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Trump–Putin Telephone, Passport Plunge, Putin’s Power Plans: Picking Apart Propaganda, Policy, and Partial Kharkiv Pullouts · International Flavor: Where the Truth Tastes Better

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  Hello, good evening. Welcome. I am Samuel trap. This is damn radio. You are listening to
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  there were several I
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  Don't know what you want to call them. Let's call them questions as it were ideas in my mind last night
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  Wondering what would occur and several of them I find rather entertaining
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  If you recall I've said several times that I believe that the old Trump monster he
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  Has a tendency to change everything he says
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  based on the last person he talked to I was unable to find any
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  transcript of it, but today a
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  Conversation took place between
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  Trump and Putin it was initiated by Putin is from what I understand and that he called
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  the old Trump monster and
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  Spoke with him on a little while and I have some commentary on that. I
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  remember quizzing last night myself upon the fact that
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  the old
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  Trumpster said that India claimed they were going to stop
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  Purchasing
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  oil from Russia, and I said I doubted sincerely that that had occurred and was hoping for some sort of
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  Verification or commentary from the other side of the planet
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  Which you know didn't occur and I will get to those topics. I've
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  one two three four
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  Nine or ten
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  Articles I'd like to share with you discussions of things that are coming out
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  Vladimir Putin gave his speech yesterday
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  At the
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  Russian energy forum which I think is important to go into because everybody's talking about what will happen and
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  the theme of that
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  Appearance of the entire
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  Now the Russians have this energy for him
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  And they invite people from all over the world to come and apparently there were some some American people and people from other
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  places where they were as well and
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  Other countries lots of people showed up. It was a very large auditorium pretty cool
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  Appearance that he gave and what what surprised me, but of course he was at Valdai a couple of weeks ago
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  and I brought you all the all the
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  Statements that he talked about there here. I'm not gonna share the entire
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  transcript with you about what he said because this is specific to energy, but the the
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  topic was
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  Energy until 2050 where where we are where we're going and Russia has a huge amount of
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  Of Russian
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  Russian of energy resources they have plenty of them and
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  Obviously oil and gas are two of the largest although they got plenty of rare earths and stuff like that, too
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  and so so
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  Energy is a very important topic and there could be quite a bit to go over in there
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  I've had and I listened to it. It was a good speech, and I've got a summary of it to give to you
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  We're gonna get into the tomahawk thing a little bit again
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  because
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  There's been some commentary on that one of the things that I like to do as I've spoken to you and told you about before
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  Is that I like to watch a show called?
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  Evenings with
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  Vladimir Solovyov which
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  According to everybody in the West is nothing but propaganda and in fact. There's plenty of people in
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  And very leaning very positive
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  Putin very positive
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  Russian government and stuff like that and there's plenty of people who actually agree with that
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  I don't know that
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  assessment as well in
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  In Russia and so but anyway, I I don't care. I watched a I watched a
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  One of those in the background that I was watching last night
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  And I saw a good amount of that show and I'd like to share part of it part of the commentary with you
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  Because I find it
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  Entertaining and interesting what they provide but before I get to anything I wanted to you know here
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  we are again in the US with
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  You know Vance tells Democrats they need to grow up and
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  apparently Democrats were attacking a group of the Young Republican National Federation, and they had a bunch of messages leaked
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  Online messages, and he said that they need to grow up, but on Tuesday political published
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  extracts of a telegram group chat
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  between members of the
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  Organization aged 18 to 40 which contained
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  multiple racist sexist insulting messages
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  among other things
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  participants called
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  African Americans called them watermelon people
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  described rape as epic and urged political opponents
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  that their political opponents be placed in gas chambers and
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  So the Democrats say, you know kicked him out of the party take away their official roles said Kathy Holkel
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  California governor Gavin Newsom said the definition of
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  Conduct that can create a hostile and discriminatory
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  environment that violates civil rights demands an investigation a
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  but JD Vance appeared on the Charlie Kirk podcast and
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  He said that the outrage
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  By Democrats is really meant to distract the public from recent scandals in their own party
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  So this controversy broke out after it was revealed that Virginia Democratic nominee
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  for Attorney General
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  Jay Jones
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  had written in a 2022 text message that
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  Then house speaker Todd Gilbert should get quote two bullets in the head and
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  What Vance said was a person who's about to become one of the most powerful
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  law enforcement officers in the country Jones
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  Seriously wishing for political violence is a thousand times worse than what a bunch of young people a bunch of kids
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  Say in a group chat, however offensive it might be
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  if you allow yourself to be distracted by this person's disgusting endorsement of
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  political assassination by focusing on what kids in a group chat are saying
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  Grow up. I'm sorry focus on real issues
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  He said reality is that
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  Kids do stupid things especially young boys. I don't know that I agree with him that they're all that young
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  They were you know aged
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  Whatever. It was 20 to 40
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  He goes and by the way, if they were left-wing kids telling stupid left-wing jokes
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  I would not want their lives ruined because they're saying something stupid in a private group chat
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  well, I
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  Although I appreciate that
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  You got to stand up for your own
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  The stupidity in your own stupid words, so and and whatever happens happens, you know what I mean that that was
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  And I
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  Don't know. I don't agree with I don't disagree with anything. He said I also think it's it is much more serious
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  For a guy gonna become the most powerful guy in state
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  and so obviously Democrats had to go and look for something similar that they can point the finger at and try to
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  Did I just end a sentence with I can't believe I ended a sentence with at
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  at any rate I
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  It just seems like a rather small deal for the governor and for
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  Hockel to be talking about these things and
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  clearly it is an attempt to
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  To get out of or to take attention away from or to say look everybody does it but not everybody
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  Is running to be a an attorney general
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  It's a little that guy out of freaking know better didn't say I can't imagine that he wouldn't be thinking of that not to say
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  The other kids shouldn't know better, but you know, they're not running for attorney general either
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  And I'm assuming that if they were somebody would bring out what they said, even if it was in a private
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  telegram chat and so
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  Twitter or whatever the hell it was who knows but whatever they were putting out
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  Anyway, there's more important things to talk about that occurred today
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  The call to on the Putin the planning for the summit without delay
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  Another summit to take place between
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  Russia in the u.s. And allegedly
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  Lavrov and Rulio Rulio Lavrov and Rubio are going to
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  Be communicating here in the next few days and
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  May be meeting but there was another
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  very
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  interesting
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  Story that interested me quite a bit
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  Because for years for many years when I when I was in the military
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  Years ago and
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  Doing a lot of traveling
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  the US
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  passport was
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  Considered to be the best passport in the world
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  You could go the most places
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  have the least amount of
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  Interference least amount of requirements for visas you could go anywhere and
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  They're sliding, you know, there they are
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  US has fallen out of the top ten for the most powerful passport
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  according to the latest Henley passport index
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  Measures global travel freedom based on the number of destinations you can go without a visa
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  This London based citizenship and residency consultancy has compiled this list for 20 years
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  using International Air Transport Association data
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  the passport which topped the list in
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  2014
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  2014 we were top meaning the the places we could go without a visa was the most
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  Now we're tied for we were seventh last year and now we're 12th tied with Malaysia and the decline
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  stems from the lost visa free access
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  to Brazil and
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  China now, although
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  China was supposedly opening it back up
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  But now they have reciprocity issues with the US as well as policy changes in Papua New Guinea
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  Myanmar Vietnam and Somalia the firm cited low visa openness and
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  noted that while Americans can still visit
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  180 of
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  227
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  Destinations visa free the u.s. Grants the same privilege to only
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  46 countries
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  the declining strength of the US passport over the past decade is
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  more than just a reshuffle it signals a fundamental shift in
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  global mobility and soft power
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  said the firm's chairman
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  Christian H Kaelin
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  nations that embrace openness and
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  Cooperation are surging ahead while those resting on past privilege are
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  being left behind
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  He also linked the drop to President Trump's immigration crackdown
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  Which began with illegal migration and drug trafficking but now has expanded to stricter rules for tourists
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  foreign workers and students the firm cited the recent visa restriction for travelers from 19 countries and
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  Trump's threats to ban up to 36 more as key factors
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  Trump's return to power has brought fresh trade conflicts that weaken America's mobility
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  said
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  Dr. Tim Clottie partner at Grant Thornton in China three Asian countries
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  lead the index
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  Singapore with a hundred and ninety three visa free destinations
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  South Korea with a hundred and ninety and
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  Japan with a hundred and eighty nine
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  accounting for tide scores
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  36 nations outrank the United States
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  Including all EU members the UK Switzerland Canada and the United Arab Emirates
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  Russia is ranked 50th with only a hundred and fourteen visa free
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  destinations so
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  We're still up there, you know, but we're now number 12
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  Used to be the top of the line
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  So that that was interesting to me. I hope you found it interesting and well, I
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  Have on my passport stamps
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  57 countries and so
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  How many I forget how many they said the u.s. Had a hundred and hundred and something, but I already closed that tab
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  So I can't go back and look
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  190 180 something 186 I think it was but I don't remember and
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  I'll never get to 186
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  By time, I kicked the old bucket kind of doubt it
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  But I am hoping to get to a hundred so I got like 43 more to go. I got to get cruising and
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  I think this year I'm gonna go to
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  Latvia
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  Estonia perhaps I
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  Hope to get to both of those and would add a couple of more or Finland as well
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  Because I'm gonna be in st. Petersburg
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  Early next year and I hope to to travel to those places whilst there
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  And I can do that without visas to each of those places. So I should be able to do that pretty cool
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  And we shall see what happens so that'll get me to 60 I think and that would be cool
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  And let's see
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  let us begin at the beginning of where I
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  am so
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  We had a bunch
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  so so I have the almost complete transcript of
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  Mr. Putin I have quite a bit of the Vladimir Solovyov
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  Topic show from tonight, which was pretty pretty cool
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  well, lots of information anyway, and lots of bitchin and
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  then I have
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  Transcript on the Trump Putin. I don't have a transcript. You know the nobody has released a verbatim
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  Transcript of the call what we have official
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  readouts and briefings and media summaries
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  primarily from Kremlin aid
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  Yuri Ushakov and what he said on the record plus the u.s. Press statements and Trump's own
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  Public comments on the Russian side. Here's what they're saying
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  Ushakov and others from the Kremlin. They're saying that the call lasted about two and a half hours
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  Initiated by Moscow. It was the 8th Trump and Putin call this year, which is
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  excellent because remember the old
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  Biden Biden team
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  Hadn't talked to Russia in years. I mean nonsense
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  Craziness, how do you expect to get anything done?
