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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 233 | Jaguars Training Camp Takeaways - First Week of Pads · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to jags Am. It's practice day seven. We're officially
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  Speaker 1: in week two of Jaguars training camp at this point.
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  Speaker 1: No fans in the house today, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get done and they're getting prepped for their
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  Speaker 1: mock game that's gonna take place tomorrow. So we welcome
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  Speaker 1: you into jags Am. Brought to you by Field Daughter Group.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Pat Nanni Stevens, Brian Sexton and John Oser are
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  Speaker 1: with me today. Let's get into our big things. We
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  Speaker 1: got a whole week to recap for you.
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  Speaker 2: They're brought to you by g eh A Government Employees
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  Speaker 2: Health Association.
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  Speaker 1: Big thing number one is the pads went on on Monday,
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  Speaker 1: and Jacobe Myers talked a little bit about his philosophy
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  Speaker 1: for the offense.
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  Speaker 2: When the pads go on, Well.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna just tell to God the aggressive first, and
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  Speaker 3: then if you got to pull it back, it's easy
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  Speaker 3: to go backwards and then try to go out there
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  Speaker 3: fill it out. If you're hitting your mouth and now
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  Speaker 3: you think you about to go hit somebody's work like that,
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  Speaker 3: be aggressive first and let them pull you back.
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  Speaker 1: So pads went on on Monday, and I think day
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  Speaker 1: one fair to say, the offense looked a little bit
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  Speaker 1: better than the defense. Normally it's the opposite. But that's
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  Speaker 1: a good philosophy to have. You never want to go
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  Speaker 1: in halfing it. You want to go full one hundred
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  Speaker 1: percent and then pull back.
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  Speaker 4: If you hack to one hundred percent. You rather deliver
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  Speaker 4: the blow than have the blow delivered to you. And
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  Speaker 4: the first place that I went and I was really
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  Speaker 4: gratified to see that Liam Cohen put the pass rush
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  Speaker 4: party down in front of the fans. Right you had
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  Speaker 4: the offensive line against the defensive line. And that's to me,
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  Speaker 4: that's always the most fun part of training camp. Because
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  Speaker 4: we've talked all through the offseason John about waiting till
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  Speaker 4: the pads come on to be able to evaluate the
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  Speaker 4: big guys.
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  Speaker 5: And of course we had a story.
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  Speaker 4: Immediately with Anton Harrison and how well he has transitioned
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  Speaker 4: from the right side to the left side. And listen,
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  Speaker 4: I think that's permanent. They're not necessarily going to say
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  Speaker 4: that now, but it's contract here for Anton. He's motivated.
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  Speaker 4: He told me walking off the field after the first
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  Speaker 4: day in pads he liked it. He enjoys being back
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  Speaker 4: on the left side, and it's a big move for
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  Speaker 4: the Jacks.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I didn't have a chance to talk to Jacoby
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  Speaker 5: after he spoke, but it sounds like at some point
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  Speaker 5: he got knocked on his butt.
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  Speaker 2: Real quick.
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  Speaker 5: And so absolutely one of the sort of percolating stories
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  Speaker 5: of training campus, which you just talked about Anton Harrison,
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  Speaker 5: it feels like they've been sort of having that move
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  Speaker 5: on the back burner for some period of time with
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  Speaker 5: Van Lannon out. This time, it sounds like they just
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  Speaker 5: kind of said, hey, see how you like it, See
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  Speaker 5: if it's okay, we'll see what it's And now all
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  Speaker 5: of a sudden, you're, what four or five days into it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm with you. I can't guarantee that he's over there
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  Speaker 5: full time, but if he's your best, most talented tackle,
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  Speaker 5: if he likes it there, if it's starting to happen,
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  Speaker 5: so much has happened since this regime has gotten here
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  Speaker 5: organically where it just feels right, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 5: the move with Anton Harrison the left, somehow it feels
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  Speaker 5: like it's happened organically, and maybe that sticks.
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  Speaker 4: One other guy that stood out Kai and I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: you saw him too, and it's a story because last
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  Speaker 4: year at this time he wasn't on the field Eric Armstead.
