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The Industry Is Shifting (Sherri Speaks on Show Cancellation and J Cole Fall Off Album) · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: So that's what my days have been giving these last
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  Speaker 1: like this last week. I've been preparing for this week
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  Speaker 1: staying up to date with work in the news and
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  Speaker 1: all the things are tedious, but also I gotta get
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  Speaker 1: So you will be hearing a lot of that on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast this week, prayerfully as we are rgped and
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  Speaker 1: confirmed for various events. Now getting on into the latest
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  Speaker 1: speaking of you know, just being outside and things and events,
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  Speaker 1: things that are happening.
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  Speaker 2: Sarry Shepherd, we talked about Shery Shepherd's show and the
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  Speaker 2: fact that it was announced that it was canceled after
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  Speaker 2: four seasons. Now at the same time, Kelly Clarkson, who.
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  Speaker 1: You know, has been on air longer than Sherry Shepherd,
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  Speaker 1: she was on air for seven seasons.
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  Speaker 2: It was also announced that her show will no longer
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  Speaker 2: be moving forward. And in a previous episode, you guys
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  Speaker 2: can go back and check that out.
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  Speaker 1: I talk to you guys a bit about the fact
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  Speaker 1: that Kelly Clarkson had mentioned not even mentioned, but there
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  Speaker 1: were reports and it had been ruined and I'd actually
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  Speaker 1: heard some time ago when Kelly Clarkson's ex husband gotten sick.
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  Speaker 1: He got sick from cancer, God bless it. So he
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  Speaker 1: later passed away from cancer. It was the conversation then
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  Speaker 1: that Kelly Clarkson might be taking a step back from
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  Speaker 1: her talk show, and we talked about this at the
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  Speaker 1: time and several times because there were noticeable absences from
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  Speaker 1: the show. So there were reports that like she just
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to do it anymore. There are reports that
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  Speaker 1: like she just wasn't happy with her situation in her show.
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  Speaker 1: And then things came to hit the surface and the
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  Speaker 1: conversation and what was actually confirmed when she talked about
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  Speaker 1: it was the fact that because her ex husband was sick,
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  Speaker 1: who you know, she shares children with, she needed to
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  Speaker 1: kind of like take a step back for a bit
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  Speaker 1: and focus on family, and then she returned to her show. Now,
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  Speaker 1: when Kelly Clarkson's announcement was made about her show, this.
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  Speaker 2: Was in a different tone. She was able to own
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  Speaker 2: it a bit more. You know.
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  Speaker 1: Again, there's already been previous reporting about why she decided
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  Speaker 1: to step back, but she was able to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that as well. With Shary Shepard, it just felt like
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  Speaker 1: we got a blanket variety, you know, something in the trades.
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  Speaker 1: The trades are are the media outlets that announced like
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  Speaker 1: news about.
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  Speaker 2: New shows, deals and business.
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  Speaker 1: Right, all we got was, Okay, the show is going
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  Speaker 1: to be canceled because daytime talk show is going in
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  Speaker 1: a different space. Cherry has been doing this for four seasons.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a company that produces the show. Thank you guys
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  Speaker 1: for tuning in. We'll let you know when the.
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  Speaker 2: Last day is. And that was it.
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  Speaker 1: And I know from you know, doing our research for
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  Speaker 1: another Sherry Shepherd's show. The story that we had did
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  Speaker 1: because there were some conversations around Shary's ratings plumbing months ago,
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  Speaker 1: and when I did some digging and talked to some
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  Speaker 1: folks and you know, just wanted to get, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some information that we could reference while talking about this,
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  Speaker 1: I was told that Sherry Shepard and Timor Hall are
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  Speaker 1: doing amazing in the talk show space ratings wise. So
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  Speaker 1: I was very confused when I saw this news. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm still confused, to be honest, because Shery Shepherd talked
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  Speaker 1: about it on her show today. She just got back
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  Speaker 1: from COVID leave. And still I think that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's something missing.
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  Speaker 2: We need some more information. Let's take a listen, Michelle,
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  Speaker 2: this is a.
