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Evelyn Reeves: Jesus Rescued Me From Leftist, Pro-Choice, Marxist Ideology · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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I left the left in 2021 and I don't mean that I was just a liberal.
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It started out that way but I became a very extreme leftist for a while.
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For those of you wondering how people can become so mentally depraved and evil that they
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would mock the death of a father and a husband, I might be able to shed some light on that
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and it was 100% the media.
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I was raised in a conservative Christian home, my parents are still married, I was homeschooled,
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I had a good childhood and it still got to me because of the media.
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Because of the people I was around and my friends sharing media, because of the media I was
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seeing on TikTok, on Instagram, Twitter, I mean just everywhere it was pelted into my brain
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that these people were Nazis and fascists.
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When I tell you that I had a genuine fear for my life and the only way that I thought
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I could stop it was violence.
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Now I personally was never violent but I would like and repose TikToks of people calling
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for violence because they have convinced an entire generation that that is the only way
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to stop the Nazi fascists.
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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events, defending
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biblical Christianity, no topic off limits.
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And now, here's your host David Fierazzo.
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Friends, family and Christ, thank you for tuning in watching, listening, sharing and praying
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for us.
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If you are a parent or a grandparent, you probably know someone that you can share this
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episode with, very important to understand, you just heard from Evelyn Reeves and very
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important to understand how someone that grew up in a Christian or conservative home can
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flip and be influenced to go down the opposite worldview from the biblical worldview and actually
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understand that someone today can justify murder for a certain cause and we're really
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in a new territory today.
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We're learning a lot since the assassination of Charlie Kirk and what some people believe
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the ends justify the means, right?
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Well I want to bring in our guest today Evelyn Reeves, she's a Christian, wife, mother
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of two grass roots activist, former leftist and human rights advocate.
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She's also the vice president of pro life advocacy network when to talk a lot about that.
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She defends the rights of the unborn of unborn children through educational videos, live stream
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debates that are aimed at spreading social awareness regarding truths around fetal development
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and abortion.
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Now encouraging pro life legislation, yay Evelyn Reeves is an independent voting member
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and can't wait to hear her story, very important and very provocative.
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Evelyn, thanks for your time today, welcome, good to see you.
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Yeah, thank you so much for having me on.
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Okay, so I talked to you before we got on the podcast here.
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I think I must have been following you on somewhere, maybe Instagram and I came across
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that video and I've been writing about the mainstream media, the leftist media, the
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Marxist media, we can activism, it's activism, no longer journalism and you said something
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that really is important because a lot of parents, Christian parents probably don't understand
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how there are so many influences out there that can turn the heart of the worldview of their
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son or daughter and you have that story but thank God you came to Christ or back to Christ.
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Let's start with when you were young growing up, did you go to church?
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Were your parents very committed to church?
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What kind of church and how did that impact you and then tell us about the turn?
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Yeah, I mean, I grew up in a very large conservative Christian family.
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I have nine siblings, five are adopted and five are biological.
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We were amazing at going to church.
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I was involved in youth groups.
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We prayed every single night.
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We went through spiritual warfare together and it brought us really close to each other.
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So growing up, I was very, very Christian.
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I wanted to be a missionary.
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I was what people would describe as a Jesus freak, you know?
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I was on fire for the Lord.
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So yeah, I mean, I was raised in a great conservative Christian family.
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When I turned maybe 13 or 14 is when things kind of started going downhill for me.
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I was exposed to more, I won't say leftist.
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I think it was more liberal progressive Christianity at first
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from some youth groups and some homeschool co-ops that my family would bring me to
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thinking they were safe, thinking that there was nothing wrong with them.
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And just by, you know, the influence of my friends and the social media that they were looking at
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and the media in general, even just mainstream media news,
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hearing things through the grapevine through my friends.
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And when you're that age, you want to fit in and you want to be looked at as a good person,
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a good friend, a nice and kind person.
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And there's also something about rebelling against the authority.
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I think all young children, you know, teenagers specifically really want to do that.
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So it kind of just sparked this idea that I needed to be loving and open of all viewpoints
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and everything. And that made me start looking into liberal and leftist ideologies more.
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And through social media, I started, you know, the algorithms started only feeding me that type
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of information, whether it was clips of Donald Trump saying things that were clipped out of context,
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that didn't actually, you know, they weren't actually what he said.
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Or it was Reddit posts or Twitter posts or TikTok videos of people making arguments with
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nothing to back it up. But you believe it because they say it with conviction because it has
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millions of likes because all other media is being suppressed.
