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Chris Franjola and Jen Shah Pleads Guilty · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: I'm recording from Newport Beach. I have the best show
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  Speaker 1: for you because my sister, attorney at law, criminal defense attorney,
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  Speaker 1: Shannon McDonald Goldstein is here. Hi, Heather. I'm here live.
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  Speaker 1: and he's going to be the second part of the show.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just going to be such a treat. And
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  Speaker 1: so we're recording from this place for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: but we're filming it as well, and it's all super juicy.
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  Speaker 1: So woke up this morning, you were still sleeping because
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  Speaker 1: we went on the boat yesterday, and Jen Shah, one
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  Speaker 1: week before her trial was about to begin for her
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  Speaker 1: fraud case, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, did in
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  Speaker 1: fact plead guilty. And, you know, I was like reading
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  Speaker 1: it in live time of everything that was going on.
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  Speaker 1: So why don't you just explain, Shannon, exactly what's going
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  Speaker 1: down for Jen Shah? Sure. So her trial right now
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  Speaker 1: is currently set or was currently set. For June 18th.
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  Speaker 1: July 18th. July 18th, excuse me. So this is actually
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  Speaker 1: not unheard of, because now we're getting down to the wire, right?
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  Speaker 1: And everybody, it could be her, which I, who knows,
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  Speaker 1: it could be her lawyers, but everything starts to get
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  Speaker 1: really real when it's down at the very end. So
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  Speaker 1: she was basically facing two charges. One had to do
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  Speaker 1: with what we call money laundering, and another one's called
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  Speaker 1: with wire fraud, okay? Between the two of those main charges,
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  Speaker 1: there might have been various other ones, too. it basically
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  Speaker 1: meant that she was facing 30 years, a maximum of
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  Speaker 1: 30 years. And in federal court, how much time you
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  Speaker 1: end up doing if you're convicted of both ends up
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  Speaker 1: being something called sentencing guidelines, and that can vary. So
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  Speaker 1: My understanding, or it would certainly be my guess, is
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  Speaker 1: that through lots of negotiation, et cetera, one of those
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  Speaker 1: counts was agreed to be dropped. That would have been
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  Speaker 1: the money laundering. So now she's facing a maximum of 14.
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  Speaker 1: She would be pleading or did plead 14. to the
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  Speaker 1: wire fraud count. So at this point in time, if
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  Speaker 1: she pleads, and she did plead, she has to admit
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  Speaker 1: some guilt. And the reason why is because a judge
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  Speaker 1: cannot take a plea without a factual basis. So there
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  Speaker 1: has to be something that she said that indicates that
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  Speaker 1: she was guilty of something. Well, in reading it, it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty juicy. The judge, Stein, says, Ms. Shaw, what did
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  Speaker 1: you do? Shaw says, wire fraud, offering services with little
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  Speaker 1: to no value. We used interstate telephones and emails. I
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  Speaker 1: knew many of the purchasers were over the age of 55.
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  Speaker 1: I am sorry. Judge Stein, what is the reason they bought? Shaw,
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  Speaker 1: misrepresentations regarding the value of the product or service of
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  Speaker 1: which it had little to none. Judge Stein, did you
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  Speaker 1: know it was wrong and illegal? Shaw says, yes, your honor.
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  Speaker 1: So she does admit to all that and in reading it.
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  Speaker 1: interesting as like a lay person, you know, he's like,
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  Speaker 1: do you know that this means you can't vote? Does
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  Speaker 1: this mean, you know, you're a convicted felon, you'll never
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  Speaker 1: be able to vote. You'll never be able to own
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  Speaker 1: a firearm.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Are you aware of all this so that he, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and then also are you, um, do you agree to not, uh,
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  Speaker 1: appeal your time if I sentence you for 14 years
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  Speaker 1: or under in which she said yes. And so, um, what,
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  Speaker 1: what else about this do the people need to know? Well,
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  Speaker 1: So if you notice what you read, which is interesting
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  Speaker 1: to me, is a lot of that language is language
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  Speaker 1: that would probably come right out of the complaint. Usually
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  Speaker 1: in a complaint, they'll give you exactly what the account is,
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  Speaker 1: and then it'll show factual basis of it, of what
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to prove. So if you see that, it's
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  Speaker 1: not like she's giving an enormous amount of detail, except
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  Speaker 1: for the fact that she knew it was illegal and improper. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And that she was preying on what we would call
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  Speaker 1: a more vulnerable part of society, which is 55 and over.
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  Speaker 1: So now what we're going to do now is her
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  Speaker 1: attorney or attorney team is going to focus on sentencing. Sentencing,
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  Speaker 1: I now believe, is set for November. So we've got
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  Speaker 1: four or five months. So when we talk about a
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  Speaker 1: maximum of 14 years, we're talking about a maximum. So
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  Speaker 1: like I said, there is sentencing guidelines. There are minimums.
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  Speaker 1: There are maximums. So these attorneys are going to be
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  Speaker 1: doing a sentencing memorandum and they're going to be looking
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  Speaker 1: into anything they can to what we call minimize her involvement,
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  Speaker 1: sympathize with her background. So my guess would be that
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  Speaker 1: she's the last person to take a plea. Everybody else,
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  Speaker 1: there's no doubt, everybody else took a plea. Now, I'm
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  Speaker 1: assuming they took a plea and they were planning to
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  Speaker 1: testify against her, so obviously her attorneys probably said, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be a lot of evidence. It's
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  Speaker 1: not going to look good against you. They're going to
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  Speaker 1: say these things. We can certainly cross-examine them, but you
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  Speaker 1: have to consider... A maximum of 30 and a maximum
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  Speaker 1: of 14. That's a victory. So now what we do
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  Speaker 1: is we talk about– it's basically– But we know she's
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  Speaker 1: not going to get more than 14. We know she's
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  Speaker 1: not going to get more than 14. And even if
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  Speaker 1: she got 14, there's a chance that she could get out.
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  Speaker 1: I heard federal, you do a pretty high percentage of
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  Speaker 1: what you get. Yeah. So it's typically more than, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, federal prisons are different than state prisons. They,
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  Speaker 1: they are. That's just why they nicer. They're nicer. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: They're nicer because typically federal prisons are white collar crime.
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  Speaker 1: You're not talking about. You're talking about money, financial crimes.
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  Speaker 1: You're not typically talk, maybe drugs, but drugs when you're
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  Speaker 1: like the top edge of a person that's, you know,
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  Speaker 1: forfeiture type of cases. Okay. You're not talking murders.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Rapes.
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  Speaker 1: Typically you're not. Typically, you know? So this is, there's
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  Speaker 1: still a lot of work to do here and they
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  Speaker 1: obviously must find, they must have something. And my guess
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  Speaker 1: is they're going to present probably a lot of evidence
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  Speaker 1: to show that her knowledge was minimal. It was maybe knowledge. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: that she was not the top echelon, that she got
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  Speaker 1: dragged into something that she knew was improper. She's probably
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  Speaker 1: going to bring in evidence that she didn't realize how
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  Speaker 1: hurt these people really were. I believe she is also
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  Speaker 1: being required to pay $ 9 million in restitution. That is huge. Personally,
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  Speaker 1: I've worked on what I call financial embezzlement cases where
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  Speaker 1: I have been able to get it down to little
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  Speaker 1: or no time based on how much money they're willing
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  Speaker 1: to pay back. Because a lot of these people don't
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  Speaker 1: expect to get any money back. So if there's a
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  Speaker 1: way that she has, I don't know how she's going
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  Speaker 1: to do it, but if there's a way that she
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  Speaker 1: can actually pay these people back, it is going to
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  Speaker 1: affect her time. Well, I mean, we've seen the closet.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty fantastic. There's furs, there's jewels, there's all labeled jewels,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like Cartier and things like that. that really
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  Speaker 1: do stand great resale value. So, I mean, I assume
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  Speaker 1: they're going to do that. I know they don't own
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  Speaker 1: a house or they maybe secretly owned one in some
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  Speaker 1: other country, but like they were renting that Shaw Chalet thing.
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  Speaker 1: There must be some kind of proof to pay off
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  Speaker 1: that $ 9 million restitution because that is a condition of
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  Speaker 1: this plea. So there has to be. So you better
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  Speaker 1: make sure before he, she is sentenced that those people
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  Speaker 1: are made full. If they are made full, they have
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  Speaker 1: a much better argument. Then you throw in the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that's been in the media about all the stuff, all
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  Speaker 1: the charity work that she's done. You also kind of,
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  Speaker 1: I guess she's been doing some mental health, some therapy.
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  Speaker 1: I know it sounds stupid, but these are the things
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  Speaker 1: that you, as a defense attorney, you put in. These
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  Speaker 1: are the things. And I said, well, what, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you were her attorney, what would you do? And
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  Speaker 1: so we actually, you know, I like to role play. So, um,
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  Speaker 1: we have a little treat for you. We also filmed
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  Speaker 1: it so you can watch it on YouTube or you
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  Speaker 1: could go to my Instagram and TikTok, both Heather McDonald.
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  Speaker 1: But here is behind the scenes of when Jen Shah,
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  Speaker 1: what we believe might've happened with Jen Shah and her attorney.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: She's here. Wish me luck. Hi, Jen. Hi, lawyer. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's my Gucci scarf.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: That's beautiful. So, what did you want to talk to
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  Speaker 1: me about today? Coach couldn't come. He's usually my support system.
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  Speaker 1: As you know, and I'm sorry Coach couldn't be here,
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  Speaker 1: but as you know, Jen, I am your support system,
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  Speaker 1: and I have been for the last couple of months. Well,
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  Speaker 1: since I had to fire the last three because they
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  Speaker 1: were just... I found out a few of them were
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  Speaker 1: following some Bravo blogs, and I just felt like those
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  Speaker 1: people aren't my true fans. My true fans are the
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  Speaker 1: Shaw Squad, and they're the ones that helped me create
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  Speaker 1: the merchandise. I don't know why you're not wearing the
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  Speaker 1: free Jen Shaw t-shirt that I gave you. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I just came from court, so I didn't have much time.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I think Kim Kardashian probably would have. She's all about branding.
