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INDIANA 27, PENN STATE 24: Reaction with Grant Shouse & Michelle Garmon (2.80.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: You are listening to a special edition of the IU report with Grant Shouse and my cuttle today with Michelle Garment of the Tipton Tribune and Elwood Colleter filling in for Mike for their reaction to IU's incredible 27-24 come from behind when over Penn State, only on the central Indiana Sports Report.
• 0:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back, who's your fans at the Central Indian Sports Report for a special edition, a very special edition, as it turns out, of the IU report with Grant Shouse and my cuddle, although Mike is not available today, unfortunately for him.
• 0:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Michelle Garmin of the Tipton Tribunal would call leader will be along here in a moment.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: and grant the game just ended and so much happened that I have no idea what we're going to forget something very important in what turned out to be perhaps the biggest win in IU history maybe the biggest one up to this point no I know people are sitting here pricing man Penn State was three and five for the situation Indiana was then were Penn State
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Controlled it in the fourth quarter made the plays in the fourth quarter up till there was a minute to go and Indiana had no time outs Penn State had controlled that game until Indiana started chip and a chip in a way at it down the field You can look at the three and six now record of Penn State and oh, they're not very good.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: They lost UCLA Penn State still has the same athletes they had When they were number two in the country earlier in the year
• 1:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, are they the now are they a top five team of the country?
• 1:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: They've lost games.
• 1:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: They should not have lost like today.
• 1:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: They should not have lost.
• 1:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: They they made plays today when Indiana didn't and Indiana just happened to make plays when they needed to and that's how they won the game.
• 2:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: But Omar Cooper's catch the go ahead touchdown.
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: What turned out to be the game winning touchdown the back of the end.
• 2:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, biggest cash.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe the biggest play in program history.
• 2:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: We'll see.
• 2:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: As I've been saying all week, basically, Indiana could lose this game and it would change nothing.
• 2:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: They need to start a championship.
• 2:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're still going to make the playoffs when or lose this game.
• 2:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not going to be based on this game.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: When you take a look at how they came back in one of that game, the way they've now shown you without question that they're capable of putting together a
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: The coaching staff is able to get their team in the right position, and you got the playmakers to compete with anybody in the country, and that was all kind of summed up in that one play.
• 2:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what championship teams did right there.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: They put together those kind of drives and go down and win games when the backs against their wall.
• 3:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they've made so many mistakes in the game.
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're in interception early in the fourth quarter.
• 3:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Had to let them have a big rundown field, the Angelo Ponds kind of got blocked there by the official.
• 3:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And people on Twitter are complaining about that.
• 3:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I understand how frustrating that is.
• 3:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: If it was Indiana that broke away on the run and a kid for Penn State got blocked by the middle referee in the middle of the field, we wouldn't be here like this.
• 3:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a part of the game.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're running back was explosives.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Engled 10 was explosive.
• 3:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: K-tron Allen was explosive.
• 3:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought the quarterback Ethan Grunkmeyer was was really good today.
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, he played like a freshman.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: But Indiana's defense did not come to play in the second half.
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Indiana's offense was almost a little not exist.
• 3:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was good early in the game.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: In the second half, it was a whole different ball game.
• 3:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uncle Moe was on the side of Penn State, and Indiana had to come back there at the end.
• 4:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not having Elijah's to rap today, certainly should getting blocks downfield, having it open up.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Charlie.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: But they don't win that game without his replacement, either, who had an amazing game.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: About to say, Charlie, Becker, Greg, unbelievable.
• 4:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: He should he's probably going to get the game ball in the locker room.
• 4:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now this is a guy that was probably a little overlooked coming out of high school and and getting recruited.
• 4:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now was kind of the unthung hero there.
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know Mark Cooper made the catch of the end zone, but Charlie Becker was the unthung hero that made the plays down field late in the game and really the entire game to set them up for a couple of touchdowns and got the play down field that set them up for the score that ended up winning the game.
• 4:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: So Charlie Becker's got to be the player of the game.
• 4:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fernando Mendoza looked shaky until the last drive, put together probably his best drive of the season.
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that was definitely his worst performance of the season overall until that drive, but man, he has to have so much confidence knowing every single one of his receivers will make a play.
• 5:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Every single one of what with that last third Greg, he might have just won the iceman.
• 5:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think about that.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was expecting more of a game from Cooper like last week against Maryland.
