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May 4, 2026 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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Speaker 6: So I saw this list that The New York Times did,
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Speaker 6: I don't think I brought it in with me. Of
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Speaker 6: the top thirty living songwriters. Uh, and they said, by design,
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Speaker 6: we took all genres of music.
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Speaker 4: As a result, they were about ten of them I never.
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Speaker 6: Heard of before, you know, And there were so which
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Speaker 6: means there ten or twelve that aren't on the list
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Speaker 6: that that should have been.
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Speaker 4: But you know, they just they do that now. None
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Speaker 4: of us. I get the fact.
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Speaker 6: None of us got into this business to talk about
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Speaker 6: budgets and money.
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Speaker 4: Right. We liked sports, we liked the games.
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Speaker 6: It's really hard this day and age not to talk
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Speaker 6: about money, unfortunately, and that's taken some of the fun
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Speaker 6: for me out of sports.
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Speaker 4: I don't know about you. I don't know. Let me
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Speaker 4: check my agents see if I can answer.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's taken a lot out of college athletics, for sure.
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Speaker 6: So the reason I bring this up is because Kyle
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Speaker 6: Wettingham says today there's gonna be twelve to fifteen programs
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Speaker 6: with a fifty million dollar budget in twenty twenty seven,
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Speaker 6: he said, And he said, not many people can handle that.
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Speaker 6: There aren't many programs that can compete with that. And
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Speaker 6: until we get a handle on it, I don't know
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Speaker 6: what's going to happen. We've said that repeatedly but remember, well,
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Speaker 6: I guess he didn't say.
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Speaker 4: I guess it was asked. I'm sure was it two
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Speaker 4: years ago?
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Speaker 6: Ohio say that the twenty two million dollar budget when
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Speaker 6: they won the national title, and everybody said, that's just outrageous,
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Speaker 6: it's outrageous.
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Speaker 4: We can't compete with that. And now it's fifty million. Okay,
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Speaker 4: So I don't I don't know where that stops.
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Speaker 6: I don't again, I don't like to talk about it,
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Speaker 6: and I just like to watch the game.
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Speaker 2: The game is more popular than ever it is in
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Speaker 2: terms of people turning on TV sets now.
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Speaker 4: But it's gonna cost rusty.
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Speaker 6: We know that in the not too distant future, it
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Speaker 6: will cost you to see a big football game in college.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely will right, Well, yeah, it already does. I
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Speaker 2: mean I understand that you know, A and M went
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Speaker 2: up in basketball tickets last year. They're probably gonna go
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Speaker 2: up again because they were just recruited. And I will
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Speaker 2: buy them. Yeah, because I've been invested in this program.
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Speaker 4: Yes, you put an investment in there.
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Speaker 2: And so you know, I gave up the football tickets
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Speaker 2: a long time ago. But yeah, I'm gonna buy them,
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Speaker 2: and I'm not paying nil money. But I mean, I
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Speaker 2: know a whole bunch of guys who are and they're
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Speaker 2: they're invested in it. So it's hard on one hand.
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Speaker 2: You know, I used to love the draft because especially
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Speaker 2: when Aggie's were getting picked in the draft. I mean,
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Speaker 2: we had a record set a number of Aggies picked
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Speaker 2: in the and I didn't care because I didn't I
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Speaker 2: didn't have an attachment to them because most of them
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Speaker 2: have only been there for like.
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Speaker 4: Y two years. So it is professional because we've said that.
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Speaker 6: I've said that for years when we when we grew up,
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Speaker 6: I knew Bob Lily was going to be a Dallas cowboy, right.
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Speaker 4: I knew he wasn't going anywhere.
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Speaker 6: I knew Roger Staubach wasn't going anywhere, right, Uh, they.
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Speaker 4: Were, they were cease. You would say the same about
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Speaker 4: the Steelers, Joe, thank you, Joe Green. You knew they
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Speaker 4: weren't going anywhere practice one day that somebody wanted to meet, right,
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Speaker 4: I mean.
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Speaker 6: Those guys were your team, right, Rusty Nolan Ryan, Now
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Speaker 6: he came along in free agency, so but Pod Rodriguez
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Speaker 6: he eventually left, but still those were our guys. And
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Speaker 6: now it's like, well, they may be here a year
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Speaker 6: or two years have been in how they're to.
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Speaker 2: Me, I've said it's worse than pro sports because at
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Speaker 2: least the the you know, those guys that you associate
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Speaker 2: with sign a long term contract. Like Okay, so I'm
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Speaker 2: a huge I grew up, grew up in Dallas, what
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Speaker 2: Worth like you did, Chip, And I went to the
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Speaker 2: first Mavericks game ever played. So guess who my all
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Speaker 2: time favorite Maverick is. It's Dirk Yeah, I mean he
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Speaker 2: was the one guy he played for one team?
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Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah?
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Speaker 2: And you know.
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Speaker 4: Whoever heard of that's a old fashion it is.
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Speaker 2: And like Lebron, you think about how how many teams
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Speaker 2: did he play for? Yeah, he's great longevity, but you
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Speaker 2: think about it's the Calves, it's the Heat, it's the Lakers.
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Speaker 2: I mean, and so many of these guys, even like show, Hey,
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Speaker 2: who's probably maybe the best baseball player in the history
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Speaker 2: of the game.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Lebron is college judge but.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, but I mean, he's you think of him
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Speaker 2: what I think of him as a Dodger now, I
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Speaker 2: guess because he's wearing the Dodger in uniform and he's
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Speaker 2: one World Series with the Dodgers and never won. Along
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Speaker 2: with the Angels. You know, I don't know, it's I
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Speaker 2: hated it, but but you.
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Speaker 4: Just mentioned that.
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Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's where we are with college right.
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Speaker 6: It's worth it, Yeah, because these guys are coming in
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Speaker 6: every year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you don't have a Casey concepcion as a Maggie,
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I don't know. Getting back to what he's maybe he's
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Speaker 4: started here one year he started. It's all about college football,
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Speaker 4: and I think right now, until they get some kind
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Speaker 4: of parameters, there's no stealing because everybody wants to win.
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Speaker 4: And if you're at LSU and if you're an Auburn,
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Speaker 4: and if you're a high state, you will pay whatever
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Speaker 4: it takes to make that final twelve or final sixteen
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Speaker 4: in college football. I don't think there's any doubt those
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Speaker 4: programs will pay whatever it takes.
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Speaker 2: Well, those those big money programs will And I've said
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Speaker 2: a long time ago that instead of Texas, you know,
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Speaker 2: obviously Texas Tech has stepped up, right, Yep, I didn't.
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Speaker 2: I didn't see that coming. Who did, right? But I
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Speaker 2: mean I knew that this was gonna benefit of A
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Speaker 2: and M in Texas because praying them Now they're put
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Speaker 2: they're putting more graduates out than any other school and
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Speaker 2: in the state, almost any other school in the country.
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Speaker 2: And so the more that this happens, there's gonna be.
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Speaker 4: More, no limit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's gonna be more prospects to give back
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Speaker 2: to the university, right.
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Speaker 4: I see more more multi millionaire. I see Marymount putting
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Speaker 4: an extra maybe a second floor or third floor. You
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Speaker 4: might need more more more.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, room, we can expand at mermat It's exactly right.
