate on him
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  Speaker 2: in the first round, give me Jared Verse and you
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  Speaker 2: know the second and the third and in the other
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  Speaker 2: first Like I'd rather have that, but huge trade rams
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  Speaker 2: are going for it. I think it makes some like
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  Speaker 2: immediate favorites, you know, out.
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  Speaker 6: Of the NFC.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Nick, are you surprised that the Browns didn't try
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  Speaker 8: to shop this little bit?
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  Speaker 3: More?
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  Speaker 8: Like the reports coming out is like they're the only
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  Speaker 8: people the Rams are the only people that had meaningful conversation.
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  Speaker 8: Now you're dealing with the best defensive player in the NFL, Maybee,
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  Speaker 8: one of the best defensive players to ever play the game, like,
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  Speaker 8: and they only talk to one trade partner.
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  Speaker 2: I heard something about the Eagles too, which they're always
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  Speaker 2: a team that's in there.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I think the problem with Miles Garrett is that he's
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  Speaker 2: worth so much and you're never gonna get what he's worth. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's only there's only gonna be so many
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  Speaker 2: teams that are confident enough to give up what it
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  Speaker 2: takes to get them. That takes a less Need or
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  Speaker 2: a Housie Roseman or you know, like those guys. I
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  Speaker 2: kind of know that, like, hey, if this goes wrong,
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  Speaker 2: it's not going to cost me my job. I think
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  Speaker 2: one of the biggest problems in the league is that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, twenty five out of the thirty two gms
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  Speaker 2: are operating scared and just trying to keep their job.
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  Speaker 2: It's you got your wind, you really take a swing.
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  Speaker 2: You can't really afford to think differently on anything. You
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  Speaker 2: need everything to kind of be consensus. So when your
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  Speaker 2: owners roll on social media. They haven't seen people calling
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  Speaker 2: you an idiot and their friends aren't, you know, asking
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  Speaker 2: if you're crazy.
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  Speaker 6: So it takes like true confidence to make a move
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  Speaker 6: like this.
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  Speaker 2: But I think Miles Garrett is probably worth twice as
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  Speaker 2: much as what they got, but like no one can
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  Speaker 2: pay it, you know, it's like having this unbelievable asset
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  Speaker 2: that Yeah, I mean, look, I think they did a
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  Speaker 2: good job. I think they got pretty fair compensation for it.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like you what do you give up for
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  Speaker 2: a guy? Like it's twenty sacks, Like the package is crazy,
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  Speaker 2: but it's it's also not enough, but like I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what point I would have been, Like it's enough.
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  Speaker 2: But the flip side of that is is the brown
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  Speaker 2: Like he made no sense for the Browns. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna win in the next four years, Like he's
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  Speaker 2: probably got four more years of being in a lass rusher.
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  Speaker 2: I think Verse makes a lot more sense for them.
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  Speaker 2: The Browns are unfortunately probably gonna be forever building.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you could chop them around, but like I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how many teams would actually be willing to
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  Speaker 2: get involved. So I think it came down to a
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  Speaker 2: couple teams that felt like they were a player away,
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  Speaker 2: and I think those are the only two teams that
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  Speaker 2: have the gms that can take that swing. And if
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't work, it's not gonna cost them everything. But
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  Speaker 2: like it's definitely gonna work. I mean, that front is insane,
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  Speaker 2: man like Byron Young twelve and a halfs Kobe Turtle.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy what they're gonna be able to do, and
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  Speaker 2: it's just wild out like being a Rams fan. Unfortunately
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  Speaker 2: like for them, there aren't enough of them, but like
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  Speaker 2: it's got to be the funnest thing in the world
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  Speaker 2: right now because they're always the team taking the big swing.
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  Speaker 6: They're always the.
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  Speaker 2: Team going all in. I don't know how many times
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  Speaker 2: we've heard that, you know, all their futures cooked, and
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  Speaker 2: then they just keep extending their future and extending their window.
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  Speaker 2: I do think when Stafford leaves, it's kind of like
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  Speaker 2: the same thing where it's like the whole thing blows
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  Speaker 2: up and like but who cares, Like, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: kind of go for it in the window.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, man, I like whether I boy.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, I wouldn't want to I wouldn't want to play
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  Speaker 2: them like that.
