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80. Double Sadako?! (Sadako-san and Sadako-chan) · The Book-Watchers

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  Speaker 1: Lean on it.
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  Speaker 2: Us.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to book watchers, where.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna watch he beat Jacob's ass, or you get.
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  Speaker 1: To watch the sun gleam off of Devin's forehead.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, where's the forehead begin to head end and the
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  Speaker 2: head start?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, but it grows bigger the
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  Speaker 1: further back your hairline goes. You. Hey, you know you
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  Speaker 1: look better? Ball?
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  Speaker 2: How dare you? Why are you gonna goo there? I'll
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  Speaker 2: remember that when you're losing your hair. I am gonna
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  Speaker 2: punch you in the face tomorrow. You wait, you wait,
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  Speaker 2: you wait, you wait. I'm gonna punch you in either
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  Speaker 2: the cheek or the nose or a something something. You wait,
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  Speaker 2: you wait, you wait. Okay, I got you, Okay, on site,
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  Speaker 2: on site.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just worrying now. Shelley's a scrapper, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: You know what? So am I just kick her like
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  Speaker 2: I kickball. I would never do that. I would never
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  Speaker 2: do that. The poor baby girl. Yeah, I would never do.
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  Speaker 1: My old girl. Not my old girl. She's already dealt
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  Speaker 1: with a lot. I tried cutting her nails yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: she hates it when I try cutting her nails, like,
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  Speaker 1: she fights me. She fights me. And unfortunately I cut
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  Speaker 1: a little too close to the nail bed, so she's
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  Speaker 1: extra mad at me. Like she actually started she started bleeding,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, Shelly, this is why I
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  Speaker 1: hate cutting your nails, and this is why you hate
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  Speaker 1: it when I cut your nails, because you bite. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like it chop, oh great, matlope what she did?
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  Speaker 1: Like she's she's kicking her every time, Like I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to like like clip the nail, She's kicking her feet,
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  Speaker 1: so I have to like hold her down. And when
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  Speaker 1: I get her to the finally like just chill for
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  Speaker 1: a bit, I go in and like like clip the nail,
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  Speaker 1: but like she jerked right when I was clipping it
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  Speaker 1: and I chopped it a little too close, and she
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  Speaker 1: started her nail started bleeding, and I was like, fucking
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  Speaker 1: hate I fucking hate my life because I feel bad.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, my baby, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: That's why. That's why it's a two person job.
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  Speaker 1: I guess so, but I've tried, like getting my mom
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  Speaker 1: to help me, and no, she Shelley just hates it
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  Speaker 1: when we cut her nails. Like the only thing that
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  Speaker 1: seems to like not that I'm able to get her
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  Speaker 1: to like like let me do is like use the
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  Speaker 1: I have like a drummle like a sander, and like
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  Speaker 1: when I use that on her, she's caught like like
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  Speaker 1: she'll kick a bit while I get it on her
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  Speaker 1: nail and start like grinding the nail down, Like she'll
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  Speaker 1: calm down a bit and it won't bother her. But
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  Speaker 1: it's like she sees the nail clippers and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Like nope, She's like, Shelley, you're ten years old. You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna start getting joint pain and I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: want you to like be walking on these long ass
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  Speaker 1: like you're gonna hurt yourself and then I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: the one that goes to jail because like, oh, you're
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  Speaker 1: not taking care of your dog. I'm like, bitch, fuck
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  Speaker 1: you take care of my dog.
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  Speaker 2: But you can't take care of your dog when you
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  Speaker 2: are a dog bitch.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, Whenever you're ready, I think we've how dare you go?
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  Speaker 1: How dare I?
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  Speaker 2: Hi? Welcome to the book Watchers, where I'm plotting Jacob's
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  Speaker 2: demise writ in real time. Real time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he does that a lot, need too, he never really.
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  Speaker 2: I have my way. I have my sources, that my techniques.
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  Speaker 2: I'm skilled, have a particular set of skills. I'll help
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  Speaker 2: me in this type of situation. I got you.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, oh that's right.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't sensitive. That was that was.
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  Speaker 1: The entire time. The entire time you were saying I
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  Speaker 1: have a particular set of skills, I was just thinking, huh,
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  Speaker 1: what about that time with your elbow? And that was
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  Speaker 1: just from you walking to just throw out the trash.
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  Speaker 2: And now that went to go get the ring books.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Amazon you gave me. You gave me that
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  Speaker 1: ring book. I have it right here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna say nothing at this point,
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  Speaker 1: like it's it's buried under like several books. But of Godzilla, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think like I think Godzilla has become my spirit totem,
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  Speaker 1: my guardian for those of you listening, and he's keeping scato.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, he's.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen and others. If you're wondering, what the
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  Speaker 2: hell are you talking about? I can see from about
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  Speaker 2: the show I fucked up my elbow. Yeah, you can
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  Speaker 2: see the scar.
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  Speaker 1: And it was from him picking up this He went
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  Speaker 1: to go pick up this book. He just got it delivered.
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  Speaker 1: He went to go pick it up. In my defense,
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  Speaker 1: it was this exact book.
