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SEASON 2 DA CREW PODCAST_ EPISODE _168_ HOST BLAQUE DIAMOND · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh Persinger Sidney, Ah, things an't what thing used to be?
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  Speaker 2: Where did all the.
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  Speaker 1: Blue Sky's boys so way bloats from the North and
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  Speaker 1: somethings who person her sis? Persinger Syney, Oh things an't what.
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  Speaker 3: Basic Black, I've the Dark Doll Loue podcast show with
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  Speaker 3: your host Black Diamond.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, hey, everybody, this is Black Diamond from the Crew
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  Speaker 4: Network and you're listening to Basic Black After Dark podcasts.
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  Speaker 4: This is the show that gives you what you want
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  Speaker 4: and meets you where you are. My guest Tonight has
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  Speaker 4: combined his years in poetry, short stories, and weekly sports
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  Speaker 4: writing with his time venturing into captivating fiction. With his
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  Speaker 4: debut novel Family Ties Thicker than Blood, he is changing
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  Speaker 4: the game. Please welcome B. G. Howard to Basic Black
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  Speaker 4: After Dark.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, missus Diamond, how are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm fine? How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I started it out above ground. That's always a good start.
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  Speaker 4: I like that. I never heard that before. But thank
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  Speaker 4: you for being my guest Tonight. I appreciate it. No,
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  Speaker 4: thank you for having me so question, but you start
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  Speaker 4: reading up the game. Did you ever think you would
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  Speaker 4: go from writing poetry and short stories to writing a
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  Speaker 4: sports column?
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  Speaker 2: No, I had no idea. I had no clue that
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  Speaker 2: the love for writing the transition. I just enjoyed writing.
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  Speaker 4: So what difference is it with the part of sports. Now,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not a sports person, not unless it's a New
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  Speaker 4: York team. That's right, New York team. I'm not a
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  Speaker 4: sports person unless it's a New York team. But to
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  Speaker 4: go from writing about players and even the fans and
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  Speaker 4: maybe the salary and freezes and all that other stuff
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  Speaker 4: to writing stories, how how different was that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's it all happened. It's kind of hard to Well,
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  Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is my life took a
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  Speaker 2: different direction. I I used to be self employed, and
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  Speaker 2: I had a couple couple of couple of businesses, and
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  Speaker 2: I had an accident. Long story short, I had an
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  Speaker 2: accident and that forever change the direction the nature of
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  Speaker 2: my life. So I went from being self employed the
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  Speaker 2: owner of two businesses, and I went to sleep for
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  Speaker 2: seven months to wake up discovered that I was on
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  Speaker 2: a fixed income five million. And yeah, it changes your life,
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  Speaker 2: change changes your perspective on life.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, as if you can remember, do you remember the
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  Speaker 4: first story that you wrote as a in a sports column?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I used to. I actually started in high school
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  Speaker 2: many many years ago, and uh, the editor of the
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  Speaker 2: local newspaper and and asked me because there was there
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  Speaker 2: was no columnists, no no sports columnists working for the
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  Speaker 2: paper at that time. So they asked me to work
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  Speaker 2: for the for the for the newspaper as a sports
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  Speaker 2: columnist because I was actively involved in sports and you know,
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  Speaker 2: bye bye. By way of that, I was always like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I having a picture in the paper for
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  Speaker 2: this even or that event. And so they one day
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  Speaker 2: I actually went there to take photos for some I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know what what it was, but I went
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  Speaker 2: there to take photos for the paper. And while they're
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  Speaker 2: the son of the then owner. He's passed away now,
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  Speaker 2: but the son of the late owner said that he
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  Speaker 2: wanted to speak to me about possibly writing working for
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  Speaker 2: the paper. And I started working there and within a
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  Speaker 2: year or two they had asked me to write a
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  Speaker 2: sports column.
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  Speaker 4: Oh well, well, now I'm going to ask you this question.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna try not to get upset if you say,
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  Speaker 4: if you say something different, what is your favorite sports team?
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  Speaker 4: Keep my fingers cross and closed mindes.
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  Speaker 2: Well in truth, and and very very very little about
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  Speaker 2: my life is going to be It's going to come
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  Speaker 2: across as normal. I used to play basketball, baseball, football,
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  Speaker 2: I ran track. But there's a big difference between making
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  Speaker 2: up your mind to simply retire or quit playing because
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  Speaker 2: of for whatever reason. But my situation was a little
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  Speaker 2: different because yea, I was doing everything in the world
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  Speaker 2: that I could do, everything I normally did throughout the
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  Speaker 2: course of the day, and the way that it happened
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  Speaker 2: to me, I went, I went to sleep one day,
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  Speaker 2: woke up the next day and couldn't remember.
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  Speaker 4: Who I was.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't walk, couldn't talk. So it was like when
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  Speaker 2: you say shell shocked, I was because I didn't even
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  Speaker 2: know who I was. So so so my I called
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  Speaker 2: it a transition.
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  Speaker 4: I can no longer.
