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Packer/Viking preview with Dave Sinykin, Steven M. Sipple on the Huskers, David Kaplan talks Chicago sports & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Our number 2 Millery Condon, welcome back to the Iowa Sports
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  Radio Network. Wherever you are listening in
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  the state of Iowa, we are grateful that you are 15
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  minutes. Stephen M simple covers the
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  Huskers. We'll talk Huskers and Penn
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  State with sip in his weekly spot.
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  And then David Kaplan will head to Chicago for his bump.
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  He will join us. It's the Steelers and the Bears
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  in Aaron Rodgers House Soldier Field.
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  Hello Dave. sinicanzonecoverage.com pack for
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  preview on Sunday mornings year #30 on KFAN.
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  How are you, Dave? Trenton, Ken.
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  I'm good boys, good to talk to you as always.
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  Good to talk to you. Have you had your border battle
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  yet with PA or does that come tomorrow?
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  That'll be tomorrow with the Friday football feast in lovely
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  Blaine, MN. Beautiful.
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  And those things still is popular, even though the Vikings
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  are circling the drain. Well, they have been, I haven't,
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  I haven't, you know, seen the last couple weeks.
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  But I always see a video where they got the line wrapping
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  around the restaurant before it opens.
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  So yeah, it's still a pretty popular Friday activity because,
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  you know, they're serving beer at 9:00 in the morning.
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  Can't beat it. All good?
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  Hell yeah. My kind of people.
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  Absolutely. So Jordan Love had to miss a
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  little bit of time against the Giants.
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  Malik Willis came in. If nothing else, I'm not saying
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  you should replace Jordan Love. It seems like, you know, if you
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  have an adequate A serviceable backup quarterback that's a
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  commodity in the NFL. SO2 parter with Willis.
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  Is he a long term, let's hope he can stay in Green Bay?
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  Or is this a guy that you know, deserves another chance and may,
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  you know, seek green your pastures in search of that
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  second chance when he's given that opportunity?
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  Where are the Packers on Malik Willis?
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  Well, it's the last year of his deal and it's all going to be
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  down to whether another team views him as a guy that could
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  compete for the starting job. I do think he's going to seek
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  reader pastors and I do think he's earned an opportunity to
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  help feed for a job somewhere as a Packer follower.
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  I'd like nothing more than for him to be the backup for Green
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  Bay for as long as Jordan loves the quarterback he has.
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  He's just shown the ability now over the last couple seasons to
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  step in hold in the middle of a game.
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  I mean, he instantly ignited to see that that he had scored on a
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  drive over 7 plays and put him in the end zone using his legs,
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  his feet, his arm. Touchdown pass was not the most
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  open window, but he found Christian Watson, who made a
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  great catch. So, yeah, I know he is, I guess
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  with what fans would like to call the prototypical backup.
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  But as a young guy in his third or fourth year, I'm sure he'd
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  love a chance to show he could be the guy somewhere.
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  So what I ask you about this? We talk about rivalries to
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  explain to Ken, because he's only lived in central Iowa.
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  Rivalries depend in the state of Iowa, kind of where you live,
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  where you grow up. It's important.
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  Is it the same thing for Packer fans?
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  You obviously being where you are?
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  It's the Vikings and the Packers are a huge one, but is it
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  dependent on kind of where you live in the state?
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  What's more important between the Bears rivalry and the
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  Vikings rivalry for Green Bay fans?
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  I've always said that I grew up in Milwaukee and then for me,
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  the Bears are always the Packers biggest rival.
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  I grew up in the 70s and the 80s and it was just, it was Bears,
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  Packers and it wasn't close. But, you know, over the last 20
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  or 30 years that the Vikings have been such a more
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  competitive team. They have fought the Packers for
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  3/4 of the division titles over the last quarter century.
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  And I think once Brett Favre sported the purple jersey kind
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  of lit a fuse into this rivalry that took it to a place that had
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  never been. And I just think, you know,
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  overall, the Vikings would probably have the lead.
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  But over 100 and some years, it's been the Bears, and the
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  Bears have turned the corner. And Trent, I know you're praying
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  and hoping that their luck doesn't run out soon.
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  That might turn just a little bit.
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  Yeah, I think out of its geographical, if you're on the
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  West side of Wisconsin growing up, it's the bikes.
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  If you're a Milwaukee guy, it's always going to be fair.
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  Interesting. Interesting fact.
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  Well, here come the here come the Vikings, a team that look,
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  I, I, I don't want to call him a rudderless ship, but it sure
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  seems like that at the quarterback position.
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  I get that it's still early in his career.
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  He watched all of last year and this he's got till at least
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  until the end of the year to and then I think the Vikings brass
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  is going to have a decision. Do you see it that way, Dave?
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  When you watch JJ McCarthy as a fan of a different team, I'm
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  guessing you're glad he's under centre or in the shotgun in his
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  case. But where are you on McCarthy?
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  Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I haven't watched the last couple
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  of days because the Packers have played some of that.
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  But they're in such a tough spot because they they trumpeted the
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  fact that they had a young quarterback who got to sit for a
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  year, learn from not just Kevin O'Connell, but Kate McConnell,
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  and they put people around him to just put him in a position to
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  succeed in the season. Well, you know that they have a
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  veteran roster coming off A14 win season.
