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3 Guys Before The Game - WVU Football vs TCU Game Preview (Episode 749) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: And we are back.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome on in. It's three guys before the game. Episode
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  Speaker 1: number 749. West Virginia and the Horned Frogs of TCU.
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  Speaker 1: Saturday high noon here in the east. 11 a.m. in
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  Speaker 1: Fort Worth. We'll break down the game with the boys.
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  Speaker 1: Senator is here. He put extra coal on his statometer.
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  Speaker 1: He had to heat it up. Burning energy, man. He's
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  Speaker 1: just burning energy. Got all the numbers for you. The
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  Speaker 1: dean is here playing hurt. He was questionable, right? On
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  Speaker 1: the three guys injury report, which we have to issue
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  Speaker 1: two days before we record an episode, he went from
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  Speaker 1: doubtful to questionable, and now he is probable.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, those player reports, those injury reports are
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  Speaker 3: always 100% accurate.
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  Speaker 1: They're doing pretty good on us. They're not lying as
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  Speaker 1: much as you would think. It's reduced the line. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I would say. It used to be.
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  Speaker 2: It used to be interesting because it was just a
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  Speaker 2: complete lie.
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  Speaker 1: Complete lie.
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  Speaker 1: Is that right? Is that right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on over here. We ain't playing. Is that right?
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  Speaker 1: Is that right? Oh, really? Yeah. All right. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: we'll jump in here. Football in just a second, plus basketball.
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia is going to play its second exhibition game Friday,
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  Speaker 1: which is we're recording Thursday morning. So coming up tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: And then things just get super busy with hoops Friday night.
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  Speaker 1: And then next Wednesday, and then you'll play basketball for
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  Speaker 1: real a week. Yeah, a week from this coming Monday.
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  Speaker 2: My goodness.
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  Speaker 1: Holy potato salad. It's going to come.
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  Speaker 2: Who are they open with?
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  Speaker 1: Purple Eagles of Niagara. Name the most famous basketball player
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  Speaker 1: from Niagara.
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  Speaker 2: You have to give me hints.
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  Speaker 1: Played in the NBA. Unbelievable world-class baton twirler.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Kelvin Murphy. Oh, really? Kelvin Murphy. Wow. Kelvin Murphy played
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  Speaker 1: at Niagara.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: When Bob Lanier was at St. Bonaventure and Canisius, St.
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  Speaker 1: Bonaventure and Niagara formed what, and they're all there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: relatively geographically close to one another. They, they were called
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  Speaker 1: the little three, like in Philly, you had the big five.
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  Speaker 1: These were the little three and they hate each other.
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  Speaker 1: It's Pitt, Pitt, West Virginia-esque. Like you asked John Beeline today,
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  Speaker 1: cause he was the head coach at Canisius.
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  Speaker 2: St.
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  Speaker 1: Bonnie's, Bonnie's, Bonnie's, Niagara. They don't, they, uh, They don't
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  Speaker 1: like each other. So anyway, Niagara and Greg Paulus, who
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  Speaker 1: we played in NCAA tournament play, the point guard from Duke,
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  Speaker 1: is the head coach. And then things will get started.
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  Speaker 2: We ever get him when he was a quarterback? And
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  Speaker 2: he spent a year as a quarterback at Cuse?
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  Speaker 1: We did play against him and beat him. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: completely forgot that. Yes, he went and became a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: after his days at Duke as a basketballer. He played
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  Speaker 1: football at Syracuse, and we did beat him. He's from Syracuse.
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  Speaker 1: Lined up. He's from Syracuse. Went to Corcoran. No, he
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  Speaker 1: went to Christian Brothers Academy. He went to CBA. He
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  Speaker 1: went to CBA.
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  Speaker 2: So you got a lot of New York info, intel
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  Speaker 2: over there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can hit you. I can hit you with
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  Speaker 1: some of that stuff. All right. So football and basketball
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  Speaker 1: coming up here in just a little bit. But we
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  Speaker 1: start on yesterday's news, a statement released on Wednesday from
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  Speaker 1: the family of former Mountaineer basketball coach Bob Huggins in
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  Speaker 1: conjunction with the University of Cincinnati. And they released... just
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  Speaker 1: a couple of days out before Cincinnati's Hall of Fame induction.
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  Speaker 1: Like West Virginia, they have an annual Hall of Fame induction,
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  Speaker 1: and Huggs will be going into the University of Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and the family issuing a statement that
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  Speaker 1: in essence says that Coach Huggins is dealing with cognitive issues,
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  Speaker 1: and as a result of that, they just wanted folks
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  Speaker 1: to know. They have not made it public up until
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  Speaker 1: this point, But obviously he's going to be put into
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  Speaker 1: the public spotlight this weekend at the University of Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: at that event. And so obviously that instantly becomes not
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  Speaker 1: only a statewide story, that becomes a national story for,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and it's not even an argument, one of
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  Speaker 1: the most successful guys who ever coached the game of
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  Speaker 1: college basketball. When he was done in his coaching, he
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  Speaker 1: at that moment was the most winningest active coach at
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  Speaker 1: that time. And obviously is one of the winningest coaches
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  Speaker 1: in the history of the game of college basketball. And
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  Speaker 1: so guys, uh, as you know, just, uh, an incredibly, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you, you hate to hear it. It, it,
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  Speaker 1: it impacts folks, uh, every day you guys have dealt
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  Speaker 1: with it, uh, with your family members. And it's just a,
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  Speaker 1: just a sad, sad, uh, sad piece of news to hear.
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  Speaker 3: Well, uh, First of all, credit to the family for
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  Speaker 3: being forthright about that because if you're going through that,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Huggins knows a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: There would be a lot of questions. There would be
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  Speaker 2: a lot of speculation.
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  Speaker 3: So now it is out there, and you can honor
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  Speaker 3: the family wishes for privacy, number one. Number two, anybody
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  Speaker 3: who's gone through that knows that is a really tough draw,
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  Speaker 3: and it is obviously– deeply unfortunate and tragic for the
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  Speaker 3: individual going through it and Tony also very tough on
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  Speaker 3: the family to go through that so we wish them
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  Speaker 3: a wish them the best during what will be what
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  Speaker 3: already is and what will be a difficult time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah and the risk of repeating that's exactly where I
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  Speaker 4: was going to go obviously incredibly sad for him and
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  Speaker 4: certainly what he has meant to the game of basketball
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  Speaker 4: and so he's got a he's got a very tough
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  Speaker 4: road ahead and you certainly think about June and Jackie
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  Speaker 4: and Jenna and you're right Hop it's a That's going
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  Speaker 4: to be difficult upon them and everybody around him that
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  Speaker 4: cares about him as they move forward. So certainly a
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  Speaker 4: sad story yesterday to hear and certainly thinking of all
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  Speaker 4: of them, including Coach Huggins.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so we jump in here. West Virginia on
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  Speaker 1: the road coming up on Saturday. As I said, it's
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  Speaker 1: the high noon game. And for WVU, it's the eighth
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  Speaker 1: game in a row, which personally has me concerned. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how many times you can go to GoMart, Brad,
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  Speaker 1: but sometimes your tank gets empty. You can't wait everything, right?
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  Speaker 1: You try to get the triple rewards points. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: little worried here that emotionally doing it eight straight times,
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  Speaker 1: that's hard. TCU had its bye week a week ago,
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  Speaker 1: so they were off. And then they played last weekend
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  Speaker 1: at Baylor, which isn't far. And then now they're back home.