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  Speaker 1: well as you know I'm not a brander but I
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  Speaker 1: do you think Kim would like to do a Skims
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  Speaker 1: collab with me well Let's talk about the matter at hand, Jen, okay?
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  Speaker 1: So as you know, we're getting very close to the
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  Speaker 1: trial date, just a week away. Yes. Well, I do
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  Speaker 1: have some good news. I have some really great outfits planned.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people have sent me some things because
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  Speaker 1: I am a star, and I didn't think what Amber
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  Speaker 1: Heard wore was really that great, and I'm always known
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  Speaker 1: for fashion. As you can see, all the greatest designers
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  Speaker 1: love me. So I was thinking a Balenciaga, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with the shoes that go all the way up to
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  Speaker 1: your waist. Well, before we go there, let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: the legal because you are going to trial. I've been
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  Speaker 1: working very hard with the prosecutor on this and even
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  Speaker 1: have spoken to the judge. Okay. So as you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're facing two very serious counts.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And you're facing a maximum of 30 years.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: But I've made a lot of strides. My babies would
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  Speaker 1: be so old by then. And I'm I'm actually happy
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  Speaker 1: to tell you that they are willing to dismiss the
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  Speaker 1: money laundering. And so you're only facing a maximum... I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I never even did my own laundry. How do they
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  Speaker 1: even have any evidence about that? Well, as we've gone
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  Speaker 1: through this about 20 times over the last three months,
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  Speaker 1: that's not what money laundering is. It's just lies. It's
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  Speaker 1: lies because they're jealous because I'm the most favorite housewife
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  Speaker 1: out of the 112 housewives that have made appearances on Bravo. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know I know that. Some people are jealous. So
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  Speaker 1: let's get back to the matter at hand, Jen. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: So we are now looking at, I think you should
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  Speaker 1: seriously consider possibly taking this deal. Now, before you get upset,
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  Speaker 1: I know how important your family is, and I know
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  Speaker 1: how important it is that you maintain your innocence. But
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  Speaker 1: really what's more important, Jen, is that we try to
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  Speaker 1: get through this with the least amount of time as possible.
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  Speaker 1: And we've already... Teresa did one year and they held
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  Speaker 1: the show for her. And I am not done working
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  Speaker 1: for you, Jen. I want you to know that. If
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  Speaker 1: we take this plea, I will be working so hard
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  Speaker 1: for the next three to four months, as long as
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  Speaker 1: I can put it off. And we're going to put
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  Speaker 1: together a sentencing memorandum like you've never seen before. But
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  Speaker 1: I need you to do a few things.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I need you to maybe wear a few less purses.
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  Speaker 1: Is that something you can consider? I mean, this is
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  Speaker 1: my brand and I love fashion and fashion loves me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm the queen bee and the MVP and everybody's jealous
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  Speaker 1: of me. I understand that. But we want you to
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  Speaker 1: be a little more sympathetic and sometimes less purses and
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  Speaker 1: less scarves. Where's Mary Crosby? She's in trouble. She created
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  Speaker 1: a cult and slept with her grandfather and had children
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  Speaker 1: with him. Why isn't she on trial? Where's Erika Jayne?
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  Speaker 1: Why is she living in a dollhouse and saying mean
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  Speaker 1: things to Garcelle's sons? Why aren't you going after her?
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  Speaker 1: Why aren't you trying to convict her? Why is it
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  Speaker 1: just me, the girl who has dark hair and brown eyes? Well,
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  Speaker 1: like you were saying, I think we can actually work
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  Speaker 1: that to our advantage. Your background is really important and unique.
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  Speaker 1: The changes you had to make. what you had to
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  Speaker 1: suffer as a child. I really need you... I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I've never been a Polynesian housewife before. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: people know how hard it is to make Polynesian food. Well,
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  Speaker 1: these are the kind of things... Who's going to make
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  Speaker 1: that for my boys and coach when I'm gone? Jen,
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  Speaker 1: I need you to focus, Jen. I need you to
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  Speaker 1: write down all of the Polynesian foods that are the
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  Speaker 1: most difficult Polynesian foods to make. We'll start there.
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  Speaker 3: Rice.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I also.
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  Speaker 1: I can't do this. I need you to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that if I have to go to Ty, which you
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  Speaker 1: said I would if I made this plea deal, can
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  Speaker 1: you talk to Andy and see if they can do
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  Speaker 1: one more Ultimate Girls trip? Yes. So that I can
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  Speaker 1: experience that. I don't want to be with Dorinda. She's
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  Speaker 1: really scary. But I would like Erica Jane, Teresa Giudice,
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  Speaker 1: I think Caroline Manzo. I don't know that she's done
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  Speaker 1: anything illegal, but. I think she would be someone that
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  Speaker 1: could help me, um, get prepared for the inside. Can
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  Speaker 1: you spell the last name of Teresa? What was that?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody knows how to spell it. What is it? Judice
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  Speaker 1: or Gucci or Louise? I'll just say Gucci and I'll
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  Speaker 1: remember that. And, um, and I need, I mean, I have,
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  Speaker 1: thank God I have assistants cause they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: to put my free Jen Shaw merch on sale. Can
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  Speaker 1: you help with that? Can you post about that and
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  Speaker 1: share it? And, um, Okay. I mean, I guess I
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  Speaker 1: have to do this just because my assistant was mad
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  Speaker 1: at me, even though I fed him a banana and
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  Speaker 1: took care of his family. I think we need to
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  Speaker 1: concentrate on the time. And you know that I am
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  Speaker 1: your best defender. I am there for you. I will
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  Speaker 1: protect you. And I will fight for you. But I
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  Speaker 1: do need you to fight for yourself. So we need
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  Speaker 1: to take a new focus. And we need to think
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  Speaker 1: about sympathy, modesty. Do you know what that word means? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of Mormons are like that, and
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  Speaker 1: I have a lot of Mormons on my cast, but
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  Speaker 1: they're actually not very modest. I'm the one that everybody loves.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how my fans are going to react,
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  Speaker 1: but I will take responsibility to an extent if you
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  Speaker 1: could just get it down to just a few years.
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  Speaker 1: And I will... I mean, when I was helping those...
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  Speaker 1: Those people... Forget it.
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  Speaker 2: Just.
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  Speaker 1: All right, lawyer. Let's... Let's go. Because I... You said...
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  Speaker 1: I need to go shopping. Well, before we go shopping,
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  Speaker 1: you had mentioned to me before that you worked on
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  Speaker 1: many charities. In fact, I think you were even on
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  Speaker 1: a board of a charity. Can you tell me... The
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  Speaker 1: Jen Shaw Board.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: And the Jen Shaw Foundation. Are there any... And the squad...
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  Speaker 1: The squad... The Shaw Squad... international help for former Polynesian cheerleaders.
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  Speaker 1: Are there any charities you've worked on that maybe people
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  Speaker 1: have heard of that don't have your name in it?
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  Speaker 1: One Hit Wonders, Housewives, that would like to go on
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  Speaker 1: Ultimate Girls trips. Okay, that sounds good. And who did
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  Speaker 1: that benefit? Women that have only been on the Housewives
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  Speaker 1: one time, Peggy Salalian, this construction worker named Barbara Barbara? Okay, Barbara. Now,
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  Speaker 1: did Barbara have any children that maybe you supported while
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  Speaker 1: she was wearing a hard hat? No, but she does
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  Speaker 1: TikTok dances. Does she happen to know some nurses? There's
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  Speaker 1: two from OC, Noella, and Dr.
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  Speaker 4: Jen.
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  Speaker 1: Any nurses there? She does Botox. Okay. Anything that has
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  Speaker 1: to do maybe with a kidney donation? Something a little
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  Speaker 1: more sympathetic, Jen.
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  Speaker 4: Focus.
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  Speaker 1: Um... I've had a urinary tract infection. Wow. You never
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: told me that. About two years ago.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: And I had to drink a lot of cranberry juice
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: and I was filming that day. I hate cranberry juice.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: And when I missed a scene, they all talked about me. Okay.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: So we're really making some strides here. This is good.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: This is good. I can get people to write letters
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: about what a great person I am.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Can we get any letters from like... Definitely not the
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: fashion designer who I screamed at and he taped me
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: about my outfit for the reunion. Don't call him. Are
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: there any fashion designers from maybe something like a Kohl's
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: or a Target or something where we're helping people start
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: their own fashion line?
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: No.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Let me see. We're good here. Okay. Anything else? Anything
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: else that you can... Have you rescued any animals? No.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: No.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, the ones that I'm wearing, yes.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: We'll work on that. Okay, Jen. So tomorrow I need
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: to meet you in the courthouse. I need you to
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: be there exactly a half hour early. There'll be a
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: back door where you can go through. And at that
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: point in time, I will have the plea deal written
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: up and we'll go through the fine details at that time.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: As you know, I am your defender. I am helping you.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Everything is going to be okay, Jen. I'm here for you.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I still would have rather had Kim Kardashian. Well, we're
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: still working on that. She's so skinny and blonde now,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: so I don't even know if she'd want to help me.
