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- 0:00S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
- 0:06S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome
- 0:10S1: what seems impossible and live as you never imagined delivering
- 0:16S1: the truth daily.
- 0:17S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available.
- 0:21S2: And you're forfeiting your soul. There's no amount of gain
- 0:25S2: that would make it worth it.
- 0:26S3: Our own way never ever works. Because it's apart from
- 0:29S3: the life source, which is God.
- 0:32S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
- 0:36S4: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
- 0:39S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
- 0:44S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
- 0:48S1: and crew. Yeah, we got a pop up pole for
- 0:51S1: you here. And we really want your involvement. Trying to
- 0:54S1: get a large sample group. We're doing really well. We're approaching.
- 0:59S1: I don't know what we're approaching here. 700, 600, which
- 1:03S1: is tremendous, but we got a pop up poll. It's
- 1:06S1: a simple one. Have you identified your spiritual gifts and
- 1:12S1: are using them? Have you identified your spiritual gifts and
- 1:15S1: are not utilizing them? Or have you not utilized your
- 1:19S1: gifts because you haven't identified them? All of us have
- 1:23S1: been given gifts. When Jesus ascended, he took captives captive
- 1:29S1: and gave gifts to men. The Holy Spirit, as we've
- 1:31S1: been discussing already this morning, distributes those gifts. They are
- 1:35S1: not our gifts. They are gifts of the Holy Spirit.
- 1:38S1: They are utilized for. And this is very important, the
- 1:41S1: building up of the body of Christ. But we want
- 1:44S1: to get your response into this poll, as many of
- 1:47S1: you as can take a moment to grab your phone
- 1:50S1: as possible. I want you to do it right now.
- 1:53S1: Super di. How do they get their vote registered here?
- 1:56S4: Very simple. That word is vote. Yeah. Text the word
- 1:59S4: vote to 805 five, five, 78, 98. The word is vote.
- 2:04S4: And really even maybe 10s that's all it's going to
- 2:07S4: take you. So text the word vote 800 555, 78, 98.
- 2:12S1: Yeah, getting some good data points back on this already.
- 2:16S1: What a beautiful thing. Think about this. Your gift, uh,
- 2:20S1: if there ever was an example of not being a
- 2:22S1: cul de sac, but rather being a conduit, imagine your
- 2:27S1: life being a conduit of all that God has all
- 2:30S1: your resources. I can go to Matthew 25 again here.
- 2:33S1: Man two and five talent, people, they see all that
- 2:36S1: they've been given as from God and they reinvest it. Well,
- 2:40S1: it's the same is true with spiritual gifts. God wants
- 2:45S1: us to see gifts as a tool and a gift
- 2:50S1: that is given to us for the building up of
- 2:53S1: the body. This is not for you to look at
- 2:55S1: and get fixated on and think, boy, I got this one.
- 2:59S1: Too bad you ain't got this one. Don't you know?
- 3:01S1: Too bad young thunder ain't got that gift over there.
- 3:05S1: I mean, it can get really wonky.
- 3:07S3: Absolutely.
- 3:08S1: So we want to have a lot of clarity around
- 3:10S1: this one today. So text vote. We're going to get
- 3:13S1: a big sample group in here to 805 5578, 98. Super.
- 3:18S1: I said it right. It is quick and easy man.
- 3:22S1: And it's like 10s to do this poll and it's
- 3:25S1: giving us some good data points. And I'll let you
- 3:28S1: know in the next few minutes where we stand here
- 3:31S1: with this poll. But would you get your vote cast
- 3:33S1: right now? Text vote to 805 5578983 categories. I know
- 3:41S1: my spiritual gift and I'm utilizing it in the body
- 3:44S1: of Christ B so that's a b. I know my gift,
- 3:48S1: but I'm not using it right now. And see, Carl,
- 3:52S1: I do not know my gift right now or gifts.
- 3:56S1: And that's okay. There's no condemnation.
- 3:59S5: So no, not at all.
- 4:00S1: We want to we want to hear because we want
- 4:02S1: to get a good pulse of you, the boom crew.
- 4:06S1: So text vote right now. Grab your phone if you're driving,
- 4:09S1: don't do it. Some of you say 10s. I can
- 4:12S1: do it while I'm driving. Please don't pull the side
- 4:14S1: of the road. Grab that phone and text vote to
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- 4:48S1: where they stand financially. All these things are true, but
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- 5:52S1: Okay, so you got two key words there, and I'm
- 5:55S1: grateful for all of you responding right now. We're getting
- 5:58S1: hundreds of you responding. That's tremendous. All we need is
- 6:02S1: you trying to get a good swath. You know, the
- 6:05S1: more data points we get here, the better sample size
- 6:07S1: we get, the better results we're going to have. So yeah,
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- 6:14S1: that number and get this information. Just text cruise to
- 6:17S1: 805 557898. And for everyone here, you can jump in
- 6:25S1: right now and you give a response to spiritual gifts
- 6:29S1: by texting vote to 805 557898. Coming up, I'm going
- 6:34S1: to give you the results. Get your vote in. We
- 6:37S1: get it instantly tallied. So get it in. Get let
- 6:41S1: your voice, let your heart, let your life situation be heard.
- 6:44S1: Text vote to 805 55. 78. 98. Results of the
- 6:50S1: poll coming up in just a moment here.
- 6:53S6: She was trying to earn her way to God, but
- 6:55S6: God showed her. She didn't have to. Ali is in
- 6:59S6: the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
- 7:03S1: It's Carl and crew here talking spiritual gifts all week long.
- 7:06S1: We are going to have an amazing week. We're going
- 7:08S1: to have experts in here. I'm talking even Craig Keener
- 7:11S1: from Asbury, phenomenal theological mind. He's going to be later
- 7:15S1: this week. And by the way, tune in tomorrow. I
- 7:18S1: think it's going to happen tomorrow. We are going to
- 7:21S1: have a spiritual gifts inventory that is being created by
- 7:26S1: our very own doctor, Drew Dickens, our very own doctor,
- 7:31S1: Drew Dickinson. He's creating it just for you, boom crew.
- 7:34S1: And that's going to be tomorrow. We're going to have
- 7:35S1: a link for that. He does.
- 7:37S5: So much work to just build things for us, for.
- 7:40S4: The boom crew, for the boom crew.
- 7:42S5: It's incredible. So cool.
- 7:43S1: It's humbling.
- 7:44S5: Man. It is.
- 7:45S1: Okay, I've got some vote responses here or poll responses,
- 7:50S1: and I want to thank you. So this is what
- 7:53S1: we've got. We're nearing 800 people responding. How about them apples.
- 7:58S3: That's incredible.
- 7:58S5: That's great.
- 7:59S1: Okay, so we got nearly 800. Good sample group. I'm
- 8:02S1: going to keep getting it all week long. I want
- 8:04S1: to see if this is going to move at all.