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  Speaker 2: It was, it was all. It was the whole series,
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  Speaker 2: it was all four. To be too, beef, it's the
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  Speaker 2: first one. This is like, uh huh, to be fair.
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  Speaker 2: The Amazon delivery driver delivered it to the wrong fucking house.
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  Speaker 2: So I had to walk to the other side of
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  Speaker 2: the building I lived in to get it. And when
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  Speaker 2: I was walking back, I didn't see there was a
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  Speaker 2: hole in the hole in the dirt because I crossed
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  Speaker 2: the grass. My foot went in, I went out. I
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  Speaker 2: stretched out my army rack, so I shattered it. Take out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had to pull out several pieces of his
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  Speaker 1: of his elbow bones. So he doesn't have an elbow.
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  Speaker 1: He does not have an elbow.
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  Speaker 2: I do too. It's this very idy bitty.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so you see you see this right here. Most
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  Speaker 1: people have this like on both arms. That's your l
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  Speaker 1: that's like I don't know what that what that bone
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  Speaker 1: is called. But he doesn't have that anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Now, don't be spreading misinformation.
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  Speaker 1: And it's and it's because of this book and the
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  Speaker 1: other four and the other three books. But now he
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  Speaker 1: gave me this, He gave me this book to read. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: I did, okay, and you bet you're ass he was
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  Speaker 1: hoping to pass on that curse.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, in theory, you could stay with with the year,
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  Speaker 2: with the last year, year and a half of you've had,
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  Speaker 2: you could say the curse did move in a weird way. Unfortunately.
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  Speaker 1: See but you see, like I'm a huge I have
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  Speaker 1: the power of god and Godzilla on my side because
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  Speaker 1: I look like my room like Godzilla Godzilla figures like
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  Speaker 1: that's that's not all the Godzilla figures, Like there's tiny
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  Speaker 1: figures here right in from my TV, but on my
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  Speaker 1: on my bed because my bed is like I have
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  Speaker 1: a special headboard shelf. It's a whole collection of Godzilla's.
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  Speaker 1: So they're basically all they're all staring down Sadako, Like
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  Speaker 1: they're just staring her down, like.
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  Speaker 2: Do it, do it? Do it?
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  Speaker 1: They're staring that bitch down. But anyway, this, like Devin said,
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  Speaker 1: this camera, can I know, Devin, you gotta get your
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  Speaker 1: bitch in line, man, just like slap her around a
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  Speaker 1: few times. There he goes, mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 2: It's coming back. It's coming back. There we go, beautiful stunning. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: where was I going with this. Oh. If you look
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  Speaker 2: into the description boo, you will see a link to
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  Speaker 2: the link tree that will take to the other podcast
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  Speaker 2: of the productions, as well as the YouTube channel and such.
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  Speaker 2: So all that would be their description below. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all of us on YouTube. Great comment like give us
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  Speaker 2: my interaction. We want more listenership.
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  Speaker 1: Tickle that little notification, Bell, I would.
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  Speaker 2: Like that you would like that when you freaking weirdo.
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  Speaker 1: As much as you would.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lie, That's a lie. Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, I hate you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I don't, but I'm gonna say I hate you.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Pain in my ass, Yes, you're, Yes, you're you're.
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  Speaker 1: I can feel your anger mm hmm. Fuels me.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta sleep at some point, mm hmm. Your cousin
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  Speaker 2: will let me in. It's fine. So today we are
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  Speaker 2: going to or I'm going to talk about well, first
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  Speaker 2: and foremost, somebody finally finished all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yes I did. So after today's episode we will be
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  Speaker 1: returning to the Wheel of Time series. We're gonna so
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: it's gonna wait until the end of the episode to
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  Speaker 1: talk about it a bit more, but I guess we'll
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  Speaker 1: just go ahead and talk about it, right now, so
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  Speaker 1: there are right now, so like ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: So we only got five books left in the Wheel
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  Speaker 1: of Time series. Oh my god, only five? Yes, and
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  Speaker 1: surprisingly not a lot happens in the individual books. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a lot does happen, but not really, it's not until
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  Speaker 1: a book. It's not until book fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, where a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of shit comes together. It is woo. I let
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  Speaker 1: me tell you something that there was just so much
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  Speaker 1: the stakes were high in book fourteen. There was so
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  Speaker 1: much build up, There was so much happening, like there
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  Speaker 1: was like a good like a good chunk of the book.
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  Speaker 1: The the forces of the Light were losing. Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: it was so it was intense. There were moments where
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  Speaker 1: they thought they were winning, but then the Dark throw
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  Speaker 1: something else at them and just like, oh shit, we're fucked.
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  Speaker 1: But in the end they of course, like with any
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  Speaker 1: story about fight, if good and evil, good wins, and
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  Speaker 1: there some of the some of the characters that we've
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  Speaker 1: grown to love throughout the series will not make it
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  Speaker 1: to the end. I've already told Devin a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about who.
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  Speaker 2: Died, and yeah, how dare you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm pretty I'm fairly convinced that George R. R.