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  Speaker 5: Really that first day of pass rush party.
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  Speaker 4: He dominated and it was good to see because he's
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  Speaker 4: a twelve year guy and he's going to be important
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  Speaker 4: for them to get pushed in the pocket. So immediately
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  Speaker 4: with the pads coming on, practice got a lot more interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, seeing him healthy is also key as well. Our
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  Speaker 2: second big thing is going to be bounced back.
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  Speaker 1: When we talk about day two of pads, that was
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  Speaker 1: certainly a dominant defensive day, and coach Campanelli said he
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  Speaker 1: likes to be honest with his players more than gassing
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  Speaker 1: him up too much.
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  Speaker 6: I just believe in being honest. And you know, even
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  Speaker 6: what anybody perceives is a great day as an all
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  Speaker 6: sunshine of rainbows. You know, you got to tell the
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  Speaker 6: truth and you got to see around corners and see
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  Speaker 6: what the problems lying ahead are. You know, it might
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  Speaker 6: not get you here, but my college coach, coach Ciano's
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  Speaker 6: told about that all the time. You'll get to you
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  Speaker 6: when he gets you, and you got to be on that.
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  Speaker 6: And I think that's a huge part of coaching. So
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  Speaker 6: never as good as you think it is, never as
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  Speaker 6: bad as you think it is. But you gotta be honest.
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  Speaker 6: It's the only way for anything to get better. If
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  Speaker 6: so way anything approves.
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  Speaker 1: There's a little bit of a dose of reality John
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  Speaker 1: from camp, and he keeps it real, of course. But
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  Speaker 1: day two defense looks amazing. Jarion Jones is out there
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  Speaker 1: flying around Eric Murray. The DB's not uncommon to see
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  Speaker 1: early on in training camp, but kind of good to
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  Speaker 1: see it go back and forth because.
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  Speaker 2: That means, you know, you're not totally one sided.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I laughed because I got a question from somebody
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  Speaker 5: after the was that Tuesday when the defense looks so good,
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  Speaker 5: are you worried about the offense?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 5: I saw the offense for ten games at the end
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  Speaker 5: of last season look like one of the best in
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  Speaker 5: the NFL. I saw it for the first four or
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  Speaker 5: five days of practice looked like one of the best
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  Speaker 5: in the NFL. And so they had one bad day. So, uh,
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  Speaker 5: that's the world we live in, Brian.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I've been talking to a lot of the
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  Speaker 4: ticketing folks that are the prospects who were here before
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  Speaker 4: the day begins, and I always challenged them, Hey, where's
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  Speaker 4: the weak spot on the roster?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 4: You guys, tell me where you see a spot that
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  Speaker 4: you're worried about, and nobody really up with one. I
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  Speaker 4: mean they talk about the running back because Travis is
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  Speaker 4: not here, and the linebackers. But the fact of the
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  Speaker 4: matter is, on any given day, you're going to find
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  Speaker 4: a spot where you're like, whoa, you know what was that?
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  Speaker 4: And as you said back and forth, Kai, we have
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  Speaker 4: seen a bad day for the quarterback turn into a
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  Speaker 4: good day the next day. We've seen things where the
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  Speaker 4: offensive line or the defensive line has rebounded. And that's
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  Speaker 4: what training camp is all about. It's about figuring out
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  Speaker 4: that rhythm and building the consistency. If you ever have
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  Speaker 4: a perfect practice, please let me know. Thirty three years
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  Speaker 4: of doing this, I've never seen one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You also don't want it to be perfect offensively every
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  Speaker 5: day because this is practice, meaning you want to practice
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  Speaker 5: things that maybe you're not as good at. You want
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  Speaker 5: to throw situations at them that they're not ready for.
