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Stranded & Jobless In The UK - The £10,000 Care Work Visa Scam · DidiLawren

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  entertainment industry and youth in general.
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  Like decisions that youth are taking.
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  Let us look for how we can prevent certain things from
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  happening Now. As we all know, the UK opened
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  its borders to skilled workers, especially the care work visa
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  permit. A whole lot of people have been
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  using this thing. Now this is not just for
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  Nigerians, this is not just for Africans.
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  The UK openly borders to every country and everybody.
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  Now there's been issues going on because a lot of people will
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  just get licenced to bring skilled workers, collect as much
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  as £15,000, then some even £20,000 from people to bring
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  them in, promising them job opportunities.
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  Some of these people, they sell up everything that they have to
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  commute to work thinking OK they're going to be working
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  maybe 100 hours because this will promise them crazy things,
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  promise them they're going to be making crazy money and this will
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  sell up everything to come here and there's no job.
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  Basically this company is just the mushroom company that just
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  got the licence to bring them in and they vanish.
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  This has happened to a lot of people now.
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  I remember a friend of mine calling me, he came here to do
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  his masters degree and he did in cyber security, very lucrative
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  area at the moment. And he called me and said he
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  wanted to change to work visa like care work visa because it's
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  five years and if he switched to the two years work permit, it's
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  just two years. So he's looking into doing the
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  five years return. I'm like, why do you want to
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  restrict yourself to a Care Visa when you did a very good, you
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  know, course for your master's degree?
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  They are looking. A lot of companies are hiring
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  network security experts at the moment this we are making lots
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  of money. This is IT sector.
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  We did computer science together.
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  So I was like, why do you want to limit yourself?
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  Do you understand the implication of what you're
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  saying? Do you understand that?
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  OK, if you sign this Care Visa, you're going to be doing care
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  for the next five years. Yes, it's five years, but you
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  are restricted to care. You can't do your network
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  security. You cannot use your care work
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  permits and go and work in a company.
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  That is not going to happen. Why do you want to do this?
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  And he was like, ohh a friend told him, that friend told him
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  the conversation wasn't going anywhere.
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  And I said, listen, just go and mark today's dates in your
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  calendar and just markets. We are going to have this
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  conversation in the next 2-3 years and then you tell me the
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  outcome of it. It wasn't like I was trying to
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  rain on his parade or anything. I could see the dangers in
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  somebody who did masters degree in a very lucrative profession
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  now trying to switch to a care visa.
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  Not because they've not completed their course, not
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  because they cannot. Just because OK, visa is more or
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  five years and the work permit is 2 years root and this guy was
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  ready to pay about £10,000 to get this.
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  And I'm like why? Ladies and gentlemen, we had a
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  conversation recently. It's not even up to a year and
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  he's already regretting because the company is signed to.
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  They are not even trying to get him any job.
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  He's not doing anything. And he I I didn't even know what
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  to tell him. I didn't.
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  I I was just you know how you don't even I couldn't even say
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  anything because it was just like why so many people make
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  decisions based on what they have heard or what someone they
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  have told them. A lot of people coming in with
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  this Care Visa, they don't want to listen to any other thing
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  because these people, they've told them, oh this person did
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  this and did that. And at the end of the day the
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  person gets sorted. Of course they're going to sell
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  you that dream. Of course they're going to tell
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  you all these things that will make you bring out that money.
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  Of course they're going to tell you things that will make you
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  feel that is your best option before you do things.
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  Ask questions. Now you.
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  OK, they have. They've been trying to stop the
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  whole because there there was a documentary on Sky that
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  documented not just Nigerian immigrants complain about these
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  things, even the Indians, you know, the Asian people, because
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  these are the people that are kind of stuck in this whole
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  thing. Now watch this.
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  It's chaotic. Dishing out supplies in a
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  cramped and crowded food bank? No problem.
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  Organisers say they're overwhelmed because it's not
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  just locals who are struggling to survive.
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  Sit down. Here.
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  Some of these people have recently arrived from Nigeria
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  but got here to find the jobs they were sponsored for don't
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  exist. Sky News has already shown how
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  skilled worker visas are being abused and middle men are making
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  large sums of money exploiting this legal route to the UK.
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  Now we can reveal how people who thought they were coming here to
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  work are falling destitute. Most are reluctant to talk.
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  They feel despair at their predicament.
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  This woman who were calling blessing hasn't been given any
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  shifts by the company which sponsored her since she arrived
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  three months ago. I've always provided for myself.
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  I'm a very hard working, diligent person.
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  So for me to be here depending on people to eat, you know,
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  coming to the food bank to get food.