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  Speaker 3: Hard morning for all of us here, as Sherry and
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  Speaker 3: I know that you have seen the news and I'm
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  Speaker 3: ready to address it. Our show has not been renewed
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  Speaker 3: for another season, and I want to say to y'all everybody,
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  Speaker 3: y'all try not to paint or fall out because healthcare
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  Speaker 3: is expensive and none of us have it anymore, So
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  Speaker 3: y'all don't fall out. But I have to say, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and thinking about it, I'm truly overwhelmed by the outpouring
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  Speaker 3: of love that I have received from all of you,
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  Speaker 3: So from the audience, to everybody on social media, to
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  Speaker 3: people who stop me in the store and still talk
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  Speaker 3: to me despite me not having a wig on, they
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  Speaker 3: still talk to me. From the emails and the text
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  Speaker 3: the messages, I feel every bit of the love that
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  Speaker 3: you've been sending to me, and thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean we hear her say like, Okay, this
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  Speaker 1: is gonna look different. We're going into different space, different direction.
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  Speaker 1: And that has been the conversation. It's like, does the
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  Speaker 1: regular everyday podcast format even make money anymore because you
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  Speaker 1: need a full staff and you can do podcasts for
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  Speaker 1: way less and wait, let's overhead, And honestly, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds to me like Sherry maybe is.
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  Speaker 2: Thinking along that lane of things, but we don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't get.
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  Speaker 1: It in that clip in her conversation this morning about
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  Speaker 1: on the show. So there's a lot more questions to
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  Speaker 1: be asked here and a lot more to discover. But
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  Speaker 1: we finally got to hear from Sherry finally, and I thought,
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  Speaker 1: you know, of course, that is worth taking a moment for.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: In other news, speaking of fans and you know, conversations
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  Speaker 1: and shows, Jake Cole was outside with the fans okay,
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  Speaker 1: because he recently dropped what was supposed to be his
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  Speaker 1: last album to fall off. So over the weekend he
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  Speaker 1: was in North Carolina during a listening party and he
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  Speaker 1: announced that he was going to be doing a trunk tour,
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  Speaker 1: which is where he's going to be riding around.
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  Speaker 2: These different places in this Santa Civic.
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  Speaker 1: You know, just going back to like how it all
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  Speaker 1: started for him and selling CDs out of his trunk.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I'm not mad at it.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like for the type of album that Jake
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  Speaker 1: Cole just delivered, where it was very much rooted in
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  Speaker 1: where he was from his roots, his come up after
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  Speaker 1: coming up, his ability to sustain after coming up, his
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  Speaker 1: mental through different phases of the come up, and being
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  Speaker 1: on top and having success but still staying planted in
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  Speaker 1: you know, his roots from the Carolinas. I'm like, this
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  Speaker 1: is a time for him, Like you gotta finish what
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  Speaker 1: you said, like finish as you started. I'm not mad
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  Speaker 1: at that, but I did see people having conversations about
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  Speaker 1: this and about the fact that they felt like he
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  Speaker 1: was like placating to his fans by getting in the
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  Speaker 1: Honda Civic pulling up, and I'm like, what.
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  Speaker 2: Else do you want from these people?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: One thing that I thought was so fire because I
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  Speaker 2: felt like.
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  Speaker 1: Hbc used and the conversation abound HBCUs there is there
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  Speaker 1: is It's so trendy now, like it is so cool
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  Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, I wrapped this HBCU, I'm a
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  Speaker 1: part of this Greek organization, or for artists to say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing something with this HBCU.
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  Speaker 2: But it wasn't always that way.
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  Speaker 1: But I think for artists who really were out here
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  Speaker 1: having to get it out the mud, not just living
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  Speaker 1: off of viral moments and oshead to the viral art
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  Speaker 1: TikTok artists who you know, get it off the gram
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  Speaker 1: or to TikTok. But for artists like j Cole And
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention why Lea, because I remember being at
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  Speaker 1: Delaware State University. I fell in love with artists who
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  Speaker 1: were new first on my college campus, and I used
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  Speaker 1: to I used to go down south a lot to
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  Speaker 1: the Carolina to Benedict because I was dating somebody at
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  Speaker 1: the time that was going to that.
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  Speaker 2: School and just being in those parties and hearing the
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  Speaker 2: music that they were.
