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Episode #3959 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive May 2006 · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: It's time for another Radio Archive Hour here from the
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Speaker 1: Radio Hall of Fame show of me, Phil Hendry, at
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Speaker 1: our website, philhendryshow.com. And we have Paul Lane from May
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Speaker 1: of 2006. I call him Paul Lane. We used to
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Speaker 1: call him Paul Tubby Lane. He's not a character that
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Speaker 1: we used too much. He started out as a NASCAR
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Speaker 1: race driver, and he had a whole bunch of weird
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Speaker 1: fantasies when it came to being a race car driver.
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Speaker 1: He thought racing on Nintendo was, you know, big time
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Speaker 1: and equally as dangerous. But in this particular bit, he's
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Speaker 1: got some weird prenuptial with his wife. where if she
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Speaker 1: asks something degrading of him sexually, he gets to hit her.
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Speaker 2: That's pretty much it.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know why I'm laughing, but the whole
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Speaker 1: conversation boils down to her stepping into the punch, her
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Speaker 1: making him wear a cowgirl outfit with boots and a whip,
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Speaker 1: and it goes back and forth like this.
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Speaker 2: Let's listen.
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Speaker 1: The callers have their opinion. It's Paul Tubby Lane from
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Speaker 1: May of 2006. Paul, you signed a rather unusual prenuptial
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Speaker 1: agreement with your wife, and I want to ask you
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Speaker 1: a little bit about that. I also know that you're
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Speaker 1: a former short-track stock car driver, right?
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir. That's what I did in Florida about 15
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Speaker 3: years ago, and I've been in ownership ever since.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: Now, we have you on the program tonight because of
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a problem that you are involved in,
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Speaker 1: and I hope it's not serious, but by the same token,
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Speaker 1: we want to sort of get to the bottom of this.
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Speaker 2: But the police... You've had a visit from the police,
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Speaker 2: is that right?
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Speaker 3: I had a visit from the police. I also had
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Speaker 3: a conversation with my attorney about the legality and the
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Speaker 3: prenuptial agreement that we did sign. But I think that
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Speaker 3: I'm glad to be able to come on this program
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Speaker 3: and explain my side to this because it was unusual,
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Speaker 3: but I think that When people hear my side of this,
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Speaker 3: they're going to know that this has nothing to do
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Speaker 3: with spousal abuse or anything. This is simply brought on,
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Speaker 3: I think, by my own wife and her misunderstanding.
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Speaker 1: All right, now this prenuptial, when the two of you
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Speaker 1: first started dating, this contains in it your right to
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Speaker 1: punish or administer to your wife some form of physical punishment.
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Speaker 2: Corporal punishment, meaning a physical kind of punishment, right? Now,
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Speaker 2: this sounds very 19th century. It sounds very antiquated. But, Mr.
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Speaker 1: Lane, you believe you have the right, given the fact
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Speaker 1: that your wife's sexual tastes.
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Speaker 2: Are peculiar.
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Speaker 1: So I want to talk to you about this. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to the program. Are you a devoutly religious man? Would
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Speaker 1: you describe this agreement with your wife to be religiously mandated?
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Speaker 3: No, not at all. I'm glad you asked me the question,
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Speaker 3: because this is sort of You know, the first thing
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Speaker 3: people assume, they assume that because I believe in my
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Speaker 3: right to administer corporal punishment for my wife that it's
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Speaker 3: in the Bible. No, I was raised actually in a
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Speaker 3: very non-religious home. My father taught school, but it was
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Speaker 3: a public high school. My mother had her own business.
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Speaker 3: So our family was pretty well middle class.
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Speaker 2: What did your mom do? What kind of business was
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Speaker 2: she in?
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Speaker 3: My mother had a clothing store through much of my
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Speaker 3: growing up.
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Speaker 2: Did your father ever strike your mother?
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Speaker 1: In other words, was this corporal punishment something you saw
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Speaker 1: your father practice on your mother? Was there any kind
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Speaker 1: of domestic abuse?
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Speaker 3: No, my father and my mother were fairly equal, I
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Speaker 3: guess you could say modern. The way they related did
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Speaker 3: inspire me to a degree, but my father never struck
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Speaker 3: my mother.
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Speaker 2: All right, now where did you meet your wife, Julianne?
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Speaker 3: Well, I met her. She was a fan, a racing fan.
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Speaker 3: I was one of the time driving on a short
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Speaker 3: track stock car circuit here in Florida, and she was
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Speaker 3: just one of the fans that you get to know.
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Speaker 3: We began to see each other. When I would come
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Speaker 3: through her town, she lives in Ocoee, Florida, and we
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Speaker 3: saw each other and started dating.
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Speaker 1: Now, while you were dating and you were getting intimate,
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Speaker 1: you say this is where this idea you had for
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Speaker 1: a prenuptial that would allow you to physically punish her
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Speaker 1: came about, right?
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Speaker 3: Well, and this is the part of the story that
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Speaker 3: I don't want to focus on too much, but when
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Speaker 3: we met and we began to have sex, she had
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Speaker 3: and does have sexual tastes that I don't like or appreciate.
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Speaker 2: Can you give me an idea?
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Speaker 3: Well, she was into this bondage or so forth, and
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Speaker 3: I dealt with it the best way I could. But it,
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Speaker 3: you know, I didn't like it. But I loved her
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Speaker 3: and we felt we belonged together. So when it came
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Speaker 3: time for us to be married, I suggested a prenuptial
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Speaker 3: that said if I gave her free reign in terms
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Speaker 3: of these sexual needs of hers, then I wanted the
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Speaker 3: right to physically punish her if she did not do
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Speaker 3: something I asked. And here's where people always ask me
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Speaker 3: about my upbringing. My father didn't beat my mother, and
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Speaker 3: I don't beat my wife. I did see, however, how
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Speaker 3: my mother really ran roughshod over my father a lot
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Speaker 3: and belittled him and was sarcastic with him. And I
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Speaker 3: remember when I was a child, my experience was a
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Speaker 3: little bit unique, where many kids might wish that their
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Speaker 3: fathers didn't hit their mother. I found myself feeling the opposite.
