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Mac & Bone Show - Jones Angell Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk some tar heels baby uh what a showcase
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  Speaker 2: game this is um but it's a tough one that
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  Speaker 2: comes with the showcase game notre dame noon on espn
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  Speaker 2: and of course i know what the tar heel fans
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  Speaker 2: are gonna do they're gonna turn the sound down and
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna listen to our next guest jones angel call
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  Speaker 2: at 11 a.m pregame on the tar heel radio network
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  Speaker 2: for the noon start and of course in charlotte Listen
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  Speaker 2: to Tar Heel Radio Network on our sister station, WBT.
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  Speaker 2: Jones Angel is the voice of the Heels. Jones, what's
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  Speaker 2: going on, man? How are you feeling this week?
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  Speaker 1: Doing great, guys. Good to be back with you, as always. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what a challenge this weekend. I just think in getting
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  Speaker 1: ready for Notre Dame some this week, man, this is
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  Speaker 1: a really, really good football team, really complete, just not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of weaknesses. They check every box. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's probably the best team Carolina's played this
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this, guys. Maybe back to 2019
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  Speaker 1: when Clemson came in, number.
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  Speaker 3: One, Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 1: That was that game where Carolina went for two with
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  Speaker 1: about two minutes left with that really young team. That
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  Speaker 1: was Mack Brown's first year of his second tenure. Sam
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  Speaker 1: Howell was the freshman QB that year, and he'll fail
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  Speaker 1: on the two-point play, lost 21-20. But this is a
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  Speaker 1: national championship contender for sure in Notre Dame. And so
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  Speaker 1: for Carolina, obviously the Heels are better. Obviously the Heels
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  Speaker 1: are not a national championship contender at this moment. They're
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  Speaker 1: not a finished product. And so it'll be a good
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  Speaker 1: opportunity for them to see where they stand and try
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  Speaker 1: to compete with one of the very best in the
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  Speaker 1: country this year.
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  Speaker 4: Jones, for so long the question about Notre Dame was
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  Speaker 4: can they ever get back to national title contention. And
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  Speaker 4: you said right there, they're in that mix. What do
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  Speaker 4: you think it is about Marcus Freeman and what he's
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  Speaker 4: found and what he's done for the program that has
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  Speaker 4: put them back on that level?
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they played for, what, two years ago? So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think they've been there here recently for sure. And
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  Speaker 1: I know they missed the playoffs kind of controversially last year,
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  Speaker 1: but obviously had a very good team. Yeah, this is
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  Speaker 1: totally my opinion. Obviously, I'm looking at this from a
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  Speaker 1: far perspective. But one thing that impressed me about Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 1: and what I think is the right way to do it, guys,
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  Speaker 1: now it's a lot easier to do it when you're
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  Speaker 1: playing at the level that Notre Dame is financially, et cetera,
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  Speaker 1: is they've stayed consistent with their team. And by that,
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  Speaker 1: I mean their roster stayed pretty consistent. You look at
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  Speaker 1: their roster, for the most part, not exclusively, but for
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  Speaker 1: the most part, these are guys who have been in
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  Speaker 1: their program for multiple years. And then what you do is, oh, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know what? We really feel like we need to
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  Speaker 1: go get a quality– cornerback. Well, then they're going to
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  Speaker 1: go into the transfer portal and they'll go get, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a DJ McKinney, who's going to be a start, you know,
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  Speaker 1: started multiple years at Colorado and then they bring them
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  Speaker 1: in and now he's going to start for them. And
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  Speaker 1: so I think the way they've been able to build
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  Speaker 1: their roster again, much easier said than done when you're
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  Speaker 1: playing at that financial level is the way to do it.
