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ConspirAsylum 3: CINEMANIA · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 1: Oh bed that are.
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  Speaker 2: M h.
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  Speaker 3: Trigger warn this podcast may include explicit content that will
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  Speaker 3: take you out of your comfort zone and make you
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  Speaker 3: question reality.
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  Speaker 4: Listener's discretion is advised. Hello, and welcome back to the
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  Speaker 4: third installment of the Conspira Asylum series. This is Cinemania.
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  Speaker 4: In this episode, we're gonna be as we hinted around
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  Speaker 4: in the last two episodes, talking about all of the
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  Speaker 4: pop culture and our favorite picks for mental.
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  Speaker 5: Illness in cinema and television. Yeah, I mean get we're
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  Speaker 5: doing five movies each. Hopefully we don't get carried away
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  Speaker 5: talking about each one or this will be a long
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  Speaker 5: ass episode.
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  Speaker 4: There's so much to say about each.
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  Speaker 5: One, though, I guess so if we take twenty minutes
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  Speaker 5: on each one, that's going to be a three hour
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  Speaker 5: episode and then some Well.
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  Speaker 4: I will say that we both recently rewatched American Horror
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  Speaker 4: Story Season two asylum.
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  Speaker 5: Best season in my opinion, in.
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  Speaker 4: Your opinion, man, And we just finished watching Girl Interrupted
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  Speaker 4: millionth time for me, second time.
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  Speaker 5: For you or third. Maybe I dated a girl in
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  Speaker 5: high school who really liked it. I know I watched
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  Speaker 5: it once with her, probably maybe another time, but I
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  Speaker 5: didn't really remember a lot of it. So we also
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  Speaker 5: watched Memento. Oh yeah, so Girl Interrupted as one of
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  Speaker 5: Julia's picks, and Memento is one of mine, And they're
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  Speaker 5: definitely on the different ends of the style of film
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  Speaker 5: that they are. One of them's really intense and fast paced,
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  Speaker 5: and the other ones kind of just a long drawn
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  Speaker 5: out tale of your old, typical post teen girl going
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  Speaker 5: a little Nutso yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But there's more to it, which I will discuss when
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  Speaker 4: we get into We didn't really talk about who's gonna
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  Speaker 4: go first or what all, but in my notes, I
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  Speaker 4: also had that I wanted to kind of touch on
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  Speaker 4: the fact that while I was watching American Horror Story,
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  Speaker 4: it occurred to me that when mental illness is portrayed
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  Speaker 4: in shows and movies, it almost has like this paranormal vibe,
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  Speaker 4: doesn't it to you.
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  Speaker 5: Like, well, if it occurred to you while you were
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  Speaker 5: watching American Horse Story Asylum, that's because it is.
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  Speaker 4: Well, even when Girl Interrupted, it's like it's so outside
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  Speaker 4: of it's such a trip to like look through the
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  Speaker 4: eyes of a crazy person, you know, And sometimes I
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  Speaker 4: think it really does come from outside of the person themselves.
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  Speaker 4: That's the paranormal aspect to me. Like, where does it
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  Speaker 4: really come from? You know, people talk about downloads or whatever,
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  Speaker 4: is the person? Is it the person or is it
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  Speaker 4: like they've opened themselves up to something.
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  Speaker 5: Well, if you look at how I kind of if
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  Speaker 5: you look at the world the way I do, I
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  Speaker 5: would say that would fit right into it, because I
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  Speaker 5: think consciousness is pretty much everything in existence, and our
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  Speaker 5: brain or whatever you want to call our system in
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  Speaker 5: our body that does the thinking. I mean, there's more
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  Speaker 5: and more evidence all the time coming out that it's
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  Speaker 5: not just your brain that consciousness comes from. But anyway,
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  Speaker 5: the human body is an antenna that kind of breaks
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  Speaker 5: off a piece of that consciousness and isolates it. Now,
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  Speaker 5: maybe some people's antennas are a little bent, or maybe
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  Speaker 5: they're turned in a different direction that they're picking up
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  Speaker 5: some of those extra channels.
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  Speaker 4: Right, It's like, why do homeless people how are they
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  Speaker 4: able to wear a long sleeve shirt on one hundred
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  Speaker 4: degree day? Why are homeless people able to you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: You think that makes them mentally ill?
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  Speaker 4: It makes them supernatural? Okay, well, yeah, you pass a
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  Speaker 4: homeless person on one hundred degree day wearing a fucking
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  Speaker 4: long sleeve shirt in fucking jeans.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we talk about all the time, and I think
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  Speaker 5: that's more to do with living outside and what you're living. No, seriously,
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  Speaker 5: I mean there's people that live out in the woods
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  Speaker 5: and they dress like that no matter how hot it is.
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  Speaker 5: I mean I know a lot of people like that.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's like you pass a homeless guy's like,
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  Speaker 4: how do you have flee sa on right now?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 4: It's like they're not even existing on our same plane
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  Speaker 4: of reality.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know that guy that you alluded to in
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  Speaker 5: the beginning of episode one, you were talking about the
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  Speaker 5: homeless guy, the one that inspired this series because our
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  Speaker 5: whole conversation started around him. But he was a guy
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  Speaker 5: that was notorious around Ashland, Oregon, and it didn't matter temperature,
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  Speaker 5: time of year, he always had on the same winter coat.
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  Speaker 4: And tell me that's not paranormal to you.
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  Speaker 5: Supernatural, I think you could condition your body to do
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  Speaker 5: a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Especially if you got like a host of demon spirits
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  Speaker 4: living in you.
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  Speaker 5: All right, So yeah, if do you want to get
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  Speaker 5: into asylum, because it is to me one of those
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  Speaker 5: seasons of a show that just kind of throws everything
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  Speaker 5: that I'm interested in. I mean, not so much the
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  Speaker 5: alien aspect of the show. And for those of you
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  Speaker 5: who haven't seen it, I mean, I do imagine there'll
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  Speaker 5: be spoilers.
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  Speaker 4: If if anybody listening to this hasn't watched it, you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna want to by the end of this conversation. But yeah, spoilers,
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  Speaker 4: because I'm gonna we're gonna talk about it all.
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  Speaker 5: There's no God, not God. WoT the things I saw?
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  Speaker 5: Monsters a heal.
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  Speaker 2: My editor knows.
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  Speaker 4: I came here to write a story, and boy do
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  Speaker 4: I have a great scoop for him. Now, you gonta
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  Speaker 4: get out of here. With or without you, we could
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  Speaker 4: help each other.
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  Speaker 5: Here's the thing, Light, You don't belong here. I believe
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  Speaker 5: I can help you. Julius, right about you, you're a monster.
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  Speaker 6: Why do you look for the speck of sawdust in
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  Speaker 6: your brother's eye?
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  Speaker 5: Pay no attention to the plank.
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  Speaker 6: In your own Devil doesn't reside in him, mister Walker,
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  Speaker 6: He lives right here inside those beautiful grains.
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  Speaker 7: Just remember, if you look in the face of evil,
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  Speaker 7: Evil's gonna look right back at you.
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  Speaker 5: Well. The whole thing starts with an alien abduction slash
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  Speaker 5: encounter that one of the main characters goes through he's
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  Speaker 5: part of an interracial couple in what like the late fifties.
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  Speaker 5: When was this supposed to be taking place?
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  Speaker 4: Fifties?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, it says sixty four.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 5: This character experiences an alien abduction and he gets linked
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  Speaker 5: in with this serial killer that's ravaging the what northeast
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  Speaker 5: portion of the country, and he's known to skin people
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  Speaker 5: live and has some kind of mother infatuation. But it
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  Speaker 5: ends up being that should we just say.
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  Speaker 4: It, Well, yeah, you can just say it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, one of the head shrinks that works in
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  Speaker 5: tandem with the psych word is not I wouldn't say he.
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  Speaker 5: I think he comes off as a really good guy
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  Speaker 5: for the first few episodes, and then you kind of
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  Speaker 5: see he's really wanting this other character to confess to
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  Speaker 5: being this person. He even kind of conditions him in
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  Speaker 5: a way, and then it just kind of unfolds into
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  Speaker 5: a whole bunch of other stuff. The aspects of the
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  Speaker 5: asylum in it are really noteworthy. It's just everything we've
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  Speaker 5: talked about, and then with some Nazi shit thrown in.
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  Speaker 4: It, right, I was gonna say to it to really
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  Speaker 4: encompass everything, they're serial killers.
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  Speaker 5: Psychiatrists, a paper clip, fucking guy doing experiments.
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  Speaker 4: Fucking Nazi guy doing experiments in the basement.
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  Speaker 5: On insane on patient.
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  Speaker 4: On insane patience. He actually does a little botomy on someone.
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  Speaker 5: The kind that you were talking, the Walter kind, the
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  Speaker 5: Walter method.
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  Speaker 4: It's got paranormal, spiritual, there's a demon possession.
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  Speaker 5: There is m K.
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  Speaker 4: In my opinion, they do this inversion therapy to try
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  Speaker 4: to cure gayness, where you have to jack a dude's
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  Speaker 4: dick off and then puke in a bucket. I mean
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  Speaker 4: it literally happens first.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's almost like, uh, clockwork Orange, which that older
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  Speaker 5: eyes open. That would be an honorable mention that we'll
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  Speaker 5: probably at least discuss. But I would say that the
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  Speaker 5: way they made her sick while she was watching stuff
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  Speaker 5: that she enjoyed and and Clockwork Orange, it was ultra violence.
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  Speaker 5: They were showing him, you know, footage of the kind
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  Speaker 5: of crimes that he got pleasure from, much as what
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  Speaker 5: they do with what's her name, what they do with
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  Speaker 5: Lana Banana. They show her lesbian porn and give her
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  Speaker 5: something to induce like really insane amounts of nausea. And yeah,
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  Speaker 5: there's all sorts of stuff in there, and you get
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  Speaker 5: generational trauma with the the serial killer, Bloody Face's son,
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  Speaker 5: who he.
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  Speaker 4: Is a psychiatrist. What do you mean bloody Face is
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  Speaker 4: a psychiatry right? But the Sun, No, the Sun's just retard.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, And we won't spoil everything, but I
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  Speaker 5: would just say that for me wrapping it up, I
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  Speaker 5: think you probably have a lot more to say. I
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  Speaker 5: would just say it was a pretty good conspiratorial And
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  Speaker 5: I was telling Julia, if they would have thought of
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  Speaker 5: the name conspirasylum like we did, it would have been
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  Speaker 5: in a goddamn good name because every conspiracy that you
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  Speaker 5: could think of, it's like, you know, not all of them,
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  Speaker 5: but a good majority of them, big majority of tight
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  Speaker 5: in there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So the first time I watched that season, I
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  Speaker 4: was like, ah, fuck, it's a mental asylum, fucking season.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna like it because it just triggers me
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  Speaker 4: when I watch stuff like that. And I watched it
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  Speaker 4: maybe three times on my own. This is probably the
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  Speaker 4: fourth time I've watched it all the way through. And
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  Speaker 4: if you if you're watching it looking for the conspiratorial
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  Speaker 4: stuff and not just trying to enjoy it as a show,
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  Speaker 4: there is a lot in there and even the uh
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  Speaker 4: the Nazi guy doctor yeah, Doctor Arden.
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  Speaker 5: They plaid by the guy that says, pig, let's go.
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  Speaker 5: The guy from Big and Green Mile.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna say to me, he's the guy from
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  Speaker 4: Green Mile and always will be.
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  Speaker 5: Is his name? James Cromwell, the actor. He did a
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  Speaker 5: goddamn good job. Yeah, that's him anyway. Sorry to cut you.
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  Speaker 4: Off, but uh, they use the term project paper clip.
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  Speaker 5: They actually do say it at one point.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's truly say it. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: a whole lot about the guys who write this stuff
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  Speaker 4: for American Horror Story. I knew that they knew something
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  Speaker 4: when I watched season one Murder House because of the
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  Speaker 4: amount of shit that they put in there that it's like,
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  Speaker 4: how do they know that?
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's one thing about every American Horror Story season.
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  Speaker 5: It's just too fucking on the nose with it's so much,
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  Speaker 5: and it's like the stuff that used to be more
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  Speaker 5: taboo to talk about, and then once it has slipped
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  Speaker 5: into the conspiracies. I guist whoever is influencing these bigger
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  Speaker 5: shows that are just shoved down our throats. Even American
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  Speaker 5: Horse Story followed Glee. These two dudes made Glee, which
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  Speaker 5: is not anything I've ever set through more than thirty
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  Speaker 5: seconds at a time, maybe walking through a room, but
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  Speaker 5: as far as I know, it's like a musical and
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  Speaker 5: a kind of a high school set. He never fucking
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  Speaker 5: watched that, No, but yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm obsessed with American horror Story. Isn't that crazy?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? But it's their world's apart and these What I'm
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  Speaker 5: saying is these guys struck gold with this Glee show,
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  Speaker 5: and then the next thing they do is American horse Story,
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  Speaker 5: and it's just like, how the fuck did you go
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  Speaker 5: from that to that? I mean, once you get that
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  Speaker 5: mainstream success and then you're making this heavily conspiracy laden
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  Speaker 5: series about every fucking season is a whole new story,
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  Speaker 5: and it's just I mean, by the time you get
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  Speaker 5: to the one with Lady Gaga Hotel, Yeah, it's just like,
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  Speaker 5: Jesus Christ, what are they not going to say with you?
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  Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna say, is like when I
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  Speaker 4: watch Murder House, I was like, well, what the fuck
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  Speaker 4: because they put so much stuff in there? And then
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  Speaker 4: when I watched Asylum this last time, it's like, why
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  Speaker 4: don't they just come out and spell it for you.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if there's that much in Kevin, but
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  Speaker 4: it is my favorite season. Anyways. I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 4: close to the end of Asylum, the one chick is
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  Speaker 4: talking about, Oh, they're gonna make a movie based on
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  Speaker 4: my documentary or my book or whatever, and she said
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  Speaker 4: she wants Tuesday Well to play her. Did that not
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  Speaker 4: seem random to you?
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  Speaker 5: Did it seem random? Yeah to you, No, not after
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  Speaker 5: listening you talk about Tuesday Well, if you didn't know.
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  Speaker 4: Who she was and you just heard that name who
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  Speaker 4: that was?
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  Speaker 5: Not if you didn't know, I mean, how many people
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  Speaker 5: have either dove down the Tuesday Weld rabbit hole or
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  Speaker 5: had the privilege of marrying somebody who did. I don't
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  Speaker 5: honestly know. If it wasn't for you, if she's ever
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  Speaker 5: somebody I would have looked into. I mean, yeah, she
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  Speaker 5: turns up in all of these weird places that you
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  Speaker 5: can see in daylight. But I never would have thought, well,
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  Speaker 5: let's connect those dots like you did. So, yeah, it
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  Speaker 5: would seem random to nine out of ten people watching this.
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  Speaker 4: Well, for me, it was like, of all the people
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  Speaker 4: she could have said to play her.
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  Speaker 5: And if it weren't, if it was just some conspiracy candy.
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  Speaker 5: They could have said like Marilyn Monroe or something, but
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  Speaker 5: she would have been dead by then though, right, she
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  Speaker 5: died in sixty two.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe she literally could have said any of the popular Tuesday.
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  Speaker 5: Well was not like she's not a starlet like a
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  Speaker 5: lot of like she could have said. It would have
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  Speaker 5: been like today if she would have said, I want
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  Speaker 5: to get played by who I don't know, like a
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  Speaker 5: third rate actress Rihanna.
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  Speaker 4: Well, no, she's oh you're saying if she like an
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  Speaker 4: example of day World. Oh, it would be like literally saying, uh,
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  Speaker 4: Lily Raby is.
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  Speaker 5: Just play Lily Raby.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know how to say her last name.