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Speaker 3: I remember at times wishing my dad would smack my
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Speaker 3: mom or get her to shut up or just push
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Speaker 3: her down some stairs or something.
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Speaker 1: All right, so you felt, in other words, there was
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Speaker 1: a time and a place for that kind of behavior
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Speaker 1: from a man to a woman.
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Speaker 3: Well, I did, but I also knew that it was illegal.
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Speaker 3: So I put this in our prenuptial... And my wife, Julianne,
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Speaker 3: agreed to it. Now, the reason why she agreed to
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Speaker 3: it is because I'm never allowed to hit her so
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Speaker 3: hard that blood is drawn or bones are broken or
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Speaker 3: anything like that.
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Speaker 2: Well, then what are we talking about here? Is it
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Speaker 2: just smacking her across the face?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct. Smacking her across the face or backhanding
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Speaker 3: her across the face.
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Speaker 2: And she agreed to this?
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Speaker 3: Yes, she did. Now, I didn't know at the time
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Speaker 3: that there might be a possibility she... And this is
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Speaker 3: where I got into a problem. that she might enjoy
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Speaker 3: it on some level. But over the year we've been married,
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Speaker 3: when I didn't backhand her across the face, she didn't
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Speaker 3: look like it bothered her when I did.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, at the end of March, you came
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Speaker 1: home one night, and there were dishes piled in the sink.
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Speaker 1: She hadn't done something that you'd asked her to do, right?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct.
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Speaker 1: Tell me the story, and I want to give our
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Speaker 1: number out, 1-800-449-8686, 1-800-449-8686. I'm talking to Paul Lane, who
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Speaker 1: has a prenuptial with his wife that allows him to
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Speaker 1: smack her.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I.
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Speaker 1: Don't mean to laugh, because I know you got into
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Speaker 1: some problems here. You're about to tell us a story.
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Speaker 1: If she doesn't do what you ask her to do,
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Speaker 1: but that is so she, but you put up with
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Speaker 1: her weird sexual tastes, right?
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Speaker 2: Did you say this is S & M that she's into?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's into this kind of bondage thing, and I
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Speaker 3: go along with it to a point, but I don't
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Speaker 3: like it. And that's why I said, all right, if
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Speaker 3: you're going to tie me up and humiliate me in
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Speaker 3: that way sexually, why don't I have the right to
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Speaker 3: punish you physically for the things that you don't do?
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Speaker 2: All right, so you got home this night, and what happened?
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Speaker 3: I got home. I noticed that there were dishes in
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Speaker 3: the sink from the breakfast, and I said I wanted
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Speaker 3: the dishes cleaned up when I got home. And I
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Speaker 3: noticed that the kitchen basically hadn't been touched. And my wife, Julia,
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Speaker 3: was sitting there at the kitchen table with her sister,
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Speaker 3: having what they enjoy to have as a martini, and
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Speaker 3: I said to her, Dishes, as I asked, weren't done.
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Speaker 3: And she said, yeah, I don't have time. And at
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Speaker 3: that time, I noticed this look on her face. And
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Speaker 3: it was almost a smile or maybe just amusement. And
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Speaker 3: it was then that I judged that maybe she enjoys
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Speaker 3: the fact that, you know, she doesn't do what I
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Speaker 3: tell her because she knows I'm going to smack her.
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Speaker 3: So I physically punished her for not doing things I asked.
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Speaker 3: So I remember thinking I would hit her a lot
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Speaker 3: harder than I had. done before to see how she
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Speaker 3: liked that. And what happened was I unconsciously balled up
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Speaker 3: my fist, and I did throw a punch that I
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Speaker 3: did lean into, but I told the police that she
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Speaker 3: stepped into it. And that's what....
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Speaker 2: She stepped into your plunge.
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Speaker 3: That is my firm belief, and that's what I told
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Speaker 3: the officer.
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Speaker 2: And you wound up breaking her nose, is that right?
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Speaker 3: Well, what happened was, it was a fracture of the
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Speaker 3: nasal septum and some cartilage, but yeah, it was a
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Speaker 3: broken nose. And I told the officer that arrested me
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Speaker 3: that she stepped into it.
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Speaker 2: But you said you balled up your fist.
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Speaker 3: Well, it was an unconscious act on my part because
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Speaker 3: I saw when I said to her that dishes aren't
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Speaker 3: done and she looked up from the table and she
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Speaker 3: had almost a half smile, I thought, you know, she
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Speaker 3: looks at times like she's almost enjoying it. So that's
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Speaker 3: why I thought.
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Speaker 2: So you were going to throw a punch.
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Speaker 3: But I did not want to throw a punch. I
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Speaker 3: wanted to slap her hard, but I unconsciously balled up
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Speaker 3: my fist. And I even said to the police officer...
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Speaker 3: that when I threw the punch, I leaned into it,
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Speaker 3: which means I'm putting a little bit of force behind it. But,
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Speaker 3: and this is, Mr. General, the thing I want to say,
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Speaker 3: and I swear to God, and there's no other way
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Speaker 3: I can say it, but I swear to God, she
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Speaker 3: stepped into it. In other words, I leaned into the punch,
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Speaker 3: but she stepped right into my fist.
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Speaker 1: So she was, in your estimation, knowing that you had
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Speaker 1: this agreement that you can punish her if she doesn't
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Speaker 1: do what you want her to do, She stepped into
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Speaker 1: a haymaker, basically, that you were throwing.
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir. That is my firm belief. Yes, sir.
