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News Update - Taylor Frankie Paul Gets Restraining Order Granted, And DCFS Gets Involved! · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. I am
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  Speaker 2: here today with my friend Curista sutter Hey and we
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  Speaker 2: are doing basically Frankie Friday.
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  Speaker 3: It is another big week.
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  Speaker 2: Of Taylor Frankie Paul headlines. Now, are the DCFS is involved?
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  Speaker 2: The Department of Child and Family Services. I know you're
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  Speaker 2: like DCFS, What does that am stand for? Again?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's like child Services.
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  Speaker 2: But okay, so I'm sure our wonderful producer Heather will
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  Speaker 2: be popping in since I feel like she is our
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul expert.
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  Speaker 3: She just knows so many things.
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  Speaker 2: But Trista, what's your overall take right now on what's
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  Speaker 2: going on with this poor situation?
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  Speaker 4: I just never it never ends, and I just feel
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  Speaker 4: bad for all parties, especially the kids, especially Taylor. I
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  Speaker 4: I don't necessarily have any love lost for these guys, who,
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  Speaker 4: it seems like, just continue to send out information into
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  Speaker 4: the world exactly poke and manipulate, and I'm just not
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  Speaker 4: a fan. I obviously number one priority is the kids.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, reading that article, the TMZ article, it's
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  Speaker 4: about d DCSF and or did I say it right?
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  Speaker 4: D CFS, I got wrong, and I just it It
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  Speaker 4: doesn't I agree with her lawyers. It doesn't show the
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  Speaker 4: full picture. Like all they're doing is showing, like you know,
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  Speaker 4: pulling whatever they can, whatever quotes that they can from
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  Speaker 4: Taylor to make her look bad. And obviously she said
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  Speaker 4: some things, but I also feel like in today's day
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  Speaker 4: and age, like she said something like my life coach
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  Speaker 4: is the only one keeping me alive right now. And
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  Speaker 4: I feel like so many times in our society, when
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  Speaker 4: do you say, like, oh my god, I could strangle
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  Speaker 4: my child right now. You know, obviously you don't mean it.
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  Speaker 4: It's the way our society, like we hyperbolate whatever the
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  Speaker 4: word is, you know. And I feel like she probably
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  Speaker 4: was saying she has been a godsend to me? Should
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  Speaker 4: she have said she has been a godsend to me
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  Speaker 4: instead of she's the only one keeping me alive right now?
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  Speaker 4: So that record'sren't going out, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Look at the difference in the in how those statements
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  Speaker 2: could be constructed, like, you know, interpreted, But that's also
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  Speaker 2: they mean kind of the same thing totally.
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  Speaker 4: So I feel like, yes, the way that things are
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  Speaker 4: being said, I don't think we're getting the whole picture,
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  Speaker 4: and it's so frustrating to me and it's not my life.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's get into what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: So what Trista is referring to is that TMZ had
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  Speaker 2: this breaking news this week where there was a petition
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  Speaker 2: filed by Utah's Child Services, which, to me, this would
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  Speaker 2: be when I was most scared if I were Taylor,
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  Speaker 2: because now like the government is getting into her family
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  Speaker 2: life and it's like, Okay, now I'm really scared. Now
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  Speaker 2: I don't have to deal with just like this stupid
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  Speaker 2: X of mine and like in the court arguing with him,
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  Speaker 2: but like.
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  Speaker 3: The actual state.
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  Speaker 2: So the agency is asking a juvenile court to find
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  Speaker 2: Taylor's three children. They're asking the court to find Taylor's
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  Speaker 2: three children have been abused, neglected, or dependent. Does that
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  Speaker 2: mean they have to go in search of this they
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  Speaker 2: need to go search for evidence of this?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I think they are using the evidence that was at
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  Speaker 4: the May home visit.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so there's a May home visit. This is what happened.
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  Speaker 2: The Children's Services came to her house in May and
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  Speaker 2: her life coach Carrie was said, she said, this is Carrie.
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  Speaker 4: No, Taylor said about Carrie.
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  Speaker 3: This is what Taylor said about Carrie.
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  Speaker 4: Taylor told DCFS her life coach was the only reason
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  Speaker 4: she was still alive, and she wanted Carrie to conduct
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  Speaker 4: the assessments.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I was reading that wrong. Okay, Interesting, Carrie is
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  Speaker 2: the only reason that she's alive. Well, okay, yes, again
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  Speaker 2: that's definitely a hyperbole, but will continue. In the documents,
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  Speaker 2: they're claiming that Taylor said that Carrie wasn't qualified. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so yes, the agency said car is not qualified to
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  Speaker 2: do these assessments. So then they said in the same visit,
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  Speaker 2: the petition says that Taylor got upset reading social media
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  Speaker 2: messages and stormed out of the house.
