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- 0:00Speaker 1: Monday, October twenty third, This is Jack Wars Happy Hour.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and
- 0:12Speaker 1: now a guy who doesn't really see the need for
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- 0:26Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday Week eight
- 0:30Speaker 2: about to begin. The Jaguars head to Pittsburgh and Primanny
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- 0:42Speaker 2: and Jaguars YouTube. Busy show ahead of course for the
- 0:45Speaker 2: next two hours will recap the Jaguars. Thursday Night Football
- 0:49Speaker 2: went over the Saints thirty one, twenty four and now
- 0:51Speaker 2: four straight wins in four different stadiums in three different
- 0:55Speaker 2: cities in a span of seven time zones in nineteen
- 0:59Speaker 2: days for the the Jaguars to get to a five
- 1:01Speaker 2: and two record, a well deserved many bye week and
- 1:04Speaker 2: now the Steelers next. We'll keep it real, of course,
- 1:06Speaker 2: and fanatics fan questions in the second hour. Pete Prisco
- 1:10Speaker 2: from cbssports dot Com and Tony Vasselli of Football Fame
- 1:17Speaker 2: and the Pro Football Hall of Fame is with us.
- 1:19Speaker 2: What's up beat a JP?
- 1:21Speaker 3: Look, he has his buss behind him as we do this.
- 1:25Speaker 4: They can't be the angle that they have. They can't
- 1:28Speaker 4: see it.
- 1:29Speaker 2: We can fix that. I believe I have my bobblehead.
- 1:35Speaker 4: Where's the bus?
- 1:37Speaker 5: Well, here's my bobblehead. Does it look like me? Probably not,
- 1:40Speaker 5: because it has hair, so it doesn't look like me.
- 1:43Speaker 4: It looks much better than you, dude.
- 1:44Speaker 2: There's some big arms on that bibblehead, Pete, big arms
- 1:47Speaker 2: on that thing.
- 1:49Speaker 3: Well those ours are pretty good now.
- 1:51Speaker 5: But Vasselli, that's not the real bust is in can
- 1:56Speaker 5: So that can't be the reast.
- 1:58Speaker 3: So what is it you have?
- 1:59Speaker 4: When?
- 2:00Speaker 6: No, no, When they give you a when they put
- 2:03Speaker 6: your bust in the Hall of Fame, they give you
- 2:07Speaker 6: a replica as well. And so it's it's the exact
- 2:11Speaker 6: same bust that's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
- 2:15Speaker 6: Outside of this one is not bronze. It's just the clay,
- 2:19Speaker 6: hardened clay. But it's the exact same. It looks outside
- 2:23Speaker 6: of the one can't be in bronze, this one being
- 2:28Speaker 6: some kind of hard clay or however they finish it.
- 2:31Speaker 6: It's the exact same thing.
- 2:33Speaker 5: Did you I forgot to ask you. I don't think
- 2:35Speaker 5: I ever really asked you this, even though we took
- 2:36Speaker 5: pictures with.
- 2:37Speaker 3: It when we were up there. Do you think it
- 2:38Speaker 3: looks like you?
- 2:39Speaker 4: Yeah? I do, especially a younger me.
- 2:41Speaker 6: So they did it because I asked, what like era
- 2:44Speaker 6: of your career, and so I found a picture like
- 2:46Speaker 6: year three or four, I can't remember what it was,
- 2:49Speaker 6: So it's like twenty six year old Tony Boselli.
- 2:52Speaker 3: So it's a glamour shot.
- 2:56Speaker 4: Well, im sure the hell wasn't gonna do fifty one
- 2:58Speaker 4: year old Tony.
- 2:58Speaker 3: Michelle that they had like limbs over.
- 3:04Speaker 4: You would have fake parts.
- 3:07Speaker 2: It's fantastic. It's fantastic that it's on his desk behind him, Pete,
- 3:11Speaker 2: that's that's amazing. That's really what.
- 3:14Speaker 6: I didn't put it there. To be clear, my wife did.
- 3:18Speaker 6: I did not decorate my wife.
- 3:20Speaker 3: You know what we're kidding you, But you should be
- 3:22Speaker 3: proud of that.
- 3:22Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 3:24Speaker 4: Oh I'm not taking it as a slight.
- 3:25Speaker 6: I'm just saying, whether someone likes it or dislikes it,
- 3:28Speaker 6: I had nothing to do with it.
- 3:30Speaker 5: Because if I had one, that damn thing would be
- 3:32Speaker 5: right behind.
- 3:33Speaker 2: It would be in front of the camera, in front
- 3:36Speaker 2: of Pete. He would just show it all shit. Maybe
- 3:39Speaker 2: he would do all right. So let's get to this
- 3:41Speaker 2: Jaguars team, and let's I mean, let's start with Thursday
- 3:44Speaker 2: night and the quarterback play Trevor Lawrence game time decision. Officially,
- 3:50Speaker 2: he got the early workout in and the green light
- 3:53Speaker 2: when he was not among the inactives, and he comes
- 3:55Speaker 2: out there with the brace on his left knee, and
- 3:59Speaker 2: he ends up as the leading rusher in the game somehow,
- 4:03Speaker 2: and then throws a touchdown pass, a little short one
- 4:05Speaker 2: over the middle of Christian Kirk runs the rest of
- 4:07Speaker 2: the way for the go ahead touchdown with just over
- 4:09Speaker 2: three minutes to play. But just the fact that Lawrence
- 4:12Speaker 2: was even playing on a short week to begin with,
- 4:14Speaker 2: and then the way he played. Yes, the offense had
- 4:17Speaker 2: a lullpet middle of the game, I'd say, but they
- 4:20Speaker 2: found ways and they got it done. And Trevor's battle
- 4:24Speaker 2: through that knee Andrew was a big reason.
- 4:27Speaker 5: Well, I think it says a lot about him as
- 4:29Speaker 5: a player. We knew that, We said that last week
- 4:32Speaker 5: before the show, before the game.
- 4:33Speaker 3: We said. We think he played because he's a competitor,
- 4:35Speaker 3: and that's what he is. I mean, he's a tough guy.
- 4:38Speaker 5: But not only that, to be able to run the
- 4:40Speaker 5: way he did, I mean, you could see these plays
- 4:42Speaker 5: here as we watch them on YouTube or this is
- 4:45Speaker 5: incredible to me that he was able to do that.
- 4:49Speaker 3: It wasn't a great offensive.
- 4:51Speaker 5: Performance by any stretch of the imagination, but to go
- 4:54Speaker 5: there against that defense in that environment and play period
- 4:57Speaker 5: and then play the way he did is a testament
- 5:01Speaker 5: to hint him.
- 5:01Speaker 3: Tony, You've been in many a locker room. I guarantee
- 5:04Speaker 3: you the.
- 5:04Speaker 5: Players looked around that locker room and his respect level
- 5:08Speaker 5: went up even higher.
- 5:10Speaker 6: Yeah, my guess is, Pete, nobody was surprised he played
- 5:14Speaker 6: in the locker room because they know what type of
- 5:17Speaker 6: guy he is. I mean, I think he has shown
- 5:19Speaker 6: that he is. You know, he's the leader of the
- 5:22Speaker 6: franchise from a player perspective, and to me, for what
- 5:28Speaker 6: he did is just going to entrench out even more
- 5:30Speaker 6: in the locker room because to your point, I'll just
- 5:33Speaker 6: speak from an offensive line perspective.
- 5:35Speaker 4: When you know you have a.
- 5:36Speaker 6: Tough guy back there, and the guy that's going to
- 5:39Speaker 6: go to battle when he's not one hundred percent because
- 5:42Speaker 6: none of us are up front one hundred percent.
- 5:45Speaker 4: Ever, he just says something.
- 5:47Speaker 6: And you know, when I played, I mean, there was
- 5:50Speaker 6: no secret that Mark was one of the tougher guys
- 5:52Speaker 6: and played through stuff and rarely complained or anything else
- 5:57Speaker 6: about getting hit. And that means something to the guys
- 5:59Speaker 6: up front. And I thought Trevor played great. It was
- 6:03Speaker 6: it was really interesting to me pregame talking to some
- 6:05Speaker 6: of the coaches.
- 6:06Speaker 4: They you know, they didn't know, they did not know
- 6:09Speaker 4: whether he was going to play or not. When he
- 6:10Speaker 4: came out and warmed up. It was up to him,
- 6:13Speaker 4: which was crystal clear.
- 6:15Speaker 6: The other thing is they figured if he would play
- 6:17Speaker 6: that he would be pretty immobile, and they thought that
- 6:21Speaker 6: was a disadvantage because the Saints give up a lot
- 6:23Speaker 6: of quarterback rushing yards because they play so much man coverage,
- 6:28Speaker 6: and so back to the quarterback, and if you have
- 6:29Speaker 6: an athletic quarterback, you know they can take advantage of it.
- 6:33Speaker 6: And they said, we probably won't be able to take
- 6:34Speaker 6: advantage of today. And then there goes Trevor Lawrence doing
- 6:39Speaker 6: what Trevor Lawrence does, and so I thought it was
- 6:42Speaker 6: a great performance. I give a lot of credit to
- 6:44Speaker 6: that offensive line. You play a football game against the Saints.
- 6:47Speaker 6: Now they're not great pass rushers, but it's one of
- 6:49Speaker 6: the best defenses in the NFL overall defenses.
- 6:52Speaker 4: And you give up one pressure, zero hits, zero.
- 6:56Speaker 6: Sacks in a football game and the pretty dang good bete.
- 7:03Speaker 5: And watching the tape, I thought the tackles both played
- 7:06Speaker 5: really well. They handled their guys on the edge, and
- 7:10Speaker 5: they're good football players. Granderson's a good player and camp
- 7:14Speaker 5: Jordan's probably not quite the player.
- 7:16Speaker 3: Used to be, but still good. But I thought Harrison
- 7:18Speaker 3: did some good things against him as well.
- 7:20Speaker 5: And so yeah, I thought the offensive line as a
- 7:24Speaker 5: group was better, and they had to be. And sometimes Tony,
- 7:28Speaker 5: it takes something like that to kind of maybe, you know,
- 7:32Speaker 5: I gotta be even better today to protect that guy.
- 7:35Speaker 5: And I think that showed up in a big way.
- 7:37Speaker 5: I like what I saw from the offensive line. And
- 7:40Speaker 5: you know what happens now Walker Little goes in and
- 7:43Speaker 5: plays left guard, right that if he comes back this week,
- 7:45Speaker 5: so they should.
- 7:46Speaker 3: Be even better on that offensive line going forward.
- 7:50Speaker 5: It was not a great offensive performance, though, I mean
- 7:54Speaker 5: it was good for what he was and what he
- 7:57Speaker 5: is in terms of being banged up. But it just
- 8:00Speaker 5: seems at times they get a little disjointed, and I
- 8:03Speaker 5: don't know why it still has. I mean, they're scoring
- 8:06Speaker 5: points and they're moving the football times, but they, like
- 8:09Speaker 5: you mentioned JP, they have those lolls and personally and
- 8:13Speaker 5: this is gonna.
- 8:13Speaker 3: Be a peat rant.
- 8:15Speaker 2: Okay, can't wait.
- 8:17Speaker 3: I think it's too.
- 8:18Speaker 5: Horizontal the offense for my liking. And I'm gonna go
- 8:23Speaker 5: back to the winning play. They had man de man
- 8:29Speaker 5: coverage or actually they had zone on the other side.
- 8:31Speaker 5: I think if they kind of doubled Calvin Ridley and
- 8:35Speaker 5: so he was in man the man, but the middle
- 8:38Speaker 5: of the field was wide open.
- 8:41Speaker 3: I think they need.
- 8:42Speaker 5: To operate more in there than they have been and
- 8:44Speaker 5: even get them down the field some. Now some of
- 8:47Speaker 5: that in the last couple of weeks is the injury or
- 8:49Speaker 5: last week the injury. You want to get the ball
- 8:51Speaker 5: out quick and not have him standing there. But if
- 8:54Speaker 5: he was capable of running the way he ran, he's
- 8:58Speaker 5: capable of going through his rusians and getting the ball
- 9:01Speaker 5: down the field. Now there there's some opportunities and Calvin Ridley,
- 9:04Speaker 5: everybody asked me, what why was they.
- 9:06Speaker 3: Doubled Calvin Ridley a ton in that game.
- 9:09Speaker 5: That's why he didn't you know that, that's why the
- 9:11Speaker 5: shots weren't going to him. But I think that it's
- 9:14Speaker 5: too much this way sometimes instead of that way for me.
- 9:19Speaker 6: Well, I'll say this, Pete. I'm not going to disagree
- 9:22Speaker 6: with you. I think you make a fair point. But
- 9:25Speaker 6: I'll say this.
- 9:26Speaker 4: I thought the first maybe three drives you could throw
- 9:30Speaker 4: the throwing, the uh the unfortunate turnover by Christian it
- 9:35Speaker 4: was the best.
- 9:35Speaker 6: The offenses looked, well, there we go. Didn think thing,
- 9:38Speaker 6: think handoff, think thing thing, think handoff, crosser, big play,
- 9:43Speaker 6: thinking touchdown. I'm like, I was like literally after the
- 9:46Speaker 6: first three drives, I'm like they might score, like they
- 9:50Speaker 6: the Saints have no answer.
- 9:52Speaker 4: And then we went into the wall. You know, had
- 9:55Speaker 4: a turnover.
- 9:57Speaker 6: You know, everyone talks about how little time we were
- 9:59Speaker 6: on the field where we had to turn over after
- 10:00Speaker 6: one play, Saints getting back, We had the punt mouth
- 10:04Speaker 6: Saints getting back, and.
- 10:05Speaker 4: So right there is gonna eat a lot of way
- 10:07Speaker 4: you lose that.
- 10:08Speaker 6: What people don't realize, the big thing around turnovers is
- 10:12Speaker 6: not just that the other team gets the ball. You
- 10:14Speaker 6: lose a possession, you lose an offensive possession to go
- 10:18Speaker 6: like put points on the board, and you only have
- 10:22Speaker 6: in today's.
- 10:22Speaker 4: NFL, you know, eleven to thirteen possessions a game, and
- 10:27Speaker 4: so you lose too.
- 10:29Speaker 6: You're almost at you know, you're just under twenty percent
- 10:31Speaker 6: of your possessions out the door.
- 10:33Speaker 4: And it was you know, so that I think, you know,
- 10:38Speaker 4: took them out.
- 10:38Speaker 3: Of the rhythm a little bit. I think about the rhythm.
- 10:40Speaker 4: Rhythm because we I thought we had it going early
- 10:43Speaker 4: and then we had the lull.
- 10:45Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know what, Tony that that play where
- 10:47Speaker 5: Kirk fumbled, Those are the kind of things they need
- 10:50Speaker 5: to see more of.
- 10:51Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 10:52Speaker 5: From in my mind, I think they need to do
- 10:55Speaker 5: more of that, and and get him in the middle
- 10:57Speaker 5: of the field, get Ingram in the middle of the field.
- 10:59Speaker 5: Almost at times they get too cute and I and
- 11:04Speaker 5: that's kind.
- 11:05Speaker 3: Of an epidemic in the NFL these days. They get
- 11:07Speaker 3: to just play football.
- 11:08Speaker 5: You don't necessarily have to run the reverses and the
- 11:11Speaker 5: little swings and the this.
- 11:12Speaker 3: And get the lineman out and go out there. I
- 11:15Speaker 3: get it. You want to make them defend the entire
- 11:18Speaker 3: field with wise. I get that.
- 11:20Speaker 5: It helps open up everything else, but you don't have
- 11:22Speaker 5: to do it all the time.
- 11:24Speaker 3: And so I that's my.
- 11:25Speaker 5: Personal take is I think they need to get more
- 11:27Speaker 5: into the middle of the field and get more vertical
- 11:29Speaker 5: down the field.
- 11:31Speaker 2: As part of that, though, just the personnel that has
- 11:34Speaker 2: not been out there. Some say Jones has missed four
- 11:36Speaker 2: games already and you know half of another one. And
- 11:40Speaker 2: then the offensive line's been shuffling around a bit.
- 11:44Speaker 5: You know, they haven't trusted the offensive line all year
- 11:46Speaker 5: in the middle, particularly that that's been a concern. So yeah,
- 11:49Speaker 5: I think that had I think they've called plays to
- 11:53Speaker 5: their fear and and but as you get into a
- 11:56Speaker 5: game and it's not a fear, then you have to
- 11:58Speaker 5: get away from that. And I'm think at times they
- 12:01Speaker 5: sometimes get away from it.
- 12:02Speaker 3: And and but.