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Speaker 1: Did it look to you as if she didn't do
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Speaker 1: the dishes on purpose, that she was looking forward to
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Speaker 1: having you smack her?
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, it did. Yes, sir, it did. Because I'd
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Speaker 3: seen her before, but when I said, look, dishes are
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Speaker 3: not done, the kitchen looks exactly the same way it
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Speaker 3: did this morning, and she looked up and smiled, like, yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: like almost as if to say, uh-huh, yeah, what are
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Speaker 3: you going to do about it? Now, we have in
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Speaker 3: our prenuptial agreement the wording that says, I'm allowed to
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Speaker 3: physically punish her if she does not obey me, but
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Speaker 3: I can't, you know, draw blood, I can't break any bones. Technically,
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Speaker 3: I violated that.
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Speaker 2: Were you arrested?
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Speaker 3: Yes, I was.
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Speaker 2: And charged with what?
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Speaker 3: I was charged with domestic violence ordinance, Florida state law.
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Speaker 3: first-degree felony assault, and that's what I thought was unfair
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Speaker 3: because I told the police officer that we have a
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Speaker 3: prenuptial agreement, and also when I leaned into the punch,
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Speaker 3: but she stepped into it almost as if she was
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Speaker 3: just stepping right into it like she was getting on
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Speaker 3: a train.
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Speaker 2: All right. Hold the line, okay, Paul?
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 2: There it is, folks. This man has a prenuptial with
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Speaker 2: his wife.
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Speaker 1: Now, it all started apparently because she's got this sexual
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Speaker 1: fetish for bondage, which he doesn't like. But he puts
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Speaker 1: up with it so long as she adheres to this
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Speaker 1: prenuptial agreement that allows him to smack her if she
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Speaker 1: doesn't do what he asks. He's not allowed to break bones.
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Speaker 1: He's not allowed to draw blood. What happened at their
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Speaker 1: home at the end of March... was that he felt
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Speaker 1: that nothing, this punishment was not doing anything. She hadn't
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Speaker 1: done the dishes. According to Mr. Lane, you just heard him,
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Speaker 1: he leaned into a punch. And this is the first
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Speaker 1: time he says he balled his fist up. But he
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Speaker 1: says she stepped into the punch and he broke her nose.
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Speaker 1: This is an interesting couple.
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Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: We'll be back with Paul Lane on the world-famous Phil
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Speaker 1: Henry Show.
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Speaker 2: The Phil Henry Show is back.
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Speaker 1: Paul Lane, Mr. Lane lives in Orlando, Florida. His wife
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Speaker 1: is Julianne. He was arrested at the end of March
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Speaker 1: for domestic violence. He hit his wife, but understand that
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Speaker 1: they have a prenuptial that allows him to strike her
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Speaker 1: For disciplinary reasons. And the reason why you got this
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Speaker 1: into the prenup is because of her sexual taste for bondage, correct?
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Speaker 3: That's right. And to understand, I think, why I insisted
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Speaker 3: on this, I do not think that a person's sexual
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Speaker 3: personality is necessarily a bad thing, but I think there's
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Speaker 3: certain acts that are degrading to humans. I think the
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Speaker 3: natural act of lovemaking is fine. I think when you
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Speaker 3: meet a human being that has a fetish for bondage,
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Speaker 3: for tying up another human being, I think it goes
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Speaker 3: well beyond normal behavior. And in recent years, you can
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Speaker 3: read magazines, you can look at, I don't know, different
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Speaker 3: adult sites or what have you that celebrates this kind
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Speaker 3: of activity. And I just think it's degrading. I think
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Speaker 3: it's ridiculous. I've never liked it. And I've never liked
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Speaker 3: any woman who expressed an interest in it. I did
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Speaker 3: meet my wife. I do love her. Our attraction transcends that.
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Speaker 3: But I feel like I should have the right to
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Speaker 3: comment on her sexual taste for bondage and sadomasochism. And
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Speaker 3: that's why I said to her, we've got to have
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Speaker 3: a tradeoff here. I'm not going to put up with
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Speaker 3: you doing the things that you do in a bedroom
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Speaker 3: at night. You've got to give me a tradeoff. And
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Speaker 3: I said, because my impulses want to punish you for that.
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Speaker 2: So you want to smack her around because she's into bondage?
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Speaker 3: I don't like that. But I don't like what she's into.
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Speaker 3: But I did say, if you're going to do that
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Speaker 3: kind of strange thing, all right, then let me have
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Speaker 3: my strange interest, if you will, that'll actually do some
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Speaker 3: good for our home. She can tie me up during
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Speaker 3: sex or whatever it is that she's into. That's not
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Speaker 3: going to do anything for me. But if she allows
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Speaker 3: me to smack her face or backhand her across the
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Speaker 3: face if she didn't do shirts or whatever I need
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Speaker 3: to have done, that helps get things done around the house.
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Speaker 2: And she was agreeable to this?
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Speaker 3: She was agreeable to it to the point where I
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Speaker 3: could smack her pretty good and still I wouldn't get
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Speaker 3: anything done. And that's why I did the other night.
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Speaker 1: When you balled your fist up and you leaned into
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Speaker 1: this haymaker and you say, by way of defense for yourself,
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Speaker 1: she stepped into it.
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, she stepped into it. Because I think she
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Speaker 3: knew and I knew we'd been coming to that point
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Speaker 3: where I knew I had to hit her hard enough
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Speaker 3: to send a message that she's got to get some
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Speaker 3: things done. And I think she wanted to lean into it.
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Speaker 3: to actually feel some pain, because I think she was
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Speaker 3: laughing at me, because I wasn't hitting her that hard.
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Speaker 2: Well, what did she say after you busted her nose?
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Speaker 3: Oh, she started crying. She called the police. You know,
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Speaker 3: she called the police. She said I violated the agreement
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Speaker 3: and everything. Even though she leaned right into that punch.