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  Isn't isn't quite OK with me and make me feel I'm less of a
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  person, a human I should be in the position of health in not
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  the receiving end because this is not who I was back in my
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  country. Blessing told us she paid an
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  agent in Nigeria £10,000 to arrange a full time job as a
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  carer on a skilled worker visa. She asked us not to reveal the
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  company which sponsored her, fearing repercussions, but we've
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  seen other documentation supporting her account of what's
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  happened. There is a big scam going on.
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  A lot of people have been scammed every day being deceived
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  that we have jobs. How many people do you know?
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  Who've come on skilled worker visas and got here and there's
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  no work. Ohh, I can't go.
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  It's. Yeah, I can't.
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  There are so many, so many. I met a lot here and so many are
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  still coming after I've come here.
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  Dozens. Hundreds.
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  Ohh, let me see dozens. Ohh does this, Yeah.
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  This woman also came from Nigeria and says she's had to
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  move N to live with her sister because there's no work for her.
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  They all say it's proving virtually impossible to find a
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  new company to sponsor them for a full time position and having
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  come as carers under the terms of their visas, they can't work
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  in any other job sector. We're calling this couple Joyce
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  and Alan. They say they also paid an agent
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  in Nigeria £10,000 to arrange employment for Joyce as a carer.
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  I've been tutored. Either has not been easy.
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  I have to sell my car, sell my property.
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  God alone took a lot of risk to his of the money.
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  How difficult is it to transfer to another company to get
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  sponsored by somebody else? Is very difficult because most
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  jobs you want to get the first of us tell you that actually
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  you've got this offer from somewhere else, so maybe you
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  should go back to that place to get your job.
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  That's what they always say. We are begging the government if
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  they can look into it. The founder of the food bank
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  says she's already under pressure, feeding local people
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  in a cost of living crisis. Nearly half the people you're
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  supporting are people who were given a visa to receive.
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  OK without walk. And then got here and there was
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  no job, yes. Yes.
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  He shocked by that. I am shocked because this has
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  never happened in the UK before. So we are so surprised to see
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  this happening for UK governments, you know, and a lot
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  of them sold their houses in Africa, sold their cars, sold
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  there are. Things that are gonna start.
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  And they charge they are starting a new life here.
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  Getting here. They got stopped.
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  It's so it's so. I'm sorry.
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  It's so depressing. That's the word.
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  Thank you. It is so.
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  I think the big issue. Is a very big issue.
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  It's people that are not British citizens, people who came to the
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  UK very. Nigerians, they're not British.
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  They have no other documents than the skilled visa that
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  brought them into this. Country to come, walk.
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  Thank you very very much. You are well that.
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  These people go out, yeah. As we finished filming by the
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  front door, two people scurry passed with the food they've
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  been given, disappearing into the rain in Rochdale in Greater
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  Manchester. It's only afterwards we're told
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  their story that they were too ashamed to speak to us.
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  One of the women has hit rock bottom and is sleeping on a bus.
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  Last week we gave our bread and tuna because that's what she can
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  eat easily without cooking or warming.
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  Now homeless, we're told the lady on the bus is yet another
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  person who paid an agent in Nigeria to arrange care work in
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  the UK and whose dreams of a new life are in tatters.
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  Do you know if she was offered a full time job certificate?
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  Yes, yes. But according to and what she
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  show us, yeah, they offer her full time job and she can't go
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  back home. She has nothing again at all.
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  She sells. She sells everything that she
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  has back home. She's in a bad way.
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  Bad, bad one, Yeah. The Lady on the Bus is one of a
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  huge number of people who've come to the UK from around the
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  world on skilled worker visas, more than 170,000 in the 12
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  months to March this year, including 40,000 as carers.
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  What we've found is just how widespread abuse of the skilled
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  worker visa system is in different communities and around
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  the country. Again and again, people telling
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  us the same story. Some are getting here and
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  finding there's no work. Others are using it as a route
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  to reach Britain. We've come to West Yorkshire,
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  where the lure of a better future has brought some people
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  on skilled worker visas from South Asia to join Bradford's
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  established Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities.
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  Speaking to local businesses in a supermarket where told it's
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  not just people who aren't getting the work they were
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  promised who are struggling. They tell us people are coming
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  into the store looking for jobs who also came on skilled worker
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  visas but have no intention of working as carers and are using
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  the system purely to reach Britain.
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  Of them were told before they arrived that you will have no
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  jobs, you're only arriving here and they do pay a lot of money
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  and. So it's a way to get to the UK.
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  Just to get to the UK. It does shock me and it is
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  frustrating. Who are you frustrated?
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  With we're not only frustrated with the people that are coming
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  in knowingly, we're also frustrated with the government
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  for creating this mess in the first place.
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  We're told people are coming in off the streets looking for jobs
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  so poverty stricken they're even offering to work for next to
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  nothing in exchange for something to eat.
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  They are very disruptive. Some people, they come begging.
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  Me brother give me some job because I don't have any food to
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  eat. And and you get this everyday.