- 12:03Speaker 5: When they had to score, when they had to go
- 12:05Speaker 5: get that touchdown, what did they do. They got him
- 12:08Speaker 5: locked up in man coverage in an option route. Boom
- 12:11Speaker 5: boom gone. They just think they need to get into
- 12:14Speaker 5: that area more than that way.
- 12:17Speaker 3: And I get it, it opens up the.
- 12:19Speaker 5: Middle when you are threatening horizontally, But I just think
- 12:23Speaker 5: this kind of stuff needs to happen more, and I
- 12:25Speaker 5: think it's available to him.
- 12:27Speaker 6: I want to know where the wheels on Christian Kirk
- 12:29Speaker 6: came from. He just he ran away from everybody on
- 12:33Speaker 6: the Saints on this little option route.
- 12:35Speaker 3: Beat Yeah, and Etn made a nice little like little
- 12:38Speaker 3: block there. Watch right there. That's all I had to
- 12:40Speaker 3: do was get in front of him.
- 12:41Speaker 5: He couldn't hit them because it would have been a blindsider,
- 12:43Speaker 5: and he kind of just got in front of him.
- 12:44Speaker 2: They took out three guys with one shot there.
- 12:47Speaker 4: Kirk looked fast on this play.
- 12:49Speaker 3: He really, That's what I mean.
- 12:50Speaker 5: And get him in the middle of the field and
- 12:52Speaker 5: these kind of situations, and get him on those over
- 12:54Speaker 5: routes where he comes across and gets over like the
- 12:57Speaker 5: one he fumbled.
- 12:58Speaker 3: I mean, I just think Ingram in the middle of
- 13:01Speaker 3: the field.
- 13:01Speaker 5: You know, the Saints had come into the game having
- 13:03Speaker 5: problems defended at a tight end and they didn't get it.
- 13:05Speaker 3: I thought they'd get him into the middle of the field,
- 13:06Speaker 3: and they did, and they went away from it.
- 13:10Speaker 6: And then Trevor actually missed throw early where Ingram had
- 13:14Speaker 6: separation on man and if he gets if he hits him,
- 13:17Speaker 6: he could ran away from the defender.
- 13:19Speaker 5: And how many throwback passes are they going to use
- 13:23Speaker 5: I mean it's like one a week. Seriously, some teams
- 13:28Speaker 5: go games without using anything like that.
- 13:31Speaker 4: We go, we went years.
- 13:35Speaker 3: I mean it's just they gotta cut. See. I just
- 13:38Speaker 3: that's the cute of the offense.
- 13:40Speaker 5: And I don't necessarily think it has to be cute,
- 13:42Speaker 5: particularly if you get Walker little back into the middle
- 13:44Speaker 5: of that line, if you get little back. Cam Robinson
- 13:47Speaker 5: is playing good football.
- 13:48Speaker 4: Tony.
- 13:48Speaker 5: We you know, we were wondering how he would play.
- 13:50Speaker 5: I think he's playing good football over there. I think
- 13:52Speaker 5: the rookie right tackles getting much better. You can isolate
- 13:55Speaker 5: him now in some situations where you maybe concerned about him.
- 13:58Speaker 3: Sheriff looked a little bit better. Even the center he
- 14:01Speaker 3: looked better the other night.
- 14:02Speaker 5: So the concern of calling plays because of those guys
- 14:07Speaker 5: has to wane now as you head out and you
- 14:09Speaker 5: start getting the offense really into a rhythm, because I
- 14:12Speaker 5: don't think we've seen the best of this offense, not.
- 14:14Speaker 4: Even I don't either.
- 14:15Speaker 6: Bee and let me give before we JP, I know
- 14:17Speaker 6: we got we're at time is let me give a
- 14:20Speaker 6: shout out to Brandon Sheriff, because that's a guy short
- 14:26Speaker 6: week did not practice beat up ankle, and.
- 14:30Speaker 4: There was no question he was playing like he willed
- 14:35Speaker 4: himself on the field. And you know, you can be critical.
- 14:38Speaker 6: Maybe he didn't play the best in the first few games,
- 14:40Speaker 6: maybe had some rough moments.
- 14:41Speaker 4: Whatever.
- 14:43Speaker 6: That guy is important from a mentality standpoint and a
- 14:46Speaker 6: leadership standpoint, and he is a good football player. He
- 14:50Speaker 6: might not be at his best that he has been
- 14:52Speaker 6: in his career when he was you know, you know,
- 14:54Speaker 6: pro bowler, you know, permial, perennial, pro bowler for the Commanders.
- 15:01Speaker 6: But he's I I can't stress what that means to
- 15:04Speaker 6: a team when a guy who's a leader, captain, who
- 15:08Speaker 6: just sucks it up and just says, I'm playing and
- 15:11Speaker 6: plus our.
- 15:12Speaker 5: Rookie next is a rookie next to him, which is
- 15:14Speaker 5: important to have him in there. As somebody in the
- 15:17Speaker 5: building told me him last year. He was hurt all
- 15:20Speaker 5: last year, but he played. But the way he stood
- 15:22Speaker 5: in there and helped he made Jawan Taylor that much better.
- 15:26Speaker 3: And Jawan Taylor had a career year.
- 15:27Speaker 5: By the way, Harrison going into this weekend, had been
- 15:31Speaker 5: playing better than Jawan Taylor.
- 15:33Speaker 3: Yeah, Jewan Taylor not playing very well.
- 15:36Speaker 6: But I don't care about Jewan Taylor, wrong team. I'll
- 15:39Speaker 6: just say this, hats off as a guy who knows
- 15:43Speaker 6: what it takes to get ready to play a game
- 15:45Speaker 6: and know what it means to play hurt. Hats off
- 15:47Speaker 6: to Brandon Sheriff. That's big time.
- 15:50Speaker 2: All right, guys, let's come back in a moment. We'll
- 15:51Speaker 2: get to the defensive performance. They were out there for
- 15:54Speaker 2: eighty seven snaps in the game. We'll go through that
- 15:59Speaker 2: performance or defensive side plenty ahead of course, finishing the
- 16:03Speaker 2: recap of Thursday Night Football, looking ahead to the Steelers
- 16:06Speaker 2: game this week. Then in the second hour, we'll keep
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- 16:29Speaker 7: I knew we were made of the kind of grit
- 16:31Speaker 7: that we have on this team, the kind of way
- 16:33Speaker 7: that we fight regardless of what happens.
- 16:34Speaker 4: Like I'm saying I had, I wasn't really worried.
- 16:38Speaker 3: I'm like, we're gonna win this. In the air like
- 16:39Speaker 3: you can watch me.
- 16:40Speaker 7: I s heard driving a film like it's gonna come
- 16:41Speaker 7: down to them trying to get an end zone. I
- 16:43Speaker 7: got us. Every time, it's about us. We fight for
- 16:45Speaker 7: each other, fight for the brothers. Shoutout shover coming out
- 16:47Speaker 7: here and playing. Here's motivation. Everybody playing for each other.
- 16:50Speaker 7: So we fight all the way through the game, everything
- 16:53Speaker 7: on the line.
- 16:54Speaker 4: I'm fighting, my boy.
- 16:56Speaker 2: That's for you. Alu Kin Jaguars linebacker and welcome back
- 17:00Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.
- 17:02Speaker 3: J P.
- 17:02Speaker 2: Shaddick from the Hyundai Studios at the Miller Electric Center,
- 17:05Speaker 2: Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli alongside. That's what we do on
- 17:10Speaker 2: this show too. Fight for our brothers. That's what we
- 17:14Speaker 2: do on Jaguars Happy Hour. For the defense, certainly.
- 17:18Speaker 3: He had a monster game.
- 17:19Speaker 2: He was huge. Fourteen tackles, nine solos, and he's now
- 17:22Speaker 2: second in the league in total tackles. His first career
- 17:25Speaker 2: touchdown pick six that put the Jaguars up fifteen after
- 17:29Speaker 2: the extra point two passes defense for Folier, and I mean,
- 17:33Speaker 2: you know, you start making plays like that in primetime games,
- 17:37Speaker 2: in big moments, Pete, that's when the Pro Bowl stuff
- 17:40Speaker 2: starts coming. He hasn't been to one.
- 17:42Speaker 5: No, And you're right, those big moments and big games
- 17:46Speaker 5: or what the you know, the rest of the players
- 17:48Speaker 5: in the league will look around and go, hey, I'll
- 17:51Speaker 5: put him in there. He had a big game on TV,
- 17:53Speaker 5: you know, I remember that. I don't think that's gonna
- 17:55Speaker 5: be the last game.
- 17:56Speaker 3: That people see of them either. I think there's gonna
- 17:59Speaker 3: get some Mike gets some flex games coming forward, particularly
- 18:02Speaker 3: maybe that Niners game gets flex.
- 18:04Speaker 2: You know, because yeah, if both teams win this week,
- 18:06Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, hey there're two of.
- 18:08Speaker 3: The twelve days out, which.
- 18:10Speaker 2: It would be after it would be Monday. It would
- 18:12Speaker 2: be Monday of this next yeah, next.
- 18:15Speaker 3: Week, because it would be after they have a bye week,
- 18:17Speaker 3: and then the forty nine.
- 18:18Speaker 2: That's right. So now it's Jets Raiders. Is the Sunday
- 18:21Speaker 2: night game that week? Week ten? Right?
- 18:24Speaker 5: Two big market team, I mean, well Vegas, Yeah, it's
- 18:27Speaker 5: still big market compared to this one, but it's.
- 18:30Speaker 2: A traditional team, the Raiders.
- 18:32Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 18:32Speaker 5: Yeah, but if the Raiders, you know, they play on
- 18:35Speaker 5: the road again this week against the Lions, if they
- 18:38Speaker 5: start cratering, then then you know, the Jets lost to
- 18:41Speaker 5: the Giants or something.
- 18:42Speaker 3: Then there's a chance something like that happens.
- 18:44Speaker 5: But but you know, as far as the defense, Lua
- 18:49Speaker 5: Khan played great.
- 18:50Speaker 3: You know he's playing ten times better than he ever
- 18:52Speaker 3: that he has.
- 18:54Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I know you were going with that. Yeah,
- 18:56Speaker 2: he had eleven tackles in the game in the past defense.
- 18:59Speaker 2: And remember a couple three game.
- 19:01Speaker 3: Three play sequence on the goal line where he made
- 19:04Speaker 3: all he was in on all three tackles and and
- 19:07Speaker 3: and was the primary tackle. I think.
- 19:09Speaker 5: I don't know if they credited him with all three
- 19:11Speaker 5: JP on the play sheet, but watching the tape, he
- 19:14Speaker 5: was in on all three.
- 19:15Speaker 3: It was I think it's this the remember when they wide.
- 19:21Speaker 5: Late or third quarter, maybe when kamaraw went the he
- 19:25Speaker 5: tackled him on the goal line over there. It was
- 19:30Speaker 5: two runs in the middle. Taysom Hill had a run
- 19:34Speaker 5: maybe I think it was. I think Taysom Hill scored
- 19:36Speaker 5: on that one run right before it right those three
- 19:39Speaker 5: plays before the Taysom.
- 19:40Speaker 2: Hill run, take some Hill.
- 19:46Speaker 3: It was four.
- 19:47Speaker 5: I think it was fourth down JP he brought Taysom
- 19:49Speaker 5: Hill ran the ran in for the touchdown. It was
- 19:54Speaker 5: I think it was the touchdown that right before the
- 19:59Speaker 5: big play to Kirk, I think that touchdown?
- 20:02Speaker 2: Really? Okay, hang on, let's go find this again. This
- 20:05Speaker 2: is great radio going through the play right play No.
- 20:07Speaker 5: But Devin Lloyd, I don't know if they credited him
- 20:10Speaker 5: with the tackles, but in a three play sequence right there,
- 20:14Speaker 5: he made a big play in the run game on
- 20:17Speaker 5: first down, and made a big play in the run
- 20:18Speaker 5: game on second down, and then he tackled Camaro on
- 20:23Speaker 5: the goal line on a pass play wide.
- 20:28Speaker 2: Okay, let's see here. Yeah, I got it. It's the
- 20:30Speaker 2: opening play of the fourth quarter, is what happened. So
- 20:33Speaker 2: they yeah that they were down at the Yeah, first
- 20:37Speaker 2: and goal with the four card and complete right unnecessary roughness,
- 20:42Speaker 2: no play, and then first and two, first and goal
- 20:45Speaker 2: from the two they gave goatsis a tackle, and then
- 20:49Speaker 2: second and goal from the two they gave a lookin
- 20:52Speaker 2: and wingered a split tackle.
- 20:54Speaker 3: Lloyd was in on both of those.
- 20:56Speaker 2: And then on third and goal, Devin Lloyd, they gave
- 20:59Speaker 2: him a solo.
- 21:00Speaker 5: Yeah, he had a soul, but he was He made
- 21:02Speaker 5: plays on the first two and then they scored on
- 21:04Speaker 5: the next one on the on the Taysom Hill run.
- 21:07Speaker 2: Right, that's what they scored correct.
- 21:09Speaker 3: And he got caught inside on it.
- 21:11Speaker 5: He he kind of took I saw where he was
- 21:13Speaker 5: filling and they kind of ran outside of him. But
- 21:16Speaker 5: but he's much much better, much more active, much more athletic,
- 21:21Speaker 5: better and covers understands where to go.
- 21:24Speaker 3: Uh.
- 21:25Speaker 5: That was one of his best games, and he looked
- 21:28Speaker 5: like he felt confident, And I think that's part of
- 21:33Speaker 5: the reason why a lua CON's even playing better.
- 21:39Speaker 2: Worry about where he's at. Yeah, and even last week
- 21:42Speaker 2: had his hands on two different footballs last week. If
- 21:45Speaker 2: it wasn't for the little splinter in his thumb, he
- 21:47Speaker 2: might have two interceptions.
- 21:48Speaker 5: Well, he had his hand on one in that game too, remember, Yeah,
- 21:52Speaker 5: I just think he's playing so much better. He's getting
- 21:55Speaker 5: so much depth on his drops. He's understanding where the
- 21:57Speaker 5: crossers are coming from.
- 21:59Speaker 4: Uh.
- 21:59Speaker 5: Now, there was one he got beat by a lave,
- 22:02Speaker 5: but he was in coverage on him.
- 22:03Speaker 3: He's right there to make the play. He just got beat.
- 22:06Speaker 5: I think he's improved immensely in the last three weeks,
- 22:11Speaker 5: and I think that's a big part of why their
- 22:12Speaker 5: defense looks better.
- 22:13Speaker 2: Yeah, and they they're playing great overall defense, certainly really
- 22:16Speaker 2: good against the run. With him stepping in there too.
- 22:20Speaker 2: And then you got Josh Allen who continues to flash
- 22:24Speaker 2: and play well. He had three quarterback.
- 22:26Speaker 5: Against a backup, but he has played really well. I mean,
- 22:29Speaker 5: I want to Josh Allen's playing out of his mind
- 22:32Speaker 5: right now.
- 22:34Speaker 3: Got to keep on the money train.
- 22:35Speaker 2: Got to keep it up. That's the one thing in
- 22:37Speaker 2: his career that you can you can say, hey, he's
- 22:39Speaker 2: had spurts here or there. He's been really good for
- 22:42Speaker 2: two or three weeks, and then he disappears for like
- 22:44Speaker 2: three four weeks.
- 22:45Speaker 5: But he's never been this good. I don't think at
- 22:47Speaker 5: any point in his career he's been this good. He's
- 22:49Speaker 5: playing out of his mind. I think he's been outstanding.
- 22:53Speaker 5: And and yeah he played against a backup tackle and
- 22:57Speaker 5: a guard converted over there, but he still did a
- 22:59Speaker 5: nice job in one consistently what do you have eleven
- 23:01Speaker 5: pressures in that game?
- 23:02Speaker 2: Yeah, he was all over the backfield.
- 23:04Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean he's he really impacted the game.
- 23:07Speaker 3: He sped up Derek Carr. He's playing great. I mean,
- 23:11Speaker 3: in watching to tape through a couple other.
- 23:12Speaker 5: Notes I wrote down about that defense, one being Angelo
- 23:17Speaker 5: Blackson made some plays.
- 23:19Speaker 2: You know, he did it's a heck of a fine right.
- 23:21Speaker 2: He's been all around the football, like fumble recoveries. He
- 23:23Speaker 2: can't really predict that sometimes, but he's just there and
- 23:26Speaker 2: he's a big good He plays in.
- 23:28Speaker 5: The run game, you know, and he got the penalty
- 23:31Speaker 5: for throwing down the runner.
- 23:33Speaker 3: But he's made some plays.
- 23:35Speaker 5: I thought he did some good things on that defense
- 23:37Speaker 5: the other day. You agree, Tony Angelo Blackson made a
- 23:40Speaker 5: couple of plays the other day.