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  Speaker 1: So that's my concern. Not so much that You know,
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  Speaker 1: as my buddy Dwight Wallace often says, you know, guys
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  Speaker 1: that run 4-4 in September in the first week, that
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  Speaker 1: 4-4 becomes about 4-6-2 when October rolls around and you
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  Speaker 1: start to get banged up. So that's a concern for me.
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  Speaker 1: But emotionally, I think they're ready to go. And on paper,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be the first to say, Brad, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to get into your numbers. But obviously, I'll just keep
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  Speaker 1: it super generic. It is really too paradoxical. of success
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  Speaker 1: on one side of the spectrum. One team can really
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  Speaker 1: run it. One team can really stop the run. That's
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  Speaker 1: all I'll go. That's all I'm going to go.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you can go a little further on that.
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  Speaker 4: We will get into these numbers. But I think that's
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  Speaker 4: why this is such a fascinating matchup. It's great on
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  Speaker 4: great when you talk about West Virginia's offense and TCU's defense.
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  Speaker 4: And it's really struggling against really struggling when it's TCU's
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  Speaker 4: offense and West Virginia's defense.
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  Speaker 2: So what carries the day?
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  Speaker 4: Does the struggle get a little bit less for one
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  Speaker 4: of those units and that wins it? Or does the
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  Speaker 4: great best the other great?
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  Speaker 2: And that's what wins.
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  Speaker 4: So I think this is a wild matchup because of
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  Speaker 4: the polar opposite.
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  Speaker 2: That each of these units brings to the table.
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  Speaker 3: Would you say strength on strength and weakness on weakness?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know there's any other way to say it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's exactly what it is. But the strength on strength
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  Speaker 4: is like really strength on strength, right? These are two
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  Speaker 4: of the best units, one of the best defensive units,
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  Speaker 4: not only in this league, maybe in the country. We
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  Speaker 4: certainly know what West Virginia's offense has been doing. coming
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  Speaker 4: in with the best dual threat quarterback in the entire country.
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  Speaker 4: So fascinated to watch this one.
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  Speaker 1: And throw into that mix, and we probably haven't been
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  Speaker 1: making enough of this. In fact, Cam Cook, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he played there for two years. And on paper, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what else was going on there offensively at
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  Speaker 1: the time, but was underutilized and did not get a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot in two years. Goes to Jacksonville State, and
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  Speaker 1: he explodes, goes over 1,600 yards. a year ago, and
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  Speaker 1: now he sits in here at 833 yards going into
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  Speaker 1: Saturday's game.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: He was on this show with us and talked about
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  Speaker 4: that and said he just didn't do enough research coming
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  Speaker 4: out of high school about the system and the fit,
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  Speaker 4: and it wasn't necessarily the right fit for him offensively.
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  Speaker 4: And I thought that was in sharp contrast to what
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  Speaker 4: he said when he came here, and he said he
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  Speaker 4: specifically picked West Virginia because Rick Trickett was here and
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  Speaker 4: he knew what that offensive line would do and how
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  Speaker 4: that would help his career. So you're talking about a
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  Speaker 4: young guy that figured the thing out and matured in
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  Speaker 4: his approach.
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  Speaker 2: Cam Cook certainly fits that bill. Yeah, you're exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: Here was his quote on three guys.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you went back and quoted him? Yeah. That big
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  Speaker 1: J journalist right there, like direct quote.
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  Speaker 3: When I was a senior in high school, I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: looking for what kind of play style fits me and
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  Speaker 3: what was good for me. I just think that the
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  Speaker 3: play style hadn't fit how I wanted to play. It's
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  Speaker 3: what he said on three guys, and just as you said, Brad. And, boy, oh, boy,
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  Speaker 3: I think he fits at West Virginia because Rich Rod
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  Speaker 3: will give you the football.
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  Speaker 1: 168 carries through seven games? Yeah. Yeah, he'll give you
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  Speaker 1: the ball. Two seasons at TCU, he played a total
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  Speaker 1: of nine games. He had 16 carries and 59 yards
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  Speaker 1: as a freshman. His sophomore year, they used him. Pretty
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  Speaker 1: good indicator of what was in store. As a sophomore,
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  Speaker 1: he had 119 carries, scored nine touchdowns, and gained 460 yards.
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  Speaker 2: Led the team in touchdowns that year in terms of
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  Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: And then he explodes when he goes to Jacksonville State, 1,659
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  Speaker 1: yards on 295 carries. And what was the over-under on
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  Speaker 1: his number of carries? 270 this season?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think about 265, somewhere in there.
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  Speaker 2: I think if he gets, like, two against TCU, he's
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  Speaker 2: over the 300 mark, right? Are we close to that?
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  Speaker 3: Because you said, Brad, when you said 270, we all went, oh, 270,
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  Speaker 3: that's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure he can get 270. He might, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he might get.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if one thing.
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  Speaker 2: Hawkins is going to get three.
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  Speaker 1: If one thing we've relearned this season... What?
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  Speaker 2: Rich.
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  Speaker 1: Rich will run a play now. He'll give it to you.
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  Speaker 1: He'll give it. Rich will. You show him, and Rich
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  Speaker 1: will take care of you.
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  Speaker 3: And now that you're running 100 offensive plays a game.
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  Speaker 2: That helps.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that helps.
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  Speaker 2: But that's why.
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  Speaker 4: So he and Hawkins are just so critical this week
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  Speaker 4: against a TCU defense that has been tremendous against the run.
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  Speaker 4: So this is one of those great. Listen, the numbers
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  Speaker 4: are starting to mature a little bit. So some of
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  Speaker 4: these numbers mean a lot more than they did four
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  Speaker 4: weeks ago. But you also still, I find myself giving
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  Speaker 4: the disclaimer that Well, I'll tell you what, TCU hadn't
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  Speaker 4: seen an offense.
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  Speaker 2: Like this, right?
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  Speaker 4: That's the difference in terms of tempo, the dual nature
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  Speaker 4: of Cook and Hawkins, the dual nature of Hawkins in himself,
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  Speaker 4: and just how much pause does that give TCU what
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  Speaker 4: you did last week, where you looked out and you
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  Speaker 4: would have felt really good if you're TCU coming in like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, we're good run stoppers, we'll stop your run.
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  Speaker 4: But then you turn around and throw for almost five bills.
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  Speaker 4: Now you got a little something extra to look for
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  Speaker 4: on tape. So that'll be, again, a fun matchup.
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  Speaker 1: Before we say anything that's just blatantly clear, we have
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  Speaker 1: to go to Hoppy because we don't want to ruin
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  Speaker 1: any of his obvious observations.
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  Speaker 2: Most we've done already.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Boom.
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  Speaker 1: Setting the over-under at one and a half on how
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  Speaker 1: many times Hoppy says Brad. Now, I certainly don't want
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  Speaker 1: to get into your numbers because those will be coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Hop.
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  Speaker 3: First, Tony, I don't want to get into anything you said,
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  Speaker 3: but that was the first thing I had, is that
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  Speaker 3: you're going into game eight without a week off.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that was already one of yours? That's okay. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think we should start meeting before we start recording?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that would be something new, but... So that, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it takes us so long. You don't have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of serious, you got a couple injuries, but still, you're
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  Speaker 3: banged up, man. You're tired, banged up in your enthusiasm,
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  Speaker 3: and then you got a week off. It would be
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  Speaker 3: great to get a win here for obvious reasons, plus
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  Speaker 3: then get a week off before you got to go
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  Speaker 3: to Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 4: If you want the positive slant to eight straight, because
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  Speaker 4: you're right, it's a difficult sport, you're getting beat up.