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  the Kremlin
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  characterizes the call as
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  extremely frank
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  Confidential
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  trustful and quite substantive
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  they proposed a
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  Budapest summit Trump proposed Budapest as the venue now, I may have shared with you. I don't remember
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  I remember reading it yesterday that
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  What's his name
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  Can't believe I forget his name already
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  The president prime minister whatever he is of
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  Damn it. How can I I can't believe I can't remember his name. Well, I'm tired again. So a
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  continual tiredness on my part
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  But he offered Budapest as a place said that the two sides
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  That Russia and the United States need to get together again and offered them to come to
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  Budapest and so Trump took him up on it and he proposed
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  Budapest
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  Himself and said, all right, let's do it. And so pump Trump proposed Budapest Putin immediately agreed and
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  Preparation will start without delay. The first step is Lavra from Rubio talking in the coming days
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  they said the
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  Kremlin says they talked about Ukraine and tomahawks
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  Putin told Trump that supplying tomahawks to Kiev would not change the battlefield
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  But would seriously damage u.s. Russia relations and
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  Undercut the peace prospects Russia says it holds strategic initiatives along the front
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  These are the summary of what they're saying from the Kremlin after this call and then economics after peace
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  Ushakov flagged Trump's optimism said that Trump was optimistic about u.s
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  Russian economic ties once the conflict is resolved frankly, I would love that
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  I intend when I when I go there over New Year's. I've never been to Russia in the winter
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  well, I have when it was really cold and I have I even have seen snow there, but I haven't spent any
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  Serious time there. I want to go there over New Year's and Christmas. There is on the 7th of January
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  And so my plan is to go there
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  And check that part out
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  Let us see what we can do here
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  We have a
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  Caller hello caller. How may I help you this evening? I
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  Would like you to help me understand what is going on Sam
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  What what is going on? Why is Trump?
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  You know offering to send tomahawks to that little needle dick
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  And
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  And that is the that is the epitome of
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  Feckless dickless
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  Autocracy, I mean the guy doesn't even hold Democratic elections the guy
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  The guy he
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  He
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  Condemns and even I
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  Don't know. I'm gonna say kills his his political opponents
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  Well, there's a story today that says he ousted I talked a little bit about it last night
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  He ousted the mayor of Odessa
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  because the guy allegedly
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  Allegedly had a Russian passport. So he booted him out and
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  He really is getting rid of any challenge to his his presidency
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  He does not want this war over. I mean, he's begging for those tomahawks because
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  Needs this war to keep on going
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  Yeah, he's a little creep a little temper. I mean, he's less than I mean Jesus, you know
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  There's been things going on in the past of you know
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  Pol Pot and Mao and all those people this dude is out in front of it all he is an
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  absolute little needle dick
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  Tin-pot dictator. I don't think he started that way
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  I really don't but but but he sure loves his power now and he fell into the role rather quickly
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  I think he was not that when he first got elected in
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  2019 or whatever
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  No, I think he was being used
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  seriously
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  but well by by
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  It started
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  Well, well kind of but it started they didn't expect him to win but they jumped on him pretty quick and
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  All of those they they pounced on him quick because they know he's a
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  He is very pleased with himself, you know, and and he wants he
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  He is manipulable and they can manipulate him zero problem
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  Just like Lindsey Graham just like him and Lindsey Graham are twins twin brothers from different mothers
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  So I don't even know I don't I don't call with solutions. I just call with
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  observations, but if I were the guy in charge if I were Donald Trump if I were the guy that was making the
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  Moves on whether the bomb Venezuela or the boats or whatever that is coming in. I would eradicate that little
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  That little
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  Leftist faggot queer and get him out because he's no good. He is he's he's
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  less than useless
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  Yeah, but he didn't used to be I don't think I mean his oh he got elected with like seriously
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  he got elected with a nearly 80% of the people of Ukraine and
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  And
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  Now he's a very low percentages. They don't like what he's doing. They don't like that. He destroyed the
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  Russian Orthodox Church, which had to change its name to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church
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  And then he's he's arresting all of the people because he says they're still subject to the church in Russia
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  And so they're there but they always have been it was one church and now they're trying to create two
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  They say that you know, you're following all this stuff up, but it's always been one church
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  There wasn't a Russian Church and an order in a Ukrainian Church
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  It was only one and so he's destroying it only because they're Russian. It's nonsense
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  I feel that's the easy way out. I feel like what this guy is is a no-count low-life
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  little bitch-ass punk well, I
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  agree with you on most of that, but he he I
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  Don't think he will ever be saved that he's gonna save himself from
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  And somebody's gonna reelect him I don't think there's any chance
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  remotely that he will be
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  reelected in
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  Bitch-ass faggot should be hung in front of his entire country. He is a traitor
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  He's a traitor to decency's a traitor to all that's good. He is no good
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  He's a no good little piece of trash built punk
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  Just like a lot of these rhinos in the United States are you know, and do we hang them? Do we?
