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Paradise By the Dashboard Light · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her radio. It's Almost Famous time and we're here.
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  Speaker 1: It's a huge episode today. We have Maddie Pruett coming on.
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  Speaker 1: We also are going to do our regular Bachelor recap
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna do Bachelor headlines. But to start, we
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  Speaker 1: want to also break down the rule for this week's
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor Brackett. Actually, what we got this week's batch bracket
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  Speaker 1: rule is plus ten points if a contestant mentions they
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  Speaker 1: can see a future with another contestant. Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: this is the week for this. There's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: lot of this chatter. It's gonna be great. Hey, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: huge episode this week. Um, massive stuff going on. I
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  Speaker 1: do want to mention that a lot of people out
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  Speaker 1: there are probably expecting us because Michelle's suitors have been revealed.
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  Speaker 1: They're they're expecting us to break down that. We we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do that, Ashley. We're just gonna wait till after
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  Speaker 1: Paradise because okay, great, thanks Batt. I feel like we're
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  Speaker 1: jumping me the gun on all of these meet the
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  Speaker 1: contestants Because am I wrong in saying that they released
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  Speaker 1: the New Bachelor's contestants as well. This week they gotta
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  Speaker 1: we got a sneak peek, we got some photos. I
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  Speaker 1: love their official but I'm like, guys, we're not meeting
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  Speaker 1: these girls till January. I really don't care. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, and I don't think our listeners do. Ei there,
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  Speaker 1: we have a lot to focus on in Paradise is
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  Speaker 1: that thing right now? We will do it for you.
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  Speaker 1: Just give us some time. Let's talk Paradise. Let's focus
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  Speaker 1: for a bit. So let's start here. Actually, this week's
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  Speaker 1: episodes a big episode. We obviously have the drama between
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  Speaker 1: Ivan uh and Aaron kind of rolling over to the
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  Speaker 1: start of this Actley, what do we got? Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: obviously we know that Aaron is mad as usual because Chelsea.
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  Speaker 1: But it's okay because in this case, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of on his side. Uh yeah, because he
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  Speaker 1: is going after Ivan because he kissed Chelsea after saying
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  Speaker 1: things like I am not here trying to get anybody's rose,
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  Speaker 1: Like I've kind of been here, I've met everyone, and
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  Speaker 1: I understand why Aaron gets mad at this. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: I always feel like Aaron's a little bit too dramatic
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  Speaker 1: about it. But then Ivan said something to him like,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't even pull her. She pulled me.
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  Speaker 1: She was one and wanted to talk to me. And
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  Speaker 1: then we do that little flashback and we see that
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  Speaker 1: it's not the case and Ivan was definitely lying and
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  Speaker 1: he was kind of lying to everyone. So I'm like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Ivan is step off. What do you What do you
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  Speaker 1: think about that moment? Because I think it gets even
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  Speaker 1: um you become even more on Aaron's side later at
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  Speaker 1: the actual Row ceremony. Well, let's start by saying, this
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  Speaker 1: could not have been a worse episode. Ivan, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: a fan favorite, a guy that has kind of walked
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  Speaker 1: without a lot of issues on this show. He has
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  Speaker 1: like just a few weeks left, and it feels like
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  Speaker 1: everything blows up for him at the beginning of this episode,
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  Speaker 1: Like everything kind of blows up during during the process
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  Speaker 1: of it. This is my thought. Yeah, I think Ivan
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  Speaker 1: was in the wrong. I think he admitted it. I
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  Speaker 1: think we have any time we have video footage of
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  Speaker 1: somebody lying, um, we have to dig into that a
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  Speaker 1: bit and say, hey, he messed up. Now. Do I
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  Speaker 1: think Ivan's the worst hum in the world. No, did
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  Speaker 1: he do anything that outrageous that other people have not
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  Speaker 1: done on Paradise, No not, but he lied about it
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  Speaker 1: like he did, and he tried to point it on
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  Speaker 1: Aaron or point it on Chelsea, and I think that
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  Speaker 1: was unfair. I think it was a big mistake on
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  Speaker 1: his part. And obviously we'll talk about it later, but
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  Speaker 1: Ivan's whole episode kind of was a big blow up.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to ask you this though, because I've
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  Speaker 1: been a fan of her from the very beginning I
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  Speaker 1: still am. But it was Chelsea at all in the
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  Speaker 1: wrong during any of this, Like she kissed Ivan, she
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  Speaker 1: was obviously with Aaron. We see through the episode that
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  Speaker 1: she feels like her and Aaron are a thing, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: But did Chelsea mess up at all with the rules
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  Speaker 1: of Paradise by kissing Ivan on that couch? Probably not?
