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You stay away from her while you’re here (S4 E12 "A Family Matter”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in, Kiss You, I am all in
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  Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Everybody's Scott Patterson,
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  Speaker 1: I Am all In Podcast one eleven productions, I Heart
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  Speaker 1: Radio and I Am Joined by the Gusts Eat Up.
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  Speaker 1: Half of us are Guts eat up today for big
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  Speaker 1: time interviews. We're not going to tell you who they are,
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  Speaker 1: but but Danielle Romo and Tara Suit here's they are,
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  Speaker 1: and they are ready for a big time interview. It's
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  Speaker 1: certainly they certainly didn't get ready for me. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: not for me today. They're in the office right and
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  Speaker 1: they are interviewing a big couple of celebrities. We're not
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  Speaker 1: going to tell you who they are, but they're very
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  Speaker 1: excited and it should be great. Uh great interviews, Amy Sugarman,
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  Speaker 1: Uh not Gussieu wet hair straight out of the showers.
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  Speaker 1: It's very Santon Gnomes. Yeah, I don't have to do
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  Speaker 1: the big interview today. Uh, you're with your with your past.
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  Speaker 1: What could be? I'm not big things December, guys, have
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  Speaker 1: you know the I think I think the WB tour
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  Speaker 1: is sold out. Yes, I talked with second You talked
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  Speaker 1: to James and said he said it was sold out
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  Speaker 1: for for the entire day or just he said for
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  Speaker 1: Scotty peas thing. Oh man, it's so that's I love
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  Speaker 1: how he always calls you Scotty p always like we
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  Speaker 1: always call you Scott, but he always So. This is
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  Speaker 1: James who works at the He works at Warner Brothers.
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  Speaker 1: So Scott has known him for like two years. We've
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  Speaker 1: we've he's the greatest guy. He's the best. He was
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  Speaker 1: on the show. If you missed his episode, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: go back. He's the best. Hang. He always calls you
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  Speaker 1: he's the best. He's just so the best. And he's
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  Speaker 1: about to get married and the whole thing. And I
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  Speaker 1: think it's really great. He's just his life is just
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  Speaker 1: just working out beautifully and it's it's wonderful to see. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so in person is sold out, but people can still
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  Speaker 1: want one person sold out, but you can still get
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  Speaker 1: the stream at moment dot co Backslash. I am all
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  Speaker 1: in guys. They're selling like hotcakes and and and don't
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  Speaker 1: miss out because we're doing a whole kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: There's bonus features and things that I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: doing before even jump up on stage. So that's the
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  Speaker 1: part that not that I'm not stoked about the interview.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome and we have amazing guests. The part that
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  Speaker 1: I'm most excited for is like seeing you going all
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  Speaker 1: around stars Halla. Like it's like I said to Danielle
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  Speaker 1: the it up. I said to Danielle, I'm so sorry,
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  Speaker 1: Like I know it's literally right before the holidays, I'm
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  Speaker 1: so sorry you have to work, and she goes, I'm
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  Speaker 1: actually super excited as the first time watch it too.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that I'm excited about this, I can't even
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  Speaker 1: imagine like everyone else who has seen all the seasons,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I'm thrilled, I'm excited
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  Speaker 1: about it. I'm all pumped up to see the fans.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, my buddy, you know my best friends
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  Speaker 1: in the world besides you, guys are are the guys
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  Speaker 1: I grew up with, right And and there's a there's
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  Speaker 1: a guy called me back home. He goes what he goes,
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  Speaker 1: He's like, what the heck is going on out there?
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  Speaker 1: When did you become bing Crosby? What's like going on?
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  Speaker 1: So she gonna go out there and do jokes and
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  Speaker 1: like sing songs. I said, yeah, kinda. So he was
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  Speaker 1: just he was just yeah, yeah, maybe some Gilmore jokes.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you know, nothing off color. That's that's a that's
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  Speaker 1: an interesting thing because I know you've been back and
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  Speaker 1: you've done some things, but how do you feel like
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  Speaker 1: return to stars Hollow And it will be it's not
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  Speaker 1: like you're just going on the Warner Brothers Law for work.
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  Speaker 1: It will be a return because it will be all
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  Speaker 1: set up, So like, do you feel nostalgic? Do you
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  Speaker 1: feel happy? This is the journey? Part of the journey.
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  Speaker 1: This might be the first stop on the journey of
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  Speaker 1: giving the fans what they want, and this is a
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  Speaker 1: form of it, right, And I think what they want is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, ultimately they want more episodes, but if they
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  Speaker 1: can experience something like this right podcast live on a
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  Speaker 1: stage in stars Hollow, on the steps of the high school,
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  Speaker 1: across from Luke's, across from laurel Ized House, right next
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  Speaker 1: to the gazebo and be there, I just think it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be just such a wish fulfillment, bucket list type
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  Speaker 1: of thing. And that's what a lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: commenting on. Do you you know how you're You're Scotty
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  Speaker 1: Pete like all you Scott but Scott, is Luke like
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  Speaker 1: right there for you though, like that he's like a
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  Speaker 1: part of you. I just want to say one thing, okay,
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  Speaker 1: because I know you. You set me up here, You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna make me cry. Um. The stream is available for
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  Speaker 1: seven days, so if you get the streaming right, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be available for seven right. You don't have
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  Speaker 1: to watch it, right, I don't have to. You're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna miss anything. You can watch it on Christmas. Yeah, okay, alright,
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  Speaker 1: so we're gonna talk about this episode. Let's jump into
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  Speaker 1: this episode and uh um overall, um, you know this
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  Speaker 1: this episode for me, and we're gonna we're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: into it chronologically. But one of the questions I get
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  Speaker 1: most frequently is from the fans and from the press
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  Speaker 1: is are you like your character? People? Do want to
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  Speaker 1: know this end? This depiction of Luke in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Um M, that's me wow. And I I went I
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  Speaker 1: went to pieces watching this not because of you know,
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  Speaker 1: um the performance. It was just and I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to get too too personal, but I mean it's just
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  Speaker 1: so powerful a show. Um. And you know the writing
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  Speaker 1: staff and Amy and Dan, they had this sort of eerequality.
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  Speaker 1: Um that they kind of knew you. They knew your
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  Speaker 1: life somehow, And I don't know how they did it
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  Speaker 1: because we didn't tell them about our lives. But I
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  Speaker 1: know this from every other actor in the show. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: how did they know that? So so this hits very
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  Speaker 1: close to home for me this episode, and especially when
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  Speaker 1: he says, you know, I'm always cleaning up people's messes,
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  Speaker 1: and you know they're bad mouth and me and and
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  Speaker 1: but I you know, I still take care of people
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  Speaker 1: and I still help them, and this kind of a thing. Um,
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  Speaker 1: very powerful episode for me, very very powerful in terms
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  Speaker 1: of Luke and and and it begs so many questions. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but we can get into it when we get into it.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna say, right off the top, very
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  Speaker 1: very powerful episode. And I yea, it's a it's it's
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  Speaker 1: a top episode of the series for sure. And yes,
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  Speaker 1: and I and I want you guys to I want
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  Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts on it because I'm a little
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  Speaker 1: biased because I'm so deeply involved in the episode on
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  Speaker 1: an emotional level, because it was just weird watching it,
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  Speaker 1: like because I don't remember I don't remember I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember Lizza's entrance, I don't remember Lizza's storyline. I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember our relationship. That's what I wanted to ask you.
