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Jags Drive Time: Monday, December 3 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jeff Warris, did you don't know what Jack Warris? Did
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Speaker 1: to John says it actually Jack Warris drive Time starts
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Speaker 1: right now. Hits the damn shutout. That's unbelievable, that's awesome.
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Speaker 1: Tell the job. Hey, you got stuck in there, hung
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Speaker 1: in there. You covered each other, and we needed to
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Speaker 1: get covered in all three phases of the game. And
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Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. And to be able to
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Speaker 1: come together at the team after all and everything is
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Speaker 1: a credit to the guys in the locker room. Hey,
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Speaker 1: we've worked long and hard for this. Enjoy congratulations, enjoyed
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Speaker 1: the moment, everything we just went through today. At the
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Speaker 1: end of the day, we took it up and let's
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Speaker 1: worried about Tennessee John's on three. Yeah, it was almost
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Speaker 1: as if they had forgotten what to do in the
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Speaker 1: victorious locker room. I know what to do. You've been
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Speaker 1: waiting to pull that one out for a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to Jags Drive Time, brought to you
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Speaker 1: by our friends at Jed Home Loans. Yeah, I'm doing here.
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Speaker 1: Celebrate a win. Then see you bring that in here today.
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Speaker 1: If you need to bar this later. It's right here, bro,
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Speaker 1: not after Yeah, I think I'll leave that one alone. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I might need a little bit here and there. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: we we should have an excellent show for you here
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Speaker 1: today because for the first time in two months, we're
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Speaker 1: talking about a Jaguars win. Um, let's start with the
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Speaker 1: Jags Twitter pool on Wait, I get this right before
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Speaker 1: the season's done? Is right? Drive time poll on Twitter,
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Speaker 1: brought to you by Expedity. Who's the Expinity Player of
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Speaker 1: the game? Ronnie Harrison came up with the biggest play
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Speaker 1: in the game on fourth down with his sack of
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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck Unique and Gokoi made the play that saved
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Speaker 1: the touchdown. Uh, Josh Lambo scored the only points. Maybe
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Speaker 1: there's someone else that you've got in mind. You can
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Speaker 1: vote on Twitter who's the Exfinity player of the game? Um,
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Speaker 1: where do you even start with this one? Here's the
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Speaker 1: thing that it's just so astounding. Um. I didn't think
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars were gonna win the ball game yesterday. But
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Speaker 1: not not because they didn't think that they would try hard,
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Speaker 1: or have a good plan or any of that stuff.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think the offense would be productive and it
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Speaker 1: wasn't okay. But I didn't comprehend. I didn't even fantasize
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Speaker 1: that the defense would shut out Andrew Luck, which had
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Speaker 1: up to that point never happened in his NFL career. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you didn't expect to shut out and uh, I've got
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Speaker 1: a lot of emails about where has the defense been. Well,
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Speaker 1: it's been good all year. You know, the myth that
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's been a problem, the myth that it's
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Speaker 1: hasn't played up to its potential. It's played very well.
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Speaker 1: And I think if the offense had played where it
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Speaker 1: was last year, it would be very comfortable to last
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Speaker 1: year that said, this was superhuman and they got some breaks.
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Speaker 1: They the Colts probably should have kicked a couple of
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Speaker 1: field goals. So the shutout was really some circumstance. It's
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Speaker 1: in there, but the overall performance of the defense to
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Speaker 1: keep that offense no man, how many breaks they got
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Speaker 1: with Frank Reich's decision making, the fact is Andrew Luck
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Speaker 1: Had's head then three touchdown passes the game freight straight games.
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Speaker 1: Blame you know, if you want to blame uh, Frank
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Speaker 1: Reich for that, fine, except that here was a guy
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Speaker 1: who thrown at least one touchdown, which is all it
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Speaker 1: would have taken yesterday in just a couple of times.
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Speaker 1: You know, argument could be made that Reich should have
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Speaker 1: kicked it at the end of the game, get it.
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Speaker 1: There were a few goals to be taken. But to
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Speaker 1: hold that team without a touchdown after the way they played,
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Speaker 1: and to get the pressure they got on Luck with
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Speaker 1: an offensive line that he'd given up no sacks or
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Speaker 1: on one sack and what six games, it was a
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Speaker 1: phenomenal effort. Uh. The defense hasn't been bad, but yesterday
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Speaker 1: was absolutely the best I've seen since I've been back. Well.
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Speaker 1: And look, I understand why Reich went for it down there.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he had two fifteen yard penalties that went
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Speaker 1: his way on that drive and gave him first in
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Speaker 1: goal with the best red zone offense and football. Plus
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Speaker 1: he had to know one touchdown and I win right right,
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Speaker 1: one touchdowns all the times. Yeah, I think at that
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Speaker 1: point on fourth, yeah, I guess the offense take the
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Speaker 1: cot and didn't get off their goal line, right. I
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Speaker 1: think you take on a point in that situation just because, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, the Jaguars an't gonna leave the ball so
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Speaker 1: if you kick to them, you're going to get the
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Speaker 1: ball back within not twenty yards a field goal range.
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Speaker 1: He also figured that's not gonna be your last opportunity
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Speaker 1: to score, not with an offense that have been averaging
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Speaker 1: created four point six over the last five games. So
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Speaker 1: all right, let's hop into big things. All right. Big
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Speaker 1: thing one is that winning feeling. The streak is over
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Speaker 1: and Kalias campbell smile postgame says it all. It feels
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Speaker 1: good to finally get in the win column. It's been
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Speaker 1: way too long, you know, And honestly, you know, I
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Speaker 1: just want to stay in this moment, you know, and
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Speaker 1: and enjoy it and hopefully we can carry that over
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Speaker 1: another way and come Thursday. You know, it says something
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Speaker 1: that we're talking about a win this morning, John uh
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Speaker 1: in a week in which you lose your offensive coordinators fired,
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Speaker 1: your quarterback is benched, your star running back, your best
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Speaker 1: offensive player is suspended, and you lose your best offensive
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Speaker 1: lineman Andrew Norwell, at least your highest paid offensive lineman,
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Speaker 1: and a guy that you counted on. That's not three strikes,
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Speaker 1: that's four strikes in a week, and that they could
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Speaker 1: come out and beat a colts team that had won
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Speaker 1: five in a row and looked like they were streaking
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Speaker 1: towards the playoffs. Um, that's such just a winning feeling
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Speaker 1: this morning. These guys they accomplished something yesterday. It was interesting.
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Speaker 1: And I mentioned this on our when we spoke after
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Speaker 1: the game, rapid recap, Good jobs, get a sponsor for that?
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Speaker 1: Um it? Uh dream Founder songs. When I was talking
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Speaker 1: to different players in the locker room, Unique and got
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Speaker 1: Wain a j Boy in particular, I was struck by
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Speaker 1: they kept going back to what they wanted to accomplish
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Speaker 1: yesterday and what they still want to accomplish with this season.
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Speaker 1: And I even stopped in Goquay on the way out
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Speaker 1: of the locker room and I said, is it telling
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Speaker 1: that you guys are still talking about accomplishing because fans
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Speaker 1: on the outside will look at this and say, all,
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Speaker 1: you're playing for his draft position. It's over and you
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Speaker 1: expected to see a fragmented team and uh it, he said,
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Speaker 1: fans can think they want to think on the on
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Speaker 1: that front, but here's what we're doing. I thought that
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Speaker 1: showed yesterday. I expected. I didn't expect them to quit
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Speaker 1: because I just don't believe the typical NFL teams quit,
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Speaker 1: but I expected. Uh, there are times you have let downs.