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  Speaker 2: I can no longer run anymore. I couldn't even walk,
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  Speaker 2: so running was out. I can't I can't play sports.
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  Speaker 2: I can't do anything like that anymore. So it takes
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  Speaker 2: a total reconstruction, if you will, of your person your personality,
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  Speaker 2: because you literally have to become somebody else.
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  Speaker 4: Well, do you do you watch any sports now? Was
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  Speaker 4: it difficult for you to even watch it?
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  Speaker 2: It's difficult. I don't. I don't even no, I don't,
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  Speaker 2: I don't watch.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, well that's that's fair to say. In your
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  Speaker 4: pursuit of happiness with happiness write in fiction. Is there
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  Speaker 4: any other genre you feel comfortable writing.
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  Speaker 2: Earnestly? I just write. I I mean the first series,
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  Speaker 2: the first the Family Tized series. The first novel was
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  Speaker 2: Family Tized Thicker than Blood. Then I went back and
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  Speaker 2: revised it. So then in two years later, I launched
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  Speaker 2: the revised edition of Family Tized Thicker than Blood. And
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  Speaker 2: then that was in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna get to the next one after that, oh
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  Speaker 4: the oh definitely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The originally launch in and then I realized I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know what I was doing, so I went back and
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  Speaker 2: actually research house read the novel that manifested, the second
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  Speaker 2: one in twenty twenty two. That one was the one
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  Speaker 2: that won me the Distinguished Authors Guild Best Fiction Award.
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  Speaker 2: And then I just launched in March of this year,
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  Speaker 2: March of twenty twenty four, I launched the Family Times
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  Speaker 2: to Blood Covenant, and.
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  Speaker 4: That Okay, we're not gonna talk about that now. We're
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  Speaker 4: gonna we're gonna catch up to that one later because
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  Speaker 4: I have some questions it's about that. But for you
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  Speaker 4: to be able to self teach how to actually write
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  Speaker 4: a book. Have you thought about doing that for others,
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  Speaker 4: showing them how to write it, how to get it together,
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  Speaker 4: some of the things that you you've learned to do.
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  Speaker 2: It's ironic that you as a job well. And truthfully,
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  Speaker 2: I've been working with a marketing coach. I was introduced
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  Speaker 2: to this gentleman. His name is Coach Dunbar but TVD
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  Speaker 2: TVD Coaching and and and I worked with him, had
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  Speaker 2: been working with him for several months. And I would
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  Speaker 2: tell him about, you know, situations where I meet people
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  Speaker 2: in the stores, in the hotels or wherever, and they
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  Speaker 2: always asked me about writing. And so, long story short,
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  Speaker 2: he convinced me to write or construct an author writing program.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm actually in the process. I'm probably about maybe
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  Speaker 2: seventy five percent complete. I was hoping to get it out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm hoping to get it out by in the next month.
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  Speaker 2: But it's it's a it's an author writing program. And
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  Speaker 2: when I went back to research how to write a novel,
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  Speaker 2: you would not believe the difficulty simply because of the
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  Speaker 2: way that they structure this thing. When I went in,
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  Speaker 2: when I did the research, the first thing they tell
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  Speaker 2: you you start out with the end in mind, then
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  Speaker 2: you have to do that. You have to outline the characters,
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  Speaker 2: you detail or the basic plot of the story. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, with all that they're telling you
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  Speaker 2: to do, that's the reason why of the eighty two
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  Speaker 2: percent of the people in this country who want to
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  Speaker 2: write a novel, only about two percent to do it
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  Speaker 2: because they're dissuaded before they even start. All the instructions
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  Speaker 2: tell you that you have to what.
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  Speaker 4: They start say, yeah, yeah, I hate Patrice. I don't
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  Speaker 4: say hate Patrice. One of the things that I found
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  Speaker 4: is that you're You're absolutely right, because for me, it
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  Speaker 4: took me, well, I guess it was a little different,
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  Speaker 4: but then it was the same. It took me five
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  Speaker 4: years to write this current novel because I had to
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  Speaker 4: picking it up, set it up, and going to chapter seven.
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  Speaker 4: But I skipped chapter seven and went to straight to
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  Speaker 4: eight because it was just something I just couldn't put
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  Speaker 4: those pieces together. So it just took me that long,
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  Speaker 4: and it just was it was just it was. It
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  Speaker 4: wasn't a mess. It was just something I just needed
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  Speaker 4: to be careful about doing. So your program that you're
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  Speaker 4: creating it would have helped me a lot, and going
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  Speaker 4: through this process it would have cut maybe cut it
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  Speaker 4: down four years. It wouldn't have taken me so long.
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  Speaker 4: So please get that program together because there's probably others
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  Speaker 4: out there just like me, or even worse than me,
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  Speaker 4: that will need that kind of guidance just to be
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  Speaker 4: able to get their foot in the door, to be
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  Speaker 4: able to say I'm not afraid anymore. I can move forward.