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  Speaker 1: So do you think you were? And I do know,
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  Speaker 1: so you answer what you want. But do you think
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  Speaker 1: it affected you emotionally because of the brother sister? Because
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  Speaker 1: Liz came in, Yeah, and I lost and I lost
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  Speaker 1: that sister. Yeah, yeah, and then another one and um,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a tough, tough three years. Yeah, and this
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  Speaker 1: episode just sort of brought it all back, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it brought it all back. And you know his speech
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  Speaker 1: about tolstoyn what did he say about family? That was
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful scene. You know, I loved that scene and
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to hear what you said because of their banter.
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  Speaker 1: But it wasn't funny. It was so emotional. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think it was? You know, it was it was
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  Speaker 1: high drama. I mean it was. It was this universal
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  Speaker 1: theme that we keep harping on about these universe themes.
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  Speaker 1: But this is why the show is so unifying for
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  Speaker 1: such a large global audience because these themes. Everybody relates
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  Speaker 1: to this stuff. Everybody you know has some kind of
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  Speaker 1: black sheep in their families or they're the black sheep.
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  Speaker 1: Or you know everybody has God. That is so true, Scott.
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  Speaker 1: When you when Luke says whatever it is to the
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  Speaker 1: effect of everybody's got a messed up family, Man, do
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  Speaker 1: you go that is so true. Everybody's got a story.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're the perfect family? Such thing that is
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  Speaker 1: so true? No, such thing. And I always thought growing
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  Speaker 1: up there was the perfect family, you know. And do
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  Speaker 1: you think that you just were it? Or did you
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  Speaker 1: think you were it? Well it was weird. No, No.
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  Speaker 1: I knew who the perfect family is when I was
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  Speaker 1: growing up, and they lived in another town and they
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  Speaker 1: were blond, we're perfect, love with the s and I
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  Speaker 1: just fantasized about them all the time, wanting to be
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  Speaker 1: a part of that family. And then when I sort
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  Speaker 1: of started digging around, I don't know, I just got
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  Speaker 1: into this thing a bunch of years ago, and I
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  Speaker 1: needed to find, uh, the girl that I was obsessed with.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to connect with her, You're right, I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to connect with her. And I found her sister and
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  Speaker 1: from this family, and she told me all these stories
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  Speaker 1: about the family and all the tragedies and all the breakups,
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  Speaker 1: and they weren't perfect at all. I was stunned. I
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  Speaker 1: was staggered. Staggered. So there's no such thing. It's a myth,
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  Speaker 1: you know. It's what we want, it's what we aspire to.
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  Speaker 1: It's what we all and we get sometimes within our
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  Speaker 1: families and our friends, and that's what we all strive for.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of the show. This show, this
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  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls show, it's all of these people that are
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  Speaker 1: off balanced, trying to connect, trying to connect with each other,
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  Speaker 1: trying to connect with friends, trying to connect with potential lovers.
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  Speaker 1: It's everybody's off balance, and we're all like, it's oh God,
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  Speaker 1: they're almost balanced and it's almost there. And then oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because Paris Paris screwing up. Literally she's really
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  Speaker 1: blowing it. And that's a whole thing. And you've got
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  Speaker 1: this thing that stood out to me. And I hope
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  Speaker 1: Danielle can find the exact quote, because this really is
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  Speaker 1: an episode about family, and I thought it was so
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  Speaker 1: interesting when Rory comes into the house and Laurelai is
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  Speaker 1: getting ready maybe for Friday night dinner, and Rory ends
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  Speaker 1: up there. She comes there and they're going to drive
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  Speaker 1: to Friday night dinner, and there's a joke about Rory
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  Speaker 1: being born. There's like kid joke. Two minutes. That's all
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  Speaker 1: it took, you know there, and I thought, whoa. The
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  Speaker 1: joke sort of jarred me because it was like, they
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  Speaker 1: make such light of this situation that Rory was born
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  Speaker 1: when the mom was sixteen. Daniel might be able to
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  Speaker 1: find the exact line. But then I thought, Wow, they're
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  Speaker 1: not making it shameful. They're making it so okay by
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  Speaker 1: making it something that's just talked about so all all
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  Speaker 1: the time. And I thought that really impacted me because
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  Speaker 1: at first I was like, oh, they make a joke
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  Speaker 1: about how she was, you know, her mom was a teenager.
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  Speaker 1: And and then I'm like, oh, hey, maybe that's why
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  Speaker 1: they are actually so cool and adjusted or whatever the
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  Speaker 1: word is. Yeah, I mean they're best friends, they're they're
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  Speaker 1: they're they're they'll never find And this is me. I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't want to say it's a downside, but
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  Speaker 1: people in this situation find it at times hard to
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  Speaker 1: find significant others, friends, lovers, husbands, whatever, wives. They are
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  Speaker 1: going to be as close to them as their one
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  Speaker 1: parent raising. Right, So it's so true it's a survival mechanism.
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  Speaker 1: But then it sort of like in the adult life,
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  Speaker 1: it becomes a challenge what what an accurate statement? Or
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  Speaker 1: when people marry they're they're not so great dad, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like both people marry somebody that's
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  Speaker 1: just because they're so familiar, they don't know why, and
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  Speaker 1: then they realize, Oh, I married my dad, who isn't
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  Speaker 1: who isn't maybe so great? Yeah, or their mom. But
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just the nature the nature of love, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you yeah, you can be attracted on asking people to
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  Speaker 1: take us back to our childhoods to right the wrongs. Yeah. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's so well said. So what do you think, Like
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  Speaker 1: just really, by the way Paris had said, who's your daddy?
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  Speaker 1: Was that the joke that you know? It's when Rory
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  Speaker 1: comes in, So they're going to Friday night dinner. So
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  Speaker 1: it's later in the episode Rory. It's right after Rory
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  Speaker 1: says like getting away from you is just a blessing
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  Speaker 1: kind of a thing, like I don't have to be
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  Speaker 1: around you, and then she goes into the house and
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  Speaker 1: it's really quick. Loria lies on the stairs. So it's
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  Speaker 1: right after the scene where Paris and Rory kind of
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  Speaker 1: have their conversation. Yeah, and then she heads to the house. Well, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so Amy, take us from the beginning. Ye'll get to it. Daniel,
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  Speaker 1: you can do your synopsis. Yeah, you want to do that,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll go through this because this was such a
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  Speaker 1: quality episode. It was so funny, it was so quick,
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  Speaker 1: it was so impactful. It was the beginning being the
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  Speaker 1: funniest thing I've ever seen. But I'll let Danielle do
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  Speaker 1: your thing first. Ahead, Daniel, Okay, this is season four,
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  Speaker 1: episode twelve, A Family Matter r d February two four.
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  Speaker 1: What an episode for Luke. His sister Liz visits and
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  Speaker 1: they argue about Jess and he accidentally tells her about
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  Speaker 1: Jess's car. Then Jes comes back into town to pick
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  Speaker 1: it up. The secret romance continues for Jason and Lorelie
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  Speaker 1: because Emily continues to despise Jason. Rory finally confronts Paris
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  Speaker 1: about her affair with Professor Fleming, which leads to Paris
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  Speaker 1: dumping Jamie over the phone. So wait, did you guys
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  Speaker 1: notice Milo's name in the credits? So what did you think?