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  Speaker 1: Martin got so some inspiration for his books from the
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  Speaker 1: Wheel of Time, especially when it comes to like in
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  Speaker 1: the Wheel of Time, there's Kyrine has the Game of Houses,
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  Speaker 1: and then of course there's the Game of Thrones. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm fairly certain he got his inspiration from the Wheel
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  Speaker 1: of Time, and towards and towards the end there it
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  Speaker 1: was pretty much the Wheel of Time was turning into
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  Speaker 1: a bit of the Game of Thrones because all because
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  Speaker 1: all these characters that he became invested in are starting
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  Speaker 1: to die, like both good and bad. And while many
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  Speaker 1: of them and while I will say this, many of
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  Speaker 1: many of our care like the good guys do make
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  Speaker 1: it out alive, a lot of people die. It is
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  Speaker 1: it is the it's called the Final Battle for for
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  Speaker 1: a reason. Yeah, And it was a it was a
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  Speaker 1: long and emotional ride, but in the end it was
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  Speaker 1: worth it. I will I have to say Book twelve, thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: and fourteen those were the books that were written by
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Sanderson because Book eleven was the last book that
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  Speaker 1: Robert Jordan had wrote before he had passed away. Luckily,
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  Speaker 1: he had already pretty much finished up his story. He
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  Speaker 1: had tons of notes and Brandon Sanderson was able to
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  Speaker 1: come in and write the last three books and close
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  Speaker 1: out the story. Though I'm not going to lie, there
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  Speaker 1: was some things that he wrote about that you could
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  Speaker 1: tell like, yeah, this was clearly written. This was clearly
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  Speaker 1: an idea or something that a fast of the story
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  Speaker 1: that Robert Jordan would have explored. But since he's no
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  Speaker 1: longer among us, Brandon Sanderson included that in the story,
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  Speaker 1: and it's pretty clear that it would have been explored,
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  Speaker 1: but he didn't because his job was just to close
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  Speaker 1: out the story, to give the readers the ending that
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  Speaker 1: the readers and the Wheel of Time itself the ending
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  Speaker 1: it deserved, and he did, and he did a very
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  Speaker 1: He did a fantastic job. He did like he wrote,
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  Speaker 1: He was very faithful to the source material, and he
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  Speaker 1: maintained the characters' personalities and towards the end though you
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  Speaker 1: could tell that he was filling in a lot of there.
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  Speaker 1: He filled in the blanks a lot, and well, he
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  Speaker 1: had to work with what he was given, but he
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  Speaker 1: did a good job. I personally, I'm relieved that I
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  Speaker 1: finished this series. It was such a good series, but
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  Speaker 1: it was long, but I know there are many avid
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: readers out there who have probably written, like who's probably
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: read like a lot of the war Hammer books or
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: other series that have like dozens of books in just
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  Speaker 1: one series alone. Kudos to you. But The Wheel of
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  Speaker 1: Time is the first book series that I've ever read
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  Speaker 1: where it had fourteen continuous novels. Like it wasn't like
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  Speaker 1: fourteen novels all part one world but broken down into
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  Speaker 1: different like storylines. No, this was one singular storyline, all right,
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  Speaker 1: it was Yeah, it was just all one story. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh, the Wheel of Time and then you
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  Speaker 1: have the like this series, this series and this series.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: No, it was all one series. And I started reading
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  Speaker 1: this at the time before recording this episode. It's August
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  Speaker 1: right now, like early August right now, and sorry. And
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  Speaker 1: I started reading this nine months ago, like in late November.
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  Speaker 1: I had just finished watching The Wheel. The Wheel of
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  Speaker 1: Time show on Amazon. Season two had just come out
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  Speaker 1: around that time, and it reminded me like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about reading this series because I realized
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: that this is this show is giving off like this
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: is giving this is giving like a book series vibe.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm pretty sure it was. It was based off
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  Speaker 1: a book. So I I did research, found Robert Jordan's work,
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  Speaker 1: realized that it was fourteen books long, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: do I want to because this is gonna this series
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  Speaker 1: will take up a huge chunk of my life, Like
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  Speaker 1: it'll take up like a good chunk of my life,
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  Speaker 1: or at least for the yeah, for the for the
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  Speaker 1: foreseeable future. And it did because now here we are
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  Speaker 1: almost a year later and I just finished the series.