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  Speaker 1: Why because she's kind of like in the position of
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  Speaker 1: being pursued, Like I think she's the guys have the
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  Speaker 1: road with the guys don't have the roses. Um, So
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  Speaker 1: she is in the position of being pursued, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think things are like tight enough with Aaron for
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  Speaker 1: her to like not be okay with was talking to Ivan. Um.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I kind of have to say about that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't think she was
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  Speaker 1: in the wrong. I do think it hurts her relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Aaron. Um. I think he probably thought there was
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  Speaker 1: something happening. I think he probably thought that was a
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  Speaker 1: big day for them for to kind of enhance their relationship,
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  Speaker 1: and so when that happened, I do think it took
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  Speaker 1: a step back. Which maybe it's giving the excuse for
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  Speaker 1: Aaron to why he did what he did during problem,
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  Speaker 1: which we'll get to you in a little bit. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that also weird. It's just like kind of all related together.
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  Speaker 1: So let's let's jump to the next big moment, and
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  Speaker 1: that is when Wells says that he needs to talk
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  Speaker 1: to Ivan privately before the for the Rose ceremony, and
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  Speaker 1: he says that they basically caught him going to another
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  Speaker 1: contestant her name is Alexa, her room the night that
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  Speaker 1: they stayed in the hotel. We we knew from those
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  Speaker 1: scenes in the next next episode last week that something
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  Speaker 1: obviously went down for them to even show the fact
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  Speaker 1: that they left campus for a little while. We were
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  Speaker 1: thinking that possibly he had something with Chelsea, but actually
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  Speaker 1: he ends up seeing like a list or something on
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  Speaker 1: a producer's phone that tells him that this girl, Alexa,
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  Speaker 1: who he was interested in from the get go, is
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  Speaker 1: in the hotel and I guess, awaiting her arrival to
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  Speaker 1: Paradise ends up spending some quality time with her alone. Noah,
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  Speaker 1: his roommate totally must have known this because he left
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  Speaker 1: the room for hours unless he said he was going
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  Speaker 1: to do an interview for a long time. Um, and
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  Speaker 1: then he you know how, he has to admit this,
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  Speaker 1: and to me in this moment, the big like dun
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  Speaker 1: dundone is Okay, he really was using Chelsea. He was
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  Speaker 1: really using her to get the rows so that Alexa
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  Speaker 1: would come down the next week. And I'm actually shocked
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  Speaker 1: there were even any girls that came down this week.