- 8:06S1: It's been trending about the same here. But here's where
- 8:09S1: we're at 53%. Yes I've identified my gifts and I'm
- 8:14S1: using them. Now I got to tell you, I my
- 8:20S1: firm conviction is that if you take the general population
- 8:25S1: of the church, just the gen pop, I think, and
- 8:30S1: I'm talking gospel preaching, you know, calling down the Spirit
- 8:35S1: of God and angels to work that kind of a church,
- 8:38S1: open the Bible, preach from it. I think that's that's
- 8:44S1: a high higher number than what you would normally find
- 8:46S1: in the general population.
- 8:48S5: I think that's fair.
- 8:49S1: And that that's not that's not surprising because folks that
- 8:54S1: are in the boom crew, they're in it to win
- 8:56S1: it all the way, no doubt. And so that would
- 9:00S1: explain the 53%. But here's where it gets a little
- 9:04S1: more concerning. 13% have identified their gifts but are not
- 9:08S1: using them. And by the way, concerning in the sense
- 9:11S1: that we need you identify and using your gifts. And
- 9:14S1: then 34% of respondents with 777 poles already accounted for here, 34%. No,
- 9:24S1: I've not identified my spiritual gifts and then obviously can't
- 9:28S1: use them. Now, I will say this. Some of you
- 9:32S1: are using your spiritual gifts and you just don't know it.
- 9:36S1: You haven't pinned it down.
- 9:37S5: That's very true.
- 9:37S4: That's a very good point.
- 9:39S1: You've got a gift of administration and you're using it,
- 9:42S1: or of mercy or of helps, and you've just never
- 9:44S1: pinned it down. So God willing, by the end of
- 9:47S1: this week, we're going to pin that down. But I've
- 9:48S1: got a very important question for you. And it's this
- 9:53S1: if spiritual gifts are given to build up fellow followers
- 9:57S1: there for there for building people up, how are you
- 10:01S1: using your gifts right now? Now, obviously, this has to
- 10:06S1: be done in a tenor of humility. Some of you
- 10:09S1: are going to want to remain anonymous. We're only going
- 10:11S1: to call out first names anyways, but I really want
- 10:15S1: to get some feedback on this. Why? I want to
- 10:18S1: build a fire broadly around all these spiritual gifts and
- 10:23S1: feature these for the sake of encouraging others to utilize
- 10:27S1: them more. So here's the question I want you to
- 10:31S1: call in in response. If spiritual gifts are given to
- 10:35S1: build up fellow followers of Christ, build up the church.
- 10:40S1: How are you using your gifts right now? 805 557898
- 10:48S1: give us a call. 805 557898.
- 10:54S6: He was sharing the gospel on the radio and then
- 10:57S6: he got saved. Young thunders in the crew. It's Carl
- 11:02S6: and crew on Moody Radio.
- 11:04S1: If spiritual gifts are given to build up the body
- 11:07S1: of Christ, strengthen, encourage, really move the trajectory of someone's
- 11:12S1: spiritual life to growth in Jesus. How are you using
- 11:16S1: your gifts right now? Now? I know that there's a
- 11:19S1: lot of you that are very shy to say, why
- 11:21S1: would I want to call in and tell you about that?
- 11:24S1: My goodness, because it's going to encourage others to jump
- 11:28S1: in and use their gift, maybe even help identify what
- 11:31S1: their gift is for them. 805 557898. I'm asking you
- 11:36S1: to not be shy. Pastors. Elders. Don't be shy. 800. 555. 7898.
- 11:45S1: Give us a call. James. Plant City, Florida. What do
- 11:47S1: you say, my friend?
- 11:49S7: Hey, how's it going? This guy this morning.
- 11:51S1: Guys going good. What's your. How's God using your gifts
- 11:54S1: to build up the body?
- 11:56S7: Okay, well, I walked through 30 years of addiction and,
- 12:00S7: you know, and things in my life. But what he's
- 12:02S7: done now is he's turned my life around. And the
- 12:06S7: same thing that crushed me. Now, the oil that poured
- 12:09S7: out is to go back into the community now and
- 12:12S7: tell the homeless and the addicted and mental health about
- 12:16S7: the love of Christ, and that there is a way out.
- 12:18S7: You know what I mean? Through him. And, and he's
- 12:21S7: just he's so good. And the opportunity to go out
- 12:25S7: and give back, you know, in ministry to him. And,
- 12:28S7: and that's, that's the way he's using me right now.
- 12:30S7: Me and my wife in our life. We actually have
- 12:32S7: a ministry we just opened up and it's called the
- 12:34S7: way out Plant City. And He's just. He's doing mighty
- 12:37S7: things here in Plant City.
- 12:38S1: I'm going to tell you something, James. I would be, uh,
- 12:42S1: I would be remiss to not tell you. You either
- 12:45S1: have a gift of mercy or helps, for sure. And
- 12:49S1: that is a beautiful thing. And I want to encourage
- 12:51S1: you to keep using that thing powerfully. I also want
- 12:55S1: to encourage you with something here. This is very important.
- 12:58S1: This is I hadn't planned on this. Oftentimes, people with
- 13:03S1: the gift of ministry or helps need administrators or even
- 13:07S1: leaders around them. This is where the gifts of the
- 13:11S1: body come into play. This is what makes churches tick,
- 13:16S1: is when somebody's got portions of where we aren't gifted,
- 13:21S1: strengthened by their own gifting. So just think about that.
- 13:25S1: Thank you James. Great call. Boom brother. Way to go.
- 13:28S1: Lee in Cleveland, Ohio. Tell us.
- 13:32S8: Hi, Carl. Good morning. Um, I think that God is
- 13:35S8: using me with my spiritual gift of teaching and of languages.
- 13:39S8: I teach at a Christian high school here in Cleveland.
- 13:42S8: I teach, uh, foreign languages. So I think that's where
- 13:46S8: he's using me.
- 13:47S1: Yeah, no doubt about it. Way to go. Way to
- 13:49S1: be usually. Love that. Proud of you, sister. It's a
- 13:52S1: beautiful thing when we can leverage the gifts God's given
- 13:56S1: us to build up others. And when we see our
- 14:00S1: gifts as spiritual gifts, they are not ours. We are
- 14:04S1: stewards of the gifts God's given us. We'll use them boldly. Yeah.
- 14:09S1: Give us a call. You're using your gifts because you
- 14:13S1: know they're there for the building up of the body
- 14:15S1: of Christ. How are you using them right now? And
- 14:17S1: I don't want you to be shy. I know the
- 14:19S1: tendency is, my goodness, if you got to remain anonymous,
- 14:22S1: remain anonymous. If you feel better with that. Most people
- 14:26S1: that are using their gifts don't want to go, hey,
- 14:29S1: this is how I'm using my gift. But we want
- 14:31S1: you to say, this is how I'm using my gift
- 14:33S1: right now. 805 557898. Give us a jingle right now.
- 14:39S1: 805 5578, 98. Phone's still jingle, guys.
- 14:44S5: Uh, well, I guess if you have the sound on them, then, yeah.
- 14:48S6: He's a sports fanatic with a stand for anything you
- 14:51S6: can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's
- 14:55S6: Carl and crew on Moody Radio Scotland.