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  Speaker 5: Well that for people, that's that's the actress that portrayed
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  Speaker 5: Sister Mary Eunice in this Asylum too. But yeah, anyway,
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  Speaker 5: we're going off on a Tuesday World tangent. But it
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  Speaker 5: is a good point because, yeah, your hackles go up
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  Speaker 5: once you've done some Laurel Canyon slash Tuesday World research
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  Speaker 5: that they would have picked that name. But I mean,
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  Speaker 5: there's so much in this there.
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  Speaker 4: Also, when she goes back to the asylum and she's
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  Speaker 4: got like that film crew with her. She says, verbatim
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  Speaker 4: a line from the Heraldo.
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  Speaker 5: Rivera expos Right, and she so this uh Atlanta character,
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  Speaker 5: Lanta Winters, who by the end of the series is
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  Speaker 5: a cutthroat author who has lied her way to infamy
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  Speaker 5: as this victim, this survivor. You know, she was almost
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  Speaker 5: one of a Bloody Face's victims, was raped and impregnated.
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  Speaker 5: Now has the sun on her ass and she just
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  Speaker 5: she turns into this cutthroat bitch. And when she started,
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  Speaker 5: it was almost like she was based on that woman
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  Speaker 5: we talked about who was the undercover reporter.
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  Speaker 4: Right. You could tell they did some not some, but
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  Speaker 4: they did research into like real life scenarios to like
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  Speaker 4: include them into this.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it would be interesting to see like what
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  Speaker 5: exactly she is based on, because she is an amalgamation
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  Speaker 5: of many things. Like you said, she's even spouting Geraldo
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  Speaker 5: Rivera lines.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, that's all I had for asylum. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's all in there, literally the supernatural aspect of the
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  Speaker 4: Paranormal Extraterrestrial MK Ultra project paper clip. It's based in
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  Speaker 4: the Laurel Canyon era. I mean, it's got everything.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and this is at first I thought it was
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  Speaker 5: upstate New York. But it's not. They said at one point,
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  Speaker 5: the state of such and such absorb because it goes
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: from being a Catholic run institute to by the time
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: you know the show's about wrapped up, the state steps
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  Speaker 5: in and it just becomes this fucking violin cabinet for
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  Speaker 5: the dregs of society. And yeah, anyway, it's I think
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  Speaker 5: it's the best season. I think that as far as this,
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  Speaker 5: all of them, I've always said it was my favorite.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I'm glad you're re watching Murder House.
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  Speaker 5: I like Murder House. It's it's more up your alley
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  Speaker 5: because of your interests, and I would say season two
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  Speaker 5: is more up my alley. But they're both great. Coven
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  Speaker 5: to me was my favorite seed kind of like watching
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  Speaker 5: almost like Twilight or something.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to sell you on Coven because I
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  Speaker 4: feel like it's targeted towards women to enjoy.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, but there's a lot of very sexist.
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  Speaker 4: Well, there is a lot of like what I would
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  Speaker 4: consider to be true stuff mixed with a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of fantasy stuff.
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  Speaker 5: It's got all sorts, all right, Well, we don't need
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: to argue in front of everybody about our favorite American
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  Speaker 5: horse story series.
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  Speaker 4: I have decided to either open or close this episode
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  Speaker 4: with Tom.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: They play that shit on loop. This French mm hmm.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever kind of music you would call that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's it's iconic.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe French pop music of the bitties. Who knows.
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  Speaker 4: If you're listening to it, you belong at Briarcliff.
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  Speaker 5: All right, let's get into the movies. You first, No,
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  Speaker 5: you're going first, because we just want going. It's we're
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  Speaker 5: going in. So we we had a little draft pick
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  Speaker 5: and we're just gonna go in the order that they
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: were picked.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, what was my first pick?
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: The one, the one that is the freshest on both
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: of our minds. We literally wrapped up that movie right
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: before stepping into the recording room. In nineteen sixty nine,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: The Wild Ones went to Woodstock, The Unlucky Ones went
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: to war.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: There's something happened.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: But if you didn't know where you were going, you have.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: The distinction of being the only scene of not going
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: on to college. I don't have a plan. I just
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: don't want to end up like my mother Susanna Wis.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: They said you to Claymore.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: The best place in the world for someone like you
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: is less than a half an hour from my heart.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Welcome to Claymore's an.
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: I guess I'm puzzled as to why it does I
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: have to be in a mental institution.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Call me a cab.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Okay, you're a cab. You've chased a bottle of aspirin,
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: the bottle of vodka. I had a headache.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: But the one step. Now jam this in my order. Listen,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: your a order is in your chest. Good to know.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: What that has?
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: This leads, Oh, I don't I don't need them.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: I'm going to have a problem.
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: Look at.
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: Is there something about sex which lifts your feelings of despair?
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Have you ever had sex highs and lows? Increasingly through year?
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Lisa think she's hot because she's such a.
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: Bad I'm asociat know what you're gay?
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Uncertainty about goals and a generally pessimistic attitude are often observed.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: That's me, that's everybody. Well, this will be something that
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: if you're a long time listener to my show, you've
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: already heard me talk about in the Wizard of Oz episode,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: and a lot of people ask me to cover the
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Wizard of Oz stuff on their show. But it's been
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: so long since I recorded that episode, there's a lot
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: of I would actually have to go back and listen
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: to my Wizard of Oz. I put so much stuff
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: in there that I mean, it was like a I
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: don't know, it was way over an hour of random
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: stuff about Wizard of Oz. But Girl Interrupted ended up
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: being a big part of it. Well, I will just
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: ask you if you got anything out of it before
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: I go on my big tangent.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: I'll just I'll let you dominate this one, because I
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: wouldn't say I'm a huge fan of the movie even
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: while rewatching it years years later. I mean, we're talking
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: about half my lifetime ago that I saw this over half,
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: and I think that it it's kind of like a
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: moody time piece with some stuff thrown in there. As
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: far as the mental institution that the plot circles around,
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: it's it's like a Whoopi Goldberg, who plays the what
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: would you call her? She's not a nurse, she's like that,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: she's like basically whatever. She's the nurse ratchet of this place.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: She's so nice though, Yeah, and she's not like a
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: nurse ratchet.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Everybody calls her the inward and she just lets it
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: slide off her back like there are Milk Gibson doing
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: it and uh she she's a good character, you know,
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: kind of holds the movie together. You get to see
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Angelina Jolie at her craziest, she's basically just playing herself.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: And then you get to see some of these other
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: smaller time actors for the time of you know, Britney Murphy,
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Clea Deval and the acting is amazing. The story is
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: good and I didn't know this, but I thought it
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: might be the case it's based It's based on a
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: real story. Susanna Caseon's a real person. Did you know that?
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Uh No, But that's not got anything to do with
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: what they did with the movie. I promise you.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: I think I'm telling you my thoughts and then you're
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: gonna go on your big tangent.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: But saying I'm just saying they can take something like
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: this like it was a real girl and yeah, they
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: made a story about her life, and they would.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: Well, it's the scripts based on the memoir, so it's
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: a real story. Which is the only point I was
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: making was it seemed like it was a biographical type
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: movie when I watched it.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: But this time it's stuff in to make it not
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: une of.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Course, but the just this is just the setup. And
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: my whole point was if you want to see like
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: gnarly treatment of patience and an insane asylum like you'll
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: see in American horror story Asylum, this movie is more
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: of just like a story. But yeah, it's it's interlaced
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: with all sorts of stuff that Julia is going to
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: talk about. But on its face, I wouldn't say it's
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: a great movie. I would.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, I only now appreciate it because of my
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: conspiracy mind. So in my opinion, one of the first
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: movies ever created that was just an entire mkol for
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: a project was Wizard of Oz. Right, I think that
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: this movie is just paying homage to MK ultra through
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: references to the Wizard of Oz. And it's actually throughout
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: the entire movie. I don't know if it was in
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: a memoir or not. It would be odd if it was,
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: but they had they snuck so many Wizard of Oz
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: references into this movie.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: Well, and they're not even snuck, they're very blatant. It's
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: from the very first scene where Susannah played by wine
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: owner writer walks into it. There's ship laid all over
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: the bed right of one of the patients.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Yes, her roommate is obsessed with reading the OZ books.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: But think about this, right, Britney Murphy's cat's name.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Ruby, right, it's a her once you pay attention to
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: how often it shows up and then you see the
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: cat's names Ruby, I would I would think that one
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: would be obvious to most people. Maybe not well.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: And also yellow brick road, right, Britney Murphy, She's in
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: all yellow kitchens, all yellow.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: And then well, even when they sneak down into the tunnel,
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: that shit's lit in like a yellow hue.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah. And again, for people who have listened to
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: my podcast for a very long time, you can go
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: back and find this episode that I did all about
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: the Wizard of Oz, where I show you how it
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: was maybe the first because it was in technicolor. You
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: remember it was like the first anyways, much like Alice
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: in Wonderland, Wizard of Oz is just a big MK experiment.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: And there are so many references in this movie about
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: mental illness to Wizard of Oz. It's almost like they're
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: telling you without telling you. Mental illness and MK mind
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: control stuff are one and the same. You know what
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Well, they do go hand in hand.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Her roommate's obsessed with Wizard of Oz. She's got all
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: the books out.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: There's the play the scene. Yeah, they play the scene
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: with the it.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Is all the dream I'm leaving, bye bye.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: Everybody's crying.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: In the last scene where she's saying goodbye to her roommate.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: They even have her in like a Dorothy esque looking
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: like pull over dress thing with the shirt on underneath
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: of it. Yeah, and I think that it's just another
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I have found Wizard of Oz references in a ton
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: of movies that are There's a ton of Wizard of
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Oz references in The Shining too.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: It's latent in pop culture for sure. I mean it
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: turns up all over the place.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: But I feel like when you see it, it's a signal.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Right. Even the song Somewhere Over the Rainbow is a
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: well known trigger. Like these programmed people in Hollywood have talked.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: About that it's like through the looking glass. So when
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: for me, this movie, regardless of if it's based on
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: a true story or not, what they did when they
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: created the movie was sneak a bunch of stuff in there.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: If you want all of the examples. You can go
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: back and find my Wizard of Oz episode and listen
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: to all of it. Because I talk about the shining,
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: I talk about girl interrupted, I talk about a lot
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: of stuff. But yeah, that to me was something that
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: stuck out and I went back and rewatched it, and
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: it's like when she goes to order ice cream and
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: she says that she wants rainbow sprinkles, not chocolate, she
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: like makes that kind of you.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: Know, Yeah, the girls get taken out for an ice
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: cream and everything goes to shit, but she's seducing the
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: young man at the counter.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, to me, it was just like one of those
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: things where they've already put a bunch of Wizard of
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Oz stuff and then when they go get ice cream,
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: she's like rainbow not chocolate. Like she makes a point
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: to say, there's just little stuff sprinkled.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Well, what would you say? Obviously, Susannah would be Dorothy
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: uh Lisa portrayed by Angelina. She would be the one
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: without a heart. She's constantly I think she.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Would be the Wicked Witch of the West, No, or
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: maybe even Glinda.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: She has no heart, but.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: The Scarecrow gains a heart and she doesn't.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: Is it the tin man that doesn't have a heart,
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: Scarecrow doesn't have a brain.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Scarecrow doesn't have a brain.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: And obviously the compulsive liar, she lacks courage. I mean,
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: I don't know. This analysis is just being pulled out
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: of my ass. I'm really not standing by handing any
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: of this, Babs.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're on the right track. I think that
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: they're literally trying to to tell the Wizard of Oz
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: story through m K through this person's memoir.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: So who would be the wizard telling you to look
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: behind the curtain? Would that be the don't you?
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: She called her the Great and Wonderful Doctor Wick.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: As if Wick Wizard's where's the Gomatria charts in Wizard.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Of Oz, he's called the Great and Wonderful Oz and
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: she calls her the Great and Wonderful doctor Wick. So
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: there's literally a million references to the Wizard of Oz
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: and that, oh for sure.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all over the place.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: So doctor Wick is the Wizard. I think Woopy Goldberg
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: could be Glinda.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: Who's Toto Ruby?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: No? Yeah, what not?
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: Who is the lady with the burns on her faces?
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, you get a whole ridge in these are
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: like people that probably came from well off families. What
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: he calls it a four star resort or a five
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: star resort compared to some of the state hospitals she's
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: worked out. But you get people in there who have
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: tried to commit suicide, people with eating disorders, and it's
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: it's you know, not co ed.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: It's really strictly he's getting raped by her dad.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and Angelina tells her that she liked it, so
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: she killed herself. I mean, there's some moments in this
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: movie where I'm thinking they're definitely paying some homage to
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Once Flew Over the Cuckoo's Net.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and she would be more of the RP. McMurtry
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: or is it McMurtry or McMurphy, McMurphy, McMurphy, it would
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: be I think Angelina would be Jack Nicholson. I don't know.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Which.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: We'll get to that one. Don't worry, that's gonna that's
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: the last one on my list to talk about it.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: I think it might be the last one we talked about.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: Well we can move on then.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but just saying do you see, I mean I'm
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: not stretched in here, right, you see what I'm talking
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: about with the of course.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, no, definitely, it's could you.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Appreciate the movie a little bit differently with that in mind?
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: I mean I had it in mind, oh when we
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: watched it this time, because you kept pointing it out
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: every time it came up. Yeah, so yeah, I'm talking
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: about just as an overall cinematic experience. I just never
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: even when I watched it when it first came out,
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: I just never thought it was like a five star movie.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Since we're on just the second one right now, I
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: do think we should end it with one to ten kops.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: I'd give Girl Interrupted six kicks out of.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Ten, American Horror Story.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Asylum eleven out of ten.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: I'm giving American.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: I'm allowed to give it an eleven out of ten.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll do ten out of ten kicks for Asylum.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: But you tell me I'm crazy for that being my
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: favorite series you're giving anything.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: I'm not rating it based on the other the other seasons.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: I'm just rating.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: So it's got a perfect rating.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: So you an Covin has twenty out of.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: Tin, can't go above eleven like spinal Taps.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: It's eleven Girl Interrupted just for the weird MK Wizard
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: of our stuff. I'm gonna give it seven out of
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: ten kokes.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Oh so it's you're only slightly higher than my rating.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: I was expecting you to do a higher one. All right, Well,
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: next up, we have my first pick, which is fight Club.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: I want you to hit me as hard as you can. Why.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: How much can you know about yourself? You've never been
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: in a fight. Wait, let me start earlier. Like many
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: of you, I was stuck. You want me to deprioritize
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: my current reports. Yeah, until you guys a status upgrade.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Make these your primary reaction items.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: I couldn't sleep, No, you can't die.
• 35:58
  Speaker 10: Form inso oniah up.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: Through catalogs and wonder what kind of dining set defines
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: me as a person. This is your life and it's
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: ending one minute at a time. I prayed for a
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: different life.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Soap.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: I make the soapd and.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: This is how I'm met Tyler dirty.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Come on, hit before I lose my nerve.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Wow, hit me in the ear.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: It was on the tip of everyone's tongue.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Can I be next?
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: We just gave it a name, gentlemen, Welcome to fight Club.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: I would say it's always working its way in and
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: out of my top five favorite movies. And it's also
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: based on a novel, which the novel isn't that good
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: of a book. It's almost like Chuck Paul and Nook,
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: the author of Fight Club, writes books that would make
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: really good films in the right hand. But there's only
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: been two that I know of. Choke was the other
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: one that wasn't good, but fight Club for the nineties
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: was it was almost like watching the Matrix whoa and
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: they took an old trope, you know, oh, this guy's
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: actually the same person as this guy, and put a
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: new twist on it. But the movie really does explore
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: mental illness from like this macabre kind of And I
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: always said that David Lyncher, he almost feels industrial, like
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: that that genre of music. Which is funny too, because
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: Trent Reznor ended up being the guy that scores all
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: his movies. But he's got this, like, you know, seven
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: fight Club. He's done some lighter movies, but most of
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: the time you just feel like you're rolling around in
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: a gutter. When you watch a David Fincher movie and
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: Fight Club, you're definitely in a fucking gutter. It's like
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: that dark gutter in everybody's mind. This main character Edward
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: Norton just kind of rolls with it and programs himself
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: to believe that he's two different people. And it was
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: one of those like sixth sense kind of twists ending
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: where you just left the theater shaking your head, almost
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: wanting to go right back in and watch it all
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: over again. But for me, it just shows like this
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: character breaking down, and as he breaks down throughout the movie,
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: the hints that he is the Tyler Durden Brad Pitt character.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: I just think it's a genius way of like looking
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: at the darker side of a psyche and like what
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: a torment in mind could do if they just rolled
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: with this idea. I mean, you can go into a
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: CIA back room and be programmed to think all sorts
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: of shit, but maybe some people could just do it
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: to themselves.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Do you ever wish you could go back and watch
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: something for the first time?