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  Speaker 1: And for those of you are wondering, like God, like
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: why didn't you finish it sooner? Because like, I like
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: to take my time when I read my books, thank
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  Speaker 1: you very much. I like to enjoy it. And sometimes
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: though like I and a lot of times it's not
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  Speaker 1: I'm not that kind of reader that immediately pulls out
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  Speaker 1: a book and starts reading whenever I have downtime, Like
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  Speaker 1: I'll read for a bit, do other things, all right,
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  Speaker 1: explore other things, come back to reading. That's just I'm
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  Speaker 1: just that I'm a chaotic reader. I'll read for a bit,
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  Speaker 1: step away, come back read hell I want I went.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll take like a whole week off, just a break,
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  Speaker 1: just as a break, like all right, I need a
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  Speaker 1: break from reading and I'll just not read for a
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  Speaker 1: whole week. Yeah, So that's how that's how my reading
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  Speaker 1: journey goes. And then and that's why here we are,
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  Speaker 1: almost a year later, finally finished reading fourteen, the fourteen
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  Speaker 1: book series that was The Wheel of Time. And next
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  Speaker 1: week and for the next few episodes, we will be
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  Speaker 1: reviewing the last five books. So the way I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to do it is starting with book ten, We're going
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  Speaker 1: to review two books at a time, So book ten
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  Speaker 1: and eleven will be reviewing together. And then because like
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  Speaker 1: really like, yeah, there's a lot that goes on in
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  Speaker 1: the story, but surprisingly it's not. It's kind of like
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  Speaker 1: a Robert Jordan by this point had gotten so that
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  Speaker 1: like decided to like like he he had gotten into
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  Speaker 1: the habit of breaking up the stories into multiple books,
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  Speaker 1: so he puts less in each book. That way he
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  Speaker 1: can keep the series going. But unfortunately he passed away
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  Speaker 1: before he can finish. And then Robert and then Brandon
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  Speaker 1: Sanderson concluded with the last three books. So book ten
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  Speaker 1: and eleven will be our next we'll be on our
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  Speaker 1: next episode. Book twelve and thirteen will be in this
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  Speaker 1: episode after that, and then book fourteen, A Memory of
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  Speaker 1: Light will be its own stand It will be its
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  Speaker 1: own episode, and it deserves its own episode because it
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: it's the final battle.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: This is it the conclusion to the story, and honestly
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  Speaker 1: it makes me wish, like god, I wish there was
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  Speaker 1: more like a like a sequel to this story, but unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: where may never see that because the original author is
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  Speaker 1: no longer among us and doesn't look like Brandon Sanderson
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  Speaker 1: will come back and review and revisit this storyline. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: mainly because he does not own the rights to it.
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  Speaker 1: So who knows. With the success of The Wheel of
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  Speaker 1: Time Amazon show, they may see they may see about
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  Speaker 1: getting Brandon Sanderson to like revisit the story because at
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  Speaker 1: this point, like the Wheel of Time is cyclical, It's
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  Speaker 1: history is it's cyclical, so he can easily explore, you
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  Speaker 1: can they can easily explore more of the story and
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: do their own take on it. I mean, that's what
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  Speaker 1: they did with the show. And like it's still it's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: technically can into the original story. It's just that it's
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  Speaker 1: a different it's the same story, but it's slightly different. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which you got a hand to them. It's like, Okay,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: there's that artistic license working for you. So but anyway,
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  Speaker 1: we will not we are not going to be talking
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  Speaker 1: about those books this episode. I still need to compile
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  Speaker 1: my notes for that, and my notes are extensive. Oh shit,
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  Speaker 1: work like already I already, like this is just these
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: are just the notes that I've taken. Like there's only
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  Speaker 1: like four pages so far, like two pages front and back.
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  Speaker 1: But this is that's just what ten yeah, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even finished with them. I still got to
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  Speaker 1: write out notes for like the the the final the
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  Speaker 1: part the like the final part of that of that book,
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  Speaker 1: and then get get started on book eleven, twelve thirteen fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that'd be for the next three week yeah,
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  Speaker 2: three weeks after after this episode. But today's episode, I
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: am going to be talking about something that is connected
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: to the thing I talked about last week. So last week,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: of course, I did Sadako at the End of the World,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: and that is a manga spin off of the Ring
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: franchise or Ringu, which you know, as Jacob showed earlier
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: in the episode, the reason why I broke my elbow. Well,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: we talked about those books someday, most definitely rust I'm
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: gonna go over the whole manga. I'm gonna go over
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the books. We're gonna go over the TV movie, We're
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: gonna go over the films, the American and Japanese. Like
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: we got the I got the whole works paper. We're
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: gonna do a whole It's gonna be a whole fucking
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: two months process of all that. It's gonna be great.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: But that's for a future future episodes. But I decided
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: to kind of my dip our foot into the ring world.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: And of course last week was one one one shot
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: split off manga, and this one this week is another one. Now,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: this one's not as depressing at face value, but if
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: you look, if you're reading between the lines, pressing as fuck,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: it's kind of pressing as fuck, yeah, if you're reading
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: between the last. So this one's called Sodco Son And
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: so with this one, it takes place and seems to
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: be modern day times because you mentioned the internet YouTube
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: of flat screen TV, cell phones, Internet, and this one,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Sodaco comes out of a TV and a house what
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: seems to be like an empty house as she goes
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: into this closet and finds a young girl. Now, this
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: young girl, the way she never gets here, like how
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: old she is exactly, but you can't assume she's like
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: maybe four or five. She's like ity bitty, a little
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: child toddler, so I would say around four or five.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: And Sodaca come walks into the closet, and of course
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: this girl introduces herself. She's like, oh hi, it's like
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: it's Sodaco because she knows who she is, obviously, because
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Sonako finds out of course, in this monga, Sodaka can
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: talk to people telepathically, so you get like these thought
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: bubbles and stuff from from Sodako herself as she talks
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: directly to whoever she's facing. So she finds out that
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: this little girl watched her cursed videotape from inside the closet,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: and this is not some gay joke now her so
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: she knows who Soldako is. For the mere factor, her
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: mother thinks she is this liow girl is the reincarnation
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: of Sodako. So she lives in this closet that is
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: jam packed with talisman's all over the walls while ceiling
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: inside the door. It's full coverage, and her mom locks
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: her in the closet or a good chunk of the day,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: and then when she leaves she'll actually like unlock it,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: and she can. She's not supposed to leave the closet,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: but she can if she she so chooses. So, and
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: this is where the depressing part kind of comes in,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: because the mom basically seals away her daughter because she
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: thinks she's the reincarnation of Sodaga, which in reality is
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: it's not true. But her mother is a little you
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: never see the mother in this book, by the way,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: you just hear about, Oh well, we'll get to it.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: So Sonaco and this little girl kind of chat and
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: that she said, oh am I cursed now, and Sonica's
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: more like she's confused. It's like, uh, why are you here?