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  Speaker 1: Life is one long lesson yeah of chaos i'm heading
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  Speaker 1: don't know if they're filming right now or if they've
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  Speaker 1: already finished the season for Salt Lake City. I know
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  Speaker 1: that they were set to leave for ultimate girls trip
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  Speaker 1: in Thailand, which includes Heather Gay and Whitney Rose. And, um,
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  Speaker 1: someone wrote me that was supposed to begin like July
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• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Gay were in New York this week with Jen. So, um,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: so much juice there would love to, I'm sure we'll
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: find out more of what went down. And if she
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: said it, I, you and I pulled up, um, up
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: an Adams interview from YouTube that I had never, that
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I just didn't watch because I just knew it wasn't
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: going to be that much, you know, detail. He was
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: very sweet to her. But, um, one thing that you
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: said was interesting is in telling her life story to Adam,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: she said, Jen Shaw said, um, well, at one time
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I had a corporate job and I was the only female,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the only woman of color, um, And they wouldn't let
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  Speaker 1: me come to the boardroom. And they said, oh, you
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  Speaker 1: can just send your notes or whatever. And she said,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: and that's when I realized, you know, I'm just not
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: going to be able to succeed in this man's world.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I got to do my own thing. And you said
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: that might've been some motivation for the prosecution. Like this
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: was your motivation to do something that on your own- Right.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know if any of them, or they left.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I think the attorneys resigned, and it could have been
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: a couple of different things. One is, I think there
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: was a major motion, in the sense that they were
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: doing a motion to dismiss, and I know it was
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: not granted. Then there was a lot of talk about
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a subpoena that they wanted. They wanted all the background
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: of that Hulu show.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Hulu, yeah.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Hulu show. Just as an attempt to get the witnesses
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: that testified, or things that were not shown, so they
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: could then... you know, do their investigation. That was not granted. So,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: you know, things start to crumble a little bit. And then,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: and then I was telling you that then if you
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: start doing interviews like that, even though technically you're not
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: talking about the case, now you're going rogue, as I
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: would say, and you're not, there's no way any of
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: those attorneys have said, yes, do this YouTube video on
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Adams up and up. No way, no way. Yeah. They
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: don't care how she, I mean, at this stage, I
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: don't care how she looks because as you know, we
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: discussed earlier, now they're going to care. You know, now
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: we want to make her sympathetic. Watching it was great, uh,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: creative inspiration for me to embody Jen Shaw and how
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I felt that might, that our previous, uh, you know,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: improv might've gone. Um, okay. So let's get into what's
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: going on with Erica Jane. Okay. A, um, you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a new legal document came out. How would you explain this?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: This came out at the end of last week. It
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: was filed on July 6th, 2022. Well, it looks like
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: it's a complaint probably from another many of, uh, of
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: a victim, uh, And it really goes into detail. And
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: it basically talks about what Erica may or may not
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: have known about just everything. Using the funds that were
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: reserved for the victims, for her business, paying her glam squad,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: buying the earrings, which she has now been ordered to
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: give back. What is interesting is they're using stuff from
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the show in this complaint. And my favorite part was
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: So Erica's bizarre new version of events, this is directly
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: from the complaint, made her castmates who were still trying
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to make sense of the revelations uncomfortable. For example, after
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the episode aired, castmate Sutton said, Sutton Strack said, And
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: this is about Tom when they first were hit with
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Tom's accident of how it was snowing or maybe that
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: was when the sun went and how he got in
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the accident and he rolled and he had a concussion
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: and all this other stuff. And then PK said, you know,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: he's not a fucking circus star.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Don't.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Don't deal with the brain. Just fix the ankle. Because
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: originally when he got in the car accident on the show,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: she said he got in a car accident and he
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: broke his ankle or hurt his ankle. She never mentioned
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the head injury to Kyle a couple seasons back. And
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: they quote Sutton in this complaint, which is much have
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Sutton freaking out. But Sutton says, I just don't know
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: why we were all of a sudden talking about this
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: accident and why we're talking about this head injury. It's
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: a confusing story. I got a little uncomfortable. I'm not
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: going to lie. And then I think the rest of
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the girls who knew this story about some car accident
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: were hearing new information from Erica this time around. I mean,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that's juicy that they're taking stuff directly from the show
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: because they're trying to say, so then this is what's
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: really interesting. Regardless of whether her new version of the
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: 2017 car accident is true or not, the timing of
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Erica's decision to provide the new details when she did,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: while filming on December 14th, 2020, reveals that she is
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: using her platform on Housewives to assist with Tom's defense
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: because indeed, On the exact same day that Erica's new
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: version of events was filmed for Housewives and months before
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: it aired, that is when Tom's lawyers appeared for a
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: hearing in the Lion Air case and raised issues about
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: his mental competency for the very first time in court.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: When asked what happened to the Lion Air widows and
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: orphans settlement money, Tom's attorney stated that Mr. Girardi is
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: 81 years of age and has had issues regarding his
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: mental competence and requested an opportunity to have a mental evaluation.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: So that is extremely juicy. So basically, they're saying she
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: chose to tell that that day so that this would
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: all line into what they were saying in court right
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: around that same time. So they're saying the timing is
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: extremely coincidental. Or this accident happened. They concentrated on the ankle.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: They didn't know he had a head injury. He got older.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: His competency started to dissipate. Erica is trying to show
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: that that's probably when it happened, although she did not
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: know about it three years later. I don't know if
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: you totally get over the coincidental nature. She didn't know
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: about it three years previous. Right. But we're talking about
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: it now because the lawyers have said, wow, we really
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: are dealing with competency. And she's noticed it too. She
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: thought it was simply old age. Now it could have
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: been a head injury, old age. dementia, other diseases. I'm
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: just playing devil's advocate here for you. But because what
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: you're reading from, which is extremely juicy, is what they
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: need to do to prove. I mean, what we're doing
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: with the complaint really is We have to put enough
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: information in the complaint so that there's enough evidence to
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: move forward with this civil complaint, in other words. So
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: if you don't have enough in there, then you can
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: do something called a demur, and it basically is thrown out.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: So her people try to get thrown out. Right. So
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: what they're going to do is now we're going to
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: go in another lawsuit, go through what we call depositions, interrogators.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: all of that discovery. You read this. What else was
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: juicy about this that you found? Well, I think what's
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: interesting is that, you know, you talk a lot about
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: her business. Yeah. And then you talk about Girardi Keys.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: And her glam squad. Right. Getting paid from... the company. Right. Well,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: they're also paying her bills. The company is paying her expenses. Right.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: The law firm. So what they're saying, I mean, you
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: could look at it two ways. You could say, okay,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I have a law firm, but he's also my husband.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: And this is where the money comes and we're paying
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: off our bills from the law firm.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Or since it's such an extreme amount, 25 million, 25
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: million credit cards over the years.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And she wasn't an actual employee. How did she not know?
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: But there are people that you pay your bills. You
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: pay your bills from your checking account. You pay your
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: bills from your business account. But because she was running
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: her own business, why wouldn't that be separated? And by
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: not having it separated, it would appear that they could
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: then use all this money and say, well, this is
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: why we're in debt. We're not in debt because we
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: were stealing money from people. We weren't making money. We
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: were in debt because... you know, Tom was so in
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: love with Erica and he just didn't understand his finances
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: and oh my God, you're paying what for what, you know?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, to do it simply. Yes. I know specific
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: makeup artists that were paid directly from Girardi and Keith
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: and the, and it was always very generous and it
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: was never late. And that, and I don't think she's
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: denying that either. Her defense is just like, I'm a
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: stripper that never went to college. My rich husband told
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: me I could have this career and, And that these
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: expenses would be covered because he does so well as
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: an attorney. I didn't think that by me dancing and
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: getting hair extensions, I was taking away from an orphan.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: And they're saying, yes, you did. So that's really what
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: it is. But this was kind of juicy over the weekend.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: So Ron Richards, who's no longer part of this case,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: but he is dying to be a housewife. And he
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: tweets about it all the time. And she freaking hates him. And...
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: So in this particular thing, she came after his wife
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: and her name is Lauren Boyette Richards is her name.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Lauren Boyette Richards is Ronald Richards, the attorney's wife. And
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: she wrote at Lauren, Lauren, get back on all fours
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: and take it in the ass from that beast that
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: you're married to. She tweeted that. And then she also
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: wrote to, uh, to Lauren, lame like you, stay out
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: of this. You look dehydrated. Good luck, Lauren. He's going
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: to turn on you. Be careful. Free yourself and find
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: a new life. You need to be careful. He will
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: turn on you. I'm not being mean. Protect yourself. And
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: then she writes to Erica, what makes you think he
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: would turn on me? He's nothing like Tom. Lauren, he
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: is Tom. Take care of yourself, please. Thank you for
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: your concern, Erica. Do you have any receipts to back
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: up your comment? And that's when she said, Lauren, get
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: back on all fours and take it in the ass
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: from that beast you're married to. It's expensive to be me.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: And Erica's had a bad week with the episode that
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: was aired this week on Housewives. She's getting very, very lit.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: She likes to drink a lot with the Lexapro and
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the booze. And she was real wet and horny for
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Garcelle's older son, Oliver. who is married with a child
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: that also a step father to his wife's three kids.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: So he was a family guy. He's a good looking guy.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: And he's adult. He's an adult.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: He's like 30. Well, no, I have to, I have
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to be honest. I have not been following it. And
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: when I, when I heard about it on social media,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, for some reason I remember the two
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: little 12 and 14 year old boys. I was freaking out.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: She has twin boys who are 14. Oh, thank goodness.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: This guy is from her first guy.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Got it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: And, um, And so he goes to her 50th birthday party,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: and she shows up, and she brings both the 14-year-old
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: twins and Oliver, the older son. And so she is
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: just sitting there, and she's like, Oliver, Oliver, are you married?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: You have a baby mama. What's up? Call her up.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Tell her, DM me. Let's do a three-way. Let's get it.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I am lit. And Dorit's like, Erica, Erica. Amazing. You know,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: and Garcelle's like, what, what's going on? So then he's like, haha,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I'm flattered. Goodbye. But she was like, so like coming like, Hey,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: like just, so then they're like, Oh, do you want
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: to take your arrangements home? You know, um, Garcelle, she goes, yes.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: So Crystal goes, Hey, to one of the boys, Jack's,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: can you help bring out these flowers? Which are right
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: in front of drunk Erica and Dorit. So he comes
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: to get the flowers and she's like, what are you
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: doing here? Shut the fuck up and get the fuck
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: out of here. And the poor little 14 year old goes, what?
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I'm getting some flowers. And Garcelle was like, what is happening?
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: All right, I'll deal with this later. So in this
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: coming week, we do see, she confronts her. Cause I
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: saw a clip and I will give Garcelle some credit.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: She does. First of all, she on a walk, she's like,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Oh please. Those little fuckers are 16. And they're like,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: actually Erica, they're 14. And she was like, oh. And
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: so she does go, I, I, you're right. That was awful.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: And people really, and she said, and by the way,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: your boys are really well behaved and really great. And
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I noticed that before I got so drunk and told
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: him to get the fuck out of here. I thought
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: he was kind of a delight for not being on
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: his phone. So she says that. Did she say him
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: to get the fuck out because they were interrupting a
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: conversation that was supposedly happening?