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Speaker 4: You know. Is it bad? Is it good? I mean,
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean I get it. I'm from
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Speaker 4: a different generation, and it's all about winning. You if
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Speaker 4: you were at Miami A and M football last year,
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Speaker 4: if I ain't, E would have won that. I mean,
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Speaker 4: oh my gosh, you're going to Dallas. The reason I
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Speaker 4: brought this up is because.
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Speaker 6: The budget athletic budget, you know, has been released, okay,
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Speaker 6: and and they're going to that doesn't include.
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Speaker 2: In IL, does it.
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Speaker 6: It does not include in I L it's it's it's
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Speaker 6: it's the budget for the athletic department.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay.
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Speaker 6: So they have come up with a seven point two
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Speaker 6: million dollar loss for twenty six and four and a
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Speaker 6: half million dollar loss for twenty seven and the idea
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Speaker 6: I heard one of the regents on the news this
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Speaker 6: morning saying, look, we're going to have to make that
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Speaker 6: up from somewhere and they'll they'll probably get somebody to
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Speaker 6: write a check, I guess, but.
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Speaker 4: Beds will come back. Well I'm getting there too.
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Speaker 6: But you know, when you start looking at ideas like
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Speaker 6: a budget deficit, we've seen what that does around here.
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Speaker 4: You know you can't do that in.
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Speaker 2: Perpetuity, right, you can't fire Jimbo with that long a contract, right, Yes.
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Speaker 4: You can't do it. Maybe that was a bad idea,
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Speaker 4: I think.
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Speaker 2: Who knows. Yeah, I mean, here's the deal that somebody
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Speaker 2: will write the check cover that you said a seven
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Speaker 2: million dollars loss.
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Speaker 4: Seven million projected this year in four and a half billion, Yeah, day,
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Speaker 4: so much.
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Speaker 2: They can find a couple of folks that write that check.
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Speaker 4: All right, you might got to McDonald's drive to and
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Speaker 4: get that.
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Speaker 2: No, but I know who I would go to first.
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Speaker 2: You know, there's there's a there's a hand rule.
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Speaker 4: It's not it's not.
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Speaker 2: No, there's a handful of folks I'd be calling first.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, there's there's some very, very successful at he's
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Speaker 2: out there, and.
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Speaker 4: Like I said, it's it's it's well. The way the
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Speaker 4: game's playing.
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Speaker 2: Right now, that's just the way it is well.
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Speaker 4: And how many can play it, that's the question.
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Speaker 2: I think A and M can play I'm sure, I'm not.
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Speaker 4: I'm not suggesting they can't.
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Speaker 2: I don't think Baylor can play it. I don't think
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Speaker 2: you can play it. I don't think most of these schools.
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Speaker 2: I think A M and Texas Houston can't do it.
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Speaker 4: No, but obviously Texas Tech might. But here's what interesting is.
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Speaker 4: I went with how long can I do it?
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Speaker 2: Though?
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Speaker 4: I went with my I had lunch with my college
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Speaker 4: buddy last two weeks ago now and he helps fundraise
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Speaker 4: for he's in A Monroe and he was telling me
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Speaker 4: the stories about how bad those kind of programs were. Oh,
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Speaker 4: I can't imagine, and you can imagine. I don't know
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Speaker 4: where they're going to go in the future because the
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Speaker 4: Ohio States in A and M's they need somebody to
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Speaker 4: beat I mean even I, you know, you need someone
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Speaker 4: to beat up. And I don't know, don't know what
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Speaker 4: they're going to get their money.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be some version of pro football. It'll
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Speaker 2: be forty fifty teams, correct, and they'll be separate from
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Speaker 2: all other sports. Yes, and it'll it'll be a version.
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Speaker 4: Of pro football.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean that's what it'll be.
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Speaker 4: I bet you. I think I'll have divisions. Yeah, but
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Speaker 4: right now, let's be honest. The President's Universe and chancellors
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Speaker 4: still want to steal like it's amateur sports. You know,
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Speaker 4: they still want that. I don't know.
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Speaker 6: I haven't heard that season, But I don't know how
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Speaker 6: they can do. I have not heard that in a
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Speaker 6: long time. And I tell you what else. We haven't
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Speaker 6: heard from here to the West coast to the East coast.
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Speaker 6: We haven't heard from any presidents or chancellors since all
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Speaker 6: this stuff starts.
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Speaker 4: It now, we haven't heard anybody pulling there.
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Speaker 6: How, we haven't heard anybody coming in with suggestions about
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Speaker 6: how they're going to rain this in.
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Speaker 4: Not once.
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Speaker 6: We've heard from athletic directors. We've heard from the TV people,
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Speaker 6: We've heard from the Greg Sankies of the world, and
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Speaker 6: the Commissioners of the world and the CFP people. But
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Speaker 6: we haven't heard from the presidents and the chancellors.
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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, Well, and.
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Speaker 2: The other thing is we don't see these massive buildings
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Speaker 2: coming up anymore either, for the most part, because the facilities,
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Speaker 2: the investment doesn't have to be in facilities anymore. So
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Speaker 2: a M's got great facilities. Yes, I know they're building
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Speaker 2: something over there baseball too, but I mean, for the
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Speaker 2: most part, for the most part, you're not going to
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Speaker 2: be invested in this money in facilities anymore. And so
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Speaker 2: it's it's shifting from all because i mean the arms.
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Speaker 4: Race for a long time, that was the arm stretch.
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Speaker 2: Sure, so now they got all these facilities. Now they're
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Speaker 2: just going to go pay pay the players, and it's
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Speaker 2: going to be all about how good point you pay
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Speaker 2: the players?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, bring up a good point, because, let's be honest,
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Speaker 4: out of the blue, you know, it kind of kind
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Speaker 4: of goes out of blue that Texas and know you
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Speaker 4: joined the SEC, you know the Big Ten, We know
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Speaker 4: the Big Ten and SEC rules everything. Someday they're probably
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Speaker 4: gonna get together in Canada or Mexico and then suddenly
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Speaker 4: you're gonna have this fifty or sixty and then what
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Speaker 4: can the NCAA do. I'm just saying it could happen.
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Speaker 4: When you're saying to everybody's being quiet and then everybody's
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Speaker 4: gonna say, hey, we can't pay safy five million dollars
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Speaker 4: for a football team.
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Speaker 2: Well, but see here, here's here's the key I think
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Speaker 2: moving forward is that these programs you know, I mean
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Speaker 2: boom Pickings at Oklahoma State, right, Yeah, he funded all
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Speaker 2: those facilities, right, He single handily put Oklahoma State on
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Speaker 2: the facilities, Matt point. But you cannot do this consistently,
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Speaker 2: like you said, with one major donor. And that's why
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Speaker 2: I doubt Texas Tech can keep doing this after that
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Speaker 2: donor's gone, right, I mean, I don't know the more
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be key that you have more.
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Speaker 6: Multimillion Well, and I have read about this just a
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Speaker 6: little bit. And where as long as you brought Tech
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Speaker 6: up and they're a they're they're like a poster program
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Speaker 6: for what's going on now, right that you can't you
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Speaker 6: can invest money and have success, right. Well, Cody Campbell
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Speaker 6: has gotten some of his oil buddies involved. It's just
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Speaker 6: not Obviously he's written a lot of checks, right and
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Speaker 6: as long as he's around, will continue to write a
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Speaker 6: lot of checks. But he has gotten others involved. And
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Speaker 6: I would argue that for the Cody Campbell's of the world.
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Speaker 4: They run in the circles that I don't run in.
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Speaker 4: So he can pick up the phone and call Jack.