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: She's more curious and like, what's going on? What You're
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: not the reincarnation to me? I'm right here. And that's
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: when she learns that she's not allowed to leave the room,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: but she can go online, of course, and she can
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: interact with the world through her phone and her computer,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: well most of her phone. And Shellie knows Astaco through
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: what her mom says and of course the curse tape,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: and she learns that her that basically, I mean, this
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: girl is lonely. So she makes a friend with Sodaco
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: becomes friends with her, and then they decided to get
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: an idea to help Sodaco spread the curse. She's like, oh,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: let's spread the curse together. Let's do it. And they're like, hell, yeah,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: how are we going to do it? Because TVs are
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: not she she likes coming looks coming out of the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: old school TVs. Yeah, and they don't have that nowadays.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: And she's like, you can come out with the phones, right,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: and she's like, yeah, but it's not It's better to
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: come out of an old school TV. So it kind
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: of goes into the idea of like what would Snako
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: do in modern day age, but in a kind of
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: a comedic way, because Sonac's like, uh, I don't get this.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: This is weird. Why do I have to use the internet?
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I can just come out with TVs? But no one
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: will watch the videotape unless they do on the internet
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: because VHS is they're not a thing anymore, or they're
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: very they're a oh my god, they're retro vintage. God.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: It feels so old, and.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: For our younger viewers, VHS was how we watched movies
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: back then at home.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: The fact that you have to explain what VHS ages us.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: My dad, Well, we'd have to you would have to
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: explaining what a landline is to some kids nowadays, Like
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you would have to explain what dial up was to
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: some kids. Though granted I have I'm with them there
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: because I didn't have dial up growing up.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: You don't know, you're not that much.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like my parents weren't that kind of They
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: weren't really that into tech when I was a kid,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Like my mom definitely wasn't. My dad. He didn't really
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: care for a dial up. But I remember we did
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: have like a computer, uh, like just a regular desktop computer,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: but it was one of those like boxy ones, like
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: big old tower like and these big ass screens basically
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: like a like an actual like a little TV uh
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: and uh. But I don't think we had dial up
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: because this was in the early two thousands. I think
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: like it was just we were just now coming in
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: to the age of like it was still like a
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: landline service, but it wasn't that dial up you know
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: when you do dial up and it's like it makes
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: that sound.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: It wasn't the transitional period of dial up and broadband
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: and stuff was like that weird transitional period I remember.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he had to. He still had to make sure
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: his computer was plugged in. And I think it was
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: in the mid two thousands that's when we started getting
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Wi Fi. But like he, he was my dad was
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the one who was starting to embrace the tech, thet tech.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: My mom wasn't. But even though Dad they were both
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: like getting more into tech, they didn't want me and
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: my brother to like rely on it because they were
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: the ones. They were the kind of people that thought like, oh, well,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: tech isn't going to be really, that isn't going to
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: be very reliable. Like, so don't get don't don't rely
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: on it because it's not that reliable. Now Here we are, yeah,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: now here we are. I'm recording this for my Mac
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: but pro, and I have my and I have an
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: iPhone and then I have a PlayStation. All right, like
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I have tech. I carry tech with me everywhere. I
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: have a smart watch.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Too, my mic so my camera.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: So like here, I am totally dependent on technology though
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I still though I still flex on people like I know,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I know I can, I can get from two places
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: without needing GPS. I mean I know people that are
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: all like.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I can. But my sense of directions a little fucked
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: unless I've been there several times. That's I mean, don't
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: make don't give me that look.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Damn driving with like I used to drive with Uber,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: and I now know pretty much where everything is in
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: San Antonio because I've been.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: To like all over the place.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Uber took me. Yeah, Uber took me everywhere. Yeah, And
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: well I'm glad I don't work with Uber anymore. That
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: was one. I appreciate it. I appreciate about it.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: But yeah, So Sotaka is trying to get into the
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: new world of technology and the internet. So they decided
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: to make a YouTube channel or it's like a video.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: They don't I don't think they actually directly say YouTube.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: It's YouTube, and they call they called the channel a
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: double Sadako because the girl never got First off, the
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: girl never got named as a child. Her mom just
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: referred to her as reincarnation of Dago. But she took
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: on the name cool my name is Sotaka because she
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: never really she doesn't really have a name. And that's