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  believe their own
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  stories now the way Zelensky came into power is he was on a TV show and this TV show
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  No, no, no, that's the comedy show he was on a different show
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  called man of the people and that show was a story where he was a school teacher and
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  He went on a rant on some social media thing
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  about how the government sucked and he should be in charge of the government and then in the in the
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  TV show he became president and the story was about how he became president and what he did afterward
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  And there was some comedy and there were some things about it. Well
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  He was run by there was a guy who was an oligarch and a bank owner and I forget his name
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  I wish I could remember it and I've told this story before once or twice
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  But I can't remember the guy's name but an oligarch with billions as a banker and owning a couple other things
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  backed him and created a party called the man of the people party and put Zelensky up as
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  The person to run for president. Well, everybody loved the idea because he wasn't a politician
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  He was a comedian an actor and all that stuff and he instantly rose to the top and when he got into power
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  One of the first things he did was screw the guy who put him there the oligarch who paid for it all
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  He he had him chased down
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  he wasn't jailed or nothing, but but there there was a lot of of
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  Corruption allegations against him there was he started he started acting that way
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  Right away, but the u.s. Was on him all of the PP
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  He began to believe his own legend like he's somewhat like he's
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  like he won because
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  Because of himself he didn't win because of himself he won because he was backed by huge power and big money
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  That's why he won and the first thing he did was screw the guy
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  kind of like Kimmy Jemble
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  Well, I I don't know enough about him to speak intelligently on that and I've never been a fan of the guy anyway
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  and but
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  So so Sam my point is this I call I call into you because I feel like you have a
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  Certain degree of discernment, you know
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  I feel like you're your perspective your points of view. You're you're talking points are
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  derived from
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  intelligence, you know from from from gathering and gaining information and using those points of information to
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  Decide for yourself not anybody
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  I'll tell you this right now Sam. I think you were the least influenced speaker of anyone on
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  Damn radio and I love JR and I love I can I love a lot of other people but but you
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  You do not subscribe to a lot of these esoteric things
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  You know that many do like I do too, you know, you're not a god, you know
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  I'm not gonna say this in the right words. You're don't hear this wrongly, but you're not a
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  Godly guy. You're just a very very
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  Pragmatic guy
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  And I appreciate and respect that I really do because for so many years
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  I was the same way and then all of a sudden things just came and swirled upon my head and I became a
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  Don't know a believer I guess I don't know just a
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  devout
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  you know
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  believer in Christ and his
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  His sacrifice on that throne that that cross that that that that cross and Calvary
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  Where he was nailed him and a couple of his brothers. I think it was Peter and Paul
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  I don't know they were nailed to that cross nailed
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  To the crosses and then and then the crown of thorns were shoved down on their heads
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  Well, I
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  I
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  appreciate what you're saying about the way that I
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  process things and make my my own opinions and
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  Whether it's a curse or a gift. I don't know but I
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  Don't believe
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  Believe anything
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  Anybody puts out and I always have to to attempt to verify it
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  But then again, I can also be convinced the of something
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  I just can't be told what to do and I know I'm not alone in that there are plenty of Americans that way
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  You know you you you want me to believe what you're telling me
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  Don't just tell me this is what I have to believe because I will fight you every step of the way
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  but if you
• 30:43
  Convince me. That's a different story all together and and and I feel like
• 30:49
  You know, some things are just some things are absolutely blatantly wrong and you know it right up off off
• 30:58
  off the bat
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  I've always said in
• 31:01
  One of the things I remember, you know, and and I know, you know, I'm not all that religious
• 31:07
  But one of the things I remember from Sunday school
• 31:10
  Was always this that that said that you know what?
• 31:16
  There are a lot of things that people are gonna tell you about what is right and what is wrong and where where
• 31:24
  beliefs come from and where
• 31:26
  You will know
• 31:28
  You just know
• 31:31
  Instinctively that some things are right versus wrong
• 31:36
  Like you're not gonna go into a grocery store and pick up. I don't know pick up
• 31:41
  And grocery store is probably a bad one
• 31:44
  You're not gonna go into the toy store and pick yourself up a new a new table hockey game
• 31:49
  You know and walk out with it under your arm and not realize
• 31:54
  That it's wrong. You know what? I mean?
• 31:57
  You just know that that's wrong because you wouldn't want somebody to do that to you
• 32:03
  So I know that's a basic and simple thing, but you can
• 32:08
  Somehow I've always had
• 32:09
  It's like I say about Hillary Clinton and her sort of ilk, you know that when they are speaking
• 32:16
  You know there they don't even believe what they're saying
• 32:21
  themselves and
• 32:23
  you know what I mean and and and you can somehow you just
• 32:27
  You just know that there's it's it's it's worse than a salesman
• 32:31
  This person isn't trying to do this for his family
• 32:35
  They're you know to sell you a car that might not be as I don't know
• 32:40
  What is in as good a shape as it is which you might almost even be able to justify
• 32:45
  But these people are just downright
• 32:48
  Evil, they're doing it to seize power over you and everyone else and so down by evil
• 32:55
  Well, well and and and I truly felt that way every time that woman would open her mouth
• 33:01
  You'd go man. She is so full of crap. She don't even believe this
• 33:06
  You know what? I mean is she's selling you stuff that she doesn't even believe that's different
• 33:11
  You know, the salesman might be able to convince himself that he believes, you know
• 33:15
  if I could send you pictures of
• 33:19
  my mother
• 33:21
  compared to Hillary Clinton, they're like
• 33:25
  Precise
• 33:26
  Doppelgangers. Oh my god. Don't say that about your mother. That's horrible
• 33:31
  Dude I'm saying it out loud right now. No, don't say that. You don't want to wish that upon anyone. Don't do that
• 33:38
  Wait a minute, but your mom is good. Your mom's good, though
• 33:43
  because she is a
• 33:44
  representative of Hillary rotten Clinton and
• 33:48
  All that she stands for does that make my mom good? Oh, no, you said she was a doppelganger. That means she looks like her
• 33:55
  Looks like her acts like her thinks like her talks like her smells like her filthy
• 34:05
  How do you know how Hillary Clinton smells
• 34:09
  I'm just gonna say right now
• 34:10
  Something deep down in my heart of hearts. My soul of souls tells me that I am NOT of that
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  evil
• 34:19
  Evil spawn I am NOT spawned from that evil
• 34:23
  Woman that that wants to think that she's my mother there's more there's more to this life than than
• 34:31
  Than DNA. There's more to this life than then then
• 34:36
  You know family values that we have to understand that there are people in this world that stink
• 34:43
  They're fat. They're ugly. They're no good and we have to
• 34:48
  Divest ourselves from them because they're gonna do nothing
• 34:52
  But throw well fat fat people don't bother me. Okay, just so you know people that are of large weight. Don't bother me
• 35:00
  Do me and well, well, it depends, you know, but you know
• 35:05
  I don't I don't judge people based on their weight or based on anything. I what about the gays?
• 35:11
  I don't even care. But I mean truthfully, what do I care if you want to be?
• 35:18
  Okay
• 35:21
  Thing that I have said the only thing that I have said is that if you wish to be
• 35:28
  transgender
• 35:30
  Fine, but I don't want it in the military and I don't want you selling that pile of crap to my kids or my grandkids
• 35:38
  III
• 35:39
  Think but but do I agree?
• 35:43
  Absolutely, not but I will also say I
• 35:47
  Don't give a rip what you do in your own spare time or in your own home for the most part
• 35:53
  Just don't be abusing your kids. Don't be pumping that crap down their throats. I
• 35:58
  disagree
• 36:00
  but I but but I
• 36:03
  Couldn't tell you that that you don't have the right if you want to call it that
• 36:09
  To you know dress up dress up like like a monkey if you want to every day, you know
• 36:15
  but I don't want but if you but if I'm your lawyer worker your
• 36:20
  Workplace says, you know, you can't drum dress up in a monkey suit every day
• 36:25
  That doesn't mean you should be able to but wait identifies a monkey
• 36:30
  it's it's it's
• 36:32
  nonsensical and I don't like it and
• 36:35
  your right to
• 36:37
  That sort of behavior, I think stops at certain places
• 36:44
  So
• 36:45
  But do I care if you do it?
• 36:48
  Absolutely, not and in fact, I would I would even fight for your right to do it
• 36:54
  In the right places in your own stuff. I would fight for that, right?