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  Speaker 4: The positive slant, maybe do you get a little energy
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  Speaker 4: bump because you know Spring break is coming, right? So
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  Speaker 4: it's easier to go to class because you know what
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  Speaker 4: happens when class is over today?
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  Speaker 2: We're done and we get a week off.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe sometimes as a player, there's a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of a bump there because coming just after.
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  Speaker 2: This, there's going to be a little bit of a break.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe. Well, you're searching, but that's okay. That's okay.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to give you a little something. I understand. But
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  Speaker 2: at least you're coming off a win going into this game.
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  Speaker 2: So that.
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  Speaker 1: Red.
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  Speaker 4: Red.
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  Speaker 3: You will get into the numbers. However it is, strength
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  Speaker 3: on strength and weakness on weakness. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 3: a Horned Frog team. They've given up, what, 12 points
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  Speaker 3: a game?
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  Speaker 1: 13-ish, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And they've only given up eight touchdowns. West Virginia needs
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  Speaker 3: to score like eight a game. So they held BYU
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  Speaker 3: to under 300 yards.
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  Speaker 1: Elite.
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  Speaker 3: So at this point in the season, Brad, you were
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  Speaker 3: talking about now the numbers mean more. So they are
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  Speaker 3: legitimately established as elite.
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  Speaker 2: Fair?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. It's been an elite defense. All right. TCU has
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  Speaker 2: struggled to score points.
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  Speaker 3: Their transfer quarterback from Harvard has a degree in economics
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  Speaker 3: from Harvard.
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  Speaker 2: Think about that for a second.
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  Speaker 3: You don't hear that often in football parlance, right? And
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  Speaker 3: he has an economics degree from Harvard, but he does.
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  Speaker 3: Running game has been... Not very good for them, and
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  Speaker 3: their running backs hurt. So, you know, we'll see. WVU opened,
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  Speaker 3: and Brad and I talked about this yesterday. Tony, that
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  Speaker 3: doesn't count.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't count. We talked about it yesterday. It doesn't count.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: No.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: I called Brad. I said, wait a minute. West Virginia opened.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: There's a six-and-a-half-point dog. Now they're a nine-and-a-half-point dog. Brad,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: what happened?
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Well, under a touchdown.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: You're getting a home team under a touchdown, playing a
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: team that hasn't shown– the ability to stop anybody yet. Okay.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about West Virginia's defense because we haven't talked
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: about that yet.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: This year. We've talked about it a few times.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: A couple of things from the press conferences this week.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Rich Rod said, we're trying to find out what our
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: guys can do. We've got better players than we're showing.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: We've got better coaches than we're showing. Key phrase, trying
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: to find out what guys can do. Zach Alley, you
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: can't expect to get pushed over three gaps from where
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: you started and expect to stop the run. The fundamentals
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: still have to get fixed in that regard, still trying
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: to fix the things that are glaringly wrong. Tony, you're
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: going into Game 8, and you're talking about things that
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: you often talk about after Game 1 or 2.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: True?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, and there has got to be some incredible mental...
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: stress and fatigue on this defense in the sense that
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: they're beaten down right now, right? No matter where they turn,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: they are beaten down. They've been beaten down off the
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: field by the criticism. Obviously, within the meeting rooms and
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: things like that, they're being told constantly, guys, you guys
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: aren't getting it done. So there is a legitimate mental
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: fatigue or stressed out. So the question becomes, This is
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: the danger. You give up a big play. Have you
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: gotten to the point is, oh, here we go again,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: and you don't have the proper mental set to say,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: blank these guys, we're going to stop them. That's what's
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: a concern.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: We said that same thing going into last week. I
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: think what would concern me, you're well past a motivation
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: issue here. You can't give up in a let's go
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: hit somebody hard speech and have any impact whatsoever.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: This is.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: There's X and O problems. There's execution problems. There's all
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: of it right now for the fourth consecutive week. There
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: wasn't even a glimmer last week until Ben Cutter stopped
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: a third down and a fourth down. One individual guy
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: made two huge plays at the end. Probably won the
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: game for him.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Where all you needed to tip the scales right there.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: So this is a group that it's not just a, hey, refocus, guys,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: and get into it. And you give a little bit
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: of oomph to them. And they go out and they
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: hit somebody in the face. It's well past that at
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: this point.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: And you mentioned Ben Cutter, and Zach Alley said he's
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: been the most consistent player defensively for this team.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: And he did.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, you look for guys that make a difference,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: and he made a difference in that game.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: On back-to-back plays. Back-to-back plays, exactly. You know, Prince Strawn's
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: a great story, isn't he?
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, here's a guy from the Bahamas, didn't play
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: football early, and his dad played, and he sort of taught.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Him the game as he was growing up.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: And then there was the hurricane that caused so much
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: damage to the Bahamas. And he came to the U.S.,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: was separated from his family, just in this circuitous route
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: to get to West Virginia. Then was hurt, has been
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: hurt a couple of times. How has he performed in
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: the last couple of games?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: He's had two really big games.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Pretty.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: It's a great family story. Brother plays at the University
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: of Charleston, ends up in the NFL, and Prince then
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: comes here. The catch down the sideline was obviously massive.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: That gave you a chance to go win it. But
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: his one right after that might have been just as big.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Catch it and move you down right into field goal range.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: So he hasn't played a lot. Early in the season
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: was hampered. Has had two games where he's been like
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: a dude. He's really helped you.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: And that will refocus TCU's defense now. They'll legitimately have
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: to say, OK, when this guy comes out, You got
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: a situation here.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: And you don't, you never know.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, there was such an incredible passing performance by
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Hawkins in that game, and you don't know if you
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: can carry that forward, especially against a good defense.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: But, boy, you were.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Encouraged by his passing game and by Strawn and by Epps,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: by Bray, Traw, all those guys. Ryan Ward. I mean,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: you're just so much better in the receiving core, you know?
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: So that's encouraging. One of the things that Rich Rodriguez
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: started his press conference this week by talking about Ike Morris. And,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: you know, we all know Ike Morris. I think West
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Virginia is a small state. Everybody knows who Ike Morris is.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: And he was the very successful oil and gas guy
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: all his life and a significant benefactor to Glenville where
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Rich Rod coached. And Rich Rod remained very, very close
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: to him. Talked to him all the time.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: All the time.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: All the time.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: And Rich Rod said, of all the people that Coach
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Rodriguez has been around, he said that Ike Morris was
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: the most influential person in his life.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Heck of a statement. Yeah, when you say that.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: And Ike Morris is, they're having a private funeral later,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: but there's a memorial service today, and Rich Rod will
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: be a pallbearer at that today.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Rick Trickett really close to him. Travis Trickett close
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: to him as well.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: He was the best man in Rick Trickett's wedding. Oh,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: was he?
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, it's amazing.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about this here for just a second. It
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: really is amazing to me of, of the two schools
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: that Ike is so closely tied to.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And he helped a lot.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: But the Mountaineers and the Pioneers, and the reason WVU
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: is going down there is in large part to Ike.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: And this is the week he passes away.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: And you're going to have the celebration of life today
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: in that Waco Center. And the Mountaineers are going to
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: turn around and roll in tomorrow. It's breathtaking, the timing
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: of that. And we had Bob Bolin, the Glendale State coach,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: on last night on Sportsline. He said, you know, if
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: glenville state was taking on the ucla of the john
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: wooden days i know ike would be up there tipping
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: in a bunch of balls for us he goes playing
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: the mountaineers i'm not so sure how many he's going
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: to tip in for us maybe we get one more
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: because he certainly loved the mountaineers like he loved the
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: the pioneers so just that'll be an emotional night tomorrow
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: when west virginia rolls into that building with everything going
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: on down there.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: And just a very generous benefactor i mean what he
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: did for glenville and the wv2 but it was just
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: a tremendous benefactor i thought richard said something interesting that
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Ike Morris was just as comfortable with presidents and kings
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: as he was with.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: The people who were providing the service at a dinner.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. That's what he was.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: That kind of guy.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: That's what he was.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And finally, Tony.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Here we go. Here comes a heater.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: On this day. Oh, boy. Oh, on this day, October 22nd, 1904.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: The WVU football team lost to Michigan.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, this was the day?
