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Eagles vs. Packers Postgame Show, Week 1 · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 1: All right, you're listening to Eagles postgame analysis here at
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  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly
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  Speaker 1: Philly sports podcast show in the world, eleven years strong,
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  Speaker 1: and the first game of the Philadelphia Eagles twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: four twenty twenty five season is now in the books.
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  Speaker 1: They beat the Green Bay Packers down in Brazil by
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  Speaker 1: a score of thirty four to twenty nine. Holy cow,
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  Speaker 1: they won this game. Win all three of us here, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I said all three of us. We got Eric Leonard
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  Speaker 1: and Lenhunsicker with us here, all three of us on
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  Speaker 1: our Eagles season preview show said the Eagles, We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: lose this game. They end up winning it. Unbelievable. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's good to have you got guys again again. I
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  Speaker 1: can't believe all three of us are on the doing
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  Speaker 1: the postgame show here first time, last time.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: If the NFL is going to continue having four hour games, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it would be the last.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, doing this at midnight.
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  Speaker 4: Walk out five hours of my day, four for a
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  Speaker 4: game and one for a post game.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly. All right, Well, let's get into
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  Speaker 1: our themes of this game first. And for Eric, you
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  Speaker 1: just said it. The refs completely made this game about them.
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  Speaker 1: They made this game so long, which was unfortunate. So
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  Speaker 1: many penalties. At the end of the day, seventeen penalties
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  Speaker 1: called in this game was absolutely uncalled for real, ticky
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  Speaker 1: tat crap penalties being called that actually weren't penalties at all.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it was the ref show during week one.
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  Speaker 3: Eric, well that that and I think I text you
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  Speaker 3: guys like if there were probably like seventeen to eighteen
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  Speaker 3: more decline penalties.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it was like thirty five total.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 5: It was unbelievable. Listen, I know I bashed the NFL
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  Speaker 5: in here, but this was just ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: The feel was horrible. Why are they there? Goodell's there smiling. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: this is great, right.
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  Speaker 2: About new Market.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're making money. We're making money, folks.
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  Speaker 2: We're expanding the brand.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure we're gonna make real inroads into Brazil, where
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  Speaker 3: actual football is one hundred percent of approval rating.
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  Speaker 5: Like there's it's just not going to happen. I'm glad.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad we wanted in our defense by the way,
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  Speaker 3: you said, we were all wrong at the top of
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  Speaker 3: the show. We didn't see our team play so we
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  Speaker 3: were just kind of going off, what the hell we had?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Right, and uh the first quarter we were right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The Eagles came out, looked the offense like horrible. They
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  Speaker 3: hadn't played together all year long. I'm not sure if
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  Speaker 3: Cam Jurgens has ever met Jalen Hurts, well until today.
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  Speaker 1: That was my notes. It was my notes here. Cam
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  Speaker 1: Jurgens is no Jason Kelsey, Folks. Snap issues throughout the game.
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  Speaker 1: One leads to a turnover, my god, just not good
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  Speaker 1: but slop.
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  Speaker 3: But that last, the last one that Hurts just miss
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  Speaker 3: mishandled like that was actually a good snap.
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  Speaker 5: You can you can just tell they haven't played.
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  Speaker 3: Together much and which is It's understandable, but I don't
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  Speaker 3: know just the entire situation down there with the field
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  Speaker 3: Green Bays was staying two hours from the from the
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  Speaker 3: actual stadium, Yeah, out of fear for like Gang Wars
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  Speaker 3: and like it just just don't.
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  Speaker 5: Do this again, please, It was really dumb.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Well, the Eagles did win their first home game here, Lenn,
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  Speaker 1: so I guess I guess that's good.
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  Speaker 4: That's a question I have so like for these teams
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  Speaker 4: that like go to whether it's Brazil or Germany or
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  Speaker 4: England or wherever. Did those home teams that are the
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  Speaker 4: home team that are missing out on the gate, on
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  Speaker 4: concessions on parking, is there some kind of compensation for that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. That's great question. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 4: I because if I was owning the team, I would
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  Speaker 4: damn sure want to know, Like I would want to
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  Speaker 4: be paid handsomely for that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, how about okay, so if you're the owner of
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  Speaker 3: the team, you probably get a nice chunk of change.
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  Speaker 3: How about the actual people that work those games?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely probably not, that's.
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  Speaker 2: No, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 5: You're talking about communism, lend Well, I know.
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  Speaker 1: I known. Do you have any other do you have
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  Speaker 1: what takeaway do you want to get into with regard
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  Speaker 1: to this game? I mean, I've got a bunch here
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  Speaker 1: in my notes, frankly, but like, what are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think Hurts looked great at all.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, and this goes back to what Eric was saying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he did not act that.
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  Speaker 4: We haven't seen you know, him or any starters in
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  Speaker 4: the preseason, you know whatsoever. And that's got a change
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  Speaker 4: because I mean he had two interceptions. He probably could
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  Speaker 4: have had like four or five. I meanly, I think, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I thought he was sloppy as all get out. Wasn't
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  Speaker 2: at all.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I don't I don't think it was just
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  Speaker 1: the passing. I mean the passing at times. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's like it was just inconsistent, like you said, but
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurt's decision making on the read option was horrendous
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  Speaker 1: throughout this game. And Guys, he's now been in the
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  Speaker 1: league for a number of years at this point, he
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  Speaker 1: is a veteran. He has done the read option now continuously,
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  Speaker 1: year after year after year, and we are seeing complete
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  Speaker 1: garbage from him when deciphering and trying to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what to do with the read option. And I'm actually
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  Speaker 1: really concerned about this aspect of his game and the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles offense. Len, I mean, you brought up Hurts with
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  Speaker 1: the passing, and yeah, inconsistency because he didn't play through
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  Speaker 1: the preseason. You know, it would have been nice if
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  Speaker 1: he got some snaps and a few reps here and there.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm not really terrified that they're they're gonna get hurt.
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  Speaker 4: They are they are, and that's that's what the problems
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  Speaker 4: with these teams.