- 23:42Speaker 4: I thought he was. I thought he's been good all year.
- 23:45Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, because remember the big question we had coming
- 23:48Speaker 6: in with Devon Hamilton being out, where's the depth gonna
- 23:53Speaker 6: be on that interior defensive line?
- 23:55Speaker 4: This is what the interior.
- 23:56Speaker 6: Defensive line, as far as from stopping the run, is
- 23:58Speaker 6: one of the strengths of the whole team, and guys
- 24:01Speaker 6: like Blackston are a big reason for that. And so
- 24:05Speaker 6: I mean, give them a ton of credit. And and
- 24:09Speaker 6: I'm sorry I had to jump out real quick, something
- 24:10Speaker 6: came up. But the as a defense, as you think
- 24:15Speaker 6: about the defense overall, Mike Caldwell and his staff have
- 24:18Speaker 6: a great job of keeping them in games, getting turnovers,
- 24:23Speaker 6: getting big.
- 24:24Speaker 4: Stops when they have to.
- 24:26Speaker 6: I mean, I don't even blame them for that end
- 24:29Speaker 6: of third quarter kind of going to the fourth quarter.
- 24:31Speaker 6: They've been on the field for like a thousand minutes
- 24:33Speaker 6: and on a short week, they I mean they were gassed.
- 24:36Speaker 4: You could see it.
- 24:37Speaker 6: And I mean I thought they they gutted it out,
- 24:41Speaker 6: and you know, specifically Blacks, and super impressed with all
- 24:46Speaker 6: those guys, the starting group up front, the backups.
- 24:51Speaker 4: The way they've shut down the run this year has
- 24:53Speaker 4: been impressive.
- 24:53Speaker 5: It's good to have depth like that. It's you know,
- 24:56Speaker 5: it's good to have a big body that can go
- 24:57Speaker 5: in there. And he plays big, he plays wrong. Yeah,
- 25:01Speaker 5: And we were talking before you when you jumped out
- 25:03Speaker 5: to and I was talking about how much better Devin
- 25:05Speaker 5: Lloyd's looked the last couple of weeks.
- 25:06Speaker 3: That's a different dude out there.
- 25:08Speaker 4: I talked to him after the game. I'm like, dude,
- 25:11Speaker 4: you were killing it right now.
- 25:12Speaker 3: It's it's unreal, dude, he is like.
- 25:15Speaker 6: I'm like, like he I thought he was better than
- 25:19Speaker 6: last year to start the season, but not great.
- 25:24Speaker 4: Then he gets hurt. The last two weeks, him and
- 25:28Speaker 4: all over.
- 25:29Speaker 5: The field, they look you know, they look like when
- 25:31Speaker 5: they play now, like those two Niners linebackers. He run
- 25:34Speaker 5: around and yeah, I mean they're not Fred Warner and
- 25:38Speaker 5: Drake Greenlaw yet, but they run around and make plays
- 25:40Speaker 5: like that.
- 25:41Speaker 3: They're not.
- 25:41Speaker 5: If that continue, if those two continue, they're gonna be
- 25:45Speaker 5: so able to cover so much ground and his past covered.
- 25:49Speaker 3: I was telling JP.
- 25:50Speaker 5: When you watch it take he knows the look, where
- 25:52Speaker 5: guys are coming now and where to go. It's it's
- 25:55Speaker 5: an amazing improvement in the last two weeks from him.
- 25:59Speaker 3: He gets it now, you can tell. And you talked
- 26:01Speaker 3: to him after the game. I bet he thinks he's
- 26:03Speaker 3: really good now too.
- 26:04Speaker 6: Well he should. I mean, you know, Devin Lloyd's not
- 26:07Speaker 6: a burner like if you talk like the guys you
- 26:09Speaker 6: talked about.
- 26:10Speaker 3: It, Yeah, they can fly.
- 26:11Speaker 4: Warner and Greenwall like especially Warner is just like a
- 26:14Speaker 4: just fly.
- 26:15Speaker 6: And Devon's not slow, but he's not a he's not.
- 26:19Speaker 4: A burner, but he's not like those guys.
- 26:22Speaker 6: But what he is pete that gives makes him faster
- 26:24Speaker 6: than even maybe Clock's at his length. He is so
- 26:30Speaker 6: long that he's there even when you don't think he's
- 26:34Speaker 6: there because of that length, and he gets his hands
- 26:38Speaker 6: on balls across the middle of the field. That they
- 26:40Speaker 6: think are gonna be over his head, that he gets
- 26:43Speaker 6: hands on and does something with you.
- 26:44Speaker 4: I mean he is. I think you know.
- 26:46Speaker 3: It's it's good. You know what's happening now with Josh.
- 26:49Speaker 5: Allen being a playmaker at the first level, You've got
- 26:53Speaker 5: the linebackers playmakers. At the second level, you have Tyson
- 26:56Speaker 5: Campbell when he's on the field, and Darius Williams is
- 26:59Speaker 5: really playing well by the way defense, and then you
- 27:03Speaker 5: have Cisco, and you have Cisco at the safety position,
- 27:06Speaker 5: and you have really high level players at those every
- 27:10Speaker 5: level across the board, at every key spot.
- 27:13Speaker 3: Whereas going into the season, you didn't we didn't know that.
- 27:16Speaker 4: We didn't know it was a question mark.
- 27:17Speaker 6: And how about Josh Allen And if you guys talked
- 27:19Speaker 6: about this, I apologize eleven pressures eleven.
- 27:24Speaker 3: You know what, We motivated that man. We motivated that man.
- 27:28Speaker 4: He was like Pete.
- 27:31Speaker 6: If Derek Carr held on the ball for a half second,
- 27:34Speaker 6: he had five six as.
- 27:35Speaker 3: It was, it was he and he was working against
- 27:37Speaker 3: a backup.
- 27:38Speaker 4: That's fine, that's what you're supposed to do.
- 27:41Speaker 5: When he dominated, he dominated. I told I told JP,
- 27:44Speaker 5: it's the best. This little stretch of games is the
- 27:47Speaker 5: best he's ever.
- 27:48Speaker 3: Played, and I don't even think it's close.
- 27:50Speaker 5: And you know, JP, remember I asked you last week,
- 27:52Speaker 5: did they make the crack about game wrecker on the
- 27:55Speaker 5: on the game? I went back and listened to it.
- 27:59Speaker 5: He got that back against Indy and they said he
- 28:04Speaker 5: is a game wrecker. So it was like a little shot.
- 28:09Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean he's playing at a high level.
- 28:13Speaker 5: But we also have to talk about.
- 28:15Speaker 3: The other side.
- 28:17Speaker 6: Well, why don't we come back and do that, because
- 28:19Speaker 6: I think that's a longer conversation. And when we talk
- 28:23Speaker 6: about the other side, I assume you're talking about Trayvon Walker.
- 28:26Speaker 6: And when I looked at the stat line from Thursday night,
- 28:29Speaker 6: it was one assist.
- 28:31Speaker 3: We will given a couple of pressures. And I went
- 28:34Speaker 3: back and watched the tape again today and I looked
- 28:36Speaker 3: at it.
- 28:36Speaker 5: I don't know where they came from. One late maybe
- 28:39Speaker 5: they credited him with when he was flushed out.
- 28:41Speaker 2: But we've got plenty to get to. We'll get to
- 28:44Speaker 2: that coming up. We'll dig a little deeper into the
- 28:46Speaker 2: cornerback play. That was a question going into the game
- 28:49Speaker 2: Thursday night, Monterrek Brown, how did he perform in his
- 28:52Speaker 2: first career. Start a little more offensive talk as well ahead.
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- 29:28Speaker 8: It's one of the best performances. You know.
- 29:31Speaker 9: I had talked to the team and and and you know,
- 29:34Speaker 9: we had some guys that were beat up. Trevor was
- 29:36Speaker 9: was banged up one into the game. You know, Brandon
- 29:39Speaker 9: Sheriff was was beat up going into this game, amongst
- 29:42Speaker 9: other guys. And you know, the offensive line really put
- 29:46Speaker 9: it upon themselves to keep keep Trevor clean in the pocket,
- 29:49Speaker 9: you know, other than the the runs that he had,
- 29:52Speaker 9: you know, he wasn't he wasn't touched back there. And
- 29:54Speaker 9: and I give credit to Press Taylor. You know, play calls,
- 29:58Speaker 9: balls were coming out of his hand and extremely quick,
- 30:01Speaker 9: you know, receivers were doing their job. So it was
- 30:04Speaker 9: a really good, you know, really good performance there, not
- 30:07Speaker 9: only by the offensive line, but I think also the
- 30:09Speaker 9: guys around Trevor helping him out, you know, in that situation.
- 30:13Speaker 2: That's the head coach Doug Peterson on a conference call,
- 30:17Speaker 2: a zoom call on Friday, the day after the Jaguars
- 30:21Speaker 2: win in New Orleans at the super Dome, and welcome back.
- 30:23Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour.
- 30:25Speaker 10: J P.
- 30:26Speaker 2: Shaddrick from the Hyundai studios at the Miller Electric Center
- 30:28Speaker 2: in Jacksonville. Pete Prisco down in South Florida. Tony Boselli
- 30:32Speaker 2: has a bust of himself and his house apparently, and
- 30:36Speaker 2: we are recapping the win over the Saints, looking ahead
- 30:40Speaker 2: to the Steelers coming up a little later. Second hour.
- 30:42Speaker 2: You're a fanatics fan questions and much more? We yes, Pete,
- 30:47Speaker 2: Hello ah, yes this question.
- 30:51Speaker 5: Did anybody ask him about the idiotic decision to go
- 30:55Speaker 5: for it?
- 30:57Speaker 3: Pete?
- 30:57Speaker 6: I'm going to disagree with you again from this You're
- 31:01Speaker 6: not I am, No, it was. It was fourth And
- 31:07Speaker 6: first of all, I would have challenged the spots. I
- 31:09Speaker 6: think they got a crappy spot. That's fine. So but
- 31:14Speaker 6: if you I mean, if you look at it where
- 31:16Speaker 6: they market it is literally fourth and.
- 31:21Speaker 4: Less than an inch, and again.
- 31:25Speaker 3: At the forty seven yard line.
- 31:27Speaker 6: Yep, let's see where his knee goes down. This is
- 31:29Speaker 6: like I didn't like this right there.
- 31:32Speaker 3: They probably should have challenged. It would have been hard
- 31:34Speaker 3: to overturn it, but they should have challenged it.
- 31:35Speaker 6: Okay, So now this is the fourth down play we
- 31:38Speaker 6: just looked at on YouTube.
- 31:40Speaker 4: On the video, I actually wouldn't find going for it.
- 31:44Speaker 4: But here's what I don't like.
- 31:46Speaker 6: I had no problem going for it because you had
- 31:48Speaker 6: a tired defense that had been on the field.
- 31:51Speaker 4: You need to put some first downs together. My problem was,
- 31:56Speaker 4: is the shotgun it's fourth and an inch two inches? Like,
- 32:01Speaker 4: get underneath. You have a six ' five quarterback who's
- 32:05Speaker 4: already your leading rusher for the day, so his need
- 32:07Speaker 4: feels good.
- 32:08Speaker 6: Enough, push him and just go get the two inches
- 32:14Speaker 6: you need. Quarterback sneak. Now, if you don't feel comfortable
- 32:17Speaker 6: quarterback sneaking it, then I would pun it or.
- 32:22Speaker 3: Bring your backup quarterback in and let him quarterback sneak it.
- 32:24Speaker 4: Whatever. Go put. You know, we have to come up
- 32:28Speaker 4: with a solution. Go put. Evan Ingram under under center.
- 32:31Speaker 6: Have him practice obviously not before the first time in
- 32:33Speaker 6: the game, but like practice like someone else doing it.
- 32:36Speaker 6: If you're worried because you can't be out of the gun,
- 32:40Speaker 6: I'm fourth in inches.
- 32:41Speaker 4: I don't understand that.
- 32:43Speaker 3: I agree with you.
- 32:43Speaker 8: One.
- 32:44Speaker 3: I didn't like the gun. No, I didn't like the call.
- 32:47Speaker 3: Bates had done nothing. They had done nothing.
- 32:51Speaker 6: At that point of the game. That's not true. They
- 32:53Speaker 6: had come back. They were down one possession.
- 32:54Speaker 5: This is right, okay, but they had the one possession
- 32:58Speaker 5: in the in the sec in the third order where
- 33:00Speaker 5: they right the start of the fourth quarter. Isn't that
- 33:02Speaker 5: what it was? JP, We just went through it when
- 33:04Speaker 5: Taysoon Mill scored a touchdown, that's right. Ye, the reason
- 33:07Speaker 5: I they have at that point.
- 33:08Speaker 6: But Pete, the reason I said I would go for
- 33:10Speaker 6: it if again quarterback sneak is because I remember sitting
- 33:14Speaker 6: there during the game and watching saying, our defense is dead.
- 33:19Speaker 6: We we are gassed. We've been on they've been we've
- 33:21Speaker 6: been on the field half the time they have. You
- 33:23Speaker 6: looked at the time of possession at that point, and
- 33:26Speaker 6: we needed to like just get some first downs and
- 33:29Speaker 6: keep our defense.
- 33:30Speaker 3: So let's give them the ball in the field.
- 33:32Speaker 2: So here's so. Doug Peterson was not asked about it
- 33:35Speaker 2: in the transcript from Friday. He was asked about it
- 33:38Speaker 2: in the post game on the fourth and inches play,
- 33:41Speaker 2: and his quote was this quote, we just got beat.
- 33:44Speaker 2: We just got beat. Credit them end quote, and then.
- 33:47Speaker 3: Look at that has nothing to do with the decision.
- 33:49Speaker 2: And he said there was no thought to challenge. It
- 33:52Speaker 2: was confirmed upstairs, no thought to challenge on third.
- 33:56Speaker 4: So that's fine. Pee's probably right.
- 33:58Speaker 6: I think it would have been a tough challenge because
- 33:59Speaker 6: those spots are tough challenges.
- 34:02Speaker 4: But Pete, let me ask you a question.
- 34:06Speaker 6: If it was fourth in inches on that play and
- 34:08Speaker 6: it was the Philadelphia Eagles, would you say go for
- 34:10Speaker 6: it or not?
- 34:12Speaker 3: I'm still punting the ball?
- 34:14Speaker 4: You're you are so full.
- 34:17Speaker 3: To use that play?
- 34:18Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 34:19Speaker 3: Probably not.
- 34:20Speaker 2: Can't stop that play.
- 34:22Speaker 6: My point is every team in the NFL should be
- 34:25Speaker 6: able to get two inches.
- 34:29Speaker 4: From a quarterbacks neap.
- 34:31Speaker 5: I would agree with you on that, but I still
- 34:33Speaker 5: in that scenario, if it was a high scoring game
- 34:36Speaker 5: and the Saints had been moving the ball over the place,
- 34:38Speaker 5: I would agree with you one.
- 34:40Speaker 3: But they weren't.
- 34:41Speaker 4: But Pete, our defense was dead, So.
- 34:44Speaker 5: Let's give him the ball at midfield so they could
- 34:46Speaker 5: be dead for fifty yards instead of a hunt, instead
- 34:48Speaker 5: of ninety.
- 34:49Speaker 4: How about go get two inches?
- 34:51Speaker 3: And I get that, but and.
- 34:52Speaker 4: How about not doing that scenario?
- 34:55Speaker 3: People?
- 34:55Speaker 4: How about not do that out of the gun.
- 34:57Speaker 3: How about in that scenario you punt.
- 34:59Speaker 5: He I texted you during the game and you weren't
- 35:01Speaker 5: so defiant that night.
- 35:04Speaker 6: No, I was because I you text me right afterwards,
- 35:07Speaker 6: and I was frustrated because if now, in fairness talking
- 35:12Speaker 6: to people afterwards, the reason they were in the gun,
- 35:14Speaker 6: I want to be fair to the coach's staff because
- 35:17Speaker 6: they said, I, if Trevor is gonna play, they're doing
- 35:20Speaker 6: almost they're doing everything out of the gun because of
- 35:23Speaker 6: his knee.
- 35:24Speaker 4: And I get that. And so based on that, Pete,
- 35:27Speaker 4: knowing that you're.
- 35:28Speaker 6: Going to be in the gun, it's fourth and it's
- 35:30Speaker 6: just I would have punted too, right, It should have punted.
- 35:34Speaker 6: But in a normal situation, especially after I saw how
- 35:36Speaker 6: well Trevor was moving around, come on, we gotta be
- 35:40Speaker 6: able to quarterback sneak a guy.
- 35:41Speaker 3: And if it's such a good short yardage team so far,
- 35:43Speaker 3: and the less to you and.