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  Speaker 1: Playing at homecoming and even comparing that experience to the
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  Speaker 1: homecoming that I was experiencing in Dover. More up north
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  Speaker 1: where you have New York is a heavy population at
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  Speaker 1: my school, New Jersey, the DMV as well Philadelphia, Like
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  Speaker 1: we really got to see some of these artists in
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  Speaker 1: the birth of what was their greatness because they were
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  Speaker 1: outside on the campuses performing at the I remember Meek
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  Speaker 1: king to Delle State, and this is early meet meal days,
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  Speaker 1: and I'd already been, you know, a meat meal supporter
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  Speaker 1: early on because I'm from Delaware, which is like fifteen
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  Speaker 1: to ten minutes. Ten minutes is crazy. It's like fifteen
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  Speaker 1: to twenty minutes from Delaware. So we've been supporting him
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  Speaker 1: for a very long time. But I remember Meek went
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  Speaker 1: to Dell State and did. Like I think it was
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  Speaker 1: like a dollar concerts, two dollar concerts at the time
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  Speaker 1: for the students. I also remember seeing Meek and going
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  Speaker 1: back to mention in Yla on stage for the first time.
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  Speaker 2: When they were with MGM and MGM MMG, And.
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  Speaker 1: That was the first time that I'd ever seen Wila
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  Speaker 1: like in person, and like I heard of Wala and
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  Speaker 1: heard his music and Lotus flower Bomb was so big
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  Speaker 1: on our campus, but I didn't really know who he was.
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  Speaker 2: I never heard of him.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really know too much about music from you know,
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  Speaker 1: DC or especially not African music at the time. And
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  Speaker 1: seeing him on stage with Grass and seeing the chemistry
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  Speaker 1: between him and Meek and hearing a song in person
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  Speaker 1: and hearing you know, seeing like even the dancing that
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  Speaker 1: people were doing, what he would perform like the people
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  Speaker 1: from DC just all that culture that was like the
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  Speaker 1: best way to sell an artist or product period for me.
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  Speaker 1: Like I always tell people that are trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: out anything in entertainment, I'm like, yo, are you connected
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  Speaker 1: with the HBC using her area because they make things
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  Speaker 1: hot like hbtus culturally push what's hot, just how like
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  Speaker 1: we talk about like black people and black women.
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  Speaker 2: How we you know, we are taste. We push taste,
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  Speaker 2: We let you know what's cool.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why hip hop. I don't care what i'mber
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  Speaker 1: saying when people talk about what's on the chart tonight,
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  Speaker 1: hip hop will always be the leading genre in the
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  Speaker 1: pop And you talk about pop culture, popular culture, because
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  Speaker 1: so much of what is cool, what sounds good, what
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  Speaker 1: other sounds are derived off of, come from us, not
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  Speaker 1: even just hip hop.
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  Speaker 2: I mean us in a pop space, us in the
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  Speaker 2: jazz space. Y'all know, there's a whole look, it's black history. Man,
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  Speaker 2: I ain't gotta give y'all a lesson. But C NJ.
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  Speaker 1: Cole on the campus of North Carolina and T I
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  Speaker 1: was like, man, this is fire. It's fire to see,
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  Speaker 1: and it's fire because I think it's It shows you
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  Speaker 1: how connected to.
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  Speaker 2: His core and to who he is he still is
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  Speaker 2: in it.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like, you know, like on this project, with this
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  Speaker 1: twenty nine and this thirty nine, because it's broken up
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  Speaker 1: into two parts. One of the things that I think
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  Speaker 1: is so dope to hear him kind of battle between
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  Speaker 1: is like having success, amassing success, but still trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out who you are within all of it. And
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  Speaker 1: still trying to say connected to like who you were
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  Speaker 1: before all of it, even.
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  Speaker 2: Though a part of you has to die and change.
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  Speaker 2: What does that look like? And how does it change
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  Speaker 2: who you're inspired by? What you're hearing them say? Why
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  Speaker 2: are you hearing them say it? Like?
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  Speaker 1: He talks a lot about like the older artists, and
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  Speaker 1: older artists at this point me into like, I mean
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  Speaker 1: some of them flat out says and some of the
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  Speaker 1: music like some of them have like almost like lost
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  Speaker 1: their way. And you can tell that there is such
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  Speaker 1: a fight for him not to be one of those
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  Speaker 1: artists who is like not understanding that the times are changing,
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  Speaker 1: but not losing their way. And the best way to
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  Speaker 1: do that is to put your feet on the ground
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  Speaker 1: where you're from. Put you literally put your feet in
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  Speaker 1: the grass back at home, and that's what he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: So to see him at North Carolina ante and then
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  Speaker 1: he's talking about one of the first physical copies of
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  Speaker 1: a project he ever sold was on North Carolina Antie's campus.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it was fired.