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  Speaker 1: When I saw Milo's name? I was like, oh, justice
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  Speaker 1: somewhere here somewhere in this episode. So Scott, my question,
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  Speaker 1: I actually wish that Milo's name wasn't in the credits
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  Speaker 1: because it would have been so amazing for the audience
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  Speaker 1: to not know he was coming. Yeah, but you have
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  Speaker 1: to go all the actors have to be credited. And
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  Speaker 1: when was the air date of this, Daniel? It was
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  Speaker 1: February four, so you know what that is. Back then,
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  Speaker 1: sweeps were such a big deal, so they obviously knew
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  Speaker 1: exactly what they were doing, and that they bring Milo
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  Speaker 1: back or the February episode, all all of these, all
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  Speaker 1: of these threads just coming back. Wait, what do you
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  Speaker 1: mean by sweeps or months? Yeah, it could be the
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  Speaker 1: whole month of February. So basically what happens is and
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't happen as much anymore. And I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be a no at all, but I'll just tell you.
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  Speaker 1: The advertisers pay attention to the ratings in February, November,
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  Speaker 1: in May. The most so shows and this was especially
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  Speaker 1: true back then, would put like it would be like
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  Speaker 1: a very special e er, you know, like they put
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  Speaker 1: all the special all the so much money into those
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: episodes and all the big stars because the ratings would
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  Speaker 1: go up, which would then bring in money for the
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  Speaker 1: more advertisers. And more money. So you think that they
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  Speaker 1: brought Milo back for this episode because it would be
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  Speaker 1: a higher rating. Correct, they brought him back. They knew
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  Speaker 1: they were doing it, but they intentionally make sure that
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  Speaker 1: those air in February. The storyline they wanted the storyline,
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  Speaker 1: and they they they wanted, you know, they wanted to
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  Speaker 1: give Rory some more red meat, right, if you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: pay a lot of money and do like a big stunt,
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  Speaker 1: like did you notice the town looked more beautiful in
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  Speaker 1: this episode, more lit, more gorgeous because they have a
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  Speaker 1: bigger budget on these episodes, So it's like the town
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  Speaker 1: really stood out to me. The lights. There was even
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  Speaker 1: lights on the trees at the Gilmore's and then you
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  Speaker 1: go into stars Hollow and you're like the entire town
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  Speaker 1: is lit up and more past Christmas. So it was
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  Speaker 1: because it's they have more money and the color clothing
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  Speaker 1: I guess would matter too, right, like brighter clothes, like
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  Speaker 1: the pinks. Just everything has got They've just got a
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  Speaker 1: bigger budget for these episodes. So like, if you're ever
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  Speaker 1: going to do like a big stunt, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: like on I don't know, a show like e Er,
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  Speaker 1: if there's gonna be a big stunt where there's tons
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  Speaker 1: of money and like you know, George Clooney is in
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  Speaker 1: the river saving the guy's life. It always would happen
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  Speaker 1: in like May, February or November. I know it. It's
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  Speaker 1: changed now because shows were like ten episodes long. But anyway, Scott, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I digress. So we're in the diner. It's packed. The
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  Speaker 1: Kirk Laura light that was so hilarious. Did you die?
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  Speaker 1: Are you? Guys? I was laughing. So it was a
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  Speaker 1: great opening, and that's, you know what, that's how the
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  Speaker 1: show should open, right. I'm not saying it should open,
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  Speaker 1: but why can't it open every episode in Luke stand
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  Speaker 1: That's how the pilot. She's like, and Luke He's like,
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  Speaker 1: I have a girlfriend, guys, I have a girlfriend. That's Kirk,
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  Speaker 1: you said, Luke Kirk. I'm sorry. Luke was so hysterical,
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  Speaker 1: the three of the three of you together doing this stick.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know who was funnier, whether it was
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  Speaker 1: Luke Kirk or Laura Lee. It was just the whole
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  Speaker 1: bit three of them. May I may you what she's like?
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  Speaker 1: That was flirting? I don't know. That whole scene just
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  Speaker 1: set me off on the right path. So okay, So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: then do we go to uh, the dorm room. Is
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  Speaker 1: that where we realize, oh, no, I think they do?
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  Speaker 1: They get on the phone? Yes, they get on the phone,
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  Speaker 1: and then you see Lane still at the dorm room.
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  Speaker 1: And is that where we first see Liz with the
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  Speaker 1: coffee shocks, with the with the blurting out of things, right,
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  Speaker 1: and we see that Luke's talking to somebody and like
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  Speaker 1: who is that? Yeah? I was like, who is that? Danielle?
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  Speaker 1: What did you think? I was like, who is this person?
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: But then obviously you knew it was somebody when Luke
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: sent her upstairs, So I was like trying to put
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the puzzle pieces together. I'm like, who is somebody that
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Luke somehow knows because he's not a sending a random
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: upstairs to his place, Like who is this person? But
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I also knew it wasn't romantic because like the way
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: he interacted with her, So I I didn't put it
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: together until obviously we found out who she was, and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: it was obviously somebody that threw him off his game
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: because he got upset and off camera crashed some coffee pots.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So did you just
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you did not know who it could be. Did your
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: mind wander? It did? But everything was moving so fast
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: during that time that like I didn't have time to
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: digest it until, you know, because then you got the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: next thing and the next thing and next thing. And
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't digest it until it was just Luke and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: her by themselves. And I'm like, oh, like this makes
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the Milo credit in the beginning all makes sense, you know,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: like I started to the puzzle pieces started formed together.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: How Laura, La and Rory go through with the dialogue?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Who's that all? She can't be yes, she can't be
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: a prostitute and she doesn't she doesn't have a biggot,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: she doesn't have a bag big enough to put all
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: the toys in. You know the fact that they go
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: there on this rock and roll hippie chick. I think
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: she's like, it's a it's some rock and roll hippie
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: check right, right, But they go there on that shows
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: if they get away with it, because it's so it's
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: still p g right, it's still yeah, it is nothing.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: And simultaneously we're seeing Jason tailgating Luke, which I was
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: just like, cringe, cringe, cringe. Oh, no, oh no, and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: then that sort of is set up so we really
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: get from the beginning like a great launching pap. I'll
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: tell you that Jason, he's the most likable jerk I've
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: ever seen. It's a great way of putting in. He
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: just you just like him. But he's a jerk. You know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: he's a jerk. He's a jerk underneath it all. But
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: you just can't stop watching him him after I liked
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: him after the the apartment scene, when I was like,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: this guy is just weird, you know what I meant
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: he brings He brings so much drama that the two
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: of them was. I was exhausted watching these two. It's like,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: can you just like like they didn't do anything all
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: morning except like argue a little bit. You know, they clash,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: But you know what, I you know what, maybe why
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: we like him because he's such a good dude. At
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the same time, he's like, we need to tell them,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: and I really like like that. He so wants to
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: be straightforward and honest about this relationship, and it makes
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: me realize how much he likes her. I don't know
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: if that's what wins me back on him, because I'm
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: like a total digger fan. Yeah, but the car and
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the honking and like to get out of my way.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I mean it's like, sure, you know, really, come on,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: but there he is, you just like them. So I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: think I don't want to be redundant Metso I think
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you kind of acknowledge this. I my notes say this
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: episode is already a tent, so like we're barely in it.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: We've kind of just seen the credits and it's already
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: attend I you know what, I agree with you. I
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: was looking. I was watching this episode, not looking to
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: deduct points from ten, but just with Beta Breast can sustain,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: its sustained, and it does. It just goes beyond. I
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: think we know how many well we will will right there.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: And this was directed by Kenny Ortega. Did you guys
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: notice that? So again yes, with the movement and the
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I mean we got to reach out to Kenny again, Danielle,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: will you ask let's start, because we've been going back
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and forth trying to get Kenny on and it's like,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: we gotta, we gotta He's a busy guy, we had
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: him wants we gotta get him. We gotta get him.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: His episodes are always amazing and I think somebody, someone
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: in your crack staff needs to go back and tell
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: me if the Kenny Ortega episodes are always in weeps,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: because I think they are because there's more money, because
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: he's expensive. We now go to the dorm and we're
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: seeing Paris and Lane and they're talking Jamie, which was hilarious.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Ton of references and her. It was so small, but
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: it was so hilarious. I kind of like Lane at
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: the dorm. I don't know why I want her to
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: be a Yale girl and totally be down with her
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: living there. Yeah, what do we think of Paris and
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: how she's treating Jamie Paris? You know, my my Paris,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Poor Jamie. Know what I'm saying. I did say poor Paris, Like,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: oh Paris, Like yeah, he's so vile in this episode.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So fine, you know. It's My one overarching note on
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Harris was especially as the concerns Rory. You when you're
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: dealing with a sociopath and they're sort of doing their
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: their dudo on you, you don't notice it. And now
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: she finally sees it because she's doing it to someone
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: else that she cares about, And isn't that just like life?