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It eventually just ingrains itself in your mind so much that, you know, you can be raised with
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great values. And that can take over eventually.
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So I think I heard you either talk to talk about or refer to progressive Christianity or what I
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might call liberal Christianity, which is an oxymoron. But unfortunately, a lot of churches have
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gone woke. They've gone left. And I've heard this this term toxic empathy. There are Christians
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who mean well. And they want to empathize with everybody. Like you said, you wanted to love
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everybody and you want to be open, right? When you open yourself up and be loving, you end up,
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if you're a church, you'll end up with a rainbow flag hanging outside your door. Everybody's
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welcome, right? But where does this, where does the conviction come? How can you then preach sin
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and repentance? And you know, we can go down that road. So tell us about you said a youth group.
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So you're at a church, a committed church, solid Christian family, very conservative. And a lot
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of church activity prayer, spiritual warfare. And yet, was there an influence in your youth group
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or your youth pastor that was progressive? Tell us about that angle. Yeah, it wasn't the church
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itself. The church was actually maybe even more conservative than my family was. It was a church
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that was kind of farther away from me. And I only went there because I had met someone at a
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homeschool co-op and they wanted to bring me to their youth group. And so it wasn't the leaders
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of the youth group. But that's kind of almost what contributed to it to, you know, the small
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group of us kids that were in the youth group wanting to, like I said before, rebel almost
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against the authority of the church and the authority of these conservative Christians that we've
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viewed as kind of bad guys wanting to control us. So there's a small group of kids that just are,
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you know, talking about progressive ideologies, talking about how mean other people are and the
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authorities are. And from there, I was invited to a youth retreat where I was, you know, a bunch
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of kids, teenagers locked in a church for three days, four days. I don't know how many days. And,
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you know, it's very Christian and it has a good message. But when you get that many children
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together and arguably not enough adults to, you know, watch over them, there was, I mean, left
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a ideology running rampant in that place. And it was hidden, but that's again the kind of draw to
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it was it was almost like the secret group and club of us rebelling against them. So there is a
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threat of progressive Christianity, but personally, I was never influenced by like authorities and
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a church, like a progressive church at all. It was always the subsets of little kids and teenagers
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in those churches that kind of wanted to rebel and we would get together and, you know, be progressive
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Christians together, I guess. Okay. So let's go back to what you shared in that very, to me,
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very important Instagram post. And I just wanted to read a couple of the comments, friends. And these
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are from, it looks like I see the picture of one person out there. It looks like someone who's older
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but tired to tell, but she said, I love that you had the courage to post this. Thank you for this.
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We truly do not hate the media enough. And another person said, geez, this is my life right now with
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my daughter. If someone is reading this, please pray for me and her. I have to remember this is a
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spiritual battle. She cannot hear me. So there's no use talking anymore and it breaks my heart.
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So Evelyn, you're reaching people. That's why I wanted to have you on. You're reaching young people
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that a lot of us, it couldn't reach or they wouldn't listen to us. So you can say, hey, you know,
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I fell for some of this and it's, it will lead you down a very dangerous path to the point of
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what we're seeing in the streets today and what we saw after the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
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Some, and I'm glad, you know, it's interesting. I'm glad we saw it. The people, it is posting their
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true feelings, but I'm glad we know exactly where they stand spiritually. We are not the same.
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We talk about this all the time, different spirit. There's a holy spirit and there are
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unholy spirits. We might call them demons. So we have to understand the spiritual warfare behind
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this time. That's cultural moment that we're in. Would you please speak a little bit more about that?
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Yeah, I mean, I have gotten so many messages from parents and grandparents and aunts and uncles
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and even concerned siblings saying my son, daughter, whatever is trans and going through this issue
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or has cut me off completely for who I voted for or was one of the people who was celebrating
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Charlie Kirk's assassination. And I actually started a prayer list for all of these people.
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I asked for their name and I just wrote as many as I could down. I think I have 20 plus names on
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the list of people that need prayer because that is the one thing that pulled me out. I could not be
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reached by my family anymore, especially in 2019 and 2020 when I was at my most extreme.
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I could not be reached by logic and reasoning at that point. I am 100 percent convinced that
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the only thing that was able to pull me out was obviously Christ, but it was through the prayer.