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  Speaker 4: That's what that's a crazy, crazy dec about. Hey, you
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  Speaker 4: know what, let's pour one out for the poor Cardinals.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, just another person in that division that's going
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  Speaker 4: to just continue to push them down. You had three
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  Speaker 4: teams win twelve games last year. I think Seattle in
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  Speaker 4: the all season was more worried about getting their guys back,
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  Speaker 4: and so that's what they did. The Rams continue to
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  Speaker 4: add if the forty nine ers can stay somewhat healthy.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's a team that's beat up in.
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  Speaker 4: One twelve games, The damn Cardinals have no chance in
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  Speaker 4: hell to win more than five.
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  Speaker 8: I think Jakoby might continue his holdout just because he
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  Speaker 8: didn't want to play.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, I don't want to play against those guys.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna hold out. Sure, I could be a starter.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care, though, I'm not doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Gary, do you think Kyler Murray's like taking a moment
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  Speaker 2: to reflect on like his safety and like he's just
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  Speaker 2: blessing God for leading them out of there?
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  Speaker 5: Yes? And then look in the North.
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  Speaker 4: Look, the North has got some dogs too, But my god,
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  Speaker 4: the NFC West, it's crazy, it is. And all right,
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  Speaker 4: so real quick, last thing before we get to the Saints.
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  Speaker 4: AJ Brown finally goes to the Patriots. Now, the thing is,
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  Speaker 4: we've talked about it for three months. Every team knew
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  Speaker 4: he was available and on the market, and they couldn't
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  Speaker 4: even get a first round pick for the next draft.
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  Speaker 4: You had to go two years down the road and
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  Speaker 4: then you got a fifth rounder next year. Are you
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  Speaker 4: surprised with AJ Brown's market and that he couldn't get
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  Speaker 4: at least a first round pick for the next.
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  Speaker 2: Draft, Yeah, because I mean, look the way they kind
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  Speaker 2: of value these picks too, is like a year removed,
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, first is basically valued like a second
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  Speaker 2: if it's a year later. Is how people kind of
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  Speaker 2: look at these things. I don't get that one man. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I like, obviously there's a ton of there's a ton
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  Speaker 2: of receivers in the league. The receiver talent's crazy, and
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  Speaker 2: I think it's only getting deeper and deeper and deeper,
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  Speaker 2: just with you know, the way people are trained at
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  Speaker 2: younger ages to seven on seven's all that stuff. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he feels like a franchise changed to me. That feels
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  Speaker 2: like stealing that. I don't understand how it went on
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  Speaker 2: for this song and the whole world knew where he
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  Speaker 2: was going for like damn there, it felt like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, nine months and no one else stepped in
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  Speaker 2: and said, hey, look, we'll give you a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more for this guy that's very clearly at top fifteen
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver.
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  Speaker 6: I don't understand it.
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  Speaker 2: Like I know there's problems and there's personality stuff, but
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  Speaker 2: that's the one where I'm like like what the hell,
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  Speaker 2: Like this couldn't have this couldn't have turned into a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more. I like it for the Pats, though, man, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, go for it, pay him whatever. You don't
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  Speaker 2: got to pay the quarterback. These are the type of
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  Speaker 2: moves that I want to see the Saints making. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if Tyler schuck Prus's theory this year is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just kind of go all in on it and as
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  Speaker 2: long as you got cap space, I don't really care
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  Speaker 2: about giving up the first You can fill that in
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  Speaker 2: other ways. You know, you got the money to spend.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the Sames need to be using
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  Speaker 2: this as a blueprint, and I feel like they kind
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  Speaker 2: of have, Like I feel like they kind of made
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  Speaker 2: parallel moves with the Patriots City year ago. Now you
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  Speaker 2: see if Shuck does it and then next season it
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  Speaker 2: should be all in for him. But yeah, I like
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  Speaker 2: it for him, man. I think that's a team that
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  Speaker 2: is making the moves they need to make to get
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  Speaker 2: back to.
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  Speaker 6: Where they were.