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  Speaker 5: If if he's going twenty five for twenty five every day,
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  Speaker 5: then you wonder are you testing things to see if
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  Speaker 5: they're going to work. So, look, it was not a
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  Speaker 5: great practice Tuesday. I don't know if you guys remember
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  Speaker 5: or not last year's mock game was Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 5: a mess it and it it was panic at the
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  Speaker 5: gates after that. Oh, they're gonna be awful, They're gonna
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  Speaker 5: be This is a long process and one practice. It's
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  Speaker 5: good for the defense, that's okay. That's okay, and I
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  Speaker 5: think it bears mentioned. At least from my point of view.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't feel like Trevor's making mistakes or there was
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  Speaker 5: a lot of error. It was like some of the
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  Speaker 5: defensive plays were very impressive. So I feel like you
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  Speaker 5: have to give credit where credit is due there. It's
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  Speaker 5: not always a mistake by somebody. Sometimes it's another person
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  Speaker 5: playing really well or Trevor delivering it to the perfect spot.
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  Speaker 5: You can't defend it. So it's a little bit of
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  Speaker 5: both there. Somebody's got to win, kay, you know what happens,
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  Speaker 5: then somebody's gotta some.
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  Speaker 2: One's gotta lose.
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  Speaker 1: Our final big thing today is gonna be the mock game.
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  Speaker 1: We mentioned it last year was very telling. They had
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  Speaker 1: some troubles getting going, penalties issues. So what they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: do is basically have a scrimmage out here at practice,
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  Speaker 1: and fans are invited, so sign up and come out
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  Speaker 1: if you can tomorrow and they set it up like
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  Speaker 1: a game, and they really run it that way.
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  Speaker 2: Timeouts all that and try.
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  Speaker 1: To get the most out of it because obviously these
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  Speaker 1: guys have been in the building for quite some time
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  Speaker 1: working out OTA's offseason program, but there is something to
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  Speaker 1: actually play a game, dealing with it as it comes along,
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  Speaker 1: and seeing how they deal with those situations.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think not every fan follows it the
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  Speaker 5: way we do, Brian. Not every team anymore does something
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  Speaker 5: like this. Sometimes you'll see on the schedule mock game
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  Speaker 5: and then you go out and it's barely recognizable. There's
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  Speaker 5: really no game format to it. Liam does it much
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  Speaker 5: more old school in that sense. Again, part of it
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  Speaker 5: obviously they get a lot out of it, and he
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  Speaker 5: also likes to give the fans something from time to
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  Speaker 5: time when they're out here. So it's another example of
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  Speaker 5: his franchise trying to do things that way.
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  Speaker 4: And they also they prepare for everything right, And you've
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  Speaker 4: got a lot of guys who are here who don't
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  Speaker 4: know how it works on the sidelines. They don't understand
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  Speaker 4: the process that the coach goes through on the sideline,
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  Speaker 4: and he wants them to be up to speed so
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  Speaker 4: that next week in New Orleans. It doesn't appear new
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  Speaker 4: to them. The scenarios they go through, not just on
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  Speaker 4: the field, but on the sidelines are important for them
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  Speaker 4: to be a cohesive team. We both have seen times
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  Speaker 4: where the Jaguars in their history have not looked all
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  Speaker 4: that cohesive on the sidelines.
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  Speaker 5: I've never seen that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this team is not going to have that problem.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to mention as well, you don't read
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  Speaker 1: entirely into what the lineups look like in these practices,
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  Speaker 1: but offensive lines specifically, we've seen Anton move to left tackle,
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  Speaker 1: so this could give us a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: preview what they might be working out on offensive line
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  Speaker 1: and what they want to do there well.
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  Speaker 4: And so you're not gonna have Cole van land and
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  Speaker 4: at least in the preseason. And where does the right
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  Speaker 4: tackle position land? Then? I mean you mentioned Cole and
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  Speaker 4: he feels comfortable on the right Walker Little's had a
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  Speaker 4: pretty good camp on the right side. We've seen Tchuma
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  Speaker 4: Adoga over there on the right side as well. You know,
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  Speaker 4: the offensive line is a really great story because there
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  Speaker 4: are a lot of answers for questions that you have.
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  Speaker 4: If Patrick mccary's back doesn't allow him to play. Here's why.
