Latest / Murder Files Unsealed / The Disappearance of Louk Phiangdae
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to another deep dive. Today. We're tackling a case
- 0:03of really baffling one, the disappearance of eleven year old
- 0:06book Fionday back in nineteen ninety six. Yeah, we've got well,
- 0:11we've got articles, we've got interviews to sort through, a
- 0:14whole paper trail. It's really the investigation. The families were
- 0:18a deal and all these unanswered questions that just kind
- 0:21of hang over the whole case, you know, So we're
- 0:23going to try and piece it together, try to figure
- 0:25out what happened to look.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Well, one of the things that struck me right away
- 0:28was that this family had already been through so much hardship.
- 0:31I mean, they were low ocean immigrants. Look's father, Boo Long.
- 0:35He had been a prisoner of war for thirteen years.
- 0:37Can you imagine that.
- 0:38Speaker 1: That's incredible.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Yeah, the resilience to come back from something like that.
- 0:42They come to the US in nineteen eighty eight, you know,
- 0:45looking for a new beginning, and they settle in Raymond, Washington.
- 0:49It's a small coastal town in nineteen ninety.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Okay, so a fresh start, a quiet life.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Until February sixth, nineteen ninety six, Stormy Tuesday, night, Look vanishes,
- 1:01just gone from their home, no trace. It's like something
- 1:04out of a movie, right, stormy nights, small town. Yeah, absolutely,
- 1:07It's got all the makings of a real mystery.
- 1:09Speaker 2: It really does. But what makes this case so perplexing
- 1:13is the lack of answers. Like there just aren't any
- 1:16clear answers. The police. I mean they did a very
- 1:19extensive search, tracking dogs, helicopters, boats, divers. They even searched
- 1:26the Willapa River, which runs right through the town.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Hold on Willapara River. Yeah, is that important? Like do
- 1:33I need a visual here?
- 1:34Speaker 2: Yeah? It is, okay, because the river is going to
- 1:36come up again when we talk about the theories. Raymond's
- 1:39like this quaint town. It's nestled on the Willapa River.
- 1:42It's not far from the Washington Coast. It's the kind
- 1:45of place where everybody knows everyone. So when something like
- 1:48this happens, the disappearance of Look, it really shook the community.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Okay, I'm picturing it, small town, river running through it. Yeah,
- 1:56and then this just happens right in the middle of
- 1:57it all. Yeah, okay, So what do we know about
- 2:01the night that Look disappeared? Like what happened leading up
- 2:04to it.
- 2:05Speaker 2: So Luke had had an argument with his father earlier
- 2:08that evening and he'd gone to his room. Later when
- 2:11the family went to check on him, he was gone,
- 2:14just gone gone. His window was open, but there were
- 2:17no signs of forced entry or struggle, so.
- 2:20Speaker 1: No sign of anything. He just kind of vanished, like he.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Just vanished into thin air, which adds to the mystery.
- 2:26And his shoe was found in the bedroom. Okay, and
- 2:29we know from reports that he only owned one pair,
- 2:32so he didn't.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Walk out, right, Nobody walks out on a stormy night
- 2:35with just one shoe, one shoe, unless it's Cinderella.
- 2:38Speaker 2: I guess right. It's those little details, you know, the shoe,
- 2:41the window, the no signs of a struggle. That's what
- 2:44really makes you go hmm right. It's these inconsistencies that
- 2:48really make this case so fascinating and frustrating at.
- 2:52Speaker 1: The same time. So I'm guessing this is where the theory's
- 2:55come in.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got four main theories. Ok they were going
- 2:58to unpack, each with its own kind of twists and turn.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Okay, a lamb on me. Where do we start.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Let's start with the one that immediately gripped the community,
- 3:05right abduction. There was a report of a suspicious yellow
- 3:10car scene parked near the park that night. A witness,
- 3:14Bill Wilson, he was one of the first officers on
- 3:16the scene, noted a car park there with its lights off.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Okay, So, just to be clear, for like a listener,
- 3:23yellow car maybe seems random. But why is that something
- 3:27the police would focus on?
- 3:28Speaker 2: Well, vehicles play a big part in a lot of
- 3:30abduction cases.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:31Speaker 2: Yeah, and remember Looks path to the high school that night,
- 3:35where his brother was playing basketball, would have taken him
- 3:38right past that park.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Okay. So it's not just a random yellow car, right,
- 3:41it's a yellow car that could be linked to Looks last.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Known movements exactly.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Okay, spooky.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely adds another layer to it.