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Speaker 1: There are times where once the playoffs are out of
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Speaker 1: the equation, all the energy you had pregame goes away
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Speaker 1: with a bad break. They had a lot of bad
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Speaker 1: breaks yesterday, and they still managed to overcome that. They
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Speaker 1: played together, they played his one. So um in that circumstance,
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Speaker 1: all the stuff you mentioned, plus getting knocked out of
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Speaker 1: the playoffs the week before, and it's not over technically,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, right, Uh, it's distant. All
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Speaker 1: of that plus the fact that I just mentioned to
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Speaker 1: have that was you know, again, as impressive a uh
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Speaker 1: group effort as any I've ever seen. And Jalen Ramsey, Um,
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Speaker 1: all right, where you're going again? You're out of the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: I had heard last week there's a good chance he
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Speaker 1: wouldn't play. Um, so he was clearly as close as
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Speaker 1: he's been, maybe since Tennessee last year to not playing
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Speaker 1: and comes out and not only plays, but it plays
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Speaker 1: at an extremely high level. Two pass breakups to play
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Speaker 1: the game at the end of the game. Um, you
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Speaker 1: might there's times where I think people have questioned how
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Speaker 1: much he cares about it, how much he cares about
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Speaker 1: the team, etcetera, etcetera. I think yesterday proved a lot
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Speaker 1: on that front. A couple of thoughts. First of all,
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Speaker 1: when you are three and eight and have lost seven
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Speaker 1: in a row and everything that happened last week happens,
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Speaker 1: guys tend to start thinking about themselves, right whether they
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Speaker 1: should play with their injury. You know, guys started going
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Speaker 1: We saw Rachine Mathis do this at the end of
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Speaker 1: two thousand and six when the season was lost, going
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Speaker 1: for picks in Kansas City in a ballgame because he
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Speaker 1: needed too for a big bonus, and it played out
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Speaker 1: very poorly that day. So even the best players, the
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Speaker 1: highest character players, tend to tend to think about themselves.
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Speaker 1: I have been beating the table the last couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks about who and how Jalen has grown, who has become,
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Speaker 1: how he's grown since that incredibly bad performance in Indianapolis.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, just to be completely transparent on this,
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Speaker 1: Jalen wasn't just bad on the field. He was bad
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Speaker 1: on the sidelines that day. He was sitting over by himself.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't connected to what was going on, and I
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Speaker 1: thought it looked like he didn't want to be there. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: this thing could go downhill. Well, he stood afterwards and
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Speaker 1: talked and in the locker room, talked that week, and
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Speaker 1: in the postgame talk that week, and since then he
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Speaker 1: has grown in my estimation as a person and is
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Speaker 1: a player. Here's the thing he said yesterday that I
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Speaker 1: have never heard him say character. He said it showed
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Speaker 1: our character when he said that, I went ding ding
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Speaker 1: ding ding ding. All of a sudden, he is growing
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Speaker 1: from the best player to a guy who understands that
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Speaker 1: they need him to be a significant leader in that
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Speaker 1: locker room too. And he's not going to be Calais right.
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Speaker 1: But when he starts talking about character, he's sending the
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Speaker 1: signal to everyone else, I'm watching your character. I'm watching
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Speaker 1: my own character. Let's make sure so all that you
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Speaker 1: talked about about guys staying together, that's character. And I
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Speaker 1: think Jalen is showing his right now and it's a
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Speaker 1: huge improvement over that in Theanopolis game. And the play
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Speaker 1: he made at the end of the game. Um, that's
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Speaker 1: not a stat play, that's not a selfish me play.
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Speaker 1: That's a smart play knowing that I've got to do
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Speaker 1: something to keep him in bounds. Uh. If it was
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Speaker 1: not caring about this. You just push him out of
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Speaker 1: bounds and move on. It was, by the way, the
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Speaker 1: correct call. He stopped his forward moment him enough where
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Speaker 1: the play technically had and I'm talking about the play
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Speaker 1: on the tight end the end of the game, and uh,
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Speaker 1: it was the correct call. I heard some people wonder
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Speaker 1: it because the receiver went out of bounds if it
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Speaker 1: should have been he stopped the Ford momentum, which it
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Speaker 1: was an otherworldly play athletically and awareness wise. Um, I
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Speaker 1: shouldn't even say. I was gonna say a lot of
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Speaker 1: people have the athletic a buddy where they don't, but
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Speaker 1: very few players have the awareness in that situation to
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Speaker 1: know that you've got to stop the fordmamentum to keep
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Speaker 1: him in back. You know exactly what to do. Another
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Speaker 1: guy that stood up to meet character wiseed with Miles
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Speaker 1: Jack the past few weeks in the locker room. He
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Speaker 1: hasn't really wanted to talk after the game. Today he
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Speaker 1: was like, come on, let's talk. And he said that
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Speaker 1: this defense has played finally a complete game played a
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Speaker 1: complete game. Man. That's that's that's that was what what
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Speaker 1: was so cool And just to see the deepeness fine, around,
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Speaker 1: Jayalen out there making players get out there, Ronnie the
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Speaker 1: d line getting sex. I mean we we was back
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Speaker 1: looking like sex with Villa, So that was that was good.
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Speaker 1: And he made this play where he got Ebron up
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Speaker 1: into the air and Telvin Smith was able to knock
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Speaker 1: the ball free and then heads up he went and
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Speaker 1: found the football that was on fourth down. It was
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Speaker 1: a huge moment in the bowl game. May have made
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Speaker 1: a better play at the end of the game. Frankly,
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Speaker 1: Brian Um two plays before the jail and play, I
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Speaker 1: believe it was Ebron had the ball on the sidelines
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Speaker 1: and was heading to get out of bound, and I
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Speaker 1: think there's probably twenty five is right seconds left Um
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Speaker 1: athletically to chase him down to keep bebrin and bounds there. Uh. Again,
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Speaker 1: it just showed you the effort and in the awareness
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Speaker 1: situation and the athletic ability. I thought those two plays
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Speaker 1: by Ramsey and Jack at the end of the game
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Speaker 1: are those hidden plays that it saved what at least
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Speaker 1: seconds and what can Luck do without any times? Her
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Speaker 1: big thing too has to be dynamite on defense. The
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Speaker 1: first time Andrew Luck has been shut out in his career,
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Speaker 1: longest active streak in the NFL thirty four straight games
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Speaker 1: with a passing touch down. The Jack snap that streak.
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Speaker 1: Marcel Darius comments on the defense being back him wanting
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Speaker 1: to play on this defense. This feels like the defense
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Speaker 1: that I became a part of the whole time I've
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Speaker 1: been here. I feel like we've played ass off and
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Speaker 1: we tried and we tried hard as we can, so
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Speaker 1: we can't can't ask for none more. So yesterday we
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Speaker 1: talked about Miles Jack and Jalen Ramsey, a j Boyer.
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Speaker 1: It was as if he was in the colts meeting
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Speaker 1: room right. I mean, he was running the routes. He
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Speaker 1: had a couple of huge tackles. When Ronnie Harrison, who
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Speaker 1: got his first start, made the sack on fourth down.
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Speaker 1: If he hadn't gotten him, Marcel Darius would have because
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Speaker 1: he picked the center up and rolled him on his
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Speaker 1: way back. Um, you saw what Unique and Gonquay and
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Speaker 1: Clay's Campbell got done. But when the protections rolled to them,
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Speaker 1: Dwan Smoot and Tavin Bryan were all over the field.
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Speaker 1: What you saw was the best defensive performance maybe we've
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Speaker 1: ever seen from this defense going back to last year.
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Speaker 1: But it was a a a spread out performance that
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Speaker 1: everyone contributed. Well, you've seen them all and you saw
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Speaker 1: better defenses in the mid two thousand's then, and I
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Speaker 1: probably we saw in the nearly night best defense performance
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Speaker 1: and franchise history. I think, yeah, I think if it's
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Speaker 1: not Steelers, it's not. Those are the two that stand
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Speaker 1: out the most. Um. If it's not the best defensive performance,
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Speaker 1: we could argue about it because what they did. Andrew
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Speaker 1: Luck yesterday admitted you thought at the end of the
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Speaker 1: ball game that all Luck needed was a touchdown that
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Speaker 1: because the Jaguars hadn't got absolutely everyone, you saw that
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Speaker 1: coming and then the defense came through with that at
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Speaker 1: the end of the ball game. Yeah, I want to
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Speaker 1: say it's strong. Um. I really like what they did
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Speaker 1: two weeks ago against Pittsburgh. They couldn't hold off for
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Speaker 1: Rothersburger forever, and the offense didn't contribute anything that day either. Um.