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: when the sadness hits that this girl's abused and neglected.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Luckily you don't see any of it. But again, it's
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: just like reading between the lines and some of the
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: things she says and the way we'll get to it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: There is one part that's like nothing, nothing like that,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: but it's more like her birthday comes around and her
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: mother locks her and locks her in the closet and
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: she thinks she did something wrong when she didn't. She
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: does exist, and it's it's that's a little depressing, but
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: we'll have myself. So Double Soticle is the channel they
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: made and they are making videos to helpfully spread the curse,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Sodacal's curse to everyone in the world, and they decided
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: to collaborate with a another another YouTuber guy, and then
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: he gets into the mix and Sadcle visits him and
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: he gets cursed, and there's a He's like, she basically
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: threatens this guy. Threatens this guy and say, hey, you're
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: gonna help us or I'm gonna kill you with my
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: curse or curse your sister. He's like, no, not my sister.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: So he helps them get more views and he just
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: saw to go how to put ads ads on the
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: on the curse video so she can make money. I'm like,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: that's kind of funny, that's kind of it is.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: That is kind of funny though.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: That's kind of funny. How to monetize that shit, And
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: they try to reenact coming out of a well so
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: that he use a bathtub because they don't she doesn't
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: have access to the well, like cuz he's a bathtub
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: and just have it come out of that. It's it's
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: it's funny, it's adorable. And basically it's just this little
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: girl trying to uh, interacting with people for the first
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: time and first time in like ever outside of her mom.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: And she's that and she's finally getting like socializing, learning
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: how to be a person. And it's where the sadness
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: kind of kicks in that her mom doesn't let her
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: interact with the world around her, so this is the
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: only way for her to do it with a ghost
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and a man that's somewhere in Japan. And it I mean,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's basically the comic at face value, there's
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: something there's no like other storyline that happens. It's a
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: bunch of little, quick, little comic strips of them making
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: the YouTube videos, them talking about how they're going to
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: spread the curs Staca, threatening the the guy to help them,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: and how to monetize and she takes the monetization money
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: and she goes and buys little Sadako a teddy bear,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: and she sticks in front of her door because little
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Sadakoa talked about how she went a big old teddy bear,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: the biggest she can find, and she couldn't get one.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Obviously her mom didn't. Her mom didn't get her one,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: but Sadako did and she put in front of the
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: closet door. So when her birthday came around and Staco
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Chan was locked in the closet, she saw a teddy
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: bear there and she thought her mom gave it to her,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: but in reality it was not. It was the ghost
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: the curse. It was Sodaco Soo son and she is
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: honestly being more of a mother to the girl than
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: her actual mother. So that's a whole other level of
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: sadness there. Yeah, And basically it's a lot of back
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: and forth that and funny little moments of them trying
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: to spread the curse and shit and figure out ways
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: how to do that. And at the very end they're like, wait,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: you're curse on in the last seven days, and then
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: they die. We've been doing this for seven months. You
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: haven't really hursed anybody, and then it ends. They're like,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: oh shit, fucked up, and it ends straight up just
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: ends when they realize it's been seven months and no
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: one's died, like fuck, and then just ends it's great.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of funny. I was like,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: it's been seven months and you haven't killed anybody, girl, girl, And.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: She was just having too much fun with their little friend.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much, and it's funny. Causatako's like, I don't
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: like going out of phone. She's little little girls, like
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: can you? And you see an image of her kind
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: of ghosting into a phone and like half her body's
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: hanging out. She's like, I've gained some weight since my days.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: And then they make a crack we can make YouTube
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: videos about dieting and then shave your head if you
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: don't lose enough weight in like a month, and I'm
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: just like, oh my god, no, no, absolutely not. And
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: then there's a whole thing where's like, oh my god,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: let's give you a haircut and comb your hair and
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: you can look pretty, and she does that. Seems to
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: be a guy a running gag with Soto, since her
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: hair is all really and nappy for being in the
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: well for thirty years. Yeah, but that's pretty much where
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: it ends. It doesn't give like a it doesn't give
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: like a legit conclusion kind of just tapers off like
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: watch I Found a high episode. Yeah, and that's pretty
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: much Sun and Coachan. It's depressing, but in a different way.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: When you get that realization, it just hits you and
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god, and then you guys. Then
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: for me, I sat there and wondered, it's sad to
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: go even there? Or is this little girl imagining her?