- 3:49Speaker 1: All right, So abduction is number one. What else?
- 3:51Speaker 2: The second theory, and this is one that's really sensitive,
- 3:55involves the possibility of parental involvement.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Ooh, that's heavy. Okay, So what led investigators down that path?
- 4:03Speaker 2: Well, there were rumors circulating in the community, and there
- 4:06were some witness accounts that cast doubt on Luke's father Boolong.
- 4:11It's important to note that he did pass a light
- 4:14detector test.
- 4:15Speaker 1: But there's always a butt, right, right.
- 4:17Speaker 2: There was a counselor's report Allegedly Luke's younger brother, Taoluk
- 4:22told the counselor that his father had killed Luke.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, but before we jumped to any conclusions, wasn't
- 4:29there a language barrier with the family. Could that have
- 4:33played a role in how this information was interpreted?
- 4:36Speaker 2: You're hitting on a really crucial point, and that is
- 4:38that the communication with the family was reportedly difficult, and
- 4:42this undoubtedly added to the complexity of the investigation.
- 4:45Speaker 1: I can imagine that must have been so frustrating, you know,
- 4:48for everybody involved, for the family, for.
- 4:50Speaker 2: The investigator, absolutely trying to piece together a story when
- 4:53you can't understand each other. It's like solving a puzzle
- 4:55with missing pieces. You just you can't get a clear picture.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Right. Okay, so we've got abduction, possible parental involvement. What
- 5:03are the other two theories?
- 5:05Speaker 2: Well, given that look lives so close to the Willapa River,
- 5:08accidental drowning was a possibility, especially considering the stormy weather.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Okay, but didn't you say they searched the river.
- 5:15Speaker 2: Yes, they did extensively, but some factors do support this theory.
- 5:20We know Luke couldn't swim and he was afraid of water. Yeah,
- 5:24so it makes sense.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I mean that definitely adds a layer of
- 5:28plausibility there. But if he fell in, wouldn't they have
- 5:31found his body?
- 5:32Speaker 2: Well that's where it gets complicated. Bodies typically resurface in
- 5:36the Willipa River.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Okay.
- 5:37Speaker 2: The fact that his was never recovered really just adds
- 5:40to the mystery.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got possible abduction, We've got parental involvement,
- 5:45We've got this like unsettling possibility of accidental drowning. What's
- 5:50the last one?
- 5:51Speaker 2: The last theory, and this one was considered less likely
- 5:53by investigators, is that Look ran away?
- 5:56Speaker 1: But you said he left without his shoes. Yeah, on
- 5:59a dormy night. Well it doesn't really sound planned, does it.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Yeah, and he didn't pack anything. He left behind his
- 6:04coin collection.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Yeah, things a kid would normally take if they were
- 6:08running away.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Right, it doesn't add up unless there.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Was something going on at school or at home that
- 6:13would make you want to run away. I don't know.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Well, there is one detail, and it's a real heart tugger.
- 6:18Look loved Valentine's Day. He was actually planning on buying
- 6:23cards for his entire class. Oh does that sound like
- 6:27a kid who's going to run away right before?
- 6:29Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a detail that sticks with you. It does
- 6:31make you think. Okay, so you've got these four possible scenarios,
- 6:34each with its own set of strengths and weaknesses, but
- 6:37none of them really seem to fully explain what happens exactly.
- 6:41So what happens next? Do the police have any leads,
- 6:44any breakthroughs.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Unfortunately, despite their best efforts, the investigations stalled, leads dried up,
- 6:51and no conclusive evidence ever surfaced.
- 6:54Speaker 1: So the family's just left with no answers.
- 6:55Speaker 2: It's heartbreaking. The Fiande family, the police, the entire community
- 6:59all left grappling with this devastating mystery. The case went cold,
- 7:05but the questions lingered.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to imagine that anguish. Yeah, like not knowing,
- 7:11just that weight of uncertainty hanging over them all those years.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Yeah, and it brings up something we touched on earlier,
- 7:16that communication barrier. Right, imagine that you can't understand or
- 7:21be understood by the people who are trying to help
- 7:24you find your kid. I mean, it's just another layer
- 7:26of heartbreak on top of an already tragic situation.