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Speaker 6: Down at the Petroleum Club and say Jack, I just
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Speaker 6: wrote a fifty million dollar check. I'm asking you just
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Speaker 6: for a couple of million, right, And I.
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Speaker 2: Think it's more important now. So I wondered what the
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Speaker 2: point would be where Adam said enough is enough on
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Speaker 2: the enrollment. Well, now you want the all had enrollment
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Speaker 2: because you have a better chance of getting multimillionaires out
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Speaker 2: of that incredible workforce going out.
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Speaker 6: We've got a payroll to meet, exactly, right, and the
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Speaker 6: words of the former governor, We've got a payroll to meet.
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Speaker 2: It's exactly on some ship.
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Speaker 4: Probably Campbell's given honorary degrees to a lot of US buddies.
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Speaker 4: They're suddenly Texas tech grads because they're writing fifty million.
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Speaker 2: SMU paid their way into the ACC right enough, Yes,
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Speaker 2: then they had enough welfare. But again, my question is
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Speaker 2: it sustains ken Baylor in SMU and TCU, which has
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Speaker 2: a lot of like multimillionaires, but I also know they
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Speaker 2: don't have as many.
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Speaker 6: Yes, is it it's sustainable?
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Speaker 2: Exactly? That's my question.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't.
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Speaker 6: I don't, but I've been asking this question during the
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Speaker 6: arms race twenty five and thirty years ago.
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Speaker 4: It's like, well, how much is enough? How much can
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Speaker 4: they spend?
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Speaker 6: Well, apparently there's more, right because now we're talking about
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Speaker 6: a fifty million dollar football team. Okay, when before twenty
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Speaker 6: million was outrageous.
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Speaker 4: Not just a few years ago. You said, just two
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Speaker 4: years ago, fifty, it's gonna be one hundred.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I remember, you know, back when I
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Speaker 2: started with twelve Man Foundation. But this is like in
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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight, in the list of big time multimillionaires
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Speaker 2: that were in our donor base was pretty nar small.
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Speaker 2: I mean, but now I look at that and I
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Speaker 2: was like, that's expanded a whole heck of a lot.
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Speaker 6: Also, there's there's been a lot more graduates, rusty, you know,
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Speaker 6: a lot more successful.
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Speaker 2: People, did a lot more opportunities, a new generation, right.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's guys that you know, I mean, Archiaplin
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Speaker 2: and Dan TINKERRS Distribution up and mckinn Jay Graham what
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Speaker 2: he's done in his success and so it's gone a
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Speaker 2: long way from the bum bright.
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I remember those days.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, So there was just a lot less, right, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and now it's like, you know the six million dollar donors,
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Speaker 2: and you know that was a huge deal.
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Speaker 4: We named his own, no doubt. We've all seen the
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Speaker 4: problem when you get twelve or fifteen all paying the
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Speaker 4: bill that they all want to be the boss. And
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Speaker 4: sometimes it gets to be problems. Sometimes sometimes it'll be
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Speaker 4: interested to see how that works. When you got some
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Speaker 4: school again, we paid this fifty million dollars. I want
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Speaker 4: to say, who the coach is. I want to say what.
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Speaker 6: Happened to Well, see, you already know this, so I'm
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Speaker 6: not telling you anything new. But that's been going on forever.
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Speaker 6: In progess, follow the money, you know, that's not new.
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Speaker 6: It's just the price has gone out.
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Speaker 4: Pay more.
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Speaker 6: But the philosophy is not new, right, I mean that
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Speaker 6: that's been around.
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Speaker 4: You can't tell me Campbell's I'll call it all the shots.
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Speaker 4: Of course he is every sport I had done softball.
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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, but but again nothing new there just more money,
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Speaker 6: just a lot more money.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I think that the coaches play a big
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Speaker 2: deal of that in the relationship that they have with
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Speaker 2: these donors, because there they need to call them up
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Speaker 2: personally and say, you know, back when they were doing
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Speaker 2: the facilities, I don't know how much the coaches had,
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Speaker 2: you know, involvement directly with those with those prospects, and
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Speaker 2: I know they had some. But right now, it's how
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Speaker 2: much is Mike Elko willing to go ask this multi
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Speaker 2: millionaire for this? This is who we need and this
17:47
Speaker 2: is what we need. I need to pick up the phone.
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Speaker 2: Or how much is Bucky? How many people is Bucky
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Speaker 2: actually going to say, listen, we got a chance to
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Speaker 2: get this guy, but I need this, Okay, I mean
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Speaker 2: we're competing again. Yes, we can get this kidfrom Cannons State.
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Speaker 2: He's the leading returner.
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Speaker 4: Yeh yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's gonna cost.
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Speaker 4: It's gonna cost. So you know, you know, we we've
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Speaker 4: talked about this again.
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Speaker 6: It's not totally new, uh you know I I we
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Speaker 6: talked six seven, eight years ago.
18:21
Speaker 4: The reason Coach.
18:22
Speaker 6: Lee we talked about this, the reason coach Leech didn't
18:30
Speaker 6: wasn't at bigger schools, right because he wasn't gonna hobmed
18:34
Speaker 6: up with the donors, right.
18:36
Speaker 4: He just wasn't going to do it.
18:38
Speaker 6: And I feel like that cost him a job at
18:41
Speaker 6: at some place like this or wherever that Hey, I'm sorry,
18:45
Speaker 6: but that comes with the territory, right, And he's like, no.
18:50
Speaker 6: He goes, if if you want to win football games,
18:52
Speaker 6: and he went to schools that were, you know, that
18:54
Speaker 6: hadn't had any success and said, we'll win football. But
18:59
Speaker 6: don't expect me to to all of these after parties
19:02
Speaker 6: and and and and and spent and.
19:04
Speaker 4: Go to lunch with the biggest donor. I'm not gonna
19:07
Speaker 4: do it, right.
19:09
Speaker 6: I would argue that there's still a handful of coaches
19:12
Speaker 6: like that, but if there are, they're not going to
19:15
Speaker 6: be coaching these big schools anymore.
19:17
Speaker 2: Nick Saban.
19:19
Speaker 4: He quit, but he lost because that's why he quick quit.
19:23
Speaker 2: He quit.
19:23
Speaker 4: He does I'm not going to do it. He doesn't
19:25
Speaker 4: want to talk to players agents. Correct, I'm not gonna
19:28
Speaker 4: play that game.
19:29
Speaker 2: And and those guys aren't gonna play that game anymore either,
19:32
Speaker 2: would agree.
19:33
Speaker 4: Yes, Now, I.
19:33
Speaker 2: Mean I think you got to get like, what's amazing
19:36
Speaker 2: is that Bucky's getting all these guys to buy into
19:39
Speaker 2: his system. Yes, And he goes back to coaching, and
19:43
Speaker 2: he goes back to how much success can we have here?
19:46
Speaker 2: And Bucky showed right away in the first season that
19:50
Speaker 2: we can be successful here, and I'm sure his sales
19:52
Speaker 2: pitcher was, we didn't have great talent. So if you
19:57
Speaker 2: come here, now.
19:58
Speaker 4: I've won without talent.
20:00
Speaker 2: So what can we do with you? You know, now
20:02
Speaker 2: we got scored. Yeah, now we got some height.
20:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you look what you mentioned like, it's hard.
20:08
Speaker 2: You have to win.
20:09
Speaker 4: It's hard to say your case conce and Otam and
20:14
Speaker 4: Burkebcher or whatever his name was, is a naggie because
20:17
Speaker 4: they're here one year, but yet on.