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My mother never stopped praying for me. She told me when I came back to Christ that it was
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every single night. She was praying fervently for me. My dad was the same. Even my best friend in
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the whole world. She is such a gem. She stayed with me through all of this and she's always been
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Christian and conservative. So she watched my journey going super far left and coming back. She
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said the same that she never stopped praying. So I would say the biggest thing that we can do is
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pray. We battle not against flesh and blood but spirits and it's so true and I'm a perfect
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representation of that. We have to remember that friends. Don't look at outward appearances. Just
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pray for that person because God can reach them. It's never too late until we die and then it's
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over one destination or the other. But if someone's still alive, no matter how hardened, no matter
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how radical, no matter how violent or demonic that they appear to be, there's never too far
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from God that he can't reach them. So good reminder, Evelyn Reeves. Before we run out of time,
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I do want to get to Pro-Life Advocacy Network in a minute. But your perspective, I've been studying
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the media and following the downward spiral for many, many decades and I'm so glad today that
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record high number of people distrust the media today. I'm so glad. But they're still a big
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following in a loyal audience of leftist Democrats, Marxist people that are progressive that
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we'll only hear that's like an echo chamber. So they've come out. A lot of the media, the talking
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heads and even prominent Democrats have been challenged after the assassination of Charlie Kirk
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to tone down the rhetoric. The accusations of fascism or Trump is a threat to democracy. He's
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going to destroy the country and a lot of violent rhetoric or these signs that they're signaling
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their followers. And some people only takes a handful of people to act on something, do something
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stupid. They will not take responsibility. The ones that are spouting this off. So how,
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what do you say about that? What can we do or what can young people do if that's all they're
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hearing from the sources that they are tuned into? Yeah. Well, from a Christian and a conservative
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perspective, like I said, prayer is huge. A thing that you can do just to try and reach these people.
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But just for young people in general who are seeing people that they may look up to in government,
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whether Democrat or Republican, you have to be able to understand why they're saying what they're
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saying. I don't, I don't know for sure if they actually think Donald Trump is a fascist or
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a Nazi or whatever they say. I don't know if they actually believe that about Charlie Kirk.
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I think that they're saying it to rile you up and to make you hate the other side to bring
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in voters. If they can paint all conservatives and all Christians as horrible nasty people,
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then not only are they going to be violent towards us, but also who would want to vote for a
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Nazi or a fascist. So just really keep in mind what kind of media you are consuming. One thing
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that I do now is I make sure that I have some liberal and left-leaning media sources that I watch
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or even just, you know, streamers or influencers who say different things than I think so that I can
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keep myself in check. And usually I'll say that I do find out that they're wrong and what they're
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saying, but at least I have their message in my life so I can know if I'm going too far one way or
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another. So I think it's a good reminder for everyone to really, really be aware of the media that
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you're consuming because it's so easy to be in that echo chamber. Yeah. And, and you know, they don't
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even understand what fascism is. I really believe that because they they accused Charlie Kirk of
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being a fascist. A fascist does not lovingly and respectfully debate ideas and then hand you
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the microphone. No, a fascist will silence you, censor you, shut you up and take you away
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in handcuffs. You know, that's where the fascism does. Anyway, Evelyn, let's get over to pro
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life advocacy network.org. How did you get for? Wait a minute, we skipped a very important step.
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Was there something someone you said friends were praying for you? Is that was that the answer?
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What brought you back to Jesus? Was it friends? Your mom? Did you already answer that?
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Yeah, it was definitely that. I mean, if we want to talk about what I experienced in my personal life
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that, you know, obviously it was God's influence, but what I experienced personally was definitely
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becoming pregnant with my first son. I was pregnant. I found out I was pregnant in March of 2021
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and that kind of forced me, you know, so very pro choice at the time, very leftist at the time.
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Wow. I wasn't married. I wasn't didn't have a stable job. My boyfriend didn't have a stable
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job at the time. It was a scary time. So I crawled back to my mom. I tried to, you know,
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make that relationship better because I had personally broken it. You know, my poor mother,
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she dealt with some crazy things from me. And so going back to her and having her lovingly
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and gently prod at me and ask me questions about what I believed because I was kind of a new age
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spiritualist to, you know, what I believed in. And I could never answer her. And she would show me
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full clips of what Donald Trump had said. And it would, you know, debunk what I thought he said.
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Just little things like that forcing me to, you know, rethink what I believed. And then seeing
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my son in an ultrasound at 11 weeks, he was a tiny little human and they're flipping around.