- 7:29Speaker 1: It really is. You know, reading through these articles, it
- 7:31seems like a lot of the focus, especially early on,
- 7:35was on Luke's father. Yeah, it seemed like a lot
- 7:37of suspicion was kind of revolving around him.
- 7:40Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, it points to a bigger issue
- 7:44that we see in missing persons cases. Especially when you've
- 7:46got these cultural differences, it's so easy for misunderstandings to happen,
- 7:51and those misunderstandings they can get amplified in the media
- 7:54and in the community.
- 7:55Speaker 1: So those ripple effect right one, one little miscommunication can
- 7:59lead to like a wave of suspicion and speculation exactly.
- 8:04Speaker 2: And in a small town like Raymond, where everybody knows everybody,
- 8:07those ripples they're felt even more strongly. You know, this family,
- 8:12they're already dealing with the pain of losing your son,
- 8:15and then to have that compounded by like suspicion and
- 8:18scrutiny from their community. I mean, it's just awful.
- 8:21Speaker 1: It makes you wonder if that pressure, that feeling of
- 8:24constantly being watched and judged, maybe it prevented people from
- 8:28coming forward with information. Oh absolutely, maybe they were afraid
- 8:31of saying the wrong thing, being misunderstood, or or even
- 8:34like ostracized.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Yeah, fear and mistrust, those are really powerful things, and
- 8:39they can really impact an investigation. You know, people hesitate
- 8:42to share what they know, even if it's something that
- 8:44could be the key to solving the case.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Right, So we've talked about the family, the community, what
- 8:49about the police, or to make any mistakes, miss any opportunities.
- 8:53I mean, it's easy to look back and second guess.
- 8:56Speaker 2: But yeah, hindsight's always twenty twenty, right, But there's some
- 9:00things that looking back you think, hmm, maybe it could
- 9:03have been handled differently. The language barrier, for instance, I mean,
- 9:06having a lotion speaker from the beginning, someone who could
- 9:09build that rapport with the family and just ensure that
- 9:12the communication was clear. I mean that could make a
- 9:15huge difference.
- 9:15Speaker 1: It's like trying to build a house on like a
- 9:18shaky foundation. Yeah, Now, if you don't have that solid communication,
- 9:22the whole thing becomes unstable.
- 9:23Speaker 2: Exactly, and that instability can impact everything, you know, how
- 9:27information is gathered, you know, building trust with witnesses, even
- 9:32just interpreting evidence.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Right, right, and speaking of evidence, let's go back to
- 9:36those four theories. Okay, we've got abduction, we've got parental involvement,
- 9:41accidental drowning, and running away. But as we said, none
- 9:48of them really fit perfectly. No, each one's got a
- 9:51crack in it.
- 9:51Speaker 2: Well, that's how it is with these complicated cases. You
- 9:53have these pieces, these clues, but they just don't quite
- 9:56form a whole picture. And the longer it goes on,
- 10:00the more those pieces kind of fade. You know.
- 10:03Speaker 1: It's almost like time itself becomes part of the mystery. Yeah,
- 10:06like blurring the lines between what we know and what
- 10:09we think we know. Memories get hazy, witnesses might misremember details,
- 10:14evidence can disappear. It's a mess.
- 10:16Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like this constant battle against the truth, just eroding. Right,
- 10:22And that's one of the toughest things about cold cases.
- 10:25Speaker 1: So where does that leave us. We've got all these theories,
- 10:29all these possibilities, but how do we make sense of it?
- 10:33Speaker 2: Well, despite all the challenges, it's important to remember that
- 10:35even things that seem small or insignificant, they can be
- 10:39incredibly valuable. Sometimes it's the overlooked stuff that holds the
- 10:43key to the truth.
- 10:44Speaker 1: So we got to look closely at everything, even the
- 10:46stuff that seems irrelevant exactly.
- 10:48Speaker 2: And that's what we're trying to do with these deep dives.
- 10:50Revisit the material, examine the evidence, look at the theories,
- 10:53and hopefully put together a better picture of what could
- 10:57have happened.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it. Let's look at each of the
- 11:00those theories individually, see what holds up, what falls apart.