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: But they weren't even talking. It was just like, And
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: so then the story gets relayed to Kyle and Mauricio
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: with PK and Dorit. And Kyle was not there in
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Kyle's defense, but she's laughed. She's like, I love this
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: new Erica. I love this new. And they're like, wow, Kyle,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: you didn't love when Kim was getting drunk. Right. And
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: you called her an alcoholic in the limo. Right. And,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: you know, and she said, you stole my goddamn house.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: And she's like, you are like a fucking second wife.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: You know, like, so we see Kyle's behavior not great
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: this week. So she's laughing in Kyle's defense. She's like,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that, you know, of course, in retrospect, like,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: cause people were also like, what if that was one
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: of your daughters? Like, this is so sexist just because
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: he's a boy. He's still 14. You can't talk to
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: a boy like that. What if a man said to Portia,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here or tried to hit
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: on one of your daughters? What if one of these
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: men were like, Hey Farrah, you know, are you single?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I'd like to have a threesome with you and your fiance. Like,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: how would you? But it is interesting because now Erica
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: is going to make that excuse that she was drunk
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: and there really isn't anything different than what, than Kim's
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: bad behavior.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So then another thing that Kyle did that was
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: bad this week is Sutton is not getting along with
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the new girl, Diane Jenkins, who has some licking problem.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: People have put it together. So how She's constantly licking
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: her lips and blah, blah, blah. And she's got all
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: this money and she doesn't like Sutton because I believe
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that she is now the richest. Then Sutton. Got it.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I once was the richest. I used to have two jets.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Now I live in a dollhouse with no earrings. So
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Erica has no money, but she's just like, let me
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: be friends with Diane Jenkins because like that used.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: To be me.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: So- And she hates Sutton for good reason. Look what
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: you did. Did you read the latest complaint? Thanks a lot, Sutton. Well,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: there's nothing that shows in that complaint that Sutton said
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: anything but what she said online. I know. But why
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: is she so mad at me anyway? So she goes
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: to try to talk to Diane Jenkins. And she's being
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a bitch, Sutton. Because Diane Jenkins
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: said she wasn't going to be able to come to
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Garcelle's party because she had suffered a miscarriage and the
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: doctor says stay home. But then she came. So then
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Sutton was like, I thought you were going to stay home.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: And Diane Jenkins is like, really? Really? You want a
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: new villain? I'm right here. You're going to talk about
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: whether I can stay home or not. And of course,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: women at home are like, don't fucking do that. Sometimes
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: you're in bed rest, sometimes you're not. It's not your
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: fucking business. But in talking to her, Sutton says, listen,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I am so sorry. I too have suffered two miscarriages. Well,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Kyle comes over there after she just was wiping the
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: floor with her pussy. And by that, I meant she
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: did the splits and was like dancing around. And she's
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: wearing just a one-piece bathing suit with like a skirt
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: over it. Pretty slutty outfit for Kyle, but whatever. Is
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: it in her store? Is it in her store in
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: El Paso? No, it's definitely not her store. The store
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: is just like long satin dusters. No, it's loungewear. So
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of flowy... I mean, this is pretty
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: flattering for like the pool or if you, I mean,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: she looked good in it. Her body looked good. So
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: she's getting drunk.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: And she comes over and she goes, Sutton, what do
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: you mean you had two miscarriages? I, we're just hearing
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: about it now. Really? Really? And then she, while she's
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: doing it, she's grabbing Sutton. She's pushing her. And the
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: sleuth said that they saw like a mark on Sutton's,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: arm afterwards and other people said no that mark was
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: there before whatever she was physically very similar what she
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: did in the limo with kim okay right in your
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: face and like as sisters she might have been a
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: girl that got a little physical with her sisters i
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: don't know back in the day we did too you
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: know it's like so she um so does kim so
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: does kim and courtney like they beat the shit out
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: of each other i don't know so she's and she's
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: like oh my god She since has apologized on camera
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: and all over the internet. But here's my thing. Did
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: you hear that the agency, Mauricio and Kyle, have their
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: own Kardashians coming? They're going to have their own show
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: on Netflix about their girls working in real estate with them,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: with him. It's based in Orange County, right? Their Orange
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: County office? No, it's going to be Beverly Hills.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, it is.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: It's called Buying Beverly Hills and it's Netflix, not Bravo.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: It's called what? Buying Beverly Hills. Buying Beverly Hills. So
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: it's like Selling Sunset, but with Mauricio, probably a couple
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: other people from his office. The two older girls definitely
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: work in real estate. I think the third might be
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: getting her license or she's still in college. And then,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: of course, Portia's only like 14, the little one. So
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: they're basically just highlighting the kids. They're not highlighting other
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: agents like you see in Selling Sunset or whatever. But
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know I sold a show to CBS
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: about me being a real estate broker with mom and dad. Now,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: it wasn't reality at the time because reality TV was
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: nowhere near. It was a scripted sitcom. But once again,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: who thought of it first? Okay. Somewhat. Anyway, but I
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: think it's a great idea. And I do think... that
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: uh it's just very coincidental that kyle who has basically
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: been unscathed as a housewife for whatever how many years
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: she's been on she's certainly not getting the best edit
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: from bravo this year so i don't think they're so
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: thrilled about her taking her whole family over to netflix
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: and maybe at this point she might be like i
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: don't i need i can take like a bethany break
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: You know, when Bethany got her talk show, she left
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: New York. Maybe she should take this little break and
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: really try to give all her time and effort into
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: making their reality show successful because it's twofold. Not only
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: could they become Kardashian light, but then you're also growing
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: this huge, you know, real estate empire where there's agency
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: franchises everywhere. So if I was her after this season,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I would be like, you know what? Let me fight
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: with my own offspring. Well, she's also, by doing the
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: thing with Sutton, by pushing and making a big deal
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: about something that really was a total overreaction, well, now
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it's play for her. Maybe she doesn't look good for Bravo,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: but everyone else is talking about what she's doing on
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: the show. So sometimes, in my opinion, she can come
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: off as very level-headed. She's the top mama. She's the
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: mother bearer. She's the most normal. She's married, has a business.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And now she's getting a little messy. And so now
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: people might think, oh, this show on Netflix might get
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: a little messy. But it might be real good. I
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: want to watch it because, yeah, because if it's just
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: strictly about real estate. No, I mean, hopefully she, you know,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: hopefully there's some other realtors like her age that she
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: could be kind of friends with or have. Who knows?
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: But I mean, it's just crazy. Also, Best of Bravo
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: is reporting that that longtime besties, Teresa of New Jersey
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and Dina have had a falling out. And it's because
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: of their, something with their husband, their husband and fiance, Louie.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: And supposedly she's not going to the wedding. That would
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: be huge because they have never, ever had an issue
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: in all these years. So that would be pretty tragic
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: if that was true. Um, the New Jersey house husbands,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, but they made
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: it a calendar. Like I said, it was 1989. Who
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: the hell has a stud calendar? Um, Well, especially at
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: their ages. I think it's for charity. Who cares? Noella
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: and Dr. Jen have officially left the show. Real Housewives
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: of OC here in OC. You guys, I'm on literally
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: boots on the ground. The rumor is that they're going
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: to go with some bring back some classic ladies. And
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: with Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip and Dorinda, I've really
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: enjoyed seeing Tamara and Vicki again. And so maybe they'll
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: even bring back Gretchen. Maybe they'll, you know, do something
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: like that. And I don't know about Emily and Gina.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: But it'd be great to bring back some of the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: originals because Orange County was the original. Because you have
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Heather and you have Shannon. And then Shannon and Tamara
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: had such a good friendship, but they had a kind
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: of a break because I think it's really hard once
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: one person stays on the show and the other one
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't for obvious reasons. And why are you hanging out
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: with that person? Or when you talk on the phone
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: all the time, then you're filming the show. You probably
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be talking to the person that is no longer
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: on the show. It's probably not healthy for her. And
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: so I think that's where Shannon and Tamara had this split,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: but I'd love to see them all be on the
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: show and see the juice of that friendship hopefully repair,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: but there could be some interesting things for us to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: watch as you see two women that were that close
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: come back, have to come back together. Well, I think
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: that is always more interesting than bringing new people in
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: where suddenly you're supposed to be starting this friendship. You
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: don't know them. And then, and then it's on camera
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: and it just comes off as sort of disingenuous and, and, and,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and not that exciting, you know, and then you're bringing
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: in a whole new, just bring in the traditional, um,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: there was such a good vibe between all these people,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: even when it was destructive, it was entertaining, right?
