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ARNULFO D AYALA & CORNEL J DRUMMER |FREE TEXAS CAMPAIGN_BEHIND THE WALLS OF TDCJ_SEASON 1 DA CREW PODCAST · DA CREW Podcast

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please share this in your circle of influence. I have missed y'all with me
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tonight and I want him to introduce itself for those that may not I know
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him if you listen to my morning show. He's been on one of my
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morning shows. But I want to give him an opportunity to introduce hisself to
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those that may not know him. So the Florent's yours, thank you for
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having me. Thank change and Conditions and the people have been incarcerated here.
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There was a time when the penitentiary was just that it was, it was
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the penitential, and it was all about survival. There's been a cultural shifts,
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personal development, replantation. And I'm not talking about so much what the
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what the system does for us, because you know, there's a fair balls
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what they provide. But they they provide us what they do, provide us
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with the opportunity to better ourselves. And there's there's been a movement here to
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take advantage of them. Again. We don't have to worry about surviving,
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we don't have to worry about twenty something analysts, and we can focus on
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understanding who we are as individuals, understanding what on purpose and nurturing and cultivation.
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It's a process, it's a it's a long term process. I've been
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I've been across here twenty five years, and ten of those years on was
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survival mode and there was a two thousand and eight one authorly converted to to
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the space Christians Faith Catholic and I started the journey of self improvement, self
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development, self discovery. And then across there's our Creaginal a lot of programs,
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the partnership of volunteers and the first one was was called journ but Captain
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Bascans. That was the first collaboration we had with a few volunteers and we
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still facilitated the curriculum but to this day and the results have been pretty as
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you do, and there's there's a proof that this set of program works as
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far as when when you're contrasting with others. They did a study and the
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study that we had the participants that we had a control group and the participants
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there was a you say, maybe the two that would have a display and
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say fifteen that actually had minor discipline versus that major just plain from the control
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groups around twenty five in the Monarchist was early forty in the forties. So
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there's there's a practical change and that right. So what we did is we
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created opportunities to develop law programs. So we developed the colleague, Utiful Community,
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and we created the inflated retreats with the dialogue. So the six major
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revisions of the unions, Catechristianity plus Christianity, Repuscles, the Americans, Eastern
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Religion, Music and Buddhists, and Sebreterianes. We worked together to transform the
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negative culture of this human and we utilize the tools of the retreat is a
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free day retreat and a weekly dialogue class and another class called Compassion Integrity Training.
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So we've also noticed a shift in behaviors with the God participating in that.
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So when here comes spar Education Safe brings per education program and I'm a
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peer educator and I'm able to WelCom tho units and facility programs in the living
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areas, in the school, in the school else pal classroom, and I've
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created a curate to call campus culture. And the idea for campus culture is
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to transformed the culture this unit into a learning culture, you know, looking
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at this unit in our in our stay here as an opportunity to treat this
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like a university or sunary or any type of self development. So some progressive
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said that anybody can think of it, but it's not the major culture that
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technobably counts with the prison environment. So we've been doing that for for the
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campus coast. We've been doing this probles a year and a half and at
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this moment we're in every customer level. So we have a whole section administrative
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segregation where these guys are housed twenty four hours a day in the single in
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the single men cell and these are mental health divergent program participants that they're working
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their way back into the general population. And we've been there for the last
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three weeks and they've already knowniced aplastic shape the behavior. There's six different sections
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each one of the houses fourteen and we're in one specific session and that specific
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session everything has gone down as far as disciplinary use of for us and major
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disruptions. So they've been tracking this for the last few weeks. Guess is
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that a nicer fagigation. Now we're also in close custody and these guys are
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in their cells, but they're fellies and they're there for in twenty four hours
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a day. As long as they're in that type of custody, and we've
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been there for a year and a half. That tells our first place where
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we launched the program. So and yeah, we also show that the disciplineary
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the use of force disruptions also brought there and that's why we've been this work.
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Received a provot to to start a soction and meeting custody and this is
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where they're they're in the cells with the SEMy but they have limited day room
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activity and recreation. Yeah mh. So we just started there and we're going
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to be able to take them into a so I performing eight man section.