- 11:04We've already talked about the yellow car, we talked about
- 11:06the suscussion surrounding Luke's father, But what about drowning. Okay,
- 11:10what evidence is there to support that theory.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Well, like we said, look, couldn't swim, right, he was
- 11:17afraid of water. And the fact that his body was
- 11:20never found in the river, that's important too.
- 11:22Speaker 1: You said bodies usually resurface.
- 11:24Speaker 2: They do, but there are exceptions, okay, like what, Well,
- 11:27a body could get snagged on something underwater, you know,
- 11:31like a branch or some other object. Oh okay, it
- 11:34might not come back up, or you know, if the
- 11:36currents are strong, especially with the storm, the body could
- 11:40have been swept downstream.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Okay, So even though they searched, it's possible he drowned
- 11:45and they just didn't find him.
- 11:47Speaker 2: Exactly, And There's one more thing that makes this theory
- 11:50a little more complicated. The eyewitness account.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Wait, the eyewitness Yeah you mean Debbie Boone, the woman
- 11:57who said she saw a look running across the bridge.
- 12:00How does that fit in with the drowning theory.
- 12:01Speaker 2: Well, her account, if it's accurate, puts look heading towards
- 12:06town just minutes before he disappeared. And remember that bridge
- 12:10is the only way to get from Riverdale, where the
- 12:13Fiangays lived, into Raymond.
- 12:16Speaker 1: So if he was on that bridge, he had to
- 12:18be going somewhere specific.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Yeah, and that raises more questions. Where was he going,
- 12:23who was he going to meet? And how did he
- 12:25just vanish after being seen on the bridge.
- 12:29Speaker 1: It's like this whole other path opens up. We're focused
- 12:31on the river, and now this eyewitness account takes us
- 12:34somewhere else.
- 12:35Speaker 2: Right, It's a really important detail.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So where could he have been going that night?
- 12:40Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 12:41Speaker 1: Were there any places he frequented? Yeah? Any friends he
- 12:45could have been meeting up with.
- 12:46Speaker 2: There are a few places that come up. He could
- 12:48have been going to the high school where his brother
- 12:50was playing basketball.
- 12:51Speaker 1: So maybe he changed his mind decided to go to
- 12:53the game. After all, even after the argument.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Possibly, or he could have been going to the Willappa Hotel. Okay,
- 13:00at the time, it housed a pretty large Lio Ocean
- 13:02and Cambodian community, so it might have felt familiar to him,
- 13:06you know, maybe a little safer.
- 13:08Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. If he was feeling scared or upset,
- 13:11maybe he wanted to go to a place that reminded
- 13:13him of home.
- 13:14Speaker 2: Yeah. And there's also the possibility that he was going
- 13:16to his friend MoU's house. They were close, and it's
- 13:19possible he might have felt safe there.
- 13:20Speaker 1: But here's the thing that I don't get. If he
- 13:23was going to any of those places, the high school,
- 13:26the hotel, his friend's house, why wouldn't he have made it.
- 13:30Why hasn't anybody come forward to say they saw him there?
- 13:33Speaker 2: That is the question, the one that investigators have been
- 13:36trying to answer for years. And there's another possibility, and
- 13:39this one's pretty interesting. Okay, hit me, what if he
- 13:43wasn't going to meet someone he knew? Okay, what if
- 13:47he was lured.
- 13:48Speaker 1: There, lurd like by someone in that yellow car.
- 13:51Speaker 2: It's definitely a chilling thought. Yeah, but it's something we
- 13:54can't rule out. Maybe someone gained his trust, you know,
- 13:58by pretending to be friendly or offering him something, which
- 14:01brings us right back to that yellow car.
- 14:03Speaker 1: Yeah, like a ghost that just keeps popping up. It's there,
- 14:07then it's not. We have a witness who saw it,
- 14:09but that's it. No license plate, no description to the driver.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Ugh, I know. It's so frustrating, and it just shows
- 14:16how important even the tiniest details are. If someone had
- 14:20noticed anything else about that car, a dent, a sticker, anything, yeah,
- 14:25it could have been a huge break in the case.
- 14:27Speaker 1: It makes you think about all those what ifs, that
- 14:29hot cold cases. Yeah, what if somebody had spoken up?
- 14:32What if they'd noticed a tiny detail and said something.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Those missed opportunities, they can really make it hard to
- 14:38solve these cases, and it shows why public awareness is
- 14:42so important. Sometimes the key to cracking one of these
- 14:45cases isn't with the investigators, right, it's with everyday people
- 14:49and their memories and what they saw.
