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Prisco and Boselli Recap Preseason Week 1 Victory | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, August fourteenth. This is check Wars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and
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  Speaker 2: now a guy whose launch angle is only surpassed by
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  Speaker 2: his exit velocity, Jay p Chetrick and welcome in.
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  Speaker 1: It is Monday. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by
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  Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans. JP Shadwick with you from the Hundai Studios.
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  Speaker 1: We're on Tenjinxcel Amjaguars dot Com, Jaguars Social media of course,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube plenty on the show today. Pro Football Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame left tackle Tony Vasselli coming up. CBS Sports
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  Speaker 1: senior writer Pete Frisco. Of course, we'll get their thoughts
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  Speaker 1: of preseason week one, the Jaguars winning Dallas over the
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys Saturday, a preview of practice this week. Practice we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about practice Wednesday Thursday against the Lions before the
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  Speaker 1: preseason Week two game in Detroit at Ford Field. We're
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  Speaker 1: keeping it real as we always do, and fanatics fan
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  Speaker 1: questions are coming in hot and heavy today on X
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  Speaker 1: posts on X Tony and Pete coming up shortly. Let's
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  Speaker 1: hear from Jaguars head coach Doug Peterson today reviewing the
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  Speaker 1: performance of the first team offense.
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  Speaker 3: You know, obviously the one throw slipped out of his
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  Speaker 3: hand and all that, but you know it, I thought
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  Speaker 3: the way he rebounded and you know, threw a nice
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  Speaker 3: touchdown pass obviously the Christian and then the two point
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  Speaker 3: conversion to say, I thought were great ways for our
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  Speaker 3: offense and for Trevor to to finish their night.
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  Speaker 1: Quarterback Trevor Lawrence after the game discussed the performance also
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  Speaker 1: an interception, early bounce back though with a touchdown, and
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  Speaker 1: overall a pretty good feeling at the end.
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  Speaker 4: Besides that one throw, thought it was pretty clean. You know,
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  Speaker 4: from an offensive perspective, some things need to work on.
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  Speaker 4: We had a three and out on their second drive
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  Speaker 4: as well. That wasn't great. So starting at a little faster,
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  Speaker 4: can't turn the ball over, you know, put our defense
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  Speaker 4: in that situation. But I think we know that just
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  Speaker 4: just bad throw by me. So you know, we'll watch
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  Speaker 4: the table. We'll get better, and that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 4: I think we're getting better every day and I've seen
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  Speaker 4: it through training camp and just continue to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Jags offense fortunate they threw that interception on the second
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  Speaker 1: play of the opening drive and then had a three
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  Speaker 1: and out. The ensuing punt return fumbled recovered by the
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  Speaker 1: Jags to set up a short field and they went
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  Speaker 1: forward on the fourth down to get that touchdown. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: more coming up, including a pretty nice night for the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars defense Saturday, and all the availity availability from after
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  Speaker 1: the game available on Jaguars dot com. Of course, it's
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday. CBS Sports senior writer
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  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco joining us now Tony Boselli coming up in
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  Speaker 1: just a little bit. Pete, good afternoon. What's up man?
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  Speaker 5: You know JP?
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  Speaker 6: I just said Tonia text and he's probably driving so
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  Speaker 6: he should be reading it.
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  Speaker 5: But what I said was, we've been doing this show
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  Speaker 5: for how long?
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  Speaker 7: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Three of us six at least maybe seven or eight.
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  Speaker 6: Why is the intro always like we're just like guests
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  Speaker 6: on the show or something.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta get a word in edgewise. That's why, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I get my stuff done. And then here's the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the show. Is yours.
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  Speaker 8: Going to join the.
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  Speaker 5: God?
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  Speaker 6: I know you just seventy fives I heard every come
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  Speaker 6: on to fix that.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing. Yeah, absolutely no doubt about that. So,
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  Speaker 1: uh that aside Pete glad we got started on the
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  Speaker 1: right foot.
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  Speaker 5: I got.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt. You just heard from Doug Peterson Trevor Lawrence there.
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  Speaker 1: The offense wasn't great and then they scored a touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: They spread the ball out to some of those playmakers.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is not a game plan situation. They
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  Speaker 1: were running some things they wanted to ron, getting guys
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  Speaker 1: touches and just kind of getting in and out of
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  Speaker 1: the huddle on Saturday night.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think Doug Peterson protected Calvin Ridley on
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  Speaker 6: dis play. I don't think the ball slipped out of
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  Speaker 6: his hands. I really don't. What happened was Ridley's route
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  Speaker 6: was a crosser and then he started heading up the field.
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  Speaker 5: You can see it.
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  Speaker 6: Look, he gets about ten yards past where he's supposed
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  Speaker 6: to be and that allows that guy to come to
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  Speaker 6: meet to play.
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  Speaker 5: Otherwise Ingram's wide open.
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  Speaker 6: And I think what happened was it caused Trevor to
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  Speaker 6: kind of lynch and double clutches a little bit, and
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  Speaker 6: that's why it sailed. I think, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 6: I think Doug protected Calvin Ridley on that play because
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  Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley should be drifting ten yards up the field.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, number thirty who made that interception kind of
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  Speaker 1: drifted back on the ball there. That makes sense to
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  Speaker 1: mexactly what happened.
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  Speaker 6: So but again it's a bad throw, bad mistake and
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  Speaker 6: probably should have thrown it into the crowd.
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  Speaker 5: Look you can see it again here.
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  Speaker 6: Look he's drip drip, drip drip, and the defensive into
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  Speaker 6: the play.
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  Speaker 5: So I can't fault really for that one.
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  Speaker 6: And then I think you and I think the offense
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  Speaker 6: is what it's going to be this season.
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  Speaker 5: They were working to get back up so at it
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  Speaker 5: they're going to be really good on nobody's nobody needs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we'll see, you know what happens, but
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  Speaker 1: the first time out, you gotta have some things to
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  Speaker 1: work on. They were fortunate though they got that third
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  Speaker 1: possession right after the fumble on the punt return to
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  Speaker 1: at least give him an opportunity. Bucky Brooks thought that
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  Speaker 1: maybe they were going to be done after those two
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  Speaker 1: drives until the quick change sudden change got him back
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  Speaker 1: out on the field, and then they went forward on
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  Speaker 1: the fourth and three and cashed it in with a
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  Speaker 1: touchdown to Christian Kirk on the back.
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  Speaker 6: End, which was a really well designed play and Christian
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  Speaker 6: Kirk was wide open.
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  Speaker 5: By the way this played at two point play, Trevor
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  Speaker 5: kind of held.
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  Speaker 6: For a second. He had to fight open in the
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  Speaker 6: back of the end zone. It ended up working out,
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  Speaker 6: but uh, you can see it right yeah there, No,
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  Speaker 6: that's touchdown boy play on the two points. You can
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  Speaker 6: see he's open in the middle of the field. He
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  Speaker 6: got a way. But you know what the best thing
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  Speaker 6: to come out of it the tackles, well, the tackles
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  Speaker 6: tackles well. I thought Little did a nice job and
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  Speaker 6: Anton a fantastic right down For a rookie, he was outstanding.
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  Speaker 5: And again he gets back up JP. That's Sam Williams.
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  Speaker 6: It's a good player, that guy, either counting on the rush,
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  Speaker 6: the pass or at the apice. So I thought all
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  Speaker 6: that the best thing to come out of the offensive performance.
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  Speaker 6: Both tackles.
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  Speaker 1: We'll hear from Tony coming up and just a little
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  Speaker 1: bit on that tackle play. But you know, in my
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  Speaker 1: very elementary way, I will say it is as advertised
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  Speaker 1: for Anton Harrison in those feet, Pete, he can move
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  Speaker 1: and and get off the ball and get back and
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  Speaker 1: move around, and uh, it just looks a little bit
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  Speaker 1: different in a good way.
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  Speaker 5: It does.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, the one play that he didn't make,
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  Speaker 6: he allowed the he allowed Fowler to come down the
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  Speaker 6: line and make the play on the backside run that
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  Speaker 6: that he'll realize the speed of the game. He's got
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  Speaker 6: to get a little bit on him and get to him,
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  Speaker 6: you know, chip a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Or get to him. I just you gotta be impressed
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  Speaker 5: with that.
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  Speaker 6: I think another thing from the offensive line, Fortner looks
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  Speaker 6: stronger and played stronger. Yeah, he played, and that's important
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  Speaker 6: for that run game, and I think it's gonna be
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  Speaker 6: big for them this season. The tight end block rookie
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  Speaker 6: from Penn State is the maller and he's not afraid
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  Speaker 6: his head and shoulders and people when he pulls through
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  Speaker 6: and leaps through as the lead guy and trapping guys.
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  Speaker 6: So I think when you look at that group, you're
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  Speaker 6: gonna run the ball better. And you saw on this
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  Speaker 6: play he came down the left side of the defensive
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  Speaker 6: line with a crunching block.
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  Speaker 1: Were watching the play the big run and Tim and
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  Speaker 1: Luke Farrell on the right side of the tackle, on
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  Speaker 1: the right side of the line, and I think Farrell
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  Speaker 1: actually pancaked his guy. Yeah he did. And the Briton
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  Speaker 1: Strangers like five yards down the field pushing him down
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  Speaker 1: the field, and.
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  Speaker 5: That was a problem last year they couldn't block the edge.
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  Speaker 6: So I think when you add those two into the equation,
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  Speaker 6: with the ability to block down and create room, I
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  Speaker 6: think it's picked for the run game. Stronger Fortner big,
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  Speaker 6: better blocking tight ends well in the run.
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  Speaker 1: Defensively, Pete, you know, starting group got a little push.
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  Speaker 1: Devon Hamilton had a pretty good game. Roy Robertson Harris
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  Speaker 1: was called out by the coach today, had some good rushes.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't get a lot of time on defense, but
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  Speaker 1: when they were out there, the starting group looked good.
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  Speaker 1: At Andre Cisco whipped on a sack. It set it
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  Speaker 1: up for Hamilton to clean it up in the I
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  Speaker 1: think the first possession for Dallas. But then even some
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  Speaker 1: deeper guys were getting some players. Sere Abdulla had some
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  Speaker 1: nice rushes in the game. Pete, and that's a guy
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  Speaker 1: you know they're gonna have to count on a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like on the edge and overall the defense,
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I had a pretty good night.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is Bullis sack and what I liked about
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  Speaker 6: is he kept kept going. You know, a lot of
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  Speaker 6: times get around that corner the balls out, but the
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  Speaker 6: ball wasn't out, and he kept going. He had another
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  Speaker 6: rush later in the game, and he also had a
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  Speaker 6: couple of tackles in the run game.
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  Speaker 5: I think he was active, he was impressive. I liked
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  Speaker 5: him coming out of Louisville as.
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  Speaker 6: One of my favorite guys draft and I think they
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  Speaker 6: got to be excited about what they sold from him.
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  Speaker 6: Another guy that I thought played well was Devin Lloyd.
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  Speaker 6: Last year, Devin Lloyd played slow. He was thinking too much.