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  Speaker 8: All right, let's get down to some business. We're talking
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  Speaker 8: talking about Tyler Shuck. You're talking about kind of the
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  Speaker 8: Saints blueprint. Well, it all kind of starts right now
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  Speaker 8: this time of the year with some OTAs. Tell us
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  Speaker 8: what you've been seeing, give us a little update.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just kind of the passing camp right now out there.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Chris A. Lovey's getting a little bit of weight,
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  Speaker 2: like you see it. I don't think it's gonna change
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  Speaker 2: his game or anything, but like you know, on the
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  Speaker 2: durability sense, I think it's a good thing to see that.
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  Speaker 6: That was probably the thing that stood out the most.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of speed man, Like it's evident it was
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  Speaker 2: a slow team, like this has been a very slow
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  Speaker 2: team for you know, going on like years man, even
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  Speaker 2: the end of the end of the Breeze tenure, like
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  Speaker 2: they didn't have a lot of team speed. And that
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  Speaker 2: pops out right away, even the tight ends or you know,
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  Speaker 2: Noah offense, like he can move like that's a guy
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  Speaker 2: with some wheels.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Juwan Johnson moves well. Delt moves well. But it receiver
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  Speaker 2: like everybody's kind of flying right now. Still not seeing
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  Speaker 2: a lot from Jordan Tyson. They're posting pictures of OTAs.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't even have socks on. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: it's you know, I don't know what's going on with
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  Speaker 2: this ramping up, but uh, you know, maybe maybe it's today,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it's tomorrow. Like he did a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: like you know, rats hunt air or whatever and then
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  Speaker 2: disappeared from from the last one. But at least he
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  Speaker 2: was out there watching this time, so that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: But I you know, I think, you know, I don't,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know anything, but like just kind of it
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  Speaker 2: tingles a little bit where you know, it kind of
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  Speaker 2: gets those reporter senses going a little bit like huh,
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  Speaker 2: like we'll go the first rookie practice and now you
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  Speaker 2: start to ramp up in the second practice.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know. That doesn't it doesn't make a ton
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  Speaker 6: of sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: But I think, you know, I don't think it's a
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  Speaker 2: big deal whatever it is. I think I think he'll
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  Speaker 2: be fine. But I really like the idea of Sanker
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  Speaker 2: in the slot. That was like my big takeaway.
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  Speaker 6: From the lot.
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  Speaker 2: So T will be back out there tomorrow. But something
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  Speaker 2: about seeing him there, like he's good going forward, Like
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  Speaker 2: I think the stuff that made him good on special teams,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it could make him good as a pass thrusher,
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  Speaker 2: you know, being a being a gunner beating up block. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I like him going forward, he moves well. Something about
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  Speaker 2: that just made me feel better about the secondary as
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  Speaker 2: a whole.
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  Speaker 6: I like the idea of Blackman deep. I like him
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  Speaker 6: in there.
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  Speaker 2: I like not having to move Quincy Riley. And I
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  Speaker 2: think maybe just like the durability idea of of Sanker
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  Speaker 2: over blackmen makes it feel a little bit more anchored
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  Speaker 2: down just because you know, Blackman's had all these injuries
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  Speaker 2: and that might be an unfair assessment, but like Sanker
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  Speaker 2: just feels like a more durable piece that you can
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  Speaker 2: build around. We'll see how it goes from there, but
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  Speaker 2: you know that was that was. I like the idea
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  Speaker 2: of that, probably more than than black men are moving
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  Speaker 2: Quincy Raley inside.
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  Speaker 8: Can I ask a really important fault question here? Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: said Jordan ties any more sucks is that like around
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  Speaker 8: the facility or is that like, no sucks with this clear?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I you know, you just see a picture
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  Speaker 2: of a guy not wearing socks and it just kind
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  Speaker 2: of makes it look like he's not doing work, you
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  Speaker 2: know what.
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  Speaker 8: I Like, no socks in the cleat.
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  Speaker 2: He just had on. Yeah, he had on like the
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  Speaker 2: the I don't know if he's wearing cleats or not,
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  Speaker 2: but like I don't know, man, Like just something about
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  Speaker 2: not wearing socks, like was like he oh he didn't
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  Speaker 2: he didn't actually practice, say, but he might have, like,
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  Speaker 2: but the visual on it was just like, ah, like,
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  Speaker 2: this doesn't look this doesn't look like someone going after it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: No, with with cleats on, it's a move and it's
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  Speaker 8: kind of an indictment. That's my biggest takeaway so far
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  Speaker 8: from it.