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  Speaker 3: Girl, what the hell?
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  Speaker 2: Why are you reading social media content in front of
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  Speaker 2: the Department of Children and Family Services and you couldn't
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  Speaker 2: keep your together enough to you stormed out of the house.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, who knows if she was in another room
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  Speaker 4: and like they were talking to the kids or something,
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  Speaker 4: who knows. But still she shouldn't be reading messages. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we all know who live in the world of social media,
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  Speaker 4: especially when she is hitting the fan to stay away
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  Speaker 4: because people are just freaking mean and they don't have
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  Speaker 4: any filter and they're just gonna say what they want
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  Speaker 4: to say, but they don't know you, so just it. Definitely,
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  Speaker 4: that would be that would be the first tip. I
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  Speaker 4: actually was watching Jones Stories yesterday, I or maybe she
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  Speaker 4: did a reel or something, and she was talking about
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  Speaker 4: the first piece of advice she got when she said
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  Speaker 4: she was going to be the bachelorette was from Lisa
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  Speaker 4: vander Pump and she was like, stay off social media.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's true, it's not good for anybody.
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  Speaker 2: No, definitely not, but Taylor keeps doing it. This is interesting.
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  Speaker 2: The agency claims that she told caseworkers she wasn't suicidal,
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  Speaker 2: but they should know who killed her if she ends
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  Speaker 2: up dead, because she felt no one believes her.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's so heavy.
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  Speaker 2: It's so heavy it is, and we know who she's
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  Speaker 2: referring to, well obviously say it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The filing also cites that Taylor's twenty twenty three aggravated
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  Speaker 2: assault plea the domestic assault that we all saw in
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  Speaker 2: the video.
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  Speaker 3: It says, you know that Indy their daughter or her daughter.
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  Speaker 2: Was present, and it further alleges that Indy changes Ever's diaper.
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  Speaker 3: That's the that's the little son.
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  Speaker 2: How old is Indy, Well, she's like eight, prepares his
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  Speaker 2: bottle and often hears Taylor in Dakota fighting, which makes
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  Speaker 2: her sad. Okay, I don't think that an eight year
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  Speaker 2: old changing the diaper or preparing his bottle should necessarily
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  Speaker 2: be a red flag unless.
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  Speaker 4: Thousand percent sorry, I would be like, yes, please can
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  Speaker 4: you help? Mom? Like it like there I'm saying that
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  Speaker 4: that is a horrible thing if and she probably wants
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  Speaker 4: to help, like as a big sister, She's like, I
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  Speaker 4: want to help. Like I would have been that way
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  Speaker 4: if I had had siblings, I would have been like, Mom,
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  Speaker 4: what can I do?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 4: How can I help? So no, I feel like that whatever,
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  Speaker 4: throw that that out the window. The part that stands
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  Speaker 4: out to me is the part about her and Dakota fighting. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: she's going to be fast if her parents are fighting. Anyone,
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  Speaker 4: any child is going to be affected by their parents fighting.
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  Speaker 4: So yes, that is very much so. But why isn't
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  Speaker 4: this being held against Dakota. Yeah, Taylor is not the
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  Speaker 4: only one fighting. I feel like it's got to be.
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  Speaker 4: It's a two way street. So anyway, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So then, ever, also sought comfort from Taylor's sister and
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  Speaker 2: nanny during the home visits, and that Taylor became escalated
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  Speaker 2: and disregulated when confronted about her progress. The petition also
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  Speaker 2: alleges that Taylor's therapist told them the agency that she
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  Speaker 2: had not begun meaningful treatment and did not seem invested
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  Speaker 2: in the program and appeared to be attending therapy because
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  Speaker 2: she felt forced to do so. This sounds like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like that sounds like something. I feel like she isn't
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  Speaker 2: fully invested in therapy right now, because I think she
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  Speaker 2: would have gone off the phone, and like she would
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  Speaker 2: have stayed at that rehab center for more than forty
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  Speaker 2: eight hours. A source connected to Taylor is telling TMC
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  Speaker 2: that the fact that this leaked speaks volumes on its
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  Speaker 2: own juvenile court is private to protect the children's interests.
