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Fictional Women Around the World: Naru · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and allcome stuff. Never
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  Speaker 1: told you protection of iHeartRadio and welcome to another sub
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  Speaker 1: sub sub sub sub segment. Fictional women around the world's
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  Speaker 1: only four subs. You think, I don't think, so, okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's like sub We have a lot of segments. We
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of segments, and this is one and
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  Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite ones, to be honest, uh,
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  Speaker 1: And today we are talking about one of my favorites.
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  Speaker 1: But as I warned Samantha before this, this is a
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  Speaker 1: spoiler warning. We are talking about the new Predator movies
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just going to tell you that I personally
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  Speaker 1: did not anticipate what happened in the new Killer of
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  Speaker 1: Killers they animated Predator movie, and it's kind of a
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  Speaker 1: big deal. So if you don't want to know, then
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  Speaker 1: I would say skip this. Also, none of these are
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  Speaker 1: sponsors that we're gonna be talking about. And you can
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  Speaker 1: see the episode we did on Pray the movie which
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  Speaker 1: is Predator movie, because today we are talking about Nanu
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  Speaker 1: from who is the main protagonist of that movie. So
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  Speaker 1: Predator bad Lands just came out in theaters. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen it yet, but I have been spoiled on it.
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  Speaker 1: We're not gonna be talking about We're not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: talking about that actually, but that's out in theaters and
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  Speaker 1: Predator Killer of Killers is on streaming, And if you
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  Speaker 1: go back and listen to our episode we did on Prey,
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  Speaker 1: I was speculating about what would happen in the next ones.
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  Speaker 1: I was way off. It was so far off. I oh,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't hide it. I wasn't even I
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  Speaker 1: was in a different galaxy than what they did. And
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  Speaker 1: so I really wanted to come back and talk about
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  Speaker 1: this fictional character of Nadho. I love that. I love Pray.
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  Speaker 1: I love that movie so much, and I watched it
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  Speaker 1: every November. For some reason, it feels like a November
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  Speaker 1: movie to me. It is very beautiful movie. It's also
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  Speaker 1: kind of I think maybe why it feels like a
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  Speaker 1: November movie is it's got the like colonization. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: was gonna say, like the Native Americans and yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which again you can see that episode for more detail.
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  Speaker 1: But they are painted. The colonizers are painted rightfully in
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  Speaker 1: a bad light. I just want to put out there.
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  Speaker 1: So when we're talking about Nadu Naan, who was played
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  Speaker 1: by Amber mid Thunder, and she is a woman member
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  Speaker 1: of the Kamanchi tribe in It takes place in seventeen nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: and she was first introduced in Dan Tratchenberg's twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: two film Prey, which is part of the Predator franchise.
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  Speaker 1: I actually loved the Predator franchise, and doing this research
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  Speaker 1: was really fun because I hadn't thought about I hadn't
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  Speaker 1: thought about some of the ways that it's so up
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  Speaker 1: until this point, which Dan Trachenberg has done the last
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  Speaker 1: three It was a very like macho guy finding a
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  Speaker 1: pretty macho predator, and then you get into Pray and
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  Speaker 1: that's just not what it is anymore, and you get
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  Speaker 1: into bad Lands and I read I read an article
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  Speaker 1: about it and the title was going woke. Didn't go
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  Speaker 1: broke because it made a lot, It made a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money, and they were like, but the whole plot
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  Speaker 1: is that maybe the whole warrior thing isn't as much
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  Speaker 1: as it's built up to be the for the Predator.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, anyway, So this movie Prey was historic in
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  Speaker 1: a lot of ways, including the fact that it has
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  Speaker 1: an option to watch it in the Comanche language, which
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  Speaker 1: was kind of a first and including a cast of
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  Speaker 1: largely Indigenous people. It also was the first film in
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  Speaker 1: the franchise to center a woman protagonist. So despite being
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  Speaker 1: a very capable warrior, Nadru's family doesn't want her to