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  Speaker 4: At milam right, we've seen Jodan Manheim have a really
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  Speaker 4: strong camp with Robert Hainsey as the established starter. He's
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  Speaker 4: pushing there and Walker Little has worked at both guard
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  Speaker 4: spots at various times throughout camp as well.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I keep on getting emails better. They're going to
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  Speaker 5: trade Walker a little, walk a little this wooh that
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  Speaker 5: you need seven or eight good offensive linemen in the
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  Speaker 5: NFL to get through the season.
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  Speaker 4: And he's a versatile guy. He can do a lot
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  Speaker 4: of different things, a lot of starts in this league,
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  Speaker 4: and he's working at a pretty reasonable number about fifteen million.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think we're at a point where we're
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  Speaker 1: trading anybody right now. Just got to figure out what
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  Speaker 1: that starting five is gonna look like come September. But
• 9:38
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, I mean he's I told him yesterday, he's a
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  Speaker 7: beast man going back and forth. You've got you got
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  Speaker 7: camp two times, man, you gotta do you got to
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  Speaker 7: do it as a receiver, in a corner and I
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  Speaker 7: think he's he's he's handled it really well.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 7: I haven't seen it going you know, full time on
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  Speaker 7: both sides, and I think he's doing an excellent job
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  Speaker 7: of it. He's taking the coaching on defense, you know,
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  Speaker 7: the techniques. I mean, it's it's definitely, you know, different
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  Speaker 7: than last year. It's very technical as far as you know,
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  Speaker 7: corner play, and I think he's doing a really good
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  Speaker 7: job of it, and you know, taking in his stride
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  Speaker 7: and of course we all know he's the exceptional athlete
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  Speaker 7: that he is, just you know, his mind, you know,
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  Speaker 7: it impresses me.
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  Speaker 2: It's a veteran cornerback.
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis talking there about Travis Hunter, of course, and
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  Speaker 1: some made mention.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked about this already.
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  Speaker 1: He's put on about ten pounds of muscle, and as
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  Speaker 1: Jordan liked to put it, it is true. He's got
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  Speaker 1: two training camps because he's doing offense and defense. He
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  Speaker 1: never really gets a break, doesn't want one. But it's
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  Speaker 1: been impressive to see. And last Sunday he really showed out.
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  Speaker 1: That was an impressive day for fans and attendance for
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  Speaker 1: us as the media, where he really showed off his
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  Speaker 1: skill set.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny.
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  Speaker 4: It's only knows. It's all he's done. And it's a
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  Speaker 4: question he gets at every news conference that he does.
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  Speaker 4: John And on Friday again the questions come and you
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  Speaker 4: could kind of see him remis a little bit and
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  Speaker 4: he smiled through it. But then he goes out on
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  Speaker 4: Sunday and answered the question with, oh, here's a touchdown,
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  Speaker 4: Oh here's the interception. Oh here's another touchdown. It was
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  Speaker 4: probably his best day as a Jaguar on the practice field.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. And look, I don't know how national, local media
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  Speaker 5: whatever is going to judge him. They'll probably fall into
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  Speaker 5: stats because that's easy thing to do. You saw the
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  Speaker 5: other day the interception, the two long passes. To me,
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  Speaker 5: if he does that enough to make the other team
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  Speaker 5: scared of him, and does it four or five times
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  Speaker 5: with impact, then he has a huge impact on offense.
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  Speaker 5: I would just be surprised if he doesn't matter a lot.
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  Speaker 5: And what's the number? Right Like, if you told me
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  Speaker 5: right now, if you've pointed a player and said he's
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  Speaker 5: going to make a difference in winning two games this year,
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  Speaker 5: I'd say that's guy's a really important player. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 5: I think with Travis, people are going to look and say, oh, well,
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  Speaker 5: he only won you two games because there's such there's
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  Speaker 5: this high bar and he's under such scrutiny. I think
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  Speaker 5: he's going to matter a lot this year, and everything
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  Speaker 5: here inside the building is they think he is going
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  Speaker 5: to have a major impact both sides of the ball.
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  Speaker 4: Felt that way on Stide. I felt like he was
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  Speaker 4: Superman that day. He could do anything he wanted.
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  Speaker 1: The defensive back group is an interesting one. We've talked
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  Speaker 1: about it a little bit, but there's so much competition there.