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: Uh? Not really. I think that one of the things
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: I enjoy is watching a movie that I've already seen
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: that I think is amazing with somebody like you, and
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: you get to like see it vicariously, like it's almost fresh.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: But once I've seen a movie that blows my mind,
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: I just want to watch it for the second time again,
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: like really, oh yeah, because you get this like bomb
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: go off in your head with some of these films,
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: and then when you go back with already the you know,
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: the foreknoledge of what is going to be the end
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: of this movie that blew your mind, then you can
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: start like dissecting it all the hints, all the different
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: things you missed the first time.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: You never get jealous when you watch stuff like that
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: with me and I've only I'm seeing it for the
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: first time, and you're jealous. Yeah, because like sometimes I
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: wish I could go back and like watch something for
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: the first time and like get that feeling of the
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: first time I watched it.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Well, you know what if that eternal sunshine of the
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Spotless Mind technology was really you could just erase the
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: memory where you saw this movie. Well, no, you're not
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: like erasing it, No, but would you do it if
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: like you could just Okay, well, I'm giving your ways.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Here, anybody to fuck with my mind. I'm just saying
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: when you.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm letting someone hypnotize you or letting someone put
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: you under for some weird shit to your head. It's
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: just fun.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, because.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Maybe with neural ink you could do this.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: No, thank you. Uh, that was the first time I
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: had watched Fight Club.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you've only seen it once, and I was not.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: You're saying that there's little clues that he ended up
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: being I saw no clues. I was so convinced because
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: you're watching that Pitt was a separate person and was
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: not for you said, there's like clues that, oh, you
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: start putting it together that they're the same person. Not
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: all right, well I did not.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: You will watch it, maybe I'm retarded. We'll watch it
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: again within the next few months, and I will pause
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: it and show you every hint and you'll start to go,
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: holy shit, they're everywhere.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: But that's why I said, do you ever wish you
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: could watch something for the first time again? Because I'm
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: telling you it's not that obvious.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: It's not obvious the first time you watch. That's the
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: beauty of it.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: And actually I came to you weeks later trying to
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: find fucking plot holes because I was like, but wait
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: a minute, Well, when.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: You get into a movie where you're dealing with like
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: a story through the perspective of somebody who's mentally ill,
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: plot holes can be all over the place, but I
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: really don't think Fight Club has any.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Well, no, that's why I brought it to you because
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I was like, wait a second, if they're supposed to
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: be the same person, what about da da da da da?
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: And you were like no, because but anyways, Yeah, I
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: just was curious sometimes that when I'm showing you a
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: movie for the first time, I'll be like, I wonder
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: what he's thinking, like because I remember the first time
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: I watched it and loving it, or like feeling a
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: certain way, you know, like the first time I watched
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Terry Potter Best Day Ever.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: Is not your favorite movie, no, but it was.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: So magical for me because I had read all the
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: books and then it was like it were added to life.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: And how old were you when you so you were
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: the exact right aids for that because it starts at
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: a third grade reading level and then she upset so
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: she can grow up, or so that the readers to
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: the initial work can grow up with the characters.
• 42:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: So that ship came out when I was in high school,
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: and I just don't have any bone in my body
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: that's tickled by like straight up fantasy, even when it's
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: ead when it's like, and I know this for a
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: fact that she had access to all sorts of occultic
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: information because she's not just guessing. And I think that
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: aspect of it is interesting, Like who the fuck is
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: this bitch? Now She's like in this very mainstream public
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: outroar about being a transfebe and all her fucking you know,
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: the people who all present company excluded, But most people
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: who love Harry Potter and more of the costumes and
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: waited in line to see the movies have purple hair,
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: and they're all for that stuff. And well, you know,
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: she's almost like a chaos agent.
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say that's it's interesting that you say that,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: because it's very true. I mean, I did wear costumes
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: and go wait in line for midnight releases and stuff.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: People didn't grow out of that. You know, they're very
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: they're very torn on whether they can get on board
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: with the work of JK.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: And to bring it full circle, Harry Potter fans belatricks
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Lestrange is in Fight Club.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: Okay, who's the fuck's that?
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: The chicky fucks?
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Oh we're talking Helen a bottom part.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: Oh, and I would to me one of the biggest hints,
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: and people who have seen Fight Club a number of
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: times might have noticed this watching the actions of Edward
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: Norton's character, who doesn't have a name by the way,
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: is Tyler Durton you find out, but he just doesn't
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: have a name through the whole movie, but watching her
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: reaction to him when he's fucking her one minute and
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: then telling her to leave, and you know, he's fucking
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: her as Tyler Durton my house and she just like
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: looks at him and she's in love with him, obviously,
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: but she's also like putting up. But you watch this
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: movie through her eyes and it's just like, you know,
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: like she's just thrown off because he's watch he calls
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: him doctor Jekyl and mister asshole at one point or
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: something like that. But yeah, Fight Club, I, unless you
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: have anything to say, I'll let you rate it first.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Oh for mental illness, Yeah, I'm giving it ten out
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: of ten.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: Kokes Kar well obviously me too.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I maybe if I get to the end of
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: the movie and I'm genuinely shocked that's a ten out
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: of ten. Coups also because it's like they got you going.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: It's also worth note that the conspiracy stuff that sprinkled it.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: In fight Club, you get to see Project Mayhem is
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: legitimately based on many things that are real that we've
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: seen in the last few years. Supposedly the movie or
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: the book was supposed to take place in twenty twenty
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: four and like the all these collapses and you know,
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: you get I mean, the book was written in the
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: mid nineties and you hadn't seen a lot of stuff
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: specific year. Well, he's written books since that. We're even
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: more prophetic about where culture is going. And Chuck Paul
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: Nook is somebody worth looking into. JJ Vance likes to
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: talk about him and how you know. One thing to
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: mention about him is he was part of the Cacophony Society,
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: which has probably got CIA roots. If you really look
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: into it, it looks a lot like co Intel.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Pre JJ has talked about Fight Club before too.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we've talked about it when we were talking about
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: other things and it's come up.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: It's a great example of many things. Yeah, by the way,
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: if they sold it, I would definitely buy the soap.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Got it No like the real soap. Oh take fat
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: siphoned off fat ladies asses and make it into soap no,
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: you know, definitely by it because that is true what
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: they said in the movie.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I can appreciate this aspect of it. Maybe
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: a lot of people who listen to my show might
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: have heard, but I don't know if I've mentioned it
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: on here. I make soap for a living, And when
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: they steal fat from the lipel section clinic and then
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: with an ironic twist, sell these rich women they're on
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: fat asses back to them and these exquisite bars of soap.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: It's one of the best scenes too, when they're in
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: the department store and he's leaning against the counter and
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: he's freeballing it and his dressed pants are like down
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: below his dick root. I mean to me, this is
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: the greatest role Brad Pitt has ever had. Oh it's
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: not Benjamin, but no another Fincher pit Croak collaboration, I am.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: I will say as a side known, I'm excited about
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: the spinoff slash maybe sequel two. Once upon a time
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: in Hollywood that Quentin Tarantino ended up bagging because he's
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: only making one more movie and he decided to go
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: with something else. But Brad Pitt was so attached to
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: this that David Fincher was allowed to pick it up,
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: so I think it might be a Netflix thing. But
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: if you guys are Brad Pitt slash Fincher fans, and
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: it's probably going to be at least executively produced by Tarantino.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: He'll be a consultant. But the script was apparently mostly
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: already written, and hopefully we'll see at least a cameo
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: with Rick Dalton.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: I would love to see it, all.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: Right, Well, Rambling's aside. Yeah, my second pick was Donnie Darko.
• 48:06
  Speaker 11: It was as though this plan had been with him
• 48:08
  Speaker 11: all his life, pondered through the seasons, now in his
• 48:12
  Speaker 11: fifteenth year, crystallized with the pain of puberty.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: So why'd you move here?
• 48:26
  Speaker 12: My mom had to get a restraining order against my stepdad.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: He has emotional problems. Oh I have those two.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: What kind of emotional problems are to a man new friend?
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Real or imaginary? Donnie imaginary.
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: I'm going to tell you a little story today about
• 48:44
  Speaker 8: a young man whose life was completely destroyed by these
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: instruments of fear.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen stuff.
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: Donnie is experiencing what is commonly called a daylight hallucination.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: I have to obey him. He's saved my life. Have
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: you ever seen a portle? Has he ever told you
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: about his friend Frank? The giant bunny rabbit?
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: The what.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: Every living thing follows along set path? And if you
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: could see your path or channel, then you could see
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: into the future.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: Right, I'm not going to be able to continue this conversation.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Don't worry.
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: You got away with it.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: What is going to happen?
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: I only have a few days left before they catch me.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: When's it going to stop?
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: You should already know that.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: It's also another movie that Julia had not seen until recently.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: And yeah, see that's another one first time.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: For me and you never had a second time. And
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: also it's worth note that Donnie Darko was an indie movie,
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: and as often happens, once a bigger studio bought it out,
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: they made this cut that most people have seen when
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: they've seen Donnie Darko, especially if you saw it in
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: the early days. But when you watch the director's cut,
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: it's a lot less cryptic. It kind of explains the
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: whole time travel element. And so for people who haven't
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: seen this movie, they take mental illness time travel.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: It's a mind fun It's got.
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: Some mc martin element to it with the Patrick Swayze.
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: He's like a motivational speaker doing the all show. They'll
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: all light and love and in a nutshell, Donnie is
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: a troubled boy living in an upper middle class family
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: in some mountained area suburbia somewhere, and he gets visits
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: from a bunny who's like a guy in a freaky
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: bunny costume. And for those of you you've seen it,
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: will just make it quick. It tells him to do things.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: It's got like almost dark elements. You wonder if he's
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: a villain. At one point he's burning shit down. He
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: exposes this pedophile.
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: Thing is just creepy.
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I always said Richard Kelly, who directed this,
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: it was his debut. He went on to do a
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: few others. He was almost like wanting to be David Lynch.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: And I can definitely see that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: Richard. If you're out there and you happen to hear
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: this and that's not true, I apologize, but that's what
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: it looks like to me, is you were a big
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: Lynch fan. And his second movie is crazy. His third
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: movie is the one you've seen The box where if
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: you push this button, someone you don't know will die.
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: But you'll get a million bucks, probably higher than that,
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: but anyway, Yeah, that's my thoughts on Donnie Darko is
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: it's just such a It's an iconic movie in the
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: indie scene in the nineties, and then it's got a
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: pretty good cast for a movie. It's almost like Tarantino
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: in his early days pulling in all these actors for
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: Reservoir Dogs. You could see jill and Hall in his
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: like almost infancy. I mean he looked like a I
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: mean he's portraying like a sixteen year old kid or something.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: He was probably twenty five.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: He's really liked him in Zodiac.
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah. It's funny too because we sat down to watch
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: Prisoners the other night and you're like, I don't like
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: Jake Jillen Hall.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: I don't like him.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: That that's you liked him and Donny Darko, yous you
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: like him? Okay, I wasn't aware of this discrepancy. You
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: liked him in Prisoners.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: My favorite from him is Prisoners.
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the best way I liked him.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Okay, in Donnie Darko and in Zodiac, but my favorite
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: has to be Prisoners because he was so outside of
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: that weird dorky YEI Gronnie guy.
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: He played it tormented motherfucker and he was kind of buff. Well,
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: he got buff. He did that movie where he played
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: a boxer where what's his name fuck? One of the
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: best actors, Christian Bells his brother. Anyway, we're getting off
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: in the weeds. I would say Donnie Darko cult classic movie.
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: Most people have probably seen it. If you haven't watched it,
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: I would say, but yeah, close out on your thoughts
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: and we'll give this baby a rating.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Well, for me, it was obviously the first time I
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: had seen it. I did find the soundtrack, and I
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: mean the entire movie was just It's one of those
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: ones that puts you in this perpetual, weird hallucinogenic state,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: like a Lynch movie. Yeah, the imagery, the sounds, the music. Yeah,
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: it was definitely one of those. You know, was I high?
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I was pregnant yet.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we watched this within the last few months. You
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: were definitely not high.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: I wasn't high.
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: I was.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: I could have swore you gave me my head off
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: your weed. Pinch.
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: No, this is too.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: That was high.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: You don't need drugs for Donnie Darko feel weird.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: D No, but I'm gonna give it. I'll give it
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: nine out of ten. Pukes, I'll give it nine out
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: of ten.
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: Well, we're on par with that. You're giving it night,
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: I'm giving it nine out of ten. I think that
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: a movie like Donnie Darko, even when they release a
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: director's cut and try to over explain it, it's still
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: just as missing something. I don't know. It's it's not
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: like what to me. And you know, I'm being really
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: critical here because I love films and used to be
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: what I wanted to do. But I would just say
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: there's just a little something missing. But for a dude's
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: first movie that directors pretty good and for what he
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: pulled off, a nine out of ten, and I am,
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't give tens easily.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, you know, in American horror
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: story Asylum, there's all an array of different mental illness.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: It's like a candy shop. You got chronic mess, debaters
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: and you know, xyz schizophrenia, murderers, blah and girl interrupted.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: I would say she's They say she has borderline personality.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: Which is a fucking broad term, which is.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I would say like depression obviously, Brittany Murphy
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: had like incest and like self hen she.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: Was it was like a trauma victim.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: But and then we have split personality in Fight Club.
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: What Donny Darko, I mean like schizophrenia.
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: I think that's what they so in the movie he's
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: seen a it looks like maybe a privately hired shrink
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: for the sun. And it seems like when she brings
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: the parents in that she's hinting at she's afraid he's
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: slipping into schizophrenia.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: So imagine if that's what it's like to have schizophrenia,
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: I'd kill myself. Okay, if having schizophrenia makes your life,
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Donny Darko didn't take the long I.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: Know, makes you see bunnies that go hello donner burn.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: It god so creepy. I mean, think about that.
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: It wouldn't be pleasant. No, And I do know people
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: in my own family who start to slip into this
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: weird almost early dementious slash craziness. And they did men
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: shill themselves. I mean it's the Yeah, dementia isn't schizophrenia.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: But they see stuff though my grandma did. She used
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: to say, she used to tell them maybe mortifying stuff.
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: Maybe they are more connected than.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: The That's what I've always said. The psychiatric Alzheimer's too.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and Alzheimer's is a form of dementia, but schizophrenia
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: is kind of its own branch of crazy. Yeah, if
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: you ask these people, I mean, they try to like
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: branch everything off and label it and give you a
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: pill for this and a pill for that. But as
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: far as like full blown dimension and Alzheimer's, I don't
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: know that they ever medicate them or do they.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: Yes, they do. Why they medicated my grandma and my grandpa.
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: They said, my grandpa had Alzheimer's.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: But just for the dementia, Like I can imagine giving
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: them a relaxant, but like something to treat the dementia.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: They have all kinds of stuff. I'm sure if we
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: watch Hulu long enough. Obviously men did something for it.
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: Oh I did. I had a side note when we
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: were talking about girl interrupted, so just a little set
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: up Julia and I. I don't know if she's always
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: been this way, but I am this way. I hate commercials.
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: To me, the fucking extra five dollars or whatever you
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: have to play on Hulu or whatever platform using did
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: not get the commercials. But now it's like Amazon Primes
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: got them, but we had to go to Tubi to
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: watch Girl Interrupted. And it's great because it's free, but
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: the ads are like every overwhelming, and I would say
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: seventy five percent of them were like pharmacies, pharmaceutical shit.