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Speaker 1: But if you go back and look at the way
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Speaker 1: that this defense is played over the last month, there
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Speaker 1: are signs that this was from it. But this is
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Speaker 1: stellar beyond words, here's the case for it. I think
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Speaker 1: in this era to do this different era and uh
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Speaker 1: nine nothing was what year was at two thousand and
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Speaker 1: six against the Steelers out here and I say, I
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Speaker 1: remember watching that game and it was a phenomenal performance.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think that's Steeler's offense. Uh. I could
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Speaker 1: be wrong, because with a big Ben, they've had some
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Speaker 1: really good offense. He was good, they were. It was
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Speaker 1: a good offense. Uh. The Ravens game twelve seven was
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eleven, and that gets lost a
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Speaker 1: little bit because it was a five and eleven season.
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Speaker 1: It was a disappointment, but nobody expected to win that game.
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Speaker 1: But again, that was a Ray Rice driven offense. I
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Speaker 1: don't know that it was the offense and the quarterback
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Speaker 1: that she did. Uh. Yesterday, this was an offense. It
14:48
Speaker 1: was scoring thirty three points a game. Coming in and
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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck was being talked about and probably still should
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Speaker 1: be talked about as possible m VP candidate, and to
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Speaker 1: shut it down and hold them scoreless with all the
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Speaker 1: circumstances that we've talked about, Um, it shouldn't get lost
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Speaker 1: to history. How it does. Ronnie Harrison, Um, you know
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Speaker 1: he he had the bone headed play early where on
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Speaker 1: third down in five and I wrote about this in
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Speaker 1: Quick Thoughts. The lack of situational awareness on the part
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Speaker 1: of the Shawn Gibson to get up after third and
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Speaker 1: five and get in Ebron's face. Talvin Smith goes over
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Speaker 1: and pulls him away, and then Ronnie jumps in following.
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Speaker 1: You know, it was bad situation awareness because you just
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Speaker 1: got Luck off the field and now you're giving the
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Speaker 1: ball back to him and if they score a touchdown,
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Speaker 1: I just felt there, Yeah, the game is right. They
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Speaker 1: gotta play smarter than that. The way he rebounded and
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Speaker 1: played the rest of the game, and obviously the sack
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Speaker 1: stands out. Um boy, I guess it's because you were
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Speaker 1: paying church and he had been a contributor for a
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Speaker 1: long time that you stayed with him. But this guy
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Speaker 1: in the starting lineup, and we may talk about his
15:55
Speaker 1: move into the starting lineup in this game for years
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Speaker 1: to come, because I think and I think those guys
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Speaker 1: think he is going to be a key contributor to
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Speaker 1: this defense for the long term. But you've been here
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Speaker 1: since earlier in the season that this is the guy
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Speaker 1: out of the draft class who was showing the most.
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Speaker 1: I think the good news for that is it looks
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Speaker 1: like Tavian Bryant's coming on and even even more than
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Speaker 1: just getting more plays, etcetera, etcetera. Uh, he looks like
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Speaker 1: he's starting to get it. But Ronnie Harrison um the
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Speaker 1: athleticism he shows it's really important. We've talked about the
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Speaker 1: draft class needing to be good next year, and he
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Speaker 1: is definitely a guy as some players start to leave,
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Speaker 1: he's starting to look like he could be a core
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Speaker 1: guy and a star player, and they're gonna need that.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Go ahead, okay. You had mentioned earlier in
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Speaker 1: the game to Shaun Gibson, but it was his best
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Speaker 1: game in about a month too. He played really well
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Speaker 1: that one. He does that, though, he has to those
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Speaker 1: moments where you're like, whoa, whoa, Hold on, you're a veteran.
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Speaker 1: You gotta know better than this. So he's gonna talk
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Speaker 1: at you. Yeah, well, at some point you need to
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Speaker 1: stop talking because that will cost your game when the
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Speaker 1: offense isn't playing well. Go ahead, Ronnie, tackle for a
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Speaker 1: lost quarterback. Hurry a sack. D J. Hayden says, the
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Speaker 1: sky is the limit for that guy. Ronnie talks about
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Speaker 1: the sack that was a huge moment in the game.
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Speaker 1: Coach died up a blitz and I knew I had
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Speaker 1: to get there quick, you know, being fourth down. Knew
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Speaker 1: Luck was gonna throw the ball quick and we'll get
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Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands. So um, I just
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Speaker 1: got the snap, got the snap, got off on the
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Speaker 1: snap quick. Just try to make a play and look
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Speaker 1: at Darius just driving the center back. You're right, you
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Speaker 1: would have been right there. I thought it was interesting though,
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Speaker 1: when I was reading Malie Jackson's transcript that yeah, he said,
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Speaker 1: Ronnie play Harrison played great. But he was the first
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Speaker 1: to point out the sports and like penalty and says
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Speaker 1: that can't happen. No, no, it can't. So a lot
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Speaker 1: of guys applauded him, but Malik was the one that said,
17:51
Speaker 1: this team has got to play smarter football, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: going forward. But if you want to be able to
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Speaker 1: win when when you're as hampered as they are on
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Speaker 1: the offensive side, you need every break you can get.
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Speaker 1: You you can't shoot yourself in the foot, you know.
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Speaker 1: And that goes for Taven Brian there on the field goal,
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Speaker 1: and Doug Moron said afterwards, hey, we talked all week
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Speaker 1: in meetings about not attacking the long snapper and he
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Speaker 1: goes and does that Now worked out to their favor
18:16
Speaker 1: because it took a field goal off and they got
18:17
Speaker 1: you know, it all worked out. Brian might be a
18:19
Speaker 1: football savant, figured it out, take those points off the board.
18:26
Speaker 1: Calais Campbell played very well, and Tavan moved inside and
18:29
Speaker 1: was able to rotate with Molik and play there in
18:31
Speaker 1: that three technique. You've got something going forward there. He played.
18:35
Speaker 1: He played very well. And you know what, before we
18:38
Speaker 1: get the last big thing, A lot of people in
18:40
Speaker 1: the last couple of months that's actually following along. Yeah,
18:47
Speaker 1: let me roll my eyes at you. People have said
18:51
Speaker 1: Brian's a bust. And I remember two thousand one and
18:54
Speaker 1: you would already gone to Indianapolis, so you don't recall this.
18:56
Speaker 1: But Marcus Trade was the pick in the draft and
18:59
Speaker 1: he couldn't get on the field and he got his
19:01
Speaker 1: butt kicked by Steve Hutchinson, who was another first round
19:04
Speaker 1: pick that year in a Week five matchup in Seattle,
19:08
Speaker 1: and everyone said, the guys at bust. They blew this one.
19:11
Speaker 1: And he went on to become a three time Pro
19:13
Speaker 1: Bowl defensive tackle and one of the best of his era.
19:17
Speaker 1: Inside he was big, strong and fast. So it has
19:19
Speaker 1: to happen now, it has happened. Now give up on
19:22
Speaker 1: a Taven Brian. Uh Remember people try to give up
19:26
Speaker 1: a Marcus Trout, So give the guy some time. Yeah, absolutely, Okay,
19:30
Speaker 1: Big thing three. Nashville is next. This team is heading
19:33
Speaker 1: a tennesseee with some momentum. The Titans escaped a win
19:37
Speaker 1: with the Jets forty seconds left and they get a touchdown.
19:40
Speaker 1: Clay's Campbell says, this team isn't given up yet. It's
19:44
Speaker 1: easy for people to throw in the towel in our situation,
19:47
Speaker 1: but this team has so much character and you know,
19:50
Speaker 1: you know, given all the mistakes and maybe we have
19:52
Speaker 1: a lot of fightingness. And I mean you got seeing
19:55
Speaker 1: it today. You know we're we're not done. We're keep
19:57
Speaker 1: playing ball and keep leaving leaving up there, you know,
19:59
Speaker 1: and other guys who after fighting playing through Hendry still
20:03
Speaker 1: given our current circumstance, you know, I got some much
20:04
Speaker 1: respect for those guys. This team is special. You were
20:07
Speaker 1: playing like this and it was this opening the whole year.
20:09
Speaker 1: But it is what it is. I was living a moment.
20:12
Speaker 1: What's enjoy and we'll trying to keep a goal. Alright.