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  Speaker 1: But here I'm concerned about the read option. He's been
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  Speaker 1: doing this for how long and we are seeing mistake
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  Speaker 1: after mistake after mistake. I don't know, Eric, are you
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  Speaker 1: Are you worried too?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I will defend him a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Basically, it was his first game of the year and
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  Speaker 3: he still went for two hundred seventy eight yards and
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  Speaker 3: two touchdowns. And he had that I had this in
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  Speaker 3: my notes. He ain't no pussy like. He had that
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  Speaker 3: big time run for the first down in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 3: really mattered and just put his head down and got
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  Speaker 3: it and it kind of that kind of put the
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  Speaker 3: game away a little bit before the pass to DeVante.
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  Speaker 3: I will I will defend him in that regard.
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  Speaker 5: I gotta say.
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  Speaker 3: I've said it during the show the past couple of
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  Speaker 3: weeks like this, this soft preseason bullshit.
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  Speaker 5: You got to stop, Nick.
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  Speaker 3: Your team looks unprepared in the first quarter, almost the
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  Speaker 3: first half, and.
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  Speaker 1: Really quick first quarter. They only had thirty five yards
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  Speaker 1: of offense because of the inconsistency because of not playing
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  Speaker 1: in the preseason like you're talking.
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  Speaker 5: About, and it lasted for an hour.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, first quarter.
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  Speaker 5: It was horrible to watch.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll talk about the defense then, but like the
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  Speaker 3: tackles wore down really fast. Like I do not like
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  Speaker 3: how he runs his preseasons. And if I think, I
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  Speaker 3: text you guys like if he wants to lose it,
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  Speaker 3: he must not care about losing his job, because like
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  Speaker 3: he went into the season like this is probably my
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  Speaker 3: last shot. If I don't make this work, and you
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  Speaker 3: didn't play anybody at all in the preseason, we'll we'll
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  Speaker 3: just kind of wing it, yeah one and go forwardly.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe not do that next time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yet they still win. Yet they still put up
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  Speaker 1: thirty four points because when a lot of explosive plays
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  Speaker 1: happened because you have somebody now in the backfield like
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  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley who can catch touchdown passes, who's able to
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  Speaker 1: just just man bully his way through a line to
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  Speaker 1: get get to the goal line. Saquon Barkley was absolutely
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  Speaker 1: amazing in this game. When you take a look at
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  Speaker 1: what a top tier quarterback is going to I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: running back is going to do for you twenty four carries.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't seen an Eagles running back have twenty four
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  Speaker 1: carries in a game in quite some time for one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and nine yards. Four point five yards per carry,
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  Speaker 1: two touchdowns, and he caught two balls for twenty three
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  Speaker 1: yards and that touchdown. As we know, having a top
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  Speaker 1: tier quarter geez, I keep saying that running back like
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  Speaker 1: Sakwon Barkley, Man, it made all the difference in the
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  Speaker 1: world in this game.
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  Speaker 4: Len, Yeah, I thought running backs weren't important anymore. That's
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  Speaker 4: what the NFL keeps telling right right, like a superstar running.
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  Speaker 2: Back, but apparently they're pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was phenomenal, hands down, best player on the
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  Speaker 4: field today.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yep, not even close.
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  Speaker 3: And we're all Penn State guys, and I'll admit I
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  Speaker 3: have not really watched him play since Penn State. Like
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  Speaker 3: I saw him with the Giants against the Eagles, and
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  Speaker 3: he was always really good, but almost kind of forgot
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  Speaker 3: a little bit about how freaking good he was. And
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  Speaker 3: that's why he was drafted away overall when he was like, like,
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  Speaker 3: my god, they took a running back that high.
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  Speaker 5: Well, he's not just a running back. You can catch
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  Speaker 5: the baut of the backfield.
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  Speaker 3: He's a great blocker, like he kind of does every
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  Speaker 3: He's kind of the kind of Derrick Henry like he's
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  Speaker 3: the he's.
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  Speaker 5: The outlier right now. As running back.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, I honestly I think I text you, guys,
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  Speaker 3: see the best running back we've had ever like it
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  Speaker 3: for the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Like he's up there.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think that's necessarily a high bar
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  Speaker 2: to clear.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, that's the problem. Yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean to your point, yeah he is.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what he does, because I still think Shady
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  Speaker 1: is definitely top top tier in my opinion. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, offensively too. When you take a look at
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  Speaker 1: the receiving A J. Brown had ten targets, only came
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  Speaker 1: down with five balls, but Jesus one hundred and nineteen
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  Speaker 1: yards averaged twenty three point eight yards per reception, and
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  Speaker 1: it's much down. Davonte Smith targeted eight times, caught seven
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  Speaker 1: of those balls for eighty four yards. He averaged twelve
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  Speaker 1: yards per reception. And Dallas Goddard of course, involved with
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  Speaker 1: five targets and coming down with four balls for thirty
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  Speaker 1: one yards. To the receivers, I think, in general, did
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  Speaker 1: what they were asked to do. I think I think
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  Speaker 1: the receivers actually did a pretty good job in this game.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do the grades in a little bit, but I
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  Speaker 1: think the receivers did pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, agreed, go ahead. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Green Bay's defensive backs are good. I mean they signed
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  Speaker 3: that kid from Minnesota, Xavier. Yeah, yeah, damn goodball player,
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  Speaker 3: and I think their secondary is pretty strong and they
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  Speaker 3: they did really well. Like this is all on Jalen
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  Speaker 3: Hurts this year. They gave him every weapon necessary. The
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  Speaker 3: offensive line actually played pretty damn well. I'll say, I
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  Speaker 3: know the Jurgons thing was awkward, but like, they gave
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  Speaker 3: him plenty of time. There were times where Kurtz was
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  Speaker 3: back there like eight seconds, like yeah, something to get open, Like,
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  Speaker 3: I got plenty of time here, and he ran for
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  Speaker 3: a couple of weird ones. But like I thought, defensive
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  Speaker 3: line did really well. Again, this is the most potent
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  Speaker 3: offense that they've ever put around him, So with a
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  Speaker 3: legit coordinator, it's on him to make this work.