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  Speaker 1: I think normally they cut it off with the new
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  Speaker 1: arrivals at this point. Yeah, I felt a little a
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  Speaker 1: little bit like odd because you only have like a
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  Speaker 1: week to build this relationship and then yeah, not even
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  Speaker 1: have a sleepover afterwards. But we did see some new
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  Speaker 1: girls come up and and some new people. But let's
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  Speaker 1: focus on this for a second, because this was obviously
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  Speaker 1: a big moment in the episode. It's very dramatic, it
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  Speaker 1: was stretched out, it was played out. But Ivan's biggest
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  Speaker 1: mistake here, in my hinion, the reason he left is
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  Speaker 1: not I mean not necessarily pursuing um Alexa because I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he was fairly single. He made some poor choices,
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  Speaker 1: but he was fairly single. I mean, I'm wondering if
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  Speaker 1: the big mistake, and tell me if I just totally
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  Speaker 1: missed this, is that he got on a producer's phone.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think like if Ashley, if you and
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  Speaker 1: I as friends, if I had my phone laying out
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  Speaker 1: and you got on my phone UM to research something
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  Speaker 1: within the like that I had on my phone, Like,
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  Speaker 1: that's a big invasion of privacy, one that like you
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  Speaker 1: and I would have an issue with. So I think
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  Speaker 1: that to me stood out as like that, hey, if
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  Speaker 1: he just went and visit Alexa, weird decision, not a
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  Speaker 1: great decision, not an end all be all, like he
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  Speaker 1: was pursuing a girly light. It was he broke the
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  Speaker 1: trust of the show. Okay, So this week i'van tweeted
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  Speaker 1: something that was kind of juicy for all of us,
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  Speaker 1: especially with podcasts. He said that anybody who gets me
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  Speaker 1: on whatever first podcast I go on is going to
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  Speaker 1: get gold. So my thought is that there's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more to this story and it's not in there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know whether he saw a list. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that he would actually go on somebody's phone. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I think there's something additional to this. Okay, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to make assumptions,
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  Speaker 1: but I do remember something within this episode of him
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  Speaker 1: saying there is a producer's phone laying out and he
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  Speaker 1: saw it. So I was just thinking, Hey, it sounded
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  Speaker 1: like from the show at least that he took a
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  Speaker 1: phone and was looking at it. But that could be
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  Speaker 1: there could be more to that, which historically there has been,
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  Speaker 1: and so what will be interested here? What that is
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  Speaker 1: but a big mistake. I even goes home, he tells
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  Speaker 1: a group that what happened, He dismisses himself and so
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  Speaker 1: there is one more guy gone. So then we get
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  Speaker 1: to the row ceremony and actually some crazy stuff happens.
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  Speaker 1: He says to Chelsea, just wanted to let you know,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't gonna accept your rose like the big Man, And
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  Speaker 1: it was like the opposite of that. It was so gross. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're right, I forgot that same line. Um, that's a
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  Speaker 1: good point. Act that was a weird con don't don't worry.
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  Speaker 1: Don't worry. I wasn't it wasn't actually going to be
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  Speaker 1: that low. Yeah, I wasn't gona accept your rose if
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  Speaker 1: you gave it to me. Um, yeah, that's weird. Any Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so we get them too this rose ceremony. Serena gives
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  Speaker 1: Joe herrose not crazy, not shocking. Abigail gives no other rose,
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  Speaker 1: not shocking at this point. Marissa gives Riley the rose,
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  Speaker 1: Marie gives Kenny the rose. Becky gives Thomas a rose.
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  Speaker 1: A relationship that seems to be really strong. Pictures have
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  Speaker 1: came out that they might still be dating. Who knows, um,
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  Speaker 1: but this feels like a relationship we don't get to
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  Speaker 1: see anything about. Like, I have no clue. Deck is
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  Speaker 1: one of my my closest friends from the franchise. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't got to speak to with or in a couple
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  Speaker 1: of months. But um, it just feels weird though we
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen them at all, I don't know what's going
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  Speaker 1: on there. Chelsea gives Aaron the rose, Natasha gives ed
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  Speaker 1: her rose. He gives James a rose. Blake, dr Joe
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  Speaker 1: and DeMar go home. Anything shocking here? Because remember did
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  Speaker 1: we see things? Do we both see things that weren't there?
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  Speaker 1: He kissed Marissa and we never talked about it because
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  Speaker 1: it never aired? Yeah? What was that? Did we see things?
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  Speaker 1: I mean no, seriously, audience, so let us know. Did
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  Speaker 1: we get a cut that nobody nobody else saw? How
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  Speaker 1: is people not freaking out over this? Like Marissa and
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  Speaker 1: Riley feels so strong. They feel like they really haven't
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  Speaker 1: hit any roadblocks. They've had tough conversations, but every relationship does.
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  Speaker 1: And then we see the scene that shocked you and
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  Speaker 1: I actually like shocked us and said we can't we
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's going to go on, and then it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't ever get shown. Um, so what have we Gotta
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  Speaker 1: get some fallow up there. I'm sure we'll have Riley
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  Speaker 1: or Marissa on the podcast um or to mar here
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  Speaker 1: at some point. We've got to ask. At that point,
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  Speaker 1: what in the world that were we seeing? Like it
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  Speaker 1: was that just reimagining things might be the best way
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  Speaker 1: to ask that question, because you and I both saw it. Well.