20:14
Speaker 1: So the question is can this defense go to Nashville
20:18
Speaker 1: on Thursday night and play well against Marcus Mariota, who
20:22
Speaker 1: is not having a stellar season. Doesn't look like that
20:24
Speaker 1: elite franchise guy where he was drafted at number two,
20:27
Speaker 1: and yet seems to have this team's number. He makes
20:32
Speaker 1: plays when it counts and when it matters, and he
20:35
Speaker 1: seems to make the plays that break team's heart. I
20:37
Speaker 1: didn't see much of the game yesterday, but he did
20:39
Speaker 1: the Jets on a couple of plays that I saw.
20:42
Speaker 1: We think he's not playing well obviously, and he's running
20:44
Speaker 1: for thirty five yards and you look at the status
20:46
Speaker 1: sheet and that's the only thing he's done all game.
20:48
Speaker 1: But he's done it, so I think he I think
20:51
Speaker 1: it's it. It's an intriguing game. It's uh to pull
20:56
Speaker 1: from a memory that may even predate ashlynd Uh sort
21:00
Speaker 1: of feels like two thousand, well sort of, um pre
21:08
Speaker 1: date your time in grade school, right, Um. If you remember,
21:12
Speaker 1: they lost Tennessee three times the year before I recall,
21:14
Speaker 1: and the game out here where I remember is the
21:18
Speaker 1: queling mccardo game, and they wound up beating him. Tennessee
21:23
Speaker 1: was on the way to the playoffs. Jacksonville was already
21:25
Speaker 1: out of it at that point, they had just gotten
21:28
Speaker 1: rolled by Tennessee probably two or three weeks before in
21:31
Speaker 1: a Monday night in Nation Many night bad where it
21:34
Speaker 1: felt like that was a Frank White check game, and
21:36
Speaker 1: it felt like the low point of the season came
21:39
Speaker 1: back and beat him out here. To do that against
21:42
Speaker 1: Tennessee would be a second interesting character game in a row.
21:48
Speaker 1: The flip side is and I was not impressed with
21:51
Speaker 1: the quarterback change yesterday. I didn't think that watching him
21:56
Speaker 1: that he is the best option going forward my opinion.
21:59
Speaker 1: Talking to some people, the offensive line looked very susceptible
22:02
Speaker 1: to the rush against the not very good rushing team,
22:04
Speaker 1: and I was told by two different people that it
22:07
Speaker 1: was because the quarterback was hesitant. Now looked hesitant. Sure
22:11
Speaker 1: did to me. So here's the question, how much better
22:13
Speaker 1: is the offense? How much better is Kessler on Thursday
22:16
Speaker 1: night with Leonard for Nette in the lineup? We hope
22:19
Speaker 1: he's a lot better. And that's the hope, and that's
22:21
Speaker 1: what you You have to assume that the game plan,
22:26
Speaker 1: the approach yesterday was largely because they didn't feel like
22:29
Speaker 1: they had any weapons and it was a place safe
22:32
Speaker 1: check down. You often, you know, see games where quarterback
22:36
Speaker 1: checks check down. Uh. He checked down in an inordinate
22:40
Speaker 1: number of times yesterday. Um. I don't think you can
22:43
Speaker 1: go back to Blake this week because it's it's a
22:45
Speaker 1: short week, and you've got to think that a lot
22:47
Speaker 1: of the game plan will have been It's just hard
22:51
Speaker 1: to make Uh. I would Well, here's the thing, and
22:59
Speaker 1: I sort of rest with this back and forth because
23:01
Speaker 1: I figure we're gonna talk about it. I'd be tempted to.
23:04
Speaker 1: At the same time, I don't think the reason that
23:08
Speaker 1: you went to Cody in the first place was because
23:11
Speaker 1: you thought Cody was fantastic, or you did that before
23:15
Speaker 1: you went because you were really worried about what you
23:17
Speaker 1: had seen from Blake for two or three weeks in
23:19
Speaker 1: a row. So if that was enough to force you
23:25
Speaker 1: away from him, is one game of this enough to
23:28
Speaker 1: make you go back? Um? I probably would go back
23:33
Speaker 1: if it was a Sunday. At the same time, you
23:36
Speaker 1: have the new coordinator as well, and now you're throwing
23:39
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff, and it's just the hesitancy. The
23:43
Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't run as well as Blake does.
23:45
Speaker 1: He didn't have that timing down, you know. He just
23:48
Speaker 1: and I get it he's been sitting on the batch.
23:49
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to pick on him, and I get
23:51
Speaker 1: that also that your future is not on the roster
23:54
Speaker 1: at quarterback. I'm just saying that, if it's me, i'd
23:57
Speaker 1: rather see five with the ball in his hands over
23:58
Speaker 1: the last month because I believe he gives you a
24:01
Speaker 1: better chance of winning. Yeah, and I know we're going
24:03
Speaker 1: to talk about this in z own sting shots, so
24:04
Speaker 1: I don't want to go too far down the road.
24:05
Speaker 1: I would have first eight or nine games. Five. Yes,
24:11
Speaker 1: it's the last couple that's sort of forced them away
24:13
Speaker 1: from it. So it's a tough spot. I wish I
24:16
Speaker 1: had a better answer. I wouldn't do it this week
24:19
Speaker 1: because of the short week, because you have to figure
24:21
Speaker 1: that a lot of what they worked on last week
24:23
Speaker 1: is going to be there, because it's hard to do
24:26
Speaker 1: it in two days. And I can't help but go
24:28
Speaker 1: back to the conversation we had last week where we
24:30
Speaker 1: said that we thought Borrels would never take a snap
24:31
Speaker 1: in Jacksville again, and now, based on Kessler's performance, we're
24:34
Speaker 1: going back and yeah, Well, I mean that's what happens
24:36
Speaker 1: when you do when you make moves like this, that seem,
24:40
Speaker 1: you know, knee jerk. Often you jerk back the other way.
24:44
Speaker 1: It just can't help it. It's not a solution. The
24:47
Speaker 1: solution is not on the roster. All right, We'll take
24:49
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24:51
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26:45
Speaker 1: here on a Monday morning, Jaguar is six nothing winners yesterday,
26:48
Speaker 1: snapping the long losing streak. Really short week. Here. Players
26:53
Speaker 1: are in late in the afternoon. They've got to walk
26:55
Speaker 1: through today and tomorrow. Um, you know the players are
26:58
Speaker 1: are They're ambivalent on the whole Thursday night thing, you know,
27:03
Speaker 1: I mean they get it. There's more money that's in
27:05
Speaker 1: their pocket because what it fox A billion dollars for
27:08
Speaker 1: a couple of years of this package, but it's tough
27:10
Speaker 1: on players to turn around and play so quickly. Yeah,
27:12
Speaker 1: it feels like the games have been a little better
27:16
Speaker 1: this year. I mean I've I've watched a few of
27:19
Speaker 1: them and been compelled to keep watching the Saints. That
27:22
Speaker 1: Cowboys is pretty good on the other hand, and you
27:28
Speaker 1: saw the Saints offense really struggle on the road the
27:31
Speaker 1: other night. Doesn't feel like that would have happened on
27:33
Speaker 1: a Sunday game. I'm not taking anything away from Dallas,
27:36
Speaker 1: but you see that a lot where teams just don't
27:39
Speaker 1: play like they would if they had the extra three days,
27:42
Speaker 1: and players really dislike it. I know Richard Sherman got
27:46
Speaker 1: hurt on a Thursday night last year. Uh, he's always
27:49
Speaker 1: been very anti that because it's it's very tough when
27:52
Speaker 1: the players to turn it around physically. UM, I don't
27:56
Speaker 1: love him. I think players rightfully don't like them because
27:59
Speaker 1: of that element. Uh. And it feels like if you
28:05
Speaker 1: had that second by the team I mean that people
28:08
Speaker 1: talk about, which I'm against, by the way, I don't
28:10
Speaker 1: want a second by, but if you had it, perhaps
28:13
Speaker 1: you could do a little more to having fewer games
28:18
Speaker 1: where it's a two day turnaround like that for teams
28:20
Speaker 1: because it's it's a tough thing and the quality of
28:23
Speaker 1: football often is much much lower than it would be
28:27
Speaker 1: with three more days. But it's hard for them to
28:28
Speaker 1: argue with the money, which is why the Players Association
28:31
Speaker 1: and their partners in this, it's why they sign off
28:33
Speaker 1: on it. It's in the collective bargaining agreement because it's
28:36
Speaker 1: one point three billion dollars and they get they get
28:39
Speaker 1: fifty of that national television money, so more than half
28:42
Speaker 1: of it goes into the player's pockets. But you look
28:44
Speaker 1: at a guy like Jalen Ramsey this week, who we
28:46
Speaker 1: know is playing hurt on Sunday. Now he has three
28:48
Speaker 1: days to get back to playing healthy at a high level.