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: 130 to nothing.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Fielding Yost in that game?
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Fielding Yost was the WVU graduate, Marion County, West Virginia native,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: was the head coach.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Ran it up a bit. Ran it up a bit.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: And according to WVU sports historian John Antonik.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Antonik just despises Fielding Yost. Despises him.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: That supposedly late in the game, when WVU got a
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: big run and was threatening to score, supposedly Yost said,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: to his young men, get out there and stop those
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: hillbillies from scoring.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And he was from West Virginia.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: He was from Marion County, graduate of WVU, but certainly
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: his significance in sports history was at Michigan. As a
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: coach and athletic director, he was there for like four
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: decades and the guy who built the.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Stadium originally at Michigan. So Fielding Yost.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Fielding, a nickname. Hurry up.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Hurry up, Yost.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: They were hurrying up that day when they ran 130.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: They were playing jet. Beat us 130 to nothing.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: 130 to nothing.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: One bad call to the side of that dog. When
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: their athletic director called and said, you guys want to play?
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: That was one bad call.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: There was some officiating opinion. But West Virginia actually finished
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: something like 6-4. I mean, they didn't have a bad team.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: It's just Michigan was 11-0, and Fielding Yost was off
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: and running with that Michigan team.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Well, he plays into that statistic. If you take the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: national championships that he won, that John Robinson, who also
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: is from the Monongalia-Marion County line, Nick Saban won, and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: then you go to Harrison County and Jimbo's national championship,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and then you go to Upshur County and you go
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: with a gentleman, Mumford, last name, won national championships at
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: historical black colleges. There's no counties in the country that
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: touch each other that have won more football national championships. Really? Yeah.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Tony, I know that we talked about this briefly, but
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: you guys haven't watched the Saban thing yet, right?
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: No.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: You liked it? It is really, really good.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Especially, they do a whole segment on him growing up
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: in Monongah and his dad and how his dad rode
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: him pretty hard.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: It is fascinating. Fascinating.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: If you want to know why Nick Saban is the
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: way he is... Watch this and you'll understand.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: That's good. It's all good. There you go.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: It's all good.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: And you went under on the one and a half. Brad,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get into Brad's numbers. You did
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: well on that.
• 25:28
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• 25:29
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• 26:58
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 26:59
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• 27:03
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• 27:29
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• 27:32
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• 27:34
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  Speaker 2: You're going to stop in and see the boys?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Might stop in. Might stop in.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: You're going to see how that trip was for Lou.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Last time we were there, he was debarking.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: He was going on. He was taking a stir. He's
• 28:07
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• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Is that a word, debarking?
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you debark.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Disembark.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Disembark. Thank you. Well, you got to embark at some
• 28:14
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: And then you disembark.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: You don't debark.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: No. No, you embark.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: We'll go down and ask him how the trip was.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I might go back to the burrito place.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Well, that's very good.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's Happy Burrito. What was it? Happy, what was it?
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Bad Happy Burrito.
• 28:42
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• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Hurricane. Hurricane.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I might do that.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Right off the main road there. Yeah.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I know where it is. I mean, once I get there,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: it'll be easy. That'll be easy. Go by Brian Prim's
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: office out there.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: You'll certainly order too much food when.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: You get there. I need to, yeah. I'm traveling with
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: people I don't normally travel with. Oh, you are?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: You have other people?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I have, yeah. That won't stop you. It's like, I
• 29:04
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• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Well, we mentioned the differing philosophies. I think that's what
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: makes this game so intriguing. Hoppy, it's like TCU wants
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: to try and get to 17 and hold you to 14.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: West Virginia's saying, we're going to try and score 45
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: and then we'll hold on. We'll just try and hold
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: on to the rope there at the end. So which
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: of those, as we mentioned, which of those comes to fruition?
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: This TCU defense, as you look at them on a
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: down-to-down basis, so they're EPA allowed. They're expected points added
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: per play, fifth nationally.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Wow. Their success rate, again, down-to-down success, sixth nationally. So
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: down-to-down sustained drives against them have been difficult. Well, that's
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, West Virginia likes to big play and explosive you.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: So certainly TCU's explosive defensive stats aren't in that same realm,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: except that they are. Tenth nationally in explosiveness allowed, and
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: that's really probably the key matchup if you want to
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: niche it down. The two best units on the field,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: TCU defense, tenth nationally in explosiveness allowed, going against a
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: West Virginia offense that is top 20 in that category.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: 30-second timeout. Please define explosiveness allowed.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Well, runs of 10 yards or more, passes of 15
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: yards or more.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: They give them up?
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: They do not. They do not. 10th nationally in least
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: that are allowed.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Not allowing them. Yeah. That's a deceiving terminology.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: So I was saying when you're 5th and 6th in
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: EPA in success, you think, okay, well, maybe we can
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: big play you. But you haven't been able to against TCU.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: They are across the board every metric. elite defensively.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Ask Baylor.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: And West Virginia is the exact opposite. They are elite
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: offensively in all those other areas. One little thing, if
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: you're trying to look, as we mentioned, the tempo is
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: going to be different. The tempo against a run team
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: is going to be different. Hawkins' ability to do both
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: is going to be different.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Than what they faced.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: And they just haven't faced a team that wants to
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: run it this much. 55% pass, 45% run have been
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: TCU's opponents. So like last week, they're coming off a
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Jake Spavitol performance. Offensive coordinator at Baylor used to be here.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: They threw it 53 times last week. So you're likely
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: going to get the opposite approach this week, although West
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Virginia showed last week it can put it up as well.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: UCF and BYU are the two really good rush offenses
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: that TCU has faced. Again, probably not at the level
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: of what Michael Hawkins in particular has been playing. Flip
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: it around to the other side, and this is a classic, yes,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: TCU's offense has been struggling, but No unit is struggling
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: more than West Virginia's defense. So I think it's hard, Hoppy,
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: to just sit and take the normal slant of this
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: is a TCU offense that hasn't quite figured it out.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: They're having a load of offensive line problems. That's probably
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: the surprise. Sonny Dyke said this summer might be the
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: best offensive line he's ever had since he's been there.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: And they are far from that. In fact, they're one
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: of the worst in the league. They gave up 10
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: TFLs just last week against Baylor. They're last in the
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Big 12 in sacks allowed. They're last in the Big
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: 12 in rush yards. So stop right there. This is,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: to me, that's the crux of this game, is can
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: West Virginia actually slow somebody's run game down? Because they
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: haven't the last four weeks, and now nothing's working. And
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: you heard Zach Alley say that earlier this week, said
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: we're not stopping the run, therefore everything cascades from there.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: And it's a wild drop-off, guys. You did pretty well
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: against Virginia. First couple drives against Virginia, they did get
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: some big gash running plays. And then you kind of
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: close the spigot off there. And we're pretty good. And
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: now it's just fallen off the cliff defensively. So you
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: get a team that's struggling to run behind a struggling
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: offensive line. They made some lineup changes last week, did TCU.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Is this a game where West Virginia's defensive line can
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: hold that line and the linebackers can fit and you
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: can at least close off the run and make them
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: have to go to the air?