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Speaker 3: I mean, she stepped into that punch like a man
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Speaker 3: who's climbing up onto a diving board. You know how
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Speaker 3: you pull yourself up? She almost pulled herself right into
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Speaker 3: the full force. And that was a jab. It wasn't
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Speaker 3: a roundhouse. You mentioned a haymaker, Ms.
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Speaker 2: Jennery.
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Speaker 3: It was more of a good right-hand jab.
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Speaker 2: All right, 1-800-449-8686. Here is Marcella. Marcella, you're on The
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Speaker 2: Phil Henry Show with Paul Lane.
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Speaker 4: Hi.
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Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 5: I just wanted to say I understand his point. I
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Speaker 5: heard what he had said. It was kind of considering
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Speaker 5: his way of defense. But I have really strong political beliefs.
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Speaker 5: I really am against the whole double standard, a man
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Speaker 5: hitting a woman, it's abuse, a woman hitting a man,
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Speaker 5: and it's self-defense. It doesn't make any sense to me.
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Speaker 5: And the fact that the whole bondage thing is tying
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Speaker 5: into it is just, as long as it's classified as
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Speaker 5: a sex act, as long as it's classified or.
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Speaker 3: You know. So you agree with me, ma'am, in being
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Speaker 3: able to hit her?
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Speaker 5: Yes, I do, because there's no way that someone should
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Speaker 5: be able to degrade someone like that. put them through pain.
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Speaker 5: They can bite them. They can scratch them. They can
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Speaker 5: hit them, draw blood, whatever it is they're going to do.
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Speaker 5: And then as soon as it gets out of the bedroom,
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Speaker 5: it's considered abuse. That does not make any sense to
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Speaker 5: me whatsoever.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 5: So it's humiliating. It's humiliating.
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Speaker 3: Exactly. So that's what I did when I came home
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Speaker 3: that night and the dishes weren't done. That's why I
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Speaker 3: broke her nose to make sure that that would get.
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Speaker 2: Well, does the lady agree that a man should be
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Speaker 2: able to break a nose?
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Speaker 5: I don't, I mean, whether or not anything was broken,
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's, I mean, the main point
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Speaker 5: is if something, let's say that she, you know, was
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Speaker 5: performing a sex act in bed. Your nose happened to
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Speaker 5: be broken because she was being too rough. Or you
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Speaker 5: happened to have a bruise on your arm because she
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Speaker 5: was being too rough. You put a bruise on her,
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Speaker 5: you break her nose, it's considered abuse. She's doing it
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Speaker 5: in bed. It's her way of sexually expressing herself. That's crap.
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Speaker 3: That cannot be acceptable. I don't understand what the lady's saying.
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Speaker 3: You agree with me, right?
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Speaker 5: I agree with you 110%.
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Speaker 3: Oh, okay. Thank you very much, ma'am. You're welcome.
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Speaker 2: So he should be able to punch his wife out?
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Speaker 5: I don't believe that he should be able to punch
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Speaker 5: his wife out.
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Speaker 2: He ought to be able to smack her, though.
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Speaker 5: I believe that if, you know, if they come to
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Speaker 5: a sensible agreement, if he's honestly being humiliated in the second.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. That's what's in our prenuptial agreement, and that's what
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Speaker 3: my wife agreed to.
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Speaker 2: But, no, your wife agreed to being disciplined.
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Speaker 3: Well, but, yeah, but, you know, yes, if she doesn't
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Speaker 3: do what I tell her to do, she agrees that
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Speaker 3: I'm allowed to smack her across the face. That's her agreement.
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Speaker 3: That's her bond.
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Speaker 5: That's her agreement.
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Speaker 3: Exactly.
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Speaker 5: She has no place to be calling the police if
18:01
Speaker 5: she's telling you right off the bat, hey, okay, this
18:04
Speaker 5: is an even trade. I'm going to do that. This
18:06
Speaker 5: is what I want to.
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Speaker 3: Do with you in bed.
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Speaker 5: This is what you're going to do with me to
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Speaker 5: get stuff done in the house.
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Speaker 2: Even if he breaks her nose.
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Speaker 3: No, the lady's already agreeing that my wife, Julianne, agreed
18:17
Speaker 3: that I had the right. I didn't want to, but
18:20
Speaker 3: given the fact that my wife buys leather outfits and everything,
18:26
Speaker 3: I have the right to split her nose. You know,
18:30
Speaker 3: if she wants to put me in some kind of
18:31
Speaker 3: a leather... Plus, a lot of the things she buys
18:33
Speaker 3: are obviously for girls because they've got garter belts, but
18:36
Speaker 3: she wants me to wear them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but dude, just putting you into a leather garter belt,
18:40
Speaker 2: you want to split her nose?
18:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's an entirely different situation. I'm talking about physical contact.
18:46
Speaker 5: I'm talking about.
18:48
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying that my wife wants me to wear
18:51
Speaker 3: these leather outfits... And I've got to find a way
18:55
Speaker 3: to take it out on her. It's humiliating for me
18:58
Speaker 3: to dress up in leather garter belts. So later on,
19:03
Speaker 3: I want to be able to cuff her around.
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Speaker 5: I'm speaking in a specifically physical sense.
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Speaker 3: But I thought you agreed with me.
19:13
Speaker 5: I agree with the fact that if she is hitting you,
19:16
Speaker 5: if she is leaving marks, if she is being so
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Speaker 5: rough with.
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Speaker 2: You that it's Does she leave marks on you?
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Speaker 3: Well, she ties me up. She tied me up and left...
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Speaker 3: I saw the tie-up marks on my wrist.
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Speaker 2: No, but I mean, is she breaking the skin? Is she.
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Speaker 3: No, but she ties me up and puts me in,
19:32
Speaker 3: you know, like a... puts me in garter belts and
19:35
Speaker 3: everything like this. Right, well, I mean.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not violence. I mean.