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And I heard his heartbeat. And there was just, you know, that voice in my head came back finally
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that I pushed away for so many years. Like he's alive. He's your son. He's a human. And from there,
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I just, you know, if human life has value, then God has to be real. And, you know, over the next
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year, I slowly came back to conservative beliefs and to, you know, for the most part, I came back to
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Christianity. So let's talk about repentance. How are you before God when you recognize some of
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these things? For example, they're in a mother's womb. There is a pre-born human being. It's not a
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dead thing. It's not a tissue. It is a human life worthy of value and protection. So how did you
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have to go to it? Because you were, I'm sure, promoting the pro-choice, you know, plant,
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plant parenthood and all the talking points. But then you came back to the truth. What was that
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like between you and God? It was rough. There were, you know, a few months, maybe even a year, where
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I didn't even feel worthy of praying or talking about God because I knew that I had, I mean, just
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being pro-choice and what I had said wasn't even the worst of it. I straight up blasphemed in
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so many different ways. I treated my body horribly. I treated my family horribly. My friends horribly.
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So there was so much repentance outwardly to people in my life that I had to do. I apologize to,
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so I don't even know how many people over and over and over. And my relationship with God definitely
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struggled because I didn't feel worthy of coming to him because I had messed up so bad. It took a
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long time. I still struggle with that sometimes. But I just have to remember, you know, Christ loved
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me so much that he sent his son to die for me to wipe away my sins. I am repentant when I do bad
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things and I'm covered in his blood and saved by him. And that's all that I can keep remembering
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and reminding myself when I, you know, we, none of us are worthy, but Christ's sacrifice saves us.
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So, you know, that's probably my message for people who might feel the same way as well about
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repentance. It could be very hard, especially if you've gone through what I've gone through,
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but it's so important. And Christ is always there. Amen. Amen. Preach it. Wish we had more time.
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All right. Parents, grandparents, I told you, I told you, you're going to have to get this episode
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to some young people that need to hear what Evelyn is sharing right now. So you somehow got connected
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with pro life advocacy network. Tell us about that. Yeah. Actually, me and my friend Andy, he's the
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president. We started pro life advocacy network in around 2022. It was more of an idea, a dream,
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kind of just a group at that point. But we really decided to take it seriously this year. And we
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finally became an official nonprofit. So that was just actually a couple months ago. So we're brand new.
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But our mission is to educate pro life advocates specifically. We found that there was a need in
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the pro life community for advocates that are able to answer the tough questions from pro choicers.
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Because a lot of what we see pushed in media is the dumber pro choice arguments, you know,
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the clump of cells, the parasite arguments. And those are very popular. And it's important to
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know how to tackle them. But we wanted them to be armed with more philosophical knowledge,
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with more biblical knowledge on how to defend against pro choice Christians as well. And just, you
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know, stats and facts about abortion about fetal development. We wanted to educate people more
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than ever because the internet social media is today's town square. It's where everybody is. It's
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where everybody tells their their opinions and their feelings to each other. So we're going into
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the online space. And we are educating people to defend the rights of the unborn more. And then,
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you know, once we get more funding, hopefully, once we can make this into a bigger nonprofit
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organization, we would also love to give tangible help to mothers in need as well. Wow. Fantastic.
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I commend you for doing it, for getting involved for getting this going. And friends, pray,
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pray, this is another organization that needs to be out there and grow, hopefully, and expand the
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reach. So you've got a Facebook and I see you're on X Twitter, Instagram as well. So, and that
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I'll take time to build, but, but keep pushing. I want to mention, there's the words on the
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website of abolish abortion. There's a difference between being pro life and then wanting absolutely
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no abortion at any stage and not compromising and playing political ping pong with legislation.
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Tell us about that aspect of your network. Yeah, I think there's a difference between, you know,
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a lot of different stances in the pro life community. Pro life is an umbrella that basically means
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you're against most abortion. So some people make rape and incest exceptions. Some people make
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medical exceptions. We do define abortion a very specific way in our in pro life advocacy
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network. We define it as the deliberate early termination of a pregnancy. And we do that specifically
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because we don't think that you should be able to terminate your pregnancy for non-medical reasons
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in any case. So that includes, you know, some pro-choiceers will argue that after viability, well,
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she can just deliver the baby and you know, you don't have to kill it, whatever she can just take
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it out of her body. But that actually carries a huge risk of severe developmental disabilities
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and physical disabilities for the children. So we want to see all abortion that is not medically
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necessary, abolished from the face of the planet. And we try to use language that makes it easy
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for people to understand as well. So we have a specific definition on our website. So we don't make
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rape exceptions or incest exceptions. And what our medical exception encompasses is simply the removal
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of the child alive. We don't agree with killing the child to remove it if that makes sense.
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It does make sense. And I like its courageous, but I like the fact that you put the word deliberate
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in there, the deliberate ending of a life, very important. And these are hard conversations.