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  They spent the money they didn't have to pay a quarterback in the
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  offseason to fortify the offensive defensive lines.
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  And they they really thought this was going to be like a
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  Brock Purdy arc like the Niners had where they could build a
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  petrol roster around a rookie scale quarterback in.
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  And obviously through the games he's played this year, it
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  doesn't appear that he's ready to carry a team that's ready to
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  contend. So they're not a really tough
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  spot. I just, I think back to the
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  quote that Kevin O'Connell had when the season started, such a
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  good one that organizations fail young quarterbacks a lot more
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  than quarterbacks fail organizations.
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  So he has a new deal, He's not going anywhere.
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  I think he's tied his at least immediate future to JJ McCarthy
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  and I I think it's this year and next year.
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  I don't think they jump ship if things don't turn around.
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  This is a kid that's still showing his first start that go
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  on the road in prime time and and lead his team in the fourth
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  quarter and went to Detroit and had a good game against a very
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  good team. So he gives you these snippets,
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  but he's obviously not close to where he needs to be to be a
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  consistent quarterback. So I just think it's a lot of
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  frustration, especially with the fan base that they were all in
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  on. This is our team with all we
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  needed to show a quarterback that's ready to contribute and
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  we can go places. And unfortunately for them, he
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  hasn't yet shown that he's ready to contribute.
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  Definitely helps when he got a top flight running back like he
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  does when Josh Jacobs is healthy.
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  Then deal with that calf injury. We talked about that the last
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  couple of times, Dave. Now he's got another injury on
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  top of it with the knee contusion that he exit the game.
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  Didn't practice yesterday. Josh Jacobs, so important for
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  this offense and certainly inside the red zone.
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  Emanuel Wilson is the backup here.
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  What do we think that running back going into the week?
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  Well, Jacobs did return to practice today.
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  That just came out in the last, I don't know, 15 or 20 minutes.
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  So very encouraging. The guy's a warrior.
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  He's going to do all he wants. I'll tell you what, you're going
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  to see a lot of Chris Brooks, the Packers third running back
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  this week. He is their designated blitz
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  picker upper. If you look back at a couple of
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  plays last week, most particularly the play of the
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  game was that third ten. He needs to save me on Williams,
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  where Love had to buy some time in the pocket to tell his
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  receiver to go deep, and it was Chris Brooks who picked up a
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  blitzing linebacker and held him off for a few seconds there to
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  allow Love to make that play. They love having him out there.
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  When teams are blitz happy, we know that this is about the most
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  blitz happy defense you can face.
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  So yes, I think it looks good that Josh Jacobs is going to get
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  some run. But I do think you're going to
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  see maybe 2030% of Chris Brooks out there because he will help
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  keep Jordan a vertical and that's obviously a priority
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  number one every week. Is Lafleur having some fun with
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  the injury report? I mean, there's 15 guys listed
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  as questionable. Are they that banged up?
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  Yeah, there are so many guys that either limited or miss
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  practice today, only Clay Walker and Eight halves and I think
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  Lucas said miss practice. Otherwise everybody's practicing
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  in some regard. But they had guys drop out, I
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  guess Carl Brooks miss practice to his defensive lineman.
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  They had a number of guys drop out last week.
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  In fact, their whole receiving corps was questionable, like
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  coming into that game and still is getting into Sunday.
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  It's a banged up team. Most teams are banged up.
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  Feels like every year around this time, Green Bay is about as
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  injured as anybody else. But this is also the time of
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  year where they play their best football under Mount Lafleur.
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  No team has been better at home after Week 11 over the last six
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  years than Green Bay. This is obviously a huge one
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  because they got Detroit four days later than the Bears come
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  to town. So they're being very careful I
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  think with other ones listing these guys and, and how much
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  work they're giving him during the week because they know they
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  got the hardest schedule on paper right now in the NFL.
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  The rest of the year, 5 division games, a pro game in Denver, a
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  home game in Baltimore. There are no gimmies, there are
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  no bunnies. There are no Jameis Winston and
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  and interim head coaches on the docket.
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  So they they got to get healthy and be very careful making sure
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  their guys are ready for Sunday. Christian Watson has returned,
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  coming off the ACL tear at the end of last season.
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  It looked good, had a couple of touchdowns last week.
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  Is it time to take the training wheels off?
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  We have always thought you can see at a time this guy could be
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  an absolute #1 and it's never popped because of a myriad of
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  different reasons. Is it time now?
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  I mean, there's a time to get him out there playing 80% of the
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  snaps and seeing if Watson can turn into the guy that a lot of
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  thought people thought he was going to be 3-4 years ago.
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  Yeah, I think it is. And I think they're really
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  getting closer to that. The first couple of weeks they
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  were careful. I thought he played a lot more
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  last week. That touchdown catch that ended
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  up winning the game. I mean, it looked like Randy
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  Moss, the way he went up and used his hands to just swipe
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  that ball. There were two or three guys
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  around him. He's got everything you want,
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  right? The size, the hands, the speed,
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  he's a difference maker. He just hasn't been able to stay
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  on the field. So they're, I think just always
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  cautious that they want him available in December and
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  January. That has not always been the
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  case. They're going to get Jaden Reed
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  back here in a couple of weeks. They got to really open things
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  up in the middle of the field, which will give them more
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  opportunities downfield with Christian Watson.