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  Speaker 6: He wasn't reacting. He reacted in this game, and again
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  Speaker 6: it's it's a preseason game, so there's not a lot
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  Speaker 6: to digest and put on his plate. But he seemed
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  Speaker 6: much faster, much more physical. He came up and blasted
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  Speaker 6: a guy in the whole on a run play. He
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  Speaker 6: just much more active and athletics wasn't spitting around. I
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  Speaker 6: think that's that's progress in the right direction.
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  Speaker 1: Nine snaps to your point, Pete, So not a huge
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  Speaker 1: sample size there, but even in that short time on
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  Speaker 1: the field, yes, you can tell that, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: is a little bit clear, at least early. I'm curious
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  Speaker 1: how how much they're really going to play this week.
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  Speaker 1: With all the practice reps against the Lions, I would
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  Speaker 1: I would guess most of the starters will get a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time. Most of their time there. That's what
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  Speaker 1: you go up to Detroit for, and you know, see
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  Speaker 1: how those practices go, and then maybe he pulls the
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  Speaker 1: jersey away from him and getting ready for Saturday in
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  Speaker 1: the game. So let's say how those practices go to
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  Speaker 1: see if any of these starters get more time this week,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 6: And I remember having a conversation with Philip Rivers a
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  Speaker 6: long time ago, and he said, look, I go to
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  Speaker 6: these practices, these joint practices, I get so many boom snap,
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  Speaker 6: so much better work than I do on the preseason.
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  Speaker 5: I take ten snaps.
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  Speaker 6: So I think, saying pretty spot on, I think the
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  Speaker 6: starters will get a lot of work, particularly on first day.
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  Speaker 5: Second day.
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  Speaker 6: They'll tape down a little bit, and I would be
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  Speaker 6: surprised if they played the preseason games.
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  Speaker 1: You wouldn't play the Week three either.
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  Speaker 6: I'd play week just a little bit, because if you
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  Speaker 6: don't play in Week three, you you go what six
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  Speaker 6: weeks without playing a game, and that would what do
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  Speaker 6: we have from Week one?
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  Speaker 5: To week one. That's a long time. So I would
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  Speaker 5: him something.
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  Speaker 6: If I don't play him at this game, play him
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  Speaker 6: a little bit in week three, Yeah, just.
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  Speaker 1: To maybe get him a quarter, a couple of drives,
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  Speaker 1: same idea, right, I mean.
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  Speaker 6: You want to get tackled, you want to tackle that
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  Speaker 6: probably slee girl seed tackle no tackle, practice, no track,
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  Speaker 6: no tackle and practice, and you're not gonna if you're
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  Speaker 6: not gonna going to the game. Ibe'd you go a
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  Speaker 6: month without tack month? Five weeks that tackling? Maybe that's
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  Speaker 6: why they like those games.
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  Speaker 1: Season, right, people going up and down the field on
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  Speaker 1: everybody's points, and so it worked early in the year.
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  Speaker 1: That's Pete Prisco. I'm JP, Shadwick, Tony Boselli coming up.
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars headed to Detroit this week after a preseason
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  Speaker 1: Week one win in Dallas over the Cowboys. A couple
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  Speaker 1: other notes from the evening on Saturday night, Ross mattisk
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  Speaker 1: the long snapper, has a shoulder issue. Doug Peterson said
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  Speaker 1: today he should be fine, but the Jaguars did sign
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  Speaker 1: Carson Tinker, who was with the Jaguars for four years
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  Speaker 1: to begin his career. He's bounced around the NFL. He
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  Speaker 1: told me before practice. He was actually playing co ed softball,
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  Speaker 1: that's what he was doing. So he got the phone
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  Speaker 1: call to come in for a little bit and snap.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he'll get some tape in a game, and who knows.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of how it works. If you have that
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  Speaker 1: skill as a snapper, that's pretty valuable. Those those those
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  Speaker 1: reps come in. It can win or lose you a
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  Speaker 1: football game.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, you never find out how valuable those guys are
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  Speaker 6: until you don't have one on game day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, god, yeah, that's what happened on Saturday night, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean they couldn't.
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  Speaker 5: It makes for better season games to go for it
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  Speaker 5: all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, that's what we right up your alley, right,
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 5: This eliminates SAMs. Get them out of here.
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  Speaker 1: You can get an extra tight end or somebody you
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  Speaker 1: don't need.
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  Speaker 5: To play football. Play football. Kickers and punters play football.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I thought that first group did a
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  Speaker 3: really nice job of putting pressure on the quarterback, you know,
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  Speaker 3: whether it was five and and really it was four
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  Speaker 3: four man rushes. You know, Roy had some really good
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  Speaker 3: rushes interior, you know, on the guards. I thought Trayvon
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  Speaker 3: did a nice job coming off the edge in the game.
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  Speaker 3: You know, so that first unit you could feel, you
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  Speaker 3: could feel the pocket sort of collapse around the quarterback
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  Speaker 3: in those first two drives, and and that's what you
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  Speaker 3: want to see. It did affect. It did affect some
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  Speaker 3: of the throws, you know, So we were pleased. A good,
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  Speaker 3: good first day for them.
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  Speaker 1: I said coach Doug Peterson earlier today on a zoom
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  Speaker 1: call with the media, and welcome back. It is Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour. It is Monday, heading into week two of
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  Speaker 1: the preseason, JP, Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony BISSELLI coming up shortly.
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  Speaker 1: We're on ten tin xl AM Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: And I would say I was gonna say tweet us,
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  Speaker 1: but that's how accurate anymore. Pete, we talked about this
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  Speaker 1: last week when you were on with us. It's now
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  Speaker 1: posts on X tweets on Twitter.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we change everything every year, right, does
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  Speaker 6: it really matter?
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  Speaker 5: It's the same thing everybody freaks out about.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, how dare weah?
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. And we got plenty of
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  Speaker 1: posts on X. We'll get to a little bit later
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  Speaker 1: with the fanatics fan questions, which are always a hit
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  Speaker 1: with you and Tony. That's how that goes. Defense. We
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  Speaker 1: touched on some of this group a moment ago. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the real starters in this group got what nine snaps?
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  Speaker 1: Hard to take a whole lot away from the outside.
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  Speaker 1: But Doug Peterson did confirm today that Jadevian Clowney was
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  Speaker 1: in the building yesterday. Didn't have a lot to say
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  Speaker 1: about it. Do they need to go do something like that?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is it too early for that. Maybe they're
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  Speaker 1: just dipping their toe in the water to see for later.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they're dipping their toe in the water.
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  Speaker 6: The guy had two sacks last year. Is he gonna
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  Speaker 6: amp up their pass rush? He had Miles Garrett on
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  Speaker 6: the other side, he had two sacks. He's not a
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  Speaker 6: great pass rusher. He's a good, sound, solid, tough football.
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  Speaker 5: Player, but he's not a great pass rusher. So if
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  Speaker 5: you're sitting there thinking he's gonna amp up the pass rush,
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  Speaker 5: I don't mind.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's more of an indictment by the way
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  Speaker 6: Chase On than it is because I think was good the.
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  Speaker 5: Other night, really good, Chase On good.
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  Speaker 6: He's okay, not nothing, nothing made No, But I do
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  Speaker 6: think Abdullah is good enough to be in the rotation.
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  Speaker 5: And again against a backups.
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  Speaker 6: We got a temperate a little bit, but he is
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  Speaker 6: good enough to be in the back But has Chase
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  Speaker 6: On showing anything?
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  Speaker 5: They keep raving about them all summer. Have you seen it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? No, no, I mean, but I mean it's been
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  Speaker 1: one game, right, I mean to his you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: been two weeks of camp, and and how many snaps
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: do he play in the game?
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: So how many of you play?
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I'm looking you.
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: Know.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: It's so the sample size well now, Also the other
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: argument is that he's had three years of sample size
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: right right, and.
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: They need more of the past rus know that we
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: know that that has to happen.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: But is he the answer?
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: He played twelve snaps?
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And I thought Jordan Smith showed some stuff later
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: in the game.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: You know, and that's that would be a heck of
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: a story, right, guys, has had two different injuries, missed
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of time, has not played in a game yet.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: It's like year three, right.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he flash again.
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: Though he's working against somebody who's not going to be
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: in the league, so it's hard to gauge it, which
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: is why I always go back to kind of when
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: the ones who work against the ones, and that's what
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: you get real idea. But they didn't have anything because
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: the Cowboys didn't have any wars, so.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: It's tough evaluation.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: But I thought Walker had a nice rush, but you
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: know when it came when he sliced inside, it was
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: it was a move. It wasn't winning with his hand,
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: though he did later in the game he had one
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: work seemed like he was better with his hands, So
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: that's important.
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: But you mentioned the cow guys. It's good things. Rushed
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: the panser.
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: I think Boyd's going to be more active rushing the passer,
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: which I think is a good thing. And the get creative. Uh,
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: that's how they're have to manufactor pass rush. Here's another
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: JP stop the damn run. If you stopped the run
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: and put teams in passing situations and have an exclusive
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: offensive play with the league your pass.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Rushing, that's exactly how it works. And they feel like
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: they've got the interior defensive line guys to be sturdy
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: up front. They've paid enough money to that group where
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: they better feel that way, and they've got the leagues
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: leading tackler behind them, so, you know, and they feel
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: like the pretty strong at safety, so strong up the
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: middle and all three layers of the defense. That's at
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: least the feeling going in.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: You know, you mentioned that the down guys and how
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: much money they put into that position, because there's a
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: lot of money invested them huge. Hamilton was outstanding last year.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: Roy Robertson Harris the beginning of the season was really good.
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: Middle of the season not so good, down the stretch
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: and into postseason really good. So he's got to play
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: like that all year. Photocosta was heard yep, and he
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: didn't play very well.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: They're raving about him this camp though, Pete, so.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: That makes sense.
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: If he plays like they expect him to play, then
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: those three guys are set and that's a good crow,
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: which will help choke off the run, which will enable
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: teams to be in third down pass the situations which
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: you could turn your pass rushers.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Loose, even if they're not going to should be able
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: to get third.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: And eight is much different than third and four in
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: this league. Pete.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think Mike called well another year winning
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: a for him scheming things. You know these guys better,
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: They know him better. He knows do certain things. Remember
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: he was kind of flying by his pants last year,
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: So I think he's gonna be better, has to be better,
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: and if he's better, there as.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: A group would be much better pushing the pantsers.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: See what happens on that one. Hey, there were some
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: good performances on deeper in the game, Pete, especially in
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the secondary. You guy like well, he actually was pretty
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: early in the game. Gregory Junior, second year corner, has
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: a fumble recovery on the special team's play Ross mattisk
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Official didn't officially he did force it. He didn't get
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: credit for it. He should. Tim Jones got the credit
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: for the force fumble, but Junior recovered it, and then
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: later he goes down later in the first quarter and
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: strips the ball out at the one yard line from
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the receiver and saves a touchdown. He's one of those
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: guys that was pointed out by the coaching staff last
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: week is really having a chance at that third corner spot.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: So you keep having performances like this where you're around
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the football on the football part of takeaways, no matter
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: how they come. That's a great sign for him.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but recovering a fumble on a kickoff is an accident.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, you can't count. That's fine.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: He made a great play, a great hustle play on
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: the play where he knocked the ball loose, and by
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: the way, Thomas.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: Beat a great play in the hustle play to go recovery.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: He certainly did. Yes.