- 14:58S1: Crew talking spiritual gifts. Got a question for you. If
- 15:01S1: spiritual gifts are given to build up the body of Christ,
- 15:03S1: how are you using your gifts right now? Going back
- 15:07S1: to the phone lines, Barbara, Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Thanks for
- 15:09S1: calling in, sister. What's your story?
- 15:12S9: Absolutely. I'm still working. I'm 78 years old, but I
- 15:16S9: really enjoy what I'm doing for a mission for a non-profit.
- 15:20S9: And sometimes, um, decisions are made at the higher level,
- 15:24S9: but all the, the people who are workers don't always understand.
- 15:27S9: So I try to encourage people. I encourage my friends
- 15:31S9: to know that God is in control and for whatever reason,
- 15:35S9: we're going through this. So if you don't like it,
- 15:38S9: then get a different job. But otherwise, let me just
- 15:42S9: encourage you to let God be handling it. And you
- 15:46S9: be in his his arms and let him hold you up.
- 15:49S1: Okay? You know, you're touching on a few things here, Barbara.
- 15:52S1: And I want to try to encourage everyone calling in
- 15:54S1: today to try to pin down their gift. I would
- 15:57S1: say you've probably got a gift of exhortation for sure,
- 16:01S1: gift of exhortation, and that there could be a little
- 16:05S1: bit of prophecy. In other words, speaking truth to a
- 16:10S1: person directly in that exhortation. But it's an awesome thing
- 16:14S1: to hear. Sister. Boom! Way to go, Barbara in Fort Lauderdale.
- 16:18S1: Way to go, guys. Uh, Marlena Cleveland, Ohio. Thanks for
- 16:22S1: calling in. What's your story?
- 16:25S10: Uh, it'll be a year and a half tomorrow that
- 16:28S10: my husband went home to be with Jesus. And I
- 16:32S10: asked the Lord, you know, how do you want to
- 16:34S10: use me for this next season of life until I
- 16:37S10: go to be with you? And I started a widows
- 16:40S10: group and I have now we just started in January.
- 16:44S10: I have 53 women in our group now and we
- 16:47S10: meet every single month. We have dinner. We share with
- 16:52S10: one another. Um, we do activities together and it's encouraging
- 16:57S10: these women that God's got something for their future, that
- 17:01S10: they won't roll up in a ball and die. Yes,
- 17:05S10: it's full of joy. It is full of hope because
- 17:09S10: our Lord is our bridegroom. And there it gives me
- 17:13S10: such great joy to be able to bring joy to others.
- 17:16S10: And our group is called WCJ. We choose joy widow
- 17:21S10: connection journey.
- 17:23S11: How do you like that?
- 17:24S1: Sister, I love it now. Marlena. You know what your
- 17:29S1: spiritual gift is, right? Because I do.
- 17:33S10: Okay. Um, well, um, what would you call it?
- 17:36S1: I would, I would say you've probably got a spiritual
- 17:39S1: gift of leadership.
- 17:42S10: Um, that is true because when I took the vision
- 17:46S10: to our pastor, he right away said, that's a great idea.
- 17:50S10: He said, you're in charge.
- 17:51S1: And go get her done.
- 17:53S10: Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Because he said, you know, we can't
- 17:56S10: start new ministries if we don't have someone to lead.
- 17:59S10: And I agree with you, Carl, because God's given me
- 18:03S10: that ability. And it's, it's just it's so exciting. And
- 18:07S10: there we had three new women that came last Wednesday, uh,
- 18:11S10: Tuesday for our meetings. And so we yeah, it's, it's phenomenal.
- 18:17S10: It really is. And to God be the glory. And
- 18:19S10: that's Romans 828 that he makes something good come out
- 18:24S10: of everything that happens, even the loss of our spouses.
- 18:28S1: And you're living, James. You're living. James you're living real
- 18:31S1: religion is caring for widows. So you're doing a good thing. You're.
- 18:35S1: This is so good. Now let me let me keep
- 18:37S1: you here for a second. Marlena. See, you're using your
- 18:40S1: leadership gift in your. But you're not focused on the gift.
- 18:43S1: You're focused on utilizing it for the growth of the
- 18:47S1: body of Christ. There are 50 plus women that are
- 18:50S1: going to be radically altered until the day they go
- 18:54S1: home to be with Jesus, or he comes to get us.
- 18:57S1: That is boom crew, listen to me. What Marlena is
- 19:00S1: doing is beautiful, and the fact that she didn't know. Bingo.
- 19:05S1: My gift is leadership. She had a hunch, didn't want
- 19:07S1: to say. It is one of the greatest evidences that
- 19:11S1: we're tracking with Jesus on these gifts.
- 19:14S5: No doubt about that.
- 19:15S1: Man. Marlena, stay on the phone. You're getting a call
- 19:21S1: and crew prize pack.
- 19:22S12: I love it. Love it.
- 19:23S1: You want to? Do you want a prize pack? First off,
- 19:26S1: would you like one sent to you?
- 19:28S10: I would love one. I would be so blessed. Thank
- 19:32S10: you so much.
- 19:33S1: I hope you enjoy what's in it. I don't even
- 19:35S1: know what all is in there, but. Godspeed, sister.
- 19:38S5: Lots of prizes.
- 19:39S1: What a cool thing. Yeah. Oh, what a blessing.
- 19:44S6: The gospel changes everything.
- 19:47S2: Where else am I gonna find peace, joy? Eternal life
- 19:50S2: not found in any one else.
- 19:53S6: You're listening to Carl and crew.
- 19:55S1: We're talking spiritual gifts this week, and I want to
- 19:58S1: thank all of you that have had a hand in
- 20:01S1: helping us get a good sample size group of data.
- 20:06S1: We asked you a question with regarding spiritual gifts. Do
- 20:11S1: you know them and use them? Do you know them?
- 20:14S1: But don't use them and you do not know them,
- 20:17S1: therefore you cannot use them. Three options. Sam Storms, my
- 20:22S1: guest right now, we've got a pretty high rate of
- 20:25S1: people that know and use their gifts here on the
- 20:27S1: morning show. Sam, that probably didn't surprise you, but it's
- 20:30S1: up around 50%. So that leaves 50% that are under
- 20:35S1: leveraged in the body for sure. And it probably goes
- 20:37S1: higher than that. What's your take on that number?
- 20:41S13: Well, it sounds about right. Um, it's interesting. You should
- 20:44S13: use the word use because both in Romans 12 and
- 20:48S13: in first Peter four, the the apostles exhort us, use
- 20:51S13: your gift for the building up of the body. So
- 20:54S13: identifying it as one thing, um, embracing it. And the
- 20:59S13: reality of it is another, but actually putting it into
- 21:01S13: use is absolutely essential. And that's one of the things
- 21:05S13: that Christians don't know how to do.
- 21:06S1: Yeah. That reminds me of first Corinthians 12, verse one.
- 21:10S1: Now concerning spiritual gifts, brothers and sisters, I do not
- 21:14S1: want you to be uninformed. Uh oh, Sam, we're we're
- 21:19S1: like the church of Corinth, only we haven't read the letter.