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  Speaker 4: I've gotten this from from BG Howard, and he's showing
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  Speaker 4: me how to do what he's written other books. He's
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  Speaker 4: won awards for it. So please please please finish it up,
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  Speaker 4: and please let me know once it's done, because you
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  Speaker 4: might have me as a student. You once said writing
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  Speaker 4: is simply Amanda. I'm sorry, No.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say that. You know the name of
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  Speaker 2: the program. Ironically enough, it's called just Right. That's what
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  Speaker 2: I skidded. I had this idea that kept plaguing me,
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  Speaker 2: and I literally sat at the commuter one day just
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  Speaker 2: to quiet the noise. I said that the computer opened
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  Speaker 2: the word document and just started time. Had no idea
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  Speaker 2: where was going, and did not plot out the storyline.
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  Speaker 2: I mean just I just started, literally started writing. So
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  Speaker 2: when people ask me how did you write this book,
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  Speaker 2: I say I didn't. I just listened. The characters told
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  Speaker 2: me the story and I just took notice.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's funny about about characters when they're developed.
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  Speaker 4: What do you usually think about when you're developing your characters?
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  Speaker 4: Do you think about the reader?
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  Speaker 2: And see, that's one of the other things. The instructions,
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  Speaker 2: I'll leave it. The instructions, the directions directions for writing
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  Speaker 2: a novel. They tell you that you basically plot out
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  Speaker 2: the story. You have descriptions of the novels, the characters,
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  Speaker 2: the characteristics of the individual in the story, and the
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  Speaker 2: way that it happened. It's like, okay, when you are
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  Speaker 2: with your friends and you're sitting around you at dinner
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  Speaker 2: or or wherever, and you're conversing about something. When you
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  Speaker 2: are relating a story to them, it could be a
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  Speaker 2: story about something that transpired at the mall or you're wherever.
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  Speaker 2: But when you're it's just writing is the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: You're you're relaying a story, and with writing, you just
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  Speaker 2: happen to write it down and you know, keep keep
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  Speaker 2: reckon of it. But it's the same as telling you
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  Speaker 2: having a conversation with people. You just let the storytell
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  Speaker 2: itself and you take notes. That way is not forced.
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  Speaker 2: That's true, it's not forced. It comes across as more
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  Speaker 2: natural and relatable because you know, most of the people
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  Speaker 2: who have read this novel, they come back to me
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  Speaker 2: with the same thing. I felt like I was in
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  Speaker 2: the I felt like I was one of the characters
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  Speaker 2: in the book.
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  Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's nice. That to me. When they can
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  Speaker 4: draw themselves into your book and become one of the characters,
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  Speaker 4: then you know you got solid goal. You once said
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  Speaker 4: that writing is simply a mandatory outlet.
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  Speaker 2: What did you mean by that, Well, because there's so much,
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  Speaker 2: so much going on inside my head, I have to
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  Speaker 2: write it. I have to. I have to. I have
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  Speaker 2: to get the characters outside my head or it would
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  Speaker 2: not be crazy. I mean, well, I shouldn't say that,
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  Speaker 2: but the truth is, well, we all feel that way,
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  Speaker 2: so don't feel bad.
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  Speaker 4: I feel that way too.
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  Speaker 2: Well. Inside joke my psychiatrist I told him. I said, well,
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  Speaker 2: I know I'm crazy. He said, why would you say that?
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  Speaker 2: I said, well, if you're crazy and you're well aware
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  Speaker 2: of it, you're just in touch with yourself. If you're
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  Speaker 2: crazy and you don't know true, if you're crazy, No true,
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  Speaker 2: I said, if you're crazy and you don't know it,
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  Speaker 2: that's what qualifies you as insane. So I just haven't.
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  Speaker 4: It is so true. It's that's crazy that you said that.
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  Speaker 4: You got it, because I'll tell you when you finish,
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  Speaker 4: But it's crazy that you said that. Well, not crazy crazy,
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  Speaker 4: but it's like it's ironic that you said that.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that I also I write philosophy,
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  Speaker 2: and I think I spoke to you your earlier previously.
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  Speaker 2: I called them my twist philosophies because I'm from Southeast Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's one of my twists, hiblie philosophies.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, well there are a lot of them
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  Speaker 2: things like you know, they're they're logical. So life is simple.
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  Speaker 2: People are the ones too complicated.
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  Speaker 4: I never thought about it like that, but I'm starting
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  Speaker 4: to think about a few people and yeah, like cook
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  Speaker 4: simple now if you think about it. I'm just running
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  Speaker 4: through my head like okay, wait a minute, and you're
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  Speaker 4: not around me, but you make it complicated. And you see,
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  Speaker 4: now you're gonna have me start writing down some people's
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  Speaker 4: names and saying to be more here then life won't
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  Speaker 4: be so complicated. See see what you're getting started. But
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  Speaker 4: it's a good thing because now I can start. It's
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  Speaker 4: a new year coming, and I can just start putting
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  Speaker 4: exits across some people's names and just start setting them aside.
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  Speaker 4: Because you've complicated my life for the past. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: gonna mention over the years. But yeah, so now I'm
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  Speaker 4: not gonna say without you, but without that situation, it
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  Speaker 4: won't be so complicated. So thank you for that. Til
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  Speaker 4: you're giving these nuggets to wear and I'm grabbing them,
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  Speaker 4: I'm grabbing them. I'm grabbing them and keep doing it.