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: And well, we saw this one called like Viklars doll
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: clar and it was Julia called it a booster for
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: other SSRIs because.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: What's called anti depressive butster.
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: What really stuck out to me was when they said
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: suicidal tendencies, especially in children or young adults. I was like,
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: first of all, why are you putting kids on this shit?
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: Secondly that you know that it fucking causes young people
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: to want to kill themselves, and then it enlisted these
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: god awful fucking side effects. It took like thirty seconds
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: to list, and they said they said it's common, these
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: are common, thanks are, And they didn't even speed it
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: up like some of them do. They're just saying it
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: in like an NPR voice and there's butterflies floating around, yeall, No,
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: the's chestnuts. Yeah. Anyway, I just thought it was very
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: fitting that we're watching Girl Interrupted and we're being interrupted
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: and bombarded with pharmaceutical commercials for people who need mental
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: fucking fixes.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: They have gone so far as to say, oh, you're
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: taking your antidepressant and it's still not working. Here's an
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: anti depress it.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: Booster boosters are fucking the new normal. Baby. Well you know,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: if you're up in Canada, they do it the right way.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: They're just like, why don't you just kill yourself? Well help?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: I just can't imagine like somebody saying, instead of trying
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: something else, we're gonna keep you on your antidepressant and
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: we're gonna add you a booster.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: Indeed, all right, Julia's second choice is as good as
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: it gets.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Oh boy, I forgot that was my second draft.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: Pick open his curtains for him so he can see
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: God's beautiful work and he'll know that even things like
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: this happen for the best.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: What do they teach you to talk like this?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 13: In some Panama City sailor want to hump hump bar
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 13: sell crazy someplace else?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: We're all stocked up here.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 13: Try Star Pictures invites you to meet a truly appalling individual.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: He's a freak show.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: He's the worst person I ever met.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 13: If you want to you want to make an appointment
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 13: doctor Green, How can you diagnose someone as an obsessive
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 13: compulsive disorder, and then act as though I had some
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 13: choice about Barginghi, you have.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: Messed your last floor.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: You have you seen my dog with a little little
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: face little uh oh?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: You have no idea what your work means to me?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: How do you write women so well?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 13: I think of a man and I take away reason
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 13: and accountability.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Shut up, kid.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 9: Definitely a package you don't want to open or touch.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: I love you, I tell you, buddy, I'd be the
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: luckiest guy alive if that did it for me as
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: good as it gets.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: So this one is kind of on the lighter side
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: of mental illness in my opinion, because you don't have
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: to be locked up somewhere if you have OCD y
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: lucky for you and right. I have, always since I
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: was a kid, struggled with obsessive tendencies.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: I think it's common more and more as time goes by,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: because our society is so loud and overwhelming and demanding
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: of your attention at all times. So I do think
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: that normal people will get a little obsessive of having
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: to live in are ever technologically expanding, fucking society, which
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: makes me really worried about kids today.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: It makes me worried because if if our baby is
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: anything like me, I'm gonna know, like if he has
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: like ticks what are they called ticks.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: Like Jack Nicholson in this movie.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of it'll be sad because I know
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: how how it felt when I was little, like I
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: always had to have some sense of control over my environment.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: But maybe that's because I had a psychopath for a father,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: but I always felt like I needed to have a
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: little bit of control over my surroundings.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you went on Deplorable Janet, Yeah, Deplorable Nation,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: shout out Janet, we love you. You went on her show,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: and she actually said that to you, like, you know,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: you had to control your situation with the way you're
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: brought up, lack of guidance, lack of an adult presence,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: and then like just there's so much else going on
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: that can add to that once the foundation is laid.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: But I would say it's definitely common a lot of
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: anxiety and obsessive traits to kind of go hand in
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: hand to well.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: And I just want to make this clear because I
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: feel like people and we're gonna maybe tie this into
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: the end of the episode, but the fetishization of mental illness.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: Oh CD does not mean you like to have all
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: your spoons in one drawer and all of your it can.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: But for me, I wanted to have a sense of
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: control over my environment. But also I had obsessive thoughts
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: that everyone I loved was gonna die. I would obsess
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: over how they were going to die, to the point
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: where I would like make myself cry or like have
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: nightmares that everybody I loved was gonna die horribly and
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: I was gonna die.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: Our kid is fucked because both parents. I used to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: lay awake in bed night after night dreaming up misery, yeah,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: and impending, not just potential misery. As soon as I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: found out that eventual, even if she stayed healthy forever,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: she would die. One day when I was like five, Yeah,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: I laid in bed and then like, like you're saying,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: just any fucking bad thing that will happen eventually or
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: things that could happen. That's a whole other category.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: That's part of obsessive compulsive disorder. Though I always when
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: I watched As Good as It Gets, I always identified
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: with Jack Nicholson because yeah, he has to turn the
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: lock three times or whatever, and I never had to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: But well, when they portray obsessive compulsive disorder in movies,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: it's a good trope. It's visual, can't step on cracks,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: has to count certain things they do, has to have
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: their salt shakers and pepper shakers in a certain order.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: All that stuff is great for film, But like you're saying,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: there's this whole other list of I don't know what
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: would you call him, not side effects, but.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: Kind of like the the actual suffering part of like
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: what goes on inside the mind when you have obsessive
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: compulsive disorder. Because the reason why you might bring your
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: salt and pepper shaker with you is because you think
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: everybody's going to poison you. Like, that's the mental part
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: of it that you don't see, is like, oh, they
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: have to have their own salt and pepper. Actually they
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: think they're gonna die if they use their restaurant salt
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: and peppers, so they'll bring it with them, you know
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: what I mean.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's also like you can bring germophobia into OCD.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: There's a few honorable mentions that I have that had
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: just come to mind, So I think if we think
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: of them, we can shout them out instead of doing
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: it at the end, which we'll have plenty, But it
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: makes me think of match Stick Men with Nick Cage
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: having OCD. But the other one that I haven't thought
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: about until just now, I me and you both love it.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: It's a comedy. What What About Bob?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: My god?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I almost think that if if we
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: had thought of that, it probably would have made at
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: least one of our lists.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: Well, for sure, I love that movie.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: But what About Bob? Is on the lighter side, much
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: like As Good as It Gets? But I really I
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: think What About Bob is a better movie. I struggle.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: I struggle with as Good as It Gets, And we'll
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: get into that after Julia has done talking about about it.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: But yeah, what about Bob? He's got the same shit
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: going on and they do really make light of it.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: And as good as it gets, it's not really a comedy.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: It's like a romantic comedy, but it's more like a
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: romantic dramedy because there are funny parts. There's funny there's
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: endearing characters. Greg Kinnear playing the gay guy that gets
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: beat up that he actually takes his dog and kind
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: of breaks breaks his routine, and all that, but yeah,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: you keep going with your thoughts on it.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: Well, my thoughts on it is that it's one of
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: my favorite movies. I'm not gonna say it's top five
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: or anything, but if I had to like ten to
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: fifteen movies, it would be in there. And it's because
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: and you know, I've often wondered if the tendency to
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: just like blurt shit out that you're not supposed to
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: say comes from having obsessive thoughts.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: It's a part of a control mechanism.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: Because you even brought it up the other day because
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: I was talking to my doctor and I'll just like
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: say random off the wall shit and You're like, most
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: people wouldn't say that to their doctor, and it's like,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: I can't.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: Well, let's let's let the audience decide.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: I told her, I have thunder pulls.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: No, let's talk about the first one. She had to
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: get tested. Everybody gets tested for butthole strap.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pussing buttthole strap.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: And she handed Julia, I actually highly regret missing this appointment.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: Sometimes my work schedule is such that I can't go
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: to all of them. And I, yeah, we very frequently.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: Was She handed Julia the butthole q tip And you
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: know how Julia loves the word beetles. She said, how
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: far do I have to shove this up my beople?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: And the doctor, who's very straight laced, lost it, right.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: She laughed her ass off. Just the tip, she said,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: just the tip. It was a long ass. It was
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: probably like at least I would say it's at least
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: a foot long subway sub of a swab. And she said,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: but just.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: The tip is the just the tip is the cotton
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: part right right?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: But she said halfway into the vagina. And then I said, yes.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: Hell, was that a six inch er?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: It was a foot long subway sub.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: So you're getting up into the cervical region apparently.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: And so I was like, okay, if I got to
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: go that far in the puss.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: Now I understand when you asked.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: Hupping this up my b hole? And she said, just.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: The tips, after laughing her ass off.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And then the second appointment, I said, I've been
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: having a lot of thunder puss and she was like, oh,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: lightning crutch and I was like, yeah, whatever. But I
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: mean I've often wondered if I blurt shit out like
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: that because I'm a sagittarius or because I have obsessive.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: It's just because it's just because you're you.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: It's just a me thing.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: We could attribute it to the self diagnoses you've done.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know that you're OCD, Like finically, are you.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: They said that when I was little before, they did
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: say it, yeah, because I like I had all my barbies,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: had to be a certain way and all my stuff,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: and like, yeah, I would. I would freak out and
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: go to the nurse at school and they'd say, what's
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: wrong with you? And I'd say, I think my mom's
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: gonna die, and then they would let me call her
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: because I would just have a freak out in the
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: middle of the day thinking about like I'm at school
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: right now, my mom's probably dead somewhere. I'm serious.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: It's not funny, but I do relate to a lot
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: of it.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was fucked up.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's uh.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: This movie has so many gems.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: Come on, well, I would say that when it came out,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: it was very well received and it did shine a
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: light on these mental illness things in the way that
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: a lot of movies have done since. I mean, there's
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: been movies that did it before this.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: Uh, how about people who speak in metaphors out of
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: shampoo my crotch?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Jack Nicholson's character, what's his name in it? Melvin
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: Melvin Udahl does have some very good one liners in this.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: He's a writer and he's like at a meeting with
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: a publisher or something, and the woman at the front
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: desk is a fan of his and asks, how do
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: you write? He writes all of his books through a
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: first person female perspective, it seems, and she asks how
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: he writes women so well, and he says it's easy.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: I just take away reason and accountability. Right, good line.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: There are a million great one liners in this.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: You're gonna say that's a good line. Yeah, I didn't
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: poke you a little bit. You think women lack reason
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: and accountability? Sometimes that's a broad stroke, I'd say so,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: saw a lot of men do too.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: Besides, you make me want to be a better man.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: And all that grossest line in the movie.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: When they're in the car and he's like, I hope
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: your dad hands you another big sweaty ball. I don't know.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: There are just so many.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: Well, he has some pretty good homophobic remarks towards the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: gay neighbor the Gaber. I would say that this movie
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: was like for its time, It got away with a
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: lot of stuff that you wouldn't see in like a
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: blockbuster Academy Award winning hit. It does. It's not woke
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: by any sense.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: Now took the imagination and it has the guy in
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: it from Scream.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 5: Does have skeetle Rick in it. Yeah, there's what you
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: think is a gay guy modeling for the for Greg
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: Kinnear's character and they end up jumping him and kicking
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: his ass.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: But anyways, I think it is a great love story
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: and you don't, so I guess that's where we can
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: debate on this.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the whole movie to me is about, you know,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: being completed by another person. Is the element that Jerry
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: maguire explored. And this one is you make me want
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: to be a better man. You know that one line.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: But if you watch the scene where they're having dinner
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: and he's just being a fucking asshole to her for
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: this whole conversation because he's so frustrated that he can't
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: tell her how he feels, and he tells her, I
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: stopped taking my medication and then he says it's because
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: of her. You make me want to be a better man.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: He said, he started, okay, taking the medication.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: Started taking it.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: Yes, okay.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: That to me is even worse because.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: He said, I hate pills, right, And she said okay,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: and he's like, and I mean hate and he said
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: that day something I talked to you, and I started
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: taking the pills. And she's like okay, and he says,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: you make me want to be a better man.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: When I first saw this movie, I just kind of
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: thought that was like cheesy, throwaway shit, and now I
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 5: think it's even I don't know. To me, it's not
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: a real love story, as most of these stories that
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: are supposed to be love stories are not love stories.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: Not a love story.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: Because it's an inflated notion of other people being responsible
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: for your overall being. And she's if we were to
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: watch this movie and it was like ten hours long
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: by the time we got to the end of the movie.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: He's fucked her over several times, and he's blamed his
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: condition and she has to accept him for how he is,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: which you would if you were to get into a
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: relationship with something like that. But I just, to me,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: it's not it's like Chuck Paulink nook for a circle
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: back moment. He had a quote that I love is
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: happy and needs to just depend on where you draw
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: the curtain. And I think that that was a good
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: moment to draw the curtain. The ass whole misogynist is
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: throwing his life into this younger woman's lap. You make
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: me want to be a better man.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: I just as good as it gets. I think it's
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: a realistic love story. I think that knowing her love
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: in his way. Okay, he did all that stuff for
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: her son.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's trying to buy her favor. I don't think
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: the character is endearing. I never do.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: I think he takes the gay guy in.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he has a moments carry the dog being very resentful,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: but that's like.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: Some real life shit.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: You might be resimbleful, and most characters in real life
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: aren't good people. They might have good moments that This is.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: Realistic, of course, and it could be a realistic love story.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: I don't hate the movie. I don't think it's like
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: an example of what love is it should be.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but you are in a relationship with someone
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: who is very particular, and you, I know.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: Do I make you want to be a better woman?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: I think we make each other better.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: Sure, but I'm not putting that responsibility on you either.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, babe, that people are fucked up in the
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: head and when they get with another person, it's not
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: the notebook.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: See, it's just it's not It's the same issue I
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: have with you. Complete me from Jerry Maguire, which I
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: did mention earlier. But it's not what love is. It's
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: a Hollywood love and this movie did very well on Hollywood.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: And you don't think that it showed how dysfunctional relationships.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: Can well, yeah, sure, but I don't think that's like
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: the love story we should put on a pedestal. I
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: think anction a dysfunctional relationship is realistic. In fact, you
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: can't have a one hundred functional relationship if it's a
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: real relationship. You know, people pull it off because they
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: treat each other like roommates that they tolerate. But a
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: real love story doesn't have to be about sacrifice or.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: So you're saying she's sacrificing because he's fucked up.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: That's her decision to make. But I don't think it's
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: a shining beacon of what love is. And the and
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: the the context just pre anybody who thinks I'm being
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: an asshole, that's fine, but watch if you disagree, watch
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: the last scene with them together at the dinner table
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: where he says the line, and the whole context of
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: the conversation. I just I didn't really like I said.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: It was like when I watched it years later that
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: I kind of walked away thinking differently of it.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: Maybe you should watch it again.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: I guess I have seen it a handful of times, And.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, because I'm sure I'll watch it
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: at some point, or make you watch it again at
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: some point, because I do love it very much.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: You hear that she makes me watch things.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: Well, I was just gonna say, I we.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: Take turns picking movies.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not as bad as Jack Nicholson, but I just,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't think she's necessarily sacrificing to have
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: to be with him. I think he's actually like.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: Well, that wasn't even my bigger point. If you want
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: to sacrifice and it's worth it to you, that can
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: be part of a love story for sure.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: Like how I organize the bathroom cabinet.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: I'm getting this. Yes, you are so attached to this
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: character that me not like in this movie, you're taking
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: it personally. No, I'm saying.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: I'm saying it's you. When I got all those fucking
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: buckets from the dollar store and went through our entire
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: bathroom cabinets and organized everything and put it in baskets,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: and like, if you don't put something in the basket,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: or you put it in the wrong basket, and I
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: go behind you and I take it out of that
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: basket and put it in its proper basket. I'm just saying,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: people have hang ups, relationships are weird, and you're very
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: gracious towards me and all my little.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 5: Particular Well, I'm an unorganized motherfucker. Look at the state
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: of the house when you moved in.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: Just saying you've been very gracious towards me, as Helen
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: Hunt was towards Jack Nicholson.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: Uh, okay, but I don't see you like throwing fits
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: if things aren't the way.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: You want it, I suffer in silence.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: Okay, well, thank you.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: But anyways, yeah, this you accept me.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: As a person who doesn't shut cabinets when I'm done
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: reaching in, and yeah you accept me, I accept you,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: and neither one of us is sacrificing a whole hell
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 5: of a lot by accepting each other. You don't have
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: to sometimes you do. I just don't think this is
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: our love story.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't say it's our love story, but I would
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: just say, as far as realistic, like one of them's
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: fucked up in the other.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: One, everybody's fucked up. Yeah, that should be the name
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: of the movie. Everybody's fucked up.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: Everybody's fucked up.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: This is as good as it gets in parentheses.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so this one. I picked this one because it's
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: a mild form of mental illness as far as mental
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: illness goes. But uh cookes ten out of ten cooks
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: for me.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna give it a five. Wow, always look on.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: The right side of your life.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: I don't think this picks up whistling.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: So we've got we've covered almost all of the different
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: types of mental illness. What's next on them?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: Well, we're on pick three for you, which is psycho.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: Psycho.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: Here we have a quiet little motel, when in fact
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: it has now become known as the scene of the crime.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: Do you have a vacancy? Oh, we have twelve vacancies.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: None is the first place. It looks like it's hiding
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: from the world. I think that we're all in our
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: private traps, clamped in them, and none of us can
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: ever get up.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: She wouldn't even have a fly. And you know, this
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: could be any rendition of it. It could be the
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: original Psycho.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: Gus Van Sant with fucking Vince Bond.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: Vince Vaughan, it could be Baits Motel. I'm down for
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: any of them, right. I tried, really tried to get
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: into Baits Motel.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: I stopped watching it at the end of season two
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: just because it was current, and I have never gone
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: back to it when they kept going, But I would.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: I like that kid who was in some movies when
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: he was younger, like he was in that Neverland Finding Neverland.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but talking about mental illness, he's in that Good
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: Doctor show where he has severe autism.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I've never watched that.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: I've watched like five seasons of it.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: But yeah, the Bates Motel I thought was very well done. Yeah,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: of course I love the Hitchcocks I go. I thought
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: it was interesting enough to watch all the way through
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: the Gus Van Sant rendition with Vince Vaughan playing Norman Bates.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: But I enjoyed it.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know what the point was.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: I don't either, other than they just did it.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: It just was like almost shot for shot, word for word.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: The only difference is it's in color. And Vince Vaughan, well,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: they had to update the actors.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying it was interesting.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah. For him, he was doing mainly bad guy roles
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: and then he slid into comedy. But somewhere in between
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: there he was picked to play Norman Bates, which was
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 5: a fucking reaching for a goddamn sleeper. As far as
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: all the actors that would have wanted to do that role,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: they got Vince Vaughan. He was nobody really back then.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: Interesting, But don't you feel like they incorporated aspect of
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: Norman Bates into American horror story Asylum with Doctor Threadson
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: with his weird mommy thing that he had going. So
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: would you say that Norman Bates because we'll spare everyone.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: If you don't, if you haven't watched a rendition of
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: Psycho yet, then fuck you. I mean, whoa, this is
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: cosmic peach pot.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: Some people don't get around to every movie.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: Psycho in some form. Everybody knows the story.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: And if not, fuck you, And if not, you that's
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: not me saying that you're welcome to watch it or
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: not watch it, but you should at it's worth watching,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: know the premise. Of course it's been. There's been so
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: many tips of the hat throughout pop culture. I think
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: there's even a family guy. Yes, it's just everywhere, shower scene, iconic.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: BIG's adermy stuff big.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: In nice Shyamalan style twist, which actually I should just
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: say Alfred Hitchcock style twist because he is the master
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: of the twist. And yeah, all of it. It's the
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: fight club kind of thing going.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: On in Split Personality. It's do you think he was
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: incestuous with his mom or what I mean?