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  Speaker 6: They're getting younger, man, the players are getting.
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  Speaker 5: Younger, and wikis thinking the same as.
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  Speaker 4: All right, so we're obviously like everybody's gonna ask you
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  Speaker 4: about Jordan Tyson when they bring up the rookie receivers,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to ask you about the other two guys
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  Speaker 4: that you drafted, Bryce Lance in the fourth round, berry
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  Speaker 4: On Brown in the same around. What have you seen
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  Speaker 4: from them in OTAs.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Man like Barry and Brown, like I think he runs
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  Speaker 2: better routes than I expected him to run. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he's one of them where it's like wait, who's that guy?
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, you learn the number quickly because you
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  Speaker 2: keep looking to see who it is, Like, yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: moves well, I'm impressed by him. I think I need
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  Speaker 2: to see Bryce Lanson like a more competitive period or
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  Speaker 2: something like that. He hasn't really popped yet, Like you
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  Speaker 2: see the speed. He looks like more of a strider
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  Speaker 2: than just kind of you know, maybe it's just a build,
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  Speaker 2: like he's long and lanky. I think I just need
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  Speaker 2: more information on him. Barry and Brown, I think is
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  Speaker 2: someone that that is built to stand out kind of
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  Speaker 2: in the uncompetitive seven on seven Ross on aer type stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And I think maybe Lance you got to see him
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  Speaker 2: in these other spots. So I'm still kind of gathering
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  Speaker 2: info on him. But yeah, I think I'm taking Barry
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  Speaker 2: and Brown more more seriously as a receiver.
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  Speaker 6: You know, when they drafted him those kind of like.
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  Speaker 2: All right, special teams and and maybe he'll give you, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a play a game or a couple of packages where
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  Speaker 2: you get him out there and he's streaking down the field.
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  Speaker 2: But I think maybe you can do a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more than that, which makes it exciting. That group as
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  Speaker 2: a whole is crazy, man, Like you take back, it
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  Speaker 2: used to be that, didn't you know, if they didn't
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  Speaker 2: have enough receivers, they they they were always trying to
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  Speaker 2: build that room.
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  Speaker 6: There wasn't enough guys.
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  Speaker 2: And now like Kevin Austin Junior to me, is a
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  Speaker 2: viable NFL receiver who's probably definitely not going to make
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: this team, and they're gonna be cutting real talent from
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: that position. We still haven't seen Trey Palmer. That's a
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: real NFL receiver with real production. Jaaln Polk like he
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: looks the part like that's an interesting guy too. So
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: that's going to be a fascinating kind of cutthroat competition,
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: I think all summer long agree.
• 14:35
  Speaker 8: All right, let's get to uh, let's get to kind
• 14:38
  Speaker 8: of the main storyline that's been talked about last coup days,
• 14:42
  Speaker 8: which is Alan Kamara tell us the latest on just
• 14:46
  Speaker 8: the contract, the planning, the kind of strange messaging about
• 14:51
  Speaker 8: kind of his role and or the unforeseen future of
• 14:54
  Speaker 8: what his role may be just kind of give us
• 14:56
  Speaker 8: your thoughts in any new updates you might have on
• 14:58
  Speaker 8: the Alba Kamara.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, so, like, I don't think they've really had serious
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: conversations about anything to this point. Look, I know I
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: can say from one side, I know with complete certainty
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: that that Alvin wants to come back, and I think
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: Alvin would would be more than open to discussing his
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: compensation package and you know what it should be going forward.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: I think I think his strong desire is to remain
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: here and to play.
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: Here and to finish his career here.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: And I you know, I think I think if his
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: circumstance changed, you know, I think he'd probably evaluate his
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: options and probably be you know, open ton. I think
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: he fully plans while playing football this year. But I think,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: you know, everything is I think he wants to be here.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think that there's any any posturing with any
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: of that, and I think he'd be willing to work
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: on it. You know, I don't think the Saints have
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: made a decision on what they want to do with this,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: which is, you know, it's weird. It's June's second now
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: that's kind of a benchmark. June first post post June
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: first you know, because they redid his contract before with
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: that fifty percent role, you know, all the complicated stuff.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: They couldn't designate him as a post June first cut
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: beforehand if.