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  Speaker 1: be a hunter like her brother Tabe. And this is
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  Speaker 1: a very important note. I say her family because most
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  Speaker 1: indigenous tribes were much They didn't think lesser of women
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  Speaker 1: or lock them out of any skill, as opposed to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of our Western society. It was that her
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  Speaker 1: family specifically didn't want her to do it. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: want her to be a hunter. But everyone else, almost
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  Speaker 1: everyone else, sees her skills, so I do think that's
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  Speaker 1: worth pointing out. She is very vocal about what she wants,
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  Speaker 1: which is to be a hunter, but she is consistently
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  Speaker 1: shot down and comments multiple times that everybody underestimates her
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  Speaker 1: and that's what makes her so dangerous. When asked why
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  Speaker 1: she wants to hunt, she says, because you all think
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  Speaker 1: I can't. She was very determined. She worked hard with
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  Speaker 1: her dog on her hunting skills. If you listen to
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  Speaker 1: the episode on Prey, you know that dog is from Atlanta,
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  Speaker 1: is named Coco and caused a lot of chaos on set. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: every time I watch the movie, I'm just thinking how
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  Speaker 1: they everybody filming was like cocoa please through. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: love it. Nard She's very creative in her weaponry too,
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  Speaker 1: which is something I really love. She attaches a rope
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  Speaker 1: to her tomahawk. One day while out hunting, she sees
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  Speaker 1: a cloaked ship and believes it to be a sign
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  Speaker 1: of her right of passage into hunting her kutamea. After
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  Speaker 1: one of their people goes missing, a search party is
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  Speaker 1: sent out and Nadhu follows them, determined to be part
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  Speaker 1: of the effort. Her brother convinses the group that it's
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  Speaker 1: worth keeping her around because she's a healer, she has
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  Speaker 1: all these other skills. They find the person they're searching
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  Speaker 1: for and Nadho heals him. They set up traps and
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  Speaker 1: they schedule watches for the night for the lion that
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  Speaker 1: they believed had killed the member of their party. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Nardu is not She's seeing these odd signs, strange footprints,
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  Speaker 1: animals killed in odd methods, like a snake just peeled
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  Speaker 1: in half. So she's on edge and she does end
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  Speaker 1: up fighting the lion. It's a really cool scene and
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  Speaker 1: at the time, witnesses an odd flash of red and
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  Speaker 1: falls from the tree that she was in, losing consciousness.
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  Speaker 1: When she wakes up, her mother basically tells her that
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  Speaker 1: there's a not the life for you, and her brother
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  Speaker 1: is appointed war chief. No one really believed what not
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  Speaker 1: who had seen, so she set out herself with her
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  Speaker 1: dog Saudie to find the creature hunting them. On the way,
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  Speaker 1: she encountered dead animals and eventually sees a bear getting
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  Speaker 1: killed by a semi invisible force. She flees and meets
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  Speaker 1: up with a search party that are looking for her. However,
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  Speaker 1: they do not believe her and they start to drag
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  Speaker 1: her back to their home, and on the way they
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  Speaker 1: are attacked by a feral predator which side note, I
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  Speaker 1: learned so much terminology about the specific types of predators,
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  Speaker 1: but this is a fairal predator who kills pretty much
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  Speaker 1: everybody except for Nanu, who is able to free herself
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  Speaker 1: and flee because they had actually tied her up to
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  Speaker 1: take her home until she was caught in a bear
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  Speaker 1: trap and the predator ignores her. He sees her and
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  Speaker 1: ignores her, but she is caught and caged by French colonizers,
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  Speaker 1: and this is when Nanu observes that the predator also didn't.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't view her as a threat. That's why he left.
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  Speaker 1: That's not how he hunts. As she says, her brother
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  Speaker 1: is also captured and they are used as bait for
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  Speaker 1: the predator. But again she's like, this is not He's
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  Speaker 1: not into bait. He wants the thrill of the hunt. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and he sees them as not a threat, leaves them be.
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  Speaker 1: Naru escapes and frees her dog, Tabe and not who fought.