20:19
Speaker 2: The same it's not a great time. I said that.
20:22
Speaker 2: Now I have to kind of like, uh, contradict myself
20:25
Speaker 2: here because I was all bored with a g being
20:28
Speaker 2: an aggie, right because he bought a head and so
20:32
Speaker 2: you wanted to win. Yeah, I get I guess that
20:35
Speaker 2: was because I'm more tied to basketball saying.
20:37
Speaker 4: You know what, skin is Hel is a great judge
20:40
Speaker 4: of talent, and there's something to be said for that. Man.
20:42
Speaker 6: You still have to have coaching, You've got to get
20:44
Speaker 6: your money, you still have to.
20:46
Speaker 4: Coach, still have to coaching, no matter what.
20:48
Speaker 2: The talent evaluation is more important than ever. Oh my gosh,
20:51
Speaker 2: because you're looking at this guy, you're not his potential
20:54
Speaker 2: down the road. You're looking at what can he do?
20:56
Speaker 6: Not not only talent evaluation, but as we've said, you
21:00
Speaker 6: have a year how much, right, you have a year.
21:02
Speaker 4: With a new team every single year. Right, you have
21:06
Speaker 4: a year to make it work. And how much is
21:08
Speaker 4: Indiana gonna lose under quarterback? That's a gambler that they
21:11
Speaker 4: gambled on him, and they're gonna lose a lot of
21:12
Speaker 4: money if he can't play.
21:14
Speaker 2: Right.
21:14
Speaker 4: But uh, Texas, Texas, Texas Tech. I'm sorry, Texas Tech
21:19
Speaker 4: lost the quarterback to gamble.
21:20
Speaker 6: Let me get Yeah, yeah, Texas Tech lost the quarterback
21:23
Speaker 6: to gambling.
21:23
Speaker 4: My I up, guy, man like that was that was
21:26
Speaker 4: Texas Tech? Well that Texas could afford it, they'll buy
21:28
Speaker 4: another one then.
21:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little light and Bible one right now, Yeah, all.
21:34
Speaker 4: Right, get somebody out of the NBA U League. Yeah whatever, Yeah,
21:40
Speaker 4: it's it's I missed reading that fifty million So no
21:44
Speaker 4: wonder he left Utah? You know, yes, much money in Utah? No, exactly,
21:48
Speaker 4: exactly right, So I mean, yeah, he's a perfect example.
21:51
Speaker 7: He is.
21:52
Speaker 2: He he had to go to a have because maybe
21:55
Speaker 2: it's a lot less than I originally thought, because I
21:59
Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be forty fifty schools. I don't
22:01
Speaker 2: know how many can actually come up with that.
22:03
Speaker 4: I don't either. I mean, that's that's the question, isn't it.
22:07
Speaker 4: You came up with the money if you want to
22:09
Speaker 4: be if you want to go to that country club,
22:11
Speaker 4: or you want to be in that club.
22:12
Speaker 2: They did with the money. They did it for one year,
22:16
Speaker 2: and they did it to get into the ACC and
22:18
Speaker 2: the ACC was pressing up, and obviously they did it
22:22
Speaker 2: to get into the playoffs, right, and it's worked, it's worked,
22:26
Speaker 2: but they didn't get into the playoffs this last year.
22:29
Speaker 2: And it's like that they just.
22:30
Speaker 4: Gave their coach a whole lot of money to stay.
22:33
Speaker 4: So so, I.
22:34
Speaker 2: Mean, it'll be interesting to see if they can do it.
22:38
Speaker 4: These repeated Well.
22:41
Speaker 2: I know they got some money s I ME and
22:42
Speaker 2: TCU and Baylor, but do they have enough people to
22:46
Speaker 2: do it?
22:47
Speaker 4: Look?
22:47
Speaker 6: Here, here's here's another argument that we've made repeatedly. The
22:54
Speaker 6: more the bigger checks that these guys, right, the bigger
22:59
Speaker 6: the check they write, the expectations go with that, right, right,
23:06
Speaker 6: So if you're not and if they raise it to
23:09
Speaker 6: twenty four, I mean, so then you're gonna have twenty
23:13
Speaker 6: four teams that are paying, or at least twenty of
23:17
Speaker 6: those twenty four that are going to.
23:19
Speaker 2: Be up there, right, getting your name on that player, right,
23:23
Speaker 2: you used to get your name on the building, that's right,
23:25
Speaker 2: But you're not getting your name on that player. You
23:27
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, so it's a lot
23:30
Speaker 2: less of an ego thing.
23:31
Speaker 4: Well, I would.
23:33
Speaker 6: Argue that with that, With that check for that player,
23:38
Speaker 6: you do get access.
23:40
Speaker 4: So that buys you access.
23:42
Speaker 6: It buys you access to the coach, It buys you
23:45
Speaker 6: access to the players. Back in the SMU scandal days
23:51
Speaker 6: in the early eighties, it bought you access. Money has
23:56
Speaker 6: always and whether it's politics, it doesn't matter what field
24:00
Speaker 6: you're talking about.
24:01
Speaker 4: We happen to be talking about athletics. But you write
24:04
Speaker 4: a big check, you're gonna get access. Period. Here's the
24:08
Speaker 4: dealist where I'm sending in. Maybe my eyes are a
24:12
Speaker 4: little bit clouded, but when I see how far TCU
24:15
Speaker 4: has fallen in football, and say what, we're in the
24:18
Speaker 4: championship game, When I see how Baylor just can't compete anymore,
24:23
Speaker 4: and then when I look at us, you was there
24:25
Speaker 4: for once. Getting back to RUSSI sid I don't know
24:28
Speaker 4: a year after year if you can keep up with
24:30
Speaker 4: the Texas and the A and ms and L I
24:32
Speaker 4: don't think you can in the Oklahoma's which is in
24:34
Speaker 4: your area. I don't think you can. No, I don't
24:36
Speaker 4: think you can either.
24:37
Speaker 2: But again, I'll go back to the fact that as
24:40
Speaker 2: an A and M person, you got to feel pretty
24:43
Speaker 2: good about the fact that you are in, that you're in,
24:47
Speaker 2: and you are producing all these graduates every year, so
24:52
Speaker 2: those graduates have a better chance of becoming the multimillionaires
24:56
Speaker 2: in the future, so you can replace those donors that
24:59
Speaker 2: pass firs passed on.
25:02
Speaker 6: But Rusty gotta win, Yes, you do, absolutely not not
25:08
Speaker 6: just win, you had to win really big.
25:12
Speaker 4: Well, am I wrong about that? I don't argue. I
25:15
Speaker 4: mean a lot of people are happy that the an
25:17
Speaker 4: M made the College FOOTBA playoff last year, and they
25:18
Speaker 4: should be. It should be. And you know, if you
25:22
Speaker 4: guess what CEA, yeah better damn well do it again
25:25
Speaker 4: this year and the year after and the year after.
25:27
Speaker 4: You don't. Then, like he said, some donors may sorrow,
25:31
Speaker 4: but if you go back in four years, you're gonna well.
25:33
Speaker 2: But I mean, you remember when A and M came
25:35
Speaker 2: out with it. They had more fortune five hundred CEOs
25:39
Speaker 2: than any Yeah, yeah, that's very important. Now it's important
25:43
Speaker 2: for athletics, agree, because those guys are making a lot
25:47
Speaker 2: of money, right yeah, and you know so it.