• 36:59
  But I don't want it in the military
• 37:01
  I think it's just downright wrong and I don't want it in my schools, you know for my children
• 37:08
  you know until you're an adult and can make up your own mind and I don't want you pumping that crap down my kids throat in
• 37:15
  The school and telling him that it's alright when I as a parent say no, that's not alright
• 37:23
  I don't want there to be a conflict in it. I don't want that
• 37:27
  Do you have do you have children? Yes
• 37:32
  So we've had this discussion before
• 37:34
  Yeah, none of your children. I'm gonna guess our furries or fags or freaks or fairies
• 37:39
  I'm just gonna guess just because of the kind of guy you are and listen, you know
• 37:43
  We can use different words to describe this, you know
• 37:47
  It's all fine and dandy and I think this is the best thing we can do Sam this
• 37:52
  discussion that is on this platform that you are engaging in and that
• 37:58
  JR
• 37:59
  Offers to us all these are the important things that we need to
• 38:07
  Embrace we need to be able to speak freely, you know and without violence without without swords and without
• 38:16
  guns and without
• 38:18
  You know, just just hateful
• 38:21
  maybe hateful rhetoric is
• 38:24
  welcome, but without
• 38:26
  Violence, you know just well, I
• 38:29
  Support your ability to call people those sorts of names
• 38:34
  I might not agree with it on my show, but I support your ability to do whatever you want
• 38:40
  Okay, I would caution you that you shouldn't do it to their faces, you know you I wouldn't want you to get you know
• 38:46
  You know attacked by a bunch of nuts
• 38:49
  either and and I don't I don't
• 38:52
  Like escalation or violence or anything like that, I'm not for it
• 38:57
  But then again, you're free to think and say what you
• 39:01
  but and I absolutely
• 39:03
  Defend your right to say things even if they are offensive and they may even be
• 39:09
  Offensive to me, but I support your right to say them
• 39:16
  As in and so I I don't know how
• 39:19
  Big you know in America we have or we're supposed to have and I don't think that we always get that
• 39:28
  there's been a
• 39:29
  great effort over the last
• 39:31
  many years to
• 39:34
  destroy what
• 39:37
  Freedom of speech we do have by by
• 39:42
  cancelling
• 39:43
  people that might say some of the things that that you say and
• 39:47
  So
• 39:49
  Cancelling people is just as bad in my opinion. I'd like to leave you with two examples of what you just said
• 39:57
  Alex Jones
• 40:00
  Infowars same guy Alex Jones at Infowars and Mike Lindell of my pillow. They are being
• 40:08
  Cancelled that's right. Okay. They're being cancelled. Their First Amendment right is being cancelled. So so that said
• 40:17
  I would say that the most important thing we can do is no matter how drastic and how
• 40:24
  romantic or how
• 40:27
  how
• 40:28
  how
• 40:30
  Constitutionally correct we can be is we cannot let Alex Jones be cancelled. We cannot let Mike
• 40:39
  My pillow Michael and L be cancelled because they stand for freedom of speech, bro
• 40:45
  Just like I stand for years. Well, they tried to cancel
• 40:49
  Charlie Kirk forever, you know and say killed. Well, I understand that and they tried to cancel him and and it's
• 40:58
  It's really depressing to me that people are killed
• 41:03
  Jr. They killed they cancelled jrk rm. Yeah, but they did they cancelled jr four or five times before that
• 41:11
  I don't mean that horribly but jr's got a long history with them and they would cancel him and bring him back cancel him bring
• 41:18
  Him back and and they've done that over and I'm not justifying not at all
• 41:23
  I'm just saying that that jr is finally taking the step and created
• 41:29
  God love him for it because it gives me a place to spread my bile around the planet. You know what I mean?
• 41:37
  And I enjoy it. So
• 41:41
  For me and you I don't know Sam one of my favorite things is
• 41:46
  Discussing having a weekly call or so with you because you you're smart. You're a smart guy. I wouldn't go that far
• 41:53
  But I will say you may strike me down
• 41:56
  But if you do I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
• 42:01
  Frickin Kenobi, that's right
• 42:04
  It's like a
• 42:05
  Obi, so listen, I don't know how many people are listening right now
• 42:09
  And I and I hope the people that disagree with us mostly are listening and I challenge them
• 42:15
  I challenge those people that don't think
• 42:19
  With a similar congruent point of view to call in and and and help us understand
• 42:25
  Why why you guys you left his freaks bags and fairies are so so
• 42:34
  Violent
• 42:34
  You know
• 42:36
  Violent is is now it comes on both sides
• 42:40
  But I must say it's far more prevalent on the left than it is on the right
• 42:46
  All right, brother. Listen, I so much enjoy your I really enjoy
• 42:53
  Having this opportunity to share thoughts with you, so
• 42:58
  Well, I appreciate you I thank you for calling and you have a very good evening what's left of it
• 43:04
  Bye-bye and
• 43:08
  There he goes if you would like to call in anybody else 5 7 3 7 4 6 8 0 2 0 and
• 43:18
  Commentary I was in the middle of prior to the call telling you about the Russian side of what
• 43:25
  They were saying about the Trump Putin side, let's talk about what was said on the
• 43:33
  On this side of the pond
• 43:36
  What is on the record now Trump made a few comments in a?
• 43:43
  Press conference he was given today and he called the talk with Putin very productive
• 43:49
  Said that great progress was made and he announced himself a meeting with Putin in Budapest
• 43:56
  Within weeks no fixed date yet now he meets
• 44:01
  Zelensky the old Z monster the old green goblin
• 44:06
  Who's now the black goblin because he's wearing black instead green these days and he may even wear a suit jacket tomorrow
• 44:13
  I'm very interested in what in knowing about that and how he's gonna how he's gonna do the dress code these days
• 44:20
  I think he's he's ramping it up to impress the Donald right and
• 44:26
  He's meeting there there Friday October the 17th
• 44:29
  He gonna be at the White House for the third time
• 44:32
  Since the old Trump monster took office and we shall see what happens
• 44:37
  So there's of course people asked about what about the tomahawks
• 44:43
  Donald what about them and
• 44:45
  US coverage of these says that Trump said something to Putin about them and
• 44:53
  Putin
• 44:55
  Didn't like the idea and
• 44:59
  Trump also mentioned though here he goes changing his mind again
• 45:03
  He said we have some stockpile
• 45:07
  Constraints, and I want to be very cautious about depleting our
• 45:12
  Supply
• 45:15
  This guy
• 45:17
  You gotta love Donald Trump, but it's whoever he talks to last that he thinks about and maybe he was listening to my show
• 45:25
  Over the last couple of days where I've said listen
• 45:28
  Everybody's real or maybe to other reports. It says you only got 20 to 50 you can deploy anyway, and you got no way to
• 45:36
  Just throw them into the water and let him work
• 45:38
  You're gonna have to come up with some some launcher platforms for him to where you gonna get him
• 45:44
  You're not
• 45:46
  Gonna find them very easily because they're just not around
• 45:52
  But anyway on the US side they also talked about next steps the White House
• 45:58
  and line and press briefings also point to Rubio Lavrov
• 46:02
  Contacts to shape the agenda before any leaders meeting now
• 46:07
  I read some RT Russia Today news articles on it as well
• 46:12
  And there's an article it says Trump announces plan to meet Putin in Budapest
• 46:18
  preparation starting immediately
• 46:20
  Hungary's readiness is to host this and
• 46:24
  These are underscoring Moscow's framing of momentum and u.s.
• 46:29
  Receptiveness to talking about them TASS
• 46:32
  Interfax he nois which is
• 46:35
  Chinese they reinforced the two and a half hour length
• 46:38
  Moscow has having the initiative on the battlefield
• 46:42
  Frank and
• 46:44
  trustful tone established between the two the Kremlin's warnings about tomahawks and
• 46:50
  You know these are all
• 46:52
  What they talk about and pretty much mirror what the Kremlin has put out today?
• 46:57
  What has not been publicly disclosed nobody on either side that I've been able to find has provided a
• 47:05
  Transcript or a detailed agenda no firm date or time for Budapest and no published concession by either side
• 47:14
  All sides are sticking to generalities. They're pending working level talks Rubio and Lavrov
• 47:20
  well last time Lou Rubio and Lavrov met I believe was in Istanbul and
• 47:25
  They were and that was or were they yeah, I was Istanbul the last time before that they went to to
• 47:33
  UAE
• 47:34
  Well, I can't remember it was in in it was in the Middle East somewhere, but
• 47:40
  unfortunately, I don't remember off the top of my head and
• 47:45
  They have been Russia has been complaining about the
• 47:50
  Initiative for settlement being stalled
• 47:54
  Because
• 47:57
  Ukraine Zelensky have never followed up on any of the working group
• 48:05
  meetings in Istanbul after they met and came up with a
• 48:12
  Sort of a schedule of where they were gonna go said we need this we need this we need that
• 48:17
  All they did was switch some dead bodies sent them over to Ukraine
• 48:22
  They exchanged some prisoners and that was that and they did prisoners swaps and body swaps twice
• 48:28
  And that's it. And so when Ukraine meets them, they it's big talk
• 48:33
  It's all for show cuz Zelensky doesn't want this war over
• 48:38
  Europe doesn't want this war over. What are they gonna do? What's gonna happen when this war is over?