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  Speaker 2: That's the things Diamond. Most people don't realize. When you
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  Speaker 2: allow someone to upset you, or to anger you, or
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  Speaker 2: whatever the case might be, you give them control of you.
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  Speaker 2: In short, if I know what to do to make
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  Speaker 2: you happy, you can make you sad, to pick you
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  Speaker 2: up or bring you down. I control your emotions. If
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  Speaker 2: I control your emotions, I can tell everything about you.
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  Speaker 2: And I absolutely refuse to get that much control over me.
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  Speaker 4: This gotta be something. Now, I'm gonna be honest. This
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  Speaker 4: is the first time I've met you. I've read a
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  Speaker 4: little bit about you, and everything, but you're saying things.
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  Speaker 4: It's almost like you're reading my mind, or you been
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  Speaker 4: following me or something. I was just saying, I think
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  Speaker 4: it was on my last show that I'm not angry anymore.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not angry. I'm in a happy place. I may
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  Speaker 4: get upset, but to me, upset and angry it's two
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  Speaker 4: different things. And I've been carrying my best friend around
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  Speaker 4: for so many decades, and that best friend was anger.
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  Speaker 4: And I was sitting in my car listening to something
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  Speaker 4: and I just had my hand on the you know,
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  Speaker 4: when you're driving sometime you're thinking you're cool, and I
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  Speaker 4: have my hands over here by the window, and the
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  Speaker 4: window went down and I just felt this relief. Anger
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  Speaker 4: went right out the window, and I had AHA moment,
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  Speaker 4: and I just came to me and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I was able to acknowledge that I had anger, and
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  Speaker 4: I just let it go. And then I found the
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  Speaker 4: humility and all of that, and that was the h
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  Speaker 4: in the AHA. Then I was able to apologize to
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  Speaker 4: myself for carrying that anger around for such a long time,
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  Speaker 4: and I didn't deserve to carry that around. So I
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  Speaker 4: gave my self permission to have an AHA moment. So
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  Speaker 4: now a HI is my best friend. So anger you
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  Speaker 4: can keep going where you're going, because I think I
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  Speaker 4: open up the window someplace back there, and you weren't
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  Speaker 4: right out the window. So I'm just I'm in a
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  Speaker 4: much happier space. You know, I'm not gonna say I
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  Speaker 4: don't get upset, but anger is just not there, and
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  Speaker 4: that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: You can get upset. But one of the things that
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  Speaker 2: I focus on joy. See people, people, so many people,
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  Speaker 2: They spat your happiness. Happiness, no, No, happiness is a
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  Speaker 2: matter of circumstance. You can wake up happy this morning,
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  Speaker 2: you're on your way to work, and somebody pulls out,
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  Speaker 2: somebody cuts you off in traffic. Your happiness goes out
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  Speaker 2: the window, that same window we're angling. But if you
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  Speaker 2: choose joy, no matter what you do, no matter what
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  Speaker 2: you say, anything short of putting your hands on me
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  Speaker 2: your mind, you can't. I will not give you. I
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  Speaker 2: will not conceive my joy. So joy is a conscious choice.
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  Speaker 2: Happiness is a matter of circumstance.
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  Speaker 4: Well, now this will be a little different. You can
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  Speaker 4: put your hands on me of minds. When I'm at
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  Speaker 4: the joy and doing what I need to do to you,
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  Speaker 4: to make me feel real good. Oh no, no, I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna have you wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. I said, short of short of
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  Speaker 2: putting your hands on your mind.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, that's where we go the line, right, son, we're here,
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  Speaker 4: we're here.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, you you now when you when you made
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  Speaker 2: my personal space, they might not be so nice.
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  Speaker 4: Not what led you to write? What led you to
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  Speaker 4: write a book on family ties?
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, I was, like I said, I had this idea
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  Speaker 2: just kept plaguing me, and I was thinking about all
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  Speaker 2: the people in your life who represent They may not
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  Speaker 2: be biologically connected to.
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  Speaker 5: You, but they represent you know, uh, the the quote
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  Speaker 5: quote unquote symbolic, the symbolic of your brothers and your
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  Speaker 5: sisters or you.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Know, the elderly. The older people might be you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: your mother or your father, or your grandmother or a
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: great uncle or a not But the point that we
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: don't have to be we don't have to be biologically
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  Speaker 2: related to be family. They're people that they're people that
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: have known people, people that have encountered And when you
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: when you when you call these things, when I recall
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: these things, there are situations that that that you know
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: come to mind and it's like he or she behaved
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: in such a manner that would make you believe or
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: make you feel they're closer than a biological brother or sister.