- 35:45Speaker 6: That's another reason, Pete, to punt it. I can't argue
- 35:48Speaker 6: there with you, because you're right, we have not been
- 35:50Speaker 6: good on third and short.
- 35:53Speaker 3: And what did they have that You gave them life?
- 35:55Speaker 3: You almost cast yourself the game by giving them life.
- 35:58Speaker 3: You gave them life in that spot. They they didn't
- 36:01Speaker 3: have life, you punt them in.
- 36:02Speaker 4: I think you're wrong, Pete. I thought they already had
- 36:04Speaker 4: life before that, because many.
- 36:06Speaker 5: Yards of offense did they have and at that point
- 36:08Speaker 5: in the game one hundred and seventy no more than that?
- 36:11Speaker 4: When did that? That was fourth quarter? If I'm not mistaken.
- 36:14Speaker 3: Yes, they had just scored.
- 36:15Speaker 5: They scored Remember on that one possessions The only real
- 36:17Speaker 5: possession they had that was worth the dam was the
- 36:19Speaker 5: one they scored on Taysom Hill scored the touchdown.
- 36:21Speaker 3: James just went through that.
- 36:23Speaker 2: So Taysom Hill scored like second player of the fourth quarter.
- 36:26Speaker 2: Jaguars got the ball, went what four plays and then punted.
- 36:31Speaker 2: Saints went three and out. Jaguars, this is the next drive.
- 36:34Speaker 2: They got a first down on a penalty defensive pass
- 36:37Speaker 2: interference and then they go to the fourth down and won.
- 36:40Speaker 2: And then the Saints come back after that and three
- 36:42Speaker 2: plays later, they're in the end zone. Card O Thomas
- 36:44Speaker 2: seventeen yards.
- 36:46Speaker 3: Yeah, he's only needed fifty yards.
- 36:50Speaker 2: That one tied the game.
- 36:51Speaker 6: Yeah, if you're gonna go out of if you're gonna
- 36:52Speaker 6: shotgun it there, I'd punt two. I'm with you, especially
- 36:55Speaker 6: based on our third and short offense right now, which
- 36:58Speaker 6: is not very good. I was. My frustration was more
- 37:02Speaker 6: get under center and just quarterback sneak and it's two inches.
- 37:06Speaker 5: I would agree, if you're gonna go for it, you
- 37:08Speaker 5: have to sneak, sneak it. But in that game, with
- 37:11Speaker 5: the way the flow had gone, I would have.
- 37:13Speaker 6: It okay unless unless you unless you are confident in
- 37:16Speaker 6: your quarterback sneak, like if you're the if you are
- 37:19Speaker 6: the Eagles, you're going.
- 37:20Speaker 4: For it there.
- 37:20Speaker 3: And Jacksonville hasn't been confident in their quarterback sneak.
- 37:23Speaker 4: Ever, No, that's not true. Tas back of the day.
- 37:27Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this group we're not.
- 37:31Speaker 6: And I don't understand why, because Trevor is so big
- 37:33Speaker 6: and athletic, Like, why are we better at that?
- 37:36Speaker 4: It really frustrates me.
- 37:39Speaker 3: Some of it has to do with Fortner.
- 37:42Speaker 4: Yeah, fair, he's not physically, he doesn't play low right that.
- 37:49Speaker 5: One thing you was talking about the Eagles doing it.
- 37:51Speaker 5: Jason Kelsey's stomach is.
- 37:53Speaker 3: On the ground. It's incredible. But yeah, that's me.
- 38:01Speaker 5: I'm gonna that's my rant, my criticize the coach rant
- 38:04Speaker 5: for the week because it's gonna get you know me,
- 38:06Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest about it.
- 38:07Speaker 3: I just would have punted there. I think he should
- 38:09Speaker 3: have punted there.
- 38:10Speaker 4: So p it's I. I will agree. If you're gonna
- 38:14Speaker 4: go shotgun, I'm with you.
- 38:16Speaker 2: I won't.
- 38:16Speaker 4: I would. I would agree with you with.
- 38:18Speaker 3: The game dictates a little bit of that too.
- 38:20Speaker 6: Or about two inches as an offensive lineman. And this
- 38:22Speaker 6: is where me being a player can get me in trouble.
- 38:24Speaker 4: I agree with you.
- 38:25Speaker 6: So don't even say, Pete, I felt like, if we
- 38:27Speaker 6: can't get two inches, we don't deserve to win.
- 38:30Speaker 3: I know.
- 38:31Speaker 4: It's a player. I'm a play that's a player. I know.
- 38:33Speaker 3: I get it. I get it.
- 38:34Speaker 5: But you could also say if we can't punt him
- 38:37Speaker 5: in and hold him from going ninety to tighest, and
- 38:39Speaker 5: we shouldn't win either.
- 38:40Speaker 6: But I don't play defense. I play offensive line. I know,
- 38:46Speaker 6: and so your criticism is fair. But we have not
- 38:50Speaker 6: done it yet of giving this coaching staff the kudos
- 38:54Speaker 6: they deserve. Of two in London, and let's not forget
- 38:58Speaker 6: coming off a disaster performance against Houston at home, brutal.
- 39:01Speaker 3: Hey, he's a damn good coach. I'm not saying the
- 39:06Speaker 3: bad decisions.
- 39:07Speaker 4: I'm not saying you're not.
- 39:08Speaker 6: I just want to make sure we highlight because I
- 39:10Speaker 6: agree with you your criticism's fair. I want to highlight
- 39:13Speaker 6: what Doug Peterson and his staff have done over a
- 39:15Speaker 6: nineteen day period, two wins in London, managed the team
- 39:21Speaker 6: over there, no issues, no complaining, nothing showed up, played,
- 39:26Speaker 6: got it done, fly home, take two days off, play
- 39:30Speaker 6: division rival the Colts, beat the hell out of them,
- 39:35Speaker 6: get beat up in the process, and then four days
- 39:38Speaker 6: later or three days labor, three days later, get on
- 39:40Speaker 6: a plane with a beat up quarterback to New Orleans
- 39:46Speaker 6: and go beat their rear ends at their home stadium.
- 39:49Speaker 6: I mean, I was, I was, I was. I am
- 39:54Speaker 6: so impressed by what they did.
- 39:57Speaker 4: That is because I.
- 39:58Speaker 6: Don't think and this is not talking down to fans
- 40:01Speaker 6: at all, but I don't think the average fan understands
- 40:03Speaker 6: how hard what they did is and just the logistics,
- 40:09Speaker 6: the change of time, zones, the travel, the managing injuries
- 40:13Speaker 6: on the road, you know, getting everyone ready mentally, game
- 40:18Speaker 6: planning for the coaches not being home, doing it out
- 40:22Speaker 6: of your routine. I mean, there's so many different variables
- 40:26Speaker 6: that go into pulling that off, and they did it
- 40:29Speaker 6: with a bunch of injuries. The key guys like hats off.
- 40:34Speaker 6: I mean, we got a hell of a coaching staff
- 40:36Speaker 6: and a bun and we've got a hard job.
- 40:39Speaker 3: That's a heart What they did.
- 40:40Speaker 5: You know what else might have really helped Tony. They
- 40:43Speaker 5: bonded when they were overseas.
- 40:45Speaker 2: That's right.
- 40:46Speaker 4: You're such an ass. You are such an ass, But.
- 40:50Speaker 5: The coaching staff deserves Hey, look, I criticize the coaches
- 40:53Speaker 5: for things they do. This staff has done a nice,
- 40:56Speaker 5: really nice job, and Mike Calwells particularly has.
- 40:58Speaker 3: Done a great job with that defense. And I think
- 41:02Speaker 3: Doug Peterson, big picture, is an outstanding football coach. And
- 41:05Speaker 3: you can just tell the way the players talk about him.
- 41:09Speaker 3: There's a respect there.
- 41:10Speaker 6: I would argue, And then we're not at the halfway point,
- 41:13Speaker 6: and maybe we do it during the bye week. Our
- 41:17Speaker 6: players of the Year and everything else so far, but
- 41:21Speaker 6: right now, if I looked across the NFL after seven games,
- 41:24Speaker 6: which everyone's played at least seven, Doug Peterson's coach of
- 41:27Speaker 6: the year after seven games.
- 41:29Speaker 4: What he's done with his team?
- 41:31Speaker 3: Yeah, they were supposed to be good, though, Pete. Make
- 41:37Speaker 3: them go to the Super Bowl.
- 41:39Speaker 6: Pete, Well you did, which I'm all forward right now
- 41:43Speaker 6: after at one and two? How much would you have
- 41:47Speaker 6: wagered if I'd have said they're gonna win four straight?
- 41:51Speaker 3: Why didn't think they beat Buffalo?
- 41:53Speaker 4: Okay, so.
- 41:56Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he's done a great job.
- 41:58Speaker 2: They've done it. Now Pittsburgh on the road, Yes, that
- 42:01Speaker 2: would be another one.
- 42:03Speaker 6: I'm telling you what we need to be Pittsburgh and
- 42:05Speaker 6: we'll talk more about that coming up. Tough matchup, especially
- 42:08Speaker 6: our offense and their defense. But you go six and two,
- 42:12Speaker 6: have a buy and go into the forty nine ers.
- 42:16Speaker 6: It'll be on. It's gonna be Sunday night. It's getting flexed.
- 42:19Speaker 6: I guarantee it. You've heard it the way real quick.
- 42:21Speaker 3: JP really didn't talk about Trayvon Walker. We do got
- 42:24Speaker 3: to talk about it.
- 42:24Speaker 2: We will. We've got plenty of time. We've got over
- 42:27Speaker 2: an hour remaining on the program to get to that
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- 43:00Speaker 8: J P.
- 43:00Speaker 2: Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Busselli. Winding down the opening hour
- 43:04Speaker 2: of the program. We'll get to more of the defensive
- 43:08Speaker 2: performance coming up in the second hour. After the Jaguars
- 43:12Speaker 2: got it done Thursday night in the Superdome against the
- 43:14Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints. We're on tenon xl Amjaguars dot com,
- 43:18Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube, and on October twenty fourth, that's tomorrow, five
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- 43:45Speaker 2: at the AFC South, the Titan. The Titans and Texans
- 43:48Speaker 2: had bye weeks. This week. The Browns rallied to beat
- 43:52Speaker 2: the Colts in a wild game thirty nine thirty eight.
- 43:55Speaker 2: Oh boy, what happened here?
- 43:57Speaker 5: Pete Well Minshew was really good at times and really
- 44:04Speaker 5: bad at times. And he turned the ball over four times,
- 44:07Speaker 5: and one of them was in the end zone at
- 44:09Speaker 5: the end of the half for a touchdown. But he
- 44:11Speaker 5: did some good things against that defense. And there were
- 44:13Speaker 5: some questionable calls at the end of that game.
- 44:15Speaker 4: And pass the worst pass interference call I've ever seen.
- 44:19Speaker 4: It was.
- 44:19Speaker 3: It wasn't even the balls. He would have been gumpy
- 44:22Speaker 3: and he couldn't caught that ball.
- 44:24Speaker 6: And by the way, it was incidental hand fighting that
- 44:26Speaker 6: the other guy was initiating.
- 44:28Speaker 3: It was a terrible call.
- 44:30Speaker 4: And this is a bigger issue I think we had.
- 44:32Speaker 4: Could it happened.
- 44:34Speaker 6: Last night too, before I fell asleep at the end,
- 44:36Speaker 6: I think, and I'm not a big blame the officials guy,
- 44:39Speaker 6: but I think the officiating has been terrible. I thought
- 44:43Speaker 6: a couple of the miscalls, the lack of calls, and
- 44:46Speaker 6: the Eagles who are tackling guys that are rushing the
- 44:49Speaker 6: passer yesterday multiple times and the passer it's like and
- 44:57Speaker 6: Kurt Warner said it on Twitter, and I'm not big
- 45:00Speaker 6: replay everything guy, but he made a great point.
- 45:04Speaker 4: I think they.
- 45:04Speaker 6: Have to make roughing the passer reviewable because these these
- 45:10Speaker 6: officials are out of control. There was another one I saw,
- 45:14Speaker 6: uh yesterday on Sunday afternoon. I can't remember who was playing.
- 45:18Speaker 6: The player hit the quarterback. Oh uh, Buffalo, New England.
- 45:22Speaker 6: The New England guy blitz hit the guy hit Josh
- 45:25Speaker 6: Allen in the chest. Josh Allen flops, throws his head
- 45:28Speaker 6: back and gets a penalty.
- 45:30Speaker 3: Putting his body, putting his body on him.
- 45:33Speaker 4: No, no, it wasn't even on his body. There was one, yeah,
- 45:35Speaker 4: I saw that, but this was one page.
- 45:37Speaker 6: He came in shoulder to the chest, Josh Allen flops back,
- 45:43Speaker 6: head goes back, fall down, and they called rough in
- 45:46Speaker 6: the passer for he gave him a first down. I'm like,
- 45:48Speaker 6: this is ridiculous.
- 45:50Speaker 3: Yeah, the official.
- 45:50Speaker 5: You know, back in the day when they had the
- 45:52Speaker 5: replacement officials, everybody said, oh my god, look how bad
- 45:55Speaker 5: the officiating is. And the reality is there are much
- 45:57Speaker 5: difference between those guys and these guys.
- 46:00Speaker 4: Ramis you they're not very good right now?
- 46:02Speaker 3: No, they're not. The game's too fast, it's too fat.
- 46:05Speaker 3: They need it.
- 46:06Speaker 5: I've always I've told Roger Goodell that they need an
- 46:08Speaker 5: extra official on the field.
- 46:10Speaker 6: Well, but the other thing, Pete, is they are airing
- 46:13Speaker 6: on the side of player safety, especially when it comes
- 46:15Speaker 6: to the quarterbacks and especially certain quarterbacks, and it's ruining
- 46:20Speaker 6: the game.
- 46:20Speaker 3: Well, and Kareem Jackson just got suspended four games for
- 46:23Speaker 3: getting the guy in a helmet.
- 46:28Speaker 2: Be injected already this year too, repeat a fact.
- 46:32Speaker 4: But I'm gonna keep my mouth shut because i don't
- 46:36Speaker 4: want to get protected.
- 46:37Speaker 3: Here's this, here's the irony in it.
- 46:39Speaker 5: They protect guys for player safety reasons with these with
- 46:42Speaker 5: the officiating, but they allow them to have a scrum
- 46:45Speaker 5: like they do on that play for the Eagles, where
- 46:47Speaker 5: guys could easily get Somebody could break this.
- 46:49Speaker 3: Albody's gonna get hurt one of those scrums.
- 46:50Speaker 2: By the way, you want your quarterback within like a
- 46:54Speaker 2: ton of weight around him. It's a lot. We'll come
- 46:57Speaker 2: back second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. We'll keep it real.
- 47:00Speaker 2: The fanatics, fan questions, and much more. This is Jaguars
- 47:04Speaker 2: Happy Hour. On the Jaguars Digital Network.
- 47:22Speaker 9: My credit goes to the players for how they handled
- 47:25Speaker 9: the last you know, three weeks and and really locked in,
- 47:30Speaker 9: you know, to whether we were doing a walkthrough or
- 47:33Speaker 9: a full practice, you know, the mental side of the game.
- 47:36Speaker 9: And you know, there's still obviously some mistakes out there
- 47:40Speaker 9: being made, but overall from a team perspective, definitely pleased
- 47:44Speaker 9: with how they've handled you know, the last you know,
- 47:47Speaker 9: three three and a half weeks.
- 47:48Speaker 2: Suck Peterson of course, Jaguars head coach Friday after the
- 47:52Speaker 2: Thursday night football win over the Saints. Fourth win in
- 47:55Speaker 2: a row for the Jaguars and welcome back. It's the
- 47:57Speaker 2: second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour that is presented by
- 48:01Speaker 2: Mister Chubby's Wings, JP Shadrick, Tony Boselli, and Pete Prisco.
- 48:05Speaker 2: The Jaguars coming off the many bye weekend after the
- 48:08Speaker 2: win in the Superdome thirty one to twenty four over
- 48:11Speaker 2: the Saints, now four in a row in nineteen days,
- 48:14Speaker 2: four stadiums in three cities in a seven time zone stretch.
- 48:19Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence played through knee injury Thursday night, ended up
- 48:22Speaker 2: as the leading rusher for the Jags. The offense had
- 48:25Speaker 2: that mid game lull and then left the defense on
- 48:27Speaker 2: the field for eighty seven plays. But they did hold
- 48:30Speaker 2: up in the end zone in the end, at least
- 48:32Speaker 2: on fourth down that was following a huge drop of
- 48:35Speaker 2: what could have been the game tying touchdown for the Saints.