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  Speaker 2: Leaking misinformation does the exact opposite. Someone is clearly acting
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  Speaker 2: in their own interests, not the child's, and then based
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  Speaker 2: on in incomplete information, it leaves dc fs's documented concerns
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  Speaker 2: about the other side, huh, the other side which you
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  Speaker 2: were just saying, which are on record in district court
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  Speaker 2: and law enforcement in the juvenile court will weigh all
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  Speaker 2: that in full. All right, So, yeah, Dakota and where
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  Speaker 2: his DCFS leaks exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Of his visitation.
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  Speaker 2: Seriously, I think that they're both got bad problems.
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  Speaker 4: She just posted an instagram on her feed. I think
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  Speaker 4: this week, maybe a couple of days ago, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know where someone was driving by our house. And then,
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  Speaker 4: as you'll get into it, she was granted a restraining
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  Speaker 4: order for him. So anyway, we'll get into that in
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  Speaker 4: a second. But I just don't like Taylor.
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  Speaker 2: If you have the dc FS in your home, why
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  Speaker 2: are you If you're not able to stay on your.
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  Speaker 3: Best behavior for those few hours? That kind of freaks
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  Speaker 3: me out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean she's got a lot going on, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and I feel like any of us would be really
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  Speaker 4: super stressed out and dis regulated. I think she, obviously,
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  Speaker 4: like we've been staying, needs to stay away from social media.
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  Speaker 4: If you know, it's hard to put yourself in someone's
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  Speaker 4: shoes that you've never like, I've never had an experience
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  Speaker 4: with a toxic relationship like this.
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  Speaker 2: And wait not to cut you off, but honestly, it's
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  Speaker 2: like she's an addict and social media is her drug.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean all of us. I like, who else
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  Speaker 4: is addicted to social media?
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  Speaker 3: I am. I'm scared of myself sometimes, like.
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  Speaker 2: Totally, I'm like, I don't want to do it. It's
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  Speaker 2: like I want to watch a TV show in my
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  Speaker 2: time where I'm actually alone. But then I just keep
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  Speaker 2: doing it and keep doing it. I'm like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta go to bed now. You can't watch your
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  Speaker 2: TV show because you just couldn't.
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  Speaker 4: Totally stop and literally throw menopause in the mix. Because
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  Speaker 4: I will go onto Instagram to find something, something very specific,
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  Speaker 4: and then of course it's like just scroll and scroll,
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  Speaker 4: and then fifteen thirty minutes later, I'm like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 4: well the heck was I just doing?
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  Speaker 3: So that's my day to day. It's so bad.
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  Speaker 4: It's so bad. So I feel like she is one
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  Speaker 4: of us. We are one and the same. We are
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  Speaker 4: so many of us are addicted to our phones and
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  Speaker 4: social media. And so I don't judge her for that,
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  Speaker 4: because how can I judge when I'm the same person.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel like, in this situation, situation, it would
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  Speaker 4: definitely be a good idea for her to remove herself
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  Speaker 4: from social media for the time being.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the.
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  Speaker 2: Next headline is Taylor Frankie Paul's lawyers react to family
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  Speaker 2: services concerns about her parenting. So her lawyer team has
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  Speaker 2: responded after child welfare officials raised these concerns about the
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  Speaker 2: three kids. According to the legal documents that were published
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  Speaker 2: by TMC on Wednesday, the DCFS filed a petition asking
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  Speaker 2: for juvenile court to find her three children. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we were just saying this that, like, are they abused,
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  Speaker 2: neglected or dependent?
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  Speaker 4: I also let me ask a question, what does the
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  Speaker 4: dependent part mean?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm wondering if that means they're almost dependent on themselves
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  Speaker 2: for survival. I think is that what are alluding to
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  Speaker 2: with the creation of like the bottle of ever changing? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, because I'm like, all children are dependent.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it's literally something you fill out on your taxes,
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  Speaker 4: like are do you have dependents? Yes? I have dependence.
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  Speaker 4: They're they're eighteen or.
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  Speaker 2: Like they have to they are being they're dependent. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 4: Isn't that weird?
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  Speaker 3: That is that is weird?
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  Speaker 4: But if it is a neglected part, clearly we get it.
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  Speaker 4: But it says neglected or dependent, But.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good or dependent?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know what dependent means.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, go ahead, Okay, So the filming asked the judge
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  Speaker 2: to the filing, asked the judge to order protective supervision services,
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  Speaker 2: appoint and guardian to represent the children, and issue additional
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  Speaker 2: orders deemed to be in their best interests. And TMZ
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  Speaker 2: is also saying that once this was filed, they requested
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  Speaker 2: and expedited hearing.