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: And I'll get to that in a second.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: I think that's probably the most critical part of this
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: defensive game plan. stop the run, make them put it
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: up in the air, and then that's where you've got
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: to have some success. Now, they've got a receiver back
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: in Jordan Dwyer last week that I think makes a
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: big difference to this offense. He went for 150 last week.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: So they've got a couple receivers, they've got a talented
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: tight end, and Jaden Craig has not been the issue,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: the Harvard transfer quarterback. He has been very good, completing
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: nearly 70% of his passes. So I'm a little bit
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: concerned for West Virginia that it's a TCU offense whose
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: numbers are deflated And it might be a little bit
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: better than what it's looked. And a Western defense that
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: just hasn't shown any life for four weeks. So anxious
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: to watch how they do right there. TCU runs more
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: outside zone than any team in power four.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: You know who's second?
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Do you get some benefit from that? I mean, again,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: that's a very generic term, outside zone. There's going to
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: be a lot of different formations, different ways to get
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: to it. But at least you're facing teams back to
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: back from a running style that try and do the
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: same thing. two of the most frequent users of outside
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: zone in Power 4. You want to buy into that
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: narrative at all? Does that help you at all?
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Maybe.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: You're looking for something.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: You're just looking for something to try and slow down
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: an offense here.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Just get a couple stops, right?
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: That's the thing, though, Hop. Last week we said that
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: going in. Get a stop. I don't know that a
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: couple stops do it here.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: That's the problem.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: You're just going to flat out have to take a
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: massive leap defensively and play a heck of a lot
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: better in order to win this game because i do
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: think you you will have some challenges defensively that you
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: haven't faced to this point.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: You probably need five to six stops really i think
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: so don't you right.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Five to six likely yeah i it does appear this
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: tcu defense isn't just propped up by numbers that it
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: is in fact really good and it and it's up
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: front too they're This is going to be a big
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: offensive line for West Virginia against a really talented defensive line.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: This is not one, in my opinion, as we sit
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: here on Thursday, that you can go in and say,
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: as an offensive line, oops, I got biased. Hey, Mike,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: make something happen. I think this offensive line now in
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: its eighth game has to come together and gel and
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: move some dudes up front.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: And did not have a great game last week.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Not running the ball. Now, pass protection, they really did.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: I think that's the next evolution for this offensive line is,
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: You have got to move some people up front. And again,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: you're at the point now in the season where if
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: you're going to, it should start to happen. But it's
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: going to be a big challenge. And that's kind of
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: as I start to go through keys or big questions,
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: that's first and foremost. So let's dive into some of
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: those numbers on the run defense specifically against West Virginia's
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: rush offense. TCU's rush defense, third nationally in EPA per play.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: You get a rushing attack from West Virginia that's fifth
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: nationally in yards per game at 272. TCU just giving
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: up 92 yards per game, and opponents are averaging under
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: three yards per carry. So watch those numbers as they
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: start to pile up. Cincinnati, did they provide a blueprint
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: last week in the run game? Because they did as
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: good a job of anybody we've seen at slowing West
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Virginia's run game. Now, they gave up a billion pass yards,
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: but I think if you're Cincinnati, you went into that
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: game saying, if we can shut that running game down,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: we feel good. They did, but they still got the loss.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: BYU did run it for 154 on the Frogs. I
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: don't know that that's enough. I think this has to
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: be 225 minimum and then get some pass yards along
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: with it. TCU's only given up two rushing plays of
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: 20 yards or more all season. So those big explosives
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: on the ground haven't necessarily been there. TCU's only allowing 1.2
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: yards before contact and two and a half yards after contact,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: which is the third best among power four. So they're
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: not letting you get a big running start, and they're
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: getting you on the ground once they hit you. So
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: real challenge for West Virginia's offense this week. Second part
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: of this, put some numbers to what we just mentioned
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: with this West Virginia defense. Opposing quarterbacks are just having
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: career days since Big 12 play started. Mestemaker and Fafita,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: all right, you can kind of see that. I think
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: that's two of the best quarterbacks in this league, two
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: of the better.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Ones in the country.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: And Hop, I do mean this with all due respect
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: to French and Jalen Rayner. but they're not in that category,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: and they both went bananas as well. Now comes Jaden Craig,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: 67% of his passes this season he's completed, 10 touchdown passes.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: He has thrown five picks, so keep that in mind.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: We'll come back to that in a second. TCU's passing offense,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: 72nd nationally in EPA, so they haven't necessarily been wildly
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: explosive as a pass offense. Again, I mentioned I think
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: that changes maybe with Dwyer back a little bit, but
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: you're getting a West Virginia defense. that has been nearly
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: the worst in the country when it comes to explosive
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: pass rates. Second from the bottom in power four in
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: explosive pass plays given up. So it's one of those
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: TCU hasn't done it a ton. West Virginia is giving
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: up a lot. Let's go back to last week. We
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: mentioned that Cincinnati just simply didn't throw the ball down
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: the field. What'd they do on their very first play
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: of the game?
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Deep.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Threw it downfield. So they looked at that film and said,
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: we don't do this. Guess what we're going to try
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: and do today? We're going to test you and go deep.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: So I would expect TCU does the same thing. Here's
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: what I think is the key for West Virginia's defense.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: TCU is 26th in success rate on standard downs, which
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: is really good. So play-to-play success when it's a standard down.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: First and 10, second and 7, third and 4, fourth
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: and 1. But just 130th out of 138 teams in
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: passing down success rate. That's where that struggling offensive line
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: comes into play. So West Virginia's defensive pressure rate, believe
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: it or not, guys, is about average in the power four.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: It surprises me. It does surprise you. But here's where
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: here's where.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: It comes in the passing success rate is dead last
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: among power four teams and your sack rate is really
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: low so you're getting some pressure but not enough to
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: get home and make a difference And so that is,
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: if you're looking for something, you're not going to make
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: a massive leap this week. But can you make a
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: little bit of a leap and get some pressure against
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: what has been a struggling offensive line and not just
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: get the pressure that you've been getting at an okay rate,
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: certainly better than all your other metrics, and actually get
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: home and hit him and make him make a mistake? That's,
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: I think, if you're trying to look for a little
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: bit of a nuance in their offense, that's it. Get
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: to their struggling offensive line, hit him, and come up
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: with a pick here. So you don't have to stop
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: an elite offense here. You just have to stop a
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: regular offense from being elite. And I think that's what
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: some of the teams, Cincinnati and Iowa State in particular,
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: have done against you. You've taken an offense that's been
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: all right or an Iowa State's below all right and
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: made them look elite. Can you just stop that this week?
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: West Virginia's offense needs to keep finding those explosive pass plays.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: This is one of the good on good matchups we
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: talked about. West Virginia continues to sit, guys, eighth game
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: of the season and still second nationally an explosive pass rate.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: And you're getting that TCU defense that's 10th in explosive
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: play rate allowed. West Virginia, as we know, wants to
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: push it downfield. 11 yards per attempt on pass plays.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Really good.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Pushing it downfield. That's second nationally. You're getting a TCU
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: defense that's 15th nationally, only allowing six yards per attempt.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: So that would tell you that you're going to have
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: to hit underneath, which is the game plan you used
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: last week. Do you have to reinvent that this time?