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  But he's becoming a guy that George Lovin this offense relies
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  that when they have to have a finish, have to see a playmate.
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  He is their most talented wide receiver.
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  That's not even a question. Maybe Matthew Golden, we'll get
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  there, but it sits right now. Watson's the most talented guy.
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  It's just a matter of whether he can stay on the field.
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  And yeah, I do think they're getting closer to just saying we
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  can't mess around. We need this guy to make plays.
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  Give me 30 seconds on this day, because we won't have to.
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  We won't have an opportunity to talk to before the Thanksgiving
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  Day lid lifter against the Lions.
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  Are are the Packers considering what happened in week one,
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  walking into that proverbial Lions den on Thanksgiving to
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  kick off the triple header of NFL football?
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  Not overlooking the Vikings game, but if you would take a
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  look at Thursday for us real quick.
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  Yeah, I think it's obviously going to be a game that'll be
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  the first game of the season. Green Bay is not favored and the
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  Lions will be coming off most likely a pretty big win over the
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  New York Giants. But I give Green Bay a pretty
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  good chance to earn the sweep. I just think Detroit, you look
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  at the stats, man, they struggle on Thanksgiving Day.
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  They just do not play well on Thanksgiving Day.
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  You wouldn't think it's the case, but the facts don't lie.
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  And I think their offensive line is an issue.
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  They are banged up and the Green Bay's front has not been great
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  if laid outside of Michael Parson's.
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  That's been a talker, Where's Rashaan Gary?
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  Where's Devante Wyatt? I think Green Bay can give
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  Detroit some fits. Will they win?
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  I wouldn't put money on it, but I think it's going to be a
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  really close game. Most people are going to be just
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  betting the Lions and assuming they're going to get the split.
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  Green Bay may have some surprises in store.
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  Good stuff. Happy Thanksgiving, Dave.
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  Appreciate. We'll talk to you in advance of
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  the Bears making their way to Lambeau Field first weekend in
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  December. Thank you, Dave Sinican.
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  You bet. Have a great holiday guys.
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  Yep, you do the same. Thanks pal Dave Sinican as we
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  check in on one of our regional teams of the Green Bay Packers.
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  Well, this time next week will be Thanksgiving.
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  It'll be the eve of away we go the heroes game over in Lincoln.
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  This year it's Nebraska and Iowa.
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  And before they they play each other, we've got Penn State,
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  Nebraska and Stephen M Sipple from Husker Illustrated part of
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  on three media joins us. Ciprian Ken, thanks for joining
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  us. How are you?
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  Fine. How are you?
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  Guys doing well, just before we get into things, just plant this
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  in the back of your head. We're going to call you Tuesday
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  next week, Tuesday of next week at 1:30, but I'll text you
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  'cause we have to have you on Husker Week over here.
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  Sip. You know that, buddy.
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  Oh God, yes, I have to I have to hear you guys on Husker week.
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  I need you. You can count on that.
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  All right, let's let's get into the bye week.
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  I guess the maybe away from the team, but in a recruiting sense,
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  Rayola's kid brother decommitting.
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  I'm guessing it's a massive talker over in the state of
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  Nebraska, particularly in Lincoln.
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  What is? Is there anything, anything to
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  read into that step? As far as Dylan?
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  Goes whatever the youngster is, yeah.
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  Oh, no. Dayton.
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  OK, so. Dayton, Yeah, I think what?
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  You're asking is, is it? Does this, does this indicate
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  that Dylan might be on the move? It's, yeah, Dayton Raiola that
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  he committed. He's a class of 2026 kid in
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  Beaufort, Georgia. He's having a fabulous season at
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  Beaufort. But yeah, he'd be committed
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  yesterday. Got going so fast.
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  Yeah, it was yesterday. So, you know, the question in my
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  mind right away was, are we going to get an announcement on
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  Dylan too here? You know, Dylan's out.
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  He's got a fractured fibula. He had surgery.
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  You know, what you're seeing is guys announcing they're going to
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  go in the portal. The portal doesn't open until
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  January 2nd. But you know, I did not
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  necessarily anticipate it going like that.
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  The guys would announce they're going in.
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  So I thought, OK, is this what's going to happen?
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  No, it's not. I don't anticipate that.
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  The I don't, I mean, I don't mind saying I talked to Dominic,
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  his dad. I've known Dominic, his father,
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  the father, the Rayolas. He's a great center in Nebraska.
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  And I've known him since 1998. You know, we've had a
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  relationship for 30 years, you know, I mean, so I, you know, I
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  get a lot of information. Dom doesn't.
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  Yeah, I got to be careful what I share, obviously.
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  But no, they're separate. They're separate matters.
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  Dayton and Dylan now it's complex because Dylan's out and
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  they have, you know, TJ Latif is playing and he played very well
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  against the LA So, you know, it's fluid.
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  You got to kind of see how these next two games go.
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  And then like if if let's just put it this way, if TJ Latif
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  plays well and they win, you know, one or one or two of these
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  remaining games, then there will be hard decisions that have to
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  be made. But right now, it's just kind of
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  status quo. You just got to kind of see how
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  it plays out. Latif this week, Penn State team
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  that playing hard, obviously not the season anybody anticipated
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  coming into the year, but a good defense.