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  Speaker 4: I think this is US weekly. Isn't this US Weekly?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's US weekly, like repeating stuff I think from TMZ.
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  Speaker 2: In response to the news of the filing, Taylor's legal
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  Speaker 2: team shared this with US Weekly. See they don't want
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  Speaker 2: to talk to TMZ. They don't want to talk to
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  Speaker 2: TMC totally.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, why would you. Yeah, they're doing her dirty.
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  Speaker 2: It was recently decided that the ongoing custody actions would
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  Speaker 2: be best suited for juvenile court, a common step for
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  Speaker 2: families engaged in highly contentious, complex custody matters. Taylor is
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  Speaker 2: not deterred by this transition. She welcomes the added structure
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  Speaker 2: and oversight it provides, and looks forward to continuing her
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  Speaker 2: progress towards normalizing custody and becoming the healthiest version of herself.
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  Speaker 2: Taylor remains fully committed to doing whatever necessary to reach
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  Speaker 2: that goal and will not be swayed from it. Taylor
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  Speaker 2: appreciates the professionalism of the DCFS and its representatives.
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  Speaker 4: Are you laughing because do I hear one of the
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  Speaker 4: kids in the background, like doing one of those No,
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  Speaker 4: they're just screaming instrument.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so they're just they're just being loud. I was laughing.
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  Speaker 2: I was laughing at the fact that, like, it's very
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  Speaker 2: much a suck upy response, But what else are you
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  Speaker 2: gonna do?
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  Speaker 3: That's what you gotta say.
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  Speaker 4: Totally. And she.
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  Speaker 2: Also posted on Instagram this week, like last week, this
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  Speaker 2: week that today was extremely difficult, while there has been
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  Speaker 2: at least twelve plus people here trying to make it harder.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you God for revealing them. And they all and
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  Speaker 2: I'm revealing them all want to be nothing. I guess
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  Speaker 2: she means I want to be nothing like them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they bully. I defend myself, not the same. Pay attention
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  Speaker 2: to how this plays out, and I trust. So that
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  Speaker 2: goes into the final one. The final headline, which is
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Taylor is granted restraining order against Dakota Mortenson's roommates and
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  Speaker 2: best friends and Crew eaten, so Heather actually put Crew
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  Speaker 2: on a reality show. This guy is also a little
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  Speaker 2: bit fame hungry. And not to call us a casting director,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: she's a casting director and she put him on one
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  Speaker 2: of the dating shows a few years ago. It's just
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  Speaker 2: interesting that the CODA would have like another like reality
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  Speaker 2: personality as a roommate and also is the person that
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  Speaker 2: is really.
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  Speaker 3: Egging Taylor on in all of this, and now the
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  Speaker 3: order has been signed for him to stop getting close
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  Speaker 3: to her.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting though, because her son is there in their
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  Speaker 2: house all the time because you know, I know, so
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  Speaker 2: like he can't get close to well, we all know
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  Speaker 2: that Taylor can't come close to that house. So I
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  Speaker 2: guess it doesn't really make make much difference.
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  Speaker 3: She can't do anything.
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  Speaker 2: She could still have her child around this guy Crew
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  Speaker 2: all the time.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I mean. Can you imagine filing a restraining
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  Speaker 4: order against someone who lives with your baby daddy and
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  Speaker 4: is around your kids all the time like that is
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  Speaker 4: I can't even fathom, like how I would feel about
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  Speaker 4: the fact that this guy is essentially they said the
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  Speaker 4: order of protection is for civil stalking, so he has
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  Speaker 4: a restraining order against himself for stalking, and yet he
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  Speaker 4: is around her children all the time like that alone,
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  Speaker 4: right there, Just take that little tidbit, I would be
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: going bananas so crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they keep putting her in these situations
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  Speaker 2: to go more and more crazy. I feel like I
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen this, honestly since Britney Spears, like since right me,
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  Speaker 2: and like the two thousand and six era, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the shaving the head era where it's just like she
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  Speaker 2: couldn't stop being provoked. And I feel like she would
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: say that Federal Line may have had a part in that,
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  Speaker 2: but a lot of it had to do with paparazzi
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  Speaker 2: and the media just never ever leaving her alone totally.
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  Speaker 2: And I just feel like she's being really provoked by
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  Speaker 2: so many people right now. So like even if she
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  Speaker 2: is mentally unhealthy, which she like basically admits that she is,
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  Speaker 2: they just keep putting her in her situations to react,
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  Speaker 2: right right.