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  Everyday. Every week.
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  Behind the scenes, the scale of the problem becomes clearer.
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  Well, today's been is already gone, so.
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  Rejected CVS end up in the bin, but they say nearly half are
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  from people on skilled worker visas not allowed to work in
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  their shop. Anhar explains what happened
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  with a recent applicant. We've done an employer checking
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  service check. And it's just come up with the
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  worker restrictions. So he is allowed to work in this
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  country, he is legally here. However, he's not allowed to
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  work in this particular business.
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  He's only here for skilled worker as a carer.
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  Has spoken to a number of people who travelled to the UK from
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  Pakistan on skilled worker visas that say they're too ashamed to
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  be filmed and are afraid of being sent back.
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  And the reason they don't want to come out, firstly,
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  embarrassment, but then secondly, on top of that they
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  just feel obviously they don't want to make themselves.
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  You know known. Labine runs a community cafe and
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  food bank and says people's expectation of how things will
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  be in the UK doesn't match the reality.
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  There is. I think a lot of people feel
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  that they're gonna come over here, they're gonna start a new
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  life. It's gonna be a a life where
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  they're gonna make lots of money, they're gonna be living
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  in lavish lifestyle. But it's nothing like it's just
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  a, you know, a false dream misconception for them.
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  And to be honest, in terms, I would put it as a scam.
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  How strong do you think the government cheques are at the
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  moment? The level of cheques are very
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  weak. I think this is massive to be
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  honest. The government says abuse of the
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  immigration system will not be tolerated.
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  In a statement, the Home Office said we have robust measures in
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  place to ensure compliance. We will always take decisive
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  action if employers break the rules, including by revoking
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  sponsor licences when necessary. But for those now unable to
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  support themselves after moving to Britain, serious questions
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  remain about the dream being sold to some people using the
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  skilled worker visa route to get here.
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  Lisa Holland, Sky News Now after watching this whole thing, you
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  could see the dangers of just making decisions with, you know,
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  little information that you have or information that somebody
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  that is trying to sell something to you is given to you.
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  Ask questions and even if somebody else is giving you a
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  contrary you know information, that is not suiting to what you
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  are needing at that point, make sure you ask for five people.
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  Always tell people that. Listen, if I want to do
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  something, I will tell about 15 people about that plan.
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  Now the whole 15 people cannot be wrong.
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  Yes, maybe you can get 3-4 different group of people to
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  talking about the same thing, but you know ultimately what you
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  want. At that point you have a more
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  robust information to make an informed decision.
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  But some people don't even want to look at these things.
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  If you tell somebody, listen, if you want to travel and you're
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  thinking about selling everything, why don't you just
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  sit down? Do like I don't.
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  It beats my imagination why You tell some people to do nothing
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  and they will refuse to do it because you know they don't want
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  to spend 4 years, but you're going to come and you're going
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  to. You're going to sell up
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  everything you have and even the job you're not going to get.
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  People are stranded, people are sleeping on the streets, people
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  are just, there are so, so many people suffering because they
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  they want a better life. And there's nothing wrong about
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  wanting a better, a better life for yourself.
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  The situation in diaspora has changed since the pandemic.
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  There's so much inflation, there's so much hardship going
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  on, and if you are coming in, you have to be able to put
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  yourself in a strategic position to be able to work now.
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  Do you nothing, Come here after one or two years.
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  Once you're settled, you cannot decide to go into other
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  professions that you really want to do, Use that as a stepping
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  stone. A lot of people are not working
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  with their first degree. They are not working with it.
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  They don't. They've done that as you use it
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  as a stepping stone and they get something else doing.
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  But when you tell people use this as a stepping stone for you
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  to get what you want, stoop to conquer.
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  They will tell you no, I cannot do it.
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  Now in this particular friend of mine he he he I don't even know
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  because this person spends over £15,000 to do a master's degree
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  and then they they have spent like over £10,000 to do the care
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  stuff and now you can't even get a job.
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  He is lucky he has a girlfriend who is accommodating him and
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  he's trying to get his life together, but that is not the
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  case for so many people. There are so many people
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  sleeping on the on buses, you know, depending on charities for
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  food. When you have paid 10, fifteen,
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  £20,000 to a care company, some of these, you know, care
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  companies, what they do, they just set this thing up.
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  Just about 15 people collect, We're talking about 15 people
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  talking about over £150,000 and they disappear.
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  Some of them take that money and fly to America, some of them
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  move out, go to Australia, Canada.
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  You will not see them again. The UK police, who are they
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  going to look for them? Because they are not.
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  They are no longer in the country and they are not even
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  willing to come back for any reason.
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  We have to be careful. We have to be careful before you
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  sign anything, before you make that agreement, before you
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  think, OK, I I want to go to the next step and I need certain
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  things to be in place. Make sure you ask questions.