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Then it got real depressing and I'm like, oh.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: It's that moment when you it's that moment when you
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: like start thinking about it more and you're just like,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: oh that.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: That just makes me well sad, that makes me depressed.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: But it's a good read. Yeah, I mean it's a
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: fun little read if you like. And the Ring and
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: all that's a fun little comedy manga with underlying tones
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: of don't think about too hard, you'll get real sad.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: But that's the book, that's the manga for you. Of course,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be the last time we talk about SOT
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: for a while. I do plan on coming back to
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: these because I do have the books of course except
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: for the last one, because the last one has not
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: been released in the United States, get on that. But
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I do have the books. I have the melnga of
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: the main series based on the movies, and then of
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: course I have the American films and the Japanese films,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: so they're gonna be episodes on all that fun stuff.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: But thank you all for listening. Today's episode catches next
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: time as we dive back into the wheel of time. Baby,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm I'm excited to close out the series.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: And I'm also excited to start reading other books because
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. There's just there was a point
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: where I was like, this is taken up too much
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: my life and any diversity. But I'm not that kind
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: of reader that could just pause reading one book and
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: start reading another. Yeah, I just I'm just not like,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: like the next book I'm actually reading. Is this book
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a little book I got for Christmas?
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Slash?
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Was it Christmas or Birthday? You gave it to me?
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I know you did, so that's all I'm.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Christmas, I think, yes, because you.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Gave it to me with the Mathra figure right with
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: my mathra pop. Yes, So Devin gifted me this. He
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: already read it and he says it's great, and I've
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: been wanting to read it too, so like almost a
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: year now, but I had other priorities and I have
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: other books literally, like there's a stack of them on
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: my on my shelf over here that I'm gonna be reading.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: And uh, after the Wheel of Time, Uh, of course, Devin.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: There's more books Devin wants to review, like The Ring,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: and then we're gonna review Dead Silence, and I'm trying,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I'm trying really hard to think of what other books
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: we can review. There's that. I don't think I'm gonna
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: go back and reread those. No, I don't want to
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: review Game of Thrones because mainly because I haven't read
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: them all, and also because if you want to read them,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: we can review it. You're just gonna be the one
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: that takes the rain on it. Because I couldn't get
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: past the Red Wedding I read as far. That's how
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: far I read The Red Wedding really like actually it
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: ruined the entire story for me, just seeing like like
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: the like I literally bet all my money on the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Starks and they all got betrayed that way. And I
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: was just like, I'm done. It's been that that series
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: has been out for over a decade now, and the
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: series has been has been finished for home a decade now.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: It's not finished the the show is finished, but the
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: books are not.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Well fucking rot. Well, George our Mountain needs to work
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: on it. I can't talk right now. George R. Martin
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: needs to work, like, get get his ass and gear
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: and go finish the series, damn it. But no, Like
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: back to my point, it has been literal decades since
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: this series has been out, and if you don't know
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: anything about it, like we're we're well past the statute
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: of limitations for spoilers. Okay, so because they're there are
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: literal spoilers all over the internet right now. You could
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: look up Summery, you could look up a summary of
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: the of the entire story. You can look up YouTube videos.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: You can go on Max right now and watch the
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: entire thing.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's all my list of things to do,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: because I wouldn't mind doing the Throne series. I was
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: thinking on the Fire and Ice or what the fuck
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: is called.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I was thinking of reviewing the Dresden Files eventually, because
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I do have the first three books. I was in
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the middle of reading, uh, Full Moon, which is book two.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I don't remember how many books there are in that series,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: but I want to go back and like finish reading it.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Dress and Files is like it's one of those books
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I wanted to read that was slightly outside of my
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: typical genre because I typically read sci fi and fantasy
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: books of course, like with the Will of Time and
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: things like that, but it's more of a ma Cob
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: So yeah, there's like it's there's magic, there's wizards, there's Fay,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: there's Fay and demons and ship. But it's more of
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: a like Harry Dresden is a he is a private investigator,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: but he preferred but he investigates supernatural crimes. So it's
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: it's outside of that excitement that I'm used to. It's
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: more of a mystery. Yeah, so like a fantasy like
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: a mystery, like a fantasy mystery genre. And uh, that's
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: why I'm having that why I'm kind of like going
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: back and forth like reading it. Like I took me
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a while to read the first book, get around and
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: reading the first book, and then I said reading the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: second book, but I was like, I want to read
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: something else. This is like it's a good it's a
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: good series, but it's like, yeah, it's my favorite genre,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. But but I do want to do that.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I get to figure out. I got to look at,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: like how many books there are, because I have the
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: first three and then I think there's like seven or
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: eight books in the series. Don't quote me on that,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: but I think it's an ongoing series too, because it's
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: been out for a long time.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have a several I have a small
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: list of books and you get through as well, like
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: more brom books like The Child Thief and Christmas. I
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: want to do Crampist because there's a crampst story I
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: want to do. But there's there's a small list of
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: books I have, like the for another one. Another one
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: of the big ones is the Chronicles and Ernie. I
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: had the whole series of books and the whole series
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: of audiobooks. I want Area zero that trilogy. That'd be
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: fun because I have access to those books as well
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: as the audio book. There's a small list I have
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: going on, Oh what if Loki? What Marvels? What if? Logi?