28:50
Speaker 1: That's that's gonna be tough for him. I'm intrigued to
28:52
Speaker 1: see what will happen now. Speak that when you heard
28:54
Speaker 1: last week even Sally I'm sorry interrupted the when Doug
28:59
Speaker 1: was talking at a couple of the moves. Uh. The
29:04
Speaker 1: teams make moves and plan almost as if it's one game. Uh,
29:09
Speaker 1: and it obviously not one game. But do you it's
29:13
Speaker 1: such a tight turnaround that you have to approach it
29:16
Speaker 1: much much differently than you would a Sunday game and
29:20
Speaker 1: you have to prepare. Um, it just turns it into
29:25
Speaker 1: football was meant to be a week to week sport,
29:28
Speaker 1: and it turns it into where you're almost playing back
29:29
Speaker 1: to back and it's a weird dynamic for these teams.
29:31
Speaker 1: It'll be different highlights. All right, Let's go to the
29:35
Speaker 1: first drive for the Colts. A huge play for DJ Hayting,
29:38
Speaker 1: a guy that we have missed for nearly two months
29:40
Speaker 1: on the field. He steps up big first drive. The
29:43
Speaker 1: game blows. They're running barrel field looking for people to
29:47
Speaker 1: pick off all the time. Go down to day Luck
29:51
Speaker 1: under pressure, throws on the run and it's s d
29:55
Speaker 1: J Hayden picks it off, but he's not. And did
30:00
Speaker 1: you see Calais Campbell right, so much watched this that
30:04
Speaker 1: that's Quentin Nelson, the sixth overall pick in the draft
30:07
Speaker 1: in a terrific guard and there's an all pro pass
30:11
Speaker 1: rusher who just made him look like a rookie. And
30:14
Speaker 1: d J Hayden steps up with a tremendous moment because
30:17
Speaker 1: remember that drive was set up by Carlos Hyde's fumble,
30:23
Speaker 1: so and that didn't feel good at the moment. You're like, oh,
30:26
Speaker 1: it's starting. It was gonna be a watershed the other way.
30:30
Speaker 1: A few thoughts on this by First of all, um,
30:33
Speaker 1: they covered Hebron on that one, didn't they It's like
30:36
Speaker 1: nine guys around there. They weren't going to lose that
30:39
Speaker 1: same way. Uh. A Second of all, I get how people,
30:44
Speaker 1: um remember the off season when every the the whole
30:50
Speaker 1: thing was how could you give Dante Moncrieff and DJ
30:54
Speaker 1: hayd and all that money? Well done, Moncrief has been
30:58
Speaker 1: what he is and he hasn't been worth the contract
31:00
Speaker 1: and all that. Uh. Free agency doesn't always work out.
31:05
Speaker 1: It worked out to an incredible degree for this team
31:07
Speaker 1: last year, but give his team some credit for making
31:10
Speaker 1: the right move with d J Hayden. I think he's
31:13
Speaker 1: better in coverage there in Colvin was Aaron Coleson is
31:16
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players of all time around here. Uh,
31:19
Speaker 1: and I thought he was a very very very good nickel.
31:22
Speaker 1: But in in pass coverage, DJ Hayden's better and he's
31:27
Speaker 1: been an improvement. It was incredible play made yesterday people
31:31
Speaker 1: free time play that Hayden was the twelfth pick of
31:33
Speaker 1: the draft. Rough that he came out, he was a
31:35
Speaker 1: very highly regarded corner and if not for the medical
31:37
Speaker 1: issues with his heart that he had at the University
31:38
Speaker 1: of Houston, he might have gone higher. And he's bounced
31:41
Speaker 1: around in in Oakland and in Detroity, was miscast and
31:45
Speaker 1: they found a role with him. And boy hasn't paid
31:47
Speaker 1: off with him on the field. Right. So, as soon
31:49
Speaker 1: as you want to criticize offseason moves, and it's easy
31:51
Speaker 1: to dump the ones that don't work, that free agent
31:54
Speaker 1: move was a very good move. Uh. And I think
31:58
Speaker 1: it's important that those three corners are most likely back
32:02
Speaker 1: next year. Uh. Gives them something to build around with
32:06
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison as a key contributor as well. Yeah, you
32:08
Speaker 1: definitely want to see more from him, that's for sure. Alright,
32:10
Speaker 1: skipping around a little bit here, let's go to the
32:12
Speaker 1: fourth quarter third down efficiency for the Jaguars offense. T
32:15
Speaker 1: J Yelden sets up more points on the board. Yea
32:21
Speaker 1: yelled number could get the first out of ys get
32:24
Speaker 1: the first out and against the Bills, won't Bilbold today.
32:30
Speaker 1: It's a good snap, good hole kick his on its way.
32:34
Speaker 1: You know, at the time when they had to settle
32:36
Speaker 1: for a field goal, I thought, Mandy, they waste a
32:38
Speaker 1: great play. There by yelled in because here was your
32:40
Speaker 1: best chance perhaps to to build into a touchdown, and
32:45
Speaker 1: you felt like they needed it. As it turns out,
32:47
Speaker 1: Lambau was money, but yelled in had a big day
32:49
Speaker 1: as a receiver and as a running back. And while
32:52
Speaker 1: he is not in the in the class of the
32:55
Speaker 1: top runners in this game, like Leonard for nette in
32:58
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville in particular, boy, you're glad you have him.
33:02
Speaker 1: He is a utility knife. He can do so many things.
33:05
Speaker 1: And this is not to discredit t. J. Yelman on lap.
33:08
Speaker 1: You had to dig deep on that offensive big play,
33:10
Speaker 1: didn't we I mean, and it shows you what the
33:14
Speaker 1: game was. That was a huge play and it was
33:17
Speaker 1: the kind of play in a game like that that
33:20
Speaker 1: you had to have. Uh. Another big play also the
33:22
Speaker 1: Dante moncreave eighteen yards um. There were a few that
33:27
Speaker 1: the receivers made that they turned into it. Uh. But
33:30
Speaker 1: again that was another check down, another example of what
33:32
Speaker 1: they were limited to do. You just hoped with Leonard
33:36
Speaker 1: four Nette coming back on Thursday that whatever was going
33:40
Speaker 1: on with the game plan yesterday that felt so limited. Uh.
33:44
Speaker 1: We talked about them basically having to game plan and
33:47
Speaker 1: probably had the same game plan for Thursday. You hope that,
33:50
Speaker 1: like somewhere in the back of that book is a
33:52
Speaker 1: Leonard game plan. It's different because I'm not sure you
33:55
Speaker 1: want to see that again, all right? Fourth down efficiency
33:58
Speaker 1: for the Colts zero. Miles Jack in the locker room
34:01
Speaker 1: says that the Colts went back to what they thought
34:03
Speaker 1: worked in the first time these teams met, obviously didn't
34:05
Speaker 1: work this time. And a quick snap of a shovel
34:09
Speaker 1: pass and that's gonna be short of the goal line.
34:12
Speaker 1: Want to play by and got way who got a
34:16
Speaker 1: piece of Wilkins on that shovel pass? He robs it.
34:23
Speaker 1: He'll take the hand it is. How is lost water ahead?
34:29
Speaker 1: Miles Jack and Tellvin so combined unforcing the turnover and
34:34
Speaker 1: recover he would add into the flat and get him
34:37
Speaker 1: the football play locked down the tube. Look looking at
34:41
Speaker 1: the quick how does he's taken down? Funds come in
34:45
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison sent him and we'll see who the penalty
34:49
Speaker 1: is against. And those three plays, as much as any,
34:54
Speaker 1: tell the story of the game. Frank Write's decision, Yanique's
34:56
Speaker 1: decision not to sell out and go and get the quarterback,
34:59
Speaker 1: which by the way, is his instinct read the play
35:02
Speaker 1: perfectly made the stop. Um, Telvin and Miles stopped to
35:06
Speaker 1: drive that looked like it had some momentum, and then
35:09
Speaker 1: Marcel Darius and Ronnie Harrison with the play the game.