• 48:45
  Let's let's talk about that for a second. So Russia is kicking the crap out of Ukraine
• 48:53
  Militarily
• 48:55
  Now I had so I watched an interesting
• 48:57
  our
• 48:59
  interesting
• 49:00
  video on YouTube today that
• 49:03
  Said that Russia yesterday. Yeah or overnight on the on this on the 15th
• 49:10
  That they had sent over
• 49:16
  377
• 49:18
  377
• 49:19
  Whatever it was close. Let's call it 370 something, right and that Ukraine
• 49:26
  Announced that they had shot down
• 49:32
  290 something so 70 something got through right and those numbers aren't exact
• 49:38
  I'm tell you know, but it was not quite 400. It was around
• 49:43
  375 ish caught and
• 49:45
  They shot down about 300. So that means 75 got through right of these most were
• 49:53
  Shahid drones or or UAVs that were were piloted in and but
• 50:01
  There were 28
• 50:05
  28
• 50:08
  Missiles
• 50:09
  Missiles that Russia shot over they sent over missiles and
• 50:14
  Ukraine didn't stop any of them not one
• 50:19
  That that and this is from the Ukrainian side the Ukraine said that they hadn't stopped
• 50:25
  They were there that 28 out of 28 got through of these
• 50:31
  Russian cruise missiles that came over the
• 50:37
  And and the
• 50:39
  orator the person given the the video said that he believes this is
• 50:48
  Intentional that either there's it's only one of two possibilities is what he says. So either you have to believe that
• 50:58
  Ukraine has absolutely no air defense
• 51:03
  Available on the one hand, which is possible their Patriots are depleted
• 51:08
  I've seen plenty of reports that say most of the if not all of the Patriots that have been
• 51:14
  Delivered over the last couple of years. They are gone. You know that they're
• 51:21
  destroyed and
• 51:23
  So
• 51:25
  The other point of view is
• 51:29
  Quite a bit more cynical
• 51:32
  But some people think this is true and
• 51:37
  The it's the only other thing that you can believe is that Ukraine
• 51:43
  Has air defense
• 51:46
  but allowed all
• 51:48
  28 missiles to come through and
• 51:52
  the these are they allowed them to come through and
• 51:56
  You know, why?
• 51:57
  Why would they allow them to come through well the cynical view is they allowed them to come through
• 52:04
  because
• 52:05
  Zelensky is coming to Washington tomorrow and
• 52:10
  he's
• 52:11
  Setting the stage to say look at what's happening here. We don't have any air defense
• 52:17
  We don't have missiles. We really need those tomahawks
• 52:20
  We need those tomahawks. We got to be able to fight back now, by the way as I've said over the last
• 52:26
  Two days a week whatever when talking about these tomahawks. They're not a game-changer no matter how you slice it and
• 52:35
  You know, we've had plenty of game-changers before that aren't game-changers. We haven't had you know, we haven't had
• 52:43
  F-16 game-changers. We haven't had any
• 52:46
  Patriot game-changers there have been no game-changers
• 52:51
  Ukraine still isn't winning their problems are they do not have enough
• 52:56
  Men, and they won't have enough men. They arguably could bring on another
• 53:03
  400,000 men if they lowered the draft age from 25 to 18
• 53:11
  but they're losing and
• 53:15
  Even if they do how fast can they train those?
• 53:18
  400,000 not very fast and you know, there was an article I read about
• 53:24
  Nazi
• 53:25
  Insignia this was a bad one
• 53:28
  this was a bad article that I read that they have arrested a bunch of people who are
• 53:36
  Man I got to find that article and these were
• 53:40
  you know Nazis sorts of people that are
• 53:44
  intimidating
• 53:45
  Interrogating and beating all kinds of people and doing it to civilians too that aren't coming into the to the army
• 53:53
  And they got arrested for all kind, you know, even in Ukrainian news
• 53:58
  They are putting out that some of these guys they've been picked up
• 54:02
  for for what they are doing on the Nazi side stage and the Russians have been talking about this for a long time not
• 54:11
  suffocation and the
• 54:13
  Honoring of what they're doing on the Ukrainian side pushing this Nazi narrative
• 54:19
  Pushing like it's okay, you know and and moving all of these
• 54:25
  You know, they've come over to take these people and force them into service on the front lines and they're not there themselves and
• 54:33
  and it's
• 54:35
  These are not good things. There's there are plenty of bad stories going around in Ukraine about how these things
• 54:43
  are
• 54:44
  working between the people
• 54:47
  Which where do I want to go after this I wanted to get to the theme and the topic on the Vladimir
• 54:54
  Solovyov show, you know where all the propaganda comes from and they had several roundtable themes and and I've told you before I
• 55:02
  Really would love to have a show like this myself
• 55:06
  The format is freaking
• 55:09
  Fantastic, and why do I like to show?
• 55:13
  First of all, I want to hear the other side of the tale second of all I like having
• 55:19
  Listening to these in Russian
• 55:22
  Because it keeps my Russian fresh and and and if I can understand talk at this level
• 55:30
  certainly, I should be able to
• 55:32
  Put out my own point of view in Russian as well and I can and I make grammatical mistakes
• 55:39
  It's a extremely difficult language
• 55:42
  but
• 55:42
  but I
• 55:44
  Speak pretty smoothly and I don't necessarily worry and and and I don't necessarily make all that many mistakes
• 55:50
  And I just noticed them when I make them at any rate the roundtable themes that these guys talk about he'll have
• 55:57
  six guys in a room each one standing in a podium Vladimir Solovyov will come out and give his point of view and
• 56:04
  Or give his topic for the night and he'll talk for 10-15 minutes
• 56:08
  Then he goes around the room and lets each person either respond reply
• 56:14
  change the topic talk about something like
• 56:18
  Solovyov will say something about how the war is going and then the next person will talk about the
• 56:23
  economics of war and what it's causing in the country and the next person will talk about his thoughts on
• 56:30
  Mobilization or something like that. All of them are related as they go around and they'll have and sometimes they'll get into
• 56:38
  Fights verbal fights against each other and disagreements. It's great. I love the format. It's great
• 56:44
  it's like having a you know a
• 56:48
  War of words in or not a war sometimes they agree. Sometimes they disagree. It's good stuff
• 56:54
  Anyway, the topics tonight for the show. Well for them, it's actually
• 56:59
  October 17th
• 57:00
  And so was the the show there and the Tomahawk debate was the first one and the end whether it's going to cause escalation
• 57:08
  That's a good topic to whether Kiev is headed toward a mass and total
• 57:14
  Mobilization and how it would work because people are still talking about
• 57:18
  including in Kiev they're talking about
• 57:21
  lowering the draft age to
• 57:24
  to
• 57:26
  18
• 57:26
  And or at least 20, you know moving it moving it some and how it would work logistically third topic EU and NATO
• 57:33
  Financing schemes Europe pays the US sells, you know, and that's US involved too and the political economy of war
• 57:43
  Trump topic for Trump's performative diplomacy
• 57:47
  They're talking about Budapest and
• 57:50
  Sharm el-sheikh and what went on and what Moscow should infer from the discussions and that was post
• 57:57
  discussion not post phone call post announcement of
• 58:02
  The Zelensky one for sure, but I don't think it included the
• 58:06
  The Putin Trump meeting they were talking about risks of multi-front conflict
• 58:12
  Ukraine Middle East and Southeast Asia for Russia what that would mean
• 58:17
  Number six Russia's internal economic management during the war. That's always an important topic for me. I like to know about that
• 58:25
  seven domestic Ukrainian politics, including the Odessa mare case
• 58:30
  I told you about and using it as a tool for suppressing protest
• 58:35
  Under winter energy strikes because there's no energy back in if they don't settle this case somehow
• 58:43
  Or settle this war somehow in Ukraine
• 58:46
  They're they're in for a horrific winter
• 58:49
  Let's put it that way the eighth topic Western rhetoric mark Ruta
• 58:54
  Stoltenberg that I told you about Ruta yesterday and
• 58:58
  They're just not serious people according to the framing of the host here the table
• 59:03
  Repeated really frames tomahawks as a political provocation with a low military payoff, but high nuclear risk
• 59:12
  arguing Ukraine's manpower and industrial limits
• 59:15
  make total
• 59:17
  mobilization just impossible and
• 59:20
  Calls for harder Russian counters or they still want Russia to ramp up some more range from intensified energy grid strikes
• 59:27
  They want Russia to blow up even more this this platform anyway this talk show
• 59:32
  Suggests that you need to blow up even more
• 59:36
  energy grid in Ukraine to
• 59:39
  also overt threats against u.s. Tomahawk programming sites because
• 59:45
  trust me as soon as a tomahawk platform if they can get one and
• 59:51
  The only one they have is the one that would include hauling around a trailer
• 59:56
  They might be able to bring a couple of those in from Europe if they're there
• 1:00:00
  but I believe the only place they're really deployed is in the Pacific in the Philippines and
• 1:00:09
  But if they do they say there should be threats against u.s.. Tomahawk programming
• 1:00:15
  Sites inside Ukraine, and they demand more centralized war economy management at home
• 1:00:21
  They want they want the government take even more control of it so very interesting show overall on these topics
• 1:00:30
  and Solov Yov set the tone in the beginning, and he says the world smells like
• 1:00:36
  The world like a big war and if the West pushes this long-range escalation
• 1:00:42
  Tomahawks from Ukraine Russia's response will immediately jump categories
• 1:00:48
  Potentially targeting critical infrastructure and the destruction of that would produce cross-border
• 1:00:54
  Consequences he warns that strikes on the nuclear plant like I've been warning about forever that
• 1:01:01
  Ukraine has been attacking nuclear plants with drones, and they've bounced off nuclear drone
• 1:01:09
  Cooling towers twice, it's not good, and that would push
• 1:01:14
  You know if they're they struck a nuclear plant that would push the fallout in the winter toward Poland or that
• 1:01:22
  The aging Kiev Dam could fail
• 1:01:26
  He ridicules the imagined
• 1:01:30
  US concept of hitting sites the Ikela booga and stresses Western ignorance of modern Russian production
• 1:01:38
  And how that actually would work and what he was talking about there was the same thing that I brought up last night that says
• 1:01:44
  Where are you gonna?