- 21:21S1: We're uninformed, aren't we?
- 21:24S13: We are. Uh, let me just give you a quick
- 21:26S13: illustration of why this is important. Let's assume that you
- 21:29S13: want to remodel your kitchen in your home. And so
- 21:32S13: you hire a guy to come in and he walks
- 21:34S13: in by himself, and all he has is one hammer
- 21:36S13: and one screwdriver, and you immediately become suspicious. There's not
- 21:40S13: there's no way he can remodel my entire kitchen with
- 21:44S13: those two tools. Well, that's the way many Christians approach
- 21:48S13: church life and small group life. Uh, they think that
- 21:52S13: somehow they've got 1 or 2 tools, and they fail
- 21:55S13: to make use of all the resources God has given us.
- 21:58S13: Spiritual gifts are the tools, the spiritual tools that God
- 22:02S13: has granted to build up his people and to expand
- 22:05S13: his kingdom. And we should no more expect to be
- 22:08S13: able to accomplish that without the use of those gifts.
- 22:11S13: Then you would have your kitchen remodeled by a guy
- 22:13S13: with only a screwdriver and a hammer. So we have
- 22:16S13: to recognize these are the resources, the tools, the instruments
- 22:20S13: that God has given us so graciously and freely in
- 22:23S13: order to build up the body of Christ. And if
- 22:25S13: we don't make use of them, the body remains tiny,
- 22:29S13: remains spiritual pygmies.
- 22:30S1: Yeah. Yeah. Sam storms, my guest right now. And we're
- 22:33S1: going to have a link to a ton of resources
- 22:35S1: here before we're done with our time with Sam. I
- 22:38S1: got so many questions here. Let's just get rapid fire.
- 22:41S1: Let's get some answers. Spiritual gifts were given according to Ephesians,
- 22:47S1: when Jesus rose, he took captives captive and gave gifts
- 22:51S1: to men. And then the Holy Spirit is because they're
- 22:55S1: spiritual gifts. The Holy Spirit is infusing those gifts that
- 22:59S1: were gifted by Jesus. What do we need to know
- 23:03S1: about that, Sam?
- 23:05S13: Well, you've pretty much defined what a spiritual gift is.
- 23:09S13: And we have a definition in first Corinthians 127 where
- 23:12S13: Paul says to each is given the manifestation of the
- 23:15S13: spirit for the common good. Spiritual gifts are the Holy
- 23:19S13: Spirit himself, manifesting his presence and power through Christians. So
- 23:24S13: we need to get out of our minds this idea
- 23:26S13: that spiritual gift is like that one under the Christmas tree,
- 23:29S13: wrapped in a pretty paper and a nice little bow.
- 23:32S13: It's not a thing separate from God. Spiritual gifts are
- 23:36S13: God the Holy Spirit operating visibly and vocally through us
- 23:40S13: to build up other people.
- 23:42S1: Sam, in all my years and I've preached on spiritual gifting,
- 23:45S1: I've never landed that firmly on that nuance. This is
- 23:49S1: not your gift. This is the gift of the Holy Spirit.
- 23:52S1: We are stewards, Sam. That's huge.
- 23:56S13: It is. I mean, think about it for a minute.
- 23:59S13: People say sometimes that focusing on the Holy Spirit isn't biblical. Well,
- 24:04S13: the Holy Spirit himself is manifesting. He's coming to full
- 24:08S13: disclosure about who he is and what he does by
- 24:11S13: means of these empowering, um, abilities that he imparts to Christians.
- 24:16S13: And it's also important that we notice there in that
- 24:19S13: verse seven of first Corinthians 12. The purpose, it's for
- 24:22S13: the common good. It's for building up godly Christians, maturing
- 24:26S13: them in Christ, enabling them to minister to one another
- 24:30S13: in a way that honors Jesus and builds them up
- 24:32S13: in their faith.
- 24:33S1: How do we delineate between talents and gifts? Spirit, Holy
- 24:39S1: spirit infused gifts and let me illustrate from my own life.
- 24:42S1: So when I was lost, I was always the class leader. Now,
- 24:47S1: when I was born again, I was a reluctant leader
- 24:49S1: because I was humbled and really brought low in a
- 24:53S1: beautiful place before the Lord. So I had no desire
- 24:57S1: to preach the gospel. God. God chose me. I didn't
- 25:00S1: choose that. But the gift of leadership is my primary gift.
- 25:05S1: I have teaching and evangelism as well, for sure. But
- 25:10S1: how do you you know what I'm struggling with here?
- 25:14S1: I mean, I was born a leader, but now I'm
- 25:16S1: a spiritual leader. How does all that work?
- 25:19S13: Well, this may catch you by surprise. I don't think
- 25:22S13: it's all that important for us to differentiate between natural,
- 25:26S13: God given talents and a spirit given spiritual gift. The
- 25:30S13: question is, once we recognize what we can do effectively
- 25:33S13: for the glory of God and for the good of people,
- 25:36S13: use it, put it into practice. So on the one hand,
- 25:40S13: it is oftentimes the case that your natural talents and
- 25:44S13: your educational experience will coincide with and will be perfectly
- 25:49S13: manifested when you get a spiritual gift. So for example, uh,
- 25:52S13: like you said, maybe, uh, if you have the gift
- 25:55S13: of leadership and you were in a, let's say you
- 25:57S13: were the CEO of a fortune 500 company and you
- 26:01S13: were doing an excellent job there. And then you get
- 26:03S13: saved and you find yourself in the local church, your
- 26:06S13: gift of leadership, uh, which was produced in you by
- 26:09S13: the Holy Spirit even before you were saved. Because remember,
- 26:12S13: the Spirit of God works all these things in us
- 26:14S13: by common grace. But then you make use of that,
- 26:17S13: and you adapt it to the life of the local church.
- 26:20S13: On the other hand, there may be an individual who
- 26:23S13: has very little education, who has very little experience, but
- 26:27S13: he's saved, and suddenly he has the capacity of wisdom
- 26:31S13: and guidance and leadership to build up the body. And
- 26:34S13: there's no connection between his natural native abilities and his
- 26:37S13: spiritual gifts. So my point is, sometimes there is an overlap,
- 26:42S13: sometimes there is not. I don't think people ought to
- 26:45S13: worry about it. Just make use of whatever gift you
- 26:47S13: have and thank God for it.
- 26:49S1: That's that's some good barnyard counsel there. Don't worry about it.
- 26:53S1: Just I mean, if we go back to Psalm 139,
- 26:57S1: we were fearfully and wonderfully made back in the womb.
- 27:01S1: So there were designs on our life. So it just
- 27:04S1: dawned on me, if you take the sovereign nature of
- 27:08S1: God's calling on our life. That would almost imply, look,
- 27:14S1: I know I'm going to use this thing I built
- 27:17S1: in you, and I'm going to supercharge it by the
- 27:19S1: power of the Holy Spirit. That makes more sense, doesn't it, Sam?