25:51
Speaker 4: But they want their buddies worth do they want those.
25:54
Speaker 2: Hands in hands? So you really need to pay attention
25:56
Speaker 2: more than ever to those successful entrepreneurs that are coming
25:59
Speaker 2: out of.
25:59
Speaker 6: Your schoo Yeah yeah, but but they didn't get to
26:02
Speaker 6: be successful about being stupid.
26:04
Speaker 4: You might need to get you.
26:06
Speaker 2: You're right, they didn't.
26:07
Speaker 6: Now I realize there's emotions involved with athletics, right, There
26:12
Speaker 6: a lot of emotions involved, right, so they may continue
26:17
Speaker 6: to write checks for a while because of those emotions
26:22
Speaker 6: and the fact that hey, maybe I didn't write a
26:25
Speaker 6: big enough check this time because we didn't win that game.
26:30
Speaker 2: But but the Aggies, I've been saying this for a
26:33
Speaker 2: long time, same same thing with the Cowboys. Right, It's like,
26:35
Speaker 2: if you keep on going back and filling up that
26:38
Speaker 2: stadium over and over again and you want different results,
26:41
Speaker 2: well you're you're kind of you know, you're speaking with
26:45
Speaker 2: you wallet. And if you keep on coming back, which
26:48
Speaker 2: Aggies are the best at coming back, and you know,
26:51
Speaker 2: making it a game day, weekend and all those things
26:54
Speaker 2: like you know you want a Frank gone. The best
26:56
Speaker 2: way to letting go is stop coming. If you want
27:00
Speaker 2: you if.
27:00
Speaker 6: You want to vote, you vote, you vote with your money.
27:05
Speaker 4: Hey, this just in Trey.
27:07
Speaker 2: This just.
27:12
Speaker 4: The athletics reporting.
27:14
Speaker 6: The SEC will use the experimental A B S system
27:18
Speaker 6: with the tournament coming up.
27:20
Speaker 4: It's good. What do you think about that? I like it.
27:23
Speaker 4: I like it the A B system to move forward.
27:25
Speaker 6: Yeah, well they lost their coach for a couple of
27:28
Speaker 6: innutes because they didn't have.
27:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, and when it come out to argue, right.
27:33
Speaker 2: You can't argue that I like the A B S
27:36
Speaker 2: system a lot.
27:37
Speaker 4: I do too, but I do too, and it hasn't.
27:43
Speaker 2: What I've learned is the catchers no best.
27:45
Speaker 6: The catchers know best, they do, and it hasn't extended
27:52
Speaker 6: the game nearly what I thought it was because it's
27:55
Speaker 6: not used very often.
27:56
Speaker 4: It is very quick, very quick. Uh, A lot of players.
27:59
Speaker 2: Don't I don't want to do that because they don''t
28:02
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28:04
Speaker 6: The player that the hitters are complaining because they say
28:07
Speaker 6: the strike zone is narrower than it was without ABS,
28:11
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Speaker 6: Natas took over this community for a few days and
31:57
Speaker 6: I saw this article that they don't have to release
32:00
Speaker 6: they're finances because they're privately owned.
32:02
Speaker 4: But they did.
32:04
Speaker 6: Okay, they sold two point two million tickets, and this
32:10
Speaker 6: is in twenty twenty five.
32:12
Speaker 4: I would argue it'll be more this year, but.
32:14
Speaker 6: In twenty twenty five they sold two point two million tickets.
32:20
Speaker 6: Fifty million in merchandise, twelve point seven million social new
32:25
Speaker 6: social media followers. Okay, they played one hundred and thirteen
32:30
Speaker 6: games last year in college, minor league MLB, and stadiums. Okay,
32:35
Speaker 6: The two point two million would rank them twentieth in
32:39
Speaker 6: Major League Baseball ticket sales, ahead of the Reds, Indians, Nationals,
32:44
Speaker 6: Orioles Twins, twice as many as the Miami Marlins thirty
32:50
Speaker 6: five dollars for minor league stadium ticket prices, forty dollars
32:54
Speaker 6: for major league stadium. We know the high was sixty here,
32:58
Speaker 6: and then they have one hundred dollars plus for VIP packages. Okay,
33:04
Speaker 6: So seventy seven million dollars in ticket sales in twenty
33:08
Speaker 6: twenty five. Okay, merchandise, as I mentioned, seven hundred and
33:14
Speaker 6: eighty seven thousand fans in twenty twenty five purchased almost
33:19
Speaker 6: two million items. Okay, now, and talking to people that
33:24
Speaker 6: were at the game Saturday, they sold probably two million
33:29
Speaker 6: items at Kyle Field on Saturday. The merch ticket lines
33:33
Speaker 6: were the longest ticket lines, going fifty eight point eight million.
33:41
Speaker 6: In that The bottom line is, if they were to
33:44
Speaker 6: be valued like a professional team, the estimate is They're
33:50
Speaker 6: close to a billion dollars in value right now. If
33:54
Speaker 6: Jesse Cole wanted to sell the Savannah bananas.
33:57
Speaker 2: It's a great success story.
33:58
Speaker 4: It is an unbelieve evable success story.
34:01
Speaker 6: I started this show by talking about the idiots on
34:04
Speaker 6: social media who are who are criticizing everything, who criticize everything.
34:10
Speaker 4: They're just miserable people. I don't know how you can
34:13
Speaker 4: criticize what this guy has doing.
34:15
Speaker 2: This is a great entrepreneurial story.
34:17
Speaker 6: It is a great entrepreneurial It is America, and the
34:22
Speaker 6: kids freaking love it.
34:25
Speaker 4: Okay, you don't have to like it. You don't have
34:27
Speaker 4: to go. It is America. It's free.
34:29
Speaker 6: You don't have to buy a merch you don't have
34:31
Speaker 6: to buy a tea shirt. You don't have to go.
34:33
Speaker 6: But I'm telling you my greg kids went. They loved it,
34:37
Speaker 6: and absolutely.
34:39
Speaker 2: As someone who had zero interest in bananas, I wouldn't go.
34:44
Speaker 2: I wouldn't fight the traffic, I wouldn't buy there's no
34:46
Speaker 2: way by the merchi.
34:48
Speaker 4: How does that all that?
34:50
Speaker 2: I have an amazing admiration for those those that that couple, yeah,
34:56
Speaker 2: Jesse Cole, their.
34:57
Speaker 4: Story of they could two ticket, two tickets.
35:01
Speaker 2: And they were sleeping on their floor, the matches on
35:03
Speaker 2: their floor, and they were in credit card deck because
35:06
Speaker 2: they had used everything that had to buy the team
35:10
Speaker 2: to go from that.
35:11
Speaker 4: It's a terrific story. It's an American movie. It is
35:15
Speaker 4: should be a movie.
35:16
Speaker 6: And by the way, I will say again, this is
35:19
Speaker 6: twenty twenty five figures. I think that's before the ESPN contract.
35:24
Speaker 6: I could be wrong about that. It is doubled from
35:30
Speaker 6: this stuff right now. I did talk to people who
35:33
Speaker 6: were in the second last row of the upper deck
35:37
Speaker 6: and said, you know, you can't hear anything with the
35:40
Speaker 6: PA system.
35:41
Speaker 4: You don't even know they're playing baseball because they.
35:43
Speaker 6: Were, you know, as far away as you could get
35:46
Speaker 6: from the baseball field.
35:49
Speaker 4: Yes, terrific, but it's an experience.