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Thirty five actually signed up for the program and we're going to launch that in
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about two weeks after which is one room custody. When we have we've had
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their room classes to the whole for the minimum custody. E sas for details,
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and these are smaller groups, maybe four to six. And what we
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did is we select to certain people of these groups un once they graduated,
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and we requested that they would consider being mentors. And those who chose to
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be mentors, we now take them to the classroom study in the Education Department
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and we trained them on the curriculum. As president the curriculum, I'm working
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with small groups and as far as house presented out of these small group discussions,
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as I have classroom presentations. It's really like a book, a book
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camp for a mentor. And do you have programs that you have developed to
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try to help you all rehabilitate yourselves? Not. I created the campus culture
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about two years ago and it was implemented. I was I was after crazy.
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I was fortunate enough to be hired onto the education team and and because
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of the lock drown of Union, it was it was that film. It's
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really working and I'm not saying is that crazy m hm right now? Oh
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on on a weekly basis, on a weekly business and some are m hm
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and versell. So we we had different ways of presenting him facilitation. We
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had total deliverances where oh we take them to multi purpose room and we feel
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in the class from the study, or we can do it in the day
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room, the small group, maybe four the department, so we can both
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the curriculum into into you know, uh the environment. Right. I could
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just be one on one. I mean I could just say you're there with
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anybody who just have one on one association. And that's the opportunity that exists
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to location here ye as as today. So for a lot of guys,
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well they have you know espe'son when you can when you talk about mental health,
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that's seducation. Well, he's always the church, depending where there are,
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it's sometimes a kind of a class here and there. But for the
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consolers major let's see and we're able to uh Broadway and really work as far
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as we care to to get take greatly environment. It's more beneficial funder One
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of the things that too. If you start looking up and they're they're in
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a meeting custody international security person in the middle of nowhere. It doesn't get
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any social letter, doesn't get the lower than that. So I get to
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say that, right, and they're there. They're on ready for change,
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right, and we sall bes you know to surf. I first learnt sixty
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a week. These are the telock I don't come back to seven and it's
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it's constant. And these guys are young there, young man, you know,
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they don't they don't know they're not They don't really come up to it,
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and I don't really have a situation, right, but they want something
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better for themselves, right, and that they want a second chance. You
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got to understand a lot of these kids, a lot of these kids are
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getting locked up when they're fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and statistics have proven
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that these babies don't know what they're doing. You know, they they may
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be walking around doing grown up crime, but they they cannot conceptualize and truly
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understand and rationalize what they have done. And y'all providing these programs, you
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know, a lot of these kids fall into the environments that they fall into
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because they don't have an identity. They don't know who they are, and
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they're trying to find something to relate to, something to identify to, somebody
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that will accept them, somebody that would love them. So that's how a
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lot of them end up where they are. But when you don't have rehabilitation,
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because you were talking about the state of Texas that does not believe in
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rehabilitation, They don't believe that people can be rehabilitated, that you deserve a
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second chance, or that you should have a second chance. So for you
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guys doing this and creating this environment for yourselves, creating something that they will
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not create for you. Have y'all had any pushback from them or have they
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been very acceptive of this as far as the administration as you have at this
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time that they're very supportive what we're doing because they see that, they see
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the numbers. And that's one thing that I keep on strusting to the guys.
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You know, they're not doing this. They're not allowing us to do
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this because they'd like us. They're not allowing us to do this because they
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have they have Uh, we just have a good setting allowing us to do
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because the numbers show that it works. So we can show that if we
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do this in one section works disciplinary is down, you supposs down, major
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disruptions are down. Right, even two set of attempts are done. Those
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those are those adventur issues here. If we can show these works or they
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want more of it. Right. So we had talked to the Lord about
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two days ago about the medium custody offenders and part desires to start a section
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over there, and there was the cool world immediate guest, you can do
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it, and there was also more, well, maybe we could do something
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a section. There's six medium custody sections, so if we could do one
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section a day, right, one on Monday, one on Tuesday, except
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a Monday, so Saturday, and we can start you know that gradual in
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that culture one that put a color to went to one section and he was
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just asking if the guys would be interested in something like this, and again
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thirty five and forty eight signed up for it. So that's how holly these
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guys are. Okay, and the rest of the guys and the other sections
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are saying, hey, why can we have the program? Okay, so
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we have to to know. Hey, well, this is a pilot program
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and soon Gens give us a couple of months to the shore of the works
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and then we'll batch up to all these different sections. Also another word,
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which is in charge of the inventory segregation. He asked us. We have
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one session and the mental Health Diversion program out of the m HM and we
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work we're working with the University of Texas Medical Branch, the psychologe department,
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and and they want us, they want us to look at starting to add
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another section. So well, there's there's there's a there's this back. Okay,
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here's back. As far as disappoint that we need to get things time,
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there hasn't been anything really that they they've rejected. As far as when
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we need something resources, the majority of our little good anything from the state,
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you know, Tenison doesn't provide us with anything. We have a poorer
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volunteers that are out there in the world and help support us with folders and
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paper and pencils and and the workbooks. So when we need something, they
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tell them at us, you know, uh, give us suit there we
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be distributed as yeah. Uh. And that's that's a lot of differences.