• 1:01:45
  Take these missiles to where you gonna get him the only way to get him into Ukraine is from West from the West through Poland
• 1:01:52
  And the only way to get them near the front lines far enough or close enough that it would really matter is
• 1:02:00
  You got a haul him through the countryside, and if you think the Russians wouldn't know and try to take him out on the way
• 1:02:07
  I think they'd like they've done with quite a few Patriot systems like they've done with a number of
• 1:02:13
  f-16
• 1:02:15
  Iterations as soon as they land on the airfield in Ukraine. They're getting attacked and blown up
• 1:02:21
  So they've started storing them in Romania, and they got a fly and that means they have a very short air time
• 1:02:28
  Inside of Ukraine or near the front so it really hasn't been that much of a game-changers. They got all these problems
• 1:02:37
  The Western ignorance of modern Russian production because the production is
• 1:02:42
  fantastic he riffs on the Polish policy policy as
• 1:02:46
  Self-defeating that they bankroll Banderites like that Bandera who historically killed tons of Poles
• 1:02:53
  And then he hammers the math of
• 1:02:56
  Ukrainian losses
• 1:02:59
  Thousand hundreds of thousands dead
• 1:03:02
  With a million and a half at least
• 1:03:05
  severely wounded
• 1:03:07
  by simple ratio
• 1:03:08
  Asking where Kiev would find another two and a half million bodies if the West now talks of a three-year
• 1:03:17
  continuation of the war
• 1:03:19
  He made fun of Mark Rutte as a WWF style trash talker
• 1:03:26
  That was funny. You don't know that he knows
• 1:03:28
  WWF but apparently he does and then he returned to the tomahawk trigger logic a tomahawk launch is
• 1:03:35
  Assumed to be nuclear capable and might incur
• 1:03:39
  instant Russian retaliation and Kiev wouldn't have time to celebrate any strike by a tomahawk and
• 1:03:47
  then he
• 1:03:50
  goads the panelists to talk about if if tomahawks fly
• 1:03:57
  America is file is
• 1:03:58
  Firing them. I believe that too with the u.s. Cruise u.s. Programming. So responses should be aimed accordingly
• 1:04:08
  domestically, he talks about forecasts that undercut the
• 1:04:12
  Commander-in-chief's growth targets. He blasts central bankers for cooling an economy at war
• 1:04:18
  He because they've raised interest rates. He calls for plan driven
• 1:04:23
  Direct state financing not bank centric procedures and
• 1:04:27
  You know World War two style emergency governance. He's talking about he plays he he he always
• 1:04:37
  You know
• 1:04:39
  Tries to keep people on point when they're talking them
• 1:04:43
  And so it's pretty good. He had quite a few people in here talking about it
• 1:04:48
  And so it was an interesting show
• 1:04:50
  I don't think I'm gonna go a whole lot further into it and
• 1:04:55
  Tell you more because I'd also wanted to get to
• 1:05:00
  Vladimir Vladimirovich and his his discussion, but before I get to Vladimir there is a talk that
• 1:05:07
  Northeast Kharkiv is
• 1:05:10
  being
• 1:05:11
  Evacuated. Okay, and so I had heard something and so I did a little bit of research on this and now what's actually being
• 1:05:19
  Evacuated in Northeast Kharkiv according to Ukrainian
• 1:05:22
  Sources and not according to Russian sources or American sources that we never hear about this in America. Anyway, I'm probably one of
• 1:05:29
  One of one who is actually telling telling the tales of woe
• 1:05:36
  for America
• 1:05:37
  Because nobody tells you the truth about or talks about it at all
• 1:05:43
  When's the last time you heard anything about what's going on in Ukraine except here?
• 1:05:48
  Because they don't talk about it. They want to they want you to assume that a Ukraine is winning, you know, and and it's nonsense
• 1:05:54
  But now they're saying that they're evacuating Northeast Kharkiv and our kids a pretty big city
• 1:06:00
  Ukraine is expanded a mandatory evacuation
• 1:06:05
  for families with children from 40 settlements in
• 1:06:09
  Kupyansk, which is in the heart of obelisk and it's not a full evacuation of the whole Northeast Kharkiv region
• 1:06:15
  It covers three communities
• 1:06:20
  Velikiya Burlyk, which is 27 localities
• 1:06:24
  Vilk who Vilk who vodka?
• 1:06:28
  all
• 1:06:29
  Kovatska and
• 1:06:31
  Shevchenkiv sky with
• 1:06:34
  409 families
• 1:06:35
  601 children slated for relocation due to the situation in Kupyansk
• 1:06:40
  Along that whole front because of Ukraine is losing their asses up there
• 1:06:44
  This comes from Ukraine's own regional authorities and is echoed across Ukraine and some
• 1:06:51
  international wires on the English
• 1:06:54
  version Ukrainian line Kharkiv Regional Defense Council
• 1:06:58
  forcibly evacuating family with children from 40 settlements
• 1:07:03
  in connection with aggravation of the Suri security situation and the and
• 1:07:08
  The place is about to be overrun, you know
• 1:07:11
  They got to get these kids out of there and the families several reports lists the exact breakdown
• 1:07:16
  as like I told you about the
• 1:07:20
  601
• 1:07:22
  children 409 families
• 1:07:25
  Russian language and local outlets described the expansion
• 1:07:29
  also due to as a response to Russian pressure around Kupyansk and
• 1:07:36
  International wires are saying the same thing that they're evaluating it a full evacuation is not
• 1:07:43
  Occurring but that's what it is, but it is a forced
• 1:07:47
  evacuation and they got to get out of there and
• 1:07:51
  So they also talked about some clarification on this Trump Putin meeting and what's going on there
• 1:07:58
  but it was only a phone call and so they talked a little bit about that stuff and so
• 1:08:06
  Let's see, where else were we gonna go to day I want to get down to
• 1:08:15
  the we already went through solid view if I got although I got plenty of more on some of the some of the topics discussed
• 1:08:22
  there was a
• 1:08:24
  female
• 1:08:26
  Commentator and I didn't get her name
• 1:08:28
  But she was talking about diplomacy the UN and Armenia and there was a pretty good amount of stuff that she talked about
• 1:08:36
  but I
• 1:08:37
  wanted to get to
• 1:08:42
  India and
• 1:08:43
  Trump's claim and I don't think I've done this yet. I really hope I've got repeat myself. I truly don't think I am
• 1:08:50
  I said I was gonna get to it, but I didn't get there and there's a
• 1:08:56
  A
• 1:08:56
  Speaker guy's name is Shri Randhir Jaiswal
• 1:09:00
  he's the official spokesman from the Ministry of External Affairs MEA government of India and
• 1:09:08
  Basically he was at the press briefing in New Delhi
• 1:09:11
  on October 16th, so which is today, but they're ahead of us. So obviously 17th there now and
• 1:09:19
  What he said about Trump's claim
• 1:09:23
  His first claim was that hey, by the way
• 1:09:27
  There wasn't a call
• 1:09:30
  between
• 1:09:31
  Trump and Modi the call didn't occur. So Trump being at that press conference saying I just gotta had a phone call with
• 1:09:38
  Narendra Modi
• 1:09:40
  And he told me he's gonna stop by an oil. Not only did the statement not occur. Neither did the call
• 1:09:48
  And according to the Indians and there's the Ministry of External Affairs says there was no call and
• 1:09:56
  Asked about whether Pia Modi had spoken with President Trump the day Trump claimed India pledged to stop buying oil
• 1:10:03
  Jaiswal said no conversation. There was a call on October 9th
• 1:10:10
  Not on you know, not yesterday, but not about stopping Russian oil
• 1:10:14
  He confirmed an October 9 Modi Trump call and he said that the readout covered
• 1:10:22
  congratulations on the Gaza peace plan a
• 1:10:25
  Review of trade talks and an agreement to stay in touch
• 1:10:30
  Nothing about halting
• 1:10:32
  Russian oil and if he was the one nothing about OG
• 1:10:36
  I'm leaving bricks like Trump was talking about yesterday. I believe that Trump likes to
• 1:10:44
  Whether you want to call it lying or not, I don't care in in in the legal spheres
• 1:10:50
  there's something that is referred to as
• 1:10:54
  puffing
• 1:10:55
  okay, and puffing is it relates to what a
• 1:11:01
  Let's say a salesman might do and for lack of a better one, let's let's use a
• 1:11:09
  Used car salesman. Oh
• 1:11:12
  This is the best car in the city. This is the best car on the lot. Oh this you know, there's a
• 1:11:18
  Listen, this is your grandmother'd be well off in this car. It's be great for your grandmother
• 1:11:24
  I mean, you know, yeah sure she'd be safe in it something like that. These things are referred to as
• 1:11:29
  puffing and the reason is because they are
• 1:11:34
  Nonspecific, okay, if you say well this engine was rebuilt, you know two weeks ago
• 1:11:41
  That's an outright lie. Okay, but puffing, you know saying oh this engine will keep you going for years
• 1:11:49
  That is puffing and generally not actionable, right? And so
• 1:11:55
  Excuse me. You shouldn't listen to those people that are puffing that some are pumping that sunshine into your nether regions
• 1:12:03
  Because that's exactly what they're doing and the old trumpster and I'm being generous and saying
• 1:12:10
  This is just puffery on his part
• 1:12:15
  because
• 1:12:17
  Frankly, it's not
• 1:12:19
  he didn't talk to Modi the day before Modi didn't say I'm gonna stop buying Russian oil and
• 1:12:27
  He probably if he's alleging that it is this person
• 1:12:31
  He didn't say who but it was Indians all in the room that were interviewing him
• 1:12:35
  He said Modi said he's gonna get out of bricks or he's dropping bricks and bricks
• 1:12:39
  You know, I say people are gonna be kicked out of while you're not gonna be in bricks anymore
• 1:12:44
  you know those things did not occur and
• 1:12:49
  According to the Indians and so
• 1:12:52
  The policy line is the same as it always has been even according to this
• 1:12:58
  Jaiswal who is the ministry?