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: The Frogs held BYU to 62 yards passing. And this
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: past week, they held DJ Lagway to 22 of 53.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: So they have been really good. You are going to
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: get a ton of pressure from TCU. Offensive line has
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: to come up big.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: In this game.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: TCU's defense is built to create negative plays. So Hawkins
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: is built to create positive plays out of what looks
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: like it.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Can be a negative play.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: West Virginia is third nationally among power four teams in
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: scramble yards per carry, over 10 yards per play. So
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: that's something else to watch. When they bring that pressure,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: is he able to actually escape? And now here comes
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: some big plays. Or are they able to get him
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: on the ground? TCU's defense gives up an average of
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: seven yards per play on scrambles. So they've given up
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: a few in that area. You mentioned that betting line.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: It has ticked up to 10. Now total sitting at
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: 56 and a half. So the odds makers think this
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: is what? 34-23, which if you just step out for
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: a second, you asked why the line is what it is.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: That's probably given what you've said on metrics. And the
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: slant always is what? Great defenses stop great offenses. And
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: West Virginia's struggling defense against a struggling offense probably thinks
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: you can put some points up. So 34-23 is probably
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: how they landed on that number.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: So we'll see. Those are really good numbers. Here's the... So.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: The TCU offense, can you count on them? We talk
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: a lot, Tony, about the defense has to be able
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: to make plays. The defense has to be better. Can
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: we count on the TCU offense just to be bad
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: even though the defense is not good?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: No.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: I'm jumping in here. You've got to force them to
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: be bad. That's why I highlighted that pressure area. So
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: can you shut off the run, force them into a
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: third and eight, now come with pressure and actually get
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: home to Craig or affect him and get a turnover.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: I think absent of that, TCU coming out, this quarterback
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: certainly is talented enough that if you're not putting pressure
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: on him, he's going.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: To pick you apart.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: He's already throwing it at 70% completion, and they haven't
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: been good. So if you're not going to get to him,
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: then no, I don't think there's any expectation that this
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: offense doesn't perform. This, to me, has to be you
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: better get better defensively this week against those two areas
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: or you've got no chance.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: They have not scored more than 17 points against a
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: power four team.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: It's incredible.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: They scored 10 against the North Carolinas, 13 against the UCFs.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: They scored 10 against the BYUs, and they won last
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: week scoring 17 against the Baylors.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: But they held the Baylor to two field goals, right?
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: They did. They've given up 15 to UNC. They gave
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: up 21 to UCF on the road. They gave up
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: 17 to BYU, which in all likelihood is going to
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: win this thing. And they gave up six to the Baylors.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Here's the deal.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: The difference is Hawkins, number one. You didn't name anybody
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: in there that is remotely close to Hawkins. Bear Bachmeier
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: is really good. BYU is excellent. So that gives you
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: some pause. But they have not faced Hawkins. Does he
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: have another Superman performance in him?
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: That's the thing. You are asking him, guys, to be
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: one of the best players in college football.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: All the time.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: Every single week. Not like, hey, Mike, go have a
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: good game. Like, no, go have a Heisman-type game again
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: this week after you've strung together about seven of them.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: It's unrealistic.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: That's the fear.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: It's unrealistic. Sure it is. I mean, it's unrealistic. I mean,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: every single week you have to go do things that
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: they go into the record books and say that's never
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: done before. You can't do that every week. Let me
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: say this. Help him defensively. He's also going home. He's
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: from Dallas.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: So that is, I think, significant for both. You have
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: to steal possessions in this game. You have to get
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: a turnover. You have to make a special teams play.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: You have to do something to get a possession. It's
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: almost a given. You've got to do something out of
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the box in this game.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: You know, the other thing is that against Cincinnati, Cincinnati
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: was prepared to do what, Tony?
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Stop the run. And they did.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: So the first half, they're... They didn't need to make
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: second-half adjustments because they were stopping the run. They weren't
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: prepared for Hawkins to come out and throw for 400
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: yards in the second half.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: No, they just said, hey, if you're going to beat us,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: you're going to beat us with his arm.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: But now TCU, with a good defense, has had a
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: week to prepare and say, oh, we've got to be
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: ready for this, too.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's nearly impossible in sports at this level
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: to take everything away. That's why you play the percentages,
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: and Cincinnati's plan was great. If you're going to stop
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: West Virginia, the conventional wisdom is you better stop their
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: run game. You hold the run game to what Cincinnati did.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: That's a win most times. And Hawkins just gave them a,
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: is that right? And I'm going to attack this particular area.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: And that's why we talked about the play calling and
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: the patience and the acceptance of that from West Virginia's
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: offense to say, OK, that's what's available. We're going to
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: take it all day long and you can't stop that.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: So that to me is, yes, you've got to do
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: some of that this week. There'll be something available to you.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Can you execute it?
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: To me, this is.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: More about this is the one time over the last.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: You're asking the defense, help us here. Come along, and
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: someone makes some plays over on that side of the ball.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: against an offensive line that has let other teams through
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: to get to the quarterback. They are one of the
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: bottom teams in the country in sack rate against. You've
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: got to go do that. Holloman, Zeke Durham-Campbell, Gabriel, show
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: up and hit the quarterback right in the face and
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: get a couple turnovers. And I think if you don't,
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: then it might be a long day there in Fort Worth.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: Defense has to help you.
• 46:46
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  Speaker 2: There's only seven teams, power four-wise, that have a worse
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: pressure rate allowed than TCU. Okay?
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: You want to know who one of them is? Who? Virginia.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: So we talked about how you slowed them against the run,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: especially early downs, forced them into passing situations, and what'd
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: you do? You lit up Bo Pribula, right? We talked about, ah,
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: what great pressure, what great run fits. So if you
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: want to look for a profile that is somewhat similar,
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: a team that's struggling to run it, Slow the run.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: A team that gives up a lot of pressure on
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: the quarterback, get the pressure and hit the quarterback. There's
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: your formula. So if you're building a case for how
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: can the defense improve this week, that's where it can improve.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, do me a favor.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Define pressure because a guy getting in the quarterback's face
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: after he's already been back there six seconds is not pressure, right?
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Is that right? Or does that count for pressure too?
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's defined by something impacting the throw. Okay. So, no,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: not if you get there later after the ball's already out.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: It's something to do with impacting the throw.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: No, I mean after you've been back there, like the
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: guys have been back there for half an hour.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: So if they come out the first two offensive possessions
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: and Craig's nobody's around him, it might be a long day.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: But if you can get to him, there's your chance.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Get a few stops and let Hawkins go to work.
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  Speaker 1: I also have a supplemental addendum.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Excuse me?
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't even tell you guys about this.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: No, well, imagine that. Shock, yeah.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Something's been bouncing around that I thought was interesting.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Before we even get into it. What?
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always an uh-oh when he does that.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. It's legitimate. Let me blow this thing.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Which does differentiate it from a lot of the other
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: things you say off the top of your head.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you had to qualify that. No, no. This
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: is real.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: With the basketball season getting ready to begin. The folks
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: at Roto World, which is a fantasy site, you may
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: have seen this, did a thing on studying basketball teams
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: and how many miles they will travel during the course
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: of the season.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Now in this new stupid era of conferences that make
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: no logistical sense. So Hawaii, to no surprise, travels the most.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: That doesn't count, really, because of the geography. I mean,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: it does.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Are they a state in the United States?
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I think they're 50th, yeah.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. United States. I mean, everything's got to be continental U.S.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: for you?
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying that.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, what do you hate Hawaii for? You would have.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Expected Hawaii to be number one on that list. Yeah.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Thank you. 34,794 miles is what Hawaii, and that does
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: not include their neutral site game against Washington State. They
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: just took that one off.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Where do they play neutral?