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  Speaker 1: Yet we were consistently seeing third and long from this
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  Speaker 1: Eagles offense too. It's a theme, guys from last season
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  Speaker 1: that's continuing here into Week one, and I do wonder
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  Speaker 1: if it's that, if it's that Nick Sirianni effect. I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if it's you know, it's the combination that they're
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  Speaker 1: saying of Nick Sirianni's offense and Kellen Moore's offense, and
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  Speaker 1: of course we saw what Kellen Moore's offense was for
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  Speaker 1: the first game. My gosh, it was so nice to
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  Speaker 1: see pre snap motion. It was so nice to see
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  Speaker 1: the defense, the opposing defense just being caught off guard
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  Speaker 1: because of pre snap motion. Something simple that's been happening
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  Speaker 1: for many years in the NFL. Nick and Nick Sirianni's
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  Speaker 1: telling Kellen Moore, Okay, go ahead, Yeah, why don't you
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  Speaker 1: use that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they had a good stat during the game of
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  Speaker 4: like you know, last year they were dead last in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL, and then yep, tonight they ran it like
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  Speaker 4: I think sixty eight percent of the time, which is
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  Speaker 4: a drastic difference.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, Do you guys have anything else for
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  Speaker 1: the offense, because I definitely want to get into the defense.
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  Speaker 1: I got some stuff here, some themes here. No, No, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I just I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean Eric mentioned that one play where were hurts, you know,
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  Speaker 4: put his head down and just ran for the first down,
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  Speaker 4: and I like kind of, you know, yelled out to
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  Speaker 4: nobody in particular, like where was this all game? Like,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, I feel like, like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: a quarterback comes into the league and we get excited
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  Speaker 4: about him, and he's doing all this awesome stuff. He's
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  Speaker 4: throwing the ball, he's running the ball, and then he
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  Speaker 4: stops running the ball.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this happened with McNabb. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: it happened with.
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  Speaker 4: Wentz, Like I like, I feel like I've seen this
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  Speaker 4: a lot before. Yeah, and I like up until like
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  Speaker 4: like that at the end of the day game, I
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  Speaker 4: feel like I was seeing it with Hurts too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, but is that a byproduct of like the play calling,
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  Speaker 3: because I was watching the game too, and when Hurts,
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  Speaker 3: when Hurts ran first down, I'm thinking, like this team
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  Speaker 3: could bully ball if they wanted to.
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  Speaker 5: Massive defensive line.
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  Speaker 3: Barkley is just a bowling ball, and so is the quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like if if the past game is not there,
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  Speaker 3: that was only want to take away too of positivity,
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  Speaker 3: is like if the if if the passing is just
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  Speaker 3: not there, they could just barrel barrel through teams that
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  Speaker 3: they wanted to because they had so many athletes that
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  Speaker 3: could run the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, And by the way they were they were the
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  Speaker 4: commentators on numerous occasions made made comments about how much
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  Speaker 4: Hurts and Barkley both squat like I was waiting for
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: them to do our like tight jeans joke.
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  Speaker 2: It was like, how just talking about those It was weird.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, they even showed footage of them squatting.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I know, yeah, I'm surprised they didn't start squatting
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  Speaker 3: in the booth like they were.
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  Speaker 1: I love the squats tight just this tight spandex. And
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  Speaker 1: by the way, how the hell do we have Ian
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  Speaker 1: Eagle for this game and Todd Blackletch for the for
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  Speaker 1: the broadcasters.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever seen Todd Blacklch do a
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  Speaker 4: pro game.
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  Speaker 1: I think I've seen him do like one, I think
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  Speaker 1: for NBC. But it was like during like maybe one
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  Speaker 1: of those double Monday Night games or something like that
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  Speaker 1: years ago, or or or you know when they do
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: like the double Monday Night games or something. I don't know, maybe.
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  Speaker 3: It's it was a terrible Monday Night with the second
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: Monday Night game. Is like, like you and I do
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  Speaker 3: the game, they have no one left to right to
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  Speaker 3: I should broadcast the game like that's Yeah, it was weird.
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  Speaker 3: The whole situation was weird. Thank god they won, but
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  Speaker 3: like just let's just never do that again. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: like any any aspects.
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  Speaker 1: Of Well, I gotta say there were certain parts of
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: this Eagles defense I liked. In some parts I absolutely
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  Speaker 1: did not like. Let's get into what I really didn't
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: like and guys, well, we talked about on the Eagle
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  Speaker 1: season preview show this past week. Folks, go back and
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  Speaker 1: listen to it in the in the feed if you
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  Speaker 1: haven't heard it yet. The Eagles pass rush, guys, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot of nothing from Josh Sweat, Bryce Huff
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  Speaker 1: or Nolan Smith nowhere to be found. Boy, the pass
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  Speaker 1: rush in and the defensive tackles while first quarter actually
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  Speaker 1: playing very well, clogging up those gaps. My goodness, Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Carter and Davis just just, oh my gosh, getting bullied around.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe what was happening. I'm like, Wow, this
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  Speaker 1: defensive front is gonna potentially have a problem. I'm eric,
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty concerned about it moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like so, Green Bay's offensive line is pretty good, and
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  Speaker 3: I you know, I thought they'd give Jordan Love some
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: some some time, and I thought Jacos have a good game.
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  Speaker 3: But what I did, the number one thing I did
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  Speaker 3: not like and we talked about on the show for
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: weeks now, was like if the tackles have a good season,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: the edge rushers will have a good season, And it
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  Speaker 3: just kind of goes like that from like domino effect
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  Speaker 3: and second quarter they're already wearing down, They're already huffing
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  Speaker 3: and puffing. Jalen Carter has two bad penalties, almost like
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  Speaker 3: I'm tired penalties. That that was, That's that was the
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  Speaker 3: number one most concerning thing about this game for me
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  Speaker 3: is that those guys.
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  Speaker 5: Is Jordan Davis going to make it this year?
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  Speaker 2: Like is that a not in football shape yet thing
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  Speaker 2: for you?