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But I don't think of listener. There's there's a move throughout the whole system.
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They talked about life coaching and the old ministry, and we have just
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constly and good there constant uh being I mean different areas within the system.
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We have a lot of coaches, field ministers and peerage teachers here on district.
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Uh. And I want to speak from perit ediction s because we tend
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to do Yeah, we tend to do a lot as far as in the
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in the buildings, in the population. But there is there is a lot
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of support. Uh. We can what what's your administration? H. I
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don't think that makes me you see, here's the deal with that. There's
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a lot of pressure right now. But the system is still a lot of
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pressure and the majority of that pressure is coming from the shortest for staff shortness.
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They can't imagine. It's not that they don't they don't want to provide
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education here. They can't get the teachers for some reason. We're in the
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pull nowhere. Nobody wants to drive this way. So we haven't had an
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education for I think for over a year we have had no education once whatever,
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Uh, we google it's gonna be coming in to do a high school
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high school diploma. I think it's gonna start in January. So it's not
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that it's not that they won't do it. I can't have the money to
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do it. They still have the staff, right, the services, security,
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and this is a system line. So there's a lot of pressure to
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do something and a lot of times they depend on us to fill the gaps.
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So what we've done is we try to fill that gap as far as
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the education repmitation, especially for the guys who don't receive anything on the B
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side. So yeah, well we're trying to do right now, especially when
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you talk about the free texting campaign. What we're trying to do is changing
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the enronment that we can actually have boots on the grounds and support the efforts
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that you guys are taken outside. So if you have an organization focusing on
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all parties, the laws for the laws of parties, change laws for a
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second hluck, change laws for a good time part time, build a support
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for them. When the House Joint Resolution the fifty three regarding that attend your
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art wreath, so this is a court for time reduction, all these different
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efforts trying to help relieve the pleasure. Okay, what we're doing is we're
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doing our part right, We're doing our part and trying to develop the men
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that society demands us to be, one of the men that our family needs
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us to be right, so that we can go back down into the world
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and be successful. I said, I've said for many years that for many
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for more many years, vision was like a social cancer where you come in,
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you know how the people are creementally, you go on and you create
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you use about this new dolledge streets. Well, now we have the ability
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to think that right, being a social cancer to a cure. Right,
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Well, we can go out and teach these youngsters up there in the world.
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You know, how do you know we've we've been there, we've done
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that. Uh, let's show you something different, Okay, So because that's
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what that that's that's the movement that's happening right here. And we've had a
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class today and this is what I officially called the brocalhead class. These are
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guys that are just uh just knucklehead is just they like to fight, they
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like to you know, they're into a lot of different things. And uh,
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you know, and when I say I go to these sessions, they
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have a class and the pay rook. But there's other guys that are not
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part of them. I'm part of the class and you know I have I
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still have relationships with them. So I go and ask to me, would
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you like to be probs here? So you know, we convinced to gooking
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with a little for the last two months. And you know, those guys
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there had science forms. This is out here a better life to understand who
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really are as an individual, where they want to go in life and and
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what a way of getting from here. And it was very it was it
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was a very special day today because when when when I sat there and I
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said, look, you know what we could you know for such you know,
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we could go here and go through the information. So there's there's could
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be a time where a hard needs to speak, when we need to express
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how this information is being absorbed and expressed in our minds. So I said,
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I'm going to sit back and I'm just gonna ask you guys to share
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something that you feel less hopeful. And we lefted four hours four hours share
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everyone sort of you know, no matter if they you know, they don't
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they don't usually stand up and speak in front of people and be shared very
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meaningful, good college of desires and commitment to reach. And this is this
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is what I tell the guy. What you can desire good thing. No,
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you want, but until you have a commitment to living that out and
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accomplish it it, don't you just goes hunter, I must go a little
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guy, but I would. I desire big muscles, but until I commit
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to working out that's what happened. I can desire you all one, but
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I have to have to commit to the merchant. I have to commit to
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waking up if you have to commit to a proper guy, and I have
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to commit through all these different things to get these muscles. Well, the
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same thing is when you want, when you want to live in protective line,
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you want to succeed. You know, how do you succeed? Where
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is what is that that goal? Right? Wherever you need to do to
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get? And this these are things that these guys are just running. Okay,
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several of those guys have done twenty plus years. A handful of guys,
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I feel like five to six have lifestents. One guy has to strike
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my syns and he's hopeful as that means something, especially if I'm worrying come
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true. Where it comes from as far as his in background, as far
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as his affiliations. I mean a lot of those guys are affiliated, but
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they're learning who their identity is so that they can detatch away from those affiliations.