19:39
Speaker 3: Well, it's pretty sick, if you ask me.
19:42
Speaker 5: No, it's... I mean, in my opinion, that's just not
19:46
Speaker 5: my taste.
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Speaker 3: No, she ties me up and she tickles me with
19:49
Speaker 3: feathers and everything, and it's all I can do to
19:52
Speaker 3: wait until she unties me so I can find a
19:55
Speaker 3: reason to slap her and push her down some stairs
19:58
Speaker 3: or something, because... Push her down stairs?
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Speaker 1: Dude, all she's doing is asking where I'll let... Well,
20:03
Speaker 1: if she agreed to it, she agreed to it. Okay, Marcella,
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Speaker 1: thanks for your call.
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Speaker 3: You're welcome. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 2: Well, that lady there.
20:10
Speaker 3: Understands that there comes a time when your wife, you know, Mr. Henry,
20:15
Speaker 3: if I can, one time, you know, we hadn't been
20:19
Speaker 3: married too long. She came out of the bathroom, okay,
20:21
Speaker 3: and I don't want to say what it was, but
20:22
Speaker 3: she had something strapped on, and I won't say what
20:24
Speaker 3: it was. And she had it strapped on, and she
20:27
Speaker 3: was looking at me like I was the wife. And
20:31
Speaker 3: all I could do is fantasize about how eventually she'd
20:33
Speaker 3: let me go, and later on I'd be able to,
20:36
Speaker 3: you know, to belt her.
20:38
Speaker 2: All right. Hold on.
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Speaker 4: 1-800-449-8686.
20:39
Speaker 2: Phil Hendry Show.
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Speaker 4: The Phil Hendry Show.
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Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686. I don't mess and I don't play.
20:48
Speaker 2: The Phil Hendry Show is back.
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Speaker 4: 1-800-449-8686.
20:50
Speaker 2: I'm talking with Mr. Paul Lane. And, Mr. Lane, you're
20:55
Speaker 2: at a short track right now in Florida. Is that right?
20:57
Speaker 3: Well, I'm at a demolition derby in Ocoee, Florida. And
21:05
Speaker 3: this is for, it's a charity event for the Okoye area,
21:12
Speaker 3: Missioners League. It's something that the short track stock car
21:16
Speaker 3: drivers in north and north central Florida are involved in.
21:20
Speaker 3: And we raise money for various charities. And I got
21:25
Speaker 3: a great deal of enjoyment out of it. My wife
21:26
Speaker 3: enjoys it as well.
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Speaker 2: All right. We've got to get back, though, to this story, sir,
21:29
Speaker 2: of Okoye.
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Speaker 1: Of this night with the police that you spent, because
21:33
Speaker 1: when we talk about domestic violence in our country, we're
21:36
Speaker 1: talking about out-of-control violent behavior.
21:39
Speaker 2: One spouse to another. But you have in your prenuptial
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Speaker 2: your right to smack your wife.
21:44
Speaker 1: Now, your wife has this sexual fetish for bondage and domination.
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Speaker 2: I understand that. And you don't like it, correct?
21:52
Speaker 3: I do not like it, no, sir. But I put
21:54
Speaker 3: up with it. I allow her to do it.
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Speaker 2: But again, like that last caller, she doesn't, Harm you,
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Speaker 2: does she?
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Speaker 3: It depends on what you mean by harm. I mean, no,
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Speaker 3: she doesn't physically harm me, but, you know, it's humiliating,
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Speaker 3: I think. And I told you about, you know, when
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Speaker 3: she has me in a, like a leather, you know,
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Speaker 3: a girdle or something, and she comes out of the bathroom,
22:23
Speaker 3: and she's, you know, strapped, and she's strapped going on
22:27
Speaker 3: or whatever you want to say. That puts fear into
22:31
Speaker 3: me because I know what's about to happen. And so, yeah,
22:38
Speaker 3: I do think about how, you know, maybe later on
22:43
Speaker 3: that day I'll be able to smack her.
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Speaker 2: See, that's just it. This is like you want to
22:50
Speaker 2: punch her out for her sexual... weirdness, right?
22:54
Speaker 3: No, no.
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Speaker 1: Because you said that this is about, OK, if you
22:57
Speaker 1: get to do that, then I get to smack you
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Speaker 1: when you do not obey me with household chores.
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Speaker 3: That is true. And that's really what it's all about.
23:04
Speaker 3: But I feel because she's got this S & M thing,
23:07
Speaker 3: like I said, she stepped into that punch like she
23:09
Speaker 3: was waiting for it, like she was in like she
23:12
Speaker 3: enjoyed and she's going to enjoy every moment of having
23:16
Speaker 3: her nose busted wide open.
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Speaker 2: Boy, that is really weird, dude.
23:21
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we've got a good marriage. We love
23:23
Speaker 3: each other. We enjoy each other. It was the police
23:25
Speaker 3: that intruded in on this that we felt was wrong.
23:29
Speaker 2: But your wife called him.
23:30
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, she's now all, yeah, he hurt me.
23:33
Speaker 3: He abused me. I mean.
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Speaker 1: All right, let me go to a phone call here.
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Speaker 1: Our number is 1-800-449-8686. The Phil Hendry Show. Karis, hi,
23:41
Speaker 1: you're on the Phil Hendry Show with Paul Lane.
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Speaker 3: Hi.
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Speaker 2: Hi.
23:45
Speaker 4: I have a couple things to say. First of all...
23:48
Speaker 4: You seem a little bit selfish if you're going to
23:51
Speaker 4: say that if I'm going to give you something, you
23:54
Speaker 4: have to give me something.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's what marriage is about. Marriage is about, you know,
23:59
Speaker 3: give and take.
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Speaker 4: I think marriage is about love, first of all, and
24:03
Speaker 4: I think love.