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: Is that something that you think that as the as
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: the season goes on, they'll they'll get better with.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: But again, that's that's on Nick Sirianni, obviously, he and I.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: That was that was really the most concerning thing. And
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like, Okay, Week four, They're playing at Tampa Bay, right,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: is Jordan David's going to be winded halfway through the
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: first quarter because it's ninety five degrees down there.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Probably gonna be muggy down there. Yeah.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And by week eight, by week twelve, like that,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: that was the most concerted because I think everything feeds
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: off of their performance, and they were good for like
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: a quarter and a half.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: The rest of time they kind of sucked, like they
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: got pushed around.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: They did, they did. There was one hundred and sixty
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: three total rushing yards by Green Bay. And when you
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: look on the box score, and I know the box
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: score with the defense doesn't always paint the picture, but
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: you've got Josh Sweat with one tackle, one tackle for
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: a loss, Jalen Carter had two total tackles, and you've
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: got Davis not even on here.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, hold my my dark horse MVP Bryce Huff, Yeah,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: was he playing tonight.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure he had.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: One total tackle.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: He was out there.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: My goodness. That was a that was Oh my god.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I already forgot the guy's name for the sixers. He
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: was our powerful Tobias Tyris, Tobias. That was a Tobias
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Harris performance. It was like, oh, he's out there. He
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: has eight points and two rebounds. I forgot. I forgot
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Bryce Huff was out there.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: He didn't do anything tonight.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Nothing. I picked Josh Swett. Remember, I was like, listen,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going to the other side of the line. I'm
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: going Josh Sweat. I mean he had one total tackle
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: one time, he did have a tackle for a loss
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and a quarterback hit. That that's it. That's not good.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: That's how traumatic my Tobias hair situation was. Yes, I
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: already blinked out. I couldn't remember his name. I had
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: to move on.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: It's not me.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: It's something that's healthy for you.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: So.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, defensive line getting pressure, it's it's definitely an issue.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, making tackles, it's definitely an issue. I have
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: to say this though. On the opposite side of the coin,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the Eagles inside linebackers, Uh, not too too bad, Na,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Kobe Dean and Zach Bond. I mean very I mean
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I'm talking the pursuit in terms of the right game.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Clearly very good playing downhill. Still a concern with them,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: of course when they're in coverage, because we did see
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: both of these guys. They need to work on it,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: for sure, and I've been talking about it a lot
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: on this podcast platform since the spring. You gotta cover
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: if you're a linebacker in Nick fan or in Vic
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Fangio's scheme here, and they were having some problems with that,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: struggling with it. Hopefully they can get some things corrected.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: But that was a positive. The linebackers in this game, guys,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I thought were a positive. Len I was happy, of
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: course with Zach Bond because we're seriously throughout the throughout
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: camp and stuff, were like, all right, who's a Zach
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Bond guy? You know what's he he did?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: He thought he was.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: His pursuit to the ball was incredible. I loved what
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the linebackers did, and I'm feeling a little better about
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: this position and moving forward here.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked the game that both of them had.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I think that Dean maybe got a little bit more
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: lost and coverage something, oh yeah, you know, I thought,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: But I thought he made some nice play too. But
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: I was, you know, I was really impressed with Zach Bonn.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I thought he had a really nice game, and I know,
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: you know, you mentioned a couple of times where he
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: got a little bit turned around in coverage as well,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: But I mean, you.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Know, he had both our sacks. You know, I just
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: feel like every time I was.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Watching and there was a decent play made, he was
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: kind of in around it. So I thought he was
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: their best player on defense. Well you know what that
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: and you know, we'll get into the secondary, but you know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: they went after Quinny and Mitchell early, and I thought
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: he acquitted himself quite nicely.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, I was going to get into that as well.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: We'll get into the secondary and a little bit too.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: But like Eric, the first three Packers drives of this
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: of the game. First drive, it started at Green Bay's
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: thirty five yard line. They came away with zero points.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: The Packers second drive of the game started at the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Eagles nineteen and they came away with three points. Packer's
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: third drive of the games started that the Eagles sixteen
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: yard line, and they came away with three points. The
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Eagles defense did their job early in this game and
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: then kind of kind of fell apart here and there,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: giving up the big plays, giving up the big explosive plays.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: But a lot of that was because of the linebackers,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: believe it or not, and because of Zach Bond that
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: that the Packers were held to only six points on
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: their first three drives, and two of those drives like
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: within the red zone basically, And I gotta give the
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: linebackers a lot of credit.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Can I just say how many times this year are
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: you going to say Nick Fangio.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I know I'm an idiot. I know.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: You already did it once. I'm just I'm anticipating it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: It's very easy to switch those up. So but the
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: one thing I did not like they did. They weren't
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: great in coverage the linebackers, sure, but then I think
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I noticed with them, and we've we've seen mediocre linebacker
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: play with this team for for years now, was just
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: the speed and the pursuit of the ball like that
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: that was what jumped out, is that Bond and Dean
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: like really were ballhawks, to use a cliche term, but
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: like they were really fast, and I have not seen
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: fast linebackers on this team in a long time. I
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: think it's actually good for Niakobe Dean that Devin White
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: didn't didn't play allowed him to like he played really well.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Like he like you said, he missed like one or
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: two plays in coverage, but like, just just how fast
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: they were and getting to the ball really made me
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: feel good. And it really helped the secondary, which you
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: know we'll get into. But like Mitchell, Mitchell had one
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: or two bad plays a rookie, as an understandable, but
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: in coverage he was pretty damn good. And he was
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: also in guy's faces, like I love that. I just
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: love that aggressiveness. That's what they have to doesn't because
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Gardner Johnson didn't have the greatest game tonight. I did
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: not play super well. Blankenship, thank god, was he was
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: a beast today. He was really really good. And I
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: thought those I thought, I thought Bond, Dean, blanken Ship,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: and Mitchell kind of the kind of the superstars of
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: the defense tonight.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Quinnon Mitchell. They were targeting him, Len, like
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: you said, right at the start of the game, and
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: and he held up. He held up on that opening
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: drive and throughout the game. A couple of mishaps here
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and there. He's a rookie. Things are gonna happen. But
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: he looks like the real deal. And it looks like
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: he belongs it does it looked like it looks like
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: he belongs. And you know what, it was at high
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: draft pick in the first round. Looks like for good
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: reason too. What I thought was interesting though, also Len,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: and I thought we'd see more of him was Cooper
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: dejen He he came in. I think he was only
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: in for one play. He was the sixth defensive back
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: in dime personnel in the first quarter. Think again, I
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: think I saw him for one play. It was hard
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: to believe that he didn't see more time, given that
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Avonte Maddox was getting cooked throughout the game and did
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: not have a very good game. I'm surprised that they
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: didn't try to put Cooper to Gene in their len
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: at least a few more, a few plays to see
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: if he could kind of cut through some of the
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: stuff that Avonte Maddox was just struggling with.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: I feel like the Eagles in the past few years
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: have had quite a few rookies, like defensively, especially that
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: like you've been like, okay, like this guy was supposed
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: to be really good, I'm not seeing it in his
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: rookie year. And it feels like they've just developed a
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: little bit later, and I can easily see that being
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Cooper to Gene this year.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: I like where they're they're maybe not quite ready for
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: the NFL yet, maybe not as much as you thought
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: they might be, and they come on a little bit later.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling that's going to be Cooper.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Do you think it's because I was injured through so
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: much of the camp.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely doesn't help, but he's like Mitchell seems
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: to me like one of those born ready guys, whereas.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: The Gene seems like he's gonna It's like.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Dean and Davis and even Carter to an extent, Gilen Carter,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: who started off hot and then fell off like like, man,
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know, like I with a couple of their
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: defensive rookies, I felt like I expected a little bit more.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's gonna be Cooper to Gene
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, really quick. With regard to Zach Bond, fifteen total tackles,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: eleven solo, two sacks, he had a tackle for a
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: loss in two quarterback hits. He's definitely the MVP of
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: this Eagles defense for sure. Do you guys have anything
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: else for the defense before we go to break?