• 5:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was kind of expecting
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I honestly was not expecting Charlie Becker.
• 5:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking maybe a little E. J. Williams is going to get some action.
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, Riley Noah Kalsky and there he's their main receiving tight end.
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Great tight end, by the way.
• 5:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Backer again, the angstung hero, which is kind of why Penn State, I think, was thrown off a little bit because it was a guy that never really makes plays was able to make big catches in big moments, Penn State never really, I think, keyed in on him on the scouting report a little bit.
• 6:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's just like, hey, he's going to be out here, make throw up to him a couple times.
• 6:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Got to know where he's at, but he made the plays when he needed to make him.
• 6:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's why I'm being on one.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Grant, let's continue the conversation before Michelle gets here.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ten and O for the second time in program history with two very winnable games ahead.
• 6:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it sure looks like the matchup with Ohio State news.
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now I think up 41 to 3 on produce something like that.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Seems inevitable.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely it does.
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so that's, that's exciting.
• 6:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: The fact that Indiana has two games here that they can win when you look at Purdue and Wisconsin on the schedule and years past.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And those are games that,
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: you think you can win on your way to just fix.
• 6:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're just trying to be bowl eligible.
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now, those are two games that you can win to get to 12 total wins on the season, Greg.
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: How about that?
• 7:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: That goes to show the changing and the culture of Indian football.
• 7:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's unreal.
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: What's happened in the past 24 months for Indian football, just unbelievable.
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And today, as we welcome in Michelle Garwin
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: We saw probably Michelle goes back further than we do with IU football.
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: So let's get her opinion that has to be the biggest play in IU football history right Michelle.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, I mean, it was sensational.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I will tell you this in the past, I will before pre-signity Indiana probably does not win
• 7:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: after the way things kind of went in the second half.
• 8:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's amazing.
• 8:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: There are some positives.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Great positive is that you found that face diversity found a way to win, had to come from behind.
• 8:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Winning is a positive, especially there are still top-of-the-big-ton steamings.
• 8:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Looked to be headed to the big-ton championship game,
• 8:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: The other part of this is that they're going to get to see a lot of mistakes on self.
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they're at this stage of the season, they're going to be able to start finding the mistakes because they're things they're going to have to have corrected.
• 8:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You want next week and the week after, but they have to be corrected by the big-to-in-chain
• 8:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: It looks like it will probably be Ohio State, but if it wasn't Ohio State, even if it's Oregon again or Iowa again, or someone else, it'll be a team good enough to take advantage of some of the little mistakes that I you showed on film today.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess that's to me, that's a good positive.
• 9:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think either one of our coordinators had their best day.
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't only was there worse, but I don't believe it was their best day, especially in terms of adjustments during the game from half to half.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would agree with you there.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, your cop put in a weird situation where.
• 9:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Even though Penn State has been what it is this year, it's still Penn State.
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's still the program that it was last year.
• 9:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's still five star recruits and yeah, no doubt.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: You can ignore the record.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: They are a talent to do.
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: They are the best 3M 16 in the country.
• 9:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And guys, here's the thing with Penn State, is that Penn State, looking at the rest of their schedule, they're sitting at three and six, where they had that really tough stretch there where they lost it Iowa after James Franklin's fire.
• 10:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then they had to buy a week, and they went on the road against Ohio State.
• 10:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: So they haven't played at home since October 11, almost a month ago, that was the last game of James Franklin's tenure.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they followed a three and six today with the lost eye you.
• 10:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: But look at the next three games they play here.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: These are all winnable games.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Michigan State on the road next week in East Lansing.
• 10:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: At home against Nebraska, which could be could be tough, probably one of their toughest games.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then they go on the road to Rutgers on the 29th of November.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: These are three winnable games for this program and today was a good start for them.
• 10:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're kind of trending in the right direction after Ohio State.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: They play Ohio State, particularly a little tough in the first half last week, played Indiana really tough until the last minute of the game today, and if they can carry some of that momentum, they're probably deflated right now.
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's be real.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the feeling that they have in their locker room and amongst their program, pretty much sums up the entire season for them.
• 11:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like this game literally summed up their entire season.
• 11:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: getting off to the good start, controlling, having control, feeling great, and then you just kind of crap the bed at the end.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: But this is this is the team that if they stay steady here and when these next three games, I think they're going to be bowl eligible at six and six.
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I won't have a great bowl game.