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was on the other side of the people
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: when he watched the twenty two tape and he came
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: flying over there.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: He could easily quit on that plight. He didn't. But
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: here's the thing that's going to decide whether Junior's the nickel.
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: Can he cover period, not not punch the ball out,
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: not diving on fumbles. Can you cover a man de
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: man situation? Because in his own situation, Trey Herndon could
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: do it. Problem with Trey's when they play man and
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: man he has issues with.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Can the rest of him play man?
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: That's to be You won't know until you play really
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: good slot receivers. You know, the young guys have flashed
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: in camp as well's done some good things. How it's
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: done some good things, and Junior has been better. But again,
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: when you're lining up against the top tier slot receiver
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: and he's got a too Bay goal on can you handle?
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I mean they do it every day right with Christian
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Kirk out there against him. In theory, it's good.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Work for me.
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: But again, driving on a punt, punching the ball loose
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: is a good decide.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: That's good football player. That means he's.
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: Playing good football and he's around the ball. It's not
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: gonna decide who.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: In theory if if whoever wins the gig is not
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the best man corner, do you have to adjust your
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: entire scheme otherwise or is that kind of set So
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: what you're saying is outside guys, outside guy.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: If Trey Hurd is a ticke a corner, again, do
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: you have problems to try and get man basically, which
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: you say, yeah, probably try and keep away from cuting
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: them in those situations. As more as possible, but that's
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: hard to do. It's hard to do. That's why you
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: love to have a guy who's capable matching up in
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: the slot. And you have enough gunk guys that could
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: do it. Yeah, at least have a chance to be
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: able to file on trays. A good fight to little player,
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: but you're limited, get run, and when you can't run,
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: hard to cover man the slot.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: And this is why they drafted these guys the last
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: two years in the deeper rounds to see if they
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: could maybe mine somebody into doing it. So, who knows,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. That's a training camp of the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: preseason games are for the start of the NFL season
• 23:47
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• 23:50
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• 23:53
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• 24:03
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• 24:18
  Speaker 7: It's great.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: You know, we had a couple obviously it was such
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: a small like you said, sample size. You know, it's
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: it's different when you play full game and you get
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: different looks and you kind of progress as the game
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: goes and you kind of get get settled in. Obviously
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: that's you can see more.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: But I thought you did a great job. That's some
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: nice catches today.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: I thought we were really efficient when we did decide
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: to throw the ball today, obviously besides the interception. So
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: I think those were those were positives. I think we
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: ran the ball well. But you know, a couple of
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: plays here and there, a couple of negatives, so you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: and like I said, the three and out wasn't great.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, we're gonna keep getting better.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: He's gonna keep getting better.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: It's Trevor Lawrence, of course, Jaguars quarterback after the game
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: in Dallas Saturday. Asked about Calvin Ridley and a few
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: snaps they had together in the game against Cowboys and
• 25:03
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• 25:19
  Speaker 1: let's start with Ridley and his debut with the Jags,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: well preseason debut, Pete. I was running open a couple
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: of times. We saw the one on the interception, also
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: had a couple of catches in the game. Now, obviously
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the coverage is different, there's not a lot of that
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: going on. It's that's planned out. So uh, he's moving
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: around like you had thought he would, let's put it
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: that way.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And then you.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: Saw him in practice playing the slot some inside of perk,
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: which I thought was interesting and I think they would
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: use him in that role for.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: You try and create matchups to this sleeve, whether you
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: wherever you put him.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: And I think he's got the speed that scares the
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: hell at a everybody, So I get it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: I like moving him around.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: It wasn't a dynamic night for him, but you've seen
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: it all summer.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: I saw it when I was there. The man can run.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: He can run routes, and I think at times almost
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: he goes too fast and you have to harness it
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: a little bit. And I think he's starting to get
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: into that a little bit. You see the great receivers
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: they know how to harness that speed, and I think early.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: In camp he was going so fast. But man, he's got.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: A great combination speed and the ability to run routes
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: and that's gonna be tough to defend. And you only
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: saw a little bit of that. I can't I know
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: you guys going up there. I'd give be great to
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: see him this week against the Lions because I think
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: there's an opportunity to show that he really could do.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how goes the Lions secondary Pete better?
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: I mean they went out and spend money on it,
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: so you know they got to be better. Added, they
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: drafted your Alabama branch who's been really good this season
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: this year. They signed Charncey Gardner Johnson, so they've added
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: pieces to second there.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: So it's better to be much better test.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: For branches like a heat seeking missile.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: Pete like he just remember he did it all about
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: and then he got painted because he wasn't timed at
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: a great time and they wondered what could he do
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: with the safety the hybrid?
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: Does he played Nickel?
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Just a good football players around the ball right right.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Find a way to get them.
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: So I think that'll chance for Ridley to go show
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: people what he what he can really do.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Looking forward to that coming up. Obviously, Christian Kirk had
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the touchdown catch in the back of the end zones.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: A Jones got his two point play. Uh, they gave
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: a look to Ingram Officially he didn't have a catch
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: in the game. Some guys later in the game had
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: a couple of catches as well. Cooks, Stray Jenkins, Seth Williams,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Snoop out of the backfield had a couple of catches
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: in the game. Britain Strange had two also for a
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: short yardage.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: So you know, some of those young receivers look pretty good,
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: though the big guy.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: There's a bunch of tall guys that are like on
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the you know, six five, six seven, maybe on the
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: bubble of making this team. Pete, you've been.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: There more than me. But if Jenkin splash that kind
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: of ability a.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Little bit, it felt like this was more than he
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: did in practice to me just first glance.
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: Not that he hasn't had some opportunities and that game
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: didn't catch any balls.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: He had some opportunities and he's had a good summer.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the two the tall guys like Cooks is one
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: of those guys that is like six foot four or something.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Either're massive and they don't.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: They don't have that figure. The four are.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: Definite, right, you got the three starters, An Agnes. You're
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: gonna have the kid from Penn State. He didn't catch
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: a pass, it's gonna return a punt, so he's gonna
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: be on.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: It, right, Parker Washington, Yes.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: Right, So then got to pick a six receiver.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: So it's you know, a guy like Tim Jones has
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: been around here right special teams ace, he's probably I
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: talked to him the other week. He understands what this
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: is like. They've got enough receivers here. He's got to
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: really perform on special teams to make this team.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: And he's and that could decide to get it.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: He's the incumbent, right, so it kind of makes sense.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: So if a guy like Elijah Cook six four two
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: fifteen comes in and can play on a gunner and
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: do all that stuff, fine. Jacob Harris is another guy.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: He's six five, two eleven pete and he's a third
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: year player out of Central Florida. So yeah, I don't know.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: Special teams will decide that, absolutely, no question.
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: The other guy's the practice because nobody's from picking them up.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I mean that's that's what it is. That's
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: exactly what it is.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: And you hope unlike you know, Josh Olive going off
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: into the sunset or Alan walking off into the sunset.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only two there's it's a longer list than that.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know we can keep going.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got two hours unfortunately to fill that time. Hey,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: running game. We saw Snoop Connor on the on themographic
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: for on Jaguars dot Com for a couple of receptions
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: in the game. But Tank Bixby had that thirty four
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: yard run. It was really blocked up well on the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: right side of the line by the tight ends. He
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: bounced it out and then you could see his open
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: field speed once he was out there. Pete, he's he's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: got a little something to him. Dejanis Johnson's been around
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: the league. Five carries thirty one yards in the game,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: including a twenty six yarder Travis eat and Junior five
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: for twenty two and then Snoop had seven carries in
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the game. But hey, I think they were in situations
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Saturday they wanted to see some short yard edge with Tank,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: see what he had to offer because that was kind
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: of the the resume with him a little bit at Auburn,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and he's not afraid to go up in there. And
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think they converted every single one of those situations,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: but you want to at least know that it's there
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: if you need it, and maybe it's something to work
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: on moving ahead.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: Well, didn't they have the third one and he got lasted. Yeah,
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: you get it, that's right, he's got a at that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: It was a guy in the hole. He's gotta he's
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: gotta win that. He's gotta win that.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: But I was impressed with him, and he's an impressive
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: ball camp. I mean, he's he's a tough, physical wonder
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: and he has heed to kind of run away from guys.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: So the question becomes, how do you use it? And
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: you know you don't want to take too many Carris
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: me t but you gotta take. But I thought Dan
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: last year learned how to roam, He learned how to tougher,
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: Remember he didn't take as many shots, learned how to
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: turn his body in the hold.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: The first half of the season. Last year, he is
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: like heads over heels like.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: Remember he was essentially a rookie. He didn't understand the
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: speed of the game. So how do you Bigsby? Is
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: Bigsby the short yardage guy? Is he he come in
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: and you know, spot him for a series or do
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: I think that's how you use him.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: But he's an impressive kid. And here's the other thing.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: Your team gets better when you might have to cut
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: a guy who was the team of year.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: And that's a good time. I mean, the kid of it, Connor.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, you don't want to cuts like that, but
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: if you're getting the young draft pick, and he's better
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: to be in that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Situation, right, And I mean Snoop Connor last season had
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: very little play on offense and didn't do much on
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: special teams at all.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: So hey, make a decision to get a tough decision there.
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: But again, there can be better running all short yard
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: situation because of Bigsby works bigger, Serf's.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: Healthy and the tight ends can block. That's gonna be
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: important for them. Hey.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: By the way, Ben Bartsch was back at practice today, Pete,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I think they're actually they just finished I think about
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: ten minutes ago. They had an afternoon practice today, but
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I was out there for stretch and speaking of that
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: interior offensive line, which we'll get to more offensive line
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: coming up up with Tony. But hey, Bart's after about
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: the ten month mark with the knee. Andrew was out
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: there and he was he was playing pretty well early
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: in the season and having that big body out there
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: could help that.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: Hants played okay at left guard the other day. It
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: wasn't great, but he's physical enough.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: They have bodies.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: Now, you know you look at it, they have bodies
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: because Ants can play tax So he's done that. He's
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: spotted him before a teams you have Shadley. Course, the
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: rookie did some good things physical. He missed a few blocks,
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: missed few assignment. He did some good things.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: And I'm sure Tony I watched, but I'm sure Tony
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: a lot of this.
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: And then the backup center actually did some pretty good things.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: So they had He's and Wells was good there. I
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: think you might have been the best tackle the other night.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: He's ten years in pretty good right.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: But yeah, but that's the nice for me because he
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: hasn't been good here.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: But the other night and and so who wasn't great
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: the other night Cam Robins, I didn't think he why
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: rushers give up? Didn't look as good as he passed. Uh,
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: you know, they're gonna have a tough decision to make.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: They really are. And I was there a couple weeks
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: ago Jeane for net something saying that the offensive coach
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: said Cam Robinson was going to get work at left
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: hard had that materialized at all?