- 14:51Speaker 1: So what you're saying is somebody out there could be
- 14:53sitting on a crucial piece of information.
- 14:55Speaker 2: Exactly, and they might not even realize it. And that's
- 14:57why it's so important to keep these cases in the
- 14:59p public eye. To remind people that even after all
- 15:03these years, a tiny detail can still make a difference.
- 15:06Speaker 1: It's like we're all detectives in a way, piecing together
- 15:10the fragments of Luke's story, hoping to find the missing
- 15:13piece that makes it all make sense.
- 15:15Speaker 2: Yeah, you put it perfectly. It's a collective effort, this
- 15:18search for truth and justice that goes beyond time and
- 15:21all that.
- 15:21Speaker 1: It's crazy to think someone listening right now could hold
- 15:24the key to all of this. They might not even
- 15:26know it.
- 15:26Speaker 2: You know, it happens, really does. A little memory, a detail,
- 15:30something you just kind of dismissed at the time, could
- 15:32be crucial.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you're out there and anything anything it
- 15:37all comes to mind about look or that night February sixth,
- 15:41nineteen ninety six in Raymond, Washington, don't hesitate contact the authorities.
- 15:46Speaker 2: No detail is too small. Could be something you saw,
- 15:48something you heard, even just like a gut feeling you had,
- 15:51if something felt off, it could be important.
- 15:54Speaker 1: It's so easy to get caught up in the theories and
- 15:55the evidence and all that, but this is about a
- 15:57real person, a kid who vanished, and his family has
- 16:01been living with this this horrible not knowing for decades.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Yeah, and it makes you think about the real cost
- 16:08of these mysteries, you know, the human cost. The Fiande
- 16:12family deserves answers.
- 16:13Speaker 1: They do. And speaking of the family, it's so sad
- 16:17that recent efforts to kind of revisit the case have
- 16:21been hit by more loss. Look's parents and his younger brother, Robert,
- 16:26they've all passed away.
- 16:28Speaker 2: It's it's heartbreaking, it really is, how much time has passed.
- 16:31But even though they're gone, their need for answers that
- 16:34doesn't go away. The case is still open. There's always
- 16:37hope that something new will turn up, and.
- 16:39Speaker 1: That's where organizations like the National Center for Missing and
- 16:41Exploited Children and CMAC come in. They've looked at the
- 16:45case and they've made recommendations like reinterviewing family members, but
- 16:49with a lie she speaker this time.
- 16:51Speaker 2: Yeah, which is a good step. Hopefully it leads to something.
- 16:54You know, even if we can't bring Look back, maybe
- 16:56we can bring some peace to those he left behind,
- 16:58some closure.
- 16:59Speaker 1: You know. I keep coming back to that detail about
- 17:01Look loving Valentine's Day. It's such a clear picture, right,
- 17:04just a normal kid excited for a holiday, and then
- 17:07he's just gone.
- 17:08Speaker 2: It's those little things, those details, that make these cases
- 17:11hit home. Reminds you that behind all the headlines and theories,
- 17:15there's a person, a life, and it just stops.
- 17:19Speaker 1: It does makes you wonder what would he be doing now?
- 17:23What would his life be like if that night had
- 17:25never happened.
- 17:27Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a question we probably won't ever get an
- 17:29answer to, but we keep his story alive. We keep looking.
- 17:33Speaker 1: That's what it's all about, right, That's what these deep
- 17:36dives are for exploring, sifting through the evidence, and never
- 17:40giving up hope, even when it seems like there's nowhere left.
- 17:43Speaker 2: To look exactly. We might never know for sure what
- 17:47happened to Look, but we can keep asking the questions,
- 17:50learn from what happened, and keep fighting for those who
- 17:52have vanished.
- 17:53Speaker 1: So as we wrap up, we'll leave you with this,
- 17:55what do you think happened to Look? Which scenario feels
- 17:58right to you?
- 18:00Speaker 2: Have any information, even if it seems small, Please reach
- 18:02out to the Raymond Police Department. It could be the
- 18:05missing piece, the thing that finally closes this case.
- 18:08Speaker 1: Look's story is a powerful reminder that every missing person matters.
- 18:12They all deserve our attention, our empathy, let's keep talking
- 18:16about them, keep the hope alive, never forget