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: They let him go.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Now, you know, the way his contracts set up, he
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: has a three million dollars guaranteed. It would actually I
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: had thought they would have a three hundred and seventy
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: six thousand dollars cap savings, but it would actually go
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: up the way his book this year, like by like
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: a million bucks like that that's marginal, but they would
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: save eight point five million dollars against the next year's cap.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: So I think that's that's where the the you know,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: the thought process comes into.
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: Play, like what would they do to you know, is
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: he worth it?
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Is he worth it a year from now? That's why
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: you try to get the pay cut. You negotiate that down,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: lower that eight point five million, and see what it is.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: But I don't think they they've they've had a serious
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: conversation about anything to this point, which is, you know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: it's wild to me, it's just a crazy way to
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: see how this has played out.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: Look, I think I think Alvin's going to show up
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: for mini camp.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: He's working out in Miami right now the way he
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: always does during they're in OTA's.
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: They'll be here for many camp. He'll be here for
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: training camp.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I would be shocked if he isn't because his contracts
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: right now is extremely favorable to him. I don't think
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: he's trying to hold out and get more for Like,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I think the best outcome for Alvin is that nobody
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: does anything with this contract and he makes eleven point
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: five million dollars and you know, he he fills his
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: role is you know, the you know, I think he's
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: kind of the place not where he's the sidekick to
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: h Hen So I think he's very willing to embrace that.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Alvin wants to be here. I
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: think he badly wants to be here, and I think
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: he wants to figure it out. But you know, it's
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: just been a very weird stalled pattern, which you know,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: kind of make sure you ears perk up this late
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: into the process, Like do you guys actually like want
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: him on the team. Like, I think that's the question
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: right now that needs to be answered. But there's really
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: no deadline on this. They could just let it play
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: out until right before that first week of the season,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: when you know everything best for veteran players, wait to
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: see if there's an injury in training camp, see if
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: a trademarket emerges anywhere, and go from there.
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: But extremely strange situation.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: I've never seen like a situation with the franchise legend
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: kind of play out with this one, with the uncertainty
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: and the silence and everything. Very very shrewd way to
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: go about handling this situation.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Hey, last one and Nick, we always appreciate the time.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Going to kind of put you on the spot a
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: little bit here September thirteenth, the team's about to take
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: the field in Detroit.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: Is Alvin Kamara running out of the tunnel.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say they figure it out and he'll probably
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: end up getting cut later today because I just said that.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, like I just think I think.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: The way I look at it, Look, look, I'm not
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: evaluating them as running back one, right, I mean like,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: if you look at the fit though, is the sidekick
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: to HM if he's willing to figure out something with
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: his contract, I think it makes the most sense to
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: have him here, Like no one's expecting him to run
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: for nine hundred and fifty yards like he did two
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: years ago. But I think if you have him on
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: the team, he's running back to you're doing all this
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: stuff with the tight ends you can get into like
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: a twenty two personnel well, and you have a decision
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: to make, and if you keep the extra linebacker out there,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: you just throw Alvin in the slot. You get him
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: on that matchup and he's going to smoke a linebacker
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: coming out of the slot. And if you know they
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: go smaller, you just you know, you run your inside
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: zone with eight chan and you have all your blockers
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: out there, and that's another way to do it. But
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I think he's a guy that can still dictate matchups.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: You have to do that, and he'll dictate matchups in
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: a way that Devin Neil or Rodrick Estimate won't because
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: of sure who he is and what he's.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Been able to do.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: And I think if that's the vision of your offense,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: like there's extreme value in that. Like last year, Alvin
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: nine percent of his snaps for out at receiver positions.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: His rookie year it was thirty nine percent. Just get
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: back to like that twenty seventeen tight blueprint use him
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: as more as that move around chess piece. Obviously, we
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: know he's not the same player he was them, but
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I think he gets your defensive coordinator decisions to make
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: when he walks into the huddle depending on who else
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: is out there with him, and I think there's value
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: in that. And I think he can still do all
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: that stuff like get him.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: The ball in space.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: People are still going to bounce off, he's still going
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: to break tackles, he's still going to make plays. And
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I think if the goal is to be a good team, like,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I think there's a value here somewhere where you can
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: negotiate that number down and figure out something that works
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: so he can finish his career and everything plays out.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: But look, I'm saying that from that perspective, but if
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I look at it from like the business side of
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: this right now, everything on the business side says this
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: thing's heading to a cliff, and you know, not a
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: lot of it makes sense unless unless you think, hey,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: look like they're ready to move on, and maybe they're
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: trying to find a way to move on.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: So I think it's very much up in the air.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to bet on football winning this one
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: all right there.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: He is our guy, Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Nobody covers the Saints like our guy Nick. All the
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: latest and greatest. We certainly appreciate the time, brother. We'll
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: catch up again next week.