- 27:23S13: It does, it does. And so again, I would just
- 27:26S13: say to people, if they, you know, people, the question
- 27:29S13: I get asked more than anything else is, how do
- 27:30S13: I discover my spiritual gifts?
- 27:32S1: Yeah. So let's go there.
- 27:33S13: Yeah. Well, the people don't like this, but the first
- 27:37S13: thing I say is stop gazing in on your belly.
- 27:40S13: You know, this this introspective. Oh, I got to search
- 27:43S13: and rack my soul and find out what my gift is. No.
- 27:47S13: Open your eyes. Identify a need and step into it
- 27:51S13: to meet it. And the Spirit of God will find
- 27:53S13: you in the midst of that. So, you know, it's
- 27:56S13: a very practical, almost pragmatic approach to discovering your gift.
- 28:00S13: If I see somebody who's depressed and discouraged, sit down
- 28:03S13: with them. Speak words of encouragement, pray for them, and
- 28:07S13: suddenly the spiritual gift of encouragement will manifest through your ministry.
- 28:12S13: Or if you find an elderly person in your church
- 28:14S13: who who can't take care of her yard, or even
- 28:17S13: wash the clothes, or clean out the garage, get a
- 28:20S13: bunch of people, go over there and serve her in
- 28:23S13: that capacity, and suddenly you'll find that the spirit has
- 28:25S13: equipped you with the gift of service.
- 28:26S1: I love.
- 28:27S13: It so. On and on and on. All we need
- 28:30S13: do is instead of looking inward, look outward. Identify the
- 28:34S13: need that somebody in your neighborhood or your church might have,
- 28:38S13: and then say, all right, Lord, I'm going to step
- 28:40S13: into the middle of this. Would you equip me and
- 28:43S13: empower me to help this individual in whatever need they have?
- 28:46S13: And I believe when you do that, the spiritual gift
- 28:49S13: that you're searching for will meet you in that moment.
- 28:52S1: I believe it. You know, I got two thoughts on
- 28:54S1: this one, Sam. I've often told people in our church campuses, listen,
- 28:59S1: you're trying to discover stuff, but you're strapped to the
- 29:01S1: dock trying to figure out who you are. You got
- 29:03S1: it untied from the dock. And get this boat out
- 29:05S1: to sea a little bit. And that's what you're saying.
- 29:08S1: Let's get out there and use it. Here's the thing
- 29:11S1: that's just struck me. I wonder if, Sam, one of
- 29:16S1: the most important elements to discovering how the Spirit of
- 29:21S1: God is using me with gifts that he's given me
- 29:25S1: and working through me. I wonder if that isn't best
- 29:28S1: done by a word of affirmation. When you see someone
- 29:32S1: winning in leadership, administration, mercy teaching, uh, prophecy, whatever. I'm
- 29:39S1: wondering if that's the secret sauce that we're missing out
- 29:42S1: on here.
- 29:44S13: Well, I definitely think it is. Um, and again, it's interesting. Um,
- 29:48S13: I think I counted nine times in first Corinthians 14
- 29:52S13: that the Apostle Paul identifies the purpose of spiritual gifts
- 29:55S13: is edification building up the body.
- 29:58S1: Yes.
- 29:58S13: And that can be done, as you just said, simply
- 30:01S13: by affirmation. You see somebody who's ministering powerfully, maybe they're
- 30:05S13: explaining a text of scripture to somebody who's really confused,
- 30:08S13: and they've never thought that they might have the gift
- 30:10S13: of teaching. And you say, you know, I think you
- 30:12S13: should develop that gift and work on it. You really
- 30:15S13: communicated that biblical truth well, or you see somebody writing
- 30:19S13: out a check to a person whose electricity is about
- 30:22S13: to be shut off, and suddenly you say, hey, have
- 30:25S13: you ever thought you might have the gift of giving?
- 30:27S13: I mean, you reacted so spontaneously and generously to that need.
- 30:30S13: And so, yes, I think by affirming what we see
- 30:33S13: in others, it oftentimes can bring to the surface and
- 30:37S13: enable them to exercise their gift more effectively.
- 30:40S1: Let's get into a risky spot. And that is this gift, uh,
- 30:44S1: fascination that borders on idolatry, if you know what I
- 30:48S1: mean here, Sam. How do we prevent that?
- 30:51S13: By reminding ourselves. Number one, the word spiritual gift is
- 30:57S13: rooted in the Greek word for grace. Chorus. That's why
- 31:00S13: we get the word charismatic. We always have to remember
- 31:03S13: that whatever my gift is, it's not because I did
- 31:06S13: something wonderful that God felt obligated to give it to me.
- 31:09S13: It's grace gift. It's a it's a total work of
- 31:12S13: God's sovereign mercy. Secondly, we have to remember, as I've
- 31:15S13: already said, the purpose of the gift. It's not so
- 31:17S13: I can enhance my reputation in church or have people
- 31:21S13: applaud me or hand me a microphone or have my name,
- 31:24S13: you know, in the bulletin or on the screen. It's
- 31:28S13: to build up the body of Christ. It's to edify others.
- 31:31S13: And I think if we remember where the gifts come from,
- 31:34S13: they are not rewards for obedience. They are God's grace gifts.
- 31:38S13: And secondly, they're given so that other people might grow
- 31:41S13: up and benefit from what we do through the power
- 31:44S13: of the spirit.
- 31:45S1: Yeah. And I want to linger here because I had
- 31:48S1: something happen. I feel prompted to share this story just quickly.
- 31:51S1: There was a person in a church a number of
- 31:55S1: years ago now who. This person had a very real
- 32:00S1: gift of discernment. No question about it. But I began
- 32:05S1: to see in this person something quite destructive. They didn't
- 32:10S1: use this. It was almost like, I'm here to read
- 32:13S1: your mail, if you know what I mean. Sure. And
- 32:16S1: it it spiraled into something really dangerous. Sam and I
- 32:20S1: went to this person and I said, I want you
- 32:22S1: to stop and consider something. I think your gift is
- 32:26S1: very real, but I'm afraid you're using this to read
- 32:31S1: mail and actually tear people down rather than build them up.
- 32:36S1: And I said, I want you to take a break
- 32:38S1: from church and come back here when you're ready to
- 32:41S1: use this thing rightly. Just take a couple of weeks
- 32:43S1: and pray. Now, I never saw that person again, but
- 32:46S1: I felt like what I said to them was from
- 32:49S1: the Lord. And this is a cautionary tale, isn't it, Sam?
- 32:53S13: Yes it is. I'm glad you brought this up because
- 32:55S13: basically it uncovers a real problem in the body of Christ.