35:13
Speaker 1: I thought Todd wash had a great game in terms
35:15
Speaker 1: of mixing blitz. I watched the game back this morning,
35:19
Speaker 1: and uh, I thought they blitzed a lot more than
35:22
Speaker 1: they actually did. They had a lot of uh you know,
35:26
Speaker 1: Russian cover as well. It was not just an all
35:28
Speaker 1: out blitz. And from what Doug had said in the
35:31
Speaker 1: press conference, I was in the impression maybe they had
35:33
Speaker 1: done it more. Uh, they sure learned. If you remember
35:37
Speaker 1: what was one of the big plays in Indie a
35:40
Speaker 1: touchdown or Ebron scored on on the reverse and they
35:43
Speaker 1: just ran that same play there from fourth down right
35:46
Speaker 1: on fourth down and they got the fumble on it
35:49
Speaker 1: and stopped a similar play. Great awareness by the Jaguars
35:52
Speaker 1: defense yesterday. Um, they sure learned from what happened last time.
35:58
Speaker 1: As I said, they covered Ebron on that first way.
36:00
Speaker 1: There was no way he was getting that ball and
36:01
Speaker 1: they were watching for the plays that worked before. So again, Uh,
36:06
Speaker 1: the Colts haven't scored on the Jaguars now in six quarters. Uh,
36:10
Speaker 1: pretty impressive considering the caliber of that offense. You gotta
36:14
Speaker 1: think the Jaguars defense watched the first half of that
36:16
Speaker 1: first Colts well they did, and they said they did,
36:19
Speaker 1: and they said that they knew that their mistakes were
36:21
Speaker 1: correctable and that's why they had confidence that they could
36:23
Speaker 1: play as well yesterday as they did in the second
36:26
Speaker 1: half in Indianapolis. And then the biggest difference, Brian was
36:29
Speaker 1: what I sort of talked about a second ago, not
36:32
Speaker 1: really an incredible amount of blitzing. The pass rush got
36:37
Speaker 1: home against an offensive line that it had gotten to
36:41
Speaker 1: the point where you figured going into that game that
36:44
Speaker 1: that the checkmark, if you will, was going to go
36:47
Speaker 1: to the Colts offensive line in terms stopping the Jaguars
36:49
Speaker 1: pass rush. That was reversed from earlier this year, where
36:52
Speaker 1: every check mark would have gone to to the Jaguars
36:55
Speaker 1: pass rush in that situation, Uh, probably their best game
36:58
Speaker 1: of the year in terms of getting the quarterback. And
36:59
Speaker 1: you know them in Indianapolis felt as if their offensive
37:03
Speaker 1: line was not just strong and powerful, but quick, and
37:05
Speaker 1: they were always pulling and it was stretching Nelson or
37:07
Speaker 1: bringing the other guard to the outside. And yet the
37:09
Speaker 1: Jaguars had an answer for it all day long. I
37:12
Speaker 1: also thought it was interesting you had Marcel Darius and
37:14
Speaker 1: Calais Campbell lined up strength on strength on Quentin Nelson
37:17
Speaker 1: and they won most of the day. This is a
37:19
Speaker 1: guy that I even said looks like John Hannah early
37:21
Speaker 1: on this year, but yesterday looked like a rookie. You
37:23
Speaker 1: don't want to see any yelling videos this week. Now
37:25
Speaker 1: you probably won't. I think told off on that show
37:28
Speaker 1: us the play at the end of the game. Yes,
37:30
Speaker 1: the last player the game, Jalen Ramsey forty four knsecutive
37:34
Speaker 1: starts for him. Now, even when he's hurt, he's still
37:36
Speaker 1: really good for the outside the swamp and to such
37:47
Speaker 1: a one seconds and if you know the rule, you're
37:53
Speaker 1: not arguing about this because look what a great job
37:55
Speaker 1: by Ramsey to undercut that. I mean, he could have
37:58
Speaker 1: just gone for the tackle, as you mentioned early, but
38:00
Speaker 1: you can see he's he stuffs his shoulder to get
38:02
Speaker 1: in front of him and cut off the sideline. The
38:04
Speaker 1: understanding and the sometimes what gets lost is a lot
38:11
Speaker 1: of these guys come into the league as great athletes,
38:14
Speaker 1: and he is a football player. He understood the situation
38:19
Speaker 1: and that's the situation where you you know, it's easy
38:23
Speaker 1: for them to go back on film this week and say, hey,
38:26
Speaker 1: Jalen here, you should have done this. He didn't have
38:28
Speaker 1: to think about that. There's no time to think on
38:30
Speaker 1: that play. That's knowing what has to be done. That's
38:34
Speaker 1: just having it trained into you since you were very young. Uh.
38:38
Speaker 1: You know, an incredible for incredible awareness football play to
38:41
Speaker 1: go with the athletic ability to pull it off. And
38:43
Speaker 1: once again you see his four momentum. He's pushed backwards
38:46
Speaker 1: before he gets out about and with the arm trying
38:48
Speaker 1: to push him back in. I mean, and of course
38:51
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin knows the rule, he understands, he's hyped and
38:54
Speaker 1: he as much as how could you not? I mean,
38:57
Speaker 1: I'll say this one game a couple of Monday nights ago,
39:01
Speaker 1: had everyone's excitement. That ending drive by the Colts was
39:06
Speaker 1: as nerve racking and as exciting as any moment to me,
39:09
Speaker 1: at least in these high powered, high octane games. I
39:13
Speaker 1: get it that you want more scoring because the game
39:14
Speaker 1: seems boring going along, but that last drive wrot that
39:18
Speaker 1: scoring average a little back down to earth. Yes they did.
39:21
Speaker 1: We said we're kind of pushing it back to the
39:24
Speaker 1: stone ages and football the future has yet to be funny.
39:28
Speaker 1: You looked at like the NFL dot com website yesterday
39:31
Speaker 1: and it's like all these double digits and scoring marks
39:34
Speaker 1: and there was like six nothing. Well, you know, it's
39:35
Speaker 1: only the fourth shutout of the season in the league. Yeah,
39:38
Speaker 1: the rules are just not set up for teams not
39:39
Speaker 1: to school. Almost got almost got a couple of them
39:41
Speaker 1: here yesterday. But that last drive, I remember you and
39:44
Speaker 1: I looked at each other and we just gave each
39:46
Speaker 1: other a look. Nothing need be said, but it was like, oh, boy,
39:49
Speaker 1: hold on, I think I mentioned to someone, you cannot
39:51
Speaker 1: send this crowd home against these colts like you did
39:54
Speaker 1: against the Steelers because it was a you know, one
39:57
Speaker 1: of the reason why the seats rampty in many respect
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40:02
Speaker 1: it was just like, well, I do I even bother
40:04
Speaker 1: that kind of a game. And if you go play
40:05
Speaker 1: well on Thursday, and I'll bring people back for the
40:07
Speaker 1: season finale here against the Redskin held him twice. That's
40:10
Speaker 1: the impressive thing, right. It took two not goal line stands,
40:16
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40:19
Speaker 1: a fitting weight end. Even when Ronnie Harrison got the sack,
40:22
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40:27
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40:28
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42:43
Speaker 1: all right, let's go to Liam from Jacksonville. I understand
42:47
Speaker 1: what was written in this week's Quick Thoughts about Blake
42:49
Speaker 1: Bortles being the best option. I disagree, simply because we
42:52
Speaker 1: weren't expecting a dramatic change replacing Bordles, but what we
42:55
Speaker 1: did get was no turnovers by the quarterback and a
42:58
Speaker 1: better natural passer. I'm not saying he's out our best
43:01
Speaker 1: option going forward, but I think he's the better option
43:04
Speaker 1: right now. Well. I included this because I had read
43:06
Speaker 1: your quick thought, Brian is interesting. Um, you know, I
43:12
Speaker 1: don't know that Kessler is a dramatically better pastor than
43:18
Speaker 1: Bordles right now. And I get Blake's accuracy issues. Um,
43:24
Speaker 1: and I guess Cody's more I could, but sure you
43:25
Speaker 1: didn't see it yesterday. I guess it's my point, and uh,
43:30
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I'll think it's been up to
43:31
Speaker 1: you because I kind of included for you. Okay, So
43:35
Speaker 1: four straight games Bortles didn't have a turnover, and then
43:37
Speaker 1: he had the two in Buffalo, one which was clearly
43:39
Speaker 1: his fault and the other which the ball clanged off
43:42
Speaker 1: of James O'Shaughnessy's hands. So one turnover that you can
43:45
Speaker 1: blame Bordles for in five games. I get it. They
43:48
Speaker 1: didn't play very well. They weren't throwing the ball very well.