- 48:37Speaker 2: It didn't happen, though, the Jags got it done. Game
- 48:40Speaker 2: winning touchdown from Lawrence to Christian Kirk forty four yards
- 48:42Speaker 2: came with three zero eight to play. Now it's on
- 48:45Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh, to the Confluence where the Jaguars will face
- 48:48Speaker 2: the four and two Steelers and that boy, hey, this
- 48:52Speaker 2: is a team that has figured out a way to
- 48:53Speaker 2: win some games in a tough stretch with some injuries
- 48:57Speaker 2: and a lot of travel. Now they're a little rest
- 49:00Speaker 2: going into Pittsburgh this week against the Steelers team that
- 49:04Speaker 2: has a statistically defensively are not ranked very highly, but
- 49:09Speaker 2: they do have some very good players on that defense
- 49:12Speaker 2: obviously on the offensive side to some weapons they can
- 49:15Speaker 2: throw around younger quarterback. You know, we'll get to the
- 49:19Speaker 2: Steelers obviously coming up. Pete, I know you have been
- 49:22Speaker 2: chomping at the bit to talk about this Jaguars defensive
- 49:26Speaker 2: line and pass rush and Josh Allen. We got that
- 49:29Speaker 2: in earlier. The linebacker play and the middle has been
- 49:32Speaker 2: really good. We talked about that. The interior against the
- 49:36Speaker 2: run especially is stout. I mean, there are number four
- 49:38Speaker 2: in the league against the run. But you have tried
- 49:42Speaker 2: to point out Trayvon Walker all show here's your chance.
- 49:45Speaker 2: What's up?
- 49:46Speaker 3: Well, as Tony agrees with me, we've talked about it.
- 49:50Speaker 5: He's not getting to the quarterback. He's not impacting quarterback.
- 49:56Speaker 5: And if you have a dynamic pass rusher and a
- 49:58Speaker 5: good pass rusher on the side, you would think that
- 50:02Speaker 5: stuff would fall into your lap on the other side,
- 50:05Speaker 5: and it doesn't even do that. I just don't understand.
- 50:09Speaker 5: He hasn't improved, as his hands aren't. Anybody still goes
- 50:12Speaker 5: right smack into the middle of the tackle all the time,
- 50:15Speaker 5: and so there's a great concern about what needs to
- 50:18Speaker 5: be done over there. And I'm a big believer that
- 50:23Speaker 5: they need to go explore some of these pass rushers
- 50:25Speaker 5: who might be available. The Philadelphia Eagles, who went to
- 50:29Speaker 5: the Super Bowl last year, didn't like some of their
- 50:32Speaker 5: safety play, so.
- 50:34Speaker 3: You know what they did today.
- 50:36Speaker 5: They traded to get Kevin Byered from the Tennessee Titans.
- 50:39Speaker 3: Yep, that's what a team that feels like it can
- 50:43Speaker 3: make a run does.
- 50:45Speaker 4: What they give up.
- 50:47Speaker 5: They gave up the safety, they gave up two picks,
- 50:52Speaker 5: and the safety that they acquired that they signed away
- 50:55Speaker 5: from the Steelers.
- 50:57Speaker 3: The brother of the law what's his now?
- 50:59Speaker 5: I'm having a brave but it's not nothing major. But
- 51:05Speaker 5: they feel like their safety play hasn't been good enough,
- 51:09Speaker 5: and so you go make a move to go.
- 51:10Speaker 3: Get them.
- 51:13Speaker 2: Edmonds. Edmonds in a fifth round.
- 51:16Speaker 3: The safety from Pittsburgh that they signed in the offseason, but.
- 51:18Speaker 2: And a fifth rounder and a sixth rounder in the
- 51:20Speaker 2: next draft.
- 51:21Speaker 5: They'll go get Kevin Byern to that defense once they
- 51:23Speaker 5: get Blanket Ship back.
- 51:25Speaker 3: Now you have Bayern Blanket Ship playing in your deep middle.
- 51:28Speaker 3: That that's a hell of a group back there.
- 51:30Speaker 5: They felt they saw a weakness, felt they needed to
- 51:32Speaker 5: get better, and they did. Jacksonville has a pass rush
- 51:36Speaker 5: weakness on one side.
- 51:37Speaker 3: They need to get better. If you're gonna win this
- 51:39Speaker 3: super if you're gonna.
- 51:40Speaker 5: Go to a Super Bowl or win a Super Bowl,
- 51:42Speaker 5: you have to be able to get to the quarterback
- 51:44Speaker 5: from both sides.
- 51:46Speaker 3: And I don't think Trayvon Walker can do that.
- 51:48Speaker 5: I still think I'm a big believer Travon Walker puts
- 51:50Speaker 5: on twenty pounds, it becomes a good inside player.
- 51:55Speaker 4: Pete.
- 51:56Speaker 6: I guess the biggest or the most concerning things just
- 52:00Speaker 6: the Thursday night he was going against a guy who
- 52:03Speaker 6: brought got brought up from the practic squad that day
- 52:06Speaker 6: in cam Irving.
- 52:08Speaker 3: It was usually terrible when he was in his prime.
- 52:10Speaker 6: By the way, it's not like he was going against Ramchak,
- 52:12Speaker 6: who's a good right tackle in this league, and maybe
- 52:17Speaker 6: Cam Urburn's better.
- 52:18Speaker 4: Than I'm getting credit for.
- 52:22Speaker 6: But that that was my biggest like like, this was
- 52:26Speaker 6: an opportunity. You're going against a guy, practic squad, guy
- 52:31Speaker 6: obviously good enough to be in the NFL, and it
- 52:33Speaker 6: started before, but you would have thought he could have
- 52:37Speaker 6: taken got some more work done against Cam RBN.
- 52:42Speaker 3: He was somewhere.
- 52:44Speaker 5: I saw where he was credited with three pressures. I
- 52:46Speaker 5: looked through that tape again today to see him. I
- 52:48Speaker 5: didn't see him. I didn't see him. I don't know
- 52:50Speaker 5: how they credit him. You remember one in the last
- 52:54Speaker 5: drive at the end, he was he got around the
- 52:56Speaker 5: legs of car at the because he was because Alan
- 53:00Speaker 5: came out o the side. Car kind of bailed toward him,
- 53:02Speaker 5: and they had already Irvin had kind of taken him
- 53:04Speaker 5: at it was taken him out of the play.
- 53:05Speaker 3: But because he bailed there, he was able to get
- 53:07Speaker 3: his hands close to him. But it really wasn't a
- 53:10Speaker 3: pressure where he won. He wasn't good.
- 53:12Speaker 5: If car stays there, he's not winning. And you saw
- 53:16Speaker 5: that a lot, Tony. You saw him just take him
- 53:18Speaker 5: up the field a lot or into get into his
- 53:21Speaker 5: body and just take him up the field. I just
- 53:24Speaker 5: and and look again, if he wasn't the first overall
- 53:28Speaker 5: pick in the draft, maybe consider and say, okay, give
- 53:32Speaker 5: him a little time. But he's the first overall pick
- 53:34Speaker 5: in the draft, and he's not a bad football player.
- 53:36Speaker 5: He's actually a pretty good football player. He's just not
- 53:39Speaker 5: a good pass rusher. And you would think by now
- 53:43Speaker 5: that there would be some moves or techniques or hand
- 53:49Speaker 5: usage or anything to show that he could become a
- 53:53Speaker 5: pass rusher. When was when was like, Okay, I'm gonna
- 53:56Speaker 5: ask this is a legitimate question. When was the last
- 53:58Speaker 5: time you saw him whip a tackle and go get
- 54:03Speaker 5: a sack.
- 54:04Speaker 3: I'm not talking about a.
- 54:05Speaker 5: Stunt where he loops from you know, around the inside
- 54:08Speaker 5: or anything.
- 54:09Speaker 3: When when was the last time? Can you remember one?
- 54:12Speaker 4: I can't. That doesn't mean it didn't happen.
- 54:14Speaker 3: I can't remember him either. JP. What's he credited with
- 54:19Speaker 3: on sacks this year?
- 54:20Speaker 4: Three?
- 54:21Speaker 2: Let's see, Yeah, let's see the official statistics. Jaguars defense
- 54:28Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker two and a half.
- 54:31Speaker 5: Okay, So he had the one last week against Indies
- 54:34Speaker 5: he came.
- 54:35Speaker 2: That was a half sack. That was the half he split.
- 54:40Speaker 2: It was the half in the book he was split.
- 54:42Speaker 2: And then he had the whole sack week four that
- 54:44Speaker 2: would have been against the Buffalo Bills. And then he
- 54:47Speaker 2: had a whole sack week one.
- 54:51Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't think he won on any of them.
- 54:53Speaker 5: Just pure go up the field and win. And that's
- 54:57Speaker 5: that's the problem. Because a good foot player, and he
- 55:00Speaker 5: is a good FOOTBA player, will get a sack here
- 55:03Speaker 5: and there where he stunts in loops in and even
- 55:07Speaker 5: he's not even as great at that anymore.
- 55:08Speaker 3: We've talked about that in the past. I just I
- 55:11Speaker 3: just think if.
- 55:12Speaker 5: You put twenty pounds on him and stuck him down,
- 55:14Speaker 5: and that might not be the answer right now, because
- 55:17Speaker 5: you don't have anybody else who can replace him right now.
- 55:21Speaker 5: But if you've made a deal for Daniel Hunter, you would.
- 55:24Speaker 4: What's it gonna take to get Daniel Hunter?
- 55:27Speaker 5: You know, Rick Rick Spielman, who actually drafted Daniel Hunter,
- 55:31Speaker 5: wrote a story of the thirty third team that he
- 55:33Speaker 5: works for as well as working for us, and I
- 55:35Speaker 5: think he said it would be like a third one
- 55:38Speaker 5: year and a fourth the next year or something like
- 55:40Speaker 5: that for the rental, because you're running him, You're not
- 55:44Speaker 5: gonna be able to pay both him and Josh Allen,
- 55:46Speaker 5: that's a given. But for a third and fourth or
- 55:49Speaker 5: fourth to the fifth or whatever it's worth renning him,
- 55:53Speaker 5: I would do a fourth.
- 55:54Speaker 6: And fifth to like like this second, and I probably
- 55:58Speaker 6: could be talked into a third.
- 55:59Speaker 5: And because you get Danil Hunter and add him to
- 56:03Speaker 5: that defense with Josh Allen and then Trayvon Walker becomes
- 56:07Speaker 5: a rotation player, all of a sudden, you have a
- 56:11Speaker 5: lot of you have talent all across the board.
- 56:13Speaker 2: Does Daniel Hunter defensive left Kenny line up there over
- 56:17Speaker 2: the right tackle he plays?
- 56:19Speaker 3: They play both. But I just think when you look
- 56:23Speaker 3: at that, that's a no brainer to me. That's a
- 56:25Speaker 3: no brainer.
- 56:26Speaker 5: Particular now they play tonight. Should they beat the forty
- 56:33Speaker 5: nine ers tonight? Probably not, But if they did, I
- 56:37Speaker 5: have forty nine ers team you saw last week one
- 56:39Speaker 5: very good.
- 56:40Speaker 4: You want to be.
- 56:42Speaker 3: No, they're not being the forty nine ers. I agree
- 56:44Speaker 3: with you.
- 56:45Speaker 5: It's pleasant's primetime, Kirk Cousins in primetime. We know how
- 56:48Speaker 5: that goes.
- 56:48Speaker 3: But okay, so let's just say they lose this game, they're.
- 56:51Speaker 4: Basically they're done.
- 56:54Speaker 3: Do you and he can't come back next year? He's
- 56:57Speaker 3: not coming back next year.
- 56:58Speaker 5: So if you're the if you're in Minnesota, you put
- 57:01Speaker 5: him on the market, and if you're Jacksonville.
- 57:04Speaker 3: You should be leading that leading that go get them.
- 57:08Speaker 6: If I would be calling them today saying, after you
- 57:12Speaker 6: lose the forty nine ers tonight, we're gonna give you
- 57:17Speaker 6: a fourth and fifth and they're gonna say, no, great,
- 57:19Speaker 6: what will it take?
- 57:20Speaker 4: The three and the four? Okay done? We want him here.
- 57:24Speaker 5: Tuesday and and I think if you did that, it
- 57:28Speaker 5: would be just Tony the one year. If I'm you,
- 57:34Speaker 5: guys trade to get Clyde Simmons that one year I'm
- 57:36Speaker 5: trying to remember or no, he was.
- 57:37Speaker 3: A free agent, he got cut at the last that's right.
- 57:41Speaker 6: He was pre the last cuts. We signed them. We
- 57:44Speaker 6: signed them on the day we were playing the Broncos
- 57:46Speaker 6: the last preseason game, and he flew to Denver and.
- 57:50Speaker 5: Ford that's right, and that's right. He wondered what they
- 57:53Speaker 5: were doing or Couughlin did something, then what are you doing?
- 57:56Speaker 6: Coughlin at halftime lost it because we're getting our butts
- 57:59Speaker 6: beat by the bron This is preseason, by the way.
- 58:02Speaker 6: Number the fourth game, he flipped over the gatorade, the
- 58:06Speaker 6: table with all the gatorade on it and.
- 58:07Speaker 4: Got all over Clyde's suit.
- 58:10Speaker 3: Yeah, and Clyde was like, what is this and what
- 58:12Speaker 3: do I get myself into?
- 58:13Speaker 4: This is the preseason? What are we doing?
- 58:15Speaker 5: But adding a guy like Clyde when they did change that, Yeah,
- 58:20Speaker 5: changes the whole dynamic of But that's what Daniel Hunter
- 58:22Speaker 5: would do for this defense.
- 58:24Speaker 6: Well in seventeen, remember we couldn't stop the run and
- 58:26Speaker 6: they went and traded for Darius Williams and all of
- 58:32Speaker 6: a sudden that defense became one of the best defense
- 58:34Speaker 6: in the history of this franchise.
- 58:38Speaker 2: Marcel Darius Marcel, I'm sorry, Marcel Darius, ye, but.
- 58:43Speaker 3: I'm with you. You have to make they have to
- 58:45Speaker 3: make a move.
- 58:47Speaker 2: And by the way, the Viking GM is a young guy, right,
- 58:51Speaker 2: question was but he was with San Francisco when Balky
- 58:57Speaker 2: was in San Francisco. He was the manager of football
- 59:00Speaker 2: search and development, so he knows them.
- 59:03Speaker 8: Call them.
- 59:03Speaker 5: Here's the other part of that though, The other part
- 59:05Speaker 5: of the question, if your Trent and you make that move,
- 59:12Speaker 5: is that an indictment of your first overall pick, and
- 59:14Speaker 5: in fact an indictment.
- 59:15Speaker 4: Of you, Pete Greats right?
- 59:19Speaker 6: In my opinion, great leaders, great gms don't think that way.
- 59:23Speaker 6: They make They make decisions based on the information at
- 59:26Speaker 6: hand in the present and what's best for the organization.
- 59:29Speaker 3: You would make the deal done?
- 59:32Speaker 4: I would?
- 59:32Speaker 6: I would, I'd be trading for Daniel Hunter. Now, I'm
- 59:35Speaker 6: not going to give up a second for around.
- 59:37Speaker 3: You're not going to give up and nor would you
- 59:39Speaker 3: give up Brian Burns.
- 59:40Speaker 5: You wouldn't give up a first or a second to
- 59:42Speaker 5: go get him or Chase Young. But if you could
- 59:45Speaker 5: get them for a package of a couple of picks
- 59:46Speaker 5: of four and a five or something like that, or
- 59:48Speaker 5: three and a five or something, you have to be
- 59:51Speaker 5: willing to go make that move.
- 59:53Speaker 3: And here's the other part of that equation.
- 59:55Speaker 5: One of those picks this year is tied to an
- 59:57Speaker 5: extension for Calvin Ridley.
- 59:59Speaker 3: The third is Calvin Ridley getting it right now.
- 1:00:02Speaker 5: As is is Calvin Ridley getting the extension from Jacksonville.
- 1:00:06Speaker 4: I mean, who knows too early, but.
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: Right now I'm saying right now as probably not.
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: But they can't trade those picks. Pete is the point.
- 1:00:17Speaker 5: Right right, because you have to save the if you're
- 1:00:20Speaker 5: going to give him an extension.
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: If you're giving him an extension, you have to have
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: that pick available.
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: But you can't do it trade it now, just in
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: case all of a sudden, all hell breaks loose and
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: you don't.
- 1:00:29Speaker 4: Well, what's the most we have to give up for Calvin?
- 1:00:32Speaker 4: It's two?
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: Yeah, if they resign him, I think it's a two.
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: I think there's certain benchmarks to get to a third.
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: But yeah, no, yeah, I personally there's I don't. I
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: can't right now as is, they're not going to resign him.