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  Speaker 4: So, you know, some people say that you can you
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: can't pick your your family. Yeah you can. You can.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: You just can't pick your blood relatives. But you can pick.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: You can pick some people because you got, like you said,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: you got some people who you feel a brotherly or
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: sisterly or motherly or fatherly connection with that you may
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: not feel with your blood relatives. I always say that
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: people living in my house is my family, and people
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: that outside of my house it could be cousins and
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: aunts and uncles, those are my relatives, you know. So
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: one of my kids got upset saying, well, my i'm
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: your child and I don't live with you. And I said, well, then,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: as you're not in my household, you my relative. And
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: they got so upset that it took me a while
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: just to calm them down. And I was like, you're
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: my family, just to get it out of the way.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: You're my family. And it's just such a long conversation.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. You know, when you look in in the
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: in the dictionary, there's so many different definitions for family
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: because it means so many different things. I grew up
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: where somebody was my fake aunt, you know, or my
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: play play god mother or something like that. But when
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: it comes down to the legalities of it as a child,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: if you say that this person and I deal with
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: fostercate adoption. If you say that this person is your aunt,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: there your aunt in their eyes, there your aunt. It's
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: because you identified this person. So it just means so
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: many different Yeah, it does. And that's a lot of
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: people are just coming into that. So if if you
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: have and I'm getting off of course a little bit,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: you know what, I'm gonna save that for nov but
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna go into that right now. But yeah,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: it's it's a it's a long it's a long journey
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: with with that. The cover of your book Family Ties
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Thicking in Blood depicts New York City subway because I
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: recognize those tiles mm hmm. I recognized the towns in
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: the train station from the trailer of that book. That's
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: what got me tell the viewers and listeners about the trailer.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Well in actuality, that was the first trailer that I
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: did or had had done produced and the individual who
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: created the trailer. Coincidentally, he was not from excuse me,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: he was not from the United States, but he had
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: visited New York and in conversing with him, he kept
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: referring to how much he enjoyed the subway. And I'm like, okay,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: most people go to New York City to see the
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Empire State Building, or the Statue of Liberty, or you know,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Lord and Taylor, some of the some of the stores
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: are but to ride the subway. But that was his
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: that was his pleasure. That was his enjoyment. And so
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: we we we in one day, we were talking about
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: the city and then it just kind of naturally fell
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: out and that's why we ended up in the subway.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you something. If there's one thing
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: you're going to remember about New York City, he's really,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: really right. It's the New York City subway. When I
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: when I live here and I go back home to
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: New York and I'm on the subway. When I come
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: up out of the subway, people may think I'm crazy,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: but it's a different air and you smell, and it's
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: usually because of the steam that's coming up from below,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: and it just gives you this different sense of for me,
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: a sense of home, Like I just sit there and go,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm home. You know, I could be
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: living in any other state for a long period of time.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: But once I get out of that subway, like you've
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: seen Mary Tyler, ma all throw the hat.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: A man.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Man when I say, yeah, that's what I'm saying. You
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: get out of the subway, and it's a different air.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I don't care if something smells rotten bird whatever, it's
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: a different air because all that steam is coming from below,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: it comes up and it just it sets me to
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: just saying I'm home, even if it's just for a minute,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: I'm home. And it just makes me feel so good
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: to do that. So I make it my business to
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: go this time of the year every year because it's crisp.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: It's the fall, and you get that feeling from the subway.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: So and it's not that hot, so everything is not
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: stinking it dce whatever was down there, it's probably going
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: family times thinker than water gain popularity in recent years.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: What advice do you have for individuals interested in writing
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: and how can they navigate common challenges or misconceptions? O, Well.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: It's pretty much summed up in my author writing program,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: You're just write. I mean, as I was explaining to
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: you before, instead of trying to map out the story
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: or detail the elements of your story, you allow us
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: the freedom to tell itself, the flexibility to converse with you,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: to give you the details. And I mean when I
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: say that, I literally listen to the characters and took notes.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: That's what I did. And you know, I didn't know
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: anything about writing the book. I just wrote. And I
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: think I didn't go back here, like I said, research
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: until after I finished writing it. After I published the
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: first novel in twenty twenty, I went back to research
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: house to write a novel and that was what facilitated
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the revised edition in twenty three two.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: But now I know you have Yeah, I remember you
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: was mentioned in the research and that, And that's important
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: for for writers to research their books because if you're
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: talking just say, you're talking on pregnancy and you don't
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: research it, you can say something about it. And if
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: somebody's going through that same thing that you're talking about
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: and it goes left, you gonna have a problem. So
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: you really, yeah, you can mess them up, and you're
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: gonna mess yourself up too, because you're not gonna be you.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: People won't. It's hard to accept you, and it's hard
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: to validate your work when that happens. So you really
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: should research what you're doing. And again, I guess that's
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: why it took me so long to do it. And
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: then when I tell you, I had to see a
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: psychiatrist to write this current book and I'm steal in
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: therapy for it because I had to make sure I
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: thought about it. I had to make sure that I
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: didn't lose myself because of this character. Now, one of