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: The Cam Robinson stuff, I haven't seen it, okay, but
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I haven't been out for I haven't watched Walker. I
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: know Walker certainly has.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: Yes, So they're gonna have a tough decision. But we're
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: gonna when Tony gets it, we're gonna talk to him
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: about this. I think we both think of on the
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: same lines. But they're gonna have a tough decision to
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: make Cam Robinson.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: He was in the game the four quarter with the.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Right exactly. That's why it's been I think a lot
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: in practice too. I mean, if Walker Little is getting
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: the number one reps, sometimes somebody's gonna get the rest
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: of them. And that's what it is. You got to
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: get your guy ready for the regular season opener.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they're gonna it's gonna be an interesting
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: four weeks to start.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: The season, you know, And you know how this goes,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Pete like football, happens, A month of football happens, and
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: it might just naturally take a turn like you don't know,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I not don't want it to happen that way, But.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Where does it take the turn? Does the rookie go
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: bad at right tackle? And then you have to walker
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: little there.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Or yeah that or you know, god, God forbid, there's
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: an injury or something crazy happens like that, or the
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: yuards playing great, you don't want to move him? Then Okay,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Then then it becomes a decision.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: If the left tackle isn't playing, which I don't think.
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: I think he's I think I think he's good. He's
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: gonna be good. But if he doesn't play well, then
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: you gotta start thinking about the future.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Right, and then it's like a bigger question is then
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: there's this season.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: It's that topic, Doug when I was there, and you know,
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: they don't want to about the future.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Don't worry about Yeah, yeah, it's a little early for that,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: Me, I'm a look at the future, right.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: They haven't even you know, suited up for week one yet,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: so yeah, but you got you gotta go, That's what
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I do. I mean, but if you yeah, and that's
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: what I'm sure the GM has probably thought about this
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: at some point, but he's not gonna admit his training camp.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: But what what what, here's the thing.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: He's got confidence in his guy. They're gonna play well, right.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: Promise it makes a lot of money. But just because
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: you pay him a lot of money doesn't. He's gonna
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: go back into the line. And that's where you're gonna get.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: That's the toughy situation right there. M hed a guy,
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: make it, make it sixteen million.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: It's a lot, and.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: He was working with the three in the fourth quarter.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: It's a lot. But hey, if you're if the line
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: is mauling people in the first four.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: Weeks, Okay, let's say that play that one out.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Let's just say they're mauling people and forget the record, right,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Let's just say they are running the ball. What's that
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: three and one and they're mauling people. They're running the ball,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: they're great on short yard edge, they're the quarterback's been
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: clean for the most part. Why would you change that?
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: I would? I would not. I'm with you. And here's
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: the other part of that.
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: They're gonna be in London, so he's gonna have to
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: flight to London and join them against Buffalo. So in
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: that scenario, he doesn't play five weeks from well.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I mean they do have first class seats. It's not
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: like it's he's gonna be sitting coach, right.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: You're not working at the offensive line.
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: You gotta OHESI viewed it. That's now working well together?
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: Do you take the take Walker Little out?
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. And yeah, and you're right, it's
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: in London. It would be at one of those countryside
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: resort hotel places where they have a field set up,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: but you're out there and yeah, is that the time
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: to start mixing up the line and doing reps of
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: all places?
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: I don't Know's if it's a group that's playing really
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: well and you're three and one, no, so that means
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: you go to week five. So you know, at some
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: point maybe it happens. But you also got to once
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: you get later in the season, you gonna start thinking
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: about next year because he isn't gonna be be real.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: He's gone.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's all that dead money kind of goes away, right.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's dead. He's gone. He's gone. So that means
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: Walker Little has to be your left tackle. Next year.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: So the Jags are home week six, So Week five
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: of course is Buffalo in London, and then week six
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: home against the Colts, and then there's a Thursday night game.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: A quick turn.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Here's the other thing.
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Jp the teams that they played the first four weeks
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: of the season aren't exactly knowing for their edge rushers. Hmm, right,
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: he had the city known for their inside rush with
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: Chris Jones.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: He not even there yet week one.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: What do you got with Colts Indianapolis.
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: Not known for their edge their inside rush host well,
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: Will Anderson, he's still a rookie.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Atlanta they have nothing. So Buffalo is von Miller the first.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: One, and we don't know von Miller is going to
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: be back.
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: But they have a lot of Russo bashed uh Epinesse
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: and Rushy Floyd, so they have guys. But again, if
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: they play well first weeks of the season three and one,
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: why would you make the change?
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean because you got it's three and one
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: at that point, and then you got four weeks, get
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: to the bye week and maybe reassess. Then right week nine.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: If they're playing well, you're not making a chance.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But if for some reason it
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: turns the wrong way, then you can make another decision.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: Right, you could.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: If they're going well on into the middle of the season,
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: toward pushing towards November, why would you make that change
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: because he's not going to be here next year, enterway
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: right right.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: I'd love to know if he's getting guard walk.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: It'd be interesting to see. Absolutely. I'll keep a better
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: eye on that training campus. I'll look in in Detroit
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: when you know, we'll see how many reps they get
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: because it's going to be.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: The offensive line.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: Coach said it a couple of weeks ago, and I
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: had anybody seen it?
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly I have it either. But like I said,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I haven't wanted every single rep, so I cannot.
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: And by the way, somebody said trade him, and I'm like,
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: you never know when this league.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: You gotta have learned that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Less exactly, I mean an interior and out on the outside.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Last year they had changes.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't do that.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Hey, plenty more head will come back in a moment,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson will discuss Anton Harrison's performance. Speaking of tackles,
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: I thought Anton was another one that you really saw
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: his aggressive this you saw us at athleticism. Again, some
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: things we can clean up and you know, improve upon.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: But again I thought, I thought.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Overall, he did a nice job, you know, first time out,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: and really it really showed the type of player that
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: that he is. And obviously you know the reason why
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: we drafted.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Him, I said coach Doug Peterson, of course, on the
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Zoom call earlier today with the media rehashing the Jaguars
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: win in Dallas, Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Final
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: few moments of the opening hour with CBS Sports senior
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: writer Pete Prisco. We'll have Tony Boselli coming up in
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: the second hour of this show. We'll say goodbye to Pete.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Or We've got the new studio here at the Miller
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Electric Center. And we will get everybody back together. We'll
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: get the band back together very soon, Pete.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: So I don't get to beat him up. Yeah, you
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: know this is not the same on a Monday when
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: we're not beating him up. Tony at JP, don't ever
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: call me tonya Pete. That's a bad one.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, what are we doing here?
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: You can call them anything else you want.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: I got to give him credit. He's skinny.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: He is really skinny. He's been working at it. Man.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: He was in here last week, Pete doing push ups
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: between commercial breaks.
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: See.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: And I'm in the process of getting skinny too. But
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: I'm not as skinny as he is here.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: But Pete, you've been in the weight room.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: It looks like No.
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: I actually have been working out all but not in
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: a lot of weights.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: I'm down about twenty five pounds.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Good for you, Yeah good.
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: I want to get even skinnier. But BISSELLI looks fantastic,
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: looks like a shoals.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: He's got to get that jacket recut again.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: No, that coming. I mean he got out weeks ago,
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: but he went to camp.
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: And he got enough with that. We went through a
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: whole year. I mean, ifore fifteen years of that, not
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: of that poor jacket.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: No more. Uh Pete uh cover Pete Brisco or CBS
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Sports senior writer Tony coming up in just about six
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: minutes or so at the five o'clock the second hour.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: So all right, Anton Harrison. We touched on him earlier,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Pete and his feet and his ability to move, and
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: he showed a lot of that. Now, granted, he did
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: play a little bit longer than the first team that
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: got nine or was it nine snaps? I guess for
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys on the first team, not many.
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: He stayed in longer though. Yeah, he and Walker Little
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: stayed in for a couple more.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Another series checking the Anton Harrison had twenty two snaps. Yeah,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: how about Cooper Hodges played sixty.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: Eight snaps and did enough to keep an eye on.
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: It's interesting. He's an interesting player.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: He pancaked one guy.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you he's physical.
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: He might be one of those guys keep around. But Harrison,
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: back to Harrison, I love my cell phone. Sam Williams
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: is a group player. The Kallas is counting on Sam
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: Williams to rush the passer, and he did a nice
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: top against him. So you got to be encouraged by that.
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: And again this week you go to Detroit. We know
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: Hutchinson can rush the passer, James Houston can rush the passer,
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: and they have guys to get after, so it'll be
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: a bigger test for him from that standpoint.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: This week fun to watch for sure. Where are you
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: this week?
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: Pete? What do you back down? Off the road?
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I got poising in.
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: Green Bay on Tuesday, which was wonderful, and then I
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: sat on a plane for six hours on Thursday.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: What was it from? Do you remember?
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: You know those little like uh.
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: You know, beef jerkey, kind of like little things that
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: you put with cheese. It was just like a quick
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: snack because we hadn't eat an all all day, so
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: I took a couple over my mouth.
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: I never never recovered. Was twelve hours later and I
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: had to go see the packers teap dog. They hooked
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: me up.
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: Oh no, And I was supposed to fly at ten
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: thirty four And he doesn't say that fight up for stout.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Oh no. It's the worst feeling ever.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: Can't do anyhow, get your disney go up, dizzy. I
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: was light headed. I had to cloud get out of
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: the hotel. The walk around. I felt, and then six
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: hours on the plane Thursday, JP.
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: Six hours we left Atlanta, we got the wunder the
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: airport's clothed. They turned us around, started going back to Jacksonville.
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: Then they went to Orlando. I lived doing out six hours.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Wow, what a story, What a way to close the show,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: at least the first hour of it. Pete will talk
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: to you again next week after the Jags get home
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: from Detroit.