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  Speaker 1: And the way to be, in my opinion, the most
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  Speaker 1: successful in this very turbulent time of college athletics. And
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  Speaker 1: so they have a lot of guys back. That would
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  Speaker 1: be the number one thing. And this isn't breaking news
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  Speaker 1: that they've got talent. And so when you've got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of guys back and they're talented players and they've
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  Speaker 1: been in your system a couple of years now and
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  Speaker 1: they've kind of naturally moved up from, hey, a backup
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  Speaker 1: and I'm the starter and now I'm starting two years
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  Speaker 1: in a row or whatever it might be, that's a
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  Speaker 1: pretty good formula. And I think you see it working
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  Speaker 1: for Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so speaking of formula, we do this thing, Jones,
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  Speaker 2: every Thursday for the Panthers, a victory formula. Sometimes the
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  Speaker 2: team goes out and does those things.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes they do not.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't they just listen to you every week?
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  Speaker 3: That would be so much easier. It's unbelievable. They might sometimes, Jones.
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  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. So I want to ask you, like there's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Carolina's a three touchdown underdog.
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  Speaker 3: Essentially.
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  Speaker 2: You've just talked about how good they are and what
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  Speaker 2: makes Notre Dame so good. What are the things Carolina
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  Speaker 2: needs to do to like, I think all you want
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  Speaker 2: right late middle of the fourth quarter, you're right there
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  Speaker 2: with a chance to win. How could they make that happen?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Number one is you cannot beat yourself. And I think
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  Speaker 1: when you see these games Notre Dame has played this year,
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  Speaker 1: two of them, Rice and Purdue, they just ran away from.
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  Speaker 1: Michigan State and Wisconsin were competitive games into the second half.
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  Speaker 1: And in each of those instances, there was a key
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  Speaker 1: mistake by the opposition. In fact, I think, guys, they
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  Speaker 1: were both interceptions that really flipped the game. And Notre
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  Speaker 1: Dame just jumped all over the mistake. And so you
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  Speaker 1: cannot have a pick six. You cannot have a punt
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  Speaker 1: that gets blocked. You cannot have... a 50-yard game that
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  Speaker 1: gets called back because of a hold or something. So
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  Speaker 1: you cannot beat yourself. That's number one. And then for Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: I do think the Tar Heels have proven here through
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  Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks they've got a solid run game.
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  Speaker 1: They've got a solid defense. You've got to lean on
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  Speaker 1: those a little bit. You've got to lower the possessions
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  Speaker 1: in this game. You need to possess the football as
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  Speaker 1: best you can, move the chains, kind of all that
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  Speaker 1: boring stuff. But I think if you do those things–
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  Speaker 1: That gives Carolina a chance to be in this game.
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  Speaker 1: As you said, you get into the mid.
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  Speaker 3: To late third quarter.
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  Speaker 1: It's early fourth quarter and it's 21-17 or it's 24-7,
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  Speaker 1: you know, whatever. Then all of a sudden it becomes,
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  Speaker 1: I think, a different situation. So got to play clean
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  Speaker 1: football and you got to rely on your strengths in
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  Speaker 1: this game if you're Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: Jones, when you look at the start for the Heels,
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  Speaker 4: the schedule getting tougher here starting with Notre Dame in
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  Speaker 4: the next couple weeks, in your mind, what do you
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  Speaker 4: view now as a successful season at the end? If
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  Speaker 4: there's a number they get to, would you say, all right,
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  Speaker 4: that's a good season for the Heels?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anything's changed in that regard for Carolina
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  Speaker 1: just because it had a bad second half against Clemson
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  Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago. I think it continues to be
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  Speaker 1: can Carolina show progress? Can this be a team that's
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  Speaker 1: getting better? Can this be a bowl-level team? Can you
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  Speaker 1: get into that area by the end of the season? Now,
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  Speaker 1: as you said, I mean, Notre Dame, Miami's coming soon.
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  Speaker 3: They're very good.
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  Speaker 1: Carolina goes to Pitt next weekend. Pitt's had a great
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  Speaker 1: start to the season. So there are plenty of roadblocks
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  Speaker 1: along that journey for Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: But I think it's the improvement. I think it's the.