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  Now for the first time, a team's going to have tape against them,
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  a lot of tape. A full game against UCLA if it
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  goes well this week. I mean, how much does that
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  change the equation? You said it, it kind of matters.
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  But if he plays well here, plays well against Iowa defense and
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  the Rayola fact, I mean, SIP, this is just so complex because
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  it's not just any quarterback. It's the family connections, the
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  dynamic, the uncle on the staff there.
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  There's so many layers to this. It's one of the more intriguing
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  stories I think left in the Big 10 right now because we know
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  it's Indiana and Ohio State and the championship game, other
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  teams fighting for a playoff. I think this is incredibly
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  intriguing for this, how you play this and really the future
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  that the interim future, the next couple of years of Nebraska
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  football of how this plays out because of all the extra layers
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  that go into it. Oh yeah, I mean, it's.
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  It's. Yeah, I mean from a.
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  Just a. Drama, drama, just interesting.
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  I mean, you know, it's not negative.
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  I don't look at it that way. Some of it just there's a
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  pragmatic element to it and that is the money.
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  It's just, it's just you can't pay 2 quarterbacks, you know,
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  $2,000,000 a piece. And if Latif plays well, think
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  about how marketable he would be if he OK, So what he did against
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  UCLA was 13 for 15. And he looked, he looked, he
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  looked very good. He was sharp, 13 of 15.
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  Didn't throw his first incompletion until early in the
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  fourth quarter. Don't know that anybody really
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  saw that coming. You know, he handled it really
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  well. He was sharp in all areas.
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  Operationally, they didn't have issues.
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  You know, he threw, he threw balls into tight windows a
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  couple times. They asked him to throw on the
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  final closing Series A couple times, which indicated
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  confident. He went to Dana Holgerson before
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  the game and said, hey, I got you, I got this.
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  Call it like you normally would, tells you he's very confident
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  now. Ball was sticky and it was
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  sticky. It was 85° out there.
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  You guys picked up football. Sometimes it just feels really
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  good in your hand, right? And it comes out well.
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  And it was that kind of day. It was it was gorgeous.
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  It was no win. You know, he was in his element.
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  He's a California kid from Compton now.
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  Now you're going in a different. I can't even think of 2 football
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  environments much different than the Rose Bowl in Pasadena and
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  the hell hole that is Penn State.
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  I, I, I, I, I hate to say it that way, but that place is like
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  going to Croatia. So now it's going to be a lot
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  different. It's going to be a lot different
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  for for Latif now we'll see what it looks like there that then
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  we'll get a better idea about PJ Latif.
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  Is Emmett Johnson kind of have a difficult decision once it all
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  comes to an end and Brian that if it if the decision is yes, he
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  will have a a decision to make. Then they get it would come to
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  an end next Friday against the Hawkeyes mean they're using out
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  of the backfield. Obviously we see how gifted he
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  is with his footwork. But the NFL I mean it's a man's
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  game as you know sip SO2 parter Emmett Johnson.
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  Is he a pro in your mind, and is he going to, you know,
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  ultimately have to make that decision in advance of the bowl
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  game? I OK, I'm going to go to the
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  back door on this and answer the second one.
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  You know how it goes. He he'll get a great, you know,
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  he'll be evaluated in a formal manner, in a formal manner by
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  the NFL and so I'm sure he'll base his decision much on that
• 19:02
  evaluation, pre draft evaluation.
• 19:05
  And then also, you know, he plays for a head coach that
• 19:10
  spent three plus years in the NFL and has a lot of connection.
• 19:14
  He'll have a good idea of his. The best idea you can get I
• 19:19
  guess is often, it's often very difficult to get a good read on
• 19:25
  it, but I think you'll get it, have a pretty good read on it.
• 19:28
  Most people here, especially in the media, the guys I talked to
• 19:32
  just think it's automatic. He'll be gone.
• 19:36
  He's probably a 3rd to 5th rounder type guy now.
• 19:41
  What I say to them now I'm in the vast minority here, but I
• 19:45
  just, if Nebraska puts $1,000,000 in front of them,
• 19:51
  which they can and they probably would have to, that's, that's
• 19:54
  guaranteed. I mean, you've got $1,000,000
• 19:57
  right there. There's no guarantee they're
• 19:59
  going to make an NFL team. In my mind.
• 20:02
  I, I don't know that he's that kind of back where he can just
• 20:05
  say, Oh yeah, he's going to be on a roster.
• 20:06
  He's good, but he's five 11200 and he's not a blazing fast
• 20:11
  running back at five 11200. I like what he's doing.
• 20:16
  He's very good. He's he's a first team all Big
• 20:18
  10 pick in my mind. But I don't know that he's a no
• 20:23
  brainer NFL pick or or I don't think it's a no brainer that he
• 20:27
  would make a roster. So that I don't know.
• 20:32
  I wonder if if you would, if you'd say, OK, I'll take the
• 20:35
  million, come back and then try the NFL next year.
• 20:37
  I don't know. I don't know what he'll do.
• 20:39
  Offensively, we've seen certainly some steps forward
• 20:42
  this year. Special teams have been a big
• 20:43
  step forward. But I want to go to Dana
• 20:45
  Holderson coaching carousel is going to be upon us here pretty
• 20:48
  quick. Domino's are going to fall and
• 20:49
  he's not going to get the Penn State job or the Florida chop.