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: You got it. Take care jab.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, CBS Sports Senior Rider. When we come back,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli back with us for the second hour. This
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: We know our defense, our defense knows our offense, and
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: sometimes it just goes back and forth where not too
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: many people win.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: But here you get to compete against another.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Team in a controlled environment. You know your starters are
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: going to get the bulk of the work this week.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: And you're still again, you're still evaluating. We're still in
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: training camp and evaluating. But the fact that we get
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: to see a different team, different structure, those are all
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: things that are beneficial to us as a football team.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's head coach Doug Peterson earlier today on
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: a zoom call Welcome Back. It's the second hour of
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Mister Chubby's Wings J P.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Shadwick with you. We had Pete Prisco's CBS Sports senior
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: writer in the opening hour of the show, Tony Boselli
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: coming up shortly. The Jaguar is coming off will win
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: and preseason week one, twenty eight, twenty three over the
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at AT and T Stadium. That was on
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon and evening. Jagg's starting offense had an interception
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: from Trevor Lawrence in the second throw of the game
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: for him and then a three and out, but then
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: after getting a possession back on the ensuing punt fumbled
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: away recovered by the Jags short field, the starting offense
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: went back out there and cashed in a touchdown after
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: that takeaway, and Lawrence finished the day five of six
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: passing thirty six yards, a touchdown and an interception. The
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Jags starting defense was solid overall, two takeaways on defense,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: four sacks overall. In the game, the starting group looked
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: pretty good, though most of the starters for Dallas were
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: not out there either way. Some good work for that
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: group reports that Jadavian Clowney was in the building the
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Sunday on the off day. Doug Peterson did not
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: have much to say about it today when asked in
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: that media zoom call. So now it's on to Detroit.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Practice Wednesday and Thursday at Allen Park and then the
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: game Saturday at Ford Field and downtown Detroit. Two good
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: days of work against a football team that a lot
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: of people feel could be a force in the NFC North.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: My that division has certainly changed over the last year
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: or so with the departure of the quarterback from Green Bay.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: We'll see if the Lions are ready for prime time.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: It may not be quite yet it's training camp, but
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: it'll be at least a couple of good days to
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: work some talented position groups on both sides of the
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: ball for the Lions, and a good test for this
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Jags team. We're talking about it with Pete in the
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: first hour. You know, a lot of the Jaguars first
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: team players really on both sides, but let's start with
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: the offense might get a lot of their time or
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: most of their time in the practices, and if those
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: go well, I'd be curious when Doug Peterson decides, you know,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: how much do these guys actually play in the game
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: on Saturday at Ford Field. If they put together two
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: strong days of work, maybe that's enough for the week
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: because they'll get plenty of reps in the practices both
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: days and it's a controlled environment. So why risk it
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: to throw the offense back out there for you know,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: two three four drives whatever you think you normally might
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: have in week two of a preseason when you've already
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: got the work in that week against another opponent and
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: the guys in the trenches have had the work, you
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: know that. We'll see what happens. We'll see what Doug
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Peterson has in mind as the week goes along. I
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: think it's still a little bit too early to figure
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: it out. If for some reason the work isn't great,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: which I don't expect it to be. But if for
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: some reason it's not, doesn't look right, or something's going on,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: maybe then that decision could come to give them some
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: game time. Again, too early to tell. We'll see what happens. Defensively,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: same idea, right, I think you want to see in
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Detroit on the practice field some success in those one
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: on one pass rush situations against the Lions. The Lions
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: offensive line is pretty good. The tackles, notably, are good.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: So a good test. Josh Allen, Trayvon Walker. You see
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Abdullah who had a good game in Dallas at least
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: in his first outing. Bring it back to the practice
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: field and see if you can move on that. And
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: again Kayla and Chase On, Hey, it's time. This is
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: the time to step up and be on this football
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: team and get better in this training camp. And you
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: got to do that in Detroit this week. If they're
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: if they're bringing players in the building to talk to them, well,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: let's see it. Let's see Caleb On, Chase On step
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: up in a big way. And even some of the
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: deeper guys in the roster we talked about, who guys
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: who've been banged up and out. I mean Jordan Smith
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: his third year, he hasn't played a snap out of
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: UA B. Of course, originally went to Florida and then
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: was out of school there, ended up at a junior college,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: was it UA B and Birmingham. But he's six seven,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: two fifty. He's had two different knee injuries. If for
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: some reason he can continue to build and move forward,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: maybe you have something that not a lot of people expected. Still,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: let's call it a long shot, is what it is.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: He's going to get an opportunity to go out there
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: and play and continue to get better. Let's see if
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: that can happen this week against Detroit. And then on
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: the back end, right, I mean, this is a Detroit
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: team that has pretty good passing offense, good receivers, a
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: good chance for this secondary to get some looks. They're
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: still trying to figure out that third corner. Is it Herndon,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Is it a guy like Gregory Junior who was around
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: the football a couple of times at least on takeaways,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: But Kenny cover. To Pete Prisco's point, Kenny consistently cover
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: in the slot. And I think we'll find you know,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: we'll find out a little bit more and the more
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: situations you have in an environment like this week in
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Detroit for a guy like Junior to stay up up
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: and continue to play. And the young guys this year,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: there's really the two draft picks from last year late
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: the two draft picks from the later rounds this year
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: as well. You got to see them in live action
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: or as close to live action as you can now
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: those guys will probably get some time in the game
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: no matter what happens on the practice field Wednesday and Thursday,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: because you need as many eyeballs on them, as many
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: reps as you can with the live action with some
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: of those deeper corners, to really get an idea of
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: what you're working with here, and because there is a
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: tough decision to be made in the coming weeks to
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: make it tomorrow, but you'd like to kind of maybe
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: start moving in the direction of a decision at some point,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: maybe after this week, or at least have a favorite
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: or two and see how they finish up the preseason.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: But at some point, I mean right after that third
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: preseason game, I believe it's the Tuesday after. You have
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: to have that fifty three down. So which guys are
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: gonna make your team? First of all, do you like
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: enough to try to sneak onto your practice squad? Will
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: they make it to your practice squad? These are all
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: factors in building the roster moving ahead. So they've got
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: some work to do, and so the next week ahead
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I think is really key for a lot of areas
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: because you have a piece of tape now in the
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Dallas game to start with you've got the coaching points
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: from that game. We can take to the classroom this
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: week and then get ready for another opponent against the
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Lions two days on the field. This is where the
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: preseason in training camp really turns one way or another
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys trying to make the team.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: They might have had a decent report to in the game,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: build on it right. Maybe you didn't have such a
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: good game. Okay, we'll have a chance to go back
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: out and perform and get better and see if you
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: can build your resume again in training camp. Tony Viselli
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: with us down prior to the Jaguars left tackle, Hall
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: of Famer, all the above. You know him, you love him. Hello, Tony,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: you can have to do How are you doing doing well?
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Getting ready for the Lions game? The Lions practice is
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: coming up. But let's rehash. We had Pete on the
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: first hour. We've got Tony on the second hour, so
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: which we'll have a pretty good idea of which hour
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: has the best ratings. I don't know which is gonna be.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: That's your call.
• 55:23
  Speaker 8: Well, and sooner or later we'll get Pete and Eye
• 55:26
  Speaker 8: on for the whole two hours. Once we get this
• 55:28
  Speaker 8: whole new fancy stuff we have going on here. So yeah, JP,
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: I mean I was listening to you talk through and
• 55:37
  Speaker 8: you're a pro model. A little monologue off the cuff,
• 55:41
  Speaker 8: well done, by.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: The way, appreciate it.
• 55:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was a good job. A couple of things
• 55:47
  Speaker 8: you said that I find interesting. Is this team at
• 55:52
  Speaker 8: the stage And maybe it is just because this is
• 55:54
  Speaker 8: how the NFL works today, where you don't give your
• 55:57
  Speaker 8: starting units any reps even if you are practicing with
• 56:02
  Speaker 8: Detroit for those two days. I could see if it
• 56:04
  Speaker 8: was the last preseason game that would make sense. I mean,
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: we saw that last year in Atlanta where they got
• 56:11
  Speaker 8: good work and then they pretty much said that was it.
• 56:15
  Speaker 8: But this is the second preseason game. I don't think
• 56:18
  Speaker 8: it was a great showing in the first preseason game
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: by that one offense and the one defense was solid.
• 56:28
  Speaker 8: But they're playing against all backups, and so I'm not
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: sure this team's at the level where I would say, hey,
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: let's have two good practices with Detroit and call it
• 56:38
  Speaker 8: a day. I still think they can get reps. I
• 56:41
  Speaker 8: think reps are valuable. You have a young, young team,
• 56:44
  Speaker 8: You have a receiver in Calvin Ridley who hasn't played football.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: In a year two years? Almost? Yeah, I mean, so
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: how many would you give him in a game? Would
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: you go quarter?
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: I would go at quarter.
• 56:57
  Speaker 8: Now, if you're Doug and Trent, your is weighing the
• 57:00
  Speaker 8: risk reward. What's what do you accomplish in that quarter?
• 57:04
  Speaker 8: What do you get compared to the risk of something
• 57:08
  Speaker 8: you know, awful happening, which the game of football that
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: can happen on the practice field, by the way.
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: Is.
• 57:15
  Speaker 8: It can happen anytime. So I think that's always dangerous
• 57:18
  Speaker 8: to be worrying about. You have to, you have to
• 57:19
  Speaker 8: be aware of it. But making worst case scenario, you're
• 57:23
  Speaker 8: you know what you're going to do. Because that was
• 57:25
  Speaker 8: the case, you wouldn't do anything contact, he wouldn't do
• 57:27
  Speaker 8: anything and just wait to the first game, which nobody
• 57:31
  Speaker 8: is saying that's the right decision. I think reps with
• 57:35
  Speaker 8: this team would be good. I think Trevor getting you know,
• 57:38
  Speaker 8: a few a few more live reps.
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: It's different.
• 57:41
  Speaker 8: It's different for the quarterback even from sitting at practice
• 57:44
  Speaker 8: because he knows that practice he can't get hit. Now,
• 57:47
  Speaker 8: Trevor is not one you have to worry about. Shying
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: away from contact. I mean, he is a man who
• 57:53
  Speaker 8: has quite a bit of courage sitting in there and
• 57:56
  Speaker 8: taking shots as he's delivering the ball. So I'm not
• 57:58
  Speaker 8: worried about that. But you know, I think it's good,
• 58:01
  Speaker 8: and I think it's good for the young tackle. I
• 58:03
  Speaker 8: think Harrison has to play. I thought he was good.
• 58:07
  Speaker 8: I think I would play Walker little. I get him reps.
• 58:10
  Speaker 8: I mean he's still a young player who's really only played,
• 58:13
  Speaker 8: you know, a third of a.
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: Season in the starting position.
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: So now, if you wanted to sit out Sheriff, Okay,
• 58:21
  Speaker 8: I mean that makes sense. Sure, he's a veteran, he's
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: done a thousand times. He probably doesn't need another rep
• 58:26
  Speaker 8: to be ready for opening day. Now knowing him, he'll
• 58:29
  Speaker 8: probably want to be out there.
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: He's that type of guy.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Makes sense.
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you have to reel him in now. I just
• 58:37
  Speaker 7: think it'd be good now.
• 58:38
  Speaker 8: And I would love to see that starting defense, especially
• 58:41
  Speaker 8: if Detroit is gonna play their ones. That's a great test.
• 58:44
  Speaker 8: That's a good offensive line, that's a good they have
• 58:46
  Speaker 8: good backs, they have a good quarterback. They have you know,
• 58:49
  Speaker 8: receivers who can do some stuff. And let's not forget
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: they'd beat the you know.
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: What out of us last year up in Detroit.
• 58:58
  Speaker 8: Put until I would I would be one, regardless of
• 59:02
  Speaker 8: how practice goes, of getting at least a quarter in
• 59:05
  Speaker 8: with my starters. I think that's where I would.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Go Tony, Tony Boselli with us, of course, So we
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: can touch on that again a little bit later when
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: we keep it real, we'll dig a little more into
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: some of those matchups you'll see on the practice field Wednesday,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Thursday and maybe in the game even on Saturday at
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Ford Field. But let's rewind a little bit. You touched
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: on Antony Harrison and Pete and I talked about it
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: in the first hour. Just you're gonna have obviously a
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: much better answer and analysis on his performance. But boy,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: those feet are no lying Tony, he can move around.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: That was as advertised.