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: They're just funny. And we know them. It's hard to
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: get to. That's why I think Dubai is struggling because
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: not only are we, you know, with all these other franchises,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: maybe one or two new gals join in and they
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: sometimes don't even introduce like the second gal to like
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth episode. So you're like, okay, like
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: right now, Garcelle has a friend, Cherie, that's making it
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: a couple appearances, but it's like you, it eased in Dubai.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: We have to not only know a new city, but
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: we have to learn like seven new girls, uh, And,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: and people are not enjoying it that much. Cause I
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: think it's a lot of effort and it's just, it's
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: not that, I don't know. It's not gelling like other shows,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: but Lisa Renna said, um, got mad. You know, she
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: was left alone in her room. Harry Hamlin's like doing
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: a play and she was dancing around at her free,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: the people's stuff and went crazy on Twitter once again
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: and said, if you don't like Beverly Hills, let me
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: tell you something. go and watch Dubai. And it got
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: interpreted because she said, when I, when anyone fights with Garcelle,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: people accuse us of being racist. If you don't like it,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: go watch Dubai. And I think she meant, go watch Dubai.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: It's not as juicy as ours. So shut up. What
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: do you want? You complain that things are boring and
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: then we give you something juicy and you go below
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: the belt to the fans. She said, no, that's not
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: what I meant. And I've talked to a couple of
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: girls from Dubai and we're all good. We're going to
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: go shopping in Dubai. So there you go with that. Oh,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: and then Bronwyn, mother of seven, bisexual, full-blown lesbian, recovering alcoholic, she,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: she's been in page six and stuff a lot. She
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: said that she'd had, um, was quite busy living half
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: of her life in a studio apartment with her lesbian
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: girlfriend and having, um, what was it? 10, 10 to
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: 15 orgasms a day, 10 minutes each, 15 orgasms a day,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: 10 minutes each. So that's 150 minutes out of your life.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Anyway, it wasn't good enough. They broke up. They broke up.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: So I'm sure she is trolling around just looking for
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: any cameras in the OC trying to get back on.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you think there's any chance that
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: maybe she might take this time to spend more time
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: with her children and miss? I mean, there are seven
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: of them. I don't know why she was living in
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: New York besides to get fingered, but I think that
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: she was trying to get on other reality shows out there.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I heard on the street there were a couple other
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: opportunities like late in life lesbian. They were trying to
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: get a chaotic show about that. They were trying to
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: get late in life lesbians who also don't drink. So
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: she was like, I'm a doubleheader. It didn't work out.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: So now she's back here. So yeah, I think it's
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: good that she's back here. She still has yet to
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: divorce the husband. They're best friends. They're not divorcing. And
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: they were kind of doing the nesting thing where she'd
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: leave and go to New York, then come back to
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: the house. But she's here. So she's actually in Orange County.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Now I guess she is back because there's nothing left
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: for her. Well, this might be very interesting. There might
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: be a new scoop right around the corner. Yes. So
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: there we go. That's everything, Shannon. I just thank you
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: for being here. We will be watching all of this. Yeah.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Stay tuned on more legal drama and other good juicy scoop.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Chris is waiting in the wing, so we're going to
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: do Hot Topics with Chris Frangiole now. Thanks, Heather. Hello,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Chris Frangiole. You are back.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: One thing you always say about your role as the
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: top of the pyramid of the Juicy Scoopers.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: Ah, sure, sure.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: That we constantly use you as the guinea pig. And
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: once again, that's why you are my first guest here
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: at the OC office.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Sitting at some table that looks like I'm the president
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: of the United States.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: It was perfect because I had Shannon on and she
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: was being a lawyer.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: And this very much looks like a lawyer's office.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: It's very Larry H. Parker.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: That's sitting behind the desk saying I can get you
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: money or call me. I'll get you money.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Yes. So once again, you are the Guinea pig, um,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: drove down. Love you for it.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: From, uh, Los Angeles to where are we now? Currently
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Newport beach, California.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: And, uh, here I am about an hour and a half.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Nobody cares.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: A lot of gas, you know, gas these days. I'm
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: just saying that it should be known.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: We are going to go to a cute lunch after,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: and I will be picking it up.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Good to know.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't know.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Um, Chris, so you just came back from a sexy
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: time in the Hamptons. I enjoyed watching your Insta stories
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: about you embracing your Hamptons douchiness. You're a douche influencer,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: you called yourself?
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: I was a douche influencer at the Christian Dior pop-up.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: I went to the Christian Dior pop-up over in Terny.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Did you buy anything?
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Well, it is interesting that I don't, I mean, I
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: know Christian Dior. I just don't know the real prices,
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: especially like the Hamptons prices.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: You know, the ones that they sell on Canal Street
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Exactly right. The ones on the sidewalk in New York.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: How are they doing that? Because it looks like it's
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: normally 5,000. It looks exactly the same. Well, not only
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: does it look exactly the same. I was with my
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: sister-in-law and she had a Christian Dior bag or whatever.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: One of those beach bags. One of those like navy
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: blue big ones.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: So it's like $ 4, 000 online.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: And then I see her just put it in the
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: sand and my wife's like, there's no way that can
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: be real. She just put it down in the sand.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: So I said, oh, well, ask her, you know? So
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: I said, is that a real one? I don't care
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: anything about this kind of stuff, but it's all fascinating.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: And she goes, no, I got it for $ 25 on
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: the sidewalk in New York City.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: See, when you're the person that bought that exact bag
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: for the four grand.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: That's why, I mean, that's why I feel like that
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: particular bag, I've seen so many people have. When I
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: see like a 14 year old, like, you know, walking
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: around the mall with it, I'm like, there's no way
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: that's real. Right. And then you're the person that bought
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: the reel. You're like, I mean, I think go buy
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: the Gucci stuff. Go experience. If you could afford it,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: go to the store and buy it.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: But buy something that's a little unique or for the season.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Not one that like everyone has. That's my advice.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: I'll wait for you.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: That's my advice.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Because it's just like, yeah. But you went to the
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Dior thing and what happened? Anyone recognize you?
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: You know, I got to tell you a lot. I
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: was getting a lot of people just yelling Frangiole from
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: afar as I drove around Montauk on an electric bicycle.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: Have you ever gone on an electric bicycle?
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: We have two scooters here and an electric bike, and
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: we've been going all around.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: You did a pedal and it just... Moves you along.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: You don't really have to pedal very hard.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: No.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: It's the greatest thing that has ever happened. Until my
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: battery ran out miles from home and I had to
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: go up and down.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: People would be like, wait a minute.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, it was brutal. I mean, hopefully nobody saw me there.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Why didn't you charge it all the way up?
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: Because the guy who I rented it from gave me
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: the wrong charger. I went and got the new charger. Well, listen.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: No one wants to hear your charging story. Yeah, nobody.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: But you had a good time.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: Great time out there. I did go to a party.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Do tell.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: Some kind of a party with the guy who used
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: to date one of the twins from, Olsen twins, but
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: he was also the brother of a French.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Is he the old French man?
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: Sardowski.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: You went to his party? Yes. How did you get
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: invited to that?
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: Well, I went to a place where the party was at.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: I was in the same restaurant where his party was at.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: But wait. So it was kind of a whole deal.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: It went from me imagining you walking into his house
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: out of a movie to now you happen to wander
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: into a private dining room at a restaurant that you
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: were paying for.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's like on a dock.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but he drives up in a yacht. Yachts pull up.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: And then he like has his food and just walks
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: down the dock, gets in the boat and just drives
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: it off himself. He was driving it. So, I mean,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: it's just like right out of like a movie. This
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: guy lives the life you think he would live being
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: the French prime minister's brother or whatever he is.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: We were having dinner with our friends, a couple who've
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: been married as long as us. And there's this huge yacht.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: It's like a famous yacht here.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: And we saw the guy all dressed up like below
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: deck with the owner who is a dapper gentleman who's
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: very old and he's in a wheelchair. And, um, but,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: my friend and I were like, there's our next husband,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: like who's going to get him.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: So he goes really by. I take my friend's shirt.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I like pull it down. And she, and as he's,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: as he's just going by, like, like give her some cleavage. And, um,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: she's like, I love your boat. And he goes, well,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I love you. And he just, he just kept going by.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, there you go there. But imagine like, that's,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: that's what you're doing just to get on a boat.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: The boat gets old after a while. And so just
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: as old as his penis, like it gets old.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: But, um, That's pretty great. So you had a great time.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Great time. Yes. Fancy, fancy people out there.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Finally, we're living the lives that we were meant.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: To be living. Well, yeah. Kind of, I guess.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty happy.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: It's great. I only have this for a few weeks,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: so I'm saving every moment. Yeah. No, we're having a
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: lot of fun. We went out. We've been on the boat.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: We had dinner with Shannon Bedore, went to her house.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: She made the best barbecue ribs I've ever had. Wow.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Just having fun. Like, this is like very, very fun.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Went to Ireland.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: That's right. I saw. Yeah. Can you talk about that
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: or no?
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't say what happened in my episode,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: but I did name that tune.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: Name that tune. But I don't feel like you'd be
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: good at name that tune. Do you know? Like, I'm
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: not saying it in a bad way.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: It's not a critical thing to say. Like, I mean.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: That's the thing why I was nervous about it because
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like I know songs and I
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: can sing it, but the last thing I know is
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: the title or who wrote it.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: You don't have to know the artist, but you do
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: have to know the title.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: And what year are they doing the songs from?