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It shouldn't be for Christians, but because the culture and what has been normalized or accepted
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unfortunately in our culture and our government, that is influenced the church more than the church
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and biblical principles on life, God's creation and then life and then male, female, everything else
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influencing culture, politics, Hollywood, everything else. So we're in a backward system right now
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that is not Christian in our culture. And it's interesting. Our government really wasn't set up
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for it, but here we are. So you're on all the social media. Is there is there something that you'd
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like to share that well, I'm thinking about my next question? Go ahead.
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We are just trying to grow our platforms. I don't know if I can say this, but we're looking for
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volunteers as well to help people who are just, you know, passionate about pro-life advocacy,
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who want to make videos, help us with graphics, help us write posts, help us write newsletters.
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We're looking, you know, like I said, we're brand new. We just got official nonprofits status
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a couple months ago. So we're looking for help in any way. You can email me at evelinatprolifeadvocacy.org,
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and I will get you in touch with everyone else. And we would love to have you volunteer with us
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and help us in our mission too. So if they also, if they fill out the contact on the website,
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will that go to you eventually? That will go to the president, but he'll we talk every day.
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Awesome. So also what I didn't mention, I don't think. I remember how people can access your posts on
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Instagram, and then you do a lot on TikTok, you said as well. But she goes by the name Tulip
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Virtues. So T-U-L-I-P-V-I-R-T-U-E-S Tulip Virtues. So you can look up Evelin Reeves there. So we have
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just a couple minutes left, Evelyn. I would love for you to just share your heart to remember we
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talked about parents and grandparents and sharing this with someone that needs to hear or watch this
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episode. Say there's some young person watching this right now because someone said you've got to
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watch this. What would you share? And like they're they're they've already given into the leftist
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propaganda and the liberal talking points, the anti-Christian worldview because of that's all the
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influence Hollywood media, the education system, government corporations, everything is coming against
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them if you're a Christian or conservative. And if you're already growing up in a family that
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doesn't have any worldview, doesn't have any faith in anything, not a Christian, then you're
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going to go down that path. So what would you share to a young person watching right now?
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Yeah. So I think I would just again, like I said, there's no one who is too far gone. If you are
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frustrated, if you have consumed leftist media, if you have taken the blue pill or whatever you
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call it, if you have gone down that road and you are feeling confused and you are feeling
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hatred, you are an angry person. I mean, I felt so miserable. I was the most suicidal I had ever
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been. If you are feeling that darkness, the answer is Jesus. And I know that that sounds so cliche
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and people want to shut off their ears when I say that. But I was you. I was in your shoes and I
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know how alone and how much you try and fill it with all of these horrible hedonistic things.
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They are not going to fulfill you. The only thing that can fulfill you is a true relationship
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with Jesus Christ. I was you and he pulled me out of it and I will be praying for you and for
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everyone who is in that state because I know how harmful it is. And if you are a grandparent or
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a parent, keep praying, keep reaching out to them if you can. Nobody is too far gone. You should have
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seen me. You guys would have thought I was too far gone and too crazy. And look what God can do
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and he will do it. Amen. Amen. Thanks, Evelyn. By the way, friends, you can pray for Evelyn.
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God's protection and that God will continue to use her voice. A minute left, Evelyn, it's exciting.
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I wish we had more time with you. But it seems like there's a youth movement or a God is moving
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among at least maybe Gen Z reaching a lot of young people. People are starting to go to church,
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maybe because of what happened in Charlie Kirk. What are your thoughts on that real quick and just
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60 seconds or less? Yeah, I think it's amazing. I see it among my own friends. I have friends who,
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you know, were super approach voice and a couple years ago maybe became pro life and started
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talking to me, but they were never really Christian. They were never sold on that idea.
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And I've had two or three of my own close friends come to me and ask me about Jesus
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since Charlie Kirk's assassination. I have had my church be overwhelmed with new people.
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I've seen it online. I've seen people, I mean, we had people from the White House proclaiming
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Christ's name at Charlie Kirk's memorial. I am very hopeful. I hope that we can keep the momentum
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up and keep it going. And yeah, I'm praying for everybody. And if everyone could pray for me as
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well, we can do this. We can, we can create a revival in America. Amen. Here we are,
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Lord, send us and have God. If you're working on a revival, help us be a part of it. Just be
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about what you're doing. Friends, more time pro life advocacy network.org. Evelyn
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reads it's a pleasure to meet you, to do a show with you and have you on. Tell your story.
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Thanks for your time. Yes, thank you so much for having me. You're welcome. God bless you,
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friends, family and Christ. And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.
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you