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  Speaker 1: Caleb Bransaw, who we hadn't seen all of last year
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  Speaker 1: because he got hurt in training camp, has also looked impressive.
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  Speaker 1: And then specifically Jarre and Jones last Tuesday had a
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  Speaker 1: really good day out there. So the competition in that room,
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  Speaker 1: to me, I couldn't tell you the starters right now.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like the wide receiver room. You talk about
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  Speaker 4: having those guys at the top, and now you had
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  Speaker 4: Travis Hunter back in the secondary. You've had Antonio Johnson
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  Speaker 4: who had a big pick the other day, and you
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  Speaker 4: mentioned Jarian and Jordan Lewis is back and now you
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  Speaker 4: have Travis Hunter back into the mix. He makes two
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  Speaker 4: rooms better. That group in particular has had a really
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  Speaker 4: strong start to camp.
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  Speaker 5: And I think the guy that, it seems from the questions,
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  Speaker 5: I get that people have sort of forgotten somehow that
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  Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis plays with his team because he was out
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  Speaker 5: late last year in a couple of ins. He's still
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  Speaker 5: the guy that they look at as the glue back
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  Speaker 5: there who gets everybody in the right position. It's not
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  Speaker 5: like the other guys are running around their heads cut off,
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  Speaker 5: but he is the veteran. Him being back healthy should
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  Speaker 5: negate some of the errors that happened late last season.
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  Speaker 4: The name that we haven't said yet is the guy
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  Speaker 4: they paid in the off season, mon Terrek Brown.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, so they've got a lot of again answers
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  Speaker 4: to potential questions in the secondary.
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  Speaker 5: And the thought is their secondary out of all the
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  Speaker 5: position groups that may be where they're significantly and noticeably
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  Speaker 5: better early.
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  Speaker 1: One position group I wanted to mention because we haven't
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  Speaker 1: talked a ton about it linebackers. Obviously, Devin Lloyd leaving
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  Speaker 1: in the offseason still got Foya Luik out there, but
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  Speaker 1: Branson Combs has kind of showed out a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: John who have you seen in that group that's impressed
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  Speaker 1: you a little bit through the first month.
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  Speaker 2: A week, I should.
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  Speaker 5: Say, well, Foyer is always impressed. I mean, I got
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  Speaker 5: a question from somebody this week. Do you think they
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  Speaker 5: would try to get Foyle off the field in certain spots?
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  Speaker 5: And I said, well, they might try, but it's hard
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  Speaker 5: because he's so smart. Every time you try to get
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  Speaker 5: him off the field. For Rest, you want him on
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  Speaker 5: the field because he's the guy who keeps everything in order.
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  Speaker 5: I think Branson Combs may be the guy that if
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  Speaker 5: you're not really paying close attention, you don't grasp how
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  Speaker 5: good he is in coverage. There's a lot of angst
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  Speaker 5: because you're without Devin Lloyd and Devin Lowy is a
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  Speaker 5: great interception guy. They get better in coverage with Branson
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  Speaker 5: Combs on the field compared to last year. And I
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  Speaker 5: think Ryan you may see heavy passing situation, Branson Combs,
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  Speaker 5: heavy running situation. Ventro Meller well.
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  Speaker 4: And I think you'll see a combination of the two
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: and you could into the future have those two guys
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: as the anchor inside because Foye is not going to
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: play forever. I'll give you a name of a guy
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: and that's Rashan McLeod, who we didn't see last year.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: Was a draft pick out of Auburn, and you haven't
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: seen a ton of him, but when he's on the field,
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: his athleticism, his size, he's in the guard deck role, right,
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's the position that he's going to play
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: as Jayala mcconne as a pass rusher, strong guy. Didn't
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: see him at all last year, and yet every time
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: he's out there, he wears thirty five. He flashes with
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: his athleticism. So they've got some answers to those questions too.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: We'll talk a.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Little bit about the pass rush when we come back
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: after the break, but we do want to mention that
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: the practice is open to fans tomorrow and it's going
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• 15:57
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  Speaker 2: Please God, welcome back into jags am.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Lots of questions now that training camp has begun. John
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: does his best to answer them with all the wisdom
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and experience.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: And knowledge that's up there in your nugget.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: So Tim Tim from Fort Wayne, Indiana, asks John, based
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: on what you've seen so far, which four lineman would
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: you put on the field to rush the passer on
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: a third in lawn Long. It seems like Josh Henin's allan,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker, Ruca Rowroro and bj Green might be mighty
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: tough to stop. But am I over looking a better combination?