• 20:51
  We know that. But there is a trickle down
• 20:53
  effect. There are some backfilling of
• 20:55
  jobs that are going to happen. Does Holderson want to be the
• 20:58
  headband once again? And even if it's back to the mid
• 21:01
  major route, you know, something along those lines, could that be
• 21:04
  a possibility that he's going to be or his agent more
• 21:06
  importantly, going to be shopping him and Nebraska's
• 21:08
  going to be in the market for new OC?
• 21:12
  You know, there hasn't been any, he hasn't been linked to
• 21:15
  anything. There hasn't been any speculate
• 21:18
  there. He hasn't turned up on any list.
• 21:21
  You know, like Oklahoma State, there was there was a little bit
• 21:24
  of a little bit of speculation out of the gate, but it quickly
• 21:29
  went away. I don't know.
• 21:36
  It's kind of depends on on what how that carousel spins and what
• 21:41
  else opens. I think.
• 21:44
  I do think he would he would be he would become a head coach
• 21:48
  again for the right price. But I it hasn't been a big
• 21:53
  discussion over here, Trent. It really hasn't.
• 21:56
  It could get to be 1, but man, it hasn't.
• 21:59
  It's nobody's talking about it right now.
• 22:01
  You don't more than anything it to me, it would be like a
• 22:04
  sunbelt job comes open, you know, something where maybe he
• 22:07
  has some connections down there Conference USAI don't know it.
• 22:10
  Would he be willing to do that? Heck, it even might be a pay cut
• 22:12
  at some of those places down there, even at the FCS level.
• 22:15
  So that's kind of more what I was thinking.
• 22:17
  And those jobs aren't open yet because of the backfilling that
• 22:20
  has happened. Yeah, just want to get that one
• 22:21
  on your radar SIP. I'd have to look at the CA what
• 22:25
  those teams are paying Like what's the Sunbelt team paying a
• 22:29
  head coach how you like? I know.
• 22:33
  Oh, OK, there's one. OK.
• 22:35
  I can't say. You know, there's some.
• 22:37
  I was put this. There's some indications that
• 22:40
  just sprung to my mind, thankfully, that he's not
• 22:43
  looking. Gotcha.
• 22:45
  I think that I I there's some pretty good evidence that would
• 22:50
  suggest that Holgerson's not looking to leave at all.
• 22:53
  I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's back here.
• 22:55
  What When it comes to Penn State Zip, are you hearing any names
• 22:59
  for the Penn State gig? A heart line and then the
• 23:05
  offensive. The offensive coordinator with
• 23:08
  the Bills whose name is escaping me.
• 23:10
  You don't know who it is that that That's the name.
• 23:15
  Have you heard de Boer from Alabama if he wants to get out
• 23:18
  ahead of the posse? No, no, I haven't heard that.
• 23:21
  That'd be remarkable to me. I have.
• 23:25
  No, I haven't heard that. No, I haven't been paying that
• 23:32
  close attention to it since. Rule Yeah, ruled it out.
• 23:35
  Will not because of it. Yeah, rule.
• 23:39
  Now some people have the reason I I even bring it up is because
• 23:42
  there's people that have asked me since they only had to pay
• 23:46
  James Franklin 9,000,000 out the door, would they maybe circle
• 23:50
  back to a high-priced guy like rule?
• 23:53
  No, I've heard this week. No, that's not I well, got it.
• 23:58
  I'm risking looking pretty bad here, but I'd say his rules
• 24:02
  names off the board and I would say I haven't paid that close
• 24:06
  attention to it because of that. Joe Brady, the OC with Buffalo,
• 24:10
  Art with Joe Brady. Yeah.
• 24:12
  And that was that was Joe Burrows guy at LSU, was it not?
• 24:15
  Yeah, it was. Yeah, It was when they were at
• 24:17
  LSU. Sip, Enjoy Croatia.
• 24:20
  Have a good trip out there. Safe flight there and back.
• 24:24
  And we will talk to you on Tuesday.
• 24:25
  I'll text you, SIP. Thanks for doing this buddy.
• 24:28
  Thank you guys take. Care.
• 24:29
  Yeah, good to talk to you, Stephen M Simple on Three Media
• 24:32
  huskerillustrated.com, huskerillustrated.com.
• 24:36
  Sunbelt jobs, Conference USA jobs, about $1,000,000, about a
• 24:39
  million, Yeah, for the head coach now, Jamie Chadwell at
• 24:41
  Liberty, because he's got all those raises to stick around and
• 24:43
  they got different kind of money there at Liberty.
• 24:45
  He's up north, $5 billion. But yeah, in general, about
• 24:49
  $1,000,000. Probably holder since probably
• 24:51
  making around that range too. But you want to be the head guy,
• 24:55
  Want to get back in the mix? How old do you think Dana
• 24:57
  Holgerson is? How old he's?
• 24:59
  56 He's 54. OK, Iowa guy.
• 25:04
  Yeah, yes. Started with leeching company at
• 25:06
  Iowa Wesleyan, Valdosta State. He's been all over the place.
• 25:10
  He's been a lot of places, no doubt about that.
• 25:13
  We're going to head to Chicago. When we come back, we'll catch
• 25:16
  up with the cap man. We'll do some Bears with Cappy.