24:04
Speaker 3: For kids is a multitude of things. Yeah, but what
24:05
Speaker 3: does that mean? How does that translate? It translates into
24:08
Speaker 3: giving each other what they need in exchange.
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Speaker 4: You're saying what they need. You don't need that. You
24:13
Speaker 4: want that.
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Speaker 3: My wife wants something, then I want something.
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Speaker 4: All right, well, if you're going to say it's all
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Speaker 4: about wants, then nobody's ever going to be happy because,
24:24
Speaker 4: quite honestly.
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Speaker 3: That just never happens. We're very happy.
24:28
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well, that's the first thing. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: What you're trying to say, but we're very happy. Okay,
24:37
Speaker 3: you're very happy. I got arrested by the Florida Highway
24:41
Speaker 3: Patrol because... My wife, she stepped right into that punch. Like, man,
24:48
Speaker 3: I can't even.
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Speaker 4: Okay, well, I've already heard that. Hello, are you there?
24:53
Speaker 3: I'm right here, ma'am.
24:54
Speaker 4: I've already heard that whole aspect of it. I've heard
24:58
Speaker 4: what you have to say on that.
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Speaker 1: And.
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Speaker 4: And what I have to say is a few minutes ago,
25:04
Speaker 4: before the first caller called in, you made the comment
25:06
Speaker 4: that you unconsciously balled up your fist. And now you're
25:11
Speaker 4: saying that it's all that I can do to get
25:14
Speaker 4: out of the bedroom once she does those things to
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Speaker 4: me so that I can find a way to punch her.
25:19
Speaker 4: or hit her or do something to get back at her.
25:21
Speaker 4: And that is not unconscious. So if you told a
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Speaker 4: cop that you unconsciously did something.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, ma'am, ma'am. I unconsciously balled up my fist.
25:29
Speaker 3: I knew that I was going to smack her. Well,
25:31
Speaker 3: I'm constantly balled up your fist. You made a choice, sir.
25:34
Speaker 3: You made a choice. No, no, I didn't know I'd
25:37
Speaker 3: balled my fist up until it slammed into her face.
25:39
Speaker 4: You didn't know you balled up your fist?
25:40
Speaker 3: I did not know my fist was balled up until
25:42
Speaker 3: it slammed. She stepped into it. Who does that?
25:45
Speaker 4: You made a decision.
25:46
Speaker 3: You made a decision. I don't know if your boyfriend,
25:49
Speaker 3: I mean, the last time your boyfriend hit you or
25:51
Speaker 3: if he does, but ask him if.
25:53
Speaker 4: He balled his fist. My boyfriend's never going to hit
25:55
Speaker 4: me because I'm never going to be in a relationship
25:57
Speaker 4: where I'm that degraded. You don't like bondage. You don't
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Speaker 4: like it.
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Speaker 3: I don't like it. Do you think my wife likes
26:05
Speaker 3: to be smacked? Do you think my wife likes to
26:07
Speaker 3: be smacked? No. But we give it to each other.
26:10
Speaker 3: And it's not something that a man looks forward to
26:13
Speaker 3: every night to have to lay on that bed waiting
26:15
Speaker 3: for her to walk out of the bathroom. You know,
26:18
Speaker 3: she tied one on like she's John Holmes or something.
26:22
Speaker 4: Let's go back to the conversation that you just had
26:24
Speaker 4: with that other woman.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Every night?
26:27
Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
26:29
Speaker 2: Well, do you feel like you're being raped?
26:31
Speaker 6: No, sir.
26:31
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm doing it willingly. I'm just, I just,
26:33
Speaker 3: but this lady finds fault with it. I'm thinking, okay,
26:35
Speaker 3: I'll let her have what she wants, but boy, I
26:37
Speaker 3: can't wait for her to, you know, like not have
26:39
Speaker 3: my shirts pressed because, you know, and I won't take
26:43
Speaker 3: my rings off either.
26:44
Speaker 2: Jesus, dude.
26:46
Speaker 4: Okay, okay.
26:47
Speaker 2: It's like revenge or something.
26:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is ridiculous. Don't you think she's getting her
26:51
Speaker 3: revenge on me by coming out all, you know, like
26:54
Speaker 3: in a lumberjack suit and, you know, You know, I
26:58
Speaker 3: don't want it to be graphic.
26:59
Speaker 2: I've got to say this.
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Speaker 4: I've got to say this. At the previous conversation, I
27:05
Speaker 4: don't think the girl did a very good job of
27:08
Speaker 4: explaining to you what she was saying. She's saying if
27:10
Speaker 4: your wife was legitimately hurting you in the bedroom, if
27:13
Speaker 4: she was legitimately bruising you and making you have pain,
27:17
Speaker 4: then you have a legitimate reason to say, okay, I'm
27:20
Speaker 4: going to do this in response to you. The fact
27:22
Speaker 4: that you don't like bonded, you need to find something
27:24
Speaker 4: a little.
27:24
Speaker 3: Bit more adequate. But I love my wife very much,
27:26
Speaker 3: and I want her to be happy. But, all right,
27:29
Speaker 3: you tell me, am I being abused? I mean, I
27:33
Speaker 3: get done with her. I walk out of the bedroom,
27:35
Speaker 3: I feel like I've been riding a trigger all day long.
27:39
Speaker 3: I mean, literally. And she gets what she wanted, and
27:44
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, fine, great. You know, I took it
27:45
Speaker 3: like a man.
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Speaker 4: You took it like a man. She's got bruises on
27:50
Speaker 4: her face.
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Speaker 3: Excuse me, ma'am. What are you laughing about? I'm the
27:53
Speaker 3: one that had to take this... Rod.
27:55
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, dude. I mean, you know, this is
27:57
Speaker 2: either you like it or you don't. If you like it,
27:59
Speaker 2: then you're fine. If you don't, then she shouldn't be
28:01
Speaker 2: doing it to you.