- 33:00S13: And that is when people when Christian people begin to
- 33:04S13: identify their own personality and value with their gifting. So
- 33:08S13: I am valuable because I have this gift, or I
- 33:12S13: am loved by God because because I have this gift,
- 33:15S13: or I am admired and respected by people because I
- 33:18S13: have this gift. Our identity is in Christ. Regardless of
- 33:22S13: what gift we may or may not have. But when
- 33:25S13: people begin to identify their own value, their own dignity
- 33:30S13: as an image bearer with whatever gift they have, then
- 33:33S13: what happens when, like you did with this individual, somebody says, look,
- 33:38S13: I think you're misusing this gift. You're hurting people rather
- 33:41S13: than helping. Well, if they can't differentiate between their gift
- 33:44S13: and their own personal soul, they will be devastated. They'll
- 33:49S13: be like you said, this guy walks away. He doesn't
- 33:51S13: come back. So we need to be very careful not
- 33:55S13: to think that, um, let's say I have the gift
- 33:58S13: of prophecy to be able to say I am a prophet.
- 34:01S13: That is my fundamental identity as a child of God. No,
- 34:05S13: your fundamental identity is that you are a child of God,
- 34:08S13: redeemed and adopted into his spiritual family, and he's gifted
- 34:11S13: you in this way so that you can build up others.
- 34:14S13: So it's a very dangerous and subtle thing in the
- 34:18S13: body of Christ. When people begin to, uh, merge or
- 34:21S13: coalesce their gifting with their own, uh, value as an,
- 34:25S13: as an individual, as if somehow my dignity and my,
- 34:29S13: my value before God is wrapped up in my gifting.
- 34:32S13: No it isn't. We need to remember that.
- 34:34S1: Yeah. And I think, uh, when we talk spiritual gifts,
- 34:37S1: obviously the apostle Paul, I mean, a lot of his
- 34:40S1: teaching to Corinth was cautionary. I mean, it was corrective.
- 34:44S1: So with regard to spiritual gifts, I think a couple
- 34:46S1: other areas I'd love your thoughts on this is we've
- 34:49S1: kind of highlighted a few gifts and diminished many others.
- 34:53S1: We highlight, uh, we highlight preaching, teaching, prophesying, whatever all
- 35:00S1: those the more show gifts as they were. And then
- 35:03S1: we diminish mercy and helps and administration. My goodness, I
- 35:08S1: love guys that can line up ducks and knock them down.
- 35:10S1: Sam give us a word on that.
- 35:13S13: Absolutely. Yeah. It's, uh, this, this was the problem in
- 35:17S13: first century Corinth. That's why Paul wrote what he did
- 35:20S13: in first Corinthians 13 and 14. He basically said, look,
- 35:24S13: these gifts that are more, uh, external and, uh, have
- 35:28S13: a little bit more sensationalism to them, like prophecy or
- 35:31S13: tongues or healing. He said, that's fine, but you don't
- 35:35S13: highlight those to the exclusion of others. And that's what
- 35:38S13: he says in chapter 12 when he says, the eye
- 35:41S13: cannot say to the hand, I have no need of you,
- 35:43S13: nor again the head to the feet, I have no
- 35:44S13: need of you. He says, all parts of the body
- 35:47S13: of Christ are of equal value. And I mean, just imagine, uh,
- 35:51S13: what life would be like for you if you had
- 35:54S13: no eyes but great ears if you had. Yeah. Two feet,
- 35:57S13: but no hands. You would be crippled. You couldn't do
- 36:00S13: much of anything. And we need to realize again that
- 36:05S13: no gift is means that God loves me more than
- 36:07S13: he loves you. Uh. They are equal in the sight
- 36:10S13: of God. In fact, I, I this is why I
- 36:13S13: so appreciate my wife. She has the gift of mercy
- 36:15S13: and service. And boy, she doesn't even need to be
- 36:17S13: told where there's a need and she's in the middle
- 36:19S13: of it. The last thing in the world she would
- 36:22S13: want is to be on a platform with a microphone
- 36:23S13: in her hand. Other people. That's the only thing they
- 36:26S13: care about doing. And, uh, it's very sad that we
- 36:30S13: have lost sight of what the spiritual gifts were designed
- 36:33S13: to do.
- 36:34S1: Uh, so one final thought here. How do we keep
- 36:39S1: from worshiping someone else's gift? And I mean that really seriously, Sam.
- 36:46S13: Absolutely. Well, again, uh, that there is a tendency toward that.
- 36:50S13: I've seen it firsthand in my own experience in church
- 36:53S13: life for a half a century. And that is that
- 36:56S13: we see somebody with an extraordinarily powerful gift. Maybe it's preaching,
- 37:00S13: maybe it's prophecy, maybe it's, uh, discerning of spirits or whatever.
- 37:05S13: And we tend to elevate them and put them on
- 37:07S13: a pedestal. And we create a two fold distinction in Christians.
- 37:11S13: We see, oh, the powerful ones over here, the really
- 37:13S13: anointed ones. And then there's the rest of us. And again,
- 37:17S13: that is so contrary to what God says in Scripture. Um,
- 37:21S13: so we need to be careful that we do not
- 37:23S13: create a secondary standard of behavior and expectation. The one
- 37:28S13: of them for the really overtly gifted people on platforms
- 37:32S13: and the actual, you know, the ordinary Christian down in
- 37:35S13: the pew. Right. Um, this is contrary to everything that,
- 37:39S13: that God has said in his word. And let me
- 37:41S13: say one more thing, just real quickly. There are a
- 37:44S13: lot of controversies about spiritual gifts today. A lot of
- 37:47S13: people debating and arguing and people writing spiritual gifts off
- 37:51S13: because they've seen them abused. And I want to say
- 37:54S13: to people, whatever negative concept you have of any spiritual gift,
- 37:59S13: you did not get it from reading the Bible. The
- 38:02S13: Bible only says positive things about spiritual gifts.
- 38:05S1: That's so good.
- 38:06S13: My guess is nine times out of ten, if you
- 38:08S13: have a bad impression of a gift or you're frightened
- 38:11S13: by it, it's because you saw some goofball on a
- 38:13S13: stage manipulating people and acting as if he's more important
- 38:17S13: than anybody else, raising money through the exercise of his gift.
- 38:22S13: It's that fear that has created this prejudice in your
- 38:25S13: heart towards spiritual gifts. It's not God's word because there's
- 38:29S13: no negative statement. Now, there are some warnings about.
- 38:33S1: Cautions.
- 38:33S13: Can be abused, sure, but but that doesn't mean there's
- 38:36S13: a problem with the gift. It means there's a problem
- 38:37S13: with us. That's why Paul kept saying to the Corinthians,
- 38:40S13: stop acting as if your babies grow up and make
- 38:43S13: use of the gift for the purpose that God has
- 38:45S13: given them.
- 38:46S1: Amen. Sam storms. Everybody okay? I've got something really good
- 38:51S1: for you. Understanding spiritual gifts, a comprehensive guide. Yeah, it's
- 38:56S1: a book that he's written. Now I'm going to give
- 38:58S1: you a link. You're going to be able to find
- 39:00S1: it right there. And a ton of other resources related
- 39:02S1: to spiritual gifts. Text the word storm to 805 557898.
- 39:10S1: One word storm to 805 5578, 98.
- 39:16S6: This is Carl and Crew on Moody Radio.