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: the other books I wrote, I'm surprised I ain't lose
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: my mind off of one of them characters because I
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: wanted to killer in that book. But this is a
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: totally different book, and I have to make sure that
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: everything was right. But for you, I know you have
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: family tized the sequel Blood Covenant. Is there a trilogy
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: or a movie that I'm hearing about?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I'm gonna take that as a yet.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Well, there's the option. I'll leave it at that. There's
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the option because I'm I'm not I'm not, I'm not.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not a really big sequel person. But what happened
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: when I wrote the novel, and it was so funny.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I submitted it to this, to this publisher, and the
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: first thing, the first the first thing out the end
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: of his mouth. Wow, that's a long book. And I said,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: what's wrong and she said, well, the average word count,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: because I measured by work count, she said, the average
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: word count of the fiction novel is eighty two hundred
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: thousand words. I said, okay, she says, yours tapped out
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: at one hundred and seventy four thousand. So it's literally
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: the link of two novels. Ergo the term, I mean
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the point of Family Tized and Family Tized to Blood Covens.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: So I actually had to split the novel in half
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: and it became two books. That's clear the main So
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just wrote, I just wrote. I had
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: no idea where I was going.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: I had to well, well, wherever you going, wherever you
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: thought you weren't going, we're there, and we're there with
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: you Family Ties and family with Blood Covenant. You gotta
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: get that book, because I know you can. It's a secret,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: but I know there's a trilogy, and I know there's
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: a movie coming out behind it.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, I can't tell. I can't tell the ending of
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: the story. But I left it to the point that
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: if I so choose, if I so choose, I could
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: continue the sort. I'll just leave it at that.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I'm already buying my ticket to AMC and
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: I'll be sitting right there, third row to the left.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Get my own popcorn, sneak my stuff in my bag.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: I'm good. I'll be the movies, just watching because I
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: know it's gonna have to be a movie. What personal
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: and professional struggles have you faced that have contributed to
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: your success?
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Whoa that? Whoa that?
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: That?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: That? That could take longer than we have time. I
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: don't like to attribute it. I don't. I don't. I
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: don't like to attribute everything, you know, everything problematic to
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: my accident. But in reality, it did have it did
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: it does continue to have an effect. So my my
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: obvious physical limitations, you know, I struggle with you know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: my balance is always an issue. I have fallen. I've fallen
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: a lot. Uh Sometimes, you know, in certain situations, I
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: develop a stutter. And you know, normally I can have
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: your perfect conversations such as we've been having now, But
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: then there are times that the inside joke is it
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: takes me an hour and a half for about sixty minutes.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: You can laugh at that. It's supposed to be funny,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: but you know it's it is one of my sense
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: of humor. Is why has kept me balanced? You know?
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I I And then the thing is, you know, with
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the physical and the and the mental challenges because I
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: could not was it two thousand and six, I believe
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: two thousand and six. I could not figure out why
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: things didn't make sense, why things didn't add up. I
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: couldn't connect the dots, and like I would wake up
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: one day thinking that it's Monday or Tuesday, and it's
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: already Friday or Saturday, and I would have no idea
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: where those they went. And so I I went to
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I must have put three of my
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: psychiatrists kids through college. But the the the determination was
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know how they found it, but they
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: they determined that at some point I was without at
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: some point during the accident. Had they hadn't seen in
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the accident, I was without oxygen oxygen to my brain
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: for an extended period of time. In fact, I later
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: found out that I actually died a flatline three times
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: and UH. The the resulting condition, it's called uh static incephalopathy,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: big big fancy worked for brain damage. Incephalopathy results as
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: a loss of a loss of By definition, Websters described
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: it as a lack of lots of brain cells due
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: to a lack of oxygen at birth. But when I
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: went to the neurologist, I said, look, man, I'm I'm
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I'm a middle age They got this wrong, and he said, no,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: that's why they tagged it. They tagged it static encephalopathy
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: because it represents, you know, a condition that comes about
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: post birth, after you're born. So that's when I determined,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm sorry, but.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: No, I would say, we I usually take a break
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: right now, but I'm not going to because you're just
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: so interesting to talk to and to hear the things
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: that you've gone through and then where you're going. What
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: I want to ask you is what are you reading?
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Not just what are you writing? What are you reading?
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Again? We go back to, you know, because when it's
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: an accident because of the challenges I tried, I really did.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I like Eric thron Dicky, I like Michael Beazey. There's
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: just just to just to tooth. But I was working on.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I was working on the second novel and trying to
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: read uh, a novel about Eric drome Dicky. And when
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I got to a point where I went back to review,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I had actually infused part of Eric drum Dickie erdrum
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Dickie's novel into mind. And I realized, I can't do that.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: No plagiarism right then get caught.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's there's this this ugly, ugly guy called plagiarism,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: and he's not an author's friend.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: So I see, that's what your editor to come in in.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I realized I couldn't do that because when I couldn't,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I can't read another novel or someone else's work while
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I'm working on the creative process of my own. So
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I have to shy away from reading if if, if, if,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: if I want to pick up another novel of someone
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: else's book, I have to stop working on mine. I can't.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: They call it multitasking.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Well, they say multitasking, how do you go how do
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: you go about creating your characters? Are there certain traits
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: or motivations that guide your development?