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Speaker 1: And if she shouldn't be doing it to you, then
28:03
Speaker 1: you shouldn't.
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Speaker 2: Be smacking her.
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Speaker 3: No, you don't understand. We give it to you. If
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Speaker 3: she wants to put it to me like I'm some
28:10
Speaker 3: jail bitch, fine. But I get to, you know. And
28:14
Speaker 3: I'm sorry I balled up my fist, but I swear
28:17
Speaker 3: to God she stepped into it like she was stepping
28:18
Speaker 3: on an elevator.
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Speaker 4: Okay, you're going to say that she stepped into it,
28:21
Speaker 4: but I'm going to say that you unconsciously balled up
28:25
Speaker 4: your fist. That is crap. You don't unconsciously ball up
28:28
Speaker 4: your fist.
28:29
Speaker 3: You make a choice.
28:30
Speaker 4: To take your.
28:30
Speaker 3: Face and shove it into somebody's face. Because you even said.
28:33
Speaker 4: That you put your shoulder behind it.
28:35
Speaker 3: You put your shoulder behind it.
28:38
Speaker 4: You chose to hit her heart.
28:39
Speaker 3: I stepped into it. I didn't say that I didn't
28:41
Speaker 3: choose to hit her heart. What I did say was...
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Speaker 3: I did. I balled up my fist. You know something?
28:49
Speaker 3: What do you know about balling? Are you punching guys
28:51
Speaker 3: out and stuff? No, I don't. All right, then what
28:53
Speaker 3: do you know about it?
28:55
Speaker 4: I did not love at all.
28:56
Speaker 3: I put my shoulder into it. You're right. And I
28:58
Speaker 3: did step into it. You're right. I did not consciously
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Speaker 3: ball up my fist. What kind of.
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Speaker 4: Crap is that? You're saying that you were going to
29:05
Speaker 4: hit her hard, but you're not going to use a fist?
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Speaker 4: Who does that?
29:09
Speaker 3: I don't know. You just told me that you don't
29:10
Speaker 3: hit nobody, so what do you know about it? Obviously,
29:14
Speaker 3: if you've watched an action movie.
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Speaker 4: If you've seen boxing, you can't hit somebody.
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Speaker 3: Hard without a fist. Ma'am, an action movie? Are you
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Speaker 3: trying to tell me that that's true to life, what
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Speaker 3: happens in a bedroom after a woman straps one on?
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 4: What are you talking about, dude? I'm addressing the issue
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Speaker 4: that you would hit her hard on.
29:35
Speaker 3: I don't appreciate being mocked.
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Speaker 2: Sir, come on. You're talking about wanting to ball up
29:39
Speaker 2: your fist. and belt your.
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Speaker 1: No, not wanting to ball up your fist, but smack
29:42
Speaker 1: her after she straps one on.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
29:47
Speaker 1: I mean, at some point, we have to say to ourselves,
29:52
Speaker 1: when can I just get up from that bed and say,
29:53
Speaker 1: you know what, honey, I don't want you to do
29:55
Speaker 1: this anymore, and I'm not enjoying it, and I'm not
29:57
Speaker 1: going to smack you anymore.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'm asking a weird question here, you know.
30:03
Speaker 1: The lady makes a point. You say you leaned into it.
30:06
Speaker 2: You stepped. You put your shoulder into it. You threw
30:09
Speaker 2: a jab. A jab. How do you throw a jab
30:12
Speaker 2: with an open hand, you know?
30:13
Speaker 3: You've never seen two. Okay, this lady, I don't know.
30:16
Speaker 3: Haven't you seen two women slap fight? Thank you.
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Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me with that?
30:23
Speaker 3: She's got. My wife comes out with this thing that
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Speaker 3: she calls the Rod Buster. She's got me dressed up
30:32
Speaker 3: in like a girl's nightgown. Okay, good.
30:35
Speaker 4: That gives you no license to beat the crap.
30:37
Speaker 3: Out of her. Oh, I see. Okay, but she can
30:39
Speaker 3: come out wearing a cowboy hat with a rod buster
30:41
Speaker 3: like I'm about to take it out on the yard. Oh,
30:44
Speaker 3: bull crap. Okay. You know what?
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Speaker 4: Honestly, in your position, you're a man. Why can't you
30:51
Speaker 4: enjoy it? Why can't you be like, heck, this woman
30:53
Speaker 4: wants me? You know? Okay, yay.
30:56
Speaker 3: Are you for real? Are you for real? I mean,
31:01
Speaker 3: that's just plain.
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Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying, if you can find no pleasure
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Speaker 4: in it whatsoever, then.
31:07
Speaker 3: Say, hey, you know what? I do, because it makes
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Speaker 3: her happy. I do, because it makes her happy.
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Speaker 4: No, then you say all you want to do is
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Speaker 4: get out of the room so you can hit her?
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Speaker 3: That's part of the enjoyment of it.
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Speaker 4: No, that's not part of the enjoyment.
31:23
Speaker 3: That's part of your frustration. I want to kick her
31:25
Speaker 3: until she bleeds. Oh, Jesus.
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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
31:29
Speaker 3: No, ma'am. Part of the joy of knowing that my
31:31
Speaker 3: wife's getting what she wants. She wants to get into
31:33
Speaker 3: a cowboy outfit, whatever. You know, she fantasizes that she's some,
31:36
Speaker 3: you know, that she's the, you know, she's some diesel bitch.
31:39
Speaker 3: She's the bitch on the yard. That's fine. But, and
31:42
Speaker 3: then my enjoyment is escaping almost as if I'm an
31:46
Speaker 3: escaped hostage. And then....
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Speaker 4: Okay, well, okay, that's my second issue.
31:52
Speaker 2: See, that's why I got to run. Karis, thank you.