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: I just can't. With all the Trevor Lawrence deel Come
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: and everything else. They can't resign him.
- 1:00:50Speaker 6: Hell if Yeah, I mean, here's I don't of Minnesota
- 1:00:53Speaker 6: do this because like if you look at the AFC.
- 1:00:57Speaker 6: And this is why could I'm watch football all Sunday.
- 1:01:02Speaker 6: Red Zone is the greatest invention to mankind, by the way,
- 1:01:05Speaker 6: just you're gonna see so much because I don't have
- 1:01:08Speaker 6: the package.
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: I'm too cheap to pay for it for the one
- 1:01:10Speaker 4: Sunday a year.
- 1:01:11Speaker 6: Then yeah, but there's nobody in the AFC PTE.
- 1:01:19Speaker 4: That like. I don't think we can beat like the Chiefs. No,
- 1:01:26Speaker 4: but we can. I'm confident we could beat them. Now.
- 1:01:28Speaker 6: Would they be favored, Yes, no doubt about it because
- 1:01:31Speaker 6: it's gonna be in Kansas City at this point and
- 1:01:32Speaker 6: everything else. But if you went out there beat and
- 1:01:36Speaker 6: played Kansas City, you you'd say, yeah, we can beat them.
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: That almost beat them the first time if they hadn't
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: gone for it at midfield.
- 1:01:44Speaker 6: So my point of saying that there's nobody name like
- 1:01:48Speaker 6: right now, the way I feel about this team, I
- 1:01:50Speaker 6: think we are one of the premier teams in the
- 1:01:51Speaker 6: AFC to go to the Super Bowl.
- 1:01:52Speaker 3: I would agree with you. I would agree with you.
- 1:01:54Speaker 3: I thought it before.
- 1:01:56Speaker 6: And you never know how many how often you're gonna
- 1:01:59Speaker 6: be in this situation. I think we'll be in it
- 1:02:00Speaker 6: a lot because of Trevor Lawrence and Doug Peterson, no
- 1:02:03Speaker 6: doubt about it. But Pete, would you think about based
- 1:02:07Speaker 6: on how certain draft picks are tied up with Calvin
- 1:02:09Speaker 6: Ridley for next year?
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: Let's just say those are tied up. Let's say we
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: can't do anything.
- 1:02:13Speaker 6: Would you give it to a two overall pit number
- 1:02:17Speaker 6: two second round pick in twenty five?
- 1:02:21Speaker 5: Yeah, daneil Hunter, maybe I give it a third and
- 1:02:27Speaker 5: twenty five though, Oh.
- 1:02:29Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a no brainer. You give it a third
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: probably this year.
- 1:02:31Speaker 5: Yeah, but then what linebacker from what university? Would he
- 1:02:33Speaker 5: not be able to draft that?
- 1:02:36Speaker 6: My point is you have an opportunity because you're what
- 1:02:39Speaker 6: you've proven after seven games, and I believe it's going
- 1:02:42Speaker 6: to be the same after eight games. So I think
- 1:02:44Speaker 6: they beat the Steelers this week because I don't think
- 1:02:46Speaker 6: the Steelers are very good offensively at all.
- 1:02:49Speaker 3: Played better the other day though, Okay.
- 1:02:52Speaker 6: Whatever, if you're six and two, which I think we
- 1:02:54Speaker 6: will be. If you're six and two, you were sitting
- 1:02:57Speaker 6: in a position where the number one overall he's still
- 1:03:00Speaker 6: in play a lot of football left. You've proven you're
- 1:03:04Speaker 6: one of the best teams in the AFC, and you
- 1:03:08Speaker 6: know you need more pass rushing help because right now,
- 1:03:10Speaker 6: the only guy who can win consistently, you know, at
- 1:03:13Speaker 6: a high rate, is Josh Allen.
- 1:03:16Speaker 4: Do you, I mean, do you.
- 1:03:18Speaker 6: Give maybe a little bit more than you're comfortable with
- 1:03:20Speaker 6: to go get that guy to complete your defense?
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: Yes?
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: I think I would.
- 1:03:26Speaker 5: How much better would the secondary be if they had
- 1:03:28Speaker 5: another guy rushing the passer like that?
- 1:03:30Speaker 4: And by the way, we haven't gotten to that. Monterrek
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: Brown played one hell of.
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: A game he did he did in the secondary.
- 1:03:36Speaker 11: Give that kid credit because everyone's talking about him, everyone's
- 1:03:40Speaker 11: worried about him, and he had the game winning stop
- 1:03:43Speaker 11: at the end, and he had another one in the
- 1:03:45Speaker 11: first half against Michael Thomas.
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: That was big time Monterrek Brown. Hats off to that guy.
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: Yep, we'll come back. Well, keep it real when we
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- 1:04:14Speaker 9: We all know what Tyson who Tyson Campbell is, and
- 1:04:17Speaker 9: he obviously he's our guy, but to have solid backup
- 1:04:20Speaker 9: players that can fill in and step up. It's just
- 1:04:23Speaker 9: exactly what I was talking to the team about, you know,
- 1:04:25Speaker 9: the next man up mentality, and we got to fill
- 1:04:27Speaker 9: in the gap. And listen, Mike Cardwell did a nice
- 1:04:30Speaker 9: job calling the game because we helped we helped Buster
- 1:04:32Speaker 9: a little bit with a safe with safety help and
- 1:04:35Speaker 9: and things of that nature.
- 1:04:38Speaker 8: You know.
- 1:04:38Speaker 9: But but just just really pleased with, uh, with how
- 1:04:41Speaker 9: Buster played in that environment. That's a that's an extremely
- 1:04:45Speaker 9: you know, tough environment to go in there. And and
- 1:04:47Speaker 9: of course they've got you know, a Lave and Michael
- 1:04:50Speaker 9: Thomas and and you know, some really good skilled athletes
- 1:04:54Speaker 9: out there.
- 1:04:54Speaker 8: And and he held up, he held up nicely.
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: You having head coach Doug Peterson with the answer about
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: the cornerback play in the Superdome Thursday night, Welcome back
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: to Jaguars Happy Hour. Get ready for the tailgate with
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: Tony benefiting the Biselli Foundation coming up Sunday, November nineteenth,
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: Metropolitan Park ahead of the Titans Jaguars matchup. It starts
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: at ten am, finishes at twelve thirty before the one
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: pm kick, live music, Q and A with Tony and
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: Jaguars Legends. They are all inclusive ticket options visit Bissellifoundation
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: dot com for more and use the promo code Tony
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: fifty Tony five zero for fifty dollars off your entry fee.
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: It all benefits the foundation. Tony, how about that?
- 1:05:40Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be as it
- 1:05:44Speaker 6: said at the met Park. It would be live music, food,
- 1:05:48Speaker 6: VIP section. It's gonna be a huge tailgate up to
- 1:05:52Speaker 6: the lead up to the Titans game, and you have
- 1:05:55Speaker 6: a bunch of great sponsors selling tickets. Hopefully it's packed
- 1:05:58Speaker 6: in every dollar we'll go to our teacher fellowship program
- 1:06:03Speaker 6: that we do here in North Florida as well as
- 1:06:05Speaker 6: our mentoring of young men who are either in or
- 1:06:08Speaker 6: getting out of juvenile detention centers.
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: Fantastic, Well, go check it out Baselli Foundation dot com
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: for all the time ye come up for it, Pete.
- 1:06:21Speaker 3: Believe me, if I could get to do that on
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: a Sunday, I would love to.
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: Hey, it's time to keep it real presented by Woodbridge
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- 1:06:31Speaker 2: Award winning wine by Robert Mundavi. And I just realized
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: that Tony's probably been hoarding the boxes of wine to
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: use for the event in a few weeks. That's probably
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: where all the wine is. Pete.
- 1:06:44Speaker 5: You know what I would, I would donate my case
- 1:06:47Speaker 5: to Tony's event if that were, If that were indeed,
- 1:06:49Speaker 5: they so tell Bob, Robert and Gang that we would
- 1:06:53Speaker 5: love to get some cases donated. And Tony, I don't
- 1:06:57Speaker 5: drink a lot of wine, so I would donate my
- 1:06:59Speaker 5: case to you.
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: Wow. How about that?
- 1:07:02Speaker 4: Thank you, Peter love that.
- 1:07:04Speaker 3: Uh.
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: The conversation today about keeping it real has to do
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: with the secondary and you know, coming into the season
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: that was a question mark, what's this thing really going
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: to look like? Who's playing nickel? Can Darius Williams hold
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: up on the outside? You know what Tyson Campbell is?
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: What's the depth there? How do you feel about it now?
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: After seven games, especially at the cornerback position. Considering this,
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: Darius Williams leads the league and passes defense eleven of
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: them and in the game on Thursday, Herndon had seven tackles,
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: a quarterback hit, two passes defense, Darius Williams five tackles,
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: two of the passes defensed, and you mentioned Monterrek Brown.
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: Tony four tackles, two passes defense in his first career start.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: That's a trio of corners that played really big. How
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: do you feel now after seven weeks?
- 1:07:55Speaker 6: So I will say I was wrong. In the offseason,
- 1:07:58Speaker 6: I was critical. I thought they needed to go get
- 1:08:01Speaker 6: a free agent corner to add depth because I was
- 1:08:03Speaker 6: worried about what we were gonna do at nickel. I
- 1:08:06Speaker 6: was worried about, you know, depth across the board at
- 1:08:09Speaker 6: the cornerback position, and obviously had confidence in Tyson, great player,
- 1:08:16Speaker 6: and improve has proven it out so far. Darius Williams
- 1:08:19Speaker 6: has played way better than I thought he would. He's
- 1:08:25Speaker 6: doing great.
- 1:08:25Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, you know, it's almost you know,
- 1:08:29Speaker 5: it's almost laughable now is that they tried to play
- 1:08:30Speaker 5: him inside last year early in the season.
- 1:08:33Speaker 3: That's laughable, by the way.
- 1:08:34Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess I was just jaded by because he
- 1:08:37Speaker 6: was not a very good nickel. He's played great Trey Herndon,
- 1:08:43Speaker 6: and I give my call credit because Trey he he's
- 1:08:45Speaker 6: putting Trey Herndon in positions that he's good at, which
- 1:08:47Speaker 6: is playing predominantly zone blitzee him on occasion, and he's
- 1:08:51Speaker 6: a very good run defender.
- 1:08:53Speaker 4: So I give like Trey. I never thought Trey was
- 1:08:55Speaker 4: a bad football player.
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: It's just Chase.
- 1:08:59Speaker 6: You thought I was imited, like you can't play Man
- 1:09:02Speaker 6: and they wanted to play Mann last year and I'm like, guy, like,
- 1:09:04Speaker 6: he can't do it.
- 1:09:05Speaker 4: That's not his skill set. And so I gave Mike
- 1:09:08Speaker 4: Colbo a lot of credit trades a good football player.
- 1:09:11Speaker 4: He's doing a great job.
- 1:09:12Speaker 6: And then, my goodness, based on the preseason and everything else,
- 1:09:16Speaker 6: I did not see Montera Brown coming in and playing
- 1:09:19Speaker 6: the way he did against the Saints.
- 1:09:20Speaker 4: So.
- 1:09:22Speaker 3: Particularly after the way he played the week before.
- 1:09:25Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't see it, Pete.
- 1:09:26Speaker 6: So I still like when I said I was wrong,
- 1:09:28Speaker 6: I still think they probably should have got depth during
- 1:09:31Speaker 6: the offseason there, but they've proven that they didn't need
- 1:09:35Speaker 6: to obviously because the way this group's playing after seven weeks,
- 1:09:39Speaker 6: they're playing great.
- 1:09:41Speaker 3: And I agree with you.
- 1:09:42Speaker 5: Deris Williams has exceeded all expectations. He's been outstanding. Tyson
- 1:09:46Speaker 5: Campbell's a really, really talented corner Herndon, You're right, they've
- 1:09:51Speaker 5: covered him up and he's played well. Montera Brown the
- 1:09:56Speaker 5: week before was bad when he went in, I mean,
- 1:09:58Speaker 5: there's no other way, and seeing the way he played
- 1:10:01Speaker 5: the other day, he looked like an NFL starting corner.
- 1:10:04Speaker 3: He played that well.
- 1:10:07Speaker 5: I'm impressed, and I think the secondary as a whole
- 1:10:09Speaker 5: because Cisco's taken the next step. And Ray Shawn Jenkins,
- 1:10:12Speaker 5: you know, he'll feast or famine, but he's he's been
- 1:10:15Speaker 5: the last couple of games, he's been really good. So
- 1:10:17Speaker 5: I think as a group, it's it's much better than
- 1:10:20Speaker 5: I thought it would be much better.
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: You know, remember going into the game, Doug Peterson told
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: me on the pregame interview, Tony, you'll remember this that,
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, Montery Brown is a player to watch
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: in this game. He's his first ever start, and we've
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: got to Von Campbell up off the practice squad just
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: in case there's some exposure there. We've got to make
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: some changes. So they were even like going into the game,
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: let's just be careful and give him all the help
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: we can. They use some safety help. They changed a
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: lot of things going in. But yeah, all the credit
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: to Montera for for stepping.
- 1:10:51Speaker 3: When he was messed up a man the man coverage,
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: he held his own.
- 1:10:54Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I still think they should
- 1:10:56Speaker 6: have added depth during the offseason.
- 1:10:58Speaker 5: I think I think part of that was because of
- 1:11:01Speaker 5: the preseason, they thought like Braswell would be a guy
- 1:11:04Speaker 5: that would be factoring in, you know, so they thought
- 1:11:08Speaker 5: he's on ir right, so he's eligible to come back
- 1:11:11Speaker 5: and at some.
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: Point, but he'll be back.
- 1:11:14Speaker 5: But I think that like the boxer starting a nickel
- 1:11:18Speaker 5: corner who's a rookie from Rutgers who was on the
- 1:11:20Speaker 5: same team with Braswell, and Braswell was the better player,
- 1:11:23Speaker 5: so I think maybe they thought he could come in
- 1:11:25Speaker 5: and be a part of it too.
- 1:11:26Speaker 3: But I'm with you, they probably should have added a
- 1:11:29Speaker 3: veteran corner at some point for bet depth anyways.
- 1:11:32Speaker 6: Yeah, but with that said, where I was wrong is
- 1:11:34Speaker 6: I did not see them playing this well.
- 1:11:36Speaker 3: No me either. Imagine if they had another pass rusher.
- 1:11:43Speaker 2: That is Keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert
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- 1:11:53Speaker 2: he certainly knows the assignment of keeping it real. I'll
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: say that, Yeah, always keep it real.
- 1:12:00Speaker 4: Oh isn't the whole show show keep it real?
- 1:12:03Speaker 3: Yeah, but we really keep it real. When we get
- 1:12:06Speaker 3: to keep it real.
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- 1:12:47Speaker 8: Travis.
- 1:12:47Speaker 9: Travis is a tough kid, and you know we've seen
- 1:12:50Speaker 9: that over the course of last year for the start
- 1:12:52Speaker 9: of this year, and and yeah, we've got to be
- 1:12:54Speaker 9: mindful that we're not overworking him. You know, we got
- 1:12:59Speaker 9: to get Tank and Earnest and if Jamichael's up, we've
- 1:13:02Speaker 9: got to get those guys involved in the offense and
- 1:13:04Speaker 9: and you know, get them some more touches right now,
- 1:13:08Speaker 9: especially on third down. We like we like TJ you know,
- 1:13:11Speaker 9: on third down and from not only from a protection standpoint,
- 1:13:14Speaker 9: but the ability to catch.
- 1:13:15Speaker 8: The ball out of the backfield.
- 1:13:16Speaker 9: And you know, we just we just got to keep
- 1:13:19Speaker 9: the other guys coming, and it's not that we don't
- 1:13:21Speaker 9: have confidence in them.
- 1:13:22Speaker 8: We just feel like, you know, Trevor Or TJ rather
- 1:13:25Speaker 8: has the.
- 1:13:25Speaker 9: Has the hot hand and and we can we continue
- 1:13:28Speaker 9: to keep.
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: Him going, I said coach Doug Peterson, of course, discussing
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: Travis Etn junior. He's now scored two touchdowns in three
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: consecutive games, the first Jaguar in history to do such
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- 1:13:43Speaker 2: Happy Hour JP Shadwick with Tony Bisselli and Pete Prisco
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- 1:13:50Speaker 2: They brought some Plaine wings. They brought some pretzel bites
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: with beer cheese on the side, and for some reason
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: they brought salad. I don't know what that was for,
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: but they brought for We know it's not for you.
- 1:14:03Speaker 5: Pretzel bites with a little cheese is always a good
- 1:14:05Speaker 5: thing when you're having a few beers.