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, take it easy, keep those keep those socks on, guys.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, don't worry about that, buddy.
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: We're not crazy.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: We are not.
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: We are not there.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: We I don't know what the youth are doing these days.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: But that's great.
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: Got the picture.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: I saw it, like it segment. I didn't like it
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: when I saw it.
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: Oh no, there are either no shows or he's just
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: straight up not worrying any.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Ain't no shows it there had never been theirs. I
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: mean you, no socks on then.
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: Feet, you can't wear really no shows with the cleats.
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: I guess you could. It's kind of unheard of though. Yeah,
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: that's I don't agree.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I feel good about our first
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: round pick. All right, we got to take a break.
• 21:32
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  Speaker 8: I gotta say, like, wearing socks and cleats is almost
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• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flinn. Tuesday
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Show presented by Community Steel.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: I like that, hey, hey, hey, hey, come on, what
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: we just did, But we need to make that the
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: open of the show. Switch it up after the house.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: You start us off tomorrow.
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: You got oh kid, you got an email?
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: I hit the wrong button?
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: Have you got mail?
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: Did we ever come up with the equivalent of you've
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: got mail?
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: To remember the I gotta text?
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: Is that what we's that?
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: I say?
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah? So what I'm saying because you know the movie
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: like you've got mail? Email?
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: Like you know, you remember what it said in the
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: movie A trip.
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: Here, y'a are supposed to cheer after I say we
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: didn't know?
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: It is a reference.
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: I haven't started member right, let's practice.
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: Okay, I don't have one, but I'll do it anyway.
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: I gotta tell yes, that's exactly how you are supposed
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: to respond.
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: You remember the movie euro Trip? Yes? Do you remember
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: what his said when he got mail? Oh?
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: My gosh, I know, And I just watched this not
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: long ago.
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: He said, still the greatest came.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: Had no idea.
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: It's like he's just obscenely screaming this song directly to
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: Scotty at Scotty's party. Then you look and you're like
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: the guy with stud in his chin happens to be
• 24:49
  Speaker 9: Matt Damon.
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: It's just and I got a feeling that's Scotty. Did
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: know I don't know.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: He thought she was just praising the Lord.
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: Look, do you know what we're talking about? Do you
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: know what Scotty didn't know? You don't? How old are you?
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: Do you?
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: I mean that you should know what? You should know
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: what Scotty didn't know. We're gonna give you a little
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: homework if you choose to accept it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: Should you choose to accept that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: Which you must, you need to go home and watch it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: Euro Trip, euro Trip? What a good movie? Yeah? His
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: his friend Michael from Europe.
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: Michael, No, it's Mika.
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: Oh Micah.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh that's so good. I think Luke's actually gonna
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: watch it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: No, no, yep, I do. Oh yeah, Luke likes laugh.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: He likes laugh.
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: I like laugh, live laugh, Luke, I'll be lobby seted not.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: I still don't get the whole cow situation that we
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: were talking.
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: It's weird.
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's strange. We don't have to understand it though. True.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: What are they called.
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: Again, Scottish Highland or highland?
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: Okay? Sure? What's the point do you think of the
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: bangs on the cow? Like most animals their features, there's
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: a reason it's there, Like I don't is there a
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: lot of dust in Scotland had to like shield protect
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: their eyes from this.
• 26:44
  Speaker 9: It's gotta be for a purpose, you would think, right, The.
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: Long hair in that particular place of their body usually
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: like a random feature on an animal. It's there for
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: some sort of.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Some sort good Lord puts everything there for.
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: It's just a fashion.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: Statement to protect their eyes from the harsh Scottish weather
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: and pesky summer insects. The long hair blocks heavy rain,
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: wind and snow from directly irritating their eyes and it
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: prevents insects from landing on their eyes.