- 39:20S1: We are coming out hot on this Monday morning, a
- 39:23S1: whole week committed to spiritual gifts. And the reason we
- 39:27S1: want to tackle this is I want to give you
- 39:29S1: an update. We've put out a poll. And by the way,
- 39:31S1: you can be part of this. We're going to data
- 39:33S1: collect all week long on this. The question we have
- 39:36S1: for you regarding spiritual gifts a you know them what
- 39:41S1: they are and you're using them. B you know them,
- 39:43S1: you're not using them. C I don't know them so
- 39:46S1: therefore I can't use them. It takes you 15 seconds
- 39:49S1: to take this poll text. Vote to 805 557898. Please
- 39:56S1: get your data in here with me right now. Doctor
- 40:00S1: Alex McFarland, who spiritual gifts. Man, I think my biggest
- 40:05S1: challenge here is I was asking our church in Alaska
- 40:09S1: when we were 5000 strong a number of years ago.
- 40:12S1: I said, all right, how many of you know your
- 40:14S1: spiritual gifts? And they're being utilized? And the number was
- 40:17S1: actually about 30%. That's what it took to kind of
- 40:21S1: keep this flywheel of multiple services in church and dynamism
- 40:26S1: and everything going. I came up to our church the
- 40:29S1: next week and said, whoa, we got a 70% unemployment rate.
- 40:33S1: You know where I'm going here, Alex? We've got to
- 40:35S1: change this, don't we?
- 40:36S14: Yeah we do man. Thank you for tackling this topic.
- 40:39S14: It's very, very important because I think one of the
- 40:42S14: keys to revival and just like you say, you know,
- 40:45S14: spiritual strength and, and fruitfulness for the Lord is that
- 40:50S14: we know our spiritual gifts and we're, we're walking in
- 40:53S14: those gifts and using those gifts.
- 40:55S1: Okay. So what are some of the fallacies about spiritual
- 40:59S1: gifts that we need to debunk just off the top
- 41:02S1: of your heart?
- 41:04S14: Well, I think one of the big ones is that
- 41:06S14: only certain Christians have spiritual gifts. Wow. Um, I believe
- 41:12S14: that at the moment of salvation, when we trust Jesus,
- 41:15S14: we put our faith in the Lord Jesus. Um, they're
- 41:18S14: spiritual gifts are supernatural abilities that are imparted to us.
- 41:24S14: Number one, for the glory of Jesus, but also for
- 41:27S14: our own spiritual growth and the edification of the body,
- 41:32S14: but also the Great Commission. And I want to give
- 41:35S14: four scriptures where you find everything in the New Testament
- 41:39S14: has to say. First Corinthians 12, Romans 12, Ephesians four
- 41:45S14: and first Peter four.
- 41:46S1: Okay, say those again.
- 41:48S14: Yeah. First Corinthians chapter 12, Romans chapter 12, Ephesians chapter four,
- 41:56S14: and first Peter chapter four. And the super easy. You'll
- 42:01S14: you'll learn everything about the spiritual gifts, but there are
- 42:04S14: different categories. Now, um, not every gift is in the
- 42:09S14: life of every believer, right? But every believer has one. Generally,
- 42:15S14: I think it's about three spiritual gifts and one is
- 42:19S14: going to be more predominant than than another. But it's
- 42:22S14: so beautiful that every believer has these, you could call
- 42:27S14: it strengths or competencies, and not only abilities that the
- 42:33S14: the Holy Spirit puts in us, but Actually desires and
- 42:38S14: things that we enjoy. And when we're serving our local church,
- 42:42S14: and by the way, I think every Christian believer should
- 42:45S14: be a part of a church. Yes. That's just part
- 42:47S14: of it. You know, Christianity is personal, but it's also corporate.
- 42:53S14: I mean, we personally put our faith in Jesus, but
- 42:56S14: then we're part of the family of God, right? Amen.
- 43:00S14: So when we're in a church and we're serving in
- 43:05S14: our gift mix, it doesn't drain us or wear us out.
- 43:09S14: And in fact, it, it really charges our batteries. So
- 43:13S14: the every believer has some gifts. And it's, as Ephesians
- 43:17S14: four says, for the building up of the body and
- 43:21S14: for the work of the ministry. And I just think
- 43:24S14: it's a beautiful thing that we can really worship and
- 43:28S14: serve Jesus by using these abilities he puts within us
- 43:34S14: at the moment of salvation.
- 43:36S1: So I'm going to ask every guest this week the
- 43:40S1: same question, and I'm going to pitch it to you.
- 43:42S1: But let me give you a little backstory. Uh, when
- 43:45S1: I was lost and far from God, I was a leader.
- 43:48S1: There's no doubt about it. I was a leader on
- 43:50S1: the playground. I was a leader at work. I was
- 43:52S1: leader in construction field, the oil fields, commercial fishing always
- 43:56S1: been a leader and not because I felt like I
- 43:59S1: wanted to be a leader. It's just God made me
- 44:02S1: that way. That was my personality. Now, when I was
- 44:04S1: born again, interestingly enough, I backed away from that because
- 44:08S1: I was so humbled at the grace of God. I
- 44:10S1: backed away from that. But soon God called me forward
- 44:15S1: into that gift. But here's what's interesting. I felt more
- 44:20S1: affirmed than ever before when the president of my Bible,
- 44:22S1: Little Bible College in my homiletics professor said, you got
- 44:25S1: to set down your carpentry bags. You're going to preach
- 44:28S1: the gospel the rest of your life. Because they, they
- 44:31S1: came to me and they spotted this in me and
- 44:35S1: they spoke it over me that put this whole leadership
- 44:39S1: thing in a whole new spiritual trajectory. I feel like
- 44:45S1: we desperately need. Well, here's my question. Apart from people
- 44:52S1: watching us operate and affirming that we're going to be
- 44:56S1: stuck with this huge unidentified gift problem in the church,
- 44:59S1: aren't we, Alex?
- 45:01S14: Yeah, I think that's very significant that you you said
- 45:05S14: they spoke it over you. There's almost like a kind
- 45:09S14: of a false humility, like, oh, I'm no good. I'm
- 45:12S14: not I don't have any talents. A lot of people,
- 45:16S14: they'll say, you know, I'm not very intelligent. Don't say
- 45:19S14: those things.
- 45:20S5: Yes.
- 45:20S14: I mean, you know, there's a lot in what the
- 45:23S14: Apostle Paul said, I am what I am by the
- 45:26S14: grace of God. You know, on the one hand, Paul
- 45:29S14: didn't brag. Oh, I wrote half the New Testament, and
- 45:32S14: on the other hand, Paul didn't beat himself up. Oh,
- 45:35S14: I persecuted the church. I put a hit on Stephen. No,
- 45:38S14: Paul said, I am what I am by the grace
- 45:40S14: of God. And look, for example, God's allowed me. I
- 45:45S14: give God all the glory. Uh, God's allowed me to
- 45:48S14: write some books and do a whole lot of traveling
- 45:51S14: and teaching. I love to preach and teach. I love
- 45:55S14: to research and, and give out that research to hopefully
- 45:59S14: build up people. But I'm not going around like, oh,
- 46:03S14: I can't do it. No, it's, it's what God's given
- 46:06S14: me to do. Yes, I love it. And it doesn't
- 46:09S14: mean I'm better or smarter or anything. It just means I, I've,
- 46:15S14: I've been very blessed to find out what I think
- 46:18S14: the Lord put me here to do. And, you know,
- 46:21S14: the beautiful thing about spiritual gifts, there's kind of almost
- 46:23S14: like 11 categories. And I'll be very, very quick. But faith,
- 46:28S14: there's prophecy, there's teaching, there's service or or help gifts
- 46:35S14: really meeting practical needs. There's administration and leadership. And yes,
- 46:40S14: praise God, administration is a strength or a spiritual gift.