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Just like timing wise, I mean, yeah, they gave up
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: twenty nine points and that's not great, but you know,
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: given how bad this game started offensively from them being
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: completely discombobulated and also you know, giving up bad field position, yeah,
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: this could have gotten out.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Of hand really bad. Like really it felt like it
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: was going on for the defense.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so could have whatever they did the rest
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: of the game.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Kudos to them for at least keeping the offense in
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: the game early.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Yep, you got anything else there?
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this could have been seventeen to three, really fast,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: super easy. Like the defense had their backup against the walls,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: against the wall, and every time they stopped them against
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: a really damn good Packers offense like they you know
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: you saw on the cash last year, they kicked ass. Yeah,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: and they they really stepped up to give up twenty
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: nine points to this team. Not bad at your first
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: game too, by the way, with a lot of young
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: players and for for Dejeene or de Jonn whatever his
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: name is.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's young.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: He's like we're drafting guys now, they're like twenty twenty
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: one years old. Yeah, and it's like when we expect
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: everything from them.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: And he was hurt.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think he how much did he even practice
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: with this team, So I'm not surprising didn't play.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: So I have high hopes for him.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: So the defense overall think that that is we predicted
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: all of us to the Packers to beat us because
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: we didn't know, and we thought the defense was going
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: to be We're not sure. And it's a really good offense.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: And they held them to twenty nine points given the
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: field position issue, and they still they still won the
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: game and did their job in the first and second quarter.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it was a It was definitely a bend.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: The Eagles defense had a whole lot of bend, but
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: they weren't breaking in key red zone spots in particular.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: So I think that Green Bay offense had only one
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: touchdown on four red zone possessions. Again, that's an Eagles
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: defense with a whole lot of bend, and they just
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: weren't breaking there in those spots, which was great. So
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break, and when we come back,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: we are going to do our grades. Take a break
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: right now, All right, we are back. Let's get to
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: our grades. Start off at the quarterback position. I am
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: going to be giving Jalen Hurts this week a B minus.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like he was just all
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: over the place. Len, what do you give Jalen Hurts
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: this week? I mean considering he ended with you know,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy eight yards, two touchdowns, two interceptions,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: eight point two yards per attempt. He was twenty of
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: thirty four and ended with a rating of eighty point three.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Not terrible. He had some fantastic plays. He had some
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: awful plays, as we know too. But I'm gonna give
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: him a B minus. This team ended up winning and
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: he was a part of that. So Len, I'm giving
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: him a B minus. What do you give him?
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: I feel like I might be harsher than him that
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: with him than I should be this week, just because
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I just the mistakes were just like, there was a
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: point early in the game.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Where was that?
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Has this guy ever picked up a football before? Like,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: I know, what what happened to this guy?
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: What?
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Remember the guy that lost in the Super Bowl the Chiefs?
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: But was like just super dynamic, Like where where is
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: that guy?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: What happened? Yeah?
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean there's a lot of stuff he
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: needs to iron now, a lot of stuff that you
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: mentioned earlier. At this point in his career, it's a
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: little concerning that's still happening. But you know, he did
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: kind of come back a little bit in the second half.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: The overall stats, when you look at him, they're not bad.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go C plus C plus.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, Eric, what do you give Jalen Hurts this week?
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: I actually like your B minus grade? I'll do the
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: same thing.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: It's one of those classical like you look at the stats,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: go not bad. Watch the game like, oh boy, yeah,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I can see. I can see that this was his
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: first game since January.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: All right, yeah, so I.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Again, if Nick is back next year, can we not
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: do the I'm not going to play any of my
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: starters in preseason.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: It's just such a bad move.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Like the good teams, Like you watch the good teams
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: and go, oh yeah, I should do that, Like this
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: is not that hard, this is very easy.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Can I ask a quick question here? Yeah, just like
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: just like and this is like projection down the road.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: But it's just because since Eric said, if Nick is back,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: what do you think the threshold is for him being
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: back versus not being back?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think you were on that show. Of
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: course you weren't, because I think that was what Eric
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and I were talking about. Eric, were we talking about that?
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: And I think it's I think it's got to be
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: getting to the divisional round of the playoffs this year,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: That's what I think. That's what I think.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the threshold is if they're like three and eight,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: like you might.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Get during the mid season, firing at that point.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but but like, yeah, I think he has
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: to at least go to like the next round of
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: the playoffs.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: To Okay, all right, that's fair, divisional round. All right,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Let's move to the law. To the running back, I mean,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. I'm given an A plus. I'm phenomenal. It's
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: just great to have a top tier quarterback for this team.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I think he did everything he was asked to do
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: by this coaching staff and then some I'm giving him
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: an a plus. What do Eric, what do you give
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: him a plus?
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: And I thought Ken Gamewell like when he was on
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: the field when.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Barkley was out for a little while, because I was
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: scared to death by the way, were you guys, Oh
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Barkley wasn't coming back.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: Oh my god.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I just assumed it was they
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: were giving him a blow, but you know.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he got up awkwardly. That won play, and I
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: got concerned. But I thought game well, played well too.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: His stats don't show that, but he was. He was
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: good too. I I my one concern going forward. It's
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: a heavy load for him. Yeah, and he does have
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: an injury history. I'm just hoping, like we don't rush him,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: you know, like we did tonight. I'm hoping like he
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: gets kind of a break throughout the season again, this game,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: we should probably just throw this game out as fans, like,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: let's just not pay attention to this piece of ship.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: It's such a weird game. Yeah.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: But but but the workload is a little concerning, you know,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: considering how much he was on the field.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeahlen, what do you what do you give Saquon
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Barkley and the running backs in general?