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Like now? She finally sees it, because it's hard to
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: see these people sometimes because she's so trusting and she's
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: such a good person. Right now she sees it a
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: really good point, like this is the episode where she
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: sees that she sees it, she finally sees because her
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: her she sucks, Like why is she treat people like that? Yeah?
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Now it's just like it's all of my prayers have
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: been answered. Pearis's antics are usually like amusing for me
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: this one, I was like, it hurt me. Yeah, I agree,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: especially when she turned it back on Rory when she
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: called yes, oh my god, that was so yeah, and
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: then smeared and used Lane that way, chasing the just
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: smeared her reputation like she did. She was just sort
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: of a prop to use to get her out of
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: a situation, and she didn't see people as people. They
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: have no emotion, so she pass have no emotion the
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: way she's treating Jamie when he's been so good to her.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: And also he came into town for this on birthday,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: like when he said it was his birthday, I literally
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: was like this poor. Wasn't that a great reveal? Wasn't
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: like they revealed the last his last line, and it's
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: my birthday, and then and then and then Alexis gets
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: to have that reaction at the end of that Yes, right,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Alexis Rory is the one that's sweet and kind and
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: a nice person. Harris's crap to me. Usually it's just
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: about Paris, you know, like it does impact others, but
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: it's usually about her insecurity or her wanting to be
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the best or all these things where I wouldn't. I
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: never until now would call her mean, even though she
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: did mean things in this episode. I was like, she's me.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: She's intentionally mean, you know what I mean, she knows
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: exactly what she's doing versus before. I feel like she
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: was mean, but her intent wasn't to be mean. But
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: she's in this thing with Asher right who who? Who
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: was referred to as what do they call that? That
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: was a ming diet. But it's like, but I get
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: it if she's got this crush the May December. But
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: but it's so sad what Paris thinks that this could
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: work out. And you know what I'm saying, It's like
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: she's so out of and so insecure, and then she
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: she over she's overcompensating so much because she thinks she's
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: found this special thing and maybe she has there's a
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: very small chance that it could work out, and it
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: could be wonderful for both of them. And this is
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: who powers really wants to be, and this is who
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: she's becoming. And she's been waiting for a sixty year
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: old guy. Even if so, even if that's her soul mate, right,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: pretend to access her soul mate, do it right, Get
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: treat Jamie with kindness, break up with him properly. Yeah,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Like there's it's like, even if just she really made
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: me madst the capacity, she doesn't think, she wants to
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: act like it's not her fault. That's why at the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: end of the day, it is because she If you
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: think about it, like Rory did this with Jess and
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Dean right, like they have a very similar thing, but
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: they handled it differently totally, and so did Jess. That's
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: my thing is remember when Jess was Day, the girl
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: that worked at the cosmetics store. Yeah, he did not
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: like really hook up with Rory until he said I
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: gotta go do something right. Yeah, you're right. Yes, who
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: everybody says is like the town hood them literally does
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: it like a man above board, like and Paris is
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: just h and Jackie. Jackie has a fast fact for
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: us attend of the twelve episodes, Kenny or take it
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: directed work during February and November sweeps me for being
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: right sorry at all. Yeah, we're educating tar on this television.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm kind of glad we're like hashing out
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: this Paris thing, just sort of like in one line
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: because like we've really but listen, we've all dealt with
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: people like this before, right, we have. I know what
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I had Paris actually wasn't this. We also have had
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: all that, like we've all had that love or whatever
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: that makes us do dumb things, you know what I mean.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: But this is just a different level. I don't know,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: it's unforgivable, to be completely honest. Yeah, I agree with you.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. So okay, so we're going out
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: of order a little bit, but we're going literally literally
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a word. Through the Paris storyline.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: In this episode, I was very proud of Rory. It
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: almost was a way to get Rory to really stand
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: up and confront her on how messy this is. Like
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Rory really calls her out, and I thought that was
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: like it actually made me like Rory as I hated Paris.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I'm also curious how this is going to change the
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: relationship even further, you know, like because if I was Rory,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I would be like, I don't want to be friends
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: with this person. It's just going to like literally ruin
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the people around her, like I don't want to be
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: involved in that tornado. Well she's apparently, and the only
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: way to rehabilitate this Paris character at this point is
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: for her to have one or several come to Jesus
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: moments in the future, which I'm sure are coming. I
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: don't know what they are, but there'll be something. There'll
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: be some you know, consciousness of guilt, uh down the road,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: which is did you guys catch when Paris called Rory Mary? Yeah? Yeah,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't notice that it was like a callback to
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Chad Michael Murray. Yeah I noticed. I was like, wow,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: that was wow. Like I want to use so many
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: swear words. That's my problems. The only way to convey
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: how I feel about Paris, and I like Paris, like
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I'm a Paris fan, but in this episode, I literally
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: want to call her so many swear words F A,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: B D. They're all found her daddy. She does a
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: dysfunctional her daddy has been business. She found her daddy.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: So it's so it's so sick, it's so isn't so weird?
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: For like when you say that to me, like, it's
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: just I don't know why it sounds so weird? Also right,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: because it's also who's the daddy? But Scott, at the
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: beginning of this episode, we started talking about family. Obviously,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: it's called family matters, and we're talking about you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: thinking somebody's perfect or the perfect family, or marrying your father. Well,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: she personified with Paris. She's literally that's that's a better
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: version of her dad, who pay attentions to her, who
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: has the accent right, and it's Michael York's right. She
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: just needs therapy, tons of it. Her life coach sucks.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I know, I was gonna say, what happened to a
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: life coach? Not talking about that person, not that guy
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: sucks because she's worse than ever. It's interesting though, because
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: with Paris, like you know, we we've liked her up
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: until we've pretty much liked her up until this episode.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Scott used to hate her. But she's one of those
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: characters where like you come around to her. No matter
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: who you are, you come around to her in some episode.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: And this is an episode where we all are like,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I can't stand her, but I just know it's gonna
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: it's gonna come back around. You know. It's so interesting
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: because a lot of times you just want to get
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: rid of the character. But for her, you're like, but
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: she kind of makes sense in Rory's life, And keep point,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: we don't want to get rid of her, right, we
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: want to know. We want her to get better, like
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: someone yeah, like someone like like want to loyalize, like
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: ex says, You're like, we're good, Well, we'll move on, right.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Paris is one of those people who you're like, she's
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: bothering the crap out of me right now. But it's okay,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: because give it like two more episodes and we'll like
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: her again. Because that's that's such a good point, because
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not like going like, oh, where's you know so
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: and so someone replace her with Lane completely or something
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: you know, or like you think about Lorelei's boyfriends, it's like,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: as much as I like them, all the ones we've
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: had Billie Burke, and you know, you're not asking for
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: them to come back I don't eve him back, right, Listen,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: we we forgive, We forgive Paris all of her sins
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: because she just brings the comedy, right, Yeah, you know,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I mean just bringing the laughs. And you gotta hang
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: onto a character like that. So maybe we play through
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: like we just did with Paris, with the Jason Lora
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Lee storyline. Let's just play it through. We First of all,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know why he was driving like a maniac,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Like that was just like weird because he was doing
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: twenty and Luke was doing twelve, but it was eight
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, first of all, it's cute
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: he took the morning off. It's cute they're buying furniture.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: It's rude that he's on the phone all the time,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: but I get it. He has to work, Like don't
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: we think of sort of him and their whole thing.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: It's chaos, like she likes it. She likes chaos. She
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: likes a guy who's driven, She likes a guy who's
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: smart and can banter and hang with her. He's really
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: hanging with her. Man. He's throwing it back, He's hitting
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: the ball across the net faster than he's getting it.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: And she loves that, you know, she really loves it. Yeah.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I think she likes putting him on his toes too,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: because when they show up to the diner and he's like,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I cannot have coffee there, like, can we go somewhere else?