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  Speaker 4: They just want to poke the bear, and she's the
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  Speaker 4: bear in this situation, and I just think it's too bad.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's only so much that one person can handle.
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  Speaker 4: And I feel like, you know, before we got on
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  Speaker 4: today and started recording, we were talking about how Taylor.
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  Speaker 4: We feel like in you know, neither of us nor
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  Speaker 4: had there are experts in psychology, so listen, we're this
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  Speaker 4: is just our opinion. But in terms of social media
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  Speaker 4: and just wanting to as a mom protect your children,
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  Speaker 4: I just I feel like just prioritizing getting away from
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  Speaker 4: the world of social media and focusing on your mental
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  Speaker 4: health and that's it, you know, taking all other things
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  Speaker 4: out of the picture, and just like either going to
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: retreat or I don't even know what that looks like.
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  Speaker 4: But because her situation is so like volatile with these guys,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know what that looks like, but I do. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: I just want a wrapper in a big hug, and
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  Speaker 4: You're like, I just want to wrap her up, and
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  Speaker 4: I just want to be like, Okay, I'm putting you
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  Speaker 4: on screen time. We're not going to be on our
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  Speaker 4: phone anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, listen, Taylor, we can go to Hawaii
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: in a wonderful retruth center exactly, and they're going to
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: take away your phone.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: But like you get to lie on the beach and
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: you get to it's gonna be such an expensive resort.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be a resort, Okay, and.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: You have to put everything that you would put on
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: social media in a journal.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Right exactly.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: And I think she actually has posted about how much
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: she journals, so I know she does that, but I
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: feel like it's just I don't know, it's it's such
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: a volatile situation, it seems like, and I don't know
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: if the reason that she hasn't is because she doesn't
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: feel like she can be like away from her kids
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: for that long. But maybe in the long run, you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: like maybe in the long run, it would allow her
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: to have more time with her because she would think
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: proving to a judge that she's doing the right stuff.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what I was saying earlier, Like, I
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: know that the time away sounds like a lot, but
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: it'll make up for it in the future, because if not,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: she's going to keep having these restrictions on the amount
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: of times she can be with her kids.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Anyway, she still even can't be with them a ton.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: And in the case in the case, I get it.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I get it that people.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Even if it's once every two weeks or something like,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you just live for that that time you
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: were counting down the days, like my my parents were divorced,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: and it wasn't volatile, but they were divorced. And the
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: judge said, I had to go be with my dad
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: every other weekend, and please, I was a teenager. I
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: did not want anything to do with going to this
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: little like firm place that we had and hunting and
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: fishing and like what my dad wanted to do. I
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: just wanted to be with my friends. And I'm sure
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: he was like counting down the days to be able
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: to spend time with his daughter.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: And that makes me cry.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: That's hardbreak, it's hard. So I feel like I'm sure
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: she even though it's a limited amount of time, that
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: time is so precious. I'm sure to her that she
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: probably doesn't want to go anywhere because if there's an
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: off chance that she can see her kids, she wants
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: to be there to be able to see them.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I totally totally get it. It's easier
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: said than done. Here. I am saying, go into the.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Hawaii, and then people will ask me like will you
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: do this show or that show? I'll just say as traders,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: like I'm not asked being asked to do traders, but
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: people are always asking me like would I do traders,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, I hear that you have to
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: be away for your kids from like a month. Yeah,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and that the the phone time is very limited. It's
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: not like one of those reality shows where you can
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: like pop in an out off your phone pretty frequently
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: throughout the day.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, and that really prevents me from saying
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: that I feel like I could do it totally. Yeah.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: So I mean that is that comparison is absolutely.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Not bar retailer, but it's like, oh, huge show, big.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Money from it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Like, ah, I don't know if I can do it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because you would miss your children. So I know
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: she misses her kids. You know, I've met her once
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: and I reach out on social when she posts stuff
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: and just try to send you know, positivity her way.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: So I don't It's not like I've spent a lot
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: of time with her. But if I do know anything,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: I know that she loves being a mom and it
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: would be really brutal to be separated from your kids.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, oh so sad, it's all sucky.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Wow, we are, you know, wishing her the best and hopefully.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: We figure out a way out of this mess.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Does the show air? What do you think, do you
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: think it's gonna air?