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I want to save an A plus grade for like
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: that that ridiculous like two hundred yards you know, in
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: a game, and you know, three to three or four
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: touchdown like like that kind of game, like when Nick
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Foles threw seven touchdowns in a game.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I get you.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's a plus. So I'm gonna give him an A.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: But I mean, don't get me wrong. I loved what
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: he did, how he looked, the whole thing. I mean,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: I thought he was phenomenal. He's the best player on
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: the field.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, he definitely was the best player on offense for sure. Okay,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: let's move to the receivers, including tight end. Like I
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: said earlier, I think they did everything they were asked
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: to do. It was really you know, when balls were
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: not being caught, It wasn't that they were being dropped
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: in this game at all. Devonte Smith, AJ Brown, Dallas Goddard,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: the running backs, they did what they needed to do
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: in this game catching balls. So I'm giving the receivers
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: an a minus this week. What do you what do
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: you give him? Len?
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: A minus sounds good to me. I think that Brown
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: and Smith were both great. I wanted to see a
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: little bit more of Johan Dotson, who really didn't not
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: really didn't.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: He didn't do anything in this game.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's it.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's early. He just came to the team.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: So I get it, you know, I get the fact
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: that he wasn't really involved.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: And hopefully that deck.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Rows, you know, as the weeks go by and he gets,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: you know a little more acclimated to the system and
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: all that good stuff.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: But yeah, A minus. I thought it was a pretty strong.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Game by all the the main participants in the wide
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: receiver corps.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: You're thinking around that area too, Eric A minus sish.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: B plus.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Just before the Dallas Goddard disappearance act, which seems to
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: happen in most games, we talked about that during the
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: show a couple weeks ago, Like he's kind of been
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: declining year after year, but still has that weird status
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: in the league, like he's one of the top tight ends.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: Like is he really sure? Is that more scheme?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Is that him?
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure? But like again he was targeted what
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: how many times?
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I think five times? Yeah?
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for thirty one yards not you kind of need
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: him in this thing because the receiver are gonna get
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: double team left and right. But man Smith and Brown
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: would have won two punch, Like this is.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: A good secondary.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Think what are we going to do against like teams
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: that just have a ship secondary? Like we played the Coms.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: How are they going to block? Are they gonna been
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: these two? It's not gonna happen.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Come all over, you're gonna reverse it?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Oh my god?
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Oh all right. The offensive line, I'm gonna give them
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: a bee this week. I give him a bee because
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I think they were pretty pretty damn good with regard
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: to the run game, pretty good in past protection, although
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: struggling here and there. You had Lane Johnson giving up
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: a sack and I think that was probably gonna be
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: an off sides call on that defender. He still gave
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: up the sack, which is bizarre and and maybe being
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: a little nitpicky about that, considering Lane Johnson really doesn't
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: give up sacks. But every now and then, there were
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit of struggles in past protection that right
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: guard position a little a little shaky here and there
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: throughout the game. So I'm gonna give him a bee
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: this week, Lenn, what do you give the offensive line?
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I think B is fair.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, yeah, there are a couple of sacks
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: on Hurts and you know, but the running game, I
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: think they got some good push. Yeah, well they needed too.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: I think B is fair. I mean, given given what happened.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, Eric, do you think B is uh kind of fair?
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Where we're at right now? What do you think?
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: I go B plus I mean, honestly, this is the
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: first game playing together, and like this is this is
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: a brand new offensive line.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: You're going from like the same offensive line for.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: How many years in this team with the Kai Becton.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: A guard that's scared the ship.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: When I saw him starting, I'm like, oh my god.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: But like really like they really did open up a
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: lot of holes for Barkley and I considering everything in
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Cam Jurgen's like first real start at center on National TV.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: He knows Kelsey's at home tweeting out stuff like like
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: that had to be.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: A literally every other commercial too.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: By the way, well that's a whole nother show.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: The Kelsey's on the couch eating chips and dip is
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: going to be all year long. And I but if
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: you follow Kelsey on on Twitter, it was actually really good.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: He was actually texting or tweeting out like really good
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: smart you know, analytic football. But I had to get
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: a better grade than you guys at that B plus
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: considering like the spot they're in.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, move over to the defense, the defensive line, I
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: am going to give them a h I'm actually going
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: to give him a D plus. I hate I hate
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: saying the word plus because it makes it seem like
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: there are something there. So maybe I'll just give him
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: a D. Actually, like we said before, just no pressure
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: at all coming uh to Jordan Love and they just
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the guys we thought that needed to step up, just
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: didn't didn't step up at all at all, Like we
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: talked about earlier, Eric, what do you think with regard
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: to the defensive line, I give again, I'm giving him
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: a D. What do you give them?
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: I C minus Jordan Loves had a shit ton of time.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: He was really never running around except for the time
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: he possibly got hurt. But uh again, the tackles wore down,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: the edge rushers just weren't there, and just a lot
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: of pressure. And Josh Jacobs, you know, he has the name,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: he's from Alabama and he you know, he came to
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Green Bay and like to resurrect his career. He had
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: a good game and it's like he's not that good
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: and he still struggled against it against like a team
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: that just doesn't have much a running game. And I again,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: that's my number one fear. It wasn't That was one
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: of my biggest fears going into the season. It's still
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: still remains. I'm not sure what the hell's going on there?
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: All right, Len, what do you think with regard to
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the defensive line, I'll.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Go D plus, you know, no push. It's funny.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I was I was reading an article before you know,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: this morning, before you know, the well before the game,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: and it was just Kuiper doing his list of like,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: you know, not not a mock draft, but how he
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: ranks guys. And I'm already looking at certain positions, and
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: defensive end is absolutely positively one of them, like in
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: terms of where they need to really like get some
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: talent infused in there. And I just I think the
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: edge rushers provided nothing. Like you said, the defensive tackles,
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: who are the most import part of the defense, they
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: wore down. They wore down really quickly. So I gotta wonder, like,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: is this just we're not in shape yet or is
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: this gonna be an all year things.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I hope to god they're out of shape.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, they better get in shape really quick. They
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: got a week to get into shape, all right. The linebackers,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give the linebackers. I can't believe I'm saying
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: this for an Eagles linebacker corp. I'm gonna give them
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: an a minus. And and the minus is coming from
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the fact that you know, the like we said, pass
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: coverage not the best, and I and I and we
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: knew that with this this talent, that that they weren't
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: necessarily gonna be great in coverage, and uh, they still
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: held their own the pursuit to the ball continuously from
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Nakobe Dean and from Zac Bond. I'm giving him an
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: a minus. What do you give them?