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: I gotta tell you. Sometimes we watch these animal documentaries
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: and like the flies. To me, as an animal, there's
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: a lot of things as an animal I wouldn't appreciate,
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: like getting eaten stuff like that.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that suck.
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: But the animals or the flies and the bugs they
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: got to deal with sometimes it's tough. Man. It just
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: it gives me like I'm like claustrophobic watching I feeling
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: bad for these animals with all these flies on them. Yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: it's tough, tough. Look for him. I'm glad I'm a
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: human and have thumbs.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: I mean, the couch is trying to be a little
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: emo out there. In the wild, you.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Know, protecting his eyeballs, singing, Hey there, Delilah.
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: When God made that, you think you had an idea
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: that it would be pretty popular. Hobby hobby lobby Probably not.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Hobby lobby does have kind of Christian ties.
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: Maybe he did.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It's a good store, great store. Yeah,
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: for a store of that size to survive and survive. Yeah,
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Actually a good point.
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: All those things that's like not a lot can home
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: good home good, like hobby lobby, and like Loa's on depot,
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: Like what else can survive with that square footage and.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: Love's on depot?
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: You get it because it's like you you can't Amazon
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: a washer and a dryer, you know, yeah, I can't
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: just get an Amazon refrigerator right right right, Like that
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: one makes more sense.
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: But for hobby lobby, hobby lobby, I mean you you
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: could just get some crafts.
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: I couldn't tell you the last time I stepped foot
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: in a hobby lobby.
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: I went last year.
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: Uh, probably play around round Christmas of like over a
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: year ago, so Christmas before.
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: Last, Like the kids will have projects that pop up.
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: They have to do school projects and stuff.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: Framed yeah, and that's why I think we were picking
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: up something. She's getting florals. That's what we were doing
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: there last week, and of course florals.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Of course, Harlowe and Memphis came up to the register
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: with prizes. That's what hobby lobby does. They're smart. They
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: got the prizes right there. Let me check out.
• 29:19
  Speaker 9: You should get the circus peanuts in the used to
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: get those.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: I've ever met that.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Like the.
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: First Daniel Well bash him in the chat said, would
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: would Heifer Flynn win a blue ribbon for a shnkles?
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: Probably?
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: Whatever the situation you got going.
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: On over there, buddy, are you kidding? I did not
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: fall within the legal limit of a cankle.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: That's true, you didn't.
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: That's fair.
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: How do we feel about reseating tournaments?
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: Dumb?
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: I think it's stupid, dumb, idiotic.
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: I need to hear the argument for it.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: The bracket is the bracket is the bracket.
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: The argument for it is that the two teams, like
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: for example, Troy and Little Rock play each other, which
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: Georgia fans feel like that's an easy draw for either
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: of the two because they're both like the lower seeded teams.
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: That made it out that regional and so Georgia because
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: of the seeding, Like, so they're the lower seeded teams
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: that made it out of the regional and then so
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: Georgia faces Mississippi State. So they feel like they that's
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: unfair to them because they get a higher seeded team
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: than the so like basically they want to punish the
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: lower seed for beating the higher seeds and getting out
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: the regional bracket.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: Play in every sport that we play.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Baseball tournament, right, and we're the you know, the the
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: higher seed, but the seed that played the two seeds.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I say, the eight seed plays the two seed and
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: the eight seed wins, Like we don't get to say hey,
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  Speaker 4: like actually, like we want it. We want a different
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  Speaker 4: situation because like this this seed upset this seed, and
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  Speaker 4: so we feel like we shouldn't have to play the
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  Speaker 4: three seed. We want to play that eight seed. That
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  Speaker 4: one actually against that two seed. So it's not gonna
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  Speaker 4: be one, three, two four since the eight seed one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like actually we're the one seeds, so we want the
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  Speaker 4: eight seed and not No, it's not how it works.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, Like what if what if tu Lane would have
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  Speaker 9: we should reseed it once it gets to the sweet sixteen.
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  Speaker 9: Why you're punishing the small school for running through a
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  Speaker 9: regional as a four seed. Little Rock swept that regional,
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, they look that and like the higher Yeah, the
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  Speaker 7: higher seeded team had two opportunities to win and get
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  Speaker 7: out of there.