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  Speaker 1: The next morning they wake up, everything seems to be good.
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  Speaker 1: They're hanging by the pool, people are kissing people are smooching,
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  Speaker 1: people are relaxing. It feels like the time that relationships
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  Speaker 1: are blossoming. Wells comes out um at this point, I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad to see Wells still in his bartender shirt, but
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  Speaker 1: he's no longer just the bartender. Actually he is the host,
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  Speaker 1: which is great because it feels like he's been the
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  Speaker 1: host kind of the entire time. I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 1: he better be getting paid all season as the host
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  Speaker 1: because he's really helped out a lot, I know. All right,
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  Speaker 1: and then we get a new girl in, which again
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  Speaker 1: I am shocked that there's new People might be wrong,
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  Speaker 1: but I always thought that there was like two groups
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  Speaker 1: of girls that come in and then two groups of
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  Speaker 1: guys that come in beyond the original cast, and they
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  Speaker 1: are just bringing people and it's crazy. But Anna comes in,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm kind of excited that Anna's there, just because,
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  Speaker 1: like she was such a splashy personality on Matt season.
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  Speaker 1: I think it would been a waste not to have
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  Speaker 1: her in Paradise. She you know, not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: guys are available at this point, and we see her
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  Speaker 1: talk to Thomas and he says no, Kenny, he says no.
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  Speaker 1: But then James says yes, which isn't surprising because Tia
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  Speaker 1: has been pretty honest about the fact that she's not
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  Speaker 1: and on that and I think he deserves to go
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  Speaker 1: on this date and they definitely feel like they have
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  Speaker 1: more chemistry than he does with Tia, and I think
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  Speaker 1: and like Tia is bummed, and I totally understand that,
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  Speaker 1: but like, also she knows that she's not going to
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  Speaker 1: end up marrying James. Well, and it's getting so late
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  Speaker 1: in the game that it's just like, why why even
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  Speaker 1: like pretend, like why even try with somebody that you
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  Speaker 1: know that's not gonna happen with Yeah, yeah, And and
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  Speaker 1: at some point that question is going to be asked, right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure well is at the end of the Uh
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  Speaker 1: probably the next episode is gonna say, hey, if you
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  Speaker 1: don't see this becoming something serious, you need to go
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  Speaker 1: home and to have those conversations. So it was ending
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  Speaker 1: soon anyways, we would guess Thomas said something during this
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  Speaker 1: part with I believe it was Anna that was really
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  Speaker 1: really good to hear. Uh. He said Paradise is a
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  Speaker 1: place for redemption, um and and it put things into
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  Speaker 1: perspective for me, right, because I oftentimes have have been
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  Speaker 1: been the one where people show up to the beach
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  Speaker 1: and I just have the image of them from their
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  Speaker 1: time on the show. Like, that's how it's hard for
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  Speaker 1: me to break through that, right, I Mean there's people
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  Speaker 1: that show up that I'm like, on the show, you
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  Speaker 1: were mean, or hey you really messed up, or hey
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  Speaker 1: you lied, or hey you had a girlfriend of whatever
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  Speaker 1: it was. I I carry that over to the Paradise,
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  Speaker 1: which I think is um fair in a sense. But
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  Speaker 1: Thomas said something there with Anna that was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: paradise is that place for you to be reborn again,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like to to have a redemption story, to
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  Speaker 1: show people on the beach who you really are. And
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  Speaker 1: so Anna shows up there for that, and I think
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  Speaker 1: it really maybe, I'm assuming that phrase from Thomas really
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  Speaker 1: gave her some confidence to like free herself up from
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  Speaker 1: what she thinks everybody thinks of her. I think so,
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  Speaker 1: I think totally. When when James and Anna go on
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  Speaker 1: their date, though, I'm like, what a date from hell? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just feels hot and sticky. I mean, nothing's worse. I
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: wish to eyelish Taj was on that date. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Can can you believe the obsession that the show has
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  Speaker 1: a season with just decorating people with food and like
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  Speaker 1: sort of sexual situations. We had Won the Whip Cream
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  Speaker 1: with Marissa and Riley, then we had um last Week's
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  Speaker 1: Taco thing with Kenny and Maury, and now we have
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  Speaker 1: the Human Turo with James and Anna and it's just ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: And then they go on. Then the snakes are all
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  Speaker 1: over them. I was like, oh my God, get me
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  Speaker 1: out of this date. But they like can they hit
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  Speaker 1: it off? And it goes well. Um me. While back
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  Speaker 1: at the beach, there's this Abigail thing going on with Noah,
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  Speaker 1: and Noah ends up saying that he's falling in love
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  Speaker 1: with her, having a really emotional moment, and he's not