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: I don't think that was really thought about much, unless
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: you know back then dressed up as well. It's supposed
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 5: to be ed Gain No, Yes, the three major pillars
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: of ed Gain is it gainer Gane? I always say, well,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: he was the inspiration for Psycho Texas, Chainsawn Mashtacre and
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: Silence the Lambs. Yeah, so there's elements of the mother.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: He doesn't go as far as wearing skin suits, but
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: he does dress up as it puts on what it had.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: It been inspiration for Friday the thirteenth. I'm not sure
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: with the mom remember kill him?
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that it's like, what year
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 5: was ed Gian fuck? Bro Cook?
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: Well, they got they talking about that, they got a
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: show coming out I'm gonna fucking stoked thiss fuck to
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: watch on.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: Netflix fifty seven, So we're talking a two year difference.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: I think Hitchcock probably got read on that script.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: Wow, why does it say ed Gean also known as
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: the Butcher of playing Field or the plain Field ghoul.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: Nobody says that if you said ed.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: Gian, maybe back when he was active or whatever was
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: going on, he had a moniker.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: Well nobody uses those monikers, like if you even the
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: show that they're.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 5: I've heard the Butcher of playing Field, but I didn't
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 5: know it was him. So you're making a point like yeah,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: and he's you know, you and I are both huge
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: fans of the serial killer stuff that McGowan uncovered and
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 5: programmed to kill. I've never myself done a huge deep
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: dive into ed Gain, but anyway, a tangent decided he
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: was the basis for Psycho or for Norman Bates and
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: a couple others notable.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: At the end of the first Psycho Alfred Hitchcock. They
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: have him in the police station and he's dressed like
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: his fucking mom, and shit, I let.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: Him even I think she doesn't even want to harm
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: that fly.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but the funniest part to me is when the
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: cops are talking to the psychiatrist and the psychiatrist is like,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: I know what's wrong with him, and the cops like
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: he's a transvestite, and he's like, uh no.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 5: No, but yes, yes, but no, it's much more than that.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: But anyways, I always laughed at that part because he's
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: like he's a transvestite. We were actually thinking about doing
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: a bonus episode on serial killers who spent a lot
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: of time in mental institutions because a lot like prisons
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: and military I do think that they look for a
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: certain type of psychopath that would be beneficial in these
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: programs in mental institutions as well.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and this would be a Patreon thing. And if
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: it happens, it's only because Julia has not gone into
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: labor right next couple weeks, but that could be something
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: to look forward to. I do want to just say
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: before we move on from Psycho, that I am finding
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: it pretty fucking intense that this event would have shocked
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: the nation. Yeah, nineteen fifty seven, And and then this huge
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 5: horror thriller filmmaker does a movie that rocked the world
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: only two years later. Yeah, I mean, of course, Hitchcock
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: is so established in the industry that you got it. No,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: I mean he's got someone's got their thumb over him,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 5: and that he Yeah, I didn't even realize how closely
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 5: these two things the you never realized again, and then
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: the release of this fucking movie. Okay, so it was base. Okay,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: I might be wrong saying here that the fifty nine
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: novel so that the novel was written two years later. Yeah,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: it came out fifty nine, same year as the novel,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: So I don't know. I find that interesting me. Yeah, No,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 5: I do give this one, of course, context of the
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 5: time it came out. Even the material today, done in
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: the hand or handed to a masterful director would be
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: still just as good. I give it a ten.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, same ten. What's next on the list?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: Now? We were moving on to my third pick, which
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 5: is something we just watched last night, and we mentioned earlier,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 5: the two thousand film Memento.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: I guess I've already told you about my condition every
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: time I see you.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: You don't remember where you've been or what you've just done.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: I can't make memories. Everything just fades.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: What's the last thing you do?
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: Remember? My wife?
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: That's sweet dying.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 5: You really want to get this guy, don't you. My
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 5: wife deserves a vengeance.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: When you find this guy, what are you gonna do?
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: Somebody's got to pay, Lenny. Somebody always pays. You have
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: to be very careful.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: You wander around playing detective.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: Maybe you should start investigating yourself.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 8: This guy is so dangerous and he's gonna kill me.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: I want my life back.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: I think someone's trying to get me to kill the
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: wrong guy.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: You can question everything.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 6: You can never know.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: Anything for sure. There are things you know for sure.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 5: You can't trust her.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: Even if you.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: Get revenge, you're not gonna remember it. You're not even
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: gonna know that it happened. Who did this to you?
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: You did?
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 5: You don't know who you are? A lot of people
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: consider to be Christopher Nolan's film debut, even though he
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 5: and his brother did a kind of a almost like
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: student film level film called The Following before they came
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: to the US and started making stuff. But this is
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 5: what brought Christopher Nolan, you know, master director behind Inception, Interstellar,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: just did that movie about the nuclear race, the Manhattan Project.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: What was that called Oppenheimer. Oh, the guy's name, the physicist.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: Well, you know when you told me, you were like,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: I want you to watch this movie. It is called Momento,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: and it's by what Momento whatever you said, it's you know,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: it's Christopher Nolan, fucking inception and da da da. I
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: knew it was going to be a mind fuck.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And for those of you who haven't seen the movie,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: it's the main character suffers from severe short term memory loss.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 5: And we're not talking fifty first dates where he gets
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: a whole day. He just gets several minutes at a time.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: I would say twenty minutes.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's probably something around that because some of the
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 5: scenes he has to like cover some time before he resets.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: So he just resets and the last memory he has
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 5: stored as his wife Dane. He's tracking down the killer,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 5: leaving himself a series of notes in pleuting tattoos on
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 5: his own body. But then it just turns into almost
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: a murder mystery. It's so fucked spoiler alert. You find
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: out this guy actually his wife wasn't murdered like he thought.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: She survived this attack where he was given this head
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: injury trying to defend her, and that's when his condition started.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 5: He doesn't know that she lived, and she made him
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 5: kill her with insulin because she thought he would snap
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: out of it. He's told himself this whole story that
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: it was this other guy that he knew from his
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 5: past life as an insurance claims investigator. Anyway, the movie
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 5: is just brilliantly told backwards. So the first scene of
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: the movie is what would be the last scene in
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 5: a chronological movie. And you are on along for the ride.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 5: You feel like this cur You don't know where you are,
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 5: what's going on until the next scene where it starts
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 5: to builds.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: Even at the end, you're sitting there like, fuck off,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: what the fuck?
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: It does turn out that he originally got the guy
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: that attacked his wife, but he just keeps doing it
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 5: over and over and killing people, thinking he's tracking down
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: He's given him tracking down the killer of his wife.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: He's given himself a purpose, and he even kills people
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 5: that are supposed friends of his on purpose. He sets
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: himself up and then forgets that he did it and
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: he's basically a serial killer with no memory of being one.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: And granted, I've only seen it one time, and you've
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: seen it multiple times, so you have a more rounded
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: fucking opinion on the whole shit. But he's not a
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: good guy.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And one of the things that the Joe Pantaliano,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: you know, Cipher from the Matrix, he keeps telling him,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 5: you don't know who you are anymore. You know who
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 5: you were up until the point of your accident, you
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: don't know what you've become.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: He's also in all the Bad Boys movies.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: He's their chief, right, Yeah, all right.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: He makes his vodka and pepto. He's like my favorite character.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: But anyways, this movie.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: Makes you feel mentally ill when you want to.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it does make you feel fucked up when you
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: watch it. And like I said, I don't think he's
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: a good guy. He's murdering indocent people.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 5: None of them are innocent to you.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, for me, I go buy the Code of Dexter,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 4: all right, And none of those people he killed deserve
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: to die.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: We don't know that. I'm not like the investigator picking
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: up for the guy. I love the movie. I love
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 5: the twist, the whole thing is just loaded with Like
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 5: I was telling.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: You, it's so hard to be married to you, because
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 4: sometimes I'll have a movie in mind that I want
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 4: you to watch, and I'll be so psyched up because
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: it'll be like one of my favorite movies, and you're
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: just like, eh, it takes an actual fucking like. I
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 4: feel like I need to be committed somewhere after I
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: watch the movies that you like to watch. I can't
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: just show you what. I can't just show you like
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 4: Evil Dead remakes in horrible movie. Well, I'm just saying
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: that was a bad example.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 5: But like.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: I'll be like, oh, I really like this one. You'll
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: probably love it, and then you watch it and you're
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 4: just like, eh, it was all right. And then you
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: make me watch this ship and I feel like I
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: need to go fucking get on Zaprexa or whatever that
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 4: ship the anti anti depressant booster.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm selective.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: You like things that make you feel like you're on
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: a fucking Alice in Wonderland trip.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: I like fucking animal houses, and much as the next guy,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: I can watch a fun movie with no message and
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 5: still enjoy it. And that you know, you say it's
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: hard to be married to me because it's hard to
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 5: impress me with movies you like. But I don't think
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 5: anymore or any less of you if you show me
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 5: a movie, I don't call it ten Yeah, but I.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: Feel like it's such an achievement when I pick something
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: that you actually like, like Midnight Mass or like The
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: Blind Manner or Archive eighty one, something like that, because
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: I'll be thinking, ooh, this one's kind of psychological or cerebral.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: I bet he'll like this one. But you can't just
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 4: watch fucking what's one recently that you just thought was
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: absolute dog shit? Besides Evil Dead you hated it.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: I don't know we're getting in the weeds here, though.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 5: I mean we could wrap up Memento. We're making pretty
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 5: good products.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 4: Saying watching this movie, like all of the movies you like,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: made me feel like I was going down the fucking
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: rabbit hole. And if that's what it feels like to
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 4: have short term memory loss again, bang fuck you. I'm
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 4: taking myself out.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: Well. One of the things I like about this movie
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: is it's a psychological ride. You understand that if a person,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 5: even with something this debilitating, can keep themselves driven with
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 5: purpose and can condition themselves despite not having the ability
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: to form new memories. It just was I mean, Christopher
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: Nolan's brother wrote a short story and that's what this
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: movie is based on. Agread that right now. But it's
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: it's just so well thought out and layered, and like
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 5: we were talking yesterday, did they write this shit in order?
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: And then like this cause like pulp fiction jumping all
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 5: over the place, but this one actually is chronological. It's
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: just back front.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: And you know, it made me feel gross when I
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 4: watched it, Like the first time I watched Butterfly Effect.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: Do you remember how you felt the first time you
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: watched Butterfly Effects?
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was pretty heavy. Yeah, I don't know, I
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: don't see my mento's heavy. It's just a fucking ride.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: It just you can't understand.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 5: It takes more than one viewing, yeah, for sure. And
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 5: like there's probably half the movies I picked that you
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: you've seen once that you probably need to see a
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 5: handful of times before you can really appreciative.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: Birth First, before we start rewatching some shit you picked,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: like Requiem for a Dream, which shout out is an
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: honorable mention.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: For a dream. The mom kind of spinning out. I mean,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 5: you could look at addiction as a mental illness, which
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 5: is a model some people clean to the mom for me,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: like the mom does lose her mind.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because she's taken and she's mixing stuff like her
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 4: antidepressant booster and her all for stuff. But so, Momento,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 4: are we rating now? I'm gonna give it for me
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 4: first time viewer. I give it ten out of ten
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: kukes for how it made me feel, but five out
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: of ten kukes for how it made me feel.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 5: So let's go seven point five, dude.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 4: Seven point five kooks.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 5: Ten for me. Ten is a fucking overall movie and
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 5: ten as far as like the psychological ride, you go on.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 4: The psychological part, Fuck.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 5: That all right? And so for for my fourth pick,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 5: we're going with the twenty sixteen film Split by m
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 5: Night Shamala Malangadong.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: Hey, pardon me, sir, I think you have the wrong car.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 5: You've emailed for an appointment two days in a row.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: Tell me what's going on.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 8: I've never seen a case like this before. Twenty three
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 8: identities live in Kevin's body.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: Did something happen? There's a flower on the pillows, a
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: flower in the bathroom, Like we're important?
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 5: Who is that maybe she can help us here.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 9: Don't worry. He knows what you're here for. He's not
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 9: allowed to touch you. He knows that m M, my
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 9: name's Hedwig. I have read thoughts.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 5: How old are you?