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  Speaker 9: So and how about Georgia get the hard game. If
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  Speaker 9: they think it's so easy, get the hard game. Mississippi
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  Speaker 9: State out of the way early, Omaha, is that much
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  Speaker 4: Look, and if you can't beat Mississippi State, you don't
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  Speaker 4: deserve to go to the cars.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, you're not gonna you're not gonna win it anyways.
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  Speaker 7: Six seven teams did not make it out their own regional.
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  Speaker 8: Seven. Wow, that's a big number. Oh my god, did
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  Speaker 8: y'all see we got to pull this clip up? Okay,
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  Speaker 8: we we tease the clipper about we did. Wait, so
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  Speaker 8: that's what we had to pull up also watching last
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  Speaker 8: night what I outside of football and LSU doing cool
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  Speaker 8: a sports scene in college athletics that was as cool
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  Speaker 8: as West Virginia post game, all singing together and like
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  Speaker 8: belting it and the singing the entire thing too. I
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  Speaker 7: It was awesome. That chills really like j.
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  Speaker 9: And you know what's awesome about that, Matt, They've gotten
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  Speaker 8: Also winning it's awesome, a tight game like that, winning
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  Speaker 3: Or we played around in Louisiana and we get to
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  Speaker 3: No, Nick Saban went in there and got some players,
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  Speaker 5: It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 4: One of the better head coaches in college football history.
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  Speaker 5: You like, I'm not doing it anymore. Nope, I'm doing it.
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  Speaker 8: Exactly. He said, I'm not going to go beat my
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  Speaker 5: And there should be.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and he should. What do you think he was
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  Speaker 8: talking about at the end there, which part uh when
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  Speaker 8: a different level game that he wasn't willing to play.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he was willing to play any game, so I
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  Speaker 5: Let's not get that twisted. You like to play, I'd
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  Speaker 5: like to play what.
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  Speaker 8: Crown play around? I don't know, play outside?
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  Speaker 5: All right, you should play, I know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 8: He liked jack some Little Little Dog bars too.
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  Speaker 4: That was actually in Columbus, Columbus because his team actually
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  Speaker 8: Oh, that's right.
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  Speaker 8: Parties and we were just talking about it the break well.
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  Speaker 8: First of all, really cool to hear perspective of a yeah,
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  Speaker 8: just like you said, of a coach on how tough
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  Speaker 8: it is and how how we feel at least that
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  Speaker 8: with coach O coming on, it's going to only going
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  Speaker 8: to help improve the high school recruiting for LSU football.
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  Speaker 8: Not that it was like bad, it was awesome, but
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  Speaker 8: now it's just going to be like you're you're really
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  Speaker 8: solidifying the state of Louisiana. And sure you can't be
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  Speaker 8: guaranteed to get any player that comes out of Louisiana.
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  Speaker 8: I get it, but it just helps build that wall
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  Speaker 8: around Louisiana from a recruiting standpoint and making it tougher
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  Speaker 8: and tougher for other schools to come in. And you
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  Speaker 8: just heard it from one of the best college coaches
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  Speaker 8: to coach. You heard how tough it was. He just
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  Speaker 8: stopped doing it.
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  Speaker 5: He's like, I'm not doing that anything.
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  Speaker 8: We're not gonna waste our time, like we feel like
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  Speaker 8: we're gonna get up it and they just don't come.
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  Speaker 5: That's pretty actually, pretty cool to hear.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it is really.
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  Speaker 4: Because we know what kind of talent this state has,
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  Speaker 4: Gators at the time, which was a national power. They
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  Speaker 4: won two national championships in three years saying we're not
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  Speaker 4: doing it. We're not going in there anymore. We know
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  Speaker 8: Piece it together from like a handful of other states
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  Speaker 4: And if it ever gets away from that, because it
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  Speaker 5: It's been like that before.
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  Speaker 4: somewhere else and like remember, well maybe some of y'all
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  Speaker 4: don't be cause it was a long time ago. But
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  Speaker 4: like when Kevin Falked decided to go to LSU, how
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  Speaker 5: And the big recruit ever.
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  Speaker 4: I think so, I think, I think He's the biggest,
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  Speaker 8: M hmm.
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  Speaker 4: But now, because if you do it right, this is
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  Speaker 8: Shout out to Kevin, you're the man.
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