- 1:14:08Speaker 3: Yeah, Jp, you can't have beers on the air, No, buddy.
- 1:14:11Speaker 2: No, you can't. No in London. Wow, you know you missed, Pete.
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: You weren't there.
- 1:14:19Speaker 3: You're admitting that.
- 1:14:22Speaker 4: Well, we were at a pump.
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you want?
- 1:14:28Speaker 3: So, JP, what are you going to go into today?
- 1:14:29Speaker 3: The pretzel bytes are the wings?
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and it's been done already. I mean I
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: already had some right before the show. So they always
- 1:14:40Speaker 2: treat our production crew great on Mondays. Everybody's in here adding.
- 1:14:43Speaker 3: Little sluggish to start the show?
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: Wasn't he tony? Was the pretzel bytes?
- 1:14:49Speaker 4: Yeah?
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- 1:15:15Speaker 2: had created today. This is from that Saint Jaggs fan.
- 1:15:18Speaker 2: Why is the offense struggling to play a complete game
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: and what can be done to fix that?
- 1:15:25Speaker 4: Well, let's level.
- 1:15:27Speaker 6: Set here a little bit, guys. Last time I checked,
- 1:15:31Speaker 6: they scored over thirty points.
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: Again, one was a defensive touchdown.
- 1:15:37Speaker 6: It doesn't matter. Go look at scoring is way down
- 1:15:40Speaker 6: in this league this year and every offense for the
- 1:15:42Speaker 6: most part has moments where they have huge roles in
- 1:15:46Speaker 6: struggle and so, yes, this offense is not what I
- 1:15:52Speaker 6: think either Peter or I expected. With that said, I
- 1:15:56Speaker 6: don't think they're struggling. I think they're not at the
- 1:16:00Speaker 6: level we expected. But still, if you go if you
- 1:16:03Speaker 6: look at their production based on the rest of the league,
- 1:16:07Speaker 6: you're they're in the upper They're in the upper twenty
- 1:16:10Speaker 6: thirty percent of this league.
- 1:16:12Speaker 4: I would say in terms of.
- 1:16:15Speaker 3: Like the points, I'll tell you a second scoring offense
- 1:16:20Speaker 3: points per game, they are ninth.
- 1:16:23Speaker 4: Yeah, so they're top ten scoring offense. You know, could
- 1:16:27Speaker 4: it be better?
- 1:16:27Speaker 8: Sure?
- 1:16:29Speaker 6: Does it need to be better? Yes, I think it
- 1:16:30Speaker 6: will get and I think it will get better. But
- 1:16:32Speaker 6: I don't like the narrative that they're struggling. I don't
- 1:16:35Speaker 6: think that's accurate.
- 1:16:36Speaker 3: They're fourteenth in yards per game.
- 1:16:39Speaker 4: I don't think they're struggling.
- 1:16:40Speaker 3: Though.
- 1:16:40Speaker 5: No, it's just not the dynamic offense that we expected
- 1:16:43Speaker 5: it to be.
- 1:16:44Speaker 3: I agree, at least me me too.
- 1:16:46Speaker 6: I thought Listen, I said on this show and on
- 1:16:49Speaker 6: Dan and Jeff's show in the morning, I thought this
- 1:16:52Speaker 6: would be the most prolific offense in the history of
- 1:16:55Speaker 6: this franchise, and when I was thinking about points and yards,
- 1:16:58Speaker 6: and they're.
- 1:16:59Speaker 4: Not that right now.
- 1:17:00Speaker 3: No they're not.
- 1:17:02Speaker 4: But I don't think they're struggling.
- 1:17:04Speaker 5: How many points? If they scored total, what's the total
- 1:17:06Speaker 5: point number? Then it's so they're averaging. I mean, if
- 1:17:12Speaker 5: you look at it, they're on pace for a heck
- 1:17:16Speaker 5: of the scoring season though.
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: They've scored one hundred and seventy three points pete.
- 1:17:20Speaker 5: So okay, divide that out and you you figure what
- 1:17:23Speaker 5: in seven games.
- 1:17:25Speaker 4: One hundred and seventy three you said the JP correct
- 1:17:30Speaker 4: divided by seven, it's about twenty twenty five, just under
- 1:17:34Speaker 4: twenty five points.
- 1:17:34Speaker 3: Okay, Now go now multiply that by by seventeen.
- 1:17:40Speaker 4: Twenty points.
- 1:17:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:17:42Speaker 5: I thought they'd score five hundred or pushed for five hundred.
- 1:17:45Speaker 5: They're not going to get that, But but they're they're
- 1:17:48Speaker 5: going to get four hundred and something and that's still
- 1:17:51Speaker 5: a pretty good season.
- 1:17:51Speaker 3: And if they get the.
- 1:17:52Speaker 5: Thing roll and they still haven't, I still don't think
- 1:17:54Speaker 5: we've seen the best of this offense, and not even close.
- 1:17:57Speaker 3: I don't mean the last time has.
- 1:17:59Speaker 5: There been any point season where they've gone up, scored,
- 1:18:02Speaker 5: drove down the field ten play eighty yard drive, ten
- 1:18:04Speaker 5: play eighty yard drive.
- 1:18:05Speaker 3: Boom people up and down field.
- 1:18:07Speaker 6: The first part of the Saints game, I was like,
- 1:18:09Speaker 6: this is the offense they were playing. Bam bam, bam,
- 1:18:11Speaker 6: bam bam bam.
- 1:18:15Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:18:15Speaker 3: I still think there's gonna be more chunk plays coming.
- 1:18:18Speaker 2: I agree at the Black Gats we underscore. When will
- 1:18:22Speaker 2: Pete give Trayvon love?
- 1:18:27Speaker 5: I mean, I said he's a good football player, I
- 1:18:29Speaker 5: just don't think he's a good pass rusher. I'll give
- 1:18:32Speaker 5: him love when they put twenty on him and move
- 1:18:34Speaker 5: him inside and let him become a beast on the inside,
- 1:18:35Speaker 5: because I think he could.
- 1:18:39Speaker 6: I don't understand the question. I don't think Pete has
- 1:18:42Speaker 6: killed Trayvon, And what is there something we are missing?
- 1:18:47Speaker 6: I guess would be my question back that we should
- 1:18:49Speaker 6: be applauding him, that that we haven't, that we haven't
- 1:18:53Speaker 6: called out because I think both Pete and I think
- 1:18:54Speaker 6: he's a really good football player.
- 1:18:56Speaker 4: Is disruptive against the run.
- 1:18:58Speaker 6: Now, I don't think he was that disrupt against the
- 1:19:00Speaker 6: run at least that you know, as much as he
- 1:19:03Speaker 6: had in the past against the Saints. But I think
- 1:19:05Speaker 6: he's a he's a good football player. I don't think
- 1:19:08Speaker 6: Pete and I have ever said anything different. We questioned
- 1:19:11Speaker 6: the pass.
- 1:19:12Speaker 5: Rush, Yeah, I got somebody sent me something where he's
- 1:19:15Speaker 5: in uh pressure rate percentage of past rushers. He's like
- 1:19:21Speaker 5: they consider him seventh in the league or something like that.
- 1:19:24Speaker 5: I'm like, what, No, No, I don't understand where that
- 1:19:29Speaker 5: came from.
- 1:19:29Speaker 4: Is that some website from the someone's basement? Because there's more.
- 1:19:32Speaker 6: Here's the problem with all the analytics today's world. You
- 1:19:37Speaker 6: never know where they come from and what are they
- 1:19:40Speaker 6: looking at, and who is putting these numbers together.
- 1:19:42Speaker 4: There's not like like there's no official, like tell me
- 1:19:46Speaker 4: the official.
- 1:19:48Speaker 5: And Tony we talked about the one pressure we kind
- 1:19:51Speaker 5: of gave him credit for and the other day and
- 1:19:54Speaker 5: I just that's not to me.
- 1:19:55Speaker 3: That's not really winning.
- 1:20:01Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:20:02Speaker 2: Next question at will p eight eight eight, are you
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: concerned about Agnew having more touches than Ridley? Well that's
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: not for the season obviously, but the last few's game
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: he did.
- 1:20:14Speaker 4: Oh he talked about Ridley was doubled a lot of
- 1:20:16Speaker 4: that game.
- 1:20:18Speaker 5: Yeah, they they set out to take him away, That's
- 1:20:22Speaker 5: that's what they wanted to do. And and you get
- 1:20:25Speaker 5: a play like you get the kirk late in the
- 1:20:26Speaker 5: game because.
- 1:20:27Speaker 3: They did take him away.
- 1:20:30Speaker 2: How about the shot that Agnew took on the punt return,
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: that was that hit to Von Campbell in the back
- 1:20:36Speaker 2: the muff punt.
- 1:20:37Speaker 4: I'm glady.
- 1:20:38Speaker 6: I'm glad he wasn't concussed because he took a shot
- 1:20:41Speaker 6: right to.
- 1:20:41Speaker 2: The chops smoke and was evaluated then came back in
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: the game.
- 1:20:47Speaker 3: But that was big too. They held him without a
- 1:20:49Speaker 3: touchdown in that scenario.
- 1:20:51Speaker 2: It was big. Another example of the defense stepping up
- 1:20:55Speaker 2: in a big moment when they were on the field
- 1:20:57Speaker 2: a line. One more question this from Matt Trevor, Chase
- 1:21:00Speaker 2: Young or Brian Burns or danelled Hunter. Should they try
- 1:21:04Speaker 2: and acquire one of them before the deadline? If they do,
- 1:21:07Speaker 2: which current starter on defense sets.
- 1:21:11Speaker 10: So.
- 1:21:11Speaker 6: I don't think i'd go up with Brian Burns because
- 1:21:13Speaker 6: I don't think the Panthers are gonna give give him
- 1:21:15Speaker 6: up unless you have a first or second rounder. And
- 1:21:18Speaker 6: I don't think they're gonna sign him long term because
- 1:21:24Speaker 6: I think ultimately Josh is earning that right now. I
- 1:21:28Speaker 6: don't know what it would const get Chase Young another
- 1:21:30Speaker 6: young player. I don't think as much as Brian Burns
- 1:21:33Speaker 6: because he has injury history. So either I would kick
- 1:21:37Speaker 6: tires on Chase Young Myke, but my choice would be
- 1:21:39Speaker 6: Daniel Hunter.
- 1:21:42Speaker 3: I would I would go after Danil Hunter because I
- 1:21:44Speaker 3: don't think you'd have to give up as much to
- 1:21:45Speaker 3: go get him in.
- 1:21:47Speaker 5: That's Ternerio by the way. Here here I found it.
- 1:21:49Speaker 5: The top ten. This is Seth Seth Walder, who I
- 1:21:52Speaker 5: think is an analytics guy. The top ten players in
- 1:21:55Speaker 5: pass rush win rate in week seven through the late
- 1:21:58Speaker 5: game window. So was during the game. Okay, Trayvon Walker
- 1:22:03Speaker 5: was number seven? What are they watching? You watch the tape?
- 1:22:08Speaker 5: Didn't you, Tony? And you watch a game?
- 1:22:10Speaker 4: I don't. I don't understand that.
- 1:22:13Speaker 3: Josh Allen was fourth.
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: Seth Walter is sports analytics content specialist for ESPN.
- 1:22:19Speaker 5: Okay, here's the other one. Tony Josh Allen was fourth.
- 1:22:24Speaker 5: Cam Jordan was fifth.
- 1:22:27Speaker 6: How did how is Cam Jordan fifth when they had
- 1:22:30Speaker 6: one pressure on the entire night?
- 1:22:32Speaker 3: I don't. I don't get it. I don't get this.
- 1:22:36Speaker 3: So that goes to show you sometimes.
- 1:22:37Speaker 5: We me and Tony get all over PFF in places
- 1:22:41Speaker 5: like that for their analytics and everything. There's no conceivable
- 1:22:44Speaker 5: way that Trayvon Walker had this type.
- 1:22:47Speaker 3: By the way, tid Aaron.
- 1:22:48Speaker 5: Donald yesterday for the seventh seventh on the most past
- 1:22:53Speaker 5: rushed win rate.
- 1:22:54Speaker 3: I mean, how do you calculate that, Pete?
- 1:22:59Speaker 6: I'm gonna keep my mouth shut because you know how
- 1:23:02Speaker 6: I feel in general about the people watching the tape.
- 1:23:05Speaker 6: Do they understand what they're looking at and what everyone's
- 1:23:07Speaker 6: responsibilities are.
- 1:23:10Speaker 5: I mean, I said out a tweet the other day
- 1:23:13Speaker 5: when he was watching the game before I even watch
- 1:23:14Speaker 5: the tape and said, did he need to make the trip?
- 1:23:17Speaker 5: I mean, I don't. I didn't see and then go
- 1:23:20Speaker 5: back and watch it a couple of times. I don't
- 1:23:22Speaker 5: see the pressures. I just don't so. And that's not
- 1:23:24Speaker 5: to kill him because I said he's a good football player.
- 1:23:26Speaker 5: He's just not an edge rusher. That's not what he is.
- 1:23:29Speaker 5: I think he could be. I think he could be
- 1:23:31Speaker 5: an all world down player. I really do.
- 1:23:36Speaker 2: Yeah, but Tony's not. He's kind of shutting it down
- 1:23:40Speaker 2: on this one.
- 1:23:41Speaker 4: I'm not shutting it down. I don't know what to say.
- 1:23:43Speaker 4: I mean, I'm with Pete.
- 1:23:44Speaker 3: I mean, you.
- 1:23:44Speaker 5: Agree that he could end up being a pretty good
- 1:23:46Speaker 5: down player if you put twenty kalais campbell ish.
- 1:23:51Speaker 6: You know he's an explosive, strong, long defensive alignment. I
- 1:23:55Speaker 6: do not, but he has not shown me to date
- 1:23:58Speaker 6: that he is an edge rusher.
- 1:24:00Speaker 3: Correct.
- 1:24:01Speaker 2: All right, the questions are in. Thanks for all the
- 1:24:03Speaker 2: submissions today on X. A lot of good posts today.
- 1:24:07Speaker 2: We always like those. And kick off the second half
- 1:24:10Speaker 2: of the season at the Bank when the Jaguars take
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: on the San Francisco forty nine Ers Sunday, November twelfth.
- 1:24:16Speaker 2: Kickoff is set for one o'clock for now at least,
- 1:24:19Speaker 2: and tickets are going fast. Secure your seats Jaguars dot com,
- 1:24:22Speaker 2: slash tickets. We'll see what happens. Hey, the window to
- 1:24:27Speaker 2: a flex it could be could be coming, and we'll
- 1:24:31Speaker 2: see if NBC pulls the trigger or not and goes
- 1:24:34Speaker 2: after it. But it would be a big ball game
- 1:24:37Speaker 2: if both teams could win this week, Tony, for sure.
- 1:24:42Speaker 3: I'd love to see it flex. That'd be great for
- 1:24:44Speaker 3: the city.
- 1:24:46Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be awesome. Another night game. They already got
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: two on the schedule coming up, and the Bengals and
- 1:24:51Speaker 2: the Ravens, and if they were to flex into one
- 1:24:54Speaker 2: mid season, that would be.
- 1:24:55Speaker 5: A who When are those Bengals and Ravens games December.
- 1:24:58Speaker 2: They're in December. They're not far apart from each other either,
- 1:25:02Speaker 2: and they are Jaguars schedule Bengals December fourth is Monday Night,
- 1:25:10Speaker 2: and then the eight twenty on December seventeenth, Week fifteen,
- 1:25:14Speaker 2: so week thirteen and week fifteen.
- 1:25:17Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's a little stretch there when you look.
- 1:25:21Speaker 2: At that forty nine ers, all right, So Steelers this
- 1:25:24Speaker 2: week bye week forty nine ers, Titans at the Texans,
- 1:25:28Speaker 2: which is never easy, and then home against the Bengals,
- 1:25:32Speaker 2: at the Browns home against the I mean, and then
- 1:25:36Speaker 2: the Ravens at home, and then at the.
- 1:25:38Speaker 5: Bucks Bucks Panthers and Titans, and by then the Titans
- 1:25:42Speaker 5: will be playing a rookie quarterback probably. The Titans obviously
- 1:25:46Speaker 5: are in sell off mode. If they got rid of
- 1:25:49Speaker 5: Kevin Byer, they're in sell off mode. So who's next,
- 1:25:51Speaker 5: Dereck Henry.
- 1:25:55Speaker 6: Pete, I'm with you, I mean, it's I thought the
- 1:25:58Speaker 6: Titans would be a bigger challenge this year, but based
- 1:26:03Speaker 6: on getting read of buyered and kind of how they're playing.
- 1:26:06Speaker 3: Quarterbacks hurt, quarterbacks hurt.