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  Speaker 5: Well? I think as long as Josh and Trayvon are
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: on there looking at some of the other sort of
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: interchangeable I think, and what you'll see. Ideally you would
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: like Eric Armstead to be playing like Eric Armstead and
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: be there in the middle. So I think those three
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: would be the key to MEDJ Green's look very good.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: It's it's been practiced. I don't know that he's automatically
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: your fourth yet. Uh, don't overlook gard Deck in that
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: he's a guy that people don't think a lot about.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: He gives them a lot of versatility and he'll be
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: on the field a lot in passing situations. But Ruke
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: is intriguing. I'm not I'm not going to try to say.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I'll give you a name and I'll get it right
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: this time. Wesley Williams okay from Duke. He I was
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: stayly talking to Jeff Loghman the other day talking about
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: about him.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: And he he's violent.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: You know when the Pats came on, you could see
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: when he was rushing the past or what he brings.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: He's quick, he has some bend to him, you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: where the guys can get low and get around, but
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: he hits and guys go backwards. He's a violent player.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: And I asked Trayvon about him and he goes, oh, yeah,
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: he's got something. So I think the young man from
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Duke is someone that you will also see and we'll
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: see a lot of him in the month of August
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: to get a feel for it.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: And I think it'll be interesting early in the season.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: You sort of wonder if they will have a chance
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: to know out of Williams, Strigau, bj Green the young guys.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Will they have enough in preseason to know for sure
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: or will they still be experimenting a little bit with
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: the third and fourth A third and fourth with a
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: rotation guy early in the season. I think it'll it'll
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: take him a while to find the right guy.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Ryan, and you mentioned some of those hybrid guys, and
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I think this gives a little more credence to when
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: they talk about moving Trayvon into the middle, because we've
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: talked about it for a long time. We don't always
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: see a ton of it, but now with some of those,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: whether it's Gardak, McLeod, Wesley Williams as you mentioned, they
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: have some of that athleticism they can use in different ways.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Gives them the options.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine having Eric Armstead at six foot seven
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: and Trayvon Walker with six', five with long arms, inside
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: putting their hands up and clogging the. Lanes you'll see
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: tip balls which create, interceptions and you know they're gonna
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: be looking for. Them after last year having twenty seven,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: takeaways they're gonna have to create some of, those and
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: that's how you manufacture.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Them let's go To bruce From cameron And Saint Simon's island,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: says trying to get your Opinion john as an expert
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: observer as to how many games into the twenty twenty
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: six season would the fans be able to tell how
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: The jaguar season is going to. Go the league is
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: obviously week to, week but when would the team's weaknesses
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and strengths become?
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Apparent, well nobody ever wants to hear this On september,
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: third but it's usually five or six. Weeks that's when
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: you get a feel For that's WHEN nfl people believe
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: that the ups and downs sort of drift and you
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: can start seeing. Trends so five or six weeks in,
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: now if you're looking great, early that's a good. Sign
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: but if you're not looking great, early think about last
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: year this team after six games would would we look
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: back on that season as being. Memorable if we had
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: taken the first six, games they got, better they. Peaked
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: the great teams are going to look better in the
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: last ten. Games so give it a month and a
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: half before you write new Panicking brian.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: AND i will, Say i'll go To. Thanksgiving how healthy
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: are you With? Thanksgiving? RIGHT i, mean because all the
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: trends that you see in the first six weeks can
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: go off the rails if you're Playing Nick mullens a
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: quarterback Around thanksgiving, time, right if you don't Have Trayvon
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: walker And Josh Heinz allen on the field and you're
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: having to rush Bj green And Wesley. Williams so the
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: health side of, it too is an indicator of the
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: trend towards The thanksgiving day.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Break all, right AND i picked this one just for, you,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Guys michael From Orange. Park for our, Final i'll question
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: three days on the, field then a day, off no,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: pads one practice each, morning forgive, me but when do
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: we really?