43:50
Speaker 1: But the point that I've been making is the offensive
43:52
Speaker 1: line is a shambles. Let me think about this for
43:54
Speaker 1: a minute. If you count D. D. Westbrook is as
43:57
Speaker 1: a reserve, because that's what he started the season Primes
43:59
Speaker 1: in place of Arcis Lee, D D. Westbrook, Austin Seferian Jenkins, Um,
44:05
Speaker 1: what's the tackle's name of Trey Flowers, Um uh Eric,
44:09
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers, Right, I don't even know Eric Flowers, Um
44:13
Speaker 1: Patrick a mom a uh, Tyler Shatley, you see what
44:17
Speaker 1: I mean? And for Net was gone for most of
44:18
Speaker 1: the year. Hell, half the offense was gone. Oh we're
44:21
Speaker 1: just gonna throw this all at Blake Bortle's feed ridiculous.
44:24
Speaker 1: I believe that Blake Bortles is the best option because
44:29
Speaker 1: he has that athleticism to escape and the offensive line
44:32
Speaker 1: is not great. But yesterday, from talking to people, the
44:37
Speaker 1: quarterback who played Kessler did not help them. He ducked
44:41
Speaker 1: his way into you bet, you bet he and he
44:44
Speaker 1: was hesitant to get rid of the ball, and that
44:46
Speaker 1: created more pressure and a couple of liam could think
44:50
Speaker 1: whatever he wants. It's an opinion matter. I'm saying that
44:52
Speaker 1: Boards is the right guy if you want to win
44:54
Speaker 1: over the end of the season. And I think the
44:57
Speaker 1: the interesting thing is people were so frustrated with Blake
45:02
Speaker 1: and you sort of look for every reason why he's
45:05
Speaker 1: at fault. I got emails yesterday saying, see and see
45:11
Speaker 1: what happens when you have a quarterback who doesn't turn
45:13
Speaker 1: the ball over. Blake would have turned the ball every
45:16
Speaker 1: yesterday and they would have lost. That was a very
45:17
Speaker 1: common thing. And I think to your point, people forget
45:21
Speaker 1: that until the Buffalo game, he had gone three straight
45:23
Speaker 1: and four straight that in a stretch of his career.
45:26
Speaker 1: So if all you want from your quarterback, I guess
45:29
Speaker 1: this is the point. If all you want from your
45:32
Speaker 1: quarterback is Okay, we're not going to throw down field,
45:36
Speaker 1: We're going to check down. Um. Anybody can do that,
45:40
Speaker 1: and Blake had been doing that and that was again
45:44
Speaker 1: part of the problem. So if that's all you're gonna do,
45:46
Speaker 1: then yes, take his athleticism. I thought late in the
45:51
Speaker 1: game yesterday there were a couple instances where Cody was
45:54
Speaker 1: thrown downfield a little more. Uh, if that's what we're
45:58
Speaker 1: gonna see, then we need to see it and roll
46:01
Speaker 1: with that. If not, then I think five. I'm willing
46:03
Speaker 1: to buy that on the lines of you get four
46:06
Speaker 1: net back and we'll see if that changes what Cody
46:09
Speaker 1: Kessler is working with. But I said, look, Kessler, Milanovich,
46:13
Speaker 1: they wanted their chances. They've got their chance. But with
46:16
Speaker 1: what you're working with, with all those players gone, how
46:19
Speaker 1: could we have expected it was going to look any different?
46:22
Speaker 1: Maybe changes that up for net. Maybe changes that up.
46:25
Speaker 1: But I didn't expect the Jaguars to score a touchdown yesterday.
46:28
Speaker 1: I didn't. They got field goals. It was enough, and
46:31
Speaker 1: the defense came through. Somebody expected touchdowns, right, don't bring
46:36
Speaker 1: it up, John, I said, might, and he will, he won't,
46:39
Speaker 1: he might, hence the might might not. All right, Let's
46:42
Speaker 1: go to Sweeney from Scotland. Hey, what a performance from
46:46
Speaker 1: the defense. Was this possibly a statement from the defense
46:49
Speaker 1: regarding the QB change or am I looking too much
46:51
Speaker 1: into this? Boy? I got this a lot um and
46:56
Speaker 1: I actually got questions yesterday saying was this a matter
47:00
Speaker 1: of the defense going? And I think about what it
47:03
Speaker 1: would take to have this happen Brian and ash Um.
47:06
Speaker 1: I got an email from somebody's asking if the defense
47:09
Speaker 1: had gone to Doug morn and said, we're not playing
47:12
Speaker 1: hard anymore and unless we get a quarterback and coordinator change.
47:17
Speaker 1: Yes in mass they walked the rubber hallway and say
47:21
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work that well. Um, so, yes, credit
47:24
Speaker 1: the defense for playing incredibly well yesterday. I don't think
47:29
Speaker 1: it's irrational to think that there is a hard connection
47:33
Speaker 1: between the quarterback change and how that team played defensively yesterday.
47:37
Speaker 1: Although I asked some players and you're absolutely right on
47:40
Speaker 1: that's not how it works. But I did ask some
47:42
Speaker 1: guys if they didn't know that because of the change,
47:46
Speaker 1: because of all the injuries, that if they were going
47:48
Speaker 1: to win, it was going to be on them. And
47:50
Speaker 1: they didn't want to say, yeah, we knew the offense
47:53
Speaker 1: was gonna stick. But what they said was, we knew
47:56
Speaker 1: that we were capable. This is Marcel, this is Miles Um.
48:01
Speaker 1: They knew they were capable of dictating the outcome of
48:03
Speaker 1: the game. They felt comfortable based on what they did
48:05
Speaker 1: in the second half in India, and they thought they
48:09
Speaker 1: had to go play their best game of the season.
48:11
Speaker 1: And that's different then, It's different than the immiplication and
48:14
Speaker 1: many of the questions is, well, we finally got Blake
48:17
Speaker 1: out of the lineup, so now let's play hard. By
48:19
Speaker 1: the way, if if you don't get this, the players
48:21
Speaker 1: weren't calling for Blake to sit, right, they weren't. They
48:25
Speaker 1: supported five Now. I think in the last couple of
48:28
Speaker 1: weeks there had been some frustration of how much longer
48:32
Speaker 1: can we do this? I heard that from some players too,
48:35
Speaker 1: but it wasn't they weren't going down the hallway saying right,
48:38
Speaker 1: I'm not playing. It was more of a man I
48:41
Speaker 1: wish this was you knows right. Yeah, it hasn't looked easy.
48:46
Speaker 1: It hasn't. It hasn't been easy. All right, let's go
48:49
Speaker 1: to Cliff for our last ozone stap shot. Too little,
48:53
Speaker 1: way too late, you know what, Cliff, Cliff John something
48:58
Speaker 1: to say, jump off it victory And I get that
49:06
Speaker 1: it's too little, too late and they're not gonna make
49:08
Speaker 1: the playoffs off of it. Um, we get all that,
49:11
Speaker 1: but within the context of that game yesterday, Uh, it
49:15
Speaker 1: was a remarkable performance. And what you have left to
49:19
Speaker 1: this season is five games to decide for, including yesterday
49:25
Speaker 1: as a package of trying to figure out what this
49:28
Speaker 1: team is going to be. Um, if what we saw
49:32
Speaker 1: from the defense yesterday and grinding out some wins, if
49:37
Speaker 1: that's the norm of what we see going forward, Uh,
49:41
Speaker 1: there's still time to make decisions off what happens in
49:43
Speaker 1: the last five games. I keep getting emails from people saying,
49:45
Speaker 1: what what are they gonna do in the off season?
49:47
Speaker 1: What are they gonna do here? Where they're gonna hear
49:49
Speaker 1: there's still a quarter of the season left. What to
49:51
Speaker 1: play to that. I had looked at the salary cap.