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  Speaker 1: So I couldn't believe when I was seeing fans complaining
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  Speaker 1: about the way he was going about this rollout, I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: if he was doing anything else right now, it would
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  Speaker 1: so not be Ja Cole, like he is literally like
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  Speaker 1: man of the people, like outside man of the people,
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  Speaker 1: literally on the bike sometimes, especially here in New York.
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  Speaker 1: I've been playing since multiple times, but I've not I
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  Speaker 1: didn't see Jay Cole on the bike. I do know
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  Speaker 1: people who've seen him ride in his bike here in
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  Speaker 1: New York, though, but I've been out whether it's like
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  Speaker 1: lounges or restaurants or even like spots like not like clubs,
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  Speaker 1: but like kind of like lounges, places that would play
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  Speaker 1: music that are like lit shout out to Saint, a
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  Speaker 1: black owned location here in New York, J Cole, I've
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  Speaker 1: seen him frequent that spot a lot of times, and
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  Speaker 1: I think a part of it is, I mean, these
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  Speaker 1: celebrities are human, dug guys. But also it's just I
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  Speaker 1: think for some artists, they're art doesn't work unless their
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  Speaker 1: humanity does too.
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  Speaker 2: And J Cole is one of those artists.
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  Speaker 1: So I have no problem with the Trump tour. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's fire what he's doing. I saw a really
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  Speaker 1: good first week out number for him with the Spotify streams.
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  Speaker 2: Let me see if I could look it up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so chart data which is a it's an account
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  Speaker 1: that I follow on X they tweet out like first
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  Speaker 1: week sales and stream numbers and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: So two days ago they tweeted j Cole Is.
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  Speaker 1: The fall Off earned thirty five point two million streams
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  Speaker 1: in its first full day of release on Spotify. This
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  Speaker 1: is the second biggest album debut of twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 1: so far, and I think, of course it's because the
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  Speaker 1: music was so long awaited. People wanted to hear it
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  Speaker 1: bad like people wanted to hear j Cole Baden and
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  Speaker 1: hear how he was going out.
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  Speaker 2: Now, whether you love what you hear, you feel like
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  Speaker 2: you know he.
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  Speaker 1: Nailed how he should bow out of this or not,
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  Speaker 1: that's something y'all to argue about. Y'all can get in
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  Speaker 1: the streets, get into tweets and let me hear from
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  Speaker 1: y'all one and the rows everywhere. Do you feel like
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  Speaker 1: this was the best way for Cole to sign off
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  Speaker 1: his pen with the fall Off album? But regardless of
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  Speaker 1: what we think that people are listening, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: Jake Cole. I don't white people do it at the
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  Speaker 1: Jake Cole and make it seem like because he decided
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  Speaker 1: not to engage in a rat battle. He's not Ja Cole.
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  Speaker 1: And people do it to Drake too because he didn't
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  Speaker 1: win the rat battle. He's not Drake Man. These artists
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  Speaker 1: have been working for a really long time and have
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  Speaker 1: built a really strong cord and j Cole is is
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  Speaker 1: he one of them and he knows.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly how to touch his people. So please when you're
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  Speaker 2: pulling up in the high to see it, get out
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  Speaker 2: the way.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and what I loved was the natural content that
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  Speaker 1: was coming out of him just being outside.
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  Speaker 2: He was in a parking.
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  Speaker 1: Garage just having a conversation with a fan about Dreamville
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  Speaker 1: Festival and end up telling her Dreamville Festival might not
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  Speaker 1: be over because we were.
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  Speaker 2: That was supposed to be the last year. Last year.
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  Speaker 2: That's take a lot.
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  Speaker 1: So the festival was a lot.
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  Speaker 2: We feel like it was a lot cod an idea,
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  Speaker 2: but it was. It was a lot here around. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're still staying. It was just what you think about
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  Speaker 2: the name though, like like we were trying to change
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  Speaker 2: the name and he like call us something else or
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  Speaker 2: you feel like it a hit different if it's a
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  Speaker 2: different name. Do you feel it is all right?
• 16:23
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  Speaker 2: To be right here with me, my lowriders. I appreciate
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