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: And she's like, all right, you know another place has
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: really good coffee, and she just moves the car like
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: two steps and she like, we're here. You didn't you
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: really want that scene? Though? I was disappointed they didn't
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: go in, come on where the scene. I wonder if
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: they thought about that, Like, obviously this episode is amazing,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: but I wonder if like they were like, oh, that
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: would be a good scene, that would be yeah, yeah,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: but you know, maybe we'll have something better. His apartment
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: has sure grown on me though, you know the scene
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: where he's on the kitchen. I can't have that. Ye sorry,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm back. I'm a yes, back alley basement apartment
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: in the kitchen, the guest bedroom. I'm back on that
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: apartment again because I was like I had a whole
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: thing in my mind like, oh my god, he's on
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the phone. First of all, I like his pea coat.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: He had like a really cute peak coat. And then
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: he had a really cute white sweater. Like they're dressing him.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: There's a lot I like about him. They dressed him cute.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: His apartment. I want to spend more time there. Right,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: it's warm, exactly, and it's very cute. Like I lost
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: a peacoat once, I left it in a hotel cloud.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I lost a leather jacket in Mexico. It's the worst feeling, right,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: You're like, you'll never find another. I left the best
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: pair of shoes in Italy, and I was so mad
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: at myself that leather jacket. So what did you make
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: of Emily? And that scene? Which which one? The one
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: where no the one where she's really talking about, oh Jason,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I hate him for all these reasons and oh my god,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: you dinner. So we're jumping ahead to Frida and we're
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: just playing through. This was probably the best scene in
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the entire It was the funniest scene in the entire
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't remember enjoying a scene more, you know,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: because it's it's very difficult to make Lorelai that uncomfortable
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: and that silent. I mean, it's very difficult to do that,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, and Emily was just having such a good
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: time with that scene. It's ridiculous. It was just I
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: was just I just offended comment. It doesn't get the question.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: This is really for Scott and Danielle the most, because
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: how do you think Emily and Richard will feel when
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: they find out that Laurel and Jason are together. I
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: think that Emily, Emily will use it as as a
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: weapon against yet another weapon against Laurel. I she'll she'll
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: interpret it in a very negative way. Let's just say that.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I think Richard will not interpreted in a negative way.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I think that they'll that creates conflict between Richard and
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Emily and Jason and Laurel, I and Jason and Emily
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: and Richard. And you know, there's all kinds of little
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: subcurrents going on and that um equation. So it'll be
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: interesting to say for sure. I agree. I think I
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: said this before. But Richard, I feel is going to
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: would be so happy that his partner is in his family.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean that? Like because eventually when
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Richard actually retires for good for reals, um you know,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: like knowing that his business and his legacy is still
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: being carried on in his family in some way would
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: make him so happy. So I feel and and also
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I do think like he gets excited, like the new
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: type of person, Like he feels like re energized with
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: with Digger on his team, you know, like doing all
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: the different things. Like he he loves like the different
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: you know, he loves how he is now you know,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: how is the word I'm trying to find, guys. But well,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: he gets to be the boss. Yeah, and he's the senior,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: he's the senior statesman in that relationship, and Jason gets
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: to do all the work and Digger gets the energy,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: like he gives him energy though I feel yeah, and
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: so I feel like with from a richer perspective, he's
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: going to be like, oh okay. And I think Richard
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: feels like it's it's after being burned by the company.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: This really is a coup for him and gives his
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: new business cred and he's once again on top. Yeah,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: so it makes him feel he's somewhat in control and
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: he's like important, he's holding the pieces of his life
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: together through a through a guy who's dating his daughter. Exactly.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Do you think that Lorela should have just sucked it
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: up and told Emily there's no way she could she
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: how could she say anything. Oh, I thought she should have,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Like she she gave her the opportunities, you know what
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I mean before she started hysterically laughing. There was at
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: least like two points prior to that where she could
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: have been like, Okay, mom, I have to tell you something.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I'm into this guy. She could have done it. She
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: was laughing like yeah, but can you imagine Emily taking
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: the laft to even greater heights after Laura I revealed
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: it to make even smaller? So we don't know. So
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: maybe the writers thought that's gonna make Emily appear too
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: cruel and Laura too small, So let's not go there
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: because I kind of wanted to see that too. To
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: too little notes before we get into the real meat
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: here one, what did you think when Rory told Laura
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: La I mean sorry, Laura La, I told Rory you know,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I really like him. He's off center and it's kind
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: of perfect for me, So that was sort of significant. Yeah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: question for you guys, are you concerned that there's food
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: in the house because we're definitely supposed to Rory noticed
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: it and then it comes up again. Well it makes
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it makes sense because the new inn isn't up and running.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: There's no income coming in, right, so they're just budgeting.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: We've got money problems. I think I think they're they're significant.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: She's gonna be okay. Come on, she's got Luke, she's
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: got Now, she's got Jason. You know there's there, there's
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: she's gonna be okay. I didn't. I didn't see that.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I don't really think much of it. It's not a
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: five alarm fire. But it is true to character that
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: the income isn't coming in since the fire. But I
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: don't see it as a significant It stood out to
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: me a lot on the rewatch. So this is this
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: is probably the third just the third time I've seen
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: this episode, and it really I was like, oh, oh,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't take it as like a money thing. I
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: took it as like a oh, she's trying to be
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: more domestic, like she doesn't haven't she's she's she's just
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: running out of money. Yeah, that's yeah, you know, she's
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: she's going to the grocery store and because it's so
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: much cheaper, and the cables off because she doesn't she
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: canceled the channels because she doesn't want to pay that extra.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't worry it. That doesn't bring any
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: sort of fear. I mean, it's it's she's Laura La.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: She'll figure it out. She's gonna figure it out, and
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: she's got that community supporter. She's she's gonna be fine. Okay,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: So before we get to the most most, let's talk
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: briefly about Lane and Mrs Kim and Laura La. When
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: she went into Mrs Kim's and she says, she says,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: she's she's fine, She's at yelled with Ror, so she's
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: so she's just moved out of the house. She's checked
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: out because Mrs Kim said get out. I feel better
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: in that moment, though, because I think that Mrs Kim
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: is trying to stay with her morals, what she believes in.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: But deep down she's like, my daughter is not here,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: and I'm worried about her, Like I don't. It's not
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: like she doesn't care, because especially the way she like
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: when Laura I said it, and she looked up and
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: kind of smile old, you can tell like there was
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: an ease that like, Okay, she's good, she's with Rory,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: she's at Yale, she's safe. And then she went back
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: to helping her customer that's interesting. I interpreted that differently.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: What do you think pain? Just pure pain and pushing
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: the pain down and going back to her customer. I
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know who's right between us. I
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: think it could be interpreted either way, because for me,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I just I think that like she had zero communication
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: with Lane, so just knowing that she's okay, what kind
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: of like totally it could be right. I don't know,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: because for me it was painful. I was like, oh god,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: this is experience. I mean, I felt bad no matter what.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: But I just yeah, I think maybe and then Loreal
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I just walked out like that was it. There wasn't
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: anything else in the conversation. I do find it interesting
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: that lore Lie is always the one to bring up
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Lane first, versus like Mrs Campian like have you heard? Yeah?