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: No? I thought we were over this.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: No, I think this is done. This has done sloppy.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: But remember a couple of months ago, like not even
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: a couple months ago, a couple weeks ago, we were like,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, it'll probably air now and then and then
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: it's almost like almost like Dakota had like a censor
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: going off, like wow, this might air, and he's like
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: time to.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I know. The timing of it all just makes me
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: sick to my stomach, Like every single time, it's just
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: it's awful. I how can you not think that that's
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: the case, because every time that the show is about
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: to air, like, you know, let's just throw more mud
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: in the water. You know, I really wanted it to air,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: and I was very hopeful. I think, yeah, I think
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: this might have been the straw that broke the Bachelor's back. Yeah,
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: you know, Unfortunately, I am hopeful though that. You know,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: there have been I think on Bachelor Happy Hour they
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: were talking about how they're casting and maybe it was
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: on social media whatever for Bachelor. So hopefully they'll move
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: forward with that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: It's a thing like it's going to be there's gonna
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: be the Bachelor, And you know how they could like
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: kind of weave this in that this is actually interesting.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I just keep up with an interesting thought, Trista. If
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: they go with say her runner up as the bachelor, yeah,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: they could sprinkle in a lot of scenes of him
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: throughout the season, so you get a taste never before seen.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's interesting and that'll bring a lot of
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: viewers in.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: I agree, I like that actually a lot. I'm sure
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: they've I'm sure they've come up with that, but yes,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: do you think it will be one of her guys?
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: I would hope. So I hope it will be I think.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: And you know, also they can bring in all the
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: guys to be part of it somehow, like on a
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: date or or like. So for my season, I know
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: people don't remember this because it was so long ago,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: but I had three friends come and they lived with
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: the guys, and they gave me feedback on and they
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: hung out with them. They gave me feedback on who
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: they liked, and I think they picked picked one of
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: them for a date. I can't remember who it was
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: but or what date it was, but they were so
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: it was such an integral part of my journey and
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: because we haven't seen the guys from her season, I
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: would hope that if they do bring her chosen one
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: in that her chosen one, you think it's gonna be
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: number two.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Not I thought i'd be number two.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: The chosen one would be an interesting should I use
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: his name?
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Heather, it's out there to spoiler people, like it's out there.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: If it's Shane who's the runner up, I feel like
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: it makes more sense. If it's Doug, then it's gonna
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: be like Doug, who is supposedly number one, It's gonna
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: be like.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, hey, so you're your relationship with Taylor, Like how
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: did it end? What happened?
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I just think you're continuing the.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Slop show a little bit too much if you pick
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: the guy that she was actually with for a while
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: and the guy that she's posted on and off the
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: past couple minds. But Doug is super hot, Shane's cute two,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: and it's it's yeah, I don't think it could be.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: I think either or either or work.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: You think either or works. I don't know. I think
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: picking Doug might be sloppy.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Well, I see what you're saying. I feel like I
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: just want to have somebody from her season as the Bachelor,
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: and then bring in the guys for something. I don't
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: know what it is, but bringing the guys for something
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: so that we can actually get to know them.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Shane is currently or is filming the Hulu Mob Show.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: What's a mob show?
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know how there. You got to know these things.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: You're the casting director here.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: It's a game show, guys that's going to be out
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: with different reality stars from that's what. Remember when we
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: reported on Shane hanging out with Rachel Kirconnell and is
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: she on there? So Rachel isn't rumored. But who's the
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: other one that they were with? Who was her friend?
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Maria?
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah Maria.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: So Maria is the one that's supposed to be.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: On Oh yes, I did see.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: And so is freaking Bella from Love Overboard, who is
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: very Ashley I Kinnetti, like very cry face, which we
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: love on that show. So yeah, it's like they're kind
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: of what it sounds like, is their kind of version
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: of Traders on Hulu. Demi Demiski me from Secret Lives
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: and Mormon Wives, some other names are out there that
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: are going to be a part of it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: So to me, that's their way of being, like, hey,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: learn about Shane Taylor.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: From I think well, I think it was he's the
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: runner up and we liked him, so now we're giving
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: him another shot. I think that would have been weird
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: to have him go from Bachelorette mob and then.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Go be the Bachelor.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: That's a lot to be exposure in what would have
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: been the span of a year.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I think they could have been their way of being, like,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: we want this guy's face out there to test him out.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, look at Nick Bayel, I know, and Colton
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: was also yeah a long time so I mean, could happen?
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Could happen already already?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, guys, Well well, I'm sure we'll have more headlines
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: to talk about next week.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Until then, we love you so much. I've been Ashley,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: I've been interested. Bye.
• 29:55
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