35:51
Speaker 6: And I also said, whoever came up with this idea, boy,
35:56
Speaker 6: it's all about timing.
35:57
Speaker 4: Life is all about timing.
35:59
Speaker 6: They had a run those whatever staff person at the city,
36:04
Speaker 6: at the university, whatever, whoseever idea was, needs a bonus
36:07
Speaker 6: and I will fight on their behalf to get that
36:10
Speaker 6: bonus because they brought eighteen million dollars into our economy
36:14
Speaker 6: this weekend.
36:15
Speaker 4: That's a minimum, you know.
36:16
Speaker 2: And then they went over the top. They brought due
36:18
Speaker 2: perfect in. Hey, come on, man, what's what is better
36:22
Speaker 2: than that they did?
36:23
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean more power to them and and friends.
36:28
Speaker 6: You know, well we talked about we talked about, you know,
36:32
Speaker 6: who can fill this up? What can they do in
36:35
Speaker 6: future summers? Because the soccer is coming soon?
36:38
Speaker 4: Right next weekend? I don't know, it's soon, that's coming.
36:42
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, George h They've they've done a nice
36:46
Speaker 6: job trying to get some revenue and get Jimbo paid
36:50
Speaker 6: off and do some things that they have to do.
36:53
Speaker 4: Uh and we we uh and again I.
36:55
Speaker 6: Promise this is this is the last money talk because
36:58
Speaker 6: I started this going quat. I hate doing this because
37:01
Speaker 6: that's not I got in the business for games. But
37:04
Speaker 6: I wanted to bring the bananas up because they're just
37:06
Speaker 6: so entertaining, so entertaining.
37:09
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people who have tickets to
37:12
Speaker 2: A and M Baseball who chose instead of going to
37:14
Speaker 2: the second game on Saturday, chose bananas.
37:17
Speaker 6: Yes, that's that's the prerogative, right, Yes, not something I
37:21
Speaker 6: would ever do.
37:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah no, but it's it's.
37:24
Speaker 4: But as we told you, you don't have grandkids yet.
37:27
Speaker 4: Broadway show. You know what that's a fair kids are grown.
37:30
Speaker 2: That's a fair point. Yes, because I took my kids
37:33
Speaker 2: to circus when the circus came.
37:35
Speaker 4: Absolutely, but I would not go back.
37:37
Speaker 2: To the circus without them.
37:39
Speaker 4: Yeah I get that, but yeah, I would spend.
37:41
Speaker 2: The money with my grandkids. There was somebody else on
37:42
Speaker 2: my I posted about that on Facebook is like, hey,
37:45
Speaker 2: I salute these people. It's not for me. Yeah, yeah,
37:48
Speaker 2: it's not. I don't understand the fascination, but so more
37:52
Speaker 2: power to you if you like it.
37:53
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
37:53
Speaker 2: And somebody said, wait till you have grandkids. I was like, well,
37:56
Speaker 2: that's a fair point.
37:57
Speaker 4: I remember a time when a purple dinosaur or everybody
38:00
Speaker 4: went to see.
38:01
Speaker 2: You're right, see you know why because my kid liked
38:04
Speaker 2: the purple.
38:04
Speaker 6: Doves, you know, And I'm not I don't know if
38:07
Speaker 6: this is sustainable.
38:09
Speaker 4: I mean it looks like it is.
38:10
Speaker 6: The Harlem Globetrotters are still going on after seventy five years.
38:15
Speaker 2: As popular as they used to be. You're right, yeah,
38:18
Speaker 2: uh meadowlark lemon anymore?
38:20
Speaker 4: You know, there's not.
38:21
Speaker 6: And I would also argue, uh, you know, the family
38:26
Speaker 6: unit is not like it used to be either, right,
38:29
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just not.
38:31
Speaker 4: I'll argue it seventy five years from now, the Savannah
38:34
Speaker 4: Banas will have tapered off a little bit. Well yeah,
38:37
Speaker 4: but it's going to taper off. It's just the way
38:39
Speaker 4: everything has.
38:40
Speaker 6: Sure, But right down they're hot and again for a while,
38:43
Speaker 6: and it'll be a while because they're on TV, the kids,
38:46
Speaker 6: because they're they've got that generation now, right Oh yeah,
38:49
Speaker 6: social media. I mean, I mean and that they're they're
38:52
Speaker 6: on their phones all day, they're looking at stuff like that,
38:54
Speaker 6: and and all of them, you know, wanted to be there, right,
38:57
Speaker 6: Not all of them could, but all of them wanted
38:59
Speaker 6: to be there.
38:59
Speaker 4: I want to.
39:00
Speaker 2: Social Media is change the world for.
39:02
Speaker 4: Good and for bad. Oh I mean, I'm not probably
39:05
Speaker 4: more bad than good. Honestly.
39:07
Speaker 2: It's the whole we had this discussion. I mean, because
39:10
Speaker 2: my kids are in the marrying stages right now. It's
39:12
Speaker 2: like so much of what everybody does now is all
39:15
Speaker 2: about social media. It's not it's like asking people. You
39:19
Speaker 2: don't call anybody up and ask them to go to
39:21
Speaker 2: homecoming with you.
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Speaker 4: It has to be.
39:23
Speaker 2: A grand display so you can share that on social.
39:25
Speaker 4: Media, no doubt. You have to do all these things.
39:28
Speaker 4: The reveal I used to. I called my.
39:31
Speaker 2: Parents and say, hey, listen, we're having a boy.
39:33
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, oh absolutely, And so that was the reveal,
39:37
Speaker 6: Yes exactly.
39:38
Speaker 2: We didn't know it. We didn't gather with like eighty
39:41
Speaker 2: people to blow up in a blue gun or a gun.
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Speaker 4: Hey, welcome back. It's uh the Writers Round.
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Speaker 6: to Maggie. Baseball guys. There you go, let's talking about baseball.
43:25
Speaker 6: That's another one of Rusties teams.
43:28
Speaker 2: It is. I tell you what to get one game
43:31
Speaker 2: after giving up twenty three runs in the seven innings
43:36
Speaker 2: of the first game, and then early they gave up
43:38
Speaker 2: five runs in the second game. So if you think
43:41
Speaker 2: about the pitching after that and what they and them do,
43:45
Speaker 2: and then we give up three runs yesterday and none
43:48
Speaker 2: of the rest of the game after we got behind
43:50
Speaker 2: five tons.
43:50
Speaker 4: To them by a guy who hadn't been giving up any.
43:53
Speaker 2: Right, And so you know what, it's it's never good
43:57
Speaker 2: to lose the series, and certainly not get good to
44:00
Speaker 2: run rule. But man, Auburn's really good and they're playing well,
44:04
Speaker 2: and I just love the fact that A and M
44:06
Speaker 2: got one yesterday.
44:08
Speaker 4: You're gonna lose. You're gonna lose games and series. And
44:11
Speaker 4: I said, I've said.
44:12
Speaker 2: The biggest winner this year so far was the Georgia
44:15
Speaker 2: win on Sunday. This has when right ranks right up there.
44:18
Speaker 4: That does.
44:20
Speaker 2: This gives you you're you're sure of a winning record.
44:23
Speaker 2: Even even if you lose every single remaining SEC game.
44:27
Speaker 2: You got a winning record, right exactly, which means and
44:30
Speaker 2: they're not gonna lose every I mean, I would be shocked.
44:34
Speaker 2: But they're in a great position right now. You know too.