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Until we understand who very hard who what the identity is, they're going
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to allow somebody else to give them an identity. We will create the identity.
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What is going to be learns. So what we do is we help
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of understanding what your identity is discovery. I used the analogy of athletics.
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YEA, tell you very briefly. Uh, so say we help the monderstand
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the athentics, the desire athletics and uh there's something I say they want to
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to to look into. So that's the discovery part. And then we have
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to direct to football, baseball, basketball, soft because there's probably different propetics.
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So we haven't understand football when we have to explore the position to say
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football, so you want to get Then we have to understand the foundation ideas
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need to be successful, and then we have to be the company. So
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it's a process and uh, it's a good pross and he's gonna really really
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give me into it. Well, I want to apply to you guys for
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the work that you all are doing and in the turnaround the change that's I'm
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coming and I'm expecting to hear more about it. Keep me updated on the
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progress and definitely will bring you back on and allow you to continue to share
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the progress. Hopefully this will help t d c J to see that rehabilitation
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is possible and some of these congresspeople and these representatives and these people that have
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the power to change these laws can change some of these laws. I applaud
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them for what they are doing. That was one of the guys that's in
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Connelly in Texas. We're gonna have another young guy that's gonna call in.
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It's gonna share a little bit about history, y'all. I take these opportunities
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because these are some people that I'm working with and while I'm waiting for this
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next call to come in. If you're out there and you have words of
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inspiration, whether they are affirmations, letters that you can write, poems,
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whatever, y'all, we are looking for women that would like to pour into
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some of these women that are incarcerated within the TDCJ. And if you have
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time, I want y'all to go over to the magazine page and flip through
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it and read that article that is in there about that women prison. I've
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had individuals reach out to me and talk about the stench, the dirtiness,
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and just so much and how nasty the guards are to them, and how
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they do not allow them to clean, and how they keep things from them.
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And people will say this does not happen, but it does. Like
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I'm in a class and I'm writing a paper and we had to submit our
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rough drafts through a discussion board. So my classmates are giving me their opinions
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and their thoughts, and a lot of them don't believe that this is actually
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happening. And I'm telling them, look, go to YouTube, to my
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YouTube page and hear these interviews. It's not nothing that I'm making up.
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And then not only that, you can go to other newspapers and news articles
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and YouTube google corruption in Texas and you'll be surprised at what you see.
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And then from people that are not even incarcerated. I just had a young
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man that just beating the case. They were trying to put him in prison.
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But a video, a police body cam, a thirteen second police body
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cam, help this man with his freedom. When they wanted to offer him
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twenty five to life for something that they tried to plot against him to do
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nothing that nobody told me. I heard it. This came straight from the
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guy that it happened to y'all. And it's sad. It's sad that this
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is what's happening to us. And I've come to realize in Texas, the
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majority of other people that are in prison are Mexicans and African Americans that you
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don't hardly see any Caucasians in prison. And the reason why they stereotyped them
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Mexicans overrunning the prisons in Texas. Why because half of them cannot speak English,
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half of them don't understand American laws. And it's so much. And
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they tried the police officers and the government officials in Texas. Or they are
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extorting money from these people that are taking all of their property, they're taking
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their money out the bank. They are doing stuff to them that just is
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not acceptable. And some of these cases, you listen to these cases,
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if they were in another state, these people wouldn't even be locked up.
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You know. I listened to a young guy's case the other day and he
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was he's a young guy been locked up since he was seventeen. It's forty
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four years old. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, y'all. My
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next guest is on how are you hi? How are you okay? Man?