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  Don't just do things because every other person is doing it.
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  Don't do things. People lie.
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  I always tell people these things and they think I'm just,
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  you know, raining on their parade.
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  People lie. People go through the worst
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  things and they will come out splash makeups on their face
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  where their clothes and then tell you they are living their
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  best life. But they're lying.
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  They're going through challenges that you don't know.
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  There are so many people on this care visas.
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  If they tell you what they are going through, you will not
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  believe it, but they will come out and tell you this is the
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  best decision, decision that they've had, that they are
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  working, they are doing this, they are doing that.
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  They don't tell you, they don't give you the details.
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  Now I tell people before you do anything, YouTube I know is not
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  a source of information, you know.
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  Then back then in school they will tell you.
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  Wikipedia should not be your reference point, but if you know
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  how to use Google and Wikipedia, you can get an understanding of
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  what you need to look for in in an academic sense.
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  Answer that question and then you now look for, see get
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  information from from, from YouTube.
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  Ask people who have been in that situation.
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  Yes, I see a lot of people glorifying all this.
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  How to get to Canada, how to get care visa to the UK, How to do
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  this and how to do that. I understand there are so many
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  of those videos now. I remember when there were so
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  many videos of people talking about their challenges in the
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  UK, it was kind of a joke. At that point people say all
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  these people that just got here, they will be doing videos how
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  life is in the UK, but that is the true sense of what they are
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  going through. Yes, we may not like it or
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  listen to people. Listen to people's challenges.
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  As a project manager, one thing they tell you is before you make
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  a decision, before you embark on a project, look at a successful
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  project and a failed project. Benchmark these two things.
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  You cannot go wrong when you see a successful project, you see
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  why that project is successful or was successful and you look
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  at a failed one. What they did wrong Once you get
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  these two things together and you put yourself in that middle,
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  yes, you're going to. You know your estimates are not
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  going to be perfect, but there are certain pitfalls that you're
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  going to avoid. Apply that in your daily life.
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  Make problem solving your number one priority.
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  If you before you travel, what is the problem you're trying to
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  solve? Are you trying to go to school?
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  If school is what you want, then get a student visa and travel.
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  Are you trying to do business? If business is what you want,
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  what are you doing with student visa?
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  If work is what you want, you want to work in the healthcare.
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  Why are you paying 1020 thousand to do a care work visa where you
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  can sit down, do nothing, get a job and get You can go to
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  Canada, you can go to US, you can go to Australia.
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  In must not be UK. Try to have that skill of
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  problem solving. Ask yourself what is the problem
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  you're trying. If you answer the question of
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  what problem am I trying to solve, you're going to avoid so
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  many problems. I know it is not easy,
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  especially when the jackpot thing come into somebody they
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  just want to leave. But take a step back, Ask
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  yourself, am I going to study? Is is he really school?
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  Is it work? Is it business?
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  Do I really want to relocate? Because these are questions that
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  you know. They just tell you ohh student
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  visa. Yes I want student visa.
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  When I get there I will sort it out.
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  You're paying £15,000 to come and go to school and then to
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  People need to wake cope. Stop wasting.
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  People are so free. People are going through a lot.
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  Even the UK citizens are protesting before you just wake
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  up and travel. Have a plan and make sure that
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  plan is not just limited to a geographic location.
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  Have a qualification that even if you're going to Canada you
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  can use it. If you're going to the US you
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  can use it. If you're going to the UK you
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  can use it if you're tired. I have a family friend who they
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  got to the UK and they were like this.
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  The wife is a nurse and she was the the the family were like you
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  know, UK's we are not happy with the UK.
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  She applied for jobs in the US and she got and they moved to
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  the US just like that within a year.
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  That is the power of having a qualification that can take you
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  anywhere as an IT person. You can sit down, get a
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  qualification, a job in the US. You can either go to the US or
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  you stay where you are and you're working.
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  Or you see we have moved beyond certain qualifications.
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  If you want to improve your life, there are certain things
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  you need to know. There are certain things you
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  need to do. Seek knowledge.
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  Seek information for you to put yourself in strategic positions
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  that will enable you fulfil whatever you want to fulfil.
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  Once you know the right question to ask yourself, ask yourself
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  that question and if you can answer truthfully.
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  There are so many problems that you avoid for yourself anyway.
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  I'm not saying people should not travel.
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  If you have 20,000 to pay for Care work visa, go and do it.
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  If you have £15,000 to pay for school fees when you know you
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  don't want to go to school, go and pay.
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  If you have a £20,000 to pay for school fees and then pay for
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  care visa when you just know you want to relocate, go and pee.
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  Everybody with his own. Anyway, thank you very much for
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  joining this episode. Please like, like, like and
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  share. Thank you very much.
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  Bye, bye.