44:39
Speaker 2: If you win three and three and three, if you
44:41
Speaker 2: go three and three in the next six, now you've
44:44
Speaker 2: got eighteen conference wins. And yeah, you're feeling really good
44:47
Speaker 2: about yourself.
44:49
Speaker 4: It's it's just like, I don't say they're playing in
44:51
Speaker 4: house money, but you've built your resume where you can
44:54
Speaker 4: plan ahead.
44:55
Speaker 2: For the other things. Boy, you just can't trust today.
44:57
Speaker 2: I mean, I just you know, true.
45:00
Speaker 4: And that is the question going into the because you know,
45:03
Speaker 4: baseball gets down to the regionals, uh, super Regionals and
45:07
Speaker 4: College World Series. What do you do? How do you
45:09
Speaker 4: use your pitching stuff?
45:10
Speaker 2: I'm I'm just convinced at this point that he's the
45:14
Speaker 2: he's the number four starter, and I'm in the tournament. Well, yeah,
45:20
Speaker 2: in any situation, I would not want him as is
45:23
Speaker 2: if you're looking at a three game series now moving
45:25
Speaker 2: forward into let's go super regional. Okay, yeah, he's not
45:29
Speaker 2: my starter. If I'm Mike Early, I'm not starting him.
45:33
Speaker 2: I'm starting Aidan Simms, I'm starting Lions, I'm starting Moss
45:39
Speaker 2: and Sodeo. Is gonna guy that I'm gonna bring in.
45:42
Speaker 2: But he's not gonna be my starter. I mean it's
45:46
Speaker 2: I know it's extreme.
45:48
Speaker 4: Well it's no, no, it's it's.
45:50
Speaker 6: We've got a We've got a pretty long history by now.
45:53
Speaker 2: He didn't getting out in second any.
45:55
Speaker 4: It's a beauty of on Saturday baseball. Because you talk strategy,
45:58
Speaker 4: and I'm with you one hundred per said, is something's
46:00
Speaker 4: going to be done because you want to go to
46:02
Speaker 4: your best chance of winning a regional or a super regional.
46:04
Speaker 2: Well, especially in the super regional.
46:06
Speaker 4: If you look at what he's done, I don't think
46:08
Speaker 4: he would be the start.
46:10
Speaker 2: It's so much more important to win that first game
46:12
Speaker 2: and then it was a super regional to the regional.
46:14
Speaker 4: You don't care if your home run row you look.
46:16
Speaker 2: So in the playoffs. Now, I'm not saying that Early
46:20
Speaker 2: is going to do anything because this is the way
46:21
Speaker 2: he set it up, and they got two more series.
46:23
Speaker 2: But once they get in the postseason, you need to
46:27
Speaker 2: win that first game, whether it's be it the regional
46:31
Speaker 2: or the Super absolutely right now, and that changes everything.
46:34
Speaker 6: Especially and this day and age. I don't care what
46:37
Speaker 6: directional school comes in here.
46:40
Speaker 4: They have a picture. They got a chance.
46:42
Speaker 6: Texas State, they wouldn't they wouldn't be coming in here
46:44
Speaker 6: without a picture.
46:47
Speaker 4: Alex and I was talking about this today. I said,
46:49
Speaker 4: I can remember A and M was one of those
46:51
Speaker 4: top seasons. Somebody came in here and they had a
46:54
Speaker 4: picture that was going to get drafted, and sure enough
46:56
Speaker 4: they beat A and M. You can't when you go
46:59
Speaker 4: into hey, listen, somebody shows up, anybody can beat you.
47:02
Speaker 2: Jacob Grom went to Stetson. I'm just yeah, yeah, yeah,
47:06
Speaker 2: No Stetson comes in here with Jacob de Yeah.
47:09
Speaker 4: Yeahs started an air force, right exactly, Yeah, Oh, just
47:14
Speaker 4: a little air force coming in here's no.
47:16
Speaker 2: Problem, yeah exactly right.
47:18
Speaker 4: Did he pitch against Texas in the regional or was
47:21
Speaker 4: that several years ago?
47:22
Speaker 2: There?
47:22
Speaker 4: Probably as before Paul Skins, I guess I don't know.
47:25
Speaker 4: For a time, Yeah, but I remember when Stob is
47:28
Speaker 4: getting surgery. Do you see that. Yeah, it is a huge,
47:31
Speaker 4: huge ball for the Tigers. But getting back to the
47:34
Speaker 4: SEC baseball, well, what what a deal? When you turn
47:37
Speaker 4: on there's so many games on TV and they've got
47:41
Speaker 4: there's ten teams that we've seen it before. Not only
47:44
Speaker 4: can win you look at who's won the national championship
47:46
Speaker 4: with the SEC in the last seven eight years. They
47:49
Speaker 4: got about eight teams this year could win.
47:51
Speaker 6: It, no doubt. You just got to get you're getting.
47:54
Speaker 6: You're getting the tournament from this.
47:56
Speaker 4: League's got a lot of coffeey not a lot of compies.
47:59
Speaker 2: If you guys have it. There's anybody out there who
48:02
Speaker 2: hasn't watched Jorian Wilson, Oh my gosh. That guy is
48:07
Speaker 2: an athlete and he is a freshman and he is
48:12
Speaker 2: just getting started.
48:14
Speaker 4: And you give him as many bat or Sorell has
48:18
Speaker 4: and he's got more home.
48:19
Speaker 2: He's mean, he is a force. And you know, at
48:24
Speaker 2: first I was like, well, I don't know if he
48:26
Speaker 2: should be replacing Keel, But now I'm like, oh my gosh,
48:29
Speaker 2: I look for so long, I like forward to every
48:31
Speaker 2: at bat he has.
48:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't want to be getting up.
48:37
Speaker 6: He's like, you don't want to.
48:41
Speaker 2: Say this, but he's almost like Tani or Judge, Judge,
48:45
Speaker 2: I was gone, you know what I missing there at
48:47
Speaker 2: that you don't because there's a chance he may do something.
48:51
Speaker 2: Really when he connects, it's gonna go a long way.
48:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was such a great high school athlete, and uh,
48:57
Speaker 4: he hasn't played that many years of baseball. Mike Forman
49:01
Speaker 4: is a veteran guy now Victorian. And I remember saying like, hey,
49:04
Speaker 4: he's covered. You think about he's covered Ruben Owens, he's covered,
49:07
Speaker 4: Toya Jones, He's in our age. And he said, he said,
49:10
Speaker 4: this might be the best athlete I think he said
49:13
Speaker 4: he might have ever seen. And you go like, and
49:15
Speaker 4: I saw him in the bombers. Unfortunately it wouldn't bat
49:17
Speaker 4: was not a fair. He's a high school he's seventeen,
49:19
Speaker 4: eighteen years old, right, but what an athlete. Now you
49:22
Speaker 4: see that he's got like eighty ninety at bats only.
49:25
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, well you with you throw in Grahovic,
49:28
Speaker 2: Sorell and Jakope and this team offensively or well man,
49:35
Speaker 2: but I mean, I.
49:35
Speaker 4: Hope Partito is okay. You had to come out.
49:37
Speaker 6: He's got to pull and and uh, if you listen
49:40
Speaker 6: to early post you know, post game, it's like, well
49:43
Speaker 6: he was getting checked today.
49:44
Speaker 4: We haven't heard anything, but gotta worry about pull muscles, Yes,
49:47
Speaker 4: anything pulled.
49:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bear Harrison's almost up to three hundred.