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So if you would, would you introduce yourself please? Yes, my
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name is mister Cornell, coming man, and i'm here had the John become
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a unit man, I'm gonna fifty four years Beer County, Texas. You
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say one hundred and fifty four years. How do one get one hundred and
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fifty four years? Well, ma'am. During the Texas criminal justice system,
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ma'am, we have what we call a stacked center's process down here. And
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because of that, ma'am, if you get charged with two offenses, the
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state of Texas can stack them on top of each other. And with that
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being said, they're add up the number of years you have. And because
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of that, ma'am, that's how much your time is. So I got
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a fifty five and a ninety nine running consecutive and they stacked. So how
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much of that would you actually have to serve? Wow, that's a good
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question, ma'am. Okay, depending on what type of legislation you're under.
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Okay. I started in nineteen ninety two, so I was under the one
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foot law and because of that, I had to do on a nun eppravated
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semis I had to do fifteen years before aggravated Simmons, I had to do
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thirty years right, so I got thirty three back years served already, ma'am
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on myself. Wow, that's a lot of time. And if you would
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share a little bit about your case, okay, ma'am. Well, my
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situation is the fact that I was charged with a murder case that I did
39:30
not commit, and it's under the Texas law party situation, and what is
39:35
happening is that proud of my trial, little did I know the criminal investigators
39:40
had falsified documents to make me a party to the murder. You know,
39:45
because of that. When I went to trial, a jury convicted me for
39:51
the murder. But after my trial, they fought to buy documents to send
39:54
to me to challenge the conviction because all the evidence in the case was fultified
40:00
and fabricated. So with that being said, ma'am, I have been using
40:05
fultified government documents to challenge my conviction and since then everything in my case has
40:10
been denying. And with that being said, I have been completely shut out
40:14
of the Texas criminal justice system from challenging my conviction. So as of right
40:20
now, ma'am, I was forced to try to get all of the documents
40:23
to prove that I'm nicer. Like I said, it's been hard because of
40:28
the way our structure is down here in Texas. We have we don't have
40:30
no support, we don't have no help down here. So you know,
40:34
our criminal justice system has shut us out. And how is it possible for
40:40
a criminal justice system to shut you out? How is that possible for that
40:45
person that don't know anything about the justice system, How is it possible to
40:50
get shut out? Okay? We have what we call anipotism man. Okay,
40:55
in my particular, in any particular count here in the state of Texas,
41:00
anywhere, ma'am. If my judge become the district attorney, and my
41:05
district attorney become the judge, and the judge and my case become the Court
41:09
of Appeals judge, and my judge that judge goes to the Court of Criminal
41:14
Appeals. Anybody who's convicted under under their jurisdiction, ma'am, they are classified
41:20
as a political prisoner. Why because everything that's following, your case has got
41:24
to where a tape on it, and these are the only individuals who will
41:29
see your case. Therefore, you will not get any release on your case.
41:34
So how is that possible? How is that possible? Wouldn't that in
41:38
normal or what we call normal, wouldn't that be a conflict of interest?
41:45
Well, ma'am, you know what, that's a good question you asked that.
41:49
Yes, ma'am, he is a conflict of interest because in my particular
41:53
situation, little did I know, and this is happening all over the state
41:57
of Texas and elsewhere. My attorney for the sign to me father judge who
42:01
became the district attorney. My attorney is a former assistant district attorney from the
42:07
same clipm. So with that being said, now, like I said,
42:10
anything that I followed, they are the only one who get to see it.
42:15
So what they're doing is put a red taste on that bill to keep
42:19
you in the prison system, to make sure that you would never have overturn
42:23
that case. But how is that possible? How how can these people continue
42:30
to do that? If it if it's a conflict the interest, if if
42:35
I was to to to if I worked for Wendy's and I wanted to put
42:45
create get the Big Mac sauce and put on the Wendy's burger. That would
42:52
be a conflict of interest. I couldn't go over to Wendy's. I couldn't
42:58
go over to Big Mac, I means and get their their sauce and come
43:02
back to Windys and put it on their sandwich. That that that would be
43:06
a conflict of interest as this because these are two people that are competing against
43:10
each other, and I couldn't work for one and work for the other and
43:14
trying to comingo their stuff. That that that's a that's a conflicted interest.