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Fiji? Aircraft carrier in the middle of the ocean.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: But here's some interesting results of this. but not surprisingly, Bethune-Cookman, Daytona, Florida.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: They're going 27,800 miles because what they'll do, I didn't
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: look at their schedule, but in all likelihood, they're spending
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: probably four weeks to start the season just going anywhere
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: to make money to play games. Out of the big 12,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: the next school is the third most traveled team in
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: the United States, Arizona. They're going 27,624.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: I'm just glad that's not West Virginia anymore.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: How many years to start the Big 12 did West
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: Virginia lead this list constantly?
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: And we had to look at, like, miles to Iowa State. Good, Arizona. Good. Travel.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Washington. University of Washington travels 25, 731 in that beautifully
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: configured Big 10.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Excellent.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Seattle University, 24,400. Now, who travels the least of any
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: team in the country? The Peacocks of St. Peter's, 3,400
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: miles the whole year.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Mostly on those Saddle River buses. Columbia travels least. Then
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: you see, okay, here we go. Power conferences, power conferences
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: travel 45% more. 88 power conference teams, the average travel
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: of a college basketball team at a power conference is 15,900 miles.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: The Mountain West travels the most as a group, 21,100 miles.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: And the... Average per team, you're saying? Yeah, the Metro
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Atlantic Athletic Conference, which is northeast there, there's 6,200. Here
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: we go. Arizona travels the most in the Big 12.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: This surprised the heck out of me. Surprised the heck
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: out of me. Houston is second. You'd think they would
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: kind of be like geographically. They're second, 22,425. West Virginia
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: is third in the Big 12. Mountaineers will travel 20,970.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Then Colorado. UCF is fifth. Oklahoma State travels the fewest
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: miles in the Big 12. Cowboys only go 10,400 miles.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: And West Virginia is at 20, and Arizona is at 27.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Half of those when they came to West Virginia.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, I just thought that was interesting.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Well, it is interesting, and it just is yet another
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: exclamation point on the absurdity of how conferences have evolved.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Helps when you turn this on. On the text line, JT,
• 54:38
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• 54:46
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• 54:48
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• 54:52
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• 54:57
  Speaker 1: we met Homeless Dave.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, my. Yeah, homeless was there.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: He says, I can confirm for all listeners that he
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: does actually exist. Really great guy.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: We never said he didn't exist. We just said he
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: didn't have a home.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: And we always said he was a great guy.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, if it wasn't for homeless Dave, we still
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: might not be doing this.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Right? A related and belated thank you for keeping us
• 55:22
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• 55:27
  Speaker 1: at the tailgate in the future. That's JT. Texter says, hey,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: three guys, I know the three of you are the
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: official WVU sports game day operations team. And you take
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: great pride and you take great pride in the much anticipated,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: never doubted spectacles of game day atmosphere. I thought you'd
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: be the perfect team to share this idea with. Local
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: high school and middle school sells popcorn out of a megaphone.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: You can punch out the bottom of the megaphone and
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: then use it when you're done with your popcorn doing
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: some research. One thing like this could project your voice
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: up to 1.4 times louder. If we had 60,000 yelling 1.4 louder,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: that's equal to the noise of 84,000 people. There it is.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: There's the megaphone. Also, slap a GoMart or a Tudor's
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  Speaker 1: logo on there and pay for it themselves. A silly
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: idea maybe, but if it contributes to one false start,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: it's worth it. There's the megaphone. They're putting popcorn in those, Brad.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Brad will not comment. I'm sorry, Mr.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Caridi.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Mr. Howell will not comment on game day operations.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Texter, remember we showed you the picture of the last
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: episode with Gerard Phelan?
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: He met up with those WVU golfers. And he said
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: he had a great story about Daryl Talley. Here's the
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Daryl Talley story.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: He said Jared mentioned a play against West Virginia when
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: he caught a short pass across the middle. He got tackled.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: He starts to get up. And he saw a hand
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: reach down and a voice saying, let me help you
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: up there, little buddy. It was Daryl Talley. He laughed
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: to himself. He never forgot. Daryl, I mean, he'll tackle
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: you and then pick you back up.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Right. Texter says, Michael and Culloden. I apologize for missing
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to give you a pan of fudge on
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Tony's World Book Tour. I could have had it delivered
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: to Milton Elementary since my lovely wife works very close
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: to there. Maybe next time. Well, guess what, Michael? I
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: haven't gone yet. It's next week. You can bring us
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: that fudge.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: Chances that the fudge sits next to him in the
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: truck on a drive all the way back to Morgantown
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: and actually makes it here.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: The chances, I'd say definitely. 10% to 20%.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: You remember that fudge. Very good fudge. That was unbelievable.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Sure it was.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I'll be there Tuesday. Just saying.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: You'll probably share it with the children.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: No, I'll put it in my pickup truck and drive
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: up home, and I'll bring.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: It to you guys. Put it in the back seat
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: so you can't reach it, please.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Texter, last week I was in a suite at the
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: game with a buddy of mine from Mineral County. Couldn't
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: help but notice during the middle of the game, there
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: was a lot of people all of a sudden gathering outside.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: I said, what the heck's going on? So I wanted
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: to take a look. And lo and behold, there it was,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Hoppy's best friend.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: There's Baby Dog.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Baby Dog. Ready to see Nakari Rogers come and get
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: some carries in Fort Worth. Let's go, Mountaineers. Ed from
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Ronsford from the Sportsman's Tavern. Remember we were at that
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Sportsman's Tavern? Yes. So the dog, he's got an Uber
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: all the time? Baby Dog?
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: What, being carried around?
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in that Uber wagon.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets carried around.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Do you know that, Brad? Baby Dog had an Uber.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's... Wasn't aware.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Huh. Guys, I love the show. And Tony's voice is
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: echoed through my home for all of my wife and
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: I's intense WV fandom, which is now 20-plus years. We're
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: season ticket holders. Well, my wife, who's a WV Masters grad...
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: says that some of your jokes and your commentary should
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: shift the name of the show to three papaws before
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: the game. So she says we're trending older. Through a heater.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Not in my football comment. I agree that Mike Hawkins
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: is generational talent. Through a heater.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Do you think that he... would have all of these
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: elevated stats if it weren't for some serious yak scramble
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: drills or a defense that kept other teams top large
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: enough to limit your snaps? Tom Obsession, he meant. Again,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: I hope the kid wins the Heisman. We're in the
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: stadium for 20 years now. When the AD retires his
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: number like we were so fortunate to see Pat, what's
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: your thought? Better defense equals Heisman talk or average stat
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: lines offensively?