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: And then the other one coming out this month that's
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: the what if Wanda was Peter Parker's sister, which seems
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: very interesting. Yeah, there's a whole they're that whole series
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I want to do too. So oh yeah, we have
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: a list of books coming in after the Whale of Time,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: but we gotta finish out the Whale of Time.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Yep, oh shit, how many books? Seventeen Jesus Christ.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: But these are these are like, these are novels, so
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: they're not as they're not as like they're not as
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: long as The Wheel of Time got like the Wheel
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: of Time books were long.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Honestly, reading the Wheel of Times was like reading a
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: slightly I was reading a longer Reading The Wheel of
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Time was like reading a longer version of The Lord
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: of the Lord of the Rings, but it was more
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: up to the time. It was more up to date
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and the times and things like that. It was written
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: in the newer writing styles. I mean. The series ended
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: in the mid like mid to late two thousands, like
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: two thousand and eight was when the last book came out,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: I think. And while it's not on the same level
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: as the as Lord of the Rings, it's definitely like
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: it's that it's a classic fantasy series. It's definitely a
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: classic now and I don't think it's getting the recognition
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: or the love that it deserves. But still it's it's
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: still a relatively unknown series, and hopefully more and more
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: it becomes it continues to be popular and they keep
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: making making more of the series because it's series is
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: not doing bad.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: That's some pretty good. Where's the show going?
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty good. The thing is is that I
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: hope in the next few series they address some things
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: from the original source material, like they don't really explain
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: the differences in the in the one uh, in the
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: One Power, or like what really separates men and women
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: like male and female channelers? Yeah, because like all they
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: mentioned like offhandedly, like oh, we can't women can't see
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: a man's weaves, like the we like a channeler's weaves
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: are invisible to the to a non channeler, but to
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: other channelers. Women can only see other women's weaves, while
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: men can only see their other men's weaves. Yeah, and
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: they never in the show. It doesn't explain why, and
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: it doesn't explain that, oh, the True Source has literally
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: two halves, a male and female half. Yeah, and if
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: you're and depending on like your gender, that's the half
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: the drawn. Yeah, but I think that's part of but
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: that's nowadays that's a touchy subject it comes to gender.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: That'd be cool to explore though, what do you do
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: what happens somebody's transgender?
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: And while there isn't much about transgender about trans people
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: in the Wheel of Time, there were several There was
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: a character who uh he was one of the forsaken.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: He got he was killed in literally book one. He
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: was one of the first to forsaken to be killed.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: And the dark One can bring the forsaken back to life,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: and he does this through a soul transmigration. So when
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: you die, he captures soul and puts it in a
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: new body. And the thing is is that as his
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: way of punishing this one particular forsaken for failing him,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: he put his soul into the body of a woman. Yeah,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: so while his soul was in the body of a woman,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: he could still channel from the male half of the
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: true source. So that so imagine, like, so I can
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: imagine that. I'm pretty sure there would be like there
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: could be trans uh, like, there could be trans transgender
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: channelers m hm. And it could either be like, well
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: they trans while they do transition from man to woman
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: or woman to man, they'd still draw. They would still
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: draw on like the female or male half the source,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: or if they were if they were a man like
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: goes deeper into being a man trapped in a woman's
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: body or vice versa, then it's like they could they
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: could have explored that. And hell like there are there
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: are gay people in the books. Yeah, now this isn't
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: until uh, it isn't until much later in like the
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: later half of the series that they started talking where
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: it's mentioned. It's not really they don't delve into that
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: topic very deeply. But there are several characters that were
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: either gay or like the other characters mentioned or like
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: had gay experiences, like some Iid Eye were straight up lesbians.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: There's PolyAm there's polyamory, hell, especially among the iceid I,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: especially among the green Naja, because the green Naja are
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: the ones that have more than just one order. And
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: so and there was one green Naja and uh, there
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: was one iceid Eye in particular, who rumor had it
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: that she married all three of her orders. It's just
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: like girl work. But there were several of the great uh,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: several of the I said I who straight up admitted
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: that they've had relationships with others, like with other with
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: other members of the isid I. And then there were
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: some male characters that like other characters commented on like
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, that dude prefers men.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Like in.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Uh, Like towards the end, one of them, one of
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: the one character comments on another is like, you know,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: we need to like you know, it's gonna be that
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: guy's like the way he acts is gonna be it's
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: gonna make it harder for him to find a wife.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: And then another character was like, yeah, it would be hard,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: especially because he prefers men, and the others like what
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: like like he clearly prefers men, like the other one
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: just called out that dude like he clearly prefers men.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: And its just like it's not there's no homophobia, that's clear,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: there's no homophobia. It's just more of those things that's like, oh,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: they exist and it's not it's not like they're not
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: hated and they're not like it's not something that is
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: really commented on, but it's definitely like oh okay.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, matter of fact.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: It's like it's more yeah, it's very matter of fact,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: like okay, yeah, I mean if you're if you're a channeler,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: like the least of your problems is being gay.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yes, catch us next time as we talk
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: about go back into the world of wheel of time.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Until then, ah bye, oh god, oh god, I need
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: to end this correctly.