43:20
So who governs? So what happens when something like this happens. Shouldn't these
43:27
people excuse themselves or pass these these these these resolutions off to somebody else to
43:32
make a decision on, or these cases off to someone else to make a
43:36
decision on. Okay, yes, ma'am, okay, that's true. But
43:40
here in Texas we have what we call the State Law of Texas and the
43:45
Conduct Commission of Office that investigate judges. So if we follow complaint against our
43:52
attorneys, it comes to the same people who they hang out with magnifism,
43:57
their friends and they colleague stuff like that. So any complaint that we found
44:01
is going to be denied anyway. That's what they call exhausting our remedies.
44:07
We have to follow with them to exhaust the remedy. True enough that the
44:09
conflict adventures. But when we come back denied, nom that just keeps us
44:14
from you know, getting our cases overturned. We have to go to the
44:16
next step and the next step and the next step, and all of these
44:21
steps add up to years and years and years in prison now, so just
44:24
years and years that these people can just set y'all off and just sit there
44:29
and twitter their thumbs and still make this money out of y'all and all of
44:34
this stuff. Like because because from my understanding, I'm coming to realize a
44:38
lot of stuff about the state of Texas. You know, I find it
44:44
real strange that prisoners can get CDLs, they can get certified as master mechanics,
44:55
they can get certified in these various jobs as if they was real people,
45:02
like real free body people out in the free world, and these people
45:07
can actually leave the prison and go do these jobs like they actually have prisoners
45:13
out doing deliveries and out doing stuff, but they don't even get paid for
45:19
it. So to me, I feel like these people are truly taking advantage
45:27
of the system, and they are doing all of this so that they can
45:31
get free labor, so that they can run these multi million dollar corporations and
45:37
they can do all this this underhanded stuff, And to me, I just
45:45
feel like it's just another form of slavery. It just keep pushing the I
45:52
just don't get it. But go ahead. The factory, the license plate
46:01
factory, and the machine is the only machine here in the state of Texas
46:05
that it's sitting in the Prinson system. And we are the ones who make
46:08
the license plates. We are the ones who make the tag every day,
46:14
millions and millions of dollars of tags and license plates every day free of charge.
46:17
We are the ones who's making the so that they sell in the free
46:21
world. We are the ones who's making key shirts. Now, we are
46:24
the ones making mostly all of the products now that's being sold, and it's
46:29
for free. Okay, here in the state of Tekes, we're supposed to
46:31
be getting good the time now, but here's what happened. They took away
46:36
our good time and then gave the coroll Board the power to consider whether or
46:40
not they should grandpar deny us Pole as a means of our good time to
46:45
make sure that we the rehabilitator or not well if we all rehabilitated. The
46:50
Coroll Board numbers are also forming a district attorneys and judges and lawyers. They
46:55
set us off time and time and time and time again. It's up to
47:00
fifteen set off that some guys have gotten now and we have completed every program.
47:05
We've done everything in our powlem to try to make corole. But we
47:08
can't make prole here in the state of Texas because we are governed by an
47:13
individual, not system. So that's our problem here in the state of Texas
47:19
man, and nobody is doing nothing about it. Our governor won't grant us
47:22
anything. You study fifty nine everything that has to do with the trigger systems
47:27
to roll, well, he's corrupt. I mean he's corrupt. You talk
47:32
about the governor Greg Abbott, I mean I google these people and if those
47:39
that are tune in those that follow. If you go over to the magazine
47:44
and flip through the magazine, you'll see an article in there. You will
47:49
see pictures off him Patrick Impact. If you google them, it comes up
47:57
corruption. How can you google people and it comes corruption and they still are
48:02
running a state, They're still in charge of stuff, and you know that
48:07
there is non corruption. You know that these people are getting some type of
48:15
payback or some type of incentitive to be connected to this. Who is these
48:22
people that are benefiting from all of this money that's being produced from prisoners.