• 59:45
  Speaker 8: Oh he's a great athlete. I mean he's a fluid,
• 59:48
  Speaker 8: fluid big man. And that was, you know, as advertised, JP,
• 59:53
  Speaker 8: I think is the way I would say it. What
• 59:56
  Speaker 8: I also liked, I thought he was no it was
• 59:58
  Speaker 8: just the first preseason game he's playing against backups, but
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 8: I thought he was more physical in the run game
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 8: as well. I liked it.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 7: I mean I thought he had a little get.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 8: Off and he was trying to finish blocks. There's there's
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 8: urgency to him. I mean that was you know, for
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 8: his first debut in a live action on the field.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: I thought that was very, very positive. Now there's some
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 8: things he needs to clean up in his sets that
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 8: he gets away with because he's such a great athlete
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 8: that a better player.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 7: Is gonna put stress on him. I mean, there was
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: no stress for him in that game.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 8: I mean, you know, Dante Fowler is you know not
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 8: it was never a great pass rusher, and you know
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 8: he's older now, so you know, that wasn't a huge test.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: It was good to work against a veteran and some
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 8: of those younger guys that I couldn't even tell you
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 8: their names. He's gonna be facing, you know, much better
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 8: caliber player when it counts.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 7: But with that set, he did his job.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 8: Needs to clean up some stuff on the backside, you
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 8: know how he hands the backside.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: Especially on some of those counter runs.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 8: But overall, if I was Phil Rauscher, I'd be like, Okay,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 8: like I saw it in practice, I've seen it now
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 8: in the game field. This kid can play, and the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 8: one thing he can't do is past blot. I mean,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 8: he is athletic and he's a guy. I mean, he's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: gonna play right this year, but I mean he he
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 8: could play left.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 7: I mean that's what he didn't call.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 8: It, an athlete and so that was very positive overall.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: I thought the line was fine.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 8: They you know, probably struggled in the run game a
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 8: little bit early, but they got it going and Travis
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 8: and Bigsby another positive performance for a young player.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: But he has some chew, doesn't he.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Does right and the way they blocked it up on
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: that big run was huge and he just bounced it
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: out there and turned on the Jets.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah he has you know, there's a third and one.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 8: I'd like to see him maybe get the pad level
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 8: a little low and and get underneath that defender and
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 8: maybe he could get that you know, is that you
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 8: only needed a half yard, would have got the first
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 8: down early in that game. You know, little things like that,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: but that's you know, that's nitpicky. So you look at
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 8: the rookies. That was positive. I thought, really positive. You know,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 8: Trevor was fine. There was a dumb mistake early trying
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 8: to make something happen.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: We were talking about that earlier Tony Pete and I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: I mean just kind of looking at it again. You know,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: the throw wasn't that off. I mean, Evan Ingram was
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: back there, but the defender who was on Calvin was
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: drifting back and was right there. So well what happened there.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: It's a scramble situation because Calvin's so it's a levels route.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 8: You have Calvin, that's you have, you're underneath the first kind.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 8: I can't remember what tight end was. He was shallow.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 8: You had the crosser with Calvin Ridley, so he's running across,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 8: and then you have the rocal route. The burkeal route
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 8: was Evan and so the play was the timing was off,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 8: there was nothing there, so we got extended and Calvin.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 8: What happened to scramble rules, you know, certain guys will
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 8: go back to the ball, certain guys will break it deep.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: Calvin breaks it deep, which helped that defender be able
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 8: to kind of drift because Calvin started bending it off.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 8: Even with that said, Trevor's got to understand, he's he's
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 8: got to see that underneath guy, and you throw that,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 8: we're only Evan can get it. And so I'm not
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 8: against the overall decision, but that's a ball where you're
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna put it somewhere where it's going to take
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 8: a really nice catch by Evan to go run and
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 8: get it. And I'm going to take away the negative.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 8: It might not it might be an incomplete pass, but
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 8: it's not going to be an interception. And that ball
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 8: was just slightly underthrown, where.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson said to the Atlanta slipped out of his
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: hand a little bit.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 7: I don't know, Yeah, it.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 8: Was just I mean, but listen, I mean, come on,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 8: it's like I wouldn't worry about that. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 8: it's like, Okay, it's not the start you want, But
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 8: who cares.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: The coach can't come out and say, oh who cares?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Like he's got to he's got to put it out.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not saying Doug's gonna say that, but
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 8: I'm saying, overall, you look at the big picture.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 7: If anything, that's a great learning experience for you.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 8: I mean, Trevor's still a young player, and so it's like, okay,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 8: learn from it, which he has proven he does. And Okay,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 8: the rest of it, you know, was fine. I mean,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 8: they didn't do much. They were very, very plain, and
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 8: there was nothing. There's no creativity and stuff, and and
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 8: then they're you know, and then they're behind apall a
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 8: little bit because they lose the long snappers, so they're
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 8: going forward on every fourth down, every two point conversion,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 8: so on and so forth. But overall, you know, you know,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 8: after that, you know, the three and that was doing
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 8: disappointing thing. You want to get it, you know, especially
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 8: when you're where you are backed up a little bit,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: you want to get You want to get at least
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 8: for one first time. That was like the big negative
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 8: to me. You're playing against backups. You don't want to
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 8: ever go three and out with the offense we have,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 8: and I think if you're being critical at all, that
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 8: would be the one point that I would make. And
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 8: then defensively, first defense was fine. They did a good job,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 8: I thought. You know, there were some nice rushes by
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 8: Robert Robertson Harris. That was a nice rush. Josh Allen
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 8: had a nice one hand you know, one hand bull
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 8: leverage rush, got pushed. Trayvon had a good inside move
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 8: on a twist, got up the ball.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 8: Most of it was short, you know, short drops, so
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 8: there wasn't a lot of time to get there, So.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 7: I thought that was good.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 8: You know, Devin Uh, Devin Hamilton continues to do good
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 8: things out.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: There, Devon Hamilton, Devin Lloyd.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 8: Sorry, I was That's what I was thinking. I was
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: going there next with Devin Lloyd. Sorry, Devon Hamilton.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 7: Devon Uh.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 8: He didn't play a lot of snaps, but he looked
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 8: way more comfortable.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Said, that's what Pete said to He played like nine steps.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but you watched.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 8: Them there, it was smooth like he was like, first
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 8: of all, he made some great plays in the run.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 8: He stuffed the full back and I mean really physical,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 8: and then I just watching his drops and he didn't
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 8: have a bunch like to your point. So I'm not
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 8: gonna say everything's fixed, but it looked it just looked natural.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't look like the baby deer with the
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: legs like trying.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 8: To and he got back and made a sure tackle.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 8: You know, it was a bang bang catch drop right there.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 8: It's what you want. So I thought that was super positive.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Hey, Tony, let's come back. Let's let's finish that thought.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll finish the linebacker. We got
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: to talk about the corners too, and especially that third
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  Speaker 7: I mean, we got have a lot of depth.
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  Speaker 4: This is, you know, since I've been here, Definitely the
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: deepest we've been. I would I would argue every position,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: but definitely a receiver. You know, we got a lot
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: of a lot of really good players. You know, it's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: gonna be tough. You know, it comes down to the end.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: You know who's getting those last spots. And we got
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: a lot of really good players. And that's why preseason
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: is big. To see guys who makes the plays, you know,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: when it counts, when points go on the board in
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: these in these real games. Uh, you know, so it's
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: it's cool to see guys making plays. We have a
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: ton of guys making plays out there night, you know, Oliver,
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  Speaker 4: Elijah Jerre shoot. I mean a bunch of other guys.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: Snoop made some good plays. Q on the scramble there
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: at the end touchdown obviously, Nate and a lot of
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: guys on defense too. So it's cool to see those
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: guys battling and you know, doing everything they can.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: It's Trevor Lawrence, of course, discussing many of the offensive
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: players making the big plays in Dallas and welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: JP Shadwick with Hall of Famer Tony Vasselli recapping the
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Jaguars win over the Dallas Cowboys. Looking ahead in just
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: a few moments. We'll keep it real when we look
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: ahead to the Detroit Lions. The joint practice is Wednesday Thursday,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: then the game of course Saturday. Our discussion Tony continues
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: on the Jaguars defensive side, and we were starting with
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd, but that also kind of creeps into the
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Jaguars secondary too. We know the outside at least starters
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: at corner. The question is that third corner and did
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  Speaker 1: you what did you see out of some of the
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: names that were kind of thrown into that group. I agree,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Junior Antonio Johnson's been thrown in there as well by
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: the head coach. Just a couple of names of many
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: who are fighting braswell as another guy. I mean, what
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: did you what did you take from the game in Dallas?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, and I heard Pete say it earlier.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 8: I mean, Gregory and Junior is interesting. I mean, he's
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 8: obviously a guy who's around the wall, and you saw
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 8: that in the game against Dallas. There's no doubt about that.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 8: But I'm with Pete like, like, you'd love to see
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  Speaker 8: him cover like I don't remember watching it and seeing
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  Speaker 8: a lot of opportunities with him in the slot in
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 8: like a covered situational and a man. And then you
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 8: saw at the end of the game, Uh, the young
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 8: guy who got the interception does a good job sitting
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 8: in the zone and kind of reading the quarterback's eyes
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  Speaker 8: late in late in the game.
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  Speaker 7: I'm drawing a blank right now, sorry, j.
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  Speaker 8: So he made nice place. Trey Herndon makes some nice plays.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 8: You know, it looks like they're gonna play a lot
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 8: more zone. That's clear, at least they did in that game,
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  Speaker 8: because I mean, if Trey's out there, he's good against
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 8: the run and he's a smart player, but you know,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 8: I think you get exposed a little bit just because
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 8: of the speed when you're playing Nickel. I mean, when
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 8: you're playing if you want to play any man coverage
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 8: and we know they want to blit, so that puts
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 8: you know, basically his own books team at that point.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 8: So I I do think it's going to be interesting.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 8: I thought, you know, the corners, who who who made
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  Speaker 8: the nice break in the ball should.
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  Speaker 7: Have been to pick six?
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  Speaker 1: Oh Campbell, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 8: I can't. I think I thought some I thought some
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 8: of the young guys.
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  Speaker 1: Flashed by the way it was. It was Braswell who
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: had the interception.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Brad, well, thank you. He did a good job.
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  Speaker 8: It was easy just dropping in the zone. But he
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 8: does a good job of keeping his eyes on the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 8: quarterback from that position and good break on the ball.
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  Speaker 8: And that's you know, that's what you want to see
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 8: out there. You want to see guys make plays, react,
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  Speaker 8: do what you're asking him to do.
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  Speaker 7: And he did it, did it perfectly.
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  Speaker 8: So I mean, I think if you look at it,
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  Speaker 8: I mean who the Nickel is is definitely a big
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 8: question mark.
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  Speaker 7: I mean that's.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 8: Gonna be one of saying, you know, as you're looking
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 8: at the roster, you know, you know you got your
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 8: two outside guys right now, But who gives you the
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 8: most flexibility as far as when it comes to coverages,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: meaning you're comfortable.
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  Speaker 7: I think they're just gonna be more comfortable in his
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 7: own this year.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 8: Overall. That's the feeling you get. And then well, obviously
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 8: you want to put in some man schemes in there.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 7: But who can play the nickel?
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 8: I don't think that you're going to see a lot
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 8: of man covers and tray hern in there if he wins,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 8: if he wins that.