31:54
Speaker 3: No, but no, I want to finish this, Matrini. My
31:56
Speaker 3: enjoyment is I escape like I'm an escape hostage. And,
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Speaker 3: you know, I'm half nude and I'm holding a towel
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Speaker 3: to my rear end. And I kick her until she bleeds.
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Speaker 2: All right, all right. Karis, thank you for your call.
32:09
Speaker 2: What a freaking weirdo. That's part of the enjoyment. That's
32:17
Speaker 2: a great, that's a loving couple. 1-800-449-8686, Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 3: Phil Henry Show, 1-800-449-8686. I'd like to hold you down
32:27
Speaker 3: and just slap away. 1-800-449-8686, the Phil Henry Show is back.
32:33
Speaker 3: Side snap kick.
32:34
Speaker 2: What's a side snap kick?
32:37
Speaker 3: It's a taekwondo type kick where you pivot to the side.
32:43
Speaker 3: You lift your leg up, and then you just do
32:47
Speaker 3: a snap kick to the person's mouth. And I've done that,
32:50
Speaker 3: and I've never touched her. And she says that counts.
32:52
Speaker 3: I said, no, that does not count. If I do
32:54
Speaker 3: a side snap kick, it may look bad, but if
32:57
Speaker 3: I don't touch you, that doesn't count for me to
33:01
Speaker 3: be smacking her if she doesn't do what I tell
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Speaker 3: her to do.
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Speaker 2: Then why do you do it?
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Speaker 4: Just.
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Speaker 3: You know, like I said, because of the Rod Buster.
33:11
Speaker 3: I mean, that's all that goes through my mind all day.
33:15
Speaker 1: The Rod Buster is this sexual device your wife uses
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Speaker 1: on you.
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir. 1-800-449-8686.
33:22
Speaker 2: Let's go to Marissa. Hello, Marissa. You're on The Phil
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Speaker 2: Henry Show.
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Speaker 3: Hi.
33:26
Speaker 6: I just want to say that he commented that the
33:28
Speaker 6: prenuptial agreement indicates that he could slap her across the face.
33:33
Speaker 6: Yet he obviously broke her nose because he.
33:36
Speaker 5: Jabbed her face.
33:37
Speaker 6: Number one, you broke the prenuptial right there. Number two,
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Speaker 6: if all you're thinking about all day long is this
33:43
Speaker 6: Rob Buster, then you never should have made an agreement
33:46
Speaker 6: to this prenuptial, first of all. Second of all, you
33:49
Speaker 6: secretly enjoy what she does to you because you are
33:52
Speaker 6: a wife abuser because you fantasize about abusing your wife,
33:55
Speaker 6: which is totally true.
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Speaker 3: And she doesn't fantasize about abusing me. She doesn't fantasize
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Speaker 3: about being the big bull queen on the yard and
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Speaker 3: she wants to take me down.
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Speaker 4: Between her and you.
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Speaker 3: Ma'am, you don't get it. She's fantasizing about being the
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Speaker 3: big bull queen on the yard.
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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
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Speaker 3: Hold on.
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Speaker 6: A woman doesn't want to be the big bad girl
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Speaker 6: on the yard.
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Speaker 3: But for a man to fantasize about beating his wife,
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Speaker 3: he has his money. He ought to screw.
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Speaker 6: The hell out of you because you're a freaking abuser.
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Speaker 3: Hold on. No, you want me to be an abuser
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Speaker 3: because some guy smacked you around. You are an abuser.
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Speaker 3: You fantasize. Ma'am, you want me to be because some
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Speaker 3: guy smacked you around. How do I know? Maybe you
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Speaker 3: deserved it.
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Speaker 2: Well, hold on for a minute here.
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Speaker 6: First of all, I've never been snatched around because I
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Speaker 6: would never degrade myself to that level.
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Speaker 2: Hold on, folks. Hold on, folks. Now, let's back up
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Speaker 2: here a minute.
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Speaker 1: Marissa's saying that you secretly want to smack your wife because.
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Speaker 3: No, Phil, when I first met my wife and she
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Speaker 3: said that she had this sexual fetish, I said, okay.
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Speaker 3: I didn't start it. She said she had to... I said, okay,
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Speaker 3: but here's what I get to do. I get to
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Speaker 3: smack you. Now, she said, okay. She agreed to that. Now,
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Speaker 3: I admit, I unconsciously balled my fist up and leaned
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Speaker 3: into the punch. And I might even tell you that
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Speaker 3: I enjoyed it.
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Speaker 6: Of course you enjoyed it.
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Speaker 3: You have already admitted it. Well, Marissa, can I just
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Speaker 3: say something, Marissa? If I met you or I was
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Speaker 3: married to you, I'd really enjoy it. Boy. Trust me.
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Speaker 6: If you were married to me, you would never touch me, mister.
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Speaker 3: Oh, lady. Because I would tolerate it, first of all.
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Speaker 3: And I came home to you.
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Speaker 6: Second of all, if I needed to satisfy my sexual fetishes,
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Speaker 6: you wouldn't be the.
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Speaker 4: One I'd do it with.
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Speaker 3: How do you know? You ain't seen me. You ain't
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Speaker 3: seen me take the Rod Buster, so you don't.
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Speaker 2: Oh, come on, will ya?
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Speaker 3: Well, she sounds like the kind of woman who might
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Speaker 3: want to strap one on. And my wife, who wants
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Speaker 3: to be the big bull queer on the block....
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Speaker 1: You guys have got a really strange sexual relationship, man.
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Speaker 1: I mean, do you agree to that?
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Speaker 3: Sure, we're weird. We're real weird. We're real, we're real,
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Speaker 3: we're real, we're real weird.
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Speaker 6: Boy....
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Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686. You're just one more son of a bitch in
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Speaker 3: a long line of son of bitches.
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