• 1:13:01
  the government he's a
• 1:13:03
  official spokesperson
• 1:13:05
  It's not Jaishankar Jaishankar would be my I'd love to hear him talk about this
• 1:13:10
  but I couldn't find anything on him, but Jaiswal who is a
• 1:13:15
  spokesman gave a
• 1:13:16
  Press conference today presser very well 16th
• 1:13:20
  And he said that he he repeatedly pointed reporters to minister
• 1:13:25
  Ministry of External Affairs same-day statements on energy sourcing stressed
• 1:13:32
  That here's his quote
• 1:13:34
  India does not subscribe to
• 1:13:38
  unilateral sanctions
• 1:13:39
  energy security for Indian consumers is
• 1:13:44
  Paramount and there should be no double standards in energy trade. I hardly think that's a glowing
• 1:13:53
  Recommendation for the old Trumpster from them
• 1:13:56
  he declined to endorse any commitment to reduce or stop Russian oil or to switch to a US supply and
• 1:14:04
  Instead he referred back to his prior statement, which I just read to you. What are we Indian wires?
• 1:14:11
  saying
• 1:14:12
  Indian and international reports matched a briefing no Wednesday call no pledge to halt Russian oil and energy security first
• 1:14:21
  Detailed rundown of the briefing itself beyond the Trump and oil exchange in the briefing
• 1:14:27
  They also talked about Afghanistan and Pakistan. They talked about India's Kabul mission
• 1:14:33
  Operational since 2022 will transition into full embassy. They talked about Myanmar
• 1:14:38
  They talked about India and UK the MEA noted strong momentum past
• 1:14:44
  Post Keir Starmer's visit China and rare-earths end-user certificates in the trade going on in that
• 1:14:52
  area
• 1:14:54
  UK sanctions on nyara energy because they're they're buying
• 1:14:59
  Russian
• 1:15:00
  Gas the MEA went went on about the no unilateral sanctions
• 1:15:05
  No, damn double standards line again and energy security is paramount
• 1:15:10
  Bottom line India's official position
• 1:15:13
  Flatly denies Trump's line
• 1:15:16
  No call no pledge to stop buying and no shift away from their long-standing doctrine of energy sovereignty
• 1:15:24
  Consumer interests first no unilateral sanctions and no double standards. That's the way it is
• 1:15:32
  Okay
• 1:15:34
  Trump and his he had some Oval Office
• 1:15:38
  Announcements today, which I've told you some of and they had to do with in vitro fertilization
• 1:15:45
  Affordability and he's price cutting some drugs and doing some things like that. But there were some
• 1:15:50
  questions and answers
• 1:15:52
  afterward that came up afterward and
• 1:15:56
  Some of these they he got into the Hamas thing that you threatened some Hamas gangs on true social
• 1:16:02
  He said that the deal is being violated
• 1:16:04
  It's a tough neighborhood and he expects behavior consistent with commitments now
• 1:16:10
  These people lined up seven people in front of him and shot him in the head
• 1:16:15
  No, this is Hamas after the deal right and Trump's response was oh gee
• 1:16:20
  There's some tough gangs tough neighborhood. They're cleaning out their own
• 1:16:24
  Party and stuff like that. I
• 1:16:27
  You know what? I think I think they released all these Hamas people and said you're not going to be in charge
• 1:16:32
  But if you clean house in the meantime, we're not gonna do anything with it
• 1:16:36
  Just don't let this screw with what we're doing in the area. I wonder if that's really the case or true
• 1:16:42
  I don't know, but it's not good to see people just shot in the head. That's nonsense
• 1:16:48
  Anyway, he got asked about the timeline for the Putin meeting in Hungary and his specific answer was within two weeks or so
• 1:16:56
  Is what he said?
• 1:16:58
  Rubio and Lavrov Lavrov will meet first and set the time in place. He'll brief Zelensky
• 1:17:03
  He's gonna brief Zelensky tomorrow and the relationship between Kiev and Moscow is terrible
• 1:17:10
  so there may be separate meetings and so he's not necessarily inviting the z-monster there and
• 1:17:17
  Somebody asked him you said there was great progress on the Putin call what changed any message for Zelensky?
• 1:17:23
  He said no specific. He says he makes deals. He has ended wars before believes
• 1:17:29
  This will be number nine. He's working level prep comes first between Rubio vice president those people
• 1:17:36
  He said did you discuss Tomahawk missiles?
• 1:17:39
  He said a little bit he emphasized the u.s. Needs their own Tomahawks and can't deplete its own
• 1:17:45
  Its own stocks called them powerful and accurate. Okay, why would a second Putin meeting yield a different result?
• 1:17:53
  He argued the Biden's missteps created the World War three risk under him there would be have been no war
• 1:17:59
  He's doing this to save souls. He can end it and help Europe the meeting his meeting could succeed and
• 1:18:07
  Where else talked about John Bolton getting indicted?
• 1:18:11
  He said and he also was asked in the same question. Can your deal-making end the shutdown?
• 1:18:19
  He said he hadn't heard, but he called Bolton a bad person
• 1:18:24
  and that
• 1:18:25
  You know on the shutdown he wants a simple extension and accused opponents of a 1.5 trillion dollars for illegal
• 1:18:33
  immigrants
• 1:18:36
  Let's see sanctions bill on Russia. There's a new G. Here's a surprise senator Thune and speaker Johnson
• 1:18:43
  He said the timings not
• 1:18:45
  Perfect given a productive call that he joked about giving Ukraine a couple thousand Tomahawks and Putin didn't like the idea
• 1:18:53
  That's what he said
• 1:18:56
  So that's where that went to day
• 1:19:02
  Let's see
• 1:19:04
  They had a
• 1:19:09
  Question and answer where was this one?