49:54
Speaker 1: We talked about this, and I didn't see any way
49:57
Speaker 1: that you were going to be able to keep Calais
49:59
Speaker 1: Campbell way he played yesterday, way right right, even if
50:03
Speaker 1: he's not willing to take a pay cut, you find
50:05
Speaker 1: a way to keep a guy like that because he
50:07
Speaker 1: went up against an offensive line and a guard, a
50:09
Speaker 1: guard who was getting Rookie of the Year, offensive Rookie
50:13
Speaker 1: over the Year conversation in national circles because of the
50:17
Speaker 1: way he's playing his butt. And that's the thing when
50:20
Speaker 1: people ask, well, what are they gonna do next season,
50:22
Speaker 1: it's like, if it ends now, here's what they do. Uh.
50:26
Speaker 1: But it doesn't end now, so there's still And again
50:30
Speaker 1: I was fascinated to a couple of key players. He
50:33
Speaker 1: kept talking about what we're trying to accomplish, and there
50:37
Speaker 1: wasn't a period at the end of the sentence. It
50:39
Speaker 1: was a moving forward. I didn't necessarily expect that, all right,
50:44
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52:44
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52:46
Speaker 1: game right now? Unique and Gogway leading the way. He
52:48
Speaker 1: didn't play tremendous Bowl game. I mean he he had
52:51
Speaker 1: the sack strip first of the year. That was that
52:55
Speaker 1: was called back by the penalty on C J. Rivers
52:57
Speaker 1: and but he was all over the field. He had
53:00
Speaker 1: a great game statistically and was better than his statistics,
53:04
Speaker 1: Like I say, he should have had two sacks um. Ironically,
53:08
Speaker 1: the sack that he got was sort of a coverage sack.
53:12
Speaker 1: He had great pressure, luck got away, and then he
53:14
Speaker 1: got to him. He had a couple more where he
53:16
Speaker 1: had pressure and didn't get to him. It again speaks
53:19
Speaker 1: to it's so difficult to really judge defensive lineman when
53:22
Speaker 1: all you think about his sacks because he got his
53:25
Speaker 1: one sack on a play where he may not have,
53:28
Speaker 1: you know, perhaps wasn't his best pass rush, and then
53:31
Speaker 1: had three or four other pass rushes that he could
53:32
Speaker 1: have gotten sacks on and didn't get it. And that's
53:34
Speaker 1: the life of a defensive lineman. Ash, what did he
53:36
Speaker 1: say to you and I in the locker room this
53:37
Speaker 1: week that he was going to wreck Havoc Thrust the
53:40
Speaker 1: season and ruin teams playoffs. That was his goal to
53:44
Speaker 1: wreck other teams And it was fun to watch him play.
53:47
Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, but I chuckled. I
53:49
Speaker 1: remember that. It's a whole game long his first trip
53:53
Speaker 1: because he was so serious about it. I mean, he
53:55
Speaker 1: was so absolutely adamant about wrecking other people's playoff hopes.
54:00
Speaker 1: And the team that they get on on Thursday night
54:03
Speaker 1: has some playoff hopes. Yeah, see if they can do
54:05
Speaker 1: it again. Okay, we're about to show our human side
54:08
Speaker 1: here with he will he won't, he might, um, and
54:10
Speaker 1: we'll pay off from Friday Show and John you had
54:14
Speaker 1: the running back, Yeah, Carlos high and I said he
54:16
Speaker 1: will get an opportunity. He was going to start uh,
54:19
Speaker 1: and he started um because won't get a hundred yards.
54:23
Speaker 1: I was dead on about that, because nobody on this
54:25
Speaker 1: ovinence was getting hunder yard yesterday. I said he might
54:27
Speaker 1: be the difference in the game. And he really, I mean,
54:30
Speaker 1: he might be a reason why the Jaggars offense was effective.
54:32
Speaker 1: He really wasn't, although he had some effective runs. But
54:35
Speaker 1: what you can't do is complained by night getting the
54:36
Speaker 1: ball and then found on your first care right, you
54:38
Speaker 1: can't do it. You can't do that. Okay, go for it,
54:41
Speaker 1: Oh boy. I had Cody Kessler as my He will,
54:44
Speaker 1: he won't be Mike, you're all fired up, fired up.
54:47
Speaker 1: I said, he will take advantage of the opportunity kind of.
54:51
Speaker 1: I said he won't ball out. He didn't. And I
54:54
Speaker 1: said he might throw two touchdown passes. Yanks might not.
54:58
Speaker 1: Might not do that. I took the offensive coordinator. I
55:01
Speaker 1: took Scott Milanovitch, and I said he will try to
55:03
Speaker 1: do things differently. Obviously, I got that sense in listening
55:07
Speaker 1: to him that he was going to apply some of
55:08
Speaker 1: his principles. Yeah, I got that wrong. It was checked
55:12
Speaker 1: down day all around. Um. I said that he won't
55:17
Speaker 1: uh put Kessler in a position where he has to
55:19
Speaker 1: shrow the ball thirty five times in the game. Dead
55:22
Speaker 1: on baby he Um. But I said he might get
55:25
Speaker 1: this offense to twenty points, thinking that there was something
55:28
Speaker 1: up his sleeve, some trick uh And and he didn't
55:31
Speaker 1: do that. And we sort of a tongue in cheek
55:34
Speaker 1: hammered the offense because we all, being the prognoscare as
55:38
Speaker 1: we are, we all talked about offense before the best
55:41
Speaker 1: day in defensive history. Um. But considering what they were
55:46
Speaker 1: up against and considering the way the game went, U,
55:52
Speaker 1: had the Colts scored, had they gotten up, had been
55:54
Speaker 1: three nothing, seven nothing, seven point the Colts, perhaps they
55:58
Speaker 1: would have played this differently. Um, they were all They
56:02
Speaker 1: never got behind obviously, cause the Colts didn't score. So
56:07
Speaker 1: when Doug has them call a game, it's going to
56:09
Speaker 1: be within the concept of trying to win that game,
56:11
Speaker 1: not trying to help their stats, So there may have
56:14
Speaker 1: been other things that they would have done had they
56:17
Speaker 1: been forced into that situation and the and the checkdowns,
56:20
Speaker 1: a conservative game plan played into giving themselves the best
56:24
Speaker 1: chance to win yesterday. Uh, that's what you have to think.
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Speaker 1: Considering that the mandate was to improve the passing offense.
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Speaker 1: Short week, um put on the spot. There's Leonard for net.
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Speaker 1: Help Cody Kessler improve the passing offense or is this
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Speaker 1: offense so limited by the offensive line that they just
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Speaker 1: have to hope they can get anything going. I think
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Speaker 1: he'll improve it, and I also think Cody mentioned it
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Speaker 1: after the game, and so did Doug. They know you
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Speaker 1: can't win in the NFL not going down the field.
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Speaker 1: They both mentioned after the game. Uh, you get the
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Speaker 1: idea they'll look at the film this week and say, okay,
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Speaker 1: these were situation since where you should have It'll be
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Speaker 1: more in their mindset. I think there'll be more aggressive
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Speaker 1: down the field on It would help if d J.
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Speaker 1: Chark was on the field. I think he's starting to
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Speaker 1: come on playing well on the practice field. His absence
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Speaker 1: has heard any idea on what his status will be
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Speaker 1: this week. You're always surprised when guys status changes on
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Speaker 1: a Thursday night game, because again, when Doug was talking
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Speaker 1: about day on last week, he talked about it in
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Speaker 1: the context. His quote was, with a short week, that's
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Speaker 1: always on their mind. It's always tough to come back
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Speaker 1: with just a couple of days to do it. He's
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Speaker 1: a rookie, uh and his stats don't say you've got
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Speaker 1: to have him on the field, but he was playing
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Speaker 1: well and that would certainly help codecast there as well.
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Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for our show this morning.
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Speaker 1: Don't forget the Jags Drive Time pull on Twitter going
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Speaker 1: all day long asking you who is your expenity player
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Speaker 1: of the game. JP and crew have at this afternoon
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Speaker 1: so you can vote all day long. We'll be back
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Speaker 1: tomorrow with another edition, only three this week for us.
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Speaker 1: John will be back with us on Wednesday. Have a
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Speaker 1: great day, everybody,