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: We have talked a lot appropriately about what Michael Hawkins
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: is doing. It's going to be fascinating to see how
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: he does against one of the best defenses in the country.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, again, Tony, as you said, all we ask
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: is you.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Have another unbelievable game.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: To give West Virginia a chance to win, can you
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: do that? I mean, if he does that, you go, oh,
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: my God.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Hey, Mike, go out there and do something that hasn't
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: been done again in 130-plus years of Mountaineer football.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Can you take care of that for us? Can we
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: get one where he just has to have a good
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: game to win, not historic? That's what you're looking for.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes. On the last episode, there was a discussion
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: how average the football program has been over the last
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: 10 years. Hoppe says he doesn't expect the team to
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: play for or win a national title, but he expects
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: the team to be above I don't expect WVU to
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: be a year-in, year-out national contender. In this day and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: age of college sports and money, should we never expect
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: to be in the hunt ever again? There will never
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: again be an 88, 93, or 2007. If after the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: season Michael Hawkins leaves for a school that can pay more,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: I guess that may be my answer. Mark up there
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: in Wheeling.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, you might.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: I just don't think, realistically, I don't think from year
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: to year that's something that you count on. Oh, our
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: goal this year is to play for a national title.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's realistic. Could it happen one day? Well,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: it's happened before, so it could happen again, but I
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: don't think going into each season that can be or
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: should be a realistic expectation.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: I think your realistic expectation is you play for the
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: championship in your league every year, and if you're able
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: to get to that point, you're in the national championship conversation.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: That's your realistic goal, and I think that's a realistic goal.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think you ever start the season and say,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: you know, once this thing gets its foundation built back,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: then you can legitimately contend for this championship.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know. Of course, also, when they
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: go to 24 teams.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe you can. Well, that'll certainly help your chances of
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: being in the playoff.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: It's just hard. I mean, it's.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: And let me say this. You're closer than you are
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: farther away in this sense. If this defense was average
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: at this point, you could make a strong claim that
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: you're undefeated.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Yes. So what's that tell you? That would be through
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: two months of the season, you're right there.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: You're certainly five and two, and you're very likely six
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: and one right now.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, we'd be having a totally different conversation right now.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: Just a couple of A couple of stops equal a
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: couple more wins, and you're really cooking.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: And if your defense was good, it would be giddy.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Texter, am I the only one who turns into Steve
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Slayton when I walk through a parking lot? You may
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: see a Buick parked next to a Kia. What I
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: see is Zach Frazier opening up the A-gap so I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: can hit high gear. Hearing Tony say, there he goes, 20, 15, 10, 5, touchdown.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I'm almost 40. I'll never grow up. So he's going
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: through parking lots. He sees a crease. You know how
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: you do that.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: I get that.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Like you could go straight down the lane or you
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: can go like, where am I cutting? He says, a gap.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: He thinks the key is Frazier and cuts inside. And
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: off he goes.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Isn't that Frazier pretty good? You ever just sometimes you're
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: watching the Steelers, just watch him.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: And just drive guys, drive professional defensive linemen and linebackers
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: into the defensive backfield.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Gentlemen, during episode 748, that was our last one.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Hoppy broke the story that Coach Hodge confided in him
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: that he wanted to see how his team responded when
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: they got hit in the mouth. Seemingly an exclusive. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Thamel reportedly released that story seven minutes before the
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  Speaker 1: episode was recorded. Not to worry, Hopster. You'll scoop him
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  Speaker 1: next time. Keep trying. Yeah. Text her. Hey, fellas. Can't
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  Speaker 1: wait to see everyone in Fort Worth. Make sure to
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  Speaker 1: stop by the Stockyards. And grab a rack of ribs
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  Speaker 1: at Hard 8. Hard 8 is big boy good. Only
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  Speaker 1: took me five days to get here in my Avalon
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  Speaker 1: pontoon down the Mississippi River. So he went to Lou Wendell.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Tony. Now he takes a heater. Here comes a
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  Speaker 1: heater shot. Hey, Tony. Took your advice on the 50-50
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: panko and parmesan ratio on the chicken cutlets this week.
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  Speaker 1: Figured I just better listen to the professionals like Patrick
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: at Cafe Oliverio.
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  Speaker 2: Instead.
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  Speaker 1: Try Grana Padano cheese instead and dip the eggs in twice. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: see you all at Eamon Carter Stadium. Juan in Orlando.
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  Speaker 1: Probably not his real name or his location. So anyway, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you can make cutlets. Yeah, you can make cutlets different ways. Again,
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  Speaker 1: the way they do it at Oliverio is incredibly tasty.
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  Speaker 1: I had not heard of that way. I might try that.
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  Speaker 2: You're open to that?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, heck yeah, I'm open to that.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, in your trips to Fort Worth, have you guys
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  Speaker 2: been to the stockyards?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see when they bring the cattle through?
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen the cattle. You ever seen the cattle, Brad?
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  Speaker 2: I've not.
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  Speaker 1: Haven't seen them.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't done that. So I've seen that. It's kind
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: of cool. You just stand there, and they herd the
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: cattle down the street.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to see that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on cattle.
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  Speaker 2: Fort Worth is, I think, a— I'm pro-cattle.
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  Speaker 3: To me, Dallas as a city is sterile, and Fort
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  Speaker 3: Worth is right next door, has a lot of character.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of money. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: We had a good barbecue place that's just past the
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  Speaker 4: stockyards there that we walked to last time we were there.
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  Speaker 2: Really? Can't remember the name of it.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Trying a new one this time because we're staying in Arlington.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: We're not staying in Fort Worth. We're staying in Arlington,
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  Speaker 1: so I got a different place. Why are you looking
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: at me like a dog when you talk to a
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  Speaker 1: dog and they turn their head sideways? Hobby gave me
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  Speaker 1: the dog.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I stayed in Arlington.
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  Speaker 2: Arlington is... I know it's adjacent to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like 30 minutes or so. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how far we are. Whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: What's that? That's not a Tough environment, is it?
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  Speaker 1: No. No, it's not a tough environment. It's not a
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  Speaker 1: tough environment to play in.
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  Speaker 2: You have a good view. You've got a good box.
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  Speaker 1: Horrible. Really? Embarrassing, ridiculous. They should take the architect from
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  Speaker 1: that place.
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  Speaker 2: Where are you?
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  Speaker 1: Behind the goal post.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're not.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I am.
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  Speaker 2: Are you serious?
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  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: In the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: And it's bad for basketball, too, right?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're up in the air in basketball, too. What
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  Speaker 1: in the world, man?
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  Speaker 2: You're behind the goal post. Where's home radio for football?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Next to us. Same thing happened in Kansas. Really? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: These brain surgeon architects that are building these new stadiums,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: they might want to ask how play-by-play people in broadcast. Now, TV,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: of course, always gets the 50. Of course. But radio
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  Speaker 1: you don't need to see because TV, they don't have
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  Speaker 1: any cameras or monitors or anything like that, so they
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: can't see.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they're sitting there saying, we can give this booth
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  Speaker 3: to radio or we can charge somebody $ 10 million for
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  Speaker 3: the booth.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened. God bless WVU because this new
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: press box, we will be able to see the field
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  Speaker 1: very nicely.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you've got sway.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: It only makes sense. I mean, what do you do?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: You go into an operating room, tell the doctor, no,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: we're not going to use any medical instruments today. Just
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: go ahead. You don't need to see.
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  Speaker 2: Or just do it from the waiting room. We did
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  Speaker 2: at Maryland.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was ridiculous. Behind the basket at Maryland.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: I think we were at Byrd Stadium.
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  Speaker 4: You know how they say you sit up there, you
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: can see the Washington Monument. You can also see the
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: opposing lane is right next to it. So you look out,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: there's the opposing lane on the other side, the far side,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: and then there's the Washington Monument.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Sitting right behind it. Washington Monument, Capitol Hill.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: See all of it. Great view.
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  Speaker 2: Wonderful.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: You guys get my blood pressure up.
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  Speaker 2: The reflecting pool right there. There it is. Who made
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: that shot? I don't know. I can't see it, but
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: there's the reflecting pool. There's the Vietnam War Memorial right there.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: All right. We come back. We're doing the... Where am
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: I here? We're going Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Sunday morning. Jefferson Memorial.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Monticello.
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  Speaker 2: Monticello is not in Washington.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore. Sequoia National Forest. Grand Canyon. Hit the music.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Overstate are welcome.
• 1:08:07
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• 1:08:18
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• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Biscuit World, start your day the homemade way. Smoke hole caverns.
• 1:08:31
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• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: Because they were older.
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• 1:08:55
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  Speaker 1: Pipestem. We're done seeing you.