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  Let's head straight to the Windy City.
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  Here's David Kaplan, ESPN 1000 and the recap.
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  That's his YouTube channel and he joins us Capper Trenton.
• 25:51
  Ken, good to talk to you. I appreciate you coming on.
• 25:53
  How are things in Chicago Cap? Everything is awesome.
• 25:58
  Couple things. How am I on the show every week
• 26:01
  with you guys and Trent has planes of the day?
• 26:05
  I don't get them. I don't.
• 26:07
  Know you're lucky. You're lucky you'll be in the
• 26:09
  red. Wow.
• 26:11
  And then I find out that Ken Miller has never seen the Blues
• 26:15
  Brothers. It's baffling.
• 26:17
  Are you? Like a bot or are you a human?
• 26:19
  I just not a big movie guy, Cap. You know, I don't know what it
• 26:22
  is. But it was a movie from the era
• 26:23
  that you watched. Movies, That doesn't matter.
• 26:25
  If you're a movie guy, there are certain ones.
• 26:27
  You go, yeah, I need to see that.
• 26:30
  All right, Absolutely. Hey, Cap, before we get into the
• 26:35
  barracks, as I wanted, they're on a great run.
• 26:36
  They're first place to the NFC North.
• 26:38
  I'm not sure many people after 10 games saw that coming, but
• 26:41
  here we are. Shotay Minaga.
• 26:43
  I've seen conflicting reports from people who may or may not
• 26:47
  be close to the Cubs. You would know better.
• 26:49
  Were they disappointed? Were they surprised he's back
• 26:52
  for his one year? Did that catch the Cubs off
• 26:56
  guard Cap? I think it did.
• 26:59
  And if it didn't, I think they made a mistake.
• 27:02
  That's all. I, I think it's a, you know, a
• 27:05
  terrible decision. Not that he's not a good human
• 27:09
  and he's like, no, OK pitcher, he's not great.
• 27:12
  He's OK. But you're going to pay
• 27:15
  22,000,022, point O 5 to be exact, for a guy who by your own
• 27:22
  admission, you said game five, biggest game of our season,
• 27:27
  biggest game probably since the World Series.
• 27:31
  And guess what? We can't pitch him.
• 27:33
  He's not good enough. And so you ended up, you know,
• 27:37
  bringing back Matt Boyd and whoever the heck else you
• 27:39
  pitched. You couldn't start a guy you're
• 27:42
  now paying $22 million for. I don't care what they tell you.
• 27:46
  I do not believe they thought he was picking up that option.
• 27:50
  So what does that do as far as what their offseason plans may
• 27:53
  have been? Does this, you know, stop
• 27:55
  somebody from them kicking the tires on on a wannabe or on a
• 27:59
  free agent? Does this stop?
• 28:03
  Well, let's put it this way. Does it Maybe.
• 28:06
  Should it? No, Absolutely not.
• 28:08
  Absolutely not. There is no chance that the
• 28:12
  Chicago Cubs, with the type of revenue they bring in, should be
• 28:16
  affected because Shota Imanaga said, yeah, I'm going to pick up
• 28:21
  the one year option. It's a one year contract and I
• 28:24
  know people go, well, there's no such thing as a bad one year
• 28:28
  contract. I'll beg to differ with you.
• 28:30
  There are some bad one year deals when you know you're on a
• 28:33
  budget, but for the Cubs that should not affect anything they
• 28:37
  do. Unfortunately, that's not how
• 28:39
  they have always behaved. Over to Soldier Field and the
• 28:43
  Bears as they welcome in the Steelers this week.
• 28:45
  Chicago, this team winning close games.
• 28:48
  Now as we have learned in the NFL, Minnesota Vikings a perfect
• 28:52
  example on a year to year basis, you can't just count on winning
• 28:55
  all the close games. Kansas City Chiefs are proving
• 28:57
  the exact same thing this season, but they here and now
• 29:00
  there's something special that happens in the course of NFL
• 29:02
  seasons where it just always seems to break your way.
• 29:06
  Are you getting that feeling that the brakes is just that
• 29:08
  kind of season that the Bears and that not sustainable for
• 29:11
  26/27/28, but for this year that it's one of those years that's
• 29:15
  special and they're going to get those breaks and and because of
• 29:18
  that, this team's got a real shot come January.
• 29:21
  Yeah. I don't think it's sustainable.
• 29:23
  I also don't think they have a + 16 and a turnover margin, which
• 29:28
  is miles ahead of anyone else in the league.
• 29:31
  I don't think that's sustainable either.
• 29:33
  I don't. If you remember in 18, I think
• 29:36
  they had six defensive touchdowns.
• 29:39
  And I said that's not going to happen in 2019.
• 29:42
  And of course it didn't. It wasn't like I it was
• 29:45
  Nostradamus there. It's just not how it works in
• 29:48
  the NFL. So I think they have a good
• 29:50
  team. I think that they're maybe a
• 29:52
  little ahead of where Ben Johnson thought they might be at
• 29:56
  this point in time. But you've got to start playing
• 30:00
  a little bit cleaner football in run defense at times, past
• 30:05
  defense at times. Like I think this is a really,
• 30:08
  really interesting game this weekend, whether Rodgers plays
• 30:11
  or not. I know there are a lot of people
• 30:12
  in Chicago want Aaron to play so that they feel like they can we
• 30:16
  beat Aaron Rodgers. I'm not one of them, and I'm a
• 30:19
  Aaron Rodgers fan. You know, I like that guy.