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  Speaker 1: They fight the predator and not who notices several pieces
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  Speaker 1: of the predator's fighting style and also how his bone
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  Speaker 1: helmet works. However, the predator does kill Tabe. Nadho catches
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  Speaker 1: one of the colonizers who had imprisoned her and her
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  Speaker 1: brother and uses him as bait, masking her own presence
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  Speaker 1: from the predator with some of her medicinal knowledge. It
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  Speaker 1: dropped her temperature. It was this flower that dropped her temperature.
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  Speaker 1: The predator kills her bait, and in the following skirmish
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  Speaker 1: she was able to steal. Yeah, she gets this bone
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  Speaker 1: mass that she knows is really a part of how
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  Speaker 1: he hunts. She prepared a lot of traps and engaged
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  Speaker 1: him in battle, cutting off his arm and eventually killing him.
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  Speaker 1: She carried his head back to her people and was
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  Speaker 1: named the new or chief of the tribe. Here comes
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  Speaker 1: your spoiler. You can hop right out if you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to hear it. And then she was captured by
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  Speaker 1: the predators and cryo freezed for centuries, presumably for gladiatorial combat.
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  Speaker 1: So essentially, any person who has killed a predator they
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  Speaker 1: have captured and froze and they want them to fight
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  Speaker 1: it out. And the plot of Killer of Killers is
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  Speaker 1: it's an anthology. And so you see how each of
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  Speaker 1: these people killed a predator which they have a name
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  Speaker 1: and I can't pronounce it, but predators and want them
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  Speaker 1: to fight to the death. That's not fair, I know,
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  Speaker 1: because they're the quote strongest of prey. So in the
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  Speaker 1: like finale of that movie, all of the competitors come
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  Speaker 1: to the realization that we have to fight together if
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  Speaker 1: we're going to get out of this. So that was
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  Speaker 1: the plot, which is another thing. People were like, it's
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  Speaker 1: so woke. Now I'm like, well, they're working together woke,
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  Speaker 1: like kill each other like what we According to them,
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  Speaker 1: it's a larger conversation. I'm not going to get into
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  Speaker 1: but according to them, it was like the whole point
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  Speaker 1: of Predators. You know, you kill everybody. But anyway, n
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  Speaker 1: Who is only in it as a cameo. She is
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  Speaker 1: not one of the ones who participates in this gladatory
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  Speaker 1: of battle, but it's shown that she's there, and so
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  Speaker 1: I think it's setting up that she's going to be
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  Speaker 1: in the next one. And the director has said he
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  Speaker 1: wants to continue her story, and really she was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be in the new one, bad Lands, but he
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  Speaker 1: wanted to which, by the way, bad Lands is it's
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  Speaker 1: from a idea that he had from Empire Strike's Back
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  Speaker 1: where Chewbaka would carry Cee three po on his back,
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  Speaker 1: which if you have seen any images from that maybe
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  Speaker 1: at all, that's kind of what it is. And he said,
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  Speaker 1: I wished I could have seen a whole movie where
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  Speaker 1: it was just to Boca's like that, and so that's
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  Speaker 1: where the idea came from. But non who was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be in the sequel, But I think he's doing
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  Speaker 1: a bigger thing because you know who else was in
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  Speaker 1: Cryo Freeze, Arnold Swarzaiger's character. Really Listen when I say
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  Speaker 1: this blew my mind. I was. I couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So that's where she is right now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to assume that she's going to have a story.