48:28
Who is making the money. Because from my understanding, when when y'all go
48:32
to these different jobs, y'all have to sign time cards, y'all have to
48:37
sign time sheets, y'all got to lock your work hours. You have to
48:40
do all this stuff so that they can track all this so somebody is getting
48:45
in there again. If you always follow the money trail, you can find
48:51
out where all the corruption is. When you follow the money trail, you'll
48:55
find out who family is really running these businesses. Because I can guarantee you
49:00
the governor, some of these these these officials, these people that are in
49:06
high places have some type of keepbacks coming from all of these businesses that are
49:13
being ran through the TDC jack. And that's why I keep saying, the
49:19
Department of Justice need to come in and they need to start with the governor
49:23
and do a clean sweep and go through all the records and go through everything,
49:29
across every T and dot every I until they get to the bottom of
49:32
these last three to four decades, not years, But we're talking about decades
49:38
of corruption that have taken place in the state of Texas. Y'all. It's
49:44
ridiculous. You got a picture it said the gop app app app Abbot,
49:53
Paxton and Patrick. That show your lieutenant governor, your governor, and your
50:00
your attorney general. These are people that control that control Texas and all of
50:07
them are corrupt. And they have turned the parole board into a board that
50:14
is governed by how they feel. If they feel like you're not gonna,
50:21
you not gonna. However they feel is what happens. They may be having
50:24
a bad day and you come before them and and you look at them wrong.
50:29
They may say no, they deny you. They offset you. You
50:31
gotta be offset for seven years. You gotta be offset for this. How
50:36
can so much power lay in these people hands? And we talk about them
50:42
blocking out the number, why they get who authorized them to block out the
50:47
number? Because the number, the number that they place on your parole thing,
50:55
it tells you where you are, wherever you are, So it's supposed
51:00
to tell where if you need to go to this class, if you need
51:05
to do this. It's supposed to help with the progress of you coming out
51:09
and coming home. But they block it out so they don't you don't even
51:14
know what your progress is. You're not able to check on it's supposed to
51:16
This is supposed to be public records. Anybody's supposed to be able to go
51:21
and see what your progress is, what are you doing, how you rehabilitate.
51:25
Now, that's how you hold people accountable. That's how you make these
51:30
people be transparent when you see what's going on. Not only that, not
51:37
only do it help the parole board, but it helped those that are in
51:42
the administration at these facilities. And then it helped the family members to see
51:47
what they how they family member is progressing and coming home, and what they
51:53
can do to encourage their family member to do what they need to do so
51:57
that they can come home. But Texas don't believe in rehabilitation, so they
52:04
hide out all of this so that people don't know what's going on. And
52:08
when stuff is being hid, it just opened up room for corruption. It
52:14
just opened up room for people to do what they want to do and not
52:17
be subject to any type of punishment. These people can do what they want
52:24
to do if you look at it, and I was telling somebody today,
52:30
if you look at it and you look at the pattern, you look at
52:35
the pattern that's being possessed. You hear people say that they never get into
52:39
any trouble. They don't have no disciplinary action. They've completed all the courses
52:45
that they've offered. They have degree after degree after three, they got their
52:50
diploma, they got they ged, they got whatever they needed to get.
52:54
It's nothing f left for a lot of these people to get. You're talking
52:59
about some of these people have done twenty five thirty plus years, so it's
53:04
nothing else for them to get. But they constantly setting them off. They're
53:08
constantly saying this and saying that because they don't get in in trouble. They
53:13
say that manipulating the system. How are you manipulating the system when you not
53:16
getting in trouble because you want to one day come home, You get in
53:22
disciplinary trouble, you get in disciplinary action, come up and you have to
53:27
you get put in segregation, you get put in this, you get put
53:30
and then they add more time on. So if you know they gonna do
53:34
that, why would you get in trouble. The objective is to come home.
53:38
The objective is to change. The objective is to not be the same
53:44
person that you was when you went in there. It's come out to be
53:52
a productive citizen, change to come out different. But they want you to
53:59
come and you weren't in because that is the thing that I'm hearing. They're
54:02
teaching you how to be a better criminal when people are trying to rehabilitate themselves.
54:09
And then a lot of these people didn't have the opportunity to attend a
54:14
lot of the programs because they cut all the stuff out because they can't keep
54:19
nobody hired. Now, it's a lot and we need people that will speak
54:25
up and will will stand up for these people that are on the inside,
54:30
because there are a lot of people that are behind prison while in places that
54:37
they don't have family member there, Like I'm not in Texas, but I
54:43
go to bat for those people in Texas. Because it was brought to my
54:45
attention, y'all. I just had today to write a letter to the the
54:52
executive director because one of the inmates complained about the warden and all these people
55:00
laughing at him because he wanted bleach to clean with and wanted some wanted to
55:06
clean his area and to keep his area clean, like what is wrong with
55:09
that? And he said, for weeks they had been brushing him off and
55:14
telling them no, and laughing at them and doing all kinds of horrible things
55:17
to him. So me, y'all know, I get that pen out,
55:23
and I get the writing, and I come up with a letter, and
55:24
I sent that letter off, and he sent me a letter back, thanking
55:29
me for sending that letter off. And he got some bleaching, He got
55:32
some water to a bucket to put some water in so he can clean.