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Well, the way that I wrote the novel earnestly, like
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I said, I just the characters told the story and
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: they're like, for example, then there's a guy in the novel.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: His name is there's Willie, There's I can't even think
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: of his name now, God forgive me, but he he's
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: he's he's from the Islands.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: M hm.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: And so there's a gentleman that I know. His name
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: is Nazi and he's from the Islands. And a lot
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: of the characteristics of this particular character are modeled after him.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Some of the characters among to certain people. Some of
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: the characters are a model of a mix of characteristics
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: from two through different individuals. So it's like you infuse
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: the characteristics of real people, or at least I do.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: You infuse the characteristics of real people. It might be
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: one person, that might be multiple people, but that's how
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: you develop the characteristics, and it keeps it real. It
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: was not like this fiction thing, of this factiste that
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: you you pull out of thin air. These are real
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: people who have done you know, had real activities in
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: their lives, and I can relate to those because I've
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: seen them.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: So what are the strengths of a good writer like B. G.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Howard hm hmmah. It might sound peculiar, but the best
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: advice that you can give them. Anybody as an author
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: is yourself. That doesn't mean you're being selfish, but you
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: you listen to that in the inner voice, that that
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: inner you, because you are your best friend, you should be.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: So would that be the same insight that you would
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: provide for those writing a book or improving their writing skills?
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: And definitely, definitely, I mean again, I write poetry, I
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: write philosophy, I write short stories. I write a newspaper column,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: excuse me, a weekly opinion newsaper column. I just write.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: So so it's like a fish can't can't swim if
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: it's not in the order. So if you want to
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: be a good writer.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: Just write Yeah, okay. The Best New Author label from
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: scribbles Worth Reviews in twenty twenty and twenty twenty three
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: DAG Award, which is the Distinguished Author's Guild Award winner,
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: which is you now the twenty twenty four nominee. Is
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: that just the beginning? What's next with this crime fiction author?
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: I got my hands grubbing together because I'm still wishing
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: and hoping and praying for that movie deal that's gonna
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: come out. So I'm gonna keep going like this because
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: when we sit there and saying I spoke with him.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: People don't look like I'm crazy, But I'm saying I
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: spoke with him.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Well, to be very honest with you, I i'm trying
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: right now to I can't say weed out. I'm trying
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: right now to to modify, mold my schedule. So it
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: allowed me more time to write, because I'm not supposed
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: to do this. But the truth of the matter is,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I have, including the one that came up with yesterday morning,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I have twenty four scripted storylines for other novels.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Are these separate novels?
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Are the separate novels? This is not this is not
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: just This is not just me saying, uh, there's a
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I thought of a good name for one. When I
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: say when I say scripted storylines, I mean actual storylines.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Some of them have scenes, complete scenes that are written out.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: So I I I my My my issue is not
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: that I my my issue is not that I can't write.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: It's just that I don't have enough time to write.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: I am so glad that I caught you when I can,
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: because I got a feeling that once you get started,
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: we're not gonna be able to catch up with you.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: So I'm glad I had you here for the interview.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Now you write about family ties, what does family mean
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: to you? Is blood thicker than water?
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Family is everything? And I mean that in every sense
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: of the word. Right now, I mean I've got I've
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: got I've got siblings, and right now, at this time
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: is about a quarter to nine, a quarter two. Right now,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I've got siblings in Georgia, family in South Florida family,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I've got family all over the East Coast, even something
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: in California. But right now, if something happened, something transpired,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: and they needed me, no question, no question.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the way it is now. I hear you
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: said that you have some of the family in Atlanta,
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: and I'm hoping that everybody they're safe along going through
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: South Carolina and North Carolina, I'm hoping and praying that
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: everybody is safe. I know there will have been some
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: lives lost, but my prayers are out to them, to
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: those in their family. So looking ahead, what are your
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  Speaker 4: aspirations for the future?
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  Speaker 2: You mean besides that movie from besides that movie?
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  Speaker 4: Now you're talking to keep talking to keep talking into
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  Speaker 4: existence because I know it's coming, So keep talking into existence.
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  Speaker 4: I'll buy my own ticket. I have my own popcorn,
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  Speaker 4: carry my big bags. I can have my other stash
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  Speaker 4: in near.
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  Speaker 2: I have witnesses. I have witnesses. And I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 2: this openly. When that movie premiere, we want you there. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I want you there.
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  Speaker 4: I will be on it, all right, seriously, I seriously
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  Speaker 4: will be on It.
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  Speaker 2: Is recorded, so is documented, and and I'm saying me
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  Speaker 2: to you when that movie opens, We're gonna We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have you at the premiere and I want you to
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  Speaker 2: be I'm here of that.