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: But that tracks for me definitely pain, and it's like
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: lore Line, no, those that Mrs Kim won't do that.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: So she's gonna put her out of her misery almost
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and be like, hey, f y, I this is where
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Lane is. So it's almost time to really get into it.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: But before we do, I just want to give Kirk
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: ten out of ten dude. He was a bringing it
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: because he brought in that first scene and all the
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: flirting and then I think that continued a bit and
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: then the lull. It's a lull like so anyway, that
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: was good, all right, Scott's so we meet Liz and
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: we have that really amazed cup like really great scene
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: in the apartment. He really kind of get some insight,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: like she she says, oh something about your dad. I
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: think she even called him daddy where she hides her
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: pot and you're always the brother like getting rid of
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: it and drinking your orange juice and the whole thing.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: So what did you think? I mean, you know, what
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: can I say? Um? You know, he's just at the
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: end of his rope with his sister and they obviously
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: are estranged and they haven't seen each other and talked
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: in three years. And you know he's very judgy, very
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: judgmental of her life. Um, you know with all the
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: different boyfriends and uh look, man, uh I live that.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I lived it, and it's it destroys a family, It
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: rips a family apart um. And I would say that's
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: a very uh you know. Uh. The Liz, the Liz
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: in this show is a is a light version that's
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: a very that's a very very light version of how
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: it can go in real life. But um, um m,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I was glad to see Luke fleshed out a little more,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: a little more, he's got a family. I don't know,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I kind of I should probably recuse myself a little bit.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can talk about it, but I don't
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: know if it's a better show with more Luke or less.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: It's like I almost feel I almost feel like, why
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: isn't there more Luke? Ye fan of the show, and
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: as somebody who's completely you know, detach from I agree
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: with you the experience, right, Um, he brings a lot
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: to this show. It's why even though we you know,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: we always talk about the credits, right, for me, it's
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Laura Lie Rory Luke, regardless of what the credits will
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: will be our were that is the show to me,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: lore Lie Rory Luke. But is it as impactful if
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: having you know, multiple storylines happening with Luke and Luke
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: sort of being his sort of dramatic funny self. Um,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: every single episode, does it become too much? It's hard
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: to say, you know, you know, that's that's what I
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: was thinking. I said, is this good as a as
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: a as a snack as you know, once let's go
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: out for dinner, much more than a snack, much more
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: than a snack. I think we could meat potatoes in
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: the vegeta because lucas hard to read, like you can't tell,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: like he's kind of like, you know, sometimes he's crumpy.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Sometimes he's like, you know, he loves Laurel and Rory,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: but he acts like he kind of hides it. So
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: I think it gives him like dimension, Like it's just
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: kind of giving the more storylines with him, the more
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: we're learning about his past, why he is the way
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: he is. So on what I'll say is I really
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: like Liz. I do, and I believed Liz. Like when
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Liz comes in and she's sitting there with you and
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: she's I'm changed, I've got this good boyfriend, I'm selling
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: my jewel rate the Renaissance fare blah blah blah. Here's
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: why I'm disappointed in Liz. Very very obnoxious move to
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: tell Jess that you had the car and where it was.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: But that's but that's typical. That is typical. That is typical.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: It was like she really won me over, and now
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what Liz f you because this
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: guy took in your kid when you couldn't, did all
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: these things to the point of taking the car because
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: it was what was best for him that a parent
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: would do, and she screws. So what do you think? Okay,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: so what do you think Liz has been engaged in
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: her most of her adult life that they're not really
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: bringing to the four here in the show because they
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: probably can't. What do you think this behavior is a result?
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: So why is like is messy? Right? Well, I think
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: she's got like she's an addict. Okay, there you go. Okay,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: there you go. That answers the questions and they can't
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: really deal with that in this show in a real way. Right,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: It's not that good, right, But that's is that what
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: everybody else got because she has that frantic like like
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: personality too, you know, and you can you can never
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: trust an addict. They're always going to lie, they're always
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: going to steal, they're always going to tell you one
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: thing and do something else. And it's just and he
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: was at that point where it's like it's enough. It's
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: going to be more lies, it's gonna be more disappointment,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: it's going to be more pain, and she's here and
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: he knows what kind of guy he is, and he's
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: going to put himself out again in some way. He's
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: going to get disappointed again. He's got renewed. It's getting
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: too real. It's okay, you're it's it's yeah, because it
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: is real. And it's why I was so disappointed that
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: she called Jess to tell where the car is, because
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: it's exactly what you expect that person to do. Yeah,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: they have that moment to like, oh, this will win
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: my kid back when it's like you're not being the
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: mom and Luke was being the parent. You know, Luke
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: is you know, he's heading for a moment where he's
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: going to have to make a decision m hm, whether
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: he's going to continue to have her in his life
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: at all in any capacity. And it's like, you know,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: she's the character where you do come to the decision
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: in the future, you know. And it's a hard lesson
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: to learn, and it's a horrible, hard lesson for everybody
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: listening out there. If you if you're experiencing this in
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: your family and you're frustrated, Um, don't hate yourself for
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: cutting people out. Don't do it to yourself. Don't hate
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: yourself because you survived and because you got away from it.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Because all of the effort that you can expend and
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: place yourself in danger, and the money and the time
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: and the care and um to get away from it
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: can be the answer and it can save your life.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Because some people just don't want to be helped. They
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: don't want to be saved. They want somebody to attempt
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: to do it, because for them, that's a version of
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: love and they want to feel it, but they're never
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: going to change. And to those people in the audience
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: who have successfully gotten their siblings or friends through it
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: and survived it and they've transformed that person, good for you,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: you know, good for you, um, I was. I don't
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: know how you did it, um, but good for you.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: The lucky ones, you know, the lucky one. I think
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: the rare. I think that's more rare. Do you do
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: you think so? I do? I think it's really hard.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I think I think we'll see what happens with Liz
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: if we're taking it to the Gilmore Girls. It's like
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Liz's move was telling like here's your brother, You're you're
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: you're wanting to like bond with him, and then you
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: call your kid, who you have no relationship with and
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: who you basically abandon, and you kiss up to him
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: by telling him where the car is, and create you
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: wreak havoc with that decision. So I guess, then, what
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: do you think of Jess and Luke's interaction. I think
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Luke is just getting to the point where he's done.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: It's like, he's no, he's got Nicole, now, Okay, He's trying, man,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: you know he's he's the feeling pangs of guilt about this,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: and now all these feelings are coming up because you know,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: she shows up and then Jess shows up again. It's like, man,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I don't need this. You know, these people are too
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: old to deal with on this level. And what what
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: is Jess justice nineteen? Now's I would have a little
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: more compassion for for him, but the tough love thing
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: he needs because he's has his behavior. I mean, he
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: learned that behavior from his mother. So Luke is screwed
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: whoever he turns to, because he's going to do the
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: same thing that Liz has always done to him because
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: he just learned it watching his mother. Yeah, and you
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: can't get away from it. You cannot get away from it.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: And that's the sad reality of it. And so I
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: think Luke is is waking up to the fact that
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: he cannot have a life and he will never be
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: happy or whatever his his version of happy is or
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: content or peaceful if these two people are anywhere near
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: his life, and the guilt that he has to struggle
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: with to get to that point because he's done everything
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: he can, and he does still go into father mode
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: because one of his top concerns is Rory, don't go
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: near right. That makes me like want to cry stay
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: away from her. Yes, m hmmm, she made it out.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: She did it, she made it out over it got right? Yeah,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Because then I have a question for everyone because I
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: like totally hear everything you're saying. But then there's also
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: that scene at the at the end where Luke is like,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: you know where the key is, you can stay in
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: my apartment. So what's what's that about that guy? He's
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: that's who he is, Like he just turned back at
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, he still has a heart
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: for him for Liz. Guys, He's not going to turn
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: his back on these people. He cannot do it, even
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: though he knows for his own well being. He should.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: He cannot do it. You know why he's still involved
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: because the big betrayal hasn't come yet. There is there
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: are levels of betrayal. Okay, it hasn't happened to Luke yet,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: and regarding Jess, not even close. There's a lot more
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: runway there for that relationship to happen to take off.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: But if the big betrayal comes, I mean that you
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: just yeah, I gotta turn my back on your kind
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: of thing that hasn't happened yet, not even clothes, that's right. Yeah,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: what do you think of two things? I guess Rory
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: and lore Ly seeing Jess and that sort of situation,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: and then lore Ly and Luke, which to me was
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: the most beautiful scene. I loved that scene of lower
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: lyon Luke and the diner talking about Jess being back.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Uh you guys comment I need to take a knee. Yeah, no, no,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: take take any I mean, I just thought it was
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: all really well done. Laura, Lee and Luke have such
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: a connection and I just thought that scene really, Um,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: do you get this? Do you get the sense that
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: when Jason and Laura are together that they're great together?