49:51
Speaker 4: Now look at his own base always, I mean phenomenal.
49:55
Speaker 2: Well it's his own base is actually under five hundred
49:58
Speaker 2: for the first time all years. It's like four nine seven. Yeah,
50:03
Speaker 2: but I mean it's a fun offensive team. You just
50:06
Speaker 2: hope that the uncertainties with the pitching doesn't cost him
50:09
Speaker 2: in the.
50:09
Speaker 6: Okay, So so I was just going to bring that up.
50:13
Speaker 6: I always like to play Devil's advocate with this stuff.
50:18
Speaker 6: I am a grumpy old man.
50:19
Speaker 2: We already know baseball.
50:22
Speaker 6: It's about pitching always, right, Yes, but it's always about pitching.
50:28
Speaker 6: And you might be able to out hit an opponent
50:32
Speaker 6: for a weekend, you might Yeah, you're right, but but
50:35
Speaker 6: but you're you're you're looking even here.
50:38
Speaker 4: You know, this Auburn team's pretty good.
50:40
Speaker 6: They're they're I mean, they're they're pretty good, like like
50:43
Speaker 6: all the top.
50:44
Speaker 4: Teams in the SEC.
50:45
Speaker 2: They pitched really well.
50:47
Speaker 6: Well yeah, I mean they they really held A and
50:51
Speaker 6: M down this weekend.
50:52
Speaker 4: When you look at it, right, Yes they did.
50:55
Speaker 6: I mean they held them down. Uh, and they won
50:58
Speaker 6: two of the games.
51:00
Speaker 2: They're a copying three run homer from Seeking the Series. Yeah,
51:05
Speaker 2: and now that said Coopin almost tied.
51:07
Speaker 4: The game in the second.
51:08
Speaker 6: You're right.
51:09
Speaker 4: You can always say you know because it's that close.
51:12
Speaker 4: But my point is it's that close, and it's like
51:15
Speaker 4: you have to have pitching.
51:17
Speaker 6: I mean, when you start getting into and you and
51:20
Speaker 6: you face a Jacob de Gram from Gumby State that
51:24
Speaker 6: comes in here on a Friday evening with a packed
51:26
Speaker 6: holes and field, they could quiet that crowd, right, and
51:31
Speaker 6: you better have somebody that can throw up zeros right
51:35
Speaker 6: along with them in a two to one Friday game
51:39
Speaker 6: in the turn.
51:39
Speaker 2: That's what you know. Of course we talked about today.
51:42
Speaker 2: Oh but Western Moss was so good.
51:44
Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, I mean you have to have Yeah, you
51:47
Speaker 6: need that.
51:48
Speaker 4: Western Moss in three weeks, right, you do?
51:51
Speaker 2: And yeah, you touched on it because I mean he
51:53
Speaker 2: pitched against a really good team. Yeah, no, run almost
51:57
Speaker 2: got through seven.
51:58
Speaker 4: And you touched on it because I told I need
52:00
Speaker 4: to stay healthy the rest of week because you're gonna
52:01
Speaker 4: go playing a stupid SEC tournament. You don't want get
52:03
Speaker 4: anybody hate that. I hate that.
52:08
Speaker 6: I'll take this time again and I've still got three
52:11
Speaker 6: weeks to rail on. These postseason tournaments in every sport suck,
52:17
Speaker 6: but especially in baseball when you're talking about pitching.
52:22
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, Louke Billings has a forty point
52:25
Speaker 2: fifty e R if the egg is right now. He
52:27
Speaker 2: started game one for me in in Alabama. I mean,
52:31
Speaker 2: I don't too. Yeah, I don't care, but I do
52:34
Speaker 2: not care about that. Get down.
52:37
Speaker 4: Yeah you can't.
52:38
Speaker 6: You know, we we said the same thing, guys when
52:41
Speaker 6: the basketball tournament came around, right, it's.
52:44
Speaker 4: Like, hey, they're already in. You don't get that luxury
52:46
Speaker 4: very often around here.
52:47
Speaker 6: But we knew they were in, and it's like, man,
52:51
Speaker 6: don't waste your team.
52:52
Speaker 4: And they, you know what, they didn't. And then they
52:55
Speaker 4: went out and won the first game.
52:56
Speaker 6: But right, they had to travel across the country, but
52:59
Speaker 6: they went and won the first game.
53:03
Speaker 2: And then, you know, one one team almost won that thing.
53:05
Speaker 2: I can't remember who almost won. The team that finished
53:09
Speaker 2: at the bottom in the SEC and almost basketball. Yeah,
53:12
Speaker 2: who was that?
53:13
Speaker 4: Uh, well, forget Vanderbilt played Georgia.
53:19
Speaker 2: I can't remember one.
53:22
Speaker 4: See that's how important it is. It doesn't matter somebody
53:25
Speaker 4: who did you get hot? No Texas, Texas, I mean
53:29
Speaker 4: they went a long ways.
53:31
Speaker 2: I don't know.
53:32
Speaker 14: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because all we know
53:38
Speaker 14: is that the less you need to win the tournament.
53:42
Speaker 14: There's no point in going into what.
53:44
Speaker 4: My thing is.
53:46
Speaker 6: We have played all season long, and we have the
53:50
Speaker 6: best baseball conference and the best conference in the in
53:53
Speaker 6: the college conference in the world.
53:56
Speaker 4: We've got it. We've got a standings.
53:58
Speaker 6: We know where everybody fits in this league because they've
54:01
Speaker 6: all played all year long. We don't need a tournament
54:06
Speaker 6: a tournament to get a team in that's won four
54:09
Speaker 6: conference games and knock out a team that's fifty percent
54:13
Speaker 6: in the conference.
54:14
Speaker 2: It's not going to get hot in Alabama and win.
54:17
Speaker 4: Probably not, probably not, but but they could. I mean,
54:21
Speaker 4: you know it's not going to happen. But I'm just
54:25
Speaker 4: saying it doesn't make any sense to me, no sense
54:28
Speaker 4: at all.
54:28
Speaker 2: But now we know who the powers are.
54:31
Speaker 4: Well, it's that that's TV.
54:34
Speaker 6: You know, they they need the inventory.
54:36
Speaker 2: And maybe LSU really needs to do really really well
54:39
Speaker 2: in Alabama.
54:40
Speaker 4: Ls you may have to win the whole thing. Right now,
54:42
Speaker 4: you're right, they may have to win the whole thing.
54:44
Speaker 4: I think LSU is trying to pay for football players
54:47
Speaker 4: right now. Well I would.
54:52
Speaker 6: It's like here, it's it's only a minor sport if
54:55
Speaker 6: you lose, right, it's a or sport.
55:00
Speaker 4: Do you lose.
55:01
Speaker 2: Well, it's like you know, volleyball is a major sport
55:03
Speaker 2: around here now, I mean, yes, yes.
55:06
Speaker 4: They got link here for they don't need a baseball
55:08
Speaker 4: program anymore.
55:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, they still care about baseball, I promise you.
55:13
Speaker 4: That's why. That's why they're not showing up in their sky. Yeah.
55:18
Speaker 2: I've been there for baseball. They care.
55:21
Speaker 4: Gentlemen, I've been to overhaul.
55:22
Speaker 2: They still care.
55:23
Speaker 4: It's a quick hour man. Yeah, it's like just yesterday. Well,
55:27
Speaker 4: save your good stuff for next week.
55:29
Speaker 2: You got me on the rant about social media. That's
55:33
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