• 11:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like that pin's they team.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're good.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like their entry-med coach and they should have won the game today.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: But Indiana was more deserving
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Alright Grant, we've mentioned some of the offensive stars, Charlie Becker, Fernando Mendoza, Omar Cooper, Roman Hembue, had a pretty good day as well.
• 11:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Aiden Fisher was great again, who else played well.
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, the one name you left out of you like was K-Lon Black, just a tough runner today.
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had that one play where he had four or five Navy jerseys around him, just pulling out him and tugging out of him.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: He got kind of the push from Kaleel Benson to give him a first down.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was by far, I think, their motion press is running back, and he had an okay day on the ground.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Was not his best game, I feel like they've shutting down.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like Marilyn had him kind of wrapped up a little bit last week, and Penn State kind of had that same thing going for him.
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fact of the matter is we can talk about what happened in the first 59 minutes all we want.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: But at the end of the day, what ended up being the most important was the final that it in 17 or how long it was when they got the ball back.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I actually felt pretty good when they got the ball back with under a minute and a half to go.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know they're out of time hours, but we've seen this thing all year, especially at the end of the half, at the end of the first half.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: They did it today.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: They did it again.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: They did it again.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we're again.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: kind of put together a little bit of a drive to go down and get them and feel go range or score a touchdown.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they did that today in the first staff.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I felt a little good kind of good, even though Penn State had the momentum of getting the ball back and having 80, 85 yards, 75 yards go the whole length of the field and trying to score because they had to have a touchdown.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's a promising sign.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, we said it.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the championship football teams do Michelle.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: They put together those end-of-game drives no matter the opponent when they're back against the wall to go out and win these games.
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Here, you're exactly right, Grant.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, great teams find ways to win on even on their bad days.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that is what Indiana did today.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was fantastic.
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I will say this, I'm going to give their defensive front credit and their linebackers because they kind of brought a lot of extra pressure or kind of blitzes off the end and you could tell Khalil Benson, what a doll, but he's banged up right now and he's hard to get out there on those shift off those guys, but that line came up huge when they needed to on critical plays and you're right
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: like, him be, and the defensively, great U.S. U.S. grant.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to step in for your grant, and you can add on to this.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought yes, Aiden Fisher was fantastic.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dee, I thought DeAngelo Ponds was fantastic.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: He kept that secondary from being a little bit more exploited than what it was.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tucker had a couple of big plays, Bones Jones is just, he's like Aiden Fisher.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's just got a great nose for the football as a linebacker.
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought there's secondary, especially the opposite corner, kind of got burnt a little bit.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: But DeAngelo Ponds is such a difference maker.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's a great tacker and the open field.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Arnold, but Indiana has so many great players on both sides of the football.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of like Michelle was playing there a second ago where Isaiah bones Jones is just like Aiden Fisher.
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think what's awesome about IU is that they have Aiden Fisher
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Many teams in the country would like.
• 15:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bang, they would die to have an aid-in-fisher caliber player.
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Indiana's got two of them.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Indiana's got two eight in fishers, which is insane.
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: We had the fumble recovery there, earlier in the game, had the interception to begin the second half.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: When he had the interception to begin the second half, as a fan, kind of felt a little like you could relax just to hear.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, they got all the momentum.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now they gotta go down the score, touch down it.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I remember saying to myself, gotta come down here and go for the jugular.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're up 17-7 when they got the ball back in the second half.
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: as Dante more for Oregon just through an interception in the end zone.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Indiana's just so talented on both sides of the ball, which is just incredible.
• 16:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not many teams have, this is kind of talent.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: On both sides of the ball, except maybe in Ohio State.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's how great this football team is.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Indiana has the clear path to an undefeated regular season, which,
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what they'll do in the big 10 champion to pick if they get there against the highest state.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what they'll do in the playoff.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right now, Indiana is 10 and a no for the second time in program history, and it comes and back to back years.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: and they had to win these grinded out battle games to get to 10 and out.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you remember the Michigan game last year, it was a grinded out battle game, their towards the end and they pulled and they won by five.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then they had the unbelievable comeback there at the end of the day, they're at the end of the game today and they won by three.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Indiana finds ways to win these tight of games.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's what, again, it's what championship teams do.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I've seen a team of cops football all year do what they've done, not even Ohio State.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Grant Michelle, thank you so much for your time.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate it.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk to you football again very soon.
• 17:55
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