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Eric?
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: Oh, definitely a minus.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: And I'm grading on a curve because we probably thought,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: like C C plus, who's going to be their performance
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: this game, just because who are these guys?
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: They don't have any games.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: But like I said earlier, the speed was the thing
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: that really jumped out and they really they really saved
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: the defensive lines ass tonight in this game.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: They absolutely did lend What do you think with the linebackers,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: what grade do you give them?
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: I think that a minus is more than fair that
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: you guys gave them.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I think they did a lot of good things there.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: You know, the coverage.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of worry there in terms of, you know,
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: if that becomes in all your thing.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: But I thought, I.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Mean, like you said, given what we're used to with
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: linebackers with this.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Seam, I'll take it. Yeah, I'll definitely take it mighty.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Alrighty secondary, I'm going to give the secondary a B minus. Actually,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: even though they gave up some explosive plays C. J.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson, Eric, I think, as you mentioned earlier, didn't
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: have the greatest game in the world. I mean that
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: one whiff of a tackle that led to the the
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: the Jayden Reid touchdown, that's long, seventy yarder, bad play,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: and he was completely out of position on that play.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: But again, you have Quinnon, Mitchell, read Blankenship playing very
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: very well, and we really didn't hear Slay's name too
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: much out there, and that's that's kind of a good thing.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: He was shut he was shutting some guys down as well.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give the secondary a B minus Lynn.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: What do you give him?
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned Slay man. I I just, man,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I can't think of a the last time.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: I've just not heard his name at all during which,
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: like you said, is a good good thing. Yeah, just
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: not heard his name at all over.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: The course of the game.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I guess if that was the case, he
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: played a good game. You know, I loved what I
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: saw out of Mitchell. You know, Gardner Johnson had you know,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: one or two plays or it was just like, oh man,
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: he's out.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Of position, like he said on on on that uh
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: that one touchdown.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: He looked really bad there and he was the deep
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: guy in coverage, like he just completely went to the
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: wrong side of the field. But all in all, I
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: thought they were decent.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Blanket ship had that fantastic interception.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: He had to pick.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: I think it's the the unit with the most you know,
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: growth potential and one that I think will be maybe
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: the most fun to follow given the investment made in
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: the secondary over the course of this year.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I'm excited to follow them throughout the year. Yeah.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I thought they did a really good job.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've given him a B minus. Eric, What do
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: you think I mean? It's lake Len said, it's gonna
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: be an interesting storyline this secondary, you know, given given
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: how young they are, and uh, you know, there's a
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: high ceiling for these guys. What do you think they're great?
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: Is here? Just real quick?
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: So every year we all get together our friends and
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I like for a weekend for the draft, right yeah,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: and we're on our late forties now, and the second
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: night of that weekend we start to yawn and get
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: a little tired. The first night's like, yeah, we're doing this,
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: and the second night's like.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Okay, we're still We're still going for We're all tired.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: That's what the show feels like.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm yatting my ass off over here. I
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: wasn't going to mention it.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I'm glad I was going to mention it, but I'm like,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to mention it.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: I'm trying.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Man, the secondary gets to be I'm gonna go a
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: little higher than you guys, all right. I think Darius
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Slay was quiet because they targeted Mitchell the whole game.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think like they kind of.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Went away from Sleigh and it's the kids first game
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: in the NFL. I thought, you know, he had one
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: or two bad plays, but overall, man, like, what a
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: what a first game performance in my opinion.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: And on the shoulder too.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: And I love that because he went to a small
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: school and that was smart of how he to to
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: realize that I went he went to Toledo and he's like,
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: fuck all y'all.
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: I'm like, he got in guy's face. And I love
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: that that he kind of that.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: I just like that fire and between him and blanken
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Ship they kind of saved the game for them because
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: those receivers for the Packers are frightening like that Red
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: and my god like but yeah, a B And I'm
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: really interested in seeing with with Dejene de June.
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: Whatever he can give you this year.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Like that, I agree with the line, Like, that's really
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: the most Like I wonder what's gonna happen this season
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: with the secondary.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get into some coaching grades. Well let's uh,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: let's let's grade the special teams here, special teams. Jesus,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: all right, I don't think they should call it the
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: dynamic kickoff anymore?
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. In the preseason it was it
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: was not bad because like teams were actually like experimenting
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: with it, kicking it to the four yard line, five
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: yard line, making guys bring the ball out. It was
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: actually like it was actually fun during the preseason. This game, nope.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Yesterday during the Ravens and Chiefs game, Nope, it was garbage.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a little bit of disclosure here.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Okay, I I had, you know, read that the Eagles
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: weren't going to be playing their their starters at all
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: in the preseason, right.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: I did not watch any preseason.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, last night I watched a little bit of the
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: Chiefs and Ravens.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Then I saw a kickoff and I was like, wait,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: what are they doing? I was like, what the hell
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: is this? You didn't read about it?
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: I watched again and I was like, this is the
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life, this dynamic kickoffs.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be great. But man, during
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: the regular season, here so far, oh boy, terrible. I mean,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: you've got illegal formation by the Eagles on the opening
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: kickoff by Keeley Ringo. It's like, my God, of course
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna work. And then Kenny Gainwell messing up
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: the Eagles first kickoff return. I don't know I'm gonna
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: give special teams. I don't know, I'll give them a bee.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I guess what do you give them?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Len?
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, Elliott was Elliott. He's, you know, as reliable
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: as you can ask for out of the kicking game.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: You know, I thought they were decent when you know
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: the you know, the kickoffs. I don't even know what
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: to make of that. And that I have a film
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: that's gonna be an all year long kind of thing
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: where I'm just like looking at these kickoffs and going,
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know how do I grade this?
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I thought they were Okay, I'll
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: give them a bee?
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, what do you give special teams?
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Eric?
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: And I just provide you my my father's kickoff review
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: or like review, Yes.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear this.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: He's so, He's like you, Len, he didn't watch any
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: he had no idea they changed the kickoff rules in
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: the NFL. So you actually watched the game tonight. He's
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: seventy four and he just texts my brother and I
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: what the hell is this kickoff thing?