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  Speaker 1: feeling anything from her. She winks at him, and I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that he has been ahead of Abigail in
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  Speaker 1: feelings this entire time, and I'm starting to feel like
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  Speaker 1: Abigail is going to be the one that soon breaks
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  Speaker 1: this relationship apart. We see later in the episode we
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  Speaker 1: were far We're far from that. Yeah, well, let's finish
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  Speaker 1: out that thought, because that relationship is one that we
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  Speaker 1: and most people there thought were really strong. We thought
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  Speaker 1: it was gonna last the superlatives at the problem, which
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  Speaker 1: we'll get to in a second, said they're gonna last
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  Speaker 1: and then it ends. Yeah, shocking that Noah does it,
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  Speaker 1: But I do think there's a lot of pain there.
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  Speaker 1: I think breakups are always hard. I do understand what
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  Speaker 1: no Noah is saying though, right Um, he had strong feelings,
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  Speaker 1: but he just can't get to a place where she's
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  Speaker 1: his person. I think it's fair. I think it's a
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  Speaker 1: really hard breakup, especially at the end. Um, But I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he was in the wrong for doing it
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  Speaker 1: now compared to in a week. Okay, But I'm just
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  Speaker 1: like so confused as to how he went from one
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  Speaker 1: night saying I've been falling in love with you, to
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  Speaker 1: the other night and and him being like sad about
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  Speaker 1: the fact that she didn't say anything back, and then
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  Speaker 1: to the next night he's like, you're not my person,
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  Speaker 1: and I've been trying to make you my person. You
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  Speaker 1: can love somebody but not be in love with them.
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  Speaker 1: I am just really confused at the one eight here.
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  Speaker 1: That being said, I feel like he's also probably feeling
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  Speaker 1: a lot of pressure, like is at this point, because
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  Speaker 1: it's are you gonna get engaged? Are you going to
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  Speaker 1: break up because that's kind of what it comes down to,
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  Speaker 1: which I don't love. I don't love that aspect of Paradise,
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  Speaker 1: but that's kind of what's encouraged. And um, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure what it is, but I thought it was that.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was that norm that we either breakup
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  Speaker 1: or get engaged. But then when he just kept saying
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  Speaker 1: you're not my person, You're not my person, I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: he's really not like leaving a window open for this
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  Speaker 1: to like ever rekindle in real life. No. No, that
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  Speaker 1: was tough and it was hard to hear. Breakups are
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  Speaker 1: always messy. Well, one breakup we never saw happen, but
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: there's a relationship that was formed from it. Is our
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: girl Natasha, who's so many have cheered for this season
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: loses ed. Um. I guess she's sick, you know. Um,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: she's kind of out of the Paradise uh scene right
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: now recovering. She didn't feel good at prom, she didn't
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: go to prompt that she she didn't go to prom.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: She was sick. Um And so Eddie McKinnon form a thing.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Are we feeling bad for Natasha right now? Do we
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: feel like this relationship that got away, or do we
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: feel like, hey, this was bound to happen. Okay, honestly
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: not because Eda Natasha, We're not going to get married.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: There was no great love there. There was there was
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: some good fun, but there was no great love. And
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I did feel so bad for McKenna, who and Natasha
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: has had so many weeks and like opportunities. It's just
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: not happening for her there. And that's okay, because it
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: is going to happen for Natasha because she rocks and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: because she's beautiful and we have no worries for her.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I just at this point, I think it's just not
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: happening in Paradise and that's okay, um. But with McKenna,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking McKenna, she was at that V I P
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: party weeks ago. This girl had a quarantine before that,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and then she was in the hotel sitting there for
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: at least at least seven days between that party and
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: entering here in Paradise. And then she shows up and
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: there's no guy there, single, really ready to wanting to
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: go on a date. She gets denied by Aaron. I
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: feel her so much in this moment because that's how
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I I it was for me going into Paradise three
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: not only was like the whole Jared scenario on my
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: are very heavily, but there was legitimately only one person
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and that was Daniel McGuire, the Canadian, the speedo that
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I had the availability to go out on a date with.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: And that was really hard, really really hard. So when
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I saw ed go down there and say like, hey,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: let's just have fun, Like even if you hate me,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: we hate each other, let's just have fun, I was like,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: this is really sweet. It's a really nice gesture from
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: somebody who probably who just knows that things with Natasha