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: You could say the title, but if you say too much,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: like too long of a thing, instead of just saying
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: like yesterday, if you said, I loved you till yesterday,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: they'd be like, that's wrong. So yeah, it's like a
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: half hour show.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And we played for charity. And so, yeah, I
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: went to Ireland and, uh, 11 hour flight.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Playing for charity.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: You don't have to tell me the real answer, but
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: I watch a, sometimes I watch celebrity family feud, Steve Harvey.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: And, um, I see some of the celebrity families on there.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I'd love to do celebrity family.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: You should definitely do it.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I'm putting it out there. Listen, I would, we would
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: be good. I would have, you could.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Have like me on and just say, cause I noticed some, no.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: We should do a juicy scoop. Celebrity. We should, they
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: should do pod top podcast, right? Like against each other.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: So it should be like juicy scoop against like Jeff
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Lewis's group or, or, or like your mom's house or whatever.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: Cause then you get further down the panel, you know,
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: it's like, I was watching Dee Snider and his family.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: And it's his wife. And then it's his daughter. And
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: then as you get to the fifth person, it's Steve.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: Works at the place we like to eat. I bet
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: they do that.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Because I'm thinking you'd probably just want to put the
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: dumbest person at the end.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: So that you're so far ahead it doesn't matter. But
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: the producers probably decide who they want. to be number
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: two and here's number five.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, they certainly put the dumbest people at
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: the end of the Terry Bradshaw family and the Dee
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: Snider family because they didn't even know how the game worked.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: They were like, wait, what? Like, wait, it was a
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: family feud? And the one guy's like, no, like, I
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: don't even know what I'm doing.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Anyway, my point is, they were winning a considerable amount
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: of money to Dee Snider family won $ 25, 000. Yes, for charity.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: But I'm like, Dee Snider's doing fine, I'm sure. But
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: he's like, I'd like 25 grand.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, you definitely they give to charity. Yeah,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: but at least in the times that I've played. with, um,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: some other shows, they also make it worth your while,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: whether you win the money for the charity or not.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: So you get a little bit, no matter what for
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: yourself and your charity will get a little bit, even
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: if you don't win, but then you really have the
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: ability to like, really like make a lot of money
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: for the charity and be a star.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: Okay. Yeah.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: So that's how it works.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: I think in all those things.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Apprentice whatever those shows.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Were because i always see for charity and then i'm
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: like well some of these people are charity you know
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: in some cases like todd bridges playing for charity is
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: like i'm the charity.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: But like when you do all your paperwork you have
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: to give you can't switch the charity you have to
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: give the charity well in advance they do all like
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: the proper paperwork so because they're going to pay the
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: charity so it can't like because at one time when
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: we were when we were at uh name that tune
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: we were in the green room and someone's like what's
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: your charity and i go Oh, it's the Heather MacDonald Foundation.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: It's giving plastic surgery to middle-aged women that can't afford it.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: I said, do you imagine if some celebrity just had
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: their own foundation? They go, yeah, we've had that.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, sure.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, really? Okay. No, it wasn't the Heather MacDonald Foundation.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: It wasn't for Heathers either. It was a real... charity,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: which was my charity is, um, hillsides, which helps kids
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: that have never been, I mean, it does a lot
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: of things, but easiest way to explain it is like
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: if a kid's never been adopted out of foster care
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: and now they're a young adult, okay. Giving them the
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: tools to be successful adults without having a family.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's a good one. Dr.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Drew and Susan introduced me to it.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: So that was the same one that I did for
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: guys grocery. So, like, I feel good. Like, I feel
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: like I know about it. I feel like it's a
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: good thing.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: It's been around for, like, 100 years.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: It's not some, like, weird thing that's going to come
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: back to bite me in the ass. Yeah.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: Some priest is involved. Like, oh, no.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I know.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: We were coming up with it. We were like, okay,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: let's make sure there's no, like, shady business. Yeah, but
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Ireland is so fun. I mean, it's not so fun.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I was only there for a few days. I'm just saying,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: it's very clean. It's very nice. I was in Dublin.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I walked around. If I got lost, people were very helpful.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: You know, they were like, glorious, glorious. This is grand, brilliant.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: And I go, why are you guys filming here? And
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, is this the new Atlanta? What's happening? Why
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: are we in Ireland? Because when I first got asked
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: to do it, I thought I was doing like an
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Irish version of it. Right. And they said, no, like
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: during COVID they were in another country and then they
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: ended up here and it's just, they're so wonderful to
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: work with that. It's just worked out.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: The Irish.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: And the production company that they paired up with and everything.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: It's like.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: And those are your people. You're back to your home country.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: It's the mother land.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: So I hope I get to do more stuff. Cause
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: if I had a little more time. And if we
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: didn't have this plan for the summer, like if I'd
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: known three months ago, then maybe I would have brought
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: the boys and Peter and we would have like gone
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: to a couple other places. Because it is a far
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: way to go. I thought about bringing Drake as my
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: companion because he's always wanted to golf there. But I
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't willing. They weren't offering a companion ticket. and I
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: was not willing to, um, suffer with what a Dickie
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: would be if I put a six, four person that
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't travel a lot in coach for 11 hours.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: So I was like, it's all right. I just rather
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: go by myself.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: Okay, good. I, I, I flew with everybody. We had
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: a whole thing going to.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: New York and, Listen, I think five hours is a lot.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: So for me, 11 hours, I was getting a little
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: stressed getting ready to go because I was like, oh
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: my God, even though it's so nice and it's like
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: lay down and food and I always eat everything they
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: give me in first class. And I'm like, Heather, you're
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: not even fucking hungry. You don't need a cheese plate.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, but it's here. It's three hours.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: Because you do it because you're bored.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: You do it because you're bored.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: And you open every stupid little packet and they're like,
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: what are these? Olives. There's like four of them.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll eat every single one. Everything.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: The mint. Every thing in that box.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, I know. I utilize it. I brush my teeth.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I use a hand lotion.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not in first class. I'm back in coach, but
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: there's a new thing. American Airlines has something where it's
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: like all the seats are. Have you been on that plane?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: They're not first class, but they're bigger. All the seats
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: are bigger.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Well, that's nice.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is nice.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Because I feel like it's hard. If you're a big person.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know how people do it.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: And if you're a tall person. Yeah. You're kind of
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: fucked if you have to be in some tiny seat.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I see people walking past me. Walking past me because,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: you know. And, uh, and I'm like, there's no, that
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: guy is going to be miserable for five hours.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I wasn't at a good time. I ran into, uh,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Teddy Mellencamp, Real Housewives.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: How is she doing?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I heard she's doing great.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: Getting, um, some people were, she was on a red
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: carpet recently and had some cellulite and some people were
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: discussing it. And she said, that's who I am.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: So that's who I am. And my dress looks like
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. And you know what? I'll save
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: it when you hire me.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: And did she?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: I think she would want to do it. She likes
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: doing these shows. She's very competitive.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: Right. Oh, good.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Which I was like, all right, okay, get over yourself. No,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: she's very competitive. So she was really fun. And then
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Cynthia Bailey from Atlanta was there. So we all ate
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: and had fun.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: Where?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Here at a restaurant?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: No, doing the thing in Ireland.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, they were.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't know any. And then all of a sudden
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing from other people going, Ross is also there.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: Matthews?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my God, we couldn't just go to
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Hollywood Center Studios.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: I know, really. Everybody lives three blocks from each other.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Like really? Really, Gavin? You make it so hard we
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: can't just film the show here. It makes more sense
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: for us all to go to Ireland. But anyway, it
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: was fun. And then came back and I'm okay with
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: the jet lag and stuff. I've recovered.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: It's fine. Oh, that's exciting.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: So anyway, hopefully I'll let you know when that airs
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: and that was a good time. But I saw some
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: shitty movies on the plane.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: I watched some TV shows.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: I watched Marry Me.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, so did I. Through a seat. You know how people,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden you start watching something through somebody's seat?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: And then you start watching somebody else's?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: Somebody was watching Marry Me and all of a sudden
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: I'm not hearing it, no sound. I was kind of
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: into it.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is... That was with J-Lo and
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Owen Wilson, who then I looked it up and he
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: had to replace Armie Hammer because Armie Hammer was asking
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: to eat people's ribs.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: So can I just say... My worst casting choice ever,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: if it was Armie Hammer prior from him being a creep,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: like if he just got, I would have been probably
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: really kind of enjoying that movie because I think they
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: could have had like some good chemistry.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I love watching J-Lo. She's gorgeous. But Owen Wilson looks
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: like Ellen.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Okay. And he's got like this long blonde hair. And,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: you know, the nose has always been fucked up. And
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: because I'm no stranger to Botox and injections, the whole
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: time I just wanted to take a fucking needle and
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: fill in the divot in his nose and just like
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: make it. I asked a plastic surgeon that once. I go,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: it must be hard to just like go out in
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: the world and see people's faces that you know you
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: can like fix like that.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: I go, do you imagine? And he's like, all the time. Wow.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: All the time I just imagine like lifting this and
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: filling that. Anyway, he's like, he's like a math teacher. Yeah.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: It was just so bad. It could have been good.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: She must've been so bummed. Do you imagine like you
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: think you're doing me with Armie Hammer and then your agent,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: like that Betty Medina or whatever her Medina like is like, Hey, um,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, I'm ready to like, you know,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: get on with Armie Hammer. And yeah. Um, yeah, he's
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: been DMing girls asking to eat their ribs and, um,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: But great news.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: We got Owen Wilson.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: But when you say eat their ribs, not ribs that
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: they've cooked.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Not the Shannon Bedore ribs.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: Not like, I'm a great at barbecuing ribs. You should
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: have them. He's talking about actually their ribs.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was super involved in the Army Hammer thing.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: cannibalism stories and, and the DM and being like very
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: 50 shades of gray and all these girls. And I've
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: listened to interviews with the actual girls and the Gloria
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: all reds involved. And, you know, there's a documentary coming
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: out all about it that features his aunt who I
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: also interviewed. And, but it's like, and then he was,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: you know, he was doing weird stuff. He was in
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Joshua tree and he was like doing construction and building a,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: like redoing like an old motel out there.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: And now he's in the Cayman Islands where his ex-wife
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: and parents live and kids. And TMZ said, Armie Hammer
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: is selling timeshare. And then there was this flyer that said, regards, Armie,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: this is my extension. I'm your host. And the photo
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: is just him like smiling, looks like a passport photo.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: I was like, this can't be true. The flyer, I
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: said it couldn't be true. Then the TMZ said, I'm like,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: is that just a lookalike? So what have you read?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: I read the company that that flyer's from said this
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: is not real. Somebody just used a likeness or it's
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: a fake flyer.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: But then that was before I saw this picture where
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: he's standing behind like a desk seemingly. But I don't even...