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: Nice?
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 8: The human brain is the most complex object in the universe.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 8: I mean, with multiple personalities, can change their body chemistry
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 8: with their thoughts.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: Someone's coming for you. What will happen when he unlocks
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 5: the potential of his brain?
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 8: There is no limit to what he can become.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: And Night is a sacred knight. You will be in
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: the presence of something greater. The world will understand now
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: there'll be is real.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 5: I'm starting to notice the motif. We have a few
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 5: on here that are about you know, shattered people and
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 5: as far as alternates, but this one is different. I
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 5: think it's.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: Got like I said in the beginning of the episode,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 4: it's got the supernatural slash paranormal aspect to it.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And you could also say that this is a
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 5: second part of the trilogy he did that includes Unbreakable
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 5: Split in the Middle, and it's all wrapped up with Glass.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 5: But and one thing I find interesting about Glass is
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 5: they are institutionalized and who is the head shrink to
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 5: circle back to Asylum American RS story, it is landa banana.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 5: Oh fuck, Sarah Paulson is the is that her name
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 5: got about that? She's you know, she'd kind of come
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 5: to fame at this point through American her story. But yeah,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 5: so she's the kind of the shoes on the.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: Other poste too in the Ratchet.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good thing to mention. But anyway, I
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 5: just love the whole breaking down of like all these alternates,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: and the acting job of James McAvoy is exceptional, playing
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 5: the little kid, playing the old proper British bitch that's
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 5: supposedly the bad one until you meet the Beast. Maybe
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 5: a Crawley reference, I'm not sure, but oh, I did
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 5: want to say that one of the characters and the
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: girl interrupted was last name was Crawley. Yeah, I mean
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 5: in the late sixties, she could have been like the
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 5: great granddaughter granddaughter.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: Even the fact the fact that they chose that time
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: period two for me, it's.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 5: A memoir bit that apparently was when that oh really.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: Well kinds of stuff around that time too. They didn't
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 4: have to pick Jared Leto to be in it, that
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 4: his fucking ass was in it too.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 5: So well also fucking my owner writers the one who's
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 5: obsessed with Catcher in the Rye and wears the shirts
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 5: and yeah, says that she identifies with Holden caffielled But yeah,
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 5: back to split Tangent averted almost so this is.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 4: Kind of like psycho like with this split personality.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 5: It's like Psycho fight Club.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 4: But with this one. Let's just hope my sister doesn't
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 4: listen to this episode.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 5: She don't listen.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 4: So I used to make the girls at work laugh
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 4: because we worked at the same place. And if she
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 4: does it well, and I would say, you know, my
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 4: sister's got two personalities. You know, she's got her work
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 4: personality and then she's the person that I know and
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 4: sometimes you just have to look at her and wonder,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 4: is that you, Patricia.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of people do this on a lower
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 5: level in their daily lives. They have their friend personality,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 5: who they are with their friends, their significant other personality,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: their work personality, maybe the personality they are around their kids. Yeah,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 5: but it's like what Tyler Durton says to Tyler Durton,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 5: Brad Pitt says to Edward Norton. People do this every day.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 5: You just had the curse to kind of run with it. Yeah,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 5: that you would say that about this main character in
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 5: the movie Split. He definitely ran with it. And you
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 5: gotta wonder, like he never really gets into how he
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: got this way, Like what did he go through? Was
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 5: he a fucking abused person? Obviously? But at what level?
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 13: Was it?
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: Like MK ultra type shit?
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 4: Hey, I feel like m Night Shyamalan was inspired by Sybil.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: Okay, and that was supposedly a true story. There's been
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 5: there's been some debate to the mainstream science. People tried
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 5: to call her a fraud. Really, yeah, supposedly.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's fair.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 5: Supposedly that shit's debunked. What Sybil officially, I don't buy it.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 4: You don't buy that she had split personality.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 5: I don't buy the debunking. On NPR in twenty eleven,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 5: Real Sibyl admits multiple personalities were fake, So that's out there.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 5: They probably had to make her say that anyway.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say sixteen separate personalities she said
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 4: she had.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 5: And one of them needed glasses and one of them
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 5: spoke French, and yeah, fake that. I can see the
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 5: influence you're talking about for yeah, able to Split for sure.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 4: Sybil was going to make my Honorable Mentions list because
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 4: obvious reasons, the same reason why Split made the list.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: But I actually loved this movie a lot when it
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: came out. And people talk so much shit about M.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: Knight Shyamalan, but he's made some of my favorite movies
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 4: of all time.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 5: I would say sixty percent of what M. Knight's done
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 5: is genius and the other forty percent is at least
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: worth watching. Yeahah, he doesn't make bad movies. He makes
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 5: some pretty genre driven, cheesy things that are still good
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 5: for what they are, and then he'll make something just
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 5: fucking phenomenal.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, cosmic peach trivia. What's my favorite M Night Shamalan movie?
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 5: Signs Lady in the Water? Oh I knew that? Yeah,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 5: I know you knew it about you? The Childhood book
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 5: based on the movie. It was written by Any himself.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 4: It's so rare find actually, I had never.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 5: Seen any of this kind of shit. Really, are you
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 5: going to read it to the baby?
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 4: But so yeah, Split?
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 5: Are we rating your turn to go first?
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 4: I'm going to give it ten out of ten kooks,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 4: because damn, I gave it eight eight out of ten.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a solid, solid movie, even though
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 5: the acting is fucking eleven out of ten.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I gave it.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 5: Anya included. She did a great job. The big eyed,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 5: hot woman who's in everything.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 5: This is the first thing I saw her.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I've seen her in anything before that,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: but just from the acting on its own, I give
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 4: it a ten out of tin Kooks and Patricia. You
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: can't get past Patricia.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 5: I would think that this is James McAvoy's best role,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 5: his Opus. Yeah, and you know, even in the third
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 5: and final installment of the trilogy, Glass, just the master
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 5: class of acting. I would say, watch Split the other
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: one the Glass. The conclusion of the story is more
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 5: driven by the supernatural battle. Yeah, the superhero super villain.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 4: And I think a lot of these movies work though,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: because you can so easily mix the paranormal with mental illness.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 4: And I think that's true in real life. I think
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 4: that there is like the guy who wrote all about
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 4: prophetic shit at the mental institution from the last episode,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 4: I think there is a parent normal aspect to this.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say one of my honorable mentions because
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 5: we're mainly doing movies. We did open with the analysis
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 5: of the second season of American Horse Story, but we've
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 5: brought it up a few times in this series and
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 5: in others. The series Legion really good, kind of obscure
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 5: look into mental illness because it's a very powerful mutant.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 5: And first they think he's mentally ill, then they think
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 5: he's a mutant, and then they realize he is a
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 5: mentally ill mutant and he's possessed also all that shit
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 5: going on, and he makes for quite a good super
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 5: villain by the time the show's wrapped up.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 4: But about another mind fucker.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 5: And it's the first season alone with the institution they're in,
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 5: and it's the X Men universe with the titular character.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 5: Is it does say that titular the being the illegitimate
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 5: son of Professor Charles Xavier, who is a telekinetic.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 4: And it is on Hulu if you have it, Yeah,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 4: worth watching, definitely.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 5: All right, Well shall we move on, yeah to your
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 5: fourth pick? Well, of course this had to be one
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 5: flew over the Cuckoo's nest. What can you tell me
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 5: about why you've been said over here?
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 9: They think you've been faking it in order to get
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 9: out of your work detail.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 4: Oh I don't like that kind of guy. You medication time.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 5: M yum me.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 4: Do you want to say something of a group, mister
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 4: mc murphy.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 13: Other thing that I'm a goddamn marvel and modern science.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 4: I want to watch the ball game baseball. I only
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 4: count nine votes, mister McMurphy. Want that television set turned
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 4: not the cheap.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 5: That nurse man sit down, he's dangerous.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 4: How about it?
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: You creep you lot.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: You think you're crazy or something. Well you're not, You're not.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 5: What do you say?
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, what do we say? Because I know it
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: was my pick, but you got all the juicy details.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, and it's you look at Laurel Canyon and
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 5: the more notably the stuff going on in the San
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 5: Francisco area with the Grateful Dead and the CIAA acid
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 5: tests and Ken Kesey and the Mary Pranksters. You get
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 5: this debut novel from Ken Kesey, who was an MK
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 5: ultra participant. He wasn't you know, not wanting to do it.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 5: He was a college student and he took some LSD
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 5: and he got wrapped up in the CIA aspect of it.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 5: But he also wrote One Flew Over the cuckoo's nest,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 5: and the story goes that he was sweeping up you know,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 5: he had the janitor and the night shift at a
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 5: psych ward and he would go in, flying high on
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 5: government sid and he would make eye contact for extensive
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 5: periods of time with the inmates there, and he would say, like,
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 5: I'm on the this side of the door is the institution.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 5: These guys are free, kind of like Lisa from Girl
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 5: Interrupted her gratitude. But you know, then you look at
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: like the whole aspect of kin Kezy and like, was
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 5: this just a great first novel because then you get
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 5: the Laurel Canyon element of Jack Nicholson starring his R. P. McMurtry,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 5: who was kN Kesey's alter ego when he was doing
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 5: all this acid inside the mental institution. But as a film,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 5: and I do got to say, as a book, it's
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 5: completely different because it's told through the perspective of the
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 5: Indian that's pretending to be mute. Oh, so you get
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 5: this Native American perspective on being locked away, and you
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 5: know he's the one who flew over the Koucka's nest
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: at the end.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's just got it all definitely.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 5: The institutionalization and the electroshock therapy Ratchet, they lobotomize his
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: ass in the end, he thinks, and juicy Fruit smothers
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: him and runs free.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 4: Right. He thinks that, oh, well, I'll just pretend like
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: I'm mentally ill so I can. Yeah, he's dodging it,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 4: serve out the rest of my time in a He's.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 5: Dodging a felony of statutory rape if I remember correctly,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 5: and believes that he can run this fucking shit the
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 5: minute he steps in the door. And then of course
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 5: he's met with the bullheaded nurse Ratchet, and then the
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 5: movie it kind of just becomes a showdown between them.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 4: It's one of the first movies I watched. Okay, so
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 4: let me just say my dad watched a lot of
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 4: movies that I can't even stand to look at as
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 4: an adult because he would watch them on repeat. One
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 4: Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is one of those movies
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 4: he would watch on repeat. But it was like the
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 4: first one where I didn't mind that he watched it
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 4: so often because I thought it was so good.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: And then you would end up visiting him in similar facilities.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, then it became kind of.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 5: I liked that. They in Wikipedia they call it a
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 5: psychological comedy drama.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 4: The funny parts to me did not make this a comedy.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 5: I think it is comedic, and I loved the cast,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 5: being so many people who would become prominent. You got
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 5: like Danny DeVito playing Martini.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 4: Fregon State Hospital. I didn't know it was Oregon.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, this is another big thing is Michael Douglas
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: was a producer on the movie, and he had to
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 5: turn his dad down because he wanted Jack Nicholson.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 4: Well, this is the second film in our list with
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 4: Jack Nicholson. Correct, two different forms of mental little.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 5: And you'd have to put the shining in there at
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 5: some point as an honorable mention.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 4: Yes and no, right, it's he's yes.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 5: Honorable mention. Certainly.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 4: Yes for me, he's paranormally split. Oh, Danny's fucked up though, Yeah,
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 4: so I guess that is a.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 5: The whole fucking thing, all of them.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 4: Danny's got split personality and.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 5: He's fucking hallucinating through the whole thing. And there's debates
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 5: over why. Right early, he's got a good theory on it.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 4: And Whendy's a retard. So you got all three up.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 5: Well she sure was by the time fucking Kubrick got
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 5: done with her.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 4: So anyways, this is one of those movies that I
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 4: watched over and over again because my dad would just
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 4: like have it on this and like, uh Legends of
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: the Fall or fucking Full Metal Jacket. But uh, yeah,
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 4: I felt I felt weird after I watched it, Like.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a very strange feeling you get watching
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 5: this big native guy's mother the protagonist of the movie,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 5: and then running free.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 4: But also like knowing that he didn't need to be lobottomized,
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 4: like he did that just to be a bitch.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 5: Well, she, in his mind, drove this innocent person to
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 5: suicide and he tried choking her out so she'd had enough.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 5: And yes, she gave him the old Rosemary Kennedy.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 4: Well he got the Walter Lobato.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he had one of the more successful ones. Put
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 5: him in that vegetated state. Very heavy movie. Very I
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 5: also think it's comedic. I mean, and I was mentioning
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 5: an earlier Look, you got Christopher Lloyd and Danny DeVito
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 5: and the guy from Ghost I don't know which one
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 5: of these names. Guys remember him. I love the scene
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 5: where they go out and borrow the boat. This guy,
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 5: Billy Bibbitt.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know how much I had seen.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 5: Him, and he's been in He's one of those side
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 5: actors that is in a lot. He was Dorif as
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 5: Billy Bibbott.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 4: Billy Bibbitt was my most sad character.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 5: He's in the original Dune Alien Resurrection.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he is in that.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 5: Blue Velvet David Lynch movie.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 4: Should we rate it ten? Ten out of ten cooks
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 4: for me?
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 5: I think I'm speaking for everyone.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 4: Right out of ten Kok's nests.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 5: So your fifth and final Shutter Island.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 4: Give you a briefing about the institution. Oh, I know
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 4: it's at hospital, but the criminally insane. We take only
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 4: the most dangerous sandwich patients once no other hospital can manage.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 4: You are hereby required to surrender your firearms.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 5: We are dually appointed federal marshals, but during your stay
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 5: you will obey protocol.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 4: Gentlemen, Welcome to Shutter Islands.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 2: Rush McDaniels, Octat.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 9: So this female prisoner, Rachel Solando, escaped sometime in the
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 9: last twenty four hours.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: She considered dangerous. You could say that.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 4: It's eleven miles to the neighest land and the waterst reason.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 5: We don't know how she got out of her room,
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 5: came back.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 2: For a midnight round. She was gone.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 5: This as if she evaporated straight through the wolves.
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 2: It was sixty seven.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 5: There are a total of what sixty six patients.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 4: At this facility, That is correct.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 5: Yes, it seems to me Rachel Solando is suggesting that
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 5: you have a sixty seventh patient. Doctor.
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: A lot of people know about this place, but no
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 2: one will talk.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 5: You know, It's like this skin is something you haven't
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 5: taken any pills.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 8: Have you seen any wing.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 5: Nightmare, slaling or shock?
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 8: I you know.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 4: You said you figured it out just by watching the trailer.
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I blame the trailer people for that. They
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 5: fucking made it obvious enough in the.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 4: Trailer, so I had no backstory. When I watched this
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 4: at the theater with my mom, I think she just
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 4: it was one of those times she said, there's a
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 4: scary movie. I want to go see it. You know,
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 4: I just let the movie play out. I didn't see
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 4: it coming while I watched the movie. I hadn't seen
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 4: a trailer. But if you watch it one time, any
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 4: other time, you watch it, it's obvious from the beginning.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 4: It's notice.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and just you know, when this movie came out,
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 5: the whole and Fight Club kind of resurfaced this oh
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 5: it's this is going on kind of trope, and like
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 5: these big twists were huge, and so I kind of
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 5: looked at every trailer back then, going oh, is this
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 5: gonna be one of those big twists, And it just
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 5: looked like from the trailer that that was the big twist.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 5: And for those of you who haven't seen it, spoiler alert.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: But.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 5: It makes it look like what he's investigating, but ends
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 5: up that he's an inmate there and they're just letting
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 5: him do this to try to heal.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 4: Him, to try to bring back his because he has
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 4: like the memory last thing like Momento.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 5: It's almost like the number twenty three.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, woo honorable mention number twenty three. Also well, I mean,
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 4: if you haven't seen Shutter Island, it's available on Hulu
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 4: right now, and like I said, if you've seen it once,
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 4: you'll be able to see throughout the entire movie that
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 4: this was a setup and that he's actually a crazy guy.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give it five out of ten kokes, give
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 4: it seven. Will you're being general?