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: aren't going to end end up together. Yea, what was
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: your take? No, I'd agree. I think you said it
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: best and I think you've lived through that experience so
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: you can speak to it, and I think that gives
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: it a lot of legitimacy. Um, I thought he was
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: just being sweet. I didn't really realize that there was like, yeah,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: that he liked her until later on. Well, uh, we
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: get to prom. Problem is a big deal. It's fun,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: it's exciting people are asking each other on prom. Tia
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: is super sad because she doesn't have a prom date,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: but problem looks fun. It looks it looks interesting. Well,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: TIA's story changes once she gets the prom Aaron makes
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the move on her. As we said earlier on out
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: of nowhere, shocking. She kisses shocking. Did not see it coming.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I wonder how in the world even happened. But it
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: is the big story of prom right. Everything else is
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: kind of just easy going other than Noah Abigail breakup. Afterwards,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Were you shocked? Shocked? Why would he wait so long?
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Why would he wait until after that Chelsea drama was over?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: The Chelsea drama that he like kind of sort of
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: resolved right, like he thought so hard in that moment
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: too to have to to be with Chelsea, and then
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: he goes in like very passionate kiss with Tia. Uh,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: seems like it came out of nowhere. And again I
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: don't think it's going anywhere. It's a little time left.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I think he really just said, like I'm gonna he
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: like he said, he said, I'm going to regret it
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: if I don't tell you this and make this move,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: And so he did it. He got out of the
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: system and we'll see how much fun there is to
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: have in the next little bit where it goes so
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: relationships are still forming even though we're late in the game,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: relationships are ending at this point, No one Abigail the relationship.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: The rest of the relationships seemed to be strong. We
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: obviously see Kenny and Maury Uh connect at a deeper level.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Thinks to the show. Um that I think the show
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: recognized they needed just a moment to to kind of
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: re evaluate where they're at, and Uh and Kenny gets
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: voted best flirt or Biggest flirt. Um. We obviously get
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the Joe and Serena becoming prom King and Queen, which
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: felt very right. Yeah, and I thought Prom was fun
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: to watch. I thought it was a good, good mix
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: up on the show to fill some space. I thought
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: it was probably fun for the cast to go and
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: just like dress up and shake it up a bit.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Um it was. It was an enjoyable see And the
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: only thing I have left to add about this episode
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: is at the roller wedding date seemed so much fun
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and it really wanted me. It really felt like I
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: wanted to take my skates out of the storage unit.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: After that, there you go, there you go. Uh, Well
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: that's the episode. Next week, we obviously have a big
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: long episode, three hours to watch. Uh, it's gonna be exciting,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be uh intense, It's gonna feel very much
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: like a soap opera, I would assume. But we're gonna
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: see more of these relationships continue, some of them in uh,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna be here to break it down with you. Well, hey,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: let's take a break here. Actually, we have a huge
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: episode coming up. Maddie pruittt on the line, the one
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: and only light of the Bachelor franchise, favorite of all,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: including Ashley and myself. Uh, she's a big deal. Maddie
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Pruitt's on the line. Guys. Hey, Maddie, So we wanted
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: to have you on because you have a new book out.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: It's well, it's coming out on October, okay, and it
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: will be on Amazon. Uh and it's called Made for
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: this Moment. So my big question for you is, how
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: is this different than all the other Bachelor books that
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: we're seeing come out? Is it even a Bachelor book?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: So I do talk about my experience, of course, but
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: really I just I mean, I talked about my life
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: as a whole, like just like my testimony and the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: things that I've walked through. But I do think that
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: for me, I because I that is a question I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: get absolute, And for me, the book is really just
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: to encourage and empower, especially like women, but really anybody,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: but especially the women. UM, just to like figure out
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: who you are and know your identity, know your word,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: know your value, UM, and know that you're made on
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: purpose and for purpose. And so my heart is really
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: just like encourage and empower and meet people where they're at,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: but help them get to where ultimately, like I believe
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: God wants them to be and what he had as
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: ultimately for them. So really that's like how I wrote