- 46:46S14: There's ruling and authority. And we'll come back to that.
- 46:50S14: There's exhortation, Romans 128, which is really encouraging people. There's giving. Uh,
- 46:58S14: I always wanted this gift. I didn't get it really,
- 47:01S14: although everybody gives. But do you know, I want to
- 47:04S14: say to everybody, listen, some people can make more money
- 47:08S14: by accident than the rest of us could on purpose.
- 47:12S1: You aren't kidding.
- 47:13S14: Yeah. God enables many Christians to be givers. See, there
- 47:19S14: there are goers and there are sinners. I'm a goer.
- 47:22S14: I've been all over the world. And then, praise God,
- 47:25S14: some people have Donated money to help me go. So
- 47:29S14: giving is actually a gift. There's mercy showing and it,
- 47:34S14: you know, what's really wild is, um, and, and by
- 47:37S14: the way, and we can talk about this, there's also
- 47:40S14: healing and there's also tongues and the interpretation of tongues,
- 47:44S14: but the Greek word for mercy showing is the word oleo.
- 47:48S14: And uh, there used to be a type of butter
- 47:51S14: called oleo. And it really means the applying of oil
- 47:57S14: and oil can lubricate and soften things and mercy showing
- 48:02S14: to show grace and patience and mercy, which is a
- 48:05S14: real gift. Uh, it helps relationships and it maybe, um,
- 48:11S14: harmony within the body of Christ. But these spiritual gifts, I,
- 48:16S14: I believe that I have a teaching gift and it's
- 48:20S14: the word dydasco. And we get the word decay, which
- 48:24S14: is teaching on the old Testament. Sure. Romans 12 and
- 48:27S14: Ephesians four talks about that. Now, you might know I'm
- 48:32S14: not all that organized. I mean, I don't have administrative gifts. Um,
- 48:37S14: I've sat on many boards and committees, but I'm not
- 48:40S14: really the chair of boards because I'm not an administrative
- 48:45S14: kind of guy. Um, but others are, there are some people,
- 48:50S14: and I suspect you're one of them with your leadership gifts, brother.
- 48:54S14: People everywhere they go, the room gets more and more
- 48:57S14: organized and structured. And then there's guys like me that
- 49:02S14: I need to lean on people who are very structured people,
- 49:07S14: but it's like a baseball team. Not everybody's the shortstop
- 49:12S14: because we need some outfielders. Not everybody's the pitcher because
- 49:15S14: we need a good first baseman and a catcher. When
- 49:18S14: everybody is cognizant of their strengths and their they're in
- 49:23S14: their positions, man. Great things happen.
- 49:27S1: Alex McFarland. My guest right now, we're going to have
- 49:30S1: a link to an entire message on spiritual gifts that
- 49:34S1: is going to be, we're going to have a link
- 49:35S1: for you. But I got a couple of thoughts. One
- 49:38S1: is we feature too much. A lot of the showy gifts.
- 49:41S1: Number one. Number two, we limit them. We sometimes think
- 49:45S1: because when we feature too much a guy, let's say
- 49:48S1: a guy up there teaching. Well, in a church of 200,
- 49:51S1: you got more than one teacher. You probably got 7
- 49:55S1: or 8 gifts of teaching there, right? And in like manner,
- 49:59S1: we also diminish then the gifts of mercy. Faith helps
- 50:05S1: administration into me, brother. The longer I follow Jesus, the
- 50:09S1: more I realize, boy, that has been to our detriment
- 50:12S1: that we're missing those two balls.
- 50:15S14: Amen. Amen. You're. I like what you said. The showy gifts.
- 50:19S14: You know, those get all the limelight or all the focus,
- 50:22S14: but praise God. You know, first Corinthians 124 through 11,
- 50:27S14: one of the gifts is, is wisdom and a word
- 50:30S14: of knowledge. And I, I gotta tell you, I've been
- 50:33S14: around a lot of Christians that are, they're very wise,
- 50:36S14: not just smart and not just intelligence, but wisdom comes
- 50:42S14: from the Holy Spirit. And, um, it's very important. Like
- 50:47S14: if you're on the cusp of an important decision and
- 50:50S14: you're praying about it, seek some Christians to also pray
- 50:55S14: and then give some wisdom and direction from the Lord. Uh,
- 50:59S14: we need that. And, and I want to say this
- 51:02S14: in the American church, which I love, and I've been
- 51:05S14: in all 50 states multiple times to preach, but it's
- 51:09S14: almost like the American church in some quarters kind of
- 51:14S14: ignores or even maybe suppresses the work of the Holy Spirit.
- 51:20S15: Yes.
- 51:20S14: Because it's like, um, we know salvation is of God.
- 51:25S14: But then the working of the Great Commission, we got this. No,
- 51:30S14: we need to, uh, be very open and grateful and
- 51:35S14: obedient for the work of the Holy Spirit. And yes,
- 51:40S14: this Christian life is a supernatural walk. And I'm just
- 51:44S14: going to say it and look, I'm a Baptist man.
- 51:48S14: We we, we don't we don't get out there and,
- 51:52S14: you know.
- 51:52S1: You know, talk spiritual gifts a lot.
- 51:54S14: Yeah. But tongues and the interpretation of tongues and faith
- 52:01S14: and speaking words of truth that God, you know, does
- 52:06S14: things through. And then, yes, laying hands on and praying
- 52:10S14: and seeing God heal people. Um, we've got to be
- 52:15S14: fully embracing of what the New Testament says. I'll summarize
- 52:20S14: it this way. Anything you read in the book of
- 52:23S14: acts God is still doing today.
- 52:27S1: Amen. Alex McFarland, my guest. Okay. Boom. I got something
- 52:31S1: for you. I've got a link both to his website
- 52:34S1: and a message he preached called The Empowered Believer. Now
- 52:38S1: you're going to want to check this out. This deals
- 52:42S1: with this whole issue of spiritual gifting, how God works
- 52:46S1: through it, and how he fulfills the Great Commission. So
- 52:49S1: I want to encourage you. Find out how God has
- 52:53S1: gifted you. The question is, and has God gifted you?
- 52:55S1: If you're born again, you're gifted. The only question now
- 52:58S1: is what is the gifting? How am I going to
- 53:00S1: use this thing? That's it. So text Alex a LEX.
- 53:05S1: Text Alex to 805 557898. One word, Alex to 805 557898.