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 5: I like Scorsese, I love DiCaprio. I love when they
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 5: pair up. This might be my least favorite of theirs.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 5: I'm also gonna throw in another honorable mention that I
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 5: would have picked if Julie had seen this movie, But
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 5: another Squarsese DiCaprio film would be Aviator. The Aviator with
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 5: uh DiCaprio portraying Howard Hughes.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 4: I've never seen it. Unfortunately.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 5: I thought that should have been the movie that DiCaprio
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 5: got an Oscar for.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 4: What do you get an oscar for?
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 5: The movie where he's alling through the snow cold the
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 5: whole fucking time after almost getting eaten.
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 4: By a bar based on the book.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 5: Well, it's based on a real account. But yes, The Revenant.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 4: Ah, I've never seen that either.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 5: It's fucking worth watching. The movie is amazing, the cinematography,
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 5: the directing, the uh one of my favorite actors, Tom Hardy,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 5: really fucking good in it. But it's just not the
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 5: performance that I thought was Oscar worthy, even though.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 4: You're forgetting one that we watched just for this episode,
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 4: Revolutionary Road.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I wanted you to watch it. Revolutionary Road For
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 5: those who haven't seen it. It's when the fucking dream Team,
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 5: as far as most teenage girls at the time are
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 5: concerned of Leonardo and Kate Winslet from Titanic pair back
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 5: up for Revolutionary Road. But the main or the best
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 5: character in the whole movie is just a guy who's
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 5: been in a mental institution and he kind of sees
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 5: the world in a logical way that meets the fantastical
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 5: notions of the of the pair in this movie. But
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 5: it's a fucking taxing watch.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 4: I would say I enjoyed it, and we had some
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 4: great conversations about it after we watched it.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 5: Well, you know another movie that kept coming up when
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 5: I was like looking over lists of movies about mental
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 5: illness for some reason, What's Eating Gilbert Great Grape kept
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 5: coming up?
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 4: He's recharging. I guess, Wow, Benny and June came up.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 5: To Benny and June was gonna be one of my
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 5: honorable mentions at the end of this. But since it's
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 5: coming up now, Yeah, you got Johnny Depp and Mary
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 5: Stuart Masterson. Great movie. I think it's probably one of
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 5: my favorite romantic comedies.
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 4: Well, I said they're both kooks, and you said only
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 4: June is a kook.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 5: Johnny Depp is not mentally ill.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 4: We will let the listeners decide, because I think he's
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 4: a little kooky.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 5: He's eccentric, he's quirky, but he's not in the condition
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 5: she's in.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 4: He's a little kooky though he's out there. Yeah, two
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 4: Cook's in love. That's Benny Cook and Cook.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 5: I just wouldn't call him legitimately mentally ill.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 4: Cookie and Cook.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 5: Even though he's sitting in a bathtub in the scene
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 5: where the older brother tells he's like wow, mentally ill
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 5: and he's sitting in the bathtub.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's.
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 5: Some of the best acting Johnny Depp's done, as far
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 5: as like taking on these Charlie Chaplin Buster Keaton type
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 5: things and doing the little dance with the dinner rolls
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 5: scene in the park. Well, we're getting tolerable mentions. But
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 5: I still have my last pick. And I was picking
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 5: between two movies, and I let Cheerlea be the tiebreaker.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 5: I was going with either Bennie and June or the
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 5: cable Guy. Raw ended up going with the cable guy.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 5: We got a little dark comedy.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 4: Table guy.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 6: Let's do this slip the cable guy, fifty bucks, You'll
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 6: give you all the movie channels for free.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 2: You're offering me a bride.
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 12: What you have just done is illegal and in this
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 12: state of convicted, you could be fined up to five
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 12: thousand dollars or spend six months in a correctional.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 4: For so all day.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 5: Oh please, no, that was done.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 12: I'm just I'm just making conversations, Darland of the Last.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 12: I just don't have any woman in my life brand
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 12: news for head.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 5: So what are you trying to say?
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 9: I'm here for you.
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 4: Don't do that.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 5: You're gonna get me too.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 6: Oh really, Jim Carey, Matthew Brothery, table guy, Okay, God,
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 6: thank god?
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 5: And what would you call him obsessive?
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 4: Uh? I would say he's got schizophrenia and separation anxiety.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 5: And for those of you who don't know, this was
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 5: a Ben Stiller film directing and he does the cameo
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 5: as the homage to the Menindez Brothers going on throughout
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 5: the movie. Brilliant movie. Highly underrated as far as the
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 5: stuff Jim Carrey was putting it out before and after this.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 4: I definitely talked about it in my Jim Carrey series
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 4: because it was I think it's Misunderstood, Misunderstood Jim Carrey film.
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 5: I think it's one of the better ones he did
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 5: in the nineties. Yeah, but as far as acting goes,
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 5: I think it's telling a wider story, you know, Chip Douglas,
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 5: which ended up just being a pseudonym that he picked.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 5: This guy's obsessed with TV too. I love the element
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 5: of him growing up on TV and then becoming a
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 5: cable guy who stocks people.
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 5: Jack Black has a memorable role, even though it's smaller.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 5: Already mentioned Ben Steeller's cameo. Of course, Matthew Broderick being
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 5: the victim and this was produced by jud Appatau and
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 5: his wife in Her Life, Leslie Mann is in it.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 5: Good movie, good laughs. Kind of makes you think, too well,
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 5: what I said.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 4: What I think he has? What do you think he has?
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 4: You agree?
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't call him like a full blown schizo from
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 5: my armstair chair position in the in the movie theater,
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 5: but I would say he's psychotic, he's stocking, he's dangerous,
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 5: he's obsessive, he.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 4: Has think he has separation anxiety.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was raised by the television.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 4: This was This is a good one too, because I've
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 4: actually met some people who get like weird like that
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 4: when they try to be your friend. Yeah, and it's
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 4: like you feel sorry for him because you can't be
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 4: their friend anymore once they've crossed over into the fucking
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 4: abyss you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and I'm not
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 4: talking about like dudes trying to like no, no, we
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 4: were talking about my tree, like.
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 5: In this scenario with the cable guy, like hetero friendship
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 5: seekers and then they kind of cling on and you
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 5: kind of have to start ignoring them and all that shit.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 4: But yeah, and you feel bad because it's like, you know,
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 4: they start trying to almost imitate you and shit like that.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 5: Or we're talking like single white female. Yeah have you
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 5: seen that? Yeah, that's a good one. And you know
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 5: this one was kind of like that, but a dark
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 5: comedy instead of a full on thriller.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 4: They say that what did they say about something or
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 4: other is the most sincere form of flattery imitation imitation,
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 4: but fuck that because it's creey at times. Really, it's
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 4: not like, oh, Julia likes to wear band t shirts
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 4: and now I feel like maybe I want to get
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 4: a couple. It'll be like they they change their personality
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 4: to like become you and stuff.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 5: Oh, you just made me think of a great honorable mention.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 5: What talented mister Ripley. It was one of Matt Damon's
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 5: early roles and I've seen that playing opposite of Jude
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 5: Law and it's got Philip Seymour Hoffman in it. But
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 5: he basically becomes obsessed. The Matt Damon character becomes obsessed
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 5: with Jude Law and he kills him and then becomes him. Yes,
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 5: he takes his identity.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 4: That's why you can't be friends with those kind of people.
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 4: Once you see the red flags, you've got to just
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 4: ghost them.
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And it was in that particular movie, which often happens,
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 5: is he was obsessed and wanting to be his best
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 5: friend and then the denial happens and then he snaps
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 5: and kills him. Yeah, you know, the Cable Guy kind
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 5: of went down similar avenues and ends up being resolved
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 5: and funny. And at the end of the movie he's
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 5: even moved on to another victim of the ambulance driver.
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 5: He's like, hey, what's your name? He gets that lock
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 5: in his eyes.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so this one I'm given to him out of Jenkinkes.
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 5: For what it is and all that I give it a.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 4: Solid nine nine out of ten.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 5: Koukes honorable mentions that also were in contention for this
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 5: final slot of mind another Jim Carrey movie Me, Myself
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 5: and Irene would have been too similar as far as
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 5: some of the other picks go. Psycho Split, Fight Club.
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 4: I uh just had one pop into my head. Fatal Attraction.
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 4: What do you think she's got besides Scott A Rhea.
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 5: She just has no ability for reason or accountability?
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 4: How did she rise in the ranks of her company
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 4: being that psychotic?
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 5: I could tell you I've seen that movie maybe once
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 5: all the way through.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 4: Are you serious?
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 5: We're talking Glenn.
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 4: Close right, yeah, horse face.
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 5: It's that fucking type cast character that Michael Douglas got
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 5: stuck in for a while. My fucking basic instinct.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 4: Well, me and my mom watched Fatal Attractions.
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 5: Disclosure the time. Yeah, remember the dead Bunny and shit?
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 4: Well, so, uh we mentioned Bennie and June. Another Johnny
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 4: Depp honorable mention is Secret Window. I know that you
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 4: didn't love that one.
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 5: I didn't hate it. I had read the short story,
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 5: or maybe it was a full length novel, I don't
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 5: really remember, but it was based on the Stephen King's
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 5: work and they kind of took it was almost like
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 5: with the Shining, like they took this where it's actually
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 5: like a haunting possession type thing to where it's a
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 5: full on, like multiple skitso kind of thing. Yeah, Johnny
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 5: Depp and of course what's his name from? Oh brother
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 5: art though John Titureu.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Pete.
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 5: Pet turned him into a horned toe. Yeah.
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 5: I think we may have gone over all my honorable mentions.
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 5: You have any others?
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 4: I have two others, and then we can just sum
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 4: up our final thoughts.
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 5: Oh I do have one more? What so you go first?
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 4: Well American Psycho.
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we did talk about maybe that would end up
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 5: on the list for one of us. Really fucking you know,
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 5: I almost regret not having it up there. I love
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 5: American because they pick this thing that you think it
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 5: is and then it's even like debated on whether he
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 5: imagined it or not, but obviously debated.
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 4: But to me, I think it's a better ending if
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 4: it is imagined, don't you?
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 5: Oh it is, and to me that's what it is. Yeah,
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 5: Like I can't be persuaded that he really was a
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 5: killer and they just covered it up because he's rich, right,
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 5: So some people think yeah, but like they're they're like
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 5: telling him that he didn't do it because he's too
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 5: high up, like they're supposed to let him rise, which
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 5: is an element that would be cool.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 4: But I just feel like that's too surface level for me.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 5: No, it seems to be that heid yeah being that yeah, yeah.
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 5: And we did just watch another movie from the Patrick
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 5: Bateman universe, based on another novel of his Rules of Attraction,
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 5: where one of the main characters is the brother of
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 5: Patrick Bateman, and that's a fun movie. Roger Avery, the
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 5: guy that helped Tarantina write pulp Fiction, wrote and directed that.
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 5: But yeah, i'd say American Psycho ten, ten out of
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 5: ten out of ten. I guess we're rating in down.
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 5: But I did have another one, Pie. It's an indie
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 5: movie shot on sixteen millimeter film. It's the debut of
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 5: the guy that made Recquen for a Dream.
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 4: And well, I definitely haven't seen that.
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 5: It's about a mathematician who's trying to crack the code
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 5: of everything, and he initially thinks he can. He's a
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 5: mathematician guy, and he thinks that he can control this,
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 5: or at least predict the stock market. If he comes
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 5: up with this number, then he starts seeing no, it's
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 5: a number that is the equation of everything. And then
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 5: he starts getting into like old Testament.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 4: Even so it's like twenty three, like self induced psychosis.
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 5: Well, he gives himself of the botomy with a drill
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 5: at the end.
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, and it starts to become very what. He
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 4: gives himself all the bottomi with this.
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 5: With a drill, and then he just sits in the
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 5: park not thinking about the number of God. He cracked
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 5: the code of God and lost his mind.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 4: For this is again why I say it's hard to
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 4: pick movies that impress you. You're watching some shit on
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 4: a whole.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 5: This is Darren Ronofsky, who made another good movie mother.
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 5: Did you see that? Yes, that's that's him. That's the
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 5: rectum for a dream guy.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 4: I was disturbed by it.
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 5: Loved that movie. I wouldn't say it falls into mental illness.
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 5: Now the whole other brand of fucking absurdity. So you
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 5: said you had one more honorable mention.
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the Changeling with Angelina Jolie. Circle back to
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 4: Girl Interrupted, another Angelina Jolie movie.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 5: We're talking gas lit and driven driven insanity, hair.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 4: Ass lit driven insanity. Wow, that movie is for me
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 4: ten out of ten kooks. They lock her ass up
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 4: because she won't admit that they've replaced her kid with
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 4: a kid that's not hers, Like, you know, you grew
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 4: it in your body for nine months, you've stared at
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 4: their face for years. They go missing. One day, the
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 4: cops drop off a random kid and they're like, no,
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 4: you're crazy if you think this isn't your kid. Literally
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 4: based on a true story, by the way.
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 5: And brilliantly directed by Clint Eastwood, and uh, I need
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 5: to watch it again. I've seen it once.
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 4: Ended up being a victim of a serial killer right
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 4: who was raping and pedophile and all over town, and
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 4: they still had her locked up in the mental institution
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 4: because she wouldn't say this random kid they brought to
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 4: her house was their kid.
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 5: Well, it became a cover or ass type thing after that.
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 4: But anyways, that was so just an honorable mention because
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 4: the scene where they're like taking her away and knowing
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 4: it's based on a true story, you would feel completely
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 4: and utterly helpless at that point, like you know, that's
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 4: not your kid.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I've got one final honorable mention, what Erase
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 5: her Head?
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, thanks.
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 5: If you can watch that movie without becoming mentally ill
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 5: for at least ten minutes after you're done with it,
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 5: you are gifted. And we are going to watch this
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 5: after you after birth, probably after he's out of infancy,
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 5: because it crosses over. Oh god, it's yeah, it's it's
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 5: something else. But anybody who's seen eraserr Head you'll know
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 5: why it's an honorable mention. And with that said, I
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 5: don't know, we're gonna wrap up talking about like maybe
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 5: the element of cinemania and what's going on today with
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 5: our technology and the fetishization of being biodivergent not biodepe
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 5: what do they call it neuro divergent?
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 4: Well for me, yeah, that'll be our final thoughts on him.
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 5: I just thought of one more honorable mention. What twelve Monkeys.
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I've seen that.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 5: It's the guy that made beer and loading in Las Vegas.
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 5: It's got Bruce Wilson Brad Pitt, and he's a time
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 5: traveler that goes back after the future or the present
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 5: day has been wiped out by a plague. He goes
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 5: back to get information. Bruce Willis ends up in a
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 5: mental institution because he's telling people he came from the
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 5: year or whatever, and he goes back to ninety six
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 5: and he gets in there and Brad Pitt's this fucking
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 5: psychotic guy. It shows so many compellion elements of like
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 5: mental illness, because Bruce Willis's character starts to think he
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 5: is mentally ill and he's not really a time traveler.
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 5: And there's a lot of good stuff in there anyway.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 4: Out of ten kukes for you, oh for sure, there
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 4: are probably so many that were forgetting emails.
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 5: We could go on for hours.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 4: But I did want to kind of sum up our
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 4: final thoughts with the fetishization of claiming that you're mentally ill,
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 4: self diagnosed, self diagnosing, you've never you've never.
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 5: Taken Everybody has anxiety and for some reason it's the
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 5: new thing to have at the debilitating level. And I
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 5: don't think it's all fake.
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 4: Well no, but I was going to say you've never.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 4: People will just say stuff and it's like, have you
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 4: ever really, like, have you well been diagnosed? Like I
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 4: just and it's not that I put a lot of
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 4: stock into what psychiatrists and psychologists will just like say, oh,
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 4: you have borderline personalities. Like, I get it. I don't
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 4: put much stock into that, but people will just literally
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 4: walk around being like, oh, I can't do that because
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 4: I'm all get triggered. I have this, I have that,
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 4: And it's like, do you really or are you just
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 4: a fucking asshole.