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: But it's not what she needs. Do you get the
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: sense that, yeah, that's right, when Luke and morea liar together,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: that's what she needs. Yeah, just deeper. It's so much deeper.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: It's deeper on every level. Oh that's that's a very
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: good point. M hm got because that's the sense I got,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: because it's it's such a such a contrast, and it's
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: right there for you. They're queuing it up for you
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: right there in that episode totally. I think the interesting
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: part about Rory seeing Jess though, is I think she
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: moved on, but us as an audience, we moved on
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: from her. Thinking about Jess, I was just like, oh
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: my god, Like he's back like you. It's like the
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: way her memories are coming back of him, it's ours
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: is too. And I'm like, but she's doing great. She's
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: going to Yale, like she's moved out. Like you just
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: think of her life now and you're like, all those
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: memories are now flooding back. Do you think she's over him?
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: And do you think you're over him? Do you know what?
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think any of us will ever like us
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: as an audience, and Rory will ever get over him.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: It's one of those people in her life. Where she's
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: always going to go back to, doesn't matter if they're
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: in the right place, right time, whatever. It is, Like
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: he's gonna she's gonna love him forever. I love that
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: you bring that up. I'm kind of over him, so
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: I think, sorry, here's I'm not over him because I
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: stumbled on after this episode and I don't know if
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: my phone somehow just knows what I'm thinking. A TikTok
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: from the year in the Live Yes, yeh of the window?
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're Oh gosh, no, we want to
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: tell anymore. Anyone listening just knows, you know. You know,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not over him. She's not over him, He's not
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: over her. Maybe she's the most over him of any
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: of us. It's like that with Dean as well, though
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: I think that there's it's different stages of her life,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: like she's still gonna love Dean for Dean, you know,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: like it's not over, but she doesn't have to screw
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  Speaker 1: up her own life to love these guys. You know
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: how we always ask who's the daddy? You know what
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: I want to add? You know what I want to
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: add to that, who's her soul mate? Oh that's a
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: good one. I think it's I actually think it's Jess
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: think so too. But but but here's the thing. You
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: look at Jess where he is now, and the way
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Luke interacts with him now, and the way Rory just
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: walked away, and she did show some caring a little bit, right,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: but she had to walk away. Her walking away says
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: more about how much she's still attracted to him, because
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: she needed to get away because if she stayed, oh right,
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  Speaker 1: get me away from this, because my life is on
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: a good track. And that you look at Jess where
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: he is now, that's there's still tremendous potential in him, right,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: because he's kind of extraordinary, and he's really smart, and
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: he's really intuitive, and he's a soulful guy. He's just
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: you know, he's just filled with anger and rage from
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: his horrible upbringing. So's he's years away from being a
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: viable sort of partner in life. He's years away, and
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: nobody wants to deal with it at this point. More
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Lea who this guy hurt her kid? Right, her number
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: one biggest part in her life. This guy hurt her kid.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: She goes into Luke's one of the reasons being you
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: can't leave your kid out there. He's it's too cold,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: you got you know what I mean? So like she, oh,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: this's gonna make me cry. At their core, they are parents,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Luke and Lorelei. They are parents, and so at the
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: end of the day, they are both the parents. Luke
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: with his fierce protection of Rory, Oh my god, oh
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I can't. It makes me just well up, and Luke
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: with his you're the parents, and she with all his
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: her like this guy sucks, but I'm going to go
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: be the parent with with with my co parents. But
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: he talked into it. He feels more protective of as
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: well it should if Rory then he ever did if well,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: not ever. But at this point of of Jess, no
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: know for obvious reasons, but he just it just doesn't
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: know how to hand I guess Luke just doesn't know
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: how to deal with Jess. He just it's how do
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: you deal with somebody like, yeah, well that's the questions
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: anyone anyone, right, I mean, how do you deal with that?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I mean the fact that for the first seventeen years
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: nobody can fix that. And yeah, because I think a
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: part of it is it's like, obviously Jess has done
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: some not cool things to Luke. But for the most part,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: it's he hasn't been taught to do otherwise right. He
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: hasn't been He hasn't he hasn't been taught a code,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have a cur he's not his His word
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You're so right because look at what Liz did.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: Liz comes back and she preaches all this stuff to Luke.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: I'm better, I have a nice boyfriend, I'm working, I'm
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: you get the vibe like I'm clean. You get all that,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: even though she doesn't say that. And then she ships
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: on Luke by calling Jess just to earn some brownie
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: points with the kids she screwed over for his whole
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: life to give him the car when I'm like, that
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: was literally the last thing she should have done. So
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: that's the ship. And Luke asked the question, why are
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: you here? So why was she there? Why was she there?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: I actually think she was there for the dumb reunion,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: just too like on the nose with that no you
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: might be right now that you say it again, I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: I forgot. She's cast, Luke. This is what addics do.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: They cast their siblings are the ones that seem to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: care in roles of saviors that they know will never
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: complete the task. Yet they still go back. They still
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: go back, They still go back, keep trying to save
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: keep trying to save me. And they don't understand the
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: impact they and the one if they do understand the
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: the impact they have on people, on their siblings, coming
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: back to them again and again and again, and you know,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: scrambling their brains and ruining their their moments and their lives.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Um and they pull up the savior, which is exactly
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: what she did, dang one thing. And then she goes
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: behind his back like you took the car, which also
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: was like the big revelation even though we knew you
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: took the car, that you outwardly say I took the car.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: You did it for all the right reasons, and another
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: adult parent should have your back. Lorelai would have completely
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: been aligned with you. Right, These people are frightening, and
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Liz and Jess are frightening at this point, especially Liz,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: especially away from me. Just go away, no contact. You're scary.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, look how ungrateful Jess is. I mean, Luke
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: kept the car in his garage, locked away nice and safely.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: And then I give Jess a little more rope because
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: he's a kid. Sure, sure, you have to. You have to.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: He's still a teen, right, he's nineteen, you have to.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Is he nineteen at this point? Yeah, he's probably pushing twenty.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: But I mean, and he's just a freshman. And so
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, and he's a smart kid. He's just
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: a little troubled. That's very he's very true. I mean,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: to have that as a mother, I mean, now you
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: see why Jesse is so screwed up because Liz shut up.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: And that's what that is. My mother is an addict,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: and she's not well, and she's gonna she's gonna fall again.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: She's gonna she's going to Yeah, well, I mean that's
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: what addicts do. They can't help it. You know, it's
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: it's it's an awful, awful, awful disease. It's awful. And also,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: let's not forget last season, we had the whole storyline