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  Speaker 1: Consistency, which you have seen to this point. But do
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  Speaker 1: you see it for another nine weeks for Carolina as
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  Speaker 1: the competition ratchets up week in and week out? I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the most important thing for the Tar Heels
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 2: Jones what do you think about the quarterback situation Belichick
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  Speaker 2: did say this week hey it's going to be Edwards
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  Speaker 2: we talked to you about it last week and you
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  Speaker 2: kind of discussed you know O'Neill Burgess the young freshman
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  Speaker 2: do you think this game in particular is one where
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  Speaker 2: there will be a shorter leash on Edwards or do
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  Speaker 2: you not feel like like in this game would be
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  Speaker 2: the time they would make a change.
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  Speaker 1: It does feel like a challenging game to make a
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  Speaker 1: change just because of the level of the opponent that
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  Speaker 1: you're playing. And guys, I mean, I think also you
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  Speaker 1: look through Bill Belichick's long, successful tenure and he's not
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  Speaker 1: one to just kind of willy-nilly change the quarterback or
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  Speaker 1: be flipping guys back and forth and, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: to try something different. He really, in my opinion, seems
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  Speaker 1: to be, okay, you know, we've decided this is our
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  Speaker 1: guy for now.
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  Speaker 3: You know, let's move forward with this. How do we
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  Speaker 3: make it?
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  Speaker 1: How are we best successful with the situation that we're
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  Speaker 1: currently in? That doesn't mean that he's not open to it,
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  Speaker 1: but he just doesn't seem, if you look through the
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  Speaker 1: history of his coaching career, to be a guy who's
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  Speaker 1: just going to change it just to change it.
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  Speaker 3: And so it feels.
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  Speaker 1: Like a challenging week to do that. But at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day, Carolina needs to win games. That's
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  Speaker 1: what they want to do. That's what they're there to do.
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  Speaker 1: And so I do feel as though if that's what
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  Speaker 1: is best, he's going.
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  Speaker 3: To do it.
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  Speaker 1: Because one thing about Bill Belichick, guys, all he cares
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  Speaker 1: about is trying to win the game.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't care if it's 63-62 or 3-2.
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  Speaker 1: He just wants to try and win the game. And
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  Speaker 1: so I think ultimately, while he's not going to be
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  Speaker 1: reckless about it, I think he will make the decision
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  Speaker 1: that it's just going to best give his team a
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  Speaker 1: chance to win.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Jones, always good talking to you, brother. Pretty
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  Speaker 2: soon we'll be getting, you know, we might tail end
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  Speaker 2: the football season. We'll get a little bit of hoops.
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  Speaker 2: into these conversations.
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  Speaker 1: Carolina plays a week from today or a week from
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow they have an exhibition uh a week from tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: and in greensboro against usc it's crazy how fast it's
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  Speaker 1: all it.
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  Speaker 2: Is crazy heck we got um media day here basketball
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  Speaker 2: media day uh coming to charlotte.
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  Speaker 4: Virginia and vanderbilt are playing outside on sunday coming up this.
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  Speaker 1: Week they already played yeah They've already played outside.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, they did that already? Okay, I missed that one.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was last weekend, so it's wild. Already here.
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  Speaker 3: I missed that one.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost go time, baby. All right, well, we'll talk
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  Speaker 2: to you about that pretty soon.
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  Speaker 4: Now, you've got to know somebody to know somebody to
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  Speaker 4: get to score these games.
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  Speaker 3: That is true, though. That's a secret, Jones.
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  Speaker 2: You won't be able to tell us anything, will you?
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  Speaker 3: Let us know, Jones. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: These are wide open. We're broadcasting that game.
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  Speaker 3: Tickets available. Carolina, USC, and Greensboro.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Is there TV on that one? I mean, I know
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to promote your radio network.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, there is, Steve.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, all three games... Carolina plays three exhibitions this year.
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  Speaker 3: They've got that one. They play Indiana in Indianapolis, and
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  Speaker 3: they play Charlotte with Wes Miller. Oh, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: It's coming to the Smith Center. All three will be televised,
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  Speaker 1: and we've got all three on the radio network as well.
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  Speaker 3: Love it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's cool.
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  Speaker 3: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Jones, bring in the info, man. All right, Jones,
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  Speaker 2: have fun calling this one on Saturday, man.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Talk to you next week.