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  Speaker 1: Her story is going to be continued in one way
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  Speaker 1: or another. But yeah, that's it makes me. I'm like
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  Speaker 1: sad because she she defeated this predator and then they
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  Speaker 1: were like, you know what, Let's make her fight in
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  Speaker 1: a gladatorial battle in the future on a different planet,
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  Speaker 1: all right, let her be the warrior that she's supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, exactly, damn exactly. Yeah, and she is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's really cool, Like watching it again last night,
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  Speaker 1: which I was telling Samantha, I stayda really late last
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  Speaker 1: night watching these movies. Uh, she's just she's cool. She's
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  Speaker 1: the way she uh throws her weapon and she has
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  Speaker 1: like this kick move off trees that I love. She's
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  Speaker 1: just a really adaptive, observant, smart character. And even though
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  Speaker 1: she's gas lit when she's saying, hey, I believe there's
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  Speaker 1: something out there, she knows that there's something out there,
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  Speaker 1: and she takes the steps to defeat the enemy and
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  Speaker 1: she's a quick learner. A lot of the time, when
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  Speaker 1: someone defeats predator, it's because they're smart. It's not because
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  Speaker 1: of how strong they are. Necessarily is because they figure
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  Speaker 1: out how the predator hunts, and then they adapt and
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  Speaker 1: are able to get the upper hand, which is what
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  Speaker 1: she did, and which is what all of them are about.
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  Speaker 1: But a killer of killers. It's three stories, and every
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  Speaker 1: one of them is pretty much that. How they figured
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  Speaker 1: out the heat signature thing that they can't see unless
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  Speaker 1: but unless without the heat signature. I did want to
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  Speaker 1: bring this up because I didn't mention it when we
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  Speaker 1: did the Prey episode. But at one point in the movie,
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  Speaker 1: she whistles at night, which was a controversial moment because
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  Speaker 1: whistling at night for a lot of indigenous people is
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  Speaker 1: akin to summoning an evil spirit. So there was some
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  Speaker 1: stuff written about that when that happened. But some argue
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  Speaker 1: that this was on purpose and that the predator is
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  Speaker 1: a demon and she that's They did work with the
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  Speaker 1: Kamanchi tribe, So I don't know. I just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: mention that because that was a point. I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: they must have known what that meant and put it
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  Speaker 1: in there purposefully. But that's really widely known. Like just
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  Speaker 1: like Appalachia folklore is based on that as well. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just I just remembered that. I don't think we
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  Speaker 1: talked about that in our Prey episode, but I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to put that out there also. Yes, as i've there's
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  Speaker 1: been a lot of articles about Predator going woke, too woke,
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  Speaker 1: and essentially that this idea of usually Maho dude fighting
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  Speaker 1: a Maho alien, that's what the heart of it has been,
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  Speaker 1: and now it's now it's changing. And not to spoil
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  Speaker 1: too much of bad Lands, but I guess the main
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  Speaker 1: character in that is sort of a runt. He's seen
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  Speaker 1: as a runt in his family and kind of shamed
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  Speaker 1: for that, and in the end he finds found family.
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  Speaker 1: He goes against his family, finds a found family, including
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  Speaker 1: an android, which directly connects it to Alien. So that's
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  Speaker 1: really interesting. But yeah, yeah, I love this movie. I
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  Speaker 1: know I said it when we did the Prey episode,
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  Speaker 1: but I watched Predator at my sixteenth birthday party. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what was going on, but I have loved
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  Speaker 1: these movies for a while, and I when I saw Pray,
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  Speaker 1: I just thought, this is I'm so happy this exists,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just a really beautiful imagery. Wise, it's a
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  Speaker 1: really beautiful movie. And the director said purposely he wanted
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  Speaker 1: something people have and seen before, and that's why he
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  Speaker 1: wanted an indigenous woman because it had been previously to
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  Speaker 1: that pretty much all men. Yeah, so I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it too. It is a really good movie.
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  Speaker 1: I oh, well, I did it. Your Households scared me.
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  Speaker 1: It scared me. Sowhat. I did like it though. It
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  Speaker 1: was fun, But I'm excited to see how her story goes.
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  Speaker 1: I was shocked when I saw her cryopes. Was not
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  Speaker 1: expecting that. Was not expecting that at all. Uh can
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  Speaker 1: you imagine how disorienting that would be to wake up?
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, it's a lot of a lot of things. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's worrying think about that. Yes, for sure, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm we'll re visit once that once the story continues.
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