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, there's a lot of that going on, and the
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 5: mental contagion. You know, a lot of this transissue stuff
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 5: can be lumped into what's going on today because of
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 5: a lot of the psyops with the school shootings and uh,
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 5: just it's one of the most divisive things going on
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 5: right now. Some people look at it as a normal phenomenon.
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 5: Some people look at it as a mental illness, and yeah,
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 5: it is trendy to be fucked up in the head,
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 5: when in fact we don't really need that much help.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 5: And I just was looking at this study or reading
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 5: about it the other day about the effect that just
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 5: chat GPT since its arrival is having on younger users,
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 5: and I mean, don't get it. It's talking people into
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 5: killing themselves. Have you seen that. It's like a times
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 5: in the last few months I've seen it pop up.
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 4: I think that there's a darkness to it. But I mean,
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 4: even besides that, I do think people need to understand that,
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 4: to some degree, it's normal to just have some dark
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 4: thoughts every now and again and not be fucking one
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 4: flew over the cuckoo's nest.
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we've talked about the element of it a lot
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 5: in the last episode. But there's a whole industry of
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 5: people waiting for you out there just to label you
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 5: insane or convince you you're insane for nefarious reasons.
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 4: But do you think, like with the mk ultra doctor
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 4: that was doing all that stuff in Canada, she had
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 4: postpartum depression. This is a normal thing. This is a biological.
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 5: Thing, anxiety.
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 4: My sister and one other person that I won't mention
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 4: their name have told me that after they had their baby,
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 4: they hated their husband and had thoughts of leaving them
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 4: and or killing them.
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 5: Can't wait.
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 4: But I'm saying, like, you don't need to get electroshock
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 4: therapy because you have a totally normal biological thing, Like
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 4: it's okay to have some fucking dark thoughts every day.
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 5: And again, Well fucking better be or else I am fucked.
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying like Dexter style dark Passenger fucking well.
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 5: And also, if you're having those thoughts, it's one thing
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 5: to have them, it's an entirely other thing to act
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 5: on them. It's not a fucking crime to fantasize about
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 5: doing horrible things. It is, on the other hand, of
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 5: crime to bring those things to fruition.
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of people calling into work though
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 4: for mental health those that's become a new thing.
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's been a real challenge as far as me.
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 5: I have been in charge of hiring people for the
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 5: last couple of years. And if that's a question while
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 5: I'm interviewing you, is how many how would you feel
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 5: about mental health days? And instead of saying, well, are
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 5: you going to make it a normal thing? I just
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 5: ask them what they mean by it, And yeah, that
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 5: has become a thing. And it's like call in sick.
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 5: I don't give a shit. But if you need a
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 5: mental health day every couple of weeks, then you're not
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 5: reliable because of that. Then I might have to pass you.
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 5: And I'm not saying there's people who don't need mental
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 5: health days or that there aren't those people. There certainly are.
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 5: But now it's like you.
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 4: Said, it's a generation of pussies.
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 5: Well, entire workforces are actually putting them in the A
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 5: lot of days now that you can have off, I.
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 4: Think you should. I think that the way that the
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 4: work system is set up with like eight hours at
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 4: home and or eight hours at work and four hours
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 4: at home, it's fucking sucks. And then you just live
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 4: for the weekend where you have a couple of days.
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 4: You yourself not really Sunday because you're thinking about having
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 4: to go to work all day the next your choice.
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 5: You don't have to sit there and waste Sunday thinking
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 5: about Monday.
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying I get it mental health days, but
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 4: it's like a generation of people who think they are
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 4: entitled to that. Now I'm mentally ill, so I can't.
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 5: Do X y Z. I can't or I will go
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 5: mentally ill if I don't have my mental health days.
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 5: Or I know people who struggle fucking mentally and are
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 5: traumatized and they go to work and they suffer through
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 5: it because they know that this is how jobs work.
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 5: It's like for every fucking ten people that really have it,
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 5: there's one hundred who don't, and they're the ones asking
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 5: for the mental health and there's yeah, it's just another
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 5: way to not have to work when you don't feel
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 5: like it. And then for some people, yeah, they're suffering
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 5: through every fucking day they're at work.
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of people on Facebook that
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 4: are my age group women in particular, patting themselves on
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 4: the back for having mental illness. And I don't know,
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 4: maybe I'm just old fashioned in this way, but they'll
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 4: post pictures of their house a mess, like disgusting, like
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 4: fucking hoarder type looking shit, and they're like, I just
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 4: wanted to make a mental health post for all you
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 4: ladies out there. It's okay sometimes if you can't if
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 4: you just can't mustard to clean your house today, or
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 4: it's okay if you just can't take care of your
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 4: kids today, or it's okay if you just can't be
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 4: the best version of yourself today. And my mom did
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 4: have like some weird fucking anxiety shit where she couldn't
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 4: even like get her hair cut because when they put
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 4: the cape on her, she'd have a freak out and
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 4: have to take like three xan X just to calm down.
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 4: Never once, she kept the house immaculately clean, washed the
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 4: sheets all the time, did all this. She never once
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 4: said I need a mental health day, can't take you
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 4: to school, or cook for you or clean the house up.
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I just is this a generational.
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 5: Thing or I mean it's become normalized and I do
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 5: think the.
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 4: Easiest version of yourself and just get a pass.
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that the world as we know it this
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 5: day and age is right for the picking for that
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 5: kind of mentality, and it is encouraged and it's taken
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 5: advantage of. And you know, like I said, it's kind
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 5: of like what you're saying with your mom for every
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 5: real fucking h what's the word I'm looking for, Like
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 5: inflicted person who's working their ass off to keep their
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 5: shit together, taking care of the responsibilities. There's people who
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 5: are just gonna know that they can. It'll slide if
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 5: they use those words mental health day. I'm sorry. I'm
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 5: not the best version of myself most days. You know,
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 5: when I'm being the best version of myself, that's a
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 5: fucking special moment. And I don't expect that to be
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 5: the norm. It doesn't mean I'm mentally ill. It just
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 5: means it's fuck my life's real. Yeah, And yeah, I
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 5: don't know. I've fucking felt like walking out of work
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 5: more times than I care to count. But I'm not
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 5: going to and I'm not saying I'm inflicted or it's
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 5: just like you said earlier, this is trendy and pushed
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 5: and it's meant to have a debilitated populace. So of
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 5: course this is one angle that they have you chosen
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 5: to use to get people under their thumb.
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 4: I just feel like people think if their life doesn't
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 4: look like a real on Faceboo Booker, Instagram or TikTok,
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 4: that they get depressed about it and it's like, oh,
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 4: my life doesn't look like this stuff I see on
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 4: social media. So I'm so.
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna swing that pendulum all the other way,
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 5: because yeah, I was thinking about that element of it
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 5: when you mentioned the Facebook thing the first time. Was
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 5: a lot of people make their life look fake good
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 5: on social media. The other people are embracing this, like
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 5: is anybody just like taking a picture of their poop
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 5: in the morning and being like, just had my coffee.
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 5: This is a good one, like real, just everyday shit,
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 5: like or look at those chunks of meat on the mirror.
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 5: I just flossed out. Now I'm gonna walk my dog
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 5: and get in a fight with the dog's neighbor. I'm
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 5: gonna take a picture of that. Like, No, it's either
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 5: like you're you're setting up a narrative of what your life,
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 5: what you want it to look like. Whether it's like
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 5: for me, I don't have the energy to fucking pick
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 5: up the house today and my kids aren't gonna get
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 5: a good dinner because it's okay to not be the best.
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 1: You try, you can try, but yeah, and my heart
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 1: goes up to those people who can't function because they're
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 1: debilitated by some fucking horrible mental affliction.
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  Speaker 4: I just th thing goes on social media, though everything goes.
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  Speaker 5: I think people who document their lives on a regular
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  Speaker 5: basis on social media are legitimately insane. Yeah, same, so sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Pictures of your own fucking face? Do you need to
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  Speaker 4: look at how people look at before you feel validated?
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  Speaker 5: Or even the more fucked up people plastering their kids
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  Speaker 5: all over the fucking main source of what pedophiles you
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  Speaker 5: use for victim Like, I remember how common it was
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  Speaker 5: using dating websites for women to be plastering their kids'
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  Speaker 5: faces on their profiles, And that's insane to me. The
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  Speaker 5: Internet legitimately is just a pool of insanity.
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  Speaker 4: So there is the reason I mention it is because
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  Speaker 4: there's levels to this shit. Obviously, not everybody is coming
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  Speaker 4: out and saying like there are some that are more
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  Speaker 4: fetishized than others, because you wouldn't say like, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 4: so proud to be schizophrenic, I'm.
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  Speaker 5: So proud to be a chronic masturbator. You know what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying anal dig on Sundays. It's the Nietzsche ones like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, it's just a lot of kids have a
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  Speaker 5: d D because it's so quick to label him that
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  Speaker 5: put him in the pipeline of that thing. But anyway, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: to wrap up on my end of this whole conversation,
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  Speaker 5: I just everything we've talked about. I wanted to close
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  Speaker 5: out with the quote by C. William King, and I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna be honest here, and I don't know who he is, okay,
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  Speaker 5: but I love the quote and it's been embellished and
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  Speaker 5: you know, spun off in other ways. You've probably heard it,
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  Speaker 5: but it is and in an insane world, a sane
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  Speaker 5: man must appear insane. And that wraps up my thoughts
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  Speaker 5: on insanity you're.
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  Speaker 4: Gonna get that tatted on your biele.
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  Speaker 5: No, I got it tatted right here backwards so I
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  Speaker 5: can see it in the mirror like a memento.
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  Speaker 4: That is a good quote.
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  Speaker 5: What are your closing thoughts?
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  Speaker 4: My closing thoughts are, like I said, there's levels to
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  Speaker 4: this shit. People think it's cute to like have some
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  Speaker 4: form of mental illness. I think that life is hard, okay.
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  Speaker 4: I think that people have completely lost coping mechanisms.
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  Speaker 5: Take up cigarettes like normal people.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can do that, or I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Or as Joe Rogan says, just exercise and hit the
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  Speaker 5: SNA and the cold plunge and do whim hof breathing
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  Speaker 5: and jiu jitsu, or you.
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  Speaker 4: Could do that. I just think that our societ is
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  Speaker 4: set up for instant gratification on every level, including pharmaceuticals. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know you're fat, Inject this ozipic. You're depressed, take
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  Speaker 4: an antidepressant, and if that doesn't work, we have an
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 4: antidepressant booster you can try. Oh you have anxiety, take this?
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 4: Oh you like? Trump wants to put all the homeless
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  Speaker 4: people in fucking Laurel Wood encampments to get filed away.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it's just our society is not set up
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  Speaker 4: in any way, shape or form to help people understand
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  Speaker 4: their own minds. And I think, like I said before,
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  Speaker 4: there's a spiritual and paranormal aspect to this. What if
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 4: you're like, this is gonna just be my last little
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 4: tangent and then I'm done. But you know that one
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 4: goes show I watch?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the one the Dead Files. Oh, that one,
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 5: because they're not just one where she gets.
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  Speaker 4: Like the psychic lady goes to their house and she'll
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 4: like tell them what all ghosts are in their house
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  Speaker 4: and like how they could be affecting the living people.
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  Speaker 4: Do you remember me watching that?
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  Speaker 5: I don't watch this. I've seen you watch it. I've
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  Speaker 5: noticed the woman has dead eyes. I don't believe her.
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  Speaker 5: I don't believe any of it. Just listen, I believe ghosts.
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  Speaker 5: I don't believe in ghost shows.
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  Speaker 4: All right. I'm just saying the concept of that show.
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  Speaker 4: What if people are literally being oppressed by an interdimensional
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  Speaker 4: realm that we have no understanding of, and they misunderstand
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  Speaker 4: it as anxiety and depression.
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  Speaker 5: That's what scientologists say. Really agnostics say, yeah, it's a
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 5: it's an misunderstood force has us held captive, and that
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  Speaker 5: is the basis of a lot of these newer religions.
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 4: Do you think that could be true in a way.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And the people writing the religions are the one
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 5: doing it. But then they give us the story of
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 5: Xenu or the story of the Demiurge. But basically those
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 5: things are metaphors. I mean, look at the matrix. These
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 5: are things that are metaphors. It's a misunderstood force and
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  Speaker 5: that's the reason we are this way.
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  Speaker 4: I just think that we're surrounded by this other realm
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  Speaker 4: at all times, and we could be afflicted by things
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  Speaker 4: that cause mental illness, and even on a smaller scale,
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 4: maybe you're not as sensitive to being affected by it,
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  Speaker 4: but like anxiety, depression, dark thoughts, it's like it could
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 4: literally be coming from not you.
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  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I believe that. I believe that sometimes when
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 5: you're in the flow state and you're writing, whether it's words,
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 5: you know, script to a podcast, a song, whatever it is,
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 5: if you just get in that flow state, yeah, it's
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 5: literally feels as though you're channeling. And I got to
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 5: think that if you can channel good things, you can
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 5: channel bad things, you can channel anything in between, and yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I do think a lot of this insanity comes from
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 5: that for sure. Whether that makes me a scientologist or
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 5: a gnostic, I doubt, but they do run with those
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  Speaker 5: notions of.
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  Speaker 4: Truth behind every big scam I guess. But thanks for
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 4: joining me for this series. I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: Do you feel you're welcome?
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  Speaker 4: Do you feel more or less insane after covering.
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 5: This neither same amount of insane.
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 4: I feel like I learned some stuff that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, it was very fun researching.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, I feel like I learned
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 4: some stuff I would have never imagined to find. Actually,
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  Speaker 4: but we'll keep you posted on the bonus episode depends
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  Speaker 4: if I have a baby hanging halfway out my badge
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  Speaker 4: or not, if we could get that accomplished.
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 5: If it's hanging three quarters of the way out, we'll
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 5: probably squeeze in an episode.
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 4: Squeeze in an episode if it's just.
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 5: Like barely getting there.
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but this has been a really fun series. Do
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  Speaker 4: you want to plug anything.
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  Speaker 5: Conspiracy? Playtime? Find it wherever? Yeah, that's not why I
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 5: do this. But if you want to listen to my show,
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 5: if you don't like me and when I'm with Julia,
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  Speaker 5: don't worry about it. If you do like me and
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 5: you want to hear more, that'd be the place.
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  Speaker 4: And he has an only fans.
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's on hiatus right now. My butthole doesn't
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  Speaker 5: look good in the month of September.
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  Speaker 4: But there are previous butthole shots you can go and
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  Speaker 4: find on his only Fans. It's called spiracy be whole time.
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  Speaker 5: It's late.
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  Speaker 4: And I also wanted to shout out thanks for anyone
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  Speaker 4: who had went on the registring and got us gifts
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  Speaker 4: for Baby Conspiracy Peach. We appreciate it and thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 4: And with that being said, I have one very important,
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  Speaker 4: vital piece of information I need you to learn just
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  Speaker 4: as soon as humanly possible.
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  Speaker 4: One, Hello, and welcome back to the third installment of
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  Speaker 4: the Conspirassylum series. This is insane in the then brain.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 4: This was your pick.
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  Speaker 5: I picked that for the kture and it doesn't make
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  Speaker 5: sense for the pop culture.
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  Speaker 4: Should we what should we call it?
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  Speaker 5: Sinecilo cinemania.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good one.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 5: I was going off what you said, though, because I
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  Speaker 5: was thinking, like I was actually thinking of me. I
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  Speaker 5: was thinking of Mania, and I was trying to like
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  Speaker 5: to put Hollywood in there somehow, and there's nothing was rolling.
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  Speaker 5: And then as soon as you said sin asylum, I
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  Speaker 5: was like, cinemania group aroup. Yeah, you will just start over. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: by four three two one, we'll think you're waiting for
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  Speaker 5: something else.
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  Speaker 2: Okay,