• 30:22
  I've never met him. I've never interviewed him.
• 30:24
  I like him. There's something about him that
• 30:25
  I like because I like people who say I don't care what you think
• 30:29
  of me. I'm going to treat people the
• 30:31
  right way. I'm going to play hard.
• 30:33
  I'm going to be good at whatever it is I do.
• 30:36
  But if you don't like my persona, I don't care.
• 30:39
  I like people like that. Comfortable in his own skin.
• 30:42
  But if we if we beat the Steelers this weekend and he
• 30:46
  plays and we beat them like a drum, 41 to nothing, he's still
• 30:52
  25 and five with the Packers. Doesn't change it.
• 30:56
  We would have beaten 41 year old Aaron Rodgers with the
• 30:58
  Pittsburgh Steelers. OK, cool.
• 31:00
  I'm glad we won. I want to get to 8 and three.
• 31:02
  That's all I care about, but it still doesn't change the fact
• 31:05
  that he owned our ass with with the Green Bay Packers.
• 31:08
  No, he really did. Well, that saves me asking.
• 31:10
  One of our listeners reached out and wanted me to ask that for
• 31:12
  you. Your affection for Rogers.
• 31:14
  I, I'm with. He's a hell of a quarterback.
• 31:16
  He's a weird duck. Not sure he's married.
• 31:17
  Says he is, but nobody's seen his wife to this point.
• 31:20
  But more power. Pretty weird.
• 31:22
  My producer Shane Orling at ESPN, he thinks that his wife is
• 31:26
  an AI bot. That's what he believes.
• 31:28
  He could be absolutely right, wouldn't be a bit bit surprised
• 31:30
  1 little bit. And you're right.
• 31:32
  He absolutely did own the Bears is a member of the Green Bay
• 31:35
  Packers and I believe he'll do everything he can in order to
• 31:38
  try and play. So cap as you look forward after
• 31:41
  this week, I mean, there's a it gets Black Friday in
• 31:44
  Philadelphia. That's going to be no picnic.
• 31:46
  You've still got I mean, if the schedule is very tough before it
• 31:51
  comes, he's still got to go to the Packers and and go to the
• 31:53
  Packers, host the Packers. You got the Niners in San
• 31:56
  Francisco Lions on the following week.
• 31:59
  You said 10 in order to get into the playoffs.
• 32:01
  What is it going to win take to win the division cap?
• 32:04
  Is does 11 and six get you the NFC North?
• 32:10
  Probably does if you beat the Especially if two of those wins
• 32:14
  are over. Detroit in Chicago and Green Bay
• 32:18
  split with Yeah, if you do that and you win 11 games, yeah,
• 32:22
  which means you would probably. Beat the Browns.
• 32:26
  Probably beat the Browns, and then you still have to go to
• 32:28
  Philly and you got to go San Fran, San Francisco.
• 32:33
  So if you found a way to get to 11 wins and you have victories
• 32:38
  over the Lions and the Packers coming up, Yep.
• 32:41
  Yeah, I think you can win the division.
• 32:42
  I do. One of the more happy things
• 32:45
  that I've seen here recently has been the emergence of Luther
• 32:48
  Burden. I had a unhealthy infatuation
• 32:51
  with him at Missouri. Love that dude and when the
• 32:53
  Bears drafted him I got excited. Now Zacchaeus good solid
• 32:56
  veteran, but the drops had started to pile up for him.
• 33:00
  But back-to-back plays a couple of weeks ago and now Luther
• 33:02
  Burton feels like the training wheels are off for him.
• 33:05
  How much more can he add to this offense kind of going forward?
• 33:09
  And with a Doonese being banged up, it's football.
• 33:12
  A lot of guys are going to be banged up at this point.
• 33:14
  A relatively healthy and fresh, if you will, Luther Burden.
• 33:17
  What could that mean to this passing offense?
• 33:19
  Oh, I think a lot. I think he's Tommy Waddle
• 33:21
  Believes he might be right now. Their best receiver.
• 33:25
  Wow, which is a big statement. Tommy was a very, very precise
• 33:31
  route runner. Tommy was never going to, you
• 33:34
  know, beat you with his top end speed.
• 33:36
  I think he ran A4740 for A at his pro day and he became a
• 33:42
  outstanding NFL receiver. But he was never going to be the
• 33:45
  guy that's going to beat you with Tyree kill like breakaway
• 33:49
  speed. But he loves guys that run
• 33:53
  correct routes. I'll remember this.
• 33:55
  There was a guy named Joaquin Iglesias from Oklahoma.
• 33:58
  Bears draft him in the third round.
• 34:00
  We go out to training camp. We're working together.
• 34:04
  This is years ago. We go out to training camp.
• 34:07
  We literally walk up to the field and they're going through
• 34:11
  drills. We watch maybe 5 minutes, maybe
• 34:15
  they haven't even started all the team portion of the stuff.
• 34:18
  Waddle watches him catch the ball, watches him run around,
• 34:21
  turns to me and my producer, Mike Ferron is now on MLB
• 34:24
  Network radio and he goes, what round?