- 1:26:09Speaker 4: It could be, uh, it could get interesting, like.
- 1:26:14Speaker 5: The next time you play them, or both times you
- 1:26:17Speaker 5: play them, it could be with a rookie quarterback yep,
- 1:26:21Speaker 5: Which means technically, if that were the case, you should
- 1:26:25Speaker 5: have been playing six games in your division against rookie
- 1:26:28Speaker 5: quarterbacks because Anthony Richardson right, you played them once, you
- 1:26:33Speaker 5: would have been playing them twice, and you got DJ
- 1:26:35Speaker 5: Stroud twice and and probably will Levis because even if
- 1:26:39Speaker 5: Milik will As starts, he's not going to last there.
- 1:26:42Speaker 5: So you might get a rookie quarterback in two of
- 1:26:45Speaker 5: those games. That that changes the dynamic of those division
- 1:26:48Speaker 5: games for sure.
- 1:26:49Speaker 6: Well, Pete, we thought, I think both of us.
- 1:26:56Speaker 4: Again, oh, I said, I think, Pete, both of you
- 1:26:59Speaker 4: and I.
- 1:27:00Speaker 6: Both you and I had them going five and one
- 1:27:02Speaker 6: in the division this year. I think that's where we
- 1:27:04Speaker 6: ended up. And if you look at it, they're two
- 1:27:07Speaker 6: and one right now. They got Houston again, probably their
- 1:27:11Speaker 6: toughest division matchup left because the way CJ.
- 1:27:14Speaker 4: Strad is playing.
- 1:27:17Speaker 6: But you should sweep if I mean, based on where
- 1:27:20Speaker 6: the Titans are going and where we're going right now,
- 1:27:22Speaker 6: you should expect to sweep then.
- 1:27:24Speaker 5: But the schedule, the schedule is still tough. I mean,
- 1:27:27Speaker 5: me and JP just talked about it. You got the Steelers,
- 1:27:30Speaker 5: that's not an easy game. Then you get the Niners,
- 1:27:32Speaker 5: two physical teams in a row.
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: Then you get the Titans, but you have a bye
- 1:27:36Speaker 3: week between the two, right Then.
- 1:27:37Speaker 5: You get the Titans. Then you get the Texas and no, yeah,
- 1:27:40Speaker 5: then the Texans. Then that December little run where you
- 1:27:43Speaker 5: get Monday night football against the Bengals, the Browns on
- 1:27:46Speaker 5: the road, and then the Ravens at home.
- 1:27:50Speaker 4: Now it's tough.
- 1:27:54Speaker 2: You know, if you're a good team, you can handle
- 1:27:55Speaker 2: some of those though, And then.
- 1:27:59Speaker 6: Wait a second, I don't want like, don't get me
- 1:28:01Speaker 6: if yeah, they are a good team. They just handled
- 1:28:04Speaker 6: a tough four game stretch and they handled it like
- 1:28:06Speaker 6: pro That's great.
- 1:28:07Speaker 2: I'm not saying they didn't. I'm saying if you want
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: to take that next step and be the number one seed,
- 1:28:11Speaker 2: you're gonna have to handle a stretch like that.
- 1:28:12Speaker 3: Again, I don't the season. They should win what I say,
- 1:28:16Speaker 3: thirteen games?
- 1:28:17Speaker 4: You said thirteen and four, Pete, Yeah, so that.
- 1:28:21Speaker 3: Means they got to go the rest of the way.
- 1:28:22Speaker 3: They gotta go what seven and seven and two?
- 1:28:26Speaker 6: I I they have the eight two. I had them
- 1:28:31Speaker 6: an eleven and six.
- 1:28:33Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if they're going to go eight
- 1:28:34Speaker 5: and two with that schedule because the raven I mean,
- 1:28:39Speaker 5: but the last three are all winnable easily. I mean
- 1:28:43Speaker 5: Buccaneers on the road, Panthers at home, Titans on the road.
- 1:28:46Speaker 3: If the Titans are packing it up.
- 1:28:48Speaker 6: Well, Pete, but I actually think if you go through all,
- 1:28:51Speaker 6: I mean, there's no doubt Pittsburgh always tough in Pittsburgh,
- 1:28:54Speaker 6: tough game. Forty nine Ers, probably the most talented team
- 1:28:57Speaker 6: if they're healthy.
- 1:28:58Speaker 3: Toughest game of all of them.
- 1:28:59Speaker 4: Tough Cleveland.
- 1:29:01Speaker 6: You have Cleveland coming up great, not very good offensively,
- 1:29:05Speaker 6: but you better strap it up defensively.
- 1:29:09Speaker 3: Bengals. Bengals will be Burrow.
- 1:29:12Speaker 4: You know, they can get going.
- 1:29:13Speaker 6: And you have the Ravens, who five and two, and
- 1:29:16Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson is playing from the pocket more.
- 1:29:19Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson's playing. Lamar Jackson's playing great. He played great yesterday.
- 1:29:23Speaker 4: He's playing great.
- 1:29:24Speaker 6: So like you got but each of but so they're
- 1:29:26Speaker 6: all tough games, and there's you know, and then there's
- 1:29:28Speaker 6: ones you know, not thinking about. Houston's no cake watches.
- 1:29:31Speaker 6: Basically this franchise, it's a tough schedule. But Pete every
- 1:29:37Speaker 6: one of those games we just talked about. I think
- 1:29:40Speaker 6: we could. I mean, like, yeah, it's hard, but it's
- 1:29:42Speaker 6: not like, oh gosh, we have no I think we
- 1:29:44Speaker 6: should win.
- 1:29:46Speaker 4: We should be.
- 1:29:47Speaker 6: We should beat the forty nine ers in our own stadium,
- 1:29:49Speaker 6: with them travel across the country, we should beat them.
- 1:29:52Speaker 5: By the way, think about this for a second. The
- 1:29:54Speaker 5: number one scoring defense in the league, Baltimore coming up.
- 1:29:58Speaker 5: San Francisco, number two scoring defense the league. You already
- 1:30:00Speaker 5: play Kansas City, they're the number three scoring defensive league.
- 1:30:03Speaker 5: You already played Buffalo, they're the number five scoring defense
- 1:30:06Speaker 5: in the league. You play Tampa Bay, they're the number
- 1:30:08Speaker 5: six scoring defense in the league. You played New Orleans
- 1:30:10Speaker 5: they're the number seven scoring defensive league. You played Texans,
- 1:30:14Speaker 5: they're number eight. That Falcons are number nine. Cleveland is
- 1:30:18Speaker 5: number ten. So that means the.
- 1:30:21Speaker 6: Cleveland go from the number one scoring defense to number
- 1:30:24Speaker 6: ten in one week.
- 1:30:26Speaker 3: Two points. Yeah, think about this.
- 1:30:28Speaker 5: The only top ten defense in terms of scoring that
- 1:30:32Speaker 5: Jacksonville doesn't play is Dallas.
- 1:30:36Speaker 2: Tough schedule, there's always the super Bowl. We're back in
- 1:30:40Speaker 2: a moment.
- 1:30:42Speaker 3: Job off the top rope.
- 1:30:46Speaker 2: Back in the moment. We'll go around the National Football League.
- 1:30:49Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings.
- 1:31:00Speaker 8: Christian, he kind of did all the work there.
- 1:31:02Speaker 10: It's a play that we run, you know, we'd like
- 1:31:04Speaker 10: it out of empty and it's a good, good matchup
- 1:31:06Speaker 10: typically for us with Christian and just reading it top
- 1:31:09Speaker 10: down and know, I gave Evan a look. It was
- 1:31:11Speaker 10: split safety and the safety attached to Evan and then
- 1:31:14Speaker 10: just had our one on one and Christian ran a
- 1:31:15Speaker 10: great route underneath, and honestly just trying to talking to
- 1:31:19Speaker 10: press for the players, kind of trying to at least
- 1:31:21Speaker 10: get something to want to get a completion kind of
- 1:31:23Speaker 10: how we played the whole game, especially with not wanting
- 1:31:25Speaker 10: to hold the ball back there with you know, my
- 1:31:28Speaker 10: knee and not taking any hits and all that stuff.
- 1:31:30Speaker 10: So I just wanted to find a completion and get
- 1:31:31Speaker 10: us going and worst case, let's get some points, let's
- 1:31:34Speaker 10: get a field going with the game is tied at
- 1:31:36Speaker 10: that point. And then Christian went through it. I thought
- 1:31:38Speaker 10: it was going to be, you know, maybe a ten
- 1:31:40Speaker 10: yard game. Knew he had twenty on the angle, but
- 1:31:42Speaker 10: then he took it and took it to the house.
- 1:31:44Speaker 10: So I just and that was a great play by
- 1:31:46Speaker 10: him to finish it and see that opportunity.
- 1:31:48Speaker 2: And go get it quarterback. Of course, Trevor Lawrence apped
- 1:31:51Speaker 2: the game in New Orleans. That was about the game
- 1:31:54Speaker 2: winning touchdown forty four yarder to Christian Kirk where Kirk
- 1:31:58Speaker 2: caught it and ran the distance. Jaguars have not won
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- 1:32:19Speaker 3: Right AJP real quick?
- 1:32:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:32:21Speaker 3: Did Trevor Lawrence send out a tweet? Did you see it?
- 1:32:25Speaker 4: So that's a parody account? That's not it is?
- 1:32:29Speaker 5: It can't be him, right? No, that if it's a
- 1:32:32Speaker 5: parry account he has. That parody account has two unterd
- 1:32:34Speaker 5: eighty something thousand followers.
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: No, that's that's certainly his account. Yes, oh it is,
- 1:32:39Speaker 2: Yes it is.
- 1:32:41Speaker 3: Did you see that?
- 1:32:42Speaker 4: Y'all?
- 1:32:43Speaker 5: Says your opinions, and we'll keep finding ways to win that's.
- 1:32:47Speaker 2: What he says, hashtag analysts.
- 1:32:49Speaker 3: That must have been directed at somebody on Richard Sherman.
- 1:32:53Speaker 4: I think, yeah, what did Richard? I thought when I
- 1:32:56Speaker 4: read it, I'm like, there's no chances. I just figured
- 1:32:58Speaker 4: it was a parody account. But I guess it is dremor.
- 1:33:00Speaker 4: I love it.
- 1:33:01Speaker 6: By the way, what did I never saw what Richard said?
- 1:33:04Speaker 6: I've heard I saw a lot of tweets referring to
- 1:33:06Speaker 6: what he actually say.
- 1:33:07Speaker 3: I think it was I didn't hear it either.
- 1:33:09Speaker 5: I think it was something along the lines of it
- 1:33:10Speaker 5: he's not that impressed and he's not the franchise quarterback or.
- 1:33:16Speaker 3: Something along those lines. I didn't hear it exactly either.
- 1:33:20Speaker 2: He said, quote he was supposed to be a generational talent.
- 1:33:23Speaker 2: I just haven't seen it end quote, Yeah, there you got.
- 1:33:31Speaker 3: I don't know what rich is looking at. But look
- 1:33:34Speaker 3: are the numbers gaudy like I thought they would be.
- 1:33:37Speaker 5: No, But if you go back and look at his
- 1:33:39Speaker 5: numbers over the last seventeen games, if you just project
- 1:33:42Speaker 5: them out like that's an entire season. Remember he had
- 1:33:45Speaker 5: to have the anima to get rid of Urban, so
- 1:33:48Speaker 5: the entire season projected out seven last seventeen games he's having.
- 1:33:53Speaker 3: His numbers are pretty impressive.
- 1:33:56Speaker 6: So because here's the thing that I think, at let
- 1:34:00Speaker 6: me from my perspective and not bad I'm not bad
- 1:34:02Speaker 6: mouthing anybody. But everyone talks about Justin Herbert, how great
- 1:34:06Speaker 6: a player Justin Herbert is so and I think he's
- 1:34:08Speaker 6: a fabulous quarterback, young quarterback, but he also throws a
- 1:34:12Speaker 6: bunch of bad picks in the fourth quarter.
- 1:34:14Speaker 4: He has you know, he could not finish a.
- 1:34:17Speaker 6: Game in the playoffs where they had a you know,
- 1:34:20Speaker 6: three touchdown lead. I mean, you can go down the list. Now,
- 1:34:25Speaker 6: I'm not saying it's all his fault. I questioned some
- 1:34:28Speaker 6: of his head coaching.
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: The most pressured quarterback he was, it was yesterday, was
- 1:34:33Speaker 3: so pressured.
- 1:34:34Speaker 6: He was pressured. So I'm not saying it's all him.
- 1:34:36Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, what's Trevor's job
- 1:34:39Speaker 6: is to lead this team to victories and do what
- 1:34:41Speaker 6: it takes to win. And I think Trevors, I know
- 1:34:44Speaker 6: he's a franchise quarterback. I know he's going to be
- 1:34:47Speaker 6: one of the best quarterbacks in this league. I know
- 1:34:48Speaker 6: he's going to bring super bowls to the organization. At
- 1:34:52Speaker 6: the end of the day. He finds ways to help
- 1:34:54Speaker 6: this team win, and that's all it matters.
- 1:34:56Speaker 5: I think part of it is standing up and throwing
- 1:34:58Speaker 5: a bubble screen to the outside is doesn't look like
- 1:35:01Speaker 5: it's as pretty as sitting in there and throwing a
- 1:35:04Speaker 5: rifle shot down the field for thirty five yards.
- 1:35:06Speaker 3: That's I think that's where some of it comes from.
- 1:35:08Speaker 4: I really do this is that the offense he has.
- 1:35:11Speaker 3: I know, but I'm just telling you where the perception
- 1:35:13Speaker 3: comes from.
- 1:35:13Speaker 5: I don't agree with it at all, but I did
- 1:35:16Speaker 5: think his numbers would be a little gaudier than what
- 1:35:19Speaker 5: they are right now, and.
- 1:35:19Speaker 3: I think that's they will get going. I'm a big believer.
- 1:35:23Speaker 5: I think this this offense is only scratching the surface
- 1:35:25Speaker 5: pet everything.
- 1:35:26Speaker 4: You know, everything draft to day, Herbert Lawrence on the board.
- 1:35:32Speaker 4: Who you're taking.
- 1:35:34Speaker 5: It's tough for me because I still think Herbert is
- 1:35:37Speaker 5: special and I probably Trevor.
- 1:35:43Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm taking Trevor throw to it into the equation.
- 1:35:46Speaker 4: I'm still taking Trevor me too.
- 1:35:49Speaker 3: To It looked ordinary last night.
- 1:35:51Speaker 6: First time I've watched him play, and I'm like the
- 1:35:56Speaker 6: stat jumped out of me about the Dolphins.
- 1:35:58Speaker 4: I think last night. They were going into the game.
- 1:36:00Speaker 6: They were five and twenty the combined record of the
- 1:36:04Speaker 6: teams they have beaten.
- 1:36:05Speaker 4: Yeah, five and twenty six.
- 1:36:07Speaker 3: Yeah, beat up as a bad.
- 1:36:09Speaker 2: Teams certainly did. Monday night football, Brock Perty, Nick Posa
- 1:36:13Speaker 2: and the San Francisco forty nine ers at five and
- 1:36:15Speaker 2: one head the US Bank Stadium to fake curse show
- 1:36:23Speaker 2: chop chomp.
- 1:36:26Speaker 5: Oh, No, too much work, too many games over the weekend.
- 1:36:30Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, Danil Hunter and the two and four Vikings.
- 1:36:34Speaker 2: Who you got doesn't matter anymore, No, it doesn't.
- 1:36:37Speaker 5: Matter any You fumbled, You fumbled the ball out of
- 1:36:41Speaker 5: the back of the end zone.
- 1:36:42Speaker 3: You're Desmond Ridder.
- 1:36:44Speaker 4: No, he stepped out of the back of the end zone.
- 1:36:46Speaker 3: He's at cold My god, kay G. I think it's
- 1:36:53Speaker 3: gonna be closer than people think tonight.
- 1:36:56Speaker 4: I know. I think the Niners blow them out.
- 1:36:58Speaker 3: Rock Purty. It is a big game for Brock Pirdy
- 1:37:01Speaker 3: proven game. He was bad last week. I know you
- 1:37:06Speaker 3: you're family, friend and all, but he wasn't good last week.
- 1:37:10Speaker 6: He has you know, he has exactly one loss in
- 1:37:12Speaker 6: his history in the regular season.
- 1:37:14Speaker 3: Quarterback wins is not a stat.
- 1:37:16Speaker 2: Tony Oh boy, let's close on that. That's Tony Vasselli
- 1:37:20Speaker 2: beat Brisco. I'm JP Shadwick. Thanks to our entire crew,
- 1:37:23Speaker 2: and thanks to you for listening and watching it. Jaguars
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