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: with it in mind. So it's not like a Bachelor
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: t book. I'm not like exposing anyone. It's like very um.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I mean I talked about my time throughout the show
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and just like how it impacts to me why I
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: went on the show, because that's like the most asked
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: question I think I get, um, But yeah, why I
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: went on the show and just kind of what led
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: to that moment of saying yes to that and then
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: kind of the experience as a whole and then since
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: then and just what I learned throughout that journey. And
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: even though like obviously most of my readers aren't going
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to be going on reality TV shows or have had
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: that experience in the past. For me, it was like okay,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: but so many people understood, Like even watching my life,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the most asked question that I got on this like
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: coming off the show was like, how were you able
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: to stay true to yourself and say true to your
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: beliefs and convictions? Like how were you able to be
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: so confident and calm and just whatever you know throughout
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the time on the show? And so really like that's
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: kind of what I wanted to speak to two people,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: um and just like meet them where they're at and
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: even though their external experiences may not be the same
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: as mine, they may not be on a reality TV show,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: they you know, are still left with all the same
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: inside feelings of just trying to figure out like who
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: am I? What am I here for? How can I
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: stay true to myself with all these pressures around me
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: in the world telling me this is who you are,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: this is your label, this is what you're supposed to do,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Like how can I silence all of that out and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: really figure out for myself like, no, this is who
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I am, this is what I believe, and no matter
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: what the environment I'm in I'm going to say true
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: to that, And so I really wrote it for those
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: people out there. So it's it's more of an empowerment
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: faith based book, but it does have my Bachelor story
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: in there. What's happened Maddie between your time on the
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: show and now that's made you go, this is what
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about, Like as as the as
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: silence has became more and as things have kind of
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: filtered through, and now you have like a perspective on
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: what that show meant to you. In the platform was handed,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: why was your response? I want to write this book
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: to empower people. So the crazy thing is I actually
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: had started writing a book before ever went on The Bachelor,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: and I graduated from Bible College, and I thought that
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: my life was heading in the trajectory of like I'm
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: gonna marry a pastor. I'm gonna be like, you know,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: just prying over people and going on mission trips. Like
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I fully thought that was the direction God had me
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: going in. And when I got a call from a
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: bachelor and felt like that was what I was supposed
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: to do, it fully didn't make sense to me. I
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: was like, this doesn't really align with like what I'm
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: going for and the trajectory of my life and kind
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: of the box that I'd put myself in and other
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: people would put me in. So I don't really understand
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: like what this has to do with anything, But I
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: knew that I was supposed to go on the show,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: and I felt led to do. I didn't know what
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: it was gonna look like. I didn't know it was
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: gonna be me and Peter at the finale trying to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: figure stuff out. Like I had no idea what it
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: was gonna look like. But I I was open, like
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I was like honestly like, yeah, if I find my
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: person great, Like I don't know, like I don't know
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: what this is gonna look like, so I'm just gonna see.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: And I really stepped into it, um open handed, but
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: knowing that it was kind of where God was leading me.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: And then when I came off the show, and I
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: had so many people asking me, like so many of
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: those questions and girls just like opening up about you know,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: through my testimony in my story, they decided to say
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: themselves for marriage and wait um and and just pursue
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: kind of like pure you know, purity until marriage, and
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I it was just so cool. I was like, wow,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: like this is so awesome. And so many people who
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: were so afraid to like talk about these things or
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to have these kind of beliefs and convictions, you know
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: now like kind of opening up and just saying that
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I was able to just encourage them. And so I
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: really just you know, I came off the show, and
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: because I felt led to do it, and because I
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: felt led to go on it, I never really like