• 34:27
  We take that kid in. I said third, he goes, no
• 34:31
  chance. He makes it.
• 34:32
  He's terrible. And of course he was cut a year
• 34:34
  later. I'm like, what did you see?
• 34:36
  He goes watch how he measures his route off, watch where his
• 34:39
  hand position is. Tommy was telling us the other
• 34:42
  night, what do you think you catch the ball with?
• 34:44
  I already know the answer because I've been best friends
• 34:47
  with him for, you know, 20 years.
• 34:49
  And somebody said, well, you catch it with your chest.
• 34:52
  He said wrong. Somebody else said, we catch it
• 34:55
  with your hand wrong. You catch the football with your
• 34:58
  eyes. He said.
• 35:00
  You track Jack it with your eyes, you look it into your
• 35:02
  hands, he goes. And that's what Luther Burden
• 35:04
  does as well as anybody he's seen in a long time.
• 35:07
  Cap, we're out of time brother. Hopefully Tuesday at 1:00 will
• 35:11
  work for you. OK, as we got a.
• 35:13
  Short day at 1:00. O'clock, yes.
• 35:16
  Tuesday at one, I'm in. Good.
• 35:17
  I'll text you. Thank you, buddy.
• 35:19
  We'll talk to you then. Have a great.
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  Weekend Cap, Blues Brothers and report back.
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  favor this month. Yeah.
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  Yeah. I mean, there's been ties.
• 36:17
  Yeah man, we bounced back this week. 5 and O Tuesday, 2:00 and
• 36:20
  1:00 last night. Boy, and now the Baylor, Iowa,
• 36:23
  Baylor game is up. I was favored.
• 36:25
  I was favored. I'm 3.
• 36:27
  And a half the DraftKings. Crap in the points.
• 36:30
  That was a surprise to me. Now.
• 36:32
  When I first saw it, I thought Baylor was favored because I saw
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  an opener. I thought it was 1 1/2.
• 36:37
  Yeah, I didn't see anything. There's some steam coming in.
• 36:39
  Yeah, I'm going to jump aboard on the other side.
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  Give me the Baylor Bears with one of my picks and this one, by
• 36:45
  the way, Iowa State 19 1/2 point favorite tonight at Drake in
• 36:49
  where? Do you find in that at circa?
• 36:51
  That's at DraftKings that I have open right now and yeah, I'll
• 36:56
  see if I can open up some. Not on wager talk, that's why I
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  was asking. Do have a couple other plays,
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  though, coming up this evening, starting with the Iowa men,
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  Chicago State's. Oh, and five.
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  They're bad. Chicago State, year after a year
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  after year, is one of the worst teams in all of college
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  basketball. Schedule put.
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  Them. On there and blow them out.
• 37:16
  I'm going to lay the 32 1/2. And that is a Big 10 network
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  plus. That's a BTN plus and I'm going
• 37:23
  to grab the Texans tonight. The points, 5 1/2.
• 37:25
  I think it's going to be ugly Thursday night.
• 37:28
  Quick turn around at home, a Buffalo defense traveling and
• 37:31
  gets a backup quarterback. This thing is going to be gross.
• 37:33
  It's going to be some bad football like 1613, you know,
• 37:36
  something like that. Think it's going to be an ugly
• 37:38
  1. Allen will do enough to win it,
• 37:40
  but we'll grab the points with the Texans.
• 37:41
  And then Josh Allen will get on a plane and fly to Wyoming,
• 37:44
  where they will retire his jersey on Saturday. #17 Yep, 17
• 37:49
  remember it. Kinnick Stadium, him coming to
• 37:51
  town. That's wild, isn't it?
• 37:52
  Him and Rob Roethlisberger. And there's a couple throws in a
• 37:56
  game like, oh, that dude's got an arm.
• 37:57
  Yeah, but I'm even a first. He's a big dude, man.
• 38:00
  He's a well, They both were Roethlisberger.
• 38:02
  No shrinking Violet, either. I'd rather have Josh Allen.
• 38:06
  Roethlisberger's got the rings. We'll see if Allen can catch.
• 38:09
  I'm not sure he will. Yeah.
• 38:12
  So on the slate tonight, NFL. Yep.
• 38:16
  And I hate this night. Why?
• 38:17
  There's a lot of things that you want.
• 38:18
  I want to bounce around. Yeah, that's impossible.
• 38:20
  I totally agree. But you got Amazon and then
• 38:22
  you're getting back to ESPN 2 and we got ESPN Plus for the
• 38:25
  Iowa State Drake women game. Oh, and by the way, BTN Plus,
• 38:28
  then for the Iowa men against Chicago.
• 38:30
  It's just it's too much. Yes, bring back cable.
• 38:34
  Yeah, I'm with you, trend. Old guys yelling into
• 38:36
  microphones. New to two.
• 38:39
  And we'll do it again tomorrow. We hope you can join it.
• 38:41
  I know a lot of old guys listen to us, and I'm grateful for
• 38:43
  that. All right, that's going to do it
• 38:45
  for us. The youngsters are coming up
• 38:46
  next. Well, one in particular, and
• 38:48
  Sean Roberts, Lucas, doing a great job.
• 38:49
  Lucas and Sean, they're next off the bench. 2 until 5.
• 38:52
  Nord Condon, noon to two. Thanks for being with us.