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Start John, well this is a common thing from old,
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: people AND i could easily fall into.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: That.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: Look it's not the same as it was fifteen to
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: twenty years. Ago it's not two a day. Practice it's
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: not the. Sun we're not standing out On Bay street
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: with the dust that's not coming back through the. Door
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: so they've, started they're getting into. It but if you're
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: old like, us it's never going to feel as tough
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: as it.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Did i'll use a word That Gerald, ingram the running
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: backs coach THAT i mentioned last, week the longtime jaguar
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: In New York Giants city, said you used to stress
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: guys by putting them in pads twice a day on
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: back to back to back, days practicing in the heat
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: of the afternoon in full, pads which they don't do here.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Anymore he, says the stress has become very, strategic. Right
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: these guys all wear these exo vests and they can
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: tell where their bodies are all throughout, Practice so they're very.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Strategic and when they hit how they stress. Them it's
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: not as if they don't try to make it. Difficult
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: it just doesn't look as difficult as it once.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Was because.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Three o'clock practice and the heat of the afternoon In, Jacksonville,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: florida in full, paths everybody looked like they were.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: Stressed well something that's by. Necessity you have to be,
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: healthy and they've known that for thirty. Years they've worked
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: toward this for thirty, years trying to figure out how
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: to stay healthy going into going into the regular, season
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: not only healthy in terms of not being on the injury,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: report but having your body. Peaking is. Everything, look just
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: because we sit there and say it wasn't like it
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: used to, be that doesn't mean that was. Better it
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: just means different AS i, say.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: None of the old guys who come, back coaches or,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: players SAY i wish it was like it used to.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Be they all, say why couldn't have been like when
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: we were? Playing, sure so that tells you that they've got.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: It the science and the technology obviously is so. Different you,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: know thirty years, on they've got it dialed.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: In sure do say it was.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Here we'll tell you what's coming up the rest of
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: the week for training camp and On jacksam next week
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the second week of training. Camp but games are right
• 23:13
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• 23:15
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• 23:18
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• 23:20
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  Speaker 2: Tickets. Crazy we got games coming up, already, guys they're right.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: There there's one.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Tonight there's one tonight NFL's officially back Preseason hall Of
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: fame game and Jag zamas of course with you. Again
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: we'll be back twice next, week hopefully to talk to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: you a little bit about. Practice But the mock game is,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: tomorrow so that's what we're looking forward. To what do
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: you hope to take out of that or what are
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: you gonna watch during the game, tomorrow BRAND.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: I want to see the running. Game.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Uh we talked a little bit About travis leaving and
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: now you've Got Chris, Rodriguez Bacial, tutons you'll look good this.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: CAMP i want to see the young man From taylor
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: From virginia Who Jeff logaman has obviously, yeah obviously a.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Little bit of a, homer but fair he has. Looked
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: he has looked good.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: And put a big numbers in THE acc last. Year
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: So i'm gonna look at the running game because everything
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: That Liam cohen does is based on getting that running game,
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: going and it's been a major area of focus to
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: be better this. Year and most people Don't john think
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: that's possible Without travis etn but the Jag wars believe it.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: IS i think it will be better because of what
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: they want to do With Chris rodriguez and getting a
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: little more on first, down et, cetera et. Cetera, Uh
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: i'll look at the rookie tight ends the. Man it's
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: a big. Storyline, uh maybe get a chance to see
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: a little wrinkle of how they're gonna use. Them Although
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: i'm not sure they'll show everything in the.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Preseason i'm gonna hone in on the.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: LINES i THINK i want to see what offensive line
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: combos they end up going, with and then also some
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: of the versatility on pass RUSH i think will be
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: interesting if camp shows us a little razzle dazzle of
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: some some of what pat make it. Fun we'll be out,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: here of, course training cam for the next couple of.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Weeks come join us for some of the open, practices
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and we'll be back On Jags dam next week to
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: fill you in