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  Speaker 4: Guys, thank you so much. Well you ain't got to
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  Speaker 4: work about that. I'm gonna start getting on the bike
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  Speaker 4: and start exercised, socking, look good walking that red carpet
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  Speaker 4: and everything I say I don't have. Yeah, I'm getting
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  Speaker 4: that queen stinging quick. So yeah, I think I got
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  Speaker 4: raise my hand at Ohia what decides.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, in truth, I I enjoy writing, and
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: right now I'm involved in the development of this author
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  Speaker 2: writing program, and that's taking a lot of time. I
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: have a fourth novel that is probably the mainstream, is
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: probably about ninety percent complete, but I've had to stop that,
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  Speaker 2: hold off on that to complete the author writing program.
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  Speaker 2: My hope is My hope is, honestly, my hope is
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: to have that done by the end of this year,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: and then I can continue my other novel next year.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I haven't finished in time enough
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  Speaker 2: for the Distinguished Office Guild the sixth sixth Awards genially,
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  Speaker 2: but at any rate, I want to get the author
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  Speaker 2: writing program finished and turn my focus. I'm trying to
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: find somebody else to do the marketing, the promotional stuff.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I just want to write. I just want to write.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: You know, if if you leave me alone at my computer,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: and and and and and and I'm in the in
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: the in the in the house for you know eighteen
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: matter of fact, whenever we first met mh we first
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: got married, uh, my wife, when day she comes to me,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: she goes, you can't keep doing this. That's what do
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: you mean. She's you come in here because we get
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: in the morning, we do our morning prayer and devotion.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I get to my when I come to my office.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I get to my office eight nine o'clock in the
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  Speaker 2: morning and I'd be there until twelve one, two o'clock
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  Speaker 2: the next morning. And she said, you can't, you can't
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  Speaker 2: do this, You can't She says, you're gonna burn out,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I can't burn out because there's so much,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: so so much that I got intoe my head. I
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: can't get it all out.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know. And sometimes you just be sitting
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: there going like this exactly, and then the idea comes
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: and you start writing up and down that road. Found
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  Speaker 4: myself back here down in this office plenty times. My
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: kids will say, you're still down here, and I asked
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: my time to two o one. I said, I'm coming
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  Speaker 4: up in a minute. Come up in a minute. And
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: that minute then went by another hour and that went by. Okay,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: so that that happened. It happens the best of us.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: She says to me, She said, you you you sit
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: here in this this this three square feet of space,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: and you never move. You go to get a glass
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: of water or you know, to the restaurant, wat, but
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: you never move. And I said, you know, you don't
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: see me move. In my mind, I have traveled the universe.
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  Speaker 2: I have traveled the universe multiple.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: That's a writer. That's a writer. What would you Okay, no, no,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, that's a writer. What would you immediately start
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: doing if you were if you were starting all over.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: If you had to start all over, what would you
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: immediately start doing?
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: M hm, Honestly, I'd probably start writing about twenty years sooner.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: Oh wow. Is it because you feel as though you
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: got the writing bug? Or is because there's so much
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: more to you and to the ideas and you you
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: needed that time because by now you would be able
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: to sit back and look at all the work that
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: you've done exactly and you can just sit there and mark, yeah, yeah,
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: you're definitely a writer. How can our listeners and viewers
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: connect with you?
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Well, the easiest and simplest way my website author bg
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Howard dot com. You can actually actually so it's actually
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: about more than just the books. Because I I post
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: every Tuesday and Thursday, I post the points to punder
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: this there's a blog page called points to Punder. Those
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: are the original philosophical quotes. So every Tuesday and every Thursday,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I post the points to Punder and on Wednesdays I
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: still write all an opinion column for the newspaper in Georgia.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: There's a blog blog blog page called I'm Sorry Ahead.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: No oh wow.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: There's a blog page called in the Grade Matter, and
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: those are posts of columns that I've written, and then
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: the other the other blog page called points to punder
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: those are the philosophical quotes. So those post it you
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: won't get inundated. If you you can register for the
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: for the for the for the website for notices, and
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I only post three times a week unless there's something
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: going on, like an event like tonight that's on the
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: on the on the website, so you'll get notified, like
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: if I post something, you'll get a notification. But it
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: was not like you're gonna get fifty or sixty a
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: day because I only post, like I said, regularly three
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: times a week unless there's like a book signing or
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: something like that, something going on like a podcast appearance.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Other than that, it's just you have three times a week.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: But his interesting content is about it's about more than
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: just the books. And I'm trying to I'm trying to
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get to the point of like I said,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I just signed out with a marketer yes yesterday. This
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: individual will be handling all my social media content. I'm
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: working with the marketing coach and he's helping me, helping
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: me up, helping me with the development of the author
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: writing program at some.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Point can be busy. It's done. We were just talking
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: about how quick twenty twenty four has gone past. You're
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: already in maybe some part near August September next year
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  Speaker 4: with all of this writing. Thicker than Blood, you know,
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: it's just you're just amazing. You're simply amazing, and I
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: thank you so much for being on this show. Family
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Ties Thicker than Blood explore the different ways people define
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: family in the twenty first century, whether they are the
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: family that ties or the family that binds, be the
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: family that prays, and Joshua twenty four and fifteen, Joshua declares,
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: Join us for a bonus show on Sunday, October sixth,
• 51:53
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• 51:56
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you so much. I'm just
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: marveling at