55:38
And y'all, sometimes that's all they need. That's all they need. Again,
55:45
Cornell, you know how passionate I am about this, So sometime I
55:49
just just take over. But I'm gonna turn it back over to you.
55:52
And if there's anything, I know we getting ready to close. Is there
55:57
anything that you would like to say to the listeners, those that are tuned
56:01
in to those that were here to replay about what you have going on and
56:07
how y'all are trying to get some of these things changed so that y'all that
56:10
have been incarcerated over twenty thirty years can come home. Well, yes,
56:16
ma'am. I would like to point out, ma'am to the fact that you
56:20
know, I am a part of a Free Texas campaign program man, and
56:23
this Free Texas campaign program man has been addressing the corruption and the criminal justice
56:30
system, the TDCJ, the parole board now and it's given some traction.
56:36
Just recently, ma'am, I got a thumbs up from a mister carl O'shaman,
56:39
which is a state representative regard of the fact that he has too been
56:44
listening and reviewing issues about the Free Texas campaign man. So with that,
56:49
man said, if the public is listening to this, we need any support
56:52
that y'all can give us in order to get these people to listen to what
56:55
you people are saying out there in the world, to get some type of
57:00
sickness to sign or petition sign to they seed people do their job. We
57:04
need to reform our criminal justice system. We need to beat some of our
57:07
whole parole board system. We need to take these lawyers and judges and dn's
57:12
and off our parole board system because we can't get a bread champion like that,
57:16
no way and no way. So we'll just being said. If anybody
57:21
is listening, we hope and pray to talk, can sign petitions or whatever
57:23
y'all can to deal a part of the free Texting campaign and to come but
57:29
get some type of support, some type of voice. That's what we need,
57:32
ma'am really, because right now the pritical system is so short. A
57:36
staff man, we don't get no recreation. We bad to get food.
57:38
They giving us food loaf. A food loaf is just a bunch of mixed
57:43
food mixed up in a grinder and just put into a corn bridge fashion with
57:49
a piece of cheese. Ma'am. The fact that we can't even walk the
57:52
child to go eat, so this is really bad. Okay, So ma'am,
57:55
that's anything that y'all gonna do to help us, ma'am out there in
57:59
the world clean please help us because we need it. That's that's that's that's
58:04
what we're trying to say, man, please help us. We need that.
58:08
Well. I definitely I thank you and I'm definitely doing what I can
58:15
out here as one of the co founders for the Free Texas campaign. And
58:20
y'allo was on earlier and he was talking about a lot of the things that
58:24
you guys are doing behind the wall as far as self development and identity and
58:34
trying to rehabilitate yourself so that you guys can come out and be productive citizens
58:39
and be the men that God has called you to. That was one of
58:44
the things that he talked about. So I'm definitely I'm excited about what God
58:50
is doing and how he's moving through the Free Textes campaign, and I'm just
58:52
excited to be a part of it. But all I can say is just
58:58
keep your head up, keep doing what you guys are doing behind the walls,
59:01
and I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing out here on the outside.
59:05
And as we can continue to develop and pull this Free Texas campaign together,
59:10
as people join forces with us around around the globe, because it's getting bigger
59:15
than just here in South Carolina and in Texas. I said that we have
59:22
people that are reaching out from different areas wanting to join forces and want to
59:25
be a part because what is happening in Texas is happening in other places and
59:30
it's sad. It is sad, and it is time for change and and
59:37
and in order for change to come, we got to be the change that
59:40
we desired to see. So with that being said, again, thank you
59:45
for being a voice, and thank you for stopping by the Crew podcast and
59:52
allowing me to share your story. I pray that you have a wonderful rest
59:57
of your evening. Despite and sit you auation, just stay strong and keep
1:00:07
pressing. Again, I want to thank you guys for tuning in and being
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a part of this broadcast. If there's anything that has been shared on tonight
1:00:15
that has been an inspiration, encouraging, or if you would just like to
1:00:19
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1:00:22
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1:00:42
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1:00:47
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1:00:54
want to thank you guys for tuning in on tonight. I pray that your
1:00:59
evening it's blessed what you can see in the natural. Again, I thank
1:01:02
you for all your support. Y'all have a great night and we will will
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