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: with his dad, I mean, and his dad just dumped
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: him in California, you know what I mean. Like, so
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: this kid is just is is really just lost. You know,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: he has he has no heart, he has no he
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: wanted to put his heart with Rory. And yeah, but
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: he bailed her. He didn't. He wanted it, but he
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: couldn't write you because he didn't think enough of himself.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Stay goodbye, Remember think enough of himself. He didn't. He
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: it was an act of nobility for him to withdraw
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: and to sabotage subconscious right, it's almost a subconscious act
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: of nobility, you guys. The silent phone call. When he
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: calls her and she says, if this is you, he
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: won't even talk at least, right, at least he had
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: that consciousness that he was going to be a bad
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: influence owner. So he stayed silent. He stayed away. He
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: only came. He came back because he had no place
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: to go. He came back to Luke because he had
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: no place to go. He's looking for a second chance.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: This is like a third chance, by the one third chance.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: It's heavy, it's heavy, right, gosh, I guess we'll switch
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: it to some to end on just trying to get
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: a simple little life together. You know, he's just got
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: his diner and he's you know, the poor guy man. Yeah,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: he's like, I'm going to Nichols, which obviously weren't even
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: on in Coal. I mean, you did go to Nicals,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: but you weren't originally going to Nicals, but you went
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: to Nicoles because you want to give him. You know,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: he won't come sleep there if you're in there. I mean,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: it's all just are taking caretaking, caretaking? Am I the
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: only one that like weirdly wanted Luke to like for
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: the scene for to be like pulling up to Loria
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Lie's house, Like I don't know why I want it,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: it's so bad, Like, no, Scott, you don't think so.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: I wanted him to pull up to their house and
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Lord lies like, come here, you can sleep on the couch.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I think at most maybe maybe Okay,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: on a good day, maybe he drives by the house
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: and glances a little bit. I don't know, but that's
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: that's still a little much, you know. I don't know
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: about that. That's that's who has our favorite lines. That's
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: our favorite lines. And I kept forgetting to tell you
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: guys this, but I do love the line when she's
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: talking about Asher and Paris says like ten times not
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: counting my chickens, count my chick what about you guys?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: My chicken favorite lines? Yeah, um uh, every there was
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: there was again there's like too many to even everything.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: In the scene with Kirk and Lorela, you know, I
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: I think when when Tanna got asked Tana got asked
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: out on the date or Paris says that she's in
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: the bathroom throwing up, and then there's another one because
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take liberties here, you know, because this this
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: episode ripped me apart. Pillar to post, it just ripped
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: me apart. U. Um. The the Rory line when she's
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: referring to uh Asher as the Ming dynasty, what was
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: it made a June romance? And then she's now you're
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: made of Ming Dynasty romances? Six oh no, and Rory
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: another one, don't don't ever tell me about his body? Yeah,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: just don't ever tell talk about his body again? Minds
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: a Luke line and like Luke interna the best and
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: um and Luca's double dipping you dog. That was amazing.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's good. I agree. Yeah. I love
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: the banswer outside of Mrs Kim's when they both both
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Jason and Laura Lee were on the phone with Emily
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: and then she's like, is that the same man that
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: was her ass? Is he harrassing you? That was funny.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I love that banswer. I thought Lauren was great in
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: this episode. The comedic skills just shining through in the
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: pink coat away lines and all the She's just great,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: didn't she? And she just great? So what are we
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: going to give it one to ten? The cars? I
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: was thinking, just as cars gelopes? What is that? Maybe?
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe I also definitely noticed that you, Scott drank the
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: orange juice. You didn't guzzle it and it wasn't a
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: super tall glass, but you definitely drank that orange juice.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean that's the thing that drives me crazy.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: People don't eat and they don't drink when they get something.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: And I do think there was some fake driving, but
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: I think I was thirsty, thirsty, thirsty. I thought Mercedes
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: driving reel, truck driving reel, some of the Jeep driving reel.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Some of the jeep driving so fake. Yeah, there was
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of fake like looking on the road and
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: fake dr I'm like, you don't have to turn your
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: stealing only I've ever in my life even done that.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: What else could we do? Should give it one to
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: ten dukes? Well? So wait, let me ask this question.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: There's one question, what did we think of Jason when
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: he really fought not to go into the diner? Did
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: he Because he did that, he knew he was tailgating you.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: I understand why it's not Shakespeare, But what did we
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: think of the character fighting so hard not to go in?
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Did he go down a couple of notches in your book? Like,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: just just man up and go down the whole time.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: That's kind of right, that's kind of his deal, right?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: How did you say he's a lovable jerk? So you're like,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: when he's a jerk, you're like you're down, and then
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: you're like you're lovable. But it's also it's not like
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: the car is going inside the diner to get the coffee,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, it's like, you know
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: who's tailgating you? You know the car that's tailgating you.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: We missed out, We missed out on an hysterical scene.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: We just get out of the car and go to
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: do a funny scene. Ten dukes for me, ten dukes,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: ten dukes for you to sorr how many dukes? Give
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: it a nine? You're gonna give it nine dukes? And
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: what why is one duke missing? In your opinion? Just
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: I just don't give out you're a nine room us.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: It's a great episode. Does it have something to do
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: with who you're interviewing today and that she can't give attention?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: She's not giving because al right, um, I mean I
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: I gotta say, uh, this is twenty dukes for me.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: This is a home run. I just love this episode.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, even though it ripped me apart, it hit
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: too close to home and did answer the question are
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: you a lot like your character? Well, in this instance,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: the answer is yes, M. But that's what we want. Yeah,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: we want that. That's what we want. There's a good
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: number of people don't really I want you to be anything.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: But look it's fine with me. You know. Yeah, you're
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: gonna you'll you'll see them all. Well, that's gonna be fun.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to that. Um. Yeah, Well this
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: was a nice, light breezy episode, wasn't fashion. They do
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: figure out a way to have funny moments, and you
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: know what, that's why I love it. M. Yeah, this
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: was God. This was just filled with such drama, um
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: and such hilarity. Really wonderful episode. Kenny Artega hats off,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: who wrote the episode. By the way, Oh yeah, good question.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: Let's let's get some fun facts I'm going to Amy. Oh,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Dan Palladino, Danny wrote it. Yeah, so you knew it
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: had to be one of them. Just runs amuck, doesn't it,
• 1:14:50
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• 1:17:35
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• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: you know, and crack Staff reminded me of this, you know.
• 1:17:45
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• 1:17:48
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• 1:17:50
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• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Where does Laura, like, you know, off given me crap
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: when she doesn't tell me about Jason when mm hmmm
• 1:18:00
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• 1:18:05
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• 1:18:08
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