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: That could be a lookalike too or, you know, some role.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, he's still got a couple of bucks.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: It's not like he needs to be taking a second job.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: They didn't take his money away. They took some roles away, but.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing though. The dad, his dad is also
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: a freak. And I remember in all my research and
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: all the DMs and everything I got that like people
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: had had conversations with the dad and he was kind
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: of a dick about Army's career.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: And, and, and, you know, he inherited too. It comes
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: from the grandpa or the great grandpa. So his own, no,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: it comes to the great grandpa. The real money comes
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: from his great grandma, grandpa. So his dad was like
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: a trust fund kid. Kind of. And he's, he's a
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: bad person too. And in my opinion, from everything I've read,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: don't come after me, whatever. So if he's in the
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Cayman Islands and he was known to do like construction,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I could see him doing construction versus
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: talking to people one-on-one. I don't believe the timeshare thing. Well,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: I think that's so weird that you would be like seeing,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: like trying to convince two 35 year olds for like,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: you know, for only $ 400 a month, you can guarantee
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: yourself a vacation.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: To a free breakfast or offering a free breakfast. They
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: never leave you alone.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, if someone was actually bought a condo from army,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: they would have already been on 12 podcasts.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: So I say, I think you're right. I think it's bullshit,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: but I think it was a fun story to have
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: over the holiday.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: And, um, And Owen Wilson's no prize either. But I'm
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: also going to.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: Say this, not to ruin yours, but I believe Owen
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: Wilson is a bigger star than Armie Hammer. Am I
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: wrong in saying that? I feel like the first choice
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: should have been Owen Wilson in that movie. I know
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: the chemistry's not right, but Owen Wilson's a bigger star
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: than Armie Hammer.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like Owen Wilson was really fun to watch
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: like 15, 20 years ago. Right. Because with the voice
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: and he's kind of that stoner guy. Now like being like,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: the 50 year old dad, at least in this role. Yeah.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: There was just nothing to it.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, the movie is like, he, he's a single dad.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: He's divorced and he teaches math and his daughter hates him.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, I saw the trailer. I know what it's about.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: He's got to go to the concert.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: He goes to the concert with, with Sarah Silverman. Who's,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: you know, who broke up with her girlfriend. Cause of
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: course we got to have, you know, got to have
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: a gay character.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: Sarah Silverman, which she shows up at things. I'm always like,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: Is she going to be the real Sarah Silverman or
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: is she going to be the Sarah Silverman who does
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: that voice?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: She kind of did the voice like, hey guys. Yeah,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: she was doing that. So they're best friends because everyone
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: hangs out with their best friend from the school that
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: they work with. And she goes, come to the concert
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: with me. He goes to the concert with his still
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: tie on because he teaches the math decathlon or whatever.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: And then her boyfriend, who's 20 years younger than her, fiancé,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: They find out he's been cheating with her assistant.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: Backup dancer.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: So she's like, marry me anyway. And then does a
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: whole PR thing. And he's like, I don't know how
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: to do that. And then one night they bone. And
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: still no chemistry.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: I feel like you really have a beef with Owen Wilson.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: Is it just the nose that's giving you an issue?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: Because he's had.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: In real life, he appears to be not a great father.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: He's been in some good movies.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: What? What?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, oh. Well, say it.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: Royal Tenenbaums, Bottle Rocket.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. A long time ago.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: There were a long time ago. The one with where he,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: behind enemy lines. I'll keep going. What else? Not at
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: the museum. Well, all right. That's not the best one.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: No, I tell you about not at the museum really
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: quick though. I was telling Shannon this the other day,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: I go, you know, there were all these things that like,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't, I tried to do as a parent, but
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: then I'd kind of like half ass it. And one
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: was a boy Scouts for Brandon and a, so they
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: were going to do night at the museum after that
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: movie came out, they go, we're actually going to go
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: to the natural museum of arts and sciences in downtown LA.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: And we get to sleep like under, under the dinosaur
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: bones or whatever. So I bring McKinsey, Brandon and Drake
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: bought the four tickets and we're driving down there. Peter's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: less like, no, like I, he's just like, I'm not going. Okay.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: But I'm always like, oh my God, I was just
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: on the road for two weeks. Let me be that mom, right?
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: So I go, you know what, you guys? Let's get
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: all the sleeping bags and stuff out right now. We'll
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: leave it in the car. And then when we're ready
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: to go to bed after we have the pizza and
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: look at the dinosaurs and you guys play your scavenger
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: hunt thing, then we'll get it and then we'll sleep here, okay?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh my God. So I can get
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: my kids in a way where I'm like, you know
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: what would be... would you guys just rather get ice
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: cream and then just go home and sleep in our
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: own beds? And they're like, okay. Thank God. I heard
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: from people. Oh, no. Imagine. Now, the moms didn't go. Yeah.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Because the dads are supposed to go. But Peter's like,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: fuck that, right?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: It is. They said, oh, my God, Heather. It was
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: the worst experience. It was 100, slightly overweight. middle-aged, snoring
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: dads in an echoey museum through the... Can you imagine?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Just like a symphony. There was no way to escape it. Literally,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: no one could sleep, including the kids. They said it
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: was the worst night of their life.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: Even the dinosaurs were like, what the fuck? Oh, my,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: that sounds... Awful. Were you like a scout leader?
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Never a scout leader. We were supposed to go camping
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: near Santa Barbara. And my other friend, she's a single mom,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: and her tent blew away. She set it all up.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: She didn't know you're supposed to put it down on
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: the things. And then we just laughed. We didn't stay
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: the night. I think my mom one time tried to
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: be the cub scout leader.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: And we did so. And she used my father's New
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: York Times to paper mache some shit. And that ended that.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: Where's that New York Times I was saving for the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: coupons or something? And we'd shredded it up to make
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: like a paper mache. Remember paper mache was all the rage.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: You had to paper mache everything.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm glad that, you know, that. That's over with.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: So marry me, thumbs up or thumbs down?
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Thumbs down. The only thing that's worse than that movie
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: is the Gucci movie.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: House of Gucci?
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: The worst.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: I got to tell you, I didn't hate it. That's
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: not the greatest movie I didn't hate.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Can you tell me what the juice was?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: Nothing.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: There was absolutely no juice.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: Two brothers. They got the other one involved. She liked
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: nice things. He cheated on her. Yeah. And then she
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: hired someone to have him killed. And we see none
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: of her defense. We see none of her trying to
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: make an excuse it wasn't her. They're like, the next
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: scene was she was sentenced. I'm like, what? I felt
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: it's a good movie to fall asleep. Listen, if you're
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: on a long flight, go watch it. You might fall asleep.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: It was so bad.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: I watched Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon, that one.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Where it's about an apple.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: I like that. It was real good. Did you watch it? No.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: It's good.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: No, I know I would like it.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: It's basically the Matt Lauer story, more or less.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like we have Apple, but I don't know
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: my passcode, so I don't know how to watch it.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: Well, I watch it on a plane. And then the
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: one about the WeWork guy, but the scripted one with
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: Anne Hathaway.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Yes. Did you like that?
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: Yes. That's good, too. Jared Leto, also very good.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Okay. I watched one episode, and then I never went.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: Back to it. I watched two episodes, and I'm into it.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Well, Johnny Depp has a not-so-hidden message to Amber, according
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: to TMZ. He has new songs with Jeff Beck. And
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: some of the lines in the songs are, I think
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: you've said enough for one motherfucking night. I think he's
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: talking about her. And let's see. One of the tracks
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: is penned, so is penned, sad motherfucking parade. And then
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: one line sings, you're sitting there like a dog with
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: a seven-year-old.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, wait.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: I think I missed the quote here. Anyway, he's just
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: talking about dogs and turds and stuff.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: This would be the worst thing Amber Heard has done
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: if she makes us listen to Johnny Depp songs. Like,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: nobody wants to really listen to Johnny Depp music.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Well, he's going on tour.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been on tour. Hollywood Vampires with him and
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: Alice Cooper and Errol's Joe Perry. They've been on tour forever.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Well, the latest on that is she's trying to say
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: one juror. They're trying to throw out the case. She's
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: fighting against it. We don't know if she's going to
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: have to pay. whatever.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: I stopped at the TJ Maxx that she was spotted at.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: Which one was that?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: It's in Bridgehampton, Long Island.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: And?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: I stopped there.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Did they have good stuff?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: They got, you know.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: What did you get?
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: Well, you stopped there on the way, like, for a
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: sweatshirt or something on the way out.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: Maybe a bit cooler than I thought it would be.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. In the evening.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: So it's like your last stop before you get into.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: Like, Dior. Well, you were recently in the Berkshires.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: Yes, I was.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: And, you know, there's, right now, there's, um, On Peacock,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: it's the real housewife's ultimate girls trip, and it's all
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: former ex-housewives that are no longer on the show. They've
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: all been let go, and they all go to Dorinda's
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: place in the Berkshires.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: And she's a real nightmare.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: She is?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: She is.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: Dorinda.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's one of those... ever stay at someone's house
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: where you're so happy to be there, you're so honored
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: to be a guest, but then there's so many rules
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: that you're like, I just want to go.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: That's why I won't do it. It's shocking to me
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: that you still do it sometimes, but I can't have
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: somebody like, all I need is getting up in the
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: middle of the night to go to the bathroom, and
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: I don't. I just can't.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: What are you doing?
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: I don't need to ask for an apple. If I
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: want an apple, I'll get a hotel, and I'll eat
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: an apple if I want to.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: I know. I think it... Well, in this case, it
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: was really hard because she said, here's some rules. Here's
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: some rules. That's the way she talks. And she's drunk
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: from all day. This is Dorinda. And she goes, and
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: she was like, you know, so proud about what a
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: great hostess she is. So she gives everybody a gift
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: box on their bed with like monogrammed pajamas, a copy
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: of her book, Make It Nice, which by the way,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: that has no juice in it either. And like maybe
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: a coffee mug. And then these four cupcakes with their
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: faces on it. So then the girls, even though there's
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: a sign that says you're not supposed to eat in
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: the room, a couple of them, after drinking all day,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: go over to the cupcakes at nap times. And she's
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: like to Tamara, she goes, you know what, girls? I
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: don't know where you grew up. I don't know, but
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: this is a beautiful house. It was built in 1902.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe you don't have the class to realize that there's rules.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: If you eat upstairs, there's not going to be a problem.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: And Tamara's like, okay, I'm sorry. We didn't know. But
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: the butler also brought us frozen yogurt. And she's like,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what the butler did. I told you
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: what the rules were, girls. I told you what to do.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: And you still proceeded to break, because I don't know
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: where you were raised. I don't know if we were
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: in a trailer park. I mean, it was, so it's
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: pretty juicy. And then Vicki is like, you know, she
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: lives in the OC. So she's like, you know what?
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of old. I thought it
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: was kind of, it's not my, and Dorinda's like, you
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: know what? You like to get your body dirty. You
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: like to date old guys that lie about cancer that
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: leave you for young girls. You like to stand on
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: a table and dance in a port of art. Yay!
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: You don't know what class is. Meanwhile, she gets so drunk. Anyway,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: I thought about you.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: The one woman said the Berkshires are old.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Vicky said it feels the house is old. She said
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: it's a nice house.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: It's not my vibe. I stayed at a hotel that
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: was very old.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: You stayed at the Red Lion Inn.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: The Red Lion Inn.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: That is where Dorinda got her first job and they
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: go there for dinner. Was it good?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's literally from 1914, and they haven't
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: changed a thing. I stayed in a room that looked
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: like it was 1940. I think people lived there. There's
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: like old people walking up and down the hallways with
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: walkers and stuff. I think they lived there.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: So it isn't a fun vibe.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: No, not at all. It is like a sad.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: So Vicky is right.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: Yes, Vicky is 100% right. When you were first mentioning it,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: I'm like, is anybody going to mention that the Berkshires
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: is a fucking old, weird town? I'm sure there's a
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: nice area. I went in it.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Well, because the other girls got to go to Turks
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: and Caicos. So these girls were a little bit bummed
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: to spend eight days under the reign of Dorinda.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: And she's pretty mean. And so isn't there also like
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: a franchise of restaurants called the Red Lion Inn? No. Well,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: the Red Lion?