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  Speaker 1: Job in the zone stuff to you gotta be able
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: to tackle though, right because guys are gonna make catches
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: and zone and then yeah, you got to run absolutely,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: and they didn't do overall last year. They've talked about it.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: They got to be a better tackling defense as a whole.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean this defense got good at the
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: end of the year. JP.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 8: If you remember, you know, they were good early, pretty
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 8: good early, and then they got good down the stretch.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 7: And what was the common denominator? It was turnovers. It
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: wasn't like they got a bunch of stops.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 8: You know, Now in the Charges game, they did obviously,
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  Speaker 8: and when they got down a couple of times, they
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  Speaker 8: got you know, Ravens Cowboys, they got stops when they
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 8: needed to. So I'm not taking that away from them
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  Speaker 8: by a means. But they became an opportunistic football team,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 8: getting the ball to the ground, picking it up, making plays,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 8: and that's great. It's hard to count on that though
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: throughout the season. You want to be a ball hockey team.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: You want to strip the ball, and you saw that
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 8: again against Dallas. I thought they'd did a good job
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 8: with that, but you guys still, who's going to be
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 8: the disruptor? Who's going to disrupt on defense? And that's
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 8: the big question mark. Now we didn't get a chance
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: to see much because it was early, But that's why
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to the practice in Detroit. I want
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 8: to see how our front seven goes against a good
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 8: offensive front.
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  Speaker 7: All right, well coached.
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  Speaker 1: That leads us, Tony. It's like you've done radio before.
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  Speaker 1: a producer Tony. That's how apt that lead in was
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  Speaker 1: to this segment. What matchup are you most excited to
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: see in Detroit this week? Is it the Lions defensive
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: line versus the Jags O line. Is it Jaguars rushers
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: against the Lions tackles, or is it Mark Brunell versus
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli.
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  Speaker 7: It's not the last.
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  Speaker 8: One, so we can take that off the cord. The
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 8: only part I'm looking forward to is just hanging out
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 8: with my good friend a little bit and seeing him
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 8: out on the field and hopefully, uh.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 7: Maybe after hours, spend a little.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 8: Bit of time with him, having a couple of bottle
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 8: of waters and talking and talking shop.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 7: The That's a great question, because I want to see both.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 8: I want to see Aiden Hutchinson against Bob Walker Little
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 8: and Anton Harrison.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's gonna be fun. That'll be good.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 8: And they got that other rookie last years, like a
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 8: fifth to sixth rounder who ended up hitting Trevor if
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 8: you remember hit Trevor Low late in that game. He
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 8: was a sneaky good pass rusher if he looked. He
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 8: didn't get a lot of reps and came on late
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 8: in the year, and I think he got like six
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 8: or seven sacks by the end of the year.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Was it Houston, Yeah, Houston, James Houston.
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  Speaker 8: You know, he's an undersized guy, but really good leverage,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 8: good speed. He he was a little bit of a
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 8: problem for us last year if you remember that. And
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 8: it wasn't just for us. He got he got. He
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 8: had some production in the back half of that year
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 8: for the Lions on defense without a lot of reps.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 8: But I want to see eight touches against.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Those seas And was it him or was it Josh Pascal?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: There was two of them they had to in.
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  Speaker 7: The what was it? What number was Houston? I think
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 7: it was Houston. Hang on, Okay, sorry, I'm asking you questions.
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  Speaker 7: You know. So that's uh, that would be fun. But
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 7: and then seeing seeing Josh.
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  Speaker 8: Allen and Trayvon Walker against Penay and uh uh Decker.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 7: There are two good tackles.
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  Speaker 8: And today, you know, just reading stuff up there, it's
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 8: had a really good camp and so you know, he's
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 8: an athletic big man coming out of Oregon rookie rookie
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 8: two years ago. He's a good player and and so
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to seeing that. That'll be a lot
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 8: of fun. And that'll be a good test for both
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 8: Trayvon and Josh because those are Decker and Pine are
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 8: two good tackles.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, they're really good players. Yeah, and if we
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 7: can get.
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  Speaker 8: Something going there one on one, the one on one
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 8: pastor should be fun. But then you know, in team situations,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 8: you know, you're you know, they're gonna run a.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 7: Two minute drill stuff like that.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 8: Would like to see us get some wins because I
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 8: think they're you know, built in confidence and get a
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 8: good mindset going in.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, well James Houston ten is number forty
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: one for them and for the season last year had
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: ten tackles with eight sacks. Yeah that's the guy.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 7: That's the kid. Yeah, that's the kid.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Out of Jackson State.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's uh, he's a natural pass rusher.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 8: So I think, you know, I know, keeping it real,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 8: I'm supposed to pick one, but I'm gonna take both.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 7: I want to see. It's to me, it's watching those
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 7: lots of the.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 8: Line, both lines, because you have Detroit's done a good job,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 8: especially offensive line.
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  Speaker 7: Eight Hutchton.
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  Speaker 8: Obviously, the big conversation last year was him or Trayvon.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 8: We took Trayvon Hutchinton had a nice Rokie year was
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 8: productive and and I think.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 7: It'll be interesting to see, you know.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 8: How how our young tackles match up against a good
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 8: pass rusher and then the Houston kid.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 7: You know, eight sacks? How many guys on our team
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 7: at eight sax? Like?
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  Speaker 1: None? Right? None, no, none of the above. That was
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  Speaker 3: Thank Ross Ross injured his right shoulder you know on
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: the special teams play making.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: The tackle there.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be fine.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: He'll just be a little bit. So he's kind of
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: day to day and we'll see how he is in Detroit,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: you know, this week, but probably you know, probably leaning
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: towards holding him out.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 7: If he's if he's if he's sore.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to have any setbacks with
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: with him at this point. But day to day, we'll
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: see here see where he is at the end.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: Of the league, I said coach Doug Peterson earlier today
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: asked about the long snapper Ross Madison who made a
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: force fumble and then that's where he heard his shoulder.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: The day to day but apparently day to day enough
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: to sign Carson Tinker, who was on the streets. Former
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: Jaguars long snapper is back. He was on the practice
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: field today and there were it was funny Tony before
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: practice today, him out there, walk out because practice was
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: this afternoon. I didn't get to stay for the whole
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: thing to come in for the show. I'm out there
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: right before stretch. There's a lot of guys out there
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: early and there's you know, Josh Peterson's out there again
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: trying to just kind of snap a few just to
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: you know whatever. This is not the coaches aren't around yet.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: This is before stretch, and here comes the rookie full
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: back from Houston to try a few. And here comes
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: like another tight end. Hey, let me get a Everybody
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden wants to try a long snaff
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: and then Carson Tinger walks out. It's like, yeah, I'm
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: the long snapper. Guys, We're good. You guys are okay,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: It's all good, but you gotta have one.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 8: If I was a fullback or a backup tight end,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 8: I would spend a whole off season to figure how
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 8: to snap, because I mean, you know, it's a tough
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 8: situation for Josh Peterson that he was put into, That's
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 8: no doubt about it. I mean that's you know Doug
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 8: was going. You know, Doug was probably saying to himself like, Okay,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 8: I don't need to have a bad operation and get
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 8: my punter or anyone hurt back there. And secondly, I
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 8: don't need to go home and hear from his mom
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 8: that I put put her son out there in a
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 8: bad situation.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: On the over and over and over again, right over
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: and over again.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 8: I appreciate what Doug did. I'm like, you know what,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 8: it was the right football decision for the team, and
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 8: it was probably the right you know which Thankfully it
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 8: worked out as the right decision for going home that
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 8: night too.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 7: So it was a.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 8: Tough situation for Josh. But like a perfect example. I mean,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 8: this is something you know, word staking about Josh Peterson
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 8: at this point. But if you're a backup tight end
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 8: or a fullback or something, I mean, just think about this.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 8: Let's say, Josh, it's a skill and not everyone can
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 8: do it. So I'm just using Josh as an.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 7: Example here, But if you would have gone out.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 8: There and been ninety percent of what the starter was
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 8: ross was well, now all of a sudden you're like, oh,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 8: wait a second, this guy has value because he has
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 8: the ability to fill a gap that if he's you know,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 8: good enough tight end and maybe it comes down to
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 8: him and someone who might be just slightly better than him,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 8: but he has a skill that gives us comfort tonight.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 8: And that's the same thing for the young, young fullback
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 8: or any of those guys going out there. I think
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 8: it's smart. I would tell any you know, any young
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 8: guy who's you know, fighting to make a roster. Go
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 8: learn how to long snap, and if you can do it,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 8: take the time and get good at it, because that
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 8: gives you the ability to be versatile.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 7: Look at I mean, look at Shatley.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 8: Shantley has made a career, yes, and now he started
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 8: last year and did a good job as a starter
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 8: in my opinion.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 7: But he's a guy.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 8: He's the backup long snapper. You have confidence he can
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 8: do that. He can play center, he play both guards.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 8: He's reliable. You know that he's not going to go out.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 7: There and kill you in the sense of he knows
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 7: what to do.
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  Speaker 8: He's solid, he's a good football player, and look at
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  Speaker 8: the He's had a long career and done very well
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 8: for himself because of that versatility. So I think it's
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  Speaker 8: it's a lesson for every young player. You never know
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 8: what's going to happen, and if you have utility and
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 8: multiple multiple positions, you become You made yourself much more valuable.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. But you know it still
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: takes time and you're right, tony if you have that skill,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: though not everybody has that skill. That's why you go
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: out and get a guy on the street who was
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: playing co ed softball. Okay, we'll bring him in.
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  Speaker 8: What I felt terrible for Josh Peterson. I was I
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 8: was sitting there watching, you know, watching that game, going
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 8: I have rooting hard for this kid.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 7: I was hoping he could. I was hoping he could.
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  Speaker 8: Just sling it back there. And you know, because you know,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 8: it's a tough situation. You're you're fighting, you want this
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 8: is your dream to play football, and you know people
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 8: are out there like, oh, you're out here because your
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 8: dad's head coach and all that nonsense. It's a bunch
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 8: of you know craft. He wouldn't be out there if
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 8: he couldn't do it. And and so I was rooting
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 8: hard for him. I'm like, come on, come on, let
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 8: him sling one back there. And then then he sailed
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 8: that one to It was clear from that point on
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 8: Doug made the decision. It's like, we are going for
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 8: it if it's even like, I don't care unless we're
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 8: backed up inside our own probably thirty or twenty, which
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 8: they never ended up never ended up happening. You know,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 8: they were going to go for it, that's regardless, because
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 8: it's just not the risk because you're you're asking someone
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 8: to do something that they're not comfortable with. And that's tough,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 8: that's not fairy. Is a good coaches never asked a
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 8: player to do something they just aren't prepared to do because.
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  Speaker 1: They act so many other people too, right, I mean
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: it affects the punter, okay, and then all of a
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: sudden there's guys illegally downfield, there's a penalty. It's like
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: all that combines well, because.
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  Speaker 8: It's not just snapping, it's snapping, it's protection, it's everything else.
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  Speaker 8: And now you're putting your one of your better players,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 8: you know.