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: And I was like, you.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Speak for America. By the way, I don't know. This
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: is like watching The.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Homeless Guy when I lived in Philly on the corner
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: screaming and yelling about God, and he's he knows Jesus.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: It's like I don't know what he's doing, but he
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: seems to know. The NFL seems to know something we don't.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: I think it's stupid as shit. It nothing happens. Just
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: give them the ball to the twenty yard line and
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: just just push the game along, Like what is the point?
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: And then when it actually like comes into play they
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: wanted to like get away from like guys hit banging heads.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well they're still crushing each other.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: What the hell is the It's so stupid, like either
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: do the original one or just give the ball whatever
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: the special teams give an a because I just throw
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: the kickoffs out of the out the window and and
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: and Braden Man averaged fifty yards per punt and Elliott
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: hit hit all his field goals and extra points, so
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: a plus awesome job.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: All right, Oh, wait, before you like to the first half, Like,
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: my wife was down here for that watching the game
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: with me, and she said, what what's happening with the kickoffs?
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: That I had to look her dead in the eye
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: and go, I genuinely don't know.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: That's that's the first rule of like just be just like, yeah,
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: That is I'm on a sports podcast. I don't know.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the defense. Vic Fangio got
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: it right, Ah, sweet boy, got it right, all right,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Vic Fangio. I am going to give him a grade
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: of a bee this week. I don't know. Maybe maybe
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I'm being a little harsh given what we saw, but
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: you know, you do give up twenty nine points. It
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: was a bizarre situation. You're in another country, the field
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: is weird. It's the first time a lot of these guys,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: especially a young young second, trying to come together. Who
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: did I think prove a lot, but a terrible, terrible
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: pass rush. You've got a ton of holes one hundred
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: and sixty three yards on the ground you're giving up.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him a bee. I don't know if
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: that's being too kind. I don't know if that's being
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: too you know, too generous, or being too hard on him.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Eric, what do you think? What grade
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: do you give Fangio?
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Well, considering last season, they had no scheme by the
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: end of the year, Matt Patricia disaster.
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: Yes, I did see what he was trying to do.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I think he recognized the speed he had at linebacker,
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: and his secondary was good, and you're playing against a
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: really dynamic offense. I thought I give a B plus
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: because you really I didn't Maybe he didn't even know
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: what the hell was gonna have in the first game
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: because they didn't play in the preseason. So I thought
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: both sides of the ball, the scheme was good and
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: it was just kind of like the players could could
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: facilitate it. But I thought the defensive scheme was smart
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: and and you still won the game. You're going to
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: give up points against this team. There's just no way
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: around it.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Right, all right, Lenn what do you give the defensive
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: coordinator this week?
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: B plus?
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: You know I mentioned it earlier with the beginning of
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: the game, with the way it started, that could have
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: gotten out of hand, yeah, really quick, and him and
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: his play calling in the defensive effort, they kept that
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: from happening. And like Eric said, you're going to give
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: up points to this team. They're a great offense. They're
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: they're great. You know, they've got great receiving, a good
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: young quarterback. You're going to give up points there. So
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: the fact that they won this game, the fact that
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: they weathered that initial storm, I think it's fair to
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: give them at least a B plus, And that's what
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: I'm giving them.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: All right, And finally we'll move to the offense. Nick
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Sirianni Kellen Moore, I am going to give them a
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: straight up BE as well. A lot of slop we
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: saw from this offense, specifically from Jalen Hurts at certain
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: times during the game, and we also saw some fantastic
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: play calling, some great great plays being run by the
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: offense too. So I'm gonna give an overall B could
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: be a B plus, but I'm gonna keep the offense
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: and defense at b's here. So, Lynn, what do you
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: think with regard to Kellen Moore, Nick Sirianni here.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Who does what?
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Well? Now, Kellen Moore, Kellen Moore is calling the plays,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: you know, and Nick Sirianni, he's kind of like, I
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: look at him as he's kind of taken that Mike
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Tomlin role of kind of the hind kind of the
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: guy that groups them all together, you know, kind of
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: the cheerleader guy that groups them all together.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, because Comparrison, Mike Tomlin is an awesome coach, but.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Like's not calling plays. That's what I made, you know.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: So if Kellen Moore is calling the plays, and with
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: regards to Sirianni, I feel like the bob's from office space?
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: What is it you'd say you do here? So I
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, listen, you know, hurts Ha's got some
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: things he's got to iron out. I don't think that's
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: on the play calling. I don't, you know, blame them
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: for that. You know, they they put up thirty four points.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: It's a good point, I don't.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard to really bitch about that. So
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: I'll give them play calling. I'll give them a b plus.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Eric, are you thinking the same B
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: B plus with regard to the offensive coaching.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if I could go in complete, I
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: would because this game was such such a weird thing.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: But they they put up four and ten yards and
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: thirty four points against a really good team, so I
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: can't complain too much. I think I want to see
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Kellen Moore's his play calling and is in his scheme
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: with a team that's like like in week four, when
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: they kind of have their feet underneath them, maybe they'll
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: be a little more dynamic, a little more better performance.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: But I guess for now just a be like kind
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: of being let's see what how it looks next week.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: All right, very good. That's gonna do it for us, folks.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: For this first Eagles postgame podcast show of this season.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: And we've said a number of times on this platform
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: over the months. New defensive coordinator, new offensive coordinator, there's
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: gonna be some hiccups along the way. We certainly saw
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: it some here in Week one, and we're certainly gonna
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: see some as Eric was just saying, you know, over
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: the course of these next few weeks. Hopefully by week
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: four they get their feet under them and start seeing
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: a more consistency. But overall, it's a win, and a
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: win's a win. So Eric, you got anything else before
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: we hit out? Buddy?
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: No, it's one am, all right, all right? Anything else?
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Len?
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Do you have anything else? Buddy?
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: I just remember at the end of last season, we
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: were like, oh god, this whole back seven, this defense
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: seeds to be replaced.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: And the back seven of the defense we don't really
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: seem to have a lot of complaints about, you know,
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: through one game.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean that's good. And the NFL is
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: just between the field, you know.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Uh, you're in a stadium where their their their biggest rival.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: Where is green and you're not supposed to wear green
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: in that stadium. So let's get two teams that wear
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: green and have them come down to Brazil. If I
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: could give the NFL grade, it would be an f.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Great way to end the show. Great way to end
• 54:26
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• 54:34
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• 54:40
  Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time,