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: There's a Red Lion, I think.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: What is a Red Lion? It's like a burger joint, right?
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: I think so.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: Can you look up the Red Lion restaurants in California?
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: There's a Red Lion Pub down by Dodger Stadium. I
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: think you might be thinking of that.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: Uh, anyway, uh, yeah, not great.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: Anyway, it's, it's a juicy show. Red line tavern.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: Okay. That's the one down by Dodger stadium. Good.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, listen, have you heard about what's going on with
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: Brad Pitt?
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: Uh, no, that he's wearing bucket hats.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: No. Can you tell me what is the, the disease
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: that Brad Pitt has. Can you look it up?
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: What's it called? People's faces, but he doesn't remember that.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: I remember them.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: He says he has any people laugh at him, but
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: he says it's a real disease. Forget the name of it,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: but yeah, he'll. So I basically, it's him basically saying, that's.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Why I'm kind of rude.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: I might be. And he said, a lot of people
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: think I'm a prick. And he also said, I want
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: to face blindness. And he also wants to find somebody
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: that also has the face blindness thing. Like to date,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: I guess. So then I guess that's like a 51st
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: date situation. Nobody remembers each other. I don't know. But
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: I would think that would be the last person you'd
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: want to be with because you kind of need someone
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: to be with you.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: To be like, Brad, that is my sister-in-law. Oh, okay. Right, right, right.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: You don't need another person that doesn't remember faces.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: I think I'm pretty good at face. I have name blindness.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: I'm not good at... I don't remember names as well.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: But I think I'm good at faces.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: I'm... enjoying this era that we're in of late in
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: life uh diagnoses to get you out of shit yeah
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: oh there's i i late in life diagnosed peter about
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: four years ago and it's really helped our marriage what
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: does he have um i think he's just on the
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: spectrum in general i'm not qualified to clinically say what
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: part of the spectrum it is but i think it's
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: the spectrum.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah a lot of people uh have late in life
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: discovered the spectrum because we didn't have it when i.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Was young but then the any but If you can
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: diagnose your spouse as that, then you can say, oh, well,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: that's why he can be insensitive.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: Or that's why he doesn't think to do something considerate. Yeah,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: that's why he doesn't, you know, want to talk long
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: to me. Or that's why he says weird, inappropriate things
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: to other people.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: And sometimes I'll get drunk at a party because it
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: makes him more social because he's on the spectrum.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: And then you're like, now.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: Everybody has all the answers.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, so then you have all the excuses. Just like
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: if it was your child, you would love them just
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: the same, right? Right. But when you late in life
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: diagnosed your partner, then you're like, all right, let's just
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: stay married forever because I can't leave you now. Yeah.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Now that I know that you're a little.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: I feel it started with Restless Leg Syndrome. That became
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: a big deal.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Is that just a shaking leg?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: As far as I know. I mean, I see commercials
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: for it where they're like, we got Restless Leg Syndrome.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: I know it's probably more serious than that, but to
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: me it sounds like.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: There's a reality star on Southern Charm, Shep, and I
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: interviewed him, and he's always doing the shaking leg, and
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: people think, what's he on? And I'm like, well, I
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: saw him in the middle of the day, and he
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: was doing it. But in every interview, he just has it. Now,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's Restless... leg syndrome or you're
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: nervous or it's just a comforting thing for you to
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: do with your body while you're just sitting there. I
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Um, yeah, I have noticed that a lot too. Well, I, I,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: I tried to tell the world that I remember being
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: diagnosed with a phonics problem and that's why I fuck
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: up so many names and everybody just came back and
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: was like, shut up, try harder. You dumb bitch.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Those are different times. Yeah. Now you'd be a hero.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: They're writing Annie. Why did you fix her? Tell her
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: she said the word wrong. I'm like, fuck, I'm sorry.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: You know what? Now that you're out, this is like
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: your summer to be out. You're going to restaurants and stuff.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: What are you noticing out on the social scene? I
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: was out for the last nine days in Montauk, out
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: every night at restaurants and restaurants. Yeah. And what are
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: you noticing? Are you noticing older people, younger people?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: What are you noticing? It sounds like you've got something
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: to say, and then let me piggyback off of that.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: Well, I noticed a lot of FaceTiming. Everybody is FaceTiming
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: for long amounts of time, which I was getting real
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: annoyed by in Montana.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: I hate when someone FaceTimes me.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: You know why? Because I don't have the arm strength.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: I don't like to go like that. And these people
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: are on....
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: So they're just both going about their lives. But yet
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: the phone's on the table.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: How old are the people FaceTiming all the time? Are
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: they like 30? Young. Younger than 30? Yeah. Annie, are
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: you a big FaceTimer with your friends?
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: Huge. See? Oh. So now wait a minute. If you're
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: going throughout your daily routines, you just put the phone
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: on the table and you're both doing your thing. Yeah.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: So why not just put on speakerphone?
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: This is what people were doing.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I said to Drake, he's going to have
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: a new roommate. Okay. He was like on a waiting
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: list to get into this like place, apartments where all people,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: all the college kids live there from the college. But
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: you do have your own bedroom. Yeah.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Which is nice. But he's joining three other guys. And
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: he said he found one guy and he DM'd him.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, well, not everyone checks DMs. And I go,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: why don't you just call him? And he was like, what?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: And I go, just call. And he goes, what do
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: you mean, call? What would I say? And I go, listen,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: I know it's a pretty aggressive form of communication these days.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: But FaceTime.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: But wouldn't FaceTime be more aggressive?
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: That's what I think. Isn't FaceTime more aggressive than just
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: a call?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: It's just awkward because.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: You can see their face whenever you're on the phone.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: But what if you're Brad Pitt and you don't recognize them?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: That's why I brought it up because it reminded me
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: of it. But I was just shocked at how many
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: people were FaceTiming for long amounts of time. Like, it
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: was driving me a bit insane.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Okay.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's just a younger person. And talk texting. Everybody's
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: talk texting. And I was sitting next to one guy
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: who was trying to talk text emissions. Emissions. That's the
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: word he was trying. And obviously, the phone didn't understand emissions.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: And he was kind of an effeminate guy. And he goes,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: not omissions, emissions. Emissions. He just got fed up and
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: he goes, play Lady Gaga bun this way. And then
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: just his phone just starts blasting. Buns in the middle
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: of a restaurant. Like what? I don't know.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't really, really gone out, gone out.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Like I looked around, you know, we've talked about this before.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: Being here, I'm, you know, there's still a lot of
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: the heavy lashes, which I'm really trying to get people
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: to get away from.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: I think what we talked about. I think, do you think,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: I think we did take, take a chunk out of the,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: the industry.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: I think I know. And I don't want to, I
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: don't want to hurt people that are doing lash extensions.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: I just don't want them so thick and ugly. Um,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: just a lot of crop tops. I don't know.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: A lot of crop tops. And I mean, I think
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: I need to go out a little bit more. I
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: think I've just been, it was like such a whirlwind
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: since I've been here. Like with like set plans, I
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: need to like walk around a little and like go,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: I had not gone out to like, quiet woman or
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: like a nightclub situation since I've been here.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: But I guess Brandon had a rant the other day
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: when I wasn't here where he, he was like, what
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: every night you just, what every night you just go
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: to a Jeff Lewis party. And I'm like, Jeff doesn't
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: even live here. I go, I'm not going. And he goes,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: where are you going tonight? I said, Oh, tonight I'm
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: going out to dinner. So I have to go out
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: to dinner with them a little bit more. Yeah. But
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: we do, we do fun things. We've gone to the beach,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: boogie boarded. We've like, you know, gone out to breakfast.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: It's fun.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: It's nice. Chris, what's going on? Do you have shows
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: anyone wants to go see?
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: Coming up in July, I got some Boston. Coming back
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: to Laugh Boston. That's going to be exciting.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: That is going to be exciting.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: A lot of people talking about it. Then I'm coming
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: to Long Island, Brokerage Comedy Club, my hometown of Long Island.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: Coming back the 28th of July, Brokerage Comedy Club. And
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: then Laugh Boston the 29th and 30th. Comedy Off-Broadway, Lexington,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: Kentucky in August 11th, 12th, and 13th.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: And then so many more coming up.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'd also like to announce right now, I have
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: a show in New York that I'm doing October 15th.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: Go to heathermcdonald.net.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: Where in New York?
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: The Palladium.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: The Palladium?
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: Yes. Just announced it.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: I used to go there as a kid, like it
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: was a club.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Well, it's a place I'm doing a show. Saturday, October 15th.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Get your tickets now. And then I'm going to have
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: a couple more dates that I'm probably going to announce
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: on Thursday's show. Wow.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: That's exciting.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: All right. You want to get a cute lunch by
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: the sea?
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: Let's get a cute... Oh, by the sea.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Well, sure. Why not?
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: It just keeps getting better.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not... I'm going to... Wait.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: Are the boys coming?
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Yeah.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: Because there's been a lot going on here. I got
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: to tell you, everybody, this experiment that I am now
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: a part of, because I don't know if anybody else
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: would put up with what we've been putting up with.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I do because they're my kids.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: I know. You have to. But we've had to cut
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: a few times. They've been beating the shit out of
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: each other. They're screaming.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, yeah, they're bored because there's
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: nothing to do here.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: You can't paddleboard. You can't go on a scooter. You
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: can't go boogie board. You can't ride your bike.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: So what else would they do but like touch each other?
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: They just beat each other up. And Adam's had to
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: stop and scream at them about 10 times. It's amazing.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: Podcasters, just like us.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: They're just like us.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: They're just like us.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Bye. Hey, you guys, hold on.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: You got to stop talking.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: We're recording. Drake, I'm recording right now. Can you stop
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: wrestling with him? Shut the door. Go on the scooters.
• 1:28:28
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