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  Speaker 7: You're punter, who's a great player. You know he's he
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 7: does so much and like, why would you risk that?
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 8: So I thought it was really smart by Doug to
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 8: make that decision.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 7: And uh, it was tough.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 8: It was tough, and but you know what, that's what
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 8: preseason's for and no harm, no foul. You go get
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 8: Carson Tinker, a guy you know who can do it,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 8: and we'll see what's Ross's status is. Shoulders go?
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: It seems like it. Doug Peterson made it seem like
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a long term issue for Matti six, So yeah,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: and at least for Carson Tinka. Hey, let's get a
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: game on tape and see what happens. The team sees
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: him still he's he still out there, and then you
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: never know. As the season goes along and we'll see
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: what happens there. The Tinker's there to handle it at
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: least this week. Moving ahead, we'll come back in a moment, Tony.
• 1:25:19
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• 1:25:28
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  Speaker 1: of Famer Tony Vasselli. We had Pete Priscoe in the
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: first hour. The Jaguars and the Lions coming up. Two
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: days of practice Wednesday Thursday at Allen Park and then
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: Fort Field the site for the game Saturday at one
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: o'clock kickoff in the preseason. Pretty nice early day. The
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: team will get back in a decent hour Saturday night. Hey, Tony,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: the ap Top twenty five preseason came out College football
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: right around the corner where was SC SC was sixth.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 7: Seah. I think they're pretty good. That quarterback's good.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: Now quarterbacks Williams, Yes, really good.
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  Speaker 8: Last year they got they got a bunch of transfers,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 8: you know, in this new world of free agency in
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 8: college football.
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  Speaker 7: A couple of SEC.
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  Speaker 8: Guys, a couple a couple of Georgia guys.
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  Speaker 1: Want I mean the whole the quarterbacks a transfer two
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: years ago.
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  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I mean Lincoln Riley's not afraid to go
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: out and snatch players from the places.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the wide receiver was too. I mean
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: they the whole thing is that's the way of the
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: world now.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's not. It's not the college football you.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 8: And I grew up with.
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  Speaker 1: Georgia is a number one looking for a three peat.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: There's only been officially one team or the last team
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: to do it. Let's put it this way. It was
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: in the nineteen thirties Minnesota won three straight championships. It's
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: been a while.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Michigan, they didn't even play everyone, but I mean
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 8: it wasn't even real.
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  Speaker 1: Have no idea, No, no, Michigan, Ohio State Alabama two,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: three and four. All right, let's do it. Let's do
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  Speaker 1: on X we've come up with at Unbiased Jag. Does
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Rurke have a real chance of taking QB two from Bethard?
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he has a chance, but I don't
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 8: think so, because, I mean, your backup quarterback is a
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 8: guy that you want to know that can fill in
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 8: and finish a game, and Bethard's a veteran, and I
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 8: think having a veteran presence in that room is probably
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 8: good for Trevor as well. He's seen a lot, he's
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 8: been around. Now, I'm not taking anything away from Rourke.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 8: The play he made was pagulous. And now there's a
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 8: new rule this year JP, if I'm not mistaken, you
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 8: can keep three quarterbacks. It does eat a roster spot,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 8: but you can keep him active.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: On game death emergency quarterbacks.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 8: So is there a situation where Rourke he makes the
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 8: roster long shot, but it wouldn't shock me if he continues.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 8: You know, he's got to play great in the next
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 8: two preseason games because he has a skill set. He's
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 8: at he's mobile, he can buy time in the pocket.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 8: He's a gritty, competitive guy. So he did himself well.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 8: But I still think it's a it's a long, it's
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 8: a it's a it's a big hill to climb JP
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 8: for him to beat out Bethar.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: Next question at DJ Delphonik. Hey, Pete, this is for Pete,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: but this is a fantastic Tony question. How did Walker
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: little look against the Cowboys?
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 8: Fine, it wasn't great, but it was fine for a
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 8: fine first preseason game. He gave him the edge on
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 8: a twist. He got a little over, a little top heavy, but.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 7: I thought he looked he's fine. He moved in space.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 8: Well, he had a couple of ice you know, they
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 8: had a little kind of post crack where he got
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 8: out there leading the way solid on his past sets. Yeah,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 8: in the short amount of time he was out there,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 8: I thought he.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Looked fine moving along at Tony Bee's henchman, did you
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: think the Jaguars will go out and sign a veteran
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: pass rusher before the season starts or just go into
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: the season with what we have.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 8: Well, they brought Jadavian Clowney in today. He left without anything. Yeah,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 8: he didn't do get me too excited. He only had
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 8: two sacks last.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 7: Year, nine years before.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 8: But he's you know, he's a veteran body who is
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 8: a big, powerful guy. I think they're gonna keep their
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 8: eyes open. I think they you know, the one thing
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 8: we didn't talk about, and I don't know if you
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 8: and Pete talked about JP Chase on Brice didn't see
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 8: much did We did a lot of We got a
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 8: lot of explosiveness. There's nothing that just jumps out at
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 8: you when you watch him. I know Abdula had the sack,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 8: but there was I didn't see a lot of quick twitch.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 8: You know, but now it was early first game, so
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 8: I'm not making a judgment about a duel. I mean,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 8: he was a good pass rusher in college, Joe. I'm
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 8: looking forward to seeing him in the next two preseason games.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: To your point, Tony twelve snaps for chaise On and
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: he's not on the defensive statuet. He didn't have a tackle.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 7: I mean I watched it. I just didn't.
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  Speaker 8: I mean it's just I didn't see anything like even
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 8: if he have zero stats, I didn't see like any explosiveness.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 7: I didn't see any like right stressed.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 8: I didn't seem stressing anybody. So and then you have
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 8: ninety two, the kid who's been hurt for Tyr's Jordan
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 8: uh Uh Jordan Jordan Smith. Jordan Smith, Jordan Smith. He's tall, tall, lanky,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 8: you know, but you know he's a guy who's been hurt,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 8: so you gotta see what you gotta got there.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 7: Long story short, I think their eyes are open.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 8: They're not against bringing in a pass rusher that was
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 8: proven the last two days with Clowney BNN. I think
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 8: a lot of it's going to come down to how
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 8: do these young guys have to chase On and the
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 8: rest of the group after Trayvon and Allen, do they
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 8: do anything?
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 7: Do they give them anything?
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 8: And one preseason game and practice, you know a lot
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 8: of questions.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 7: So JP, hey.
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  Speaker 1: Does not that they brought in Clowney just for a
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: motivational tactic for the other guys. But it could work
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: that way, right, Hey, maybe open some eyes. Hey, wait
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: a minute, they're bringing guys in now we got to
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: step it up.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 8: Well, well, if you're not motivated at this time, you're
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 8: a backup, then you have really you have other issues.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 8: That's true, But don't put that again, don't put that,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 8: you know past Trent Balke.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 7: I mean, Tom Coffin was famous.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 8: Every Monday throughout the entire season he would bring in
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 8: guys to work out, and basically the message was is
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 8: he was looking to improve the bottom half of the
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 8: roster at all times. And so yeah, I mean, I
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 8: think it does send a message. But you shouldn't have
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 8: to send a message at this point to guys like
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 8: Chase On who's fighting for his NFL career after being
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 8: a first round pick, Abdullah you know, mid to late
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 8: draft pick, trying to make the team, Jordan Smith and
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 8: guy has been hurt, hasn't you know, in the year three.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 8: So if they need a message, you got other issues
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 8: going on. I mean the big question is dun smooth.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, right, what is It's gonna be a while, Tony,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a while. It feels like.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 8: It does feel that way, Jap. I agree with you.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 8: No official word. He's on the puff and so you
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 8: don't have to give an official word right now, but.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: Just move around, Tony like it's going to be a minute.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 7: I agree with you.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think you count on him probably
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 8: the first part of the season, maybe the first half
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 8: of the season, by the time he gets in shape
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 8: and gets his legs underneath him, and then you wonder
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 8: how much explosiveness did he lose with that Achilles that
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 8: The good thing is the way they're doing Achilles now,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 8: it's much It's a much better surgery than it used
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 8: to be. So I still think I mean the big like,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 8: if you were going to say one of the two
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 8: biggest questions on this roster, it's pass rusher, especially depth,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 8: because I think you have two good starters.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 7: Now, are they? I mean I have him down a
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 7: twenty three to twenty five.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: Dollars you know, guy, Yes, yes, that's right.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 7: That happens.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 8: I will be throwing a parade and rubbing it in
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 8: everyone's face. But after that, who do you have?
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 7: JP?
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 8: Where you? I mean, who's your like? I just think
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 8: about it. In a seventy play game, who are you
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 8: putting out there rotating in? I mean last year it
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 8: was they call it a four man rotation with Trayvon, Josh, Allen, Dwant,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 8: Smoot and arden Key.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's right.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 8: Tell me who the four are right now?
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: Well, the starters and then Abdullah is going to have
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: to step up and play, and then your force up
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: for grabs, right.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 7: Or right now? It's Chase on all.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: Right, right now? It would be him, yes, so yeah.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 8: And then the second and in the second part position
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 8: is nickel? I think it's nickel and pass rusher, more
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 8: pass rush or depth?
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 7: But who's the nickel?
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 8: And who your top four ends or outside backers.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: Let's wrap up with one final question today, and this
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: is from that coach Yost CP. Half the Jags fan
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: base is blocked by Pete Briscoe because he's been nothing
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: but negative for years and years, and whenever anyone calls
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: him out for being nothing but a negative fancy he
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: blocks them. I don't see a question in there.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 8: Anywhere, but I wish Pete was here for this, because
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 8: Pete is famous for blocking people.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 7: JP. How many people have you blocked on.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 8: X in your entire life being on there?
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Uh, you know, maybe like five ten? Maybe an X
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: here or there, you know, doesn't need to see what's
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: going on all that. Maybe five to ten.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 8: Well, I've been married for twenty eight years, so I
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 8: don't have any exes that were around when when X
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 8: was even a thought. So I think I've got a
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 8: total of one or two that blocked just because they
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 8: were just profane, vicious, just you know, nasty. Pete will
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 8: block you at the drop of a hat. And I
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 8: think our ex poster has a point there, and I
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 8: think Pete should unblock all JAG fans from his Twitter feeds,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 8: all of them. And I think it's gonna be It's
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 8: gonna be something I will be bringing up next week
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 8: once we figure out how to get us both on
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 8: the show at the same time, which I know the
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 8: team's working on.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 7: And the you know, we got a new studio, so
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 7: be patient with us. It'll be great in this season.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 7: It's be a great show as usual.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 8: And Max and peek Ab and Day. They're all doing
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 8: hard work right now, get everything ready for us. But
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 8: I will bring that up to Pete because I think
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 8: it's downright cowardly. Yeah, that Pete Prisco blocks people because
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 8: he doesn't like thet He can't handle the heat.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 5: He can't handle the heat.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: Pete, get out of the kitchen, Tony. The highest rated
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: part of the show is the first seven minutes of
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: hour two. I must say tonight, Tony Vasselli, Pete Prisco,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: our entire crew. I'm JP Shadwick. We will catch you
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: next time. Jaguars are headed to Detroit tomorrow against the Lions.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.