• 1:19:12
  Andre Kalin
• 1:19:14
  Kellan who's and he was being interviewed by end of Brady and this is a
• 1:19:21
  TRT world
• 1:19:22
  And
• 1:19:25
  What's his name Kellan is the ambassador he's Andre Kellan the ambassador Russian ambassador to
• 1:19:32
  Britain and he he's well-spoken. I like listening to him
• 1:19:37
  he was being interviewed as well, and he got quizzed about Tomahawks to Ukraine and
• 1:19:43
  He said Trump the question was Trump's considering giving Ukraine long-range Tomahawk missiles
• 1:19:49
  Capable of striking Moscow
• 1:19:50
  What is Russia's reaction and he said Russia is waiting to see Trump's actual decision
• 1:19:58
  Tomahawk the missile isn't new to Moscow. We've known about them since the late
• 1:20:04
  1980s talks he said a single missile type going to Ukraine isn't a big thing
• 1:20:11
  but any launchers or
• 1:20:13
  Pre-launch prep would necessarily mean that US personnel were involved which Moscow views as a
• 1:20:22
  serious escalation
• 1:20:24
  Echo again, and he said because the Tomahawk has a new Tomahawk has a nuclear capable variant
• 1:20:30
  Russia must assume worst case if they see a Tomahawk coming across the border small numbers aren't gonna change the battlefield anyway
• 1:20:39
  You know of these sorts of missiles even without nuclear warhead, but escalation is very very real
• 1:20:47
  is what he said and
• 1:20:49
  Then he was asked is the Kremlin Kremlin taking Trump seriously he said
• 1:20:56
  You know Peskov called this a dramatic moment Medvedev warned it could end badly especially for Trump
• 1:21:02
  Are you taking this seriously in the in the ambassador said yes, Moscow monitors all White House statements
• 1:21:09
  But doesn't yet understand Washington's real
• 1:21:12
  intent
• 1:21:13
  regardless of stated aims to avoid
• 1:21:15
  Escalation the Tomahawk would definitely mark a new level of escalation again repeat
• 1:21:22
  He said what would Russia do if a Tomahawk were fired, then you must have an idea
• 1:21:27
  What would be the response and he said I won't speculate on a specific response, but
• 1:21:33
  the Tomahawk being used wouldn't improve the battlefield situation wouldn't improve the political situation and would likely
• 1:21:41
  sideline any mediation and create a new political picture and
• 1:21:46
  Every that everyone must deal with which is quite true
• 1:21:52
  They he asked they were asked about this
• 1:21:54
  and this is a popular question on the Russian side, and they keep being asked about the Alaska of
• 1:22:02
  Momentum and the question was after Putin and Trump met in Alaska
• 1:22:07
  there seemed to be a momentum toward a ceasefire that is now evaporated is that fair and
• 1:22:14
  He
• 1:22:15
  You know is that fair meeting is that correct and what he said was no
• 1:22:20
  That you know it's not fair to say that the meeting produced a joint vision
• 1:22:25
  for resolving the conflict
• 1:22:28
  Not for a ceasefire in other words
• 1:22:30
  They keep trying to trap people into the ceasefire talk and none of them are playing
• 1:22:36
  He said that Kiev
• 1:22:38
  Rejected this resolving the conflict conflict when it was conveyed to them
• 1:22:44
  He said work continues at a working level though political progress hasn't really followed
• 1:22:51
  battlefield developments continue
• 1:22:54
  with gradual Russian advances just like always and
• 1:23:00
  He said the next question was is Russia open to peace talks while continuing to fight until it gets its aims
• 1:23:08
  And here that is a valid question and that means something he said Russia supports a diplomatic
• 1:23:15
  Resolution, but it has to be long-term
• 1:23:18
  resilient
• 1:23:19
  Comprehensive and reflect Russian interests and those of its neighbors a mere immediate ceasefire without addressing the root causes is
• 1:23:27
  Unacceptable these guys have been a broken record for how many years I mean since 2022
• 1:23:34
  This is what they've been saying and even before that it never should have happened if they had if people had taken
• 1:23:41
  anything that Russia said ever
• 1:23:44
  Seriously, and hadn't been playing because they thought they could just wipe rush off the map quickly
• 1:23:50
  Which is what everybody thought everybody thought Ukraine was gonna kick the crap out of them. That's what they thought
• 1:23:57
  Ukraine with their million man army, where is it at now?
• 1:24:02
  He they asked do Trump's tomahawk threats damage ceasefire prospects
• 1:24:10
  Well, of course, you know Western threats don't influence Russian policy
• 1:24:16
  Our goals are fixed and will be pursued Russia's too big to listen to threats. He said and
• 1:24:26
  Then
• 1:24:26
  He was asked you're approaching the fourth anniversary of this special military operation
• 1:24:33
  you still haven't met the goals and
• 1:24:37
  He said is that is that correct?
• 1:24:39
  He said don't mix earlier phrases with today's reality
• 1:24:44
  There is no time limit Russia is moving forward
• 1:24:48
  The process is continuing and nobody is making any prediction that it will end by the four-year mark
• 1:24:58
  He said
• 1:24:59
  Will Putin and meet with Zelensky?
• 1:25:02
  He said only if a comprehensive draft agreement is prepared and leaders resolve a few remaining issues
• 1:25:09
  It's not and not a mere photo opportunity any bilateral or even trilateral with Trump
• 1:25:16
  Meeting must be carefully prepared and produce a serious final result
• 1:25:23
  And he said after nearly four years can either side win. This looks like a sale stalemate
• 1:25:28
  He said it's not a stalemate
• 1:25:31
  He said local Ukrainian successes are media spin to keep Europe financing the war
• 1:25:38
  So if you hear anything positive on the Ukrainian side, it's only to get money
• 1:25:43
  Russia has the initiative and is advancing daily along the front lines and that's true
• 1:25:50
  I've been bringing that to you for a long time
• 1:25:52
  How long can Russia's economy sustain the war?
• 1:25:56
  He said years our economy is self-sustained and autonomous the EU narratives about chip shortages are total nonsense
• 1:26:03
  Russia's defense production doesn't need any external aid and resources exist internally for everything
• 1:26:11
  He said
• 1:26:13
  Another winter what has to happen for a ceasefire before the year's end?
• 1:26:18
  He said if armed supplies to Ukraine are cut off a ceasefire would only be weeks of months away
• 1:26:25
  Russia's facing NATO as a system, which makes progress slower, but not impossible
• 1:26:32
  Then they got into the Norway and Denmark
• 1:26:35
  German Poland drone
• 1:26:38
  Nonsense
• 1:26:39
  He said Denmark and Norway offered no evidence. No characteristic of drones
• 1:26:44
  Only Poland is worth of discussion and even theirs were unarmed decoy
• 1:26:51
  Herbera drones that fall into Ukraine. They cannot fly from Russia to Poland
• 1:26:56
  So they had to come from Ukraine is what he said. He said that Russia proposed expert level
• 1:27:02
  Consultations Warsaw went to NATO instead and on the house strike the debris as I've brought to you before is about fallen
• 1:27:10
  anti-aircraft missiles
• 1:27:12
  not Russian drones and
• 1:27:15
  The possible cause were Ukrainian redirection or jamming or deliberate provocations by Ukraine
• 1:27:21
  They talked a little bit about peace plan in Gaza, but I'm not gonna get to that. We're running out of time
• 1:27:27
  Can Trump deliver peace in Ukraine?
• 1:27:32
  Yes, if he's serious about peace rather than one-sided support to give in my experience Trump listens
• 1:27:40
  And this is Kellen speaking listens
• 1:27:42
  Understands roots of the conflict better than his predecessors and his team is interested in solutions
• 1:27:49
  Great power agreements should be used to work issues not drive further
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  Consultations and the last question had to do with Moldova and Czechia elections in the EU path
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  interference in such elections the West claims that Russia interfered in the
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  elections Moldova, you know
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  He rejects any interference, especially in Moldova and argues that it was the EU that poured money in
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  Visitor backed pro-eu parties with lots of money polling station allocations abroad
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  Disadvantaged Moldovans residing in Russia like I brought to you before
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  Moldova to the EU he doubts they'll be admitted in the near future
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  They're the poorest country in Europe
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  And the Balkans are still waiting to be admitted says EU propped up a failing party
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  Elections were distorted by pro-eu actors and Western money and that Russia didn't have any interference and
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  when he was pressed he said
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  Russians exist in
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  Lots of places and the country is split 50-50 and he condemns the EU side
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  distortion not
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  Kremlin
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  Operations and so I finished just about everything I wanted to get to today
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  it was a
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  pretty good set of interviews and
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  information that I heard I
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  Encourage you to listen to damn radio daily to get your dose of damn radio
• 1:29:29
  Listen to international flavor, especially this is my last show for the week. I will be back on Sunday night. You can listen to
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  International flavor
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  Dot-com where you can go for all past performances and you can download them or listen to them at damn radio
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  calm forward slash
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  Podcasts, I appreciate you being here and I wish you a pleasant. Good night
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  damn radio