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: made it about me, like I didn't come off the show.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, like I get to do
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: all these things like it's all about this, all about that.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: It was like, okay, so how can I use this
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: since I felt like this is where God was leading me? Now,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: how can I use this to like add value to
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: other people? Like how can I take this and pour
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: into other people? And as soon as I got off
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the show, I was getting reached out to buy a
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: lot of different conferences, student conferences, churches you know, like
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: come and speak at our our events and stuff like that.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And at first I was kind of like surprised. I
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, you want me to come speak? And
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I was like okay, like let's do it. God, like whatever,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: whatever you have and so really like my mindset was,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: whatever you have for me, Lord, like, whether it's you know,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: something everyone sees, something no one sees like. I don't
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: really care, Like, I just know that I have something
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: inside of me that I want to give to other people,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: and I know that I can help encourage and empower
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: other people to like show me what that looks like.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And so when I got off on the show, you know,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: some opportunities started opening up of just speaking and writing,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: and I really just like jumped on that and just
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: wanted to kind of think at it from the perspective of, like,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: what is our like, what is my generation really struggling with?
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: And what do I wish like someone would have told
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: me when I was you know, e one like, and
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: how can I just really encourage them and empower them
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and help them get to where they dreamed to be?
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: And so that was kind of my mindset when I
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: came off the show. I love that so much. I
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: feel like your your books going to help a lot
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: of young girls and guys out there. So you say
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: that you were led to be on the Bachelor, you
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: didn't feel led to be on Paradise. I didn't know.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I have a lad to be off here and I said, no,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. How hard did they try to get you
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: on the show? Out? They were pulling all the all
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the cards, um, and they swore to me that my
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: husband was going to be on there. I have not watched,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: so I have no idea who they were referencing. But um,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I just yeah, I didn't. I'm a person
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: of like peace, and I'm a person of like leading
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: with what I feel like. I don't know where God
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: is taking me. And when they called, I was like, listen, guys,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm so sorry. I'm not I'm
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: just not going there. Was there ever a moment like,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: was there ever a moment that you even thought about it?
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Be honest, I would say I was now, So there
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: was a one There was a one percent because they
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: were like, I swear, Maddie, your husband is there, and
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I was like hmm. And then I thought about it
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and I was like, no, you know, if he's there
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: then and he's my husband, and then he's gonna find
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: me the organic way and I'm gonna just see how
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: things play out. And I haven't watched the show at all,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: so I have no idea who, like is even on
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: it other than my friends that went on it, but yeah,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: it was. It was part no fact. Actually I don't know. Yeah,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you think, but I don't think
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: he was there. I was gonna say, I am thinking
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: about the guy he didn't go. I don't know who.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know who I would be referencing. But I
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: don't know. Again, I don't even know who I was
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: on there or something. Yeah, I don't. I don't see it.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe actually has a better radar here than
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I do. But I'm kind of like it comes to me.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I'll I'll let you know. That's good stuff. Um, Maddie,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: it's in testing. Ashley and I have mentioned on the
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: podcast before, but there's a moment I was standing up
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: in front of a church a few years ago and
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: then it hit me. I was like, you know, because
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: of the reality television show, now people want to hear
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: what I have to say, which is so weird to me.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Have you ever had that feeling? Like, have you as
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: this book comes out? Is it is it odd to
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: you that your life's experience, your life journey has led
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: to a point where now people are so interesting they're
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: gonna be so excited about this book for you and
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: to read what you have to say, and it comes
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: from this crazy show that we're laughing about right now.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I've had I would say, I have more of those
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: moments when people come up to me like crying and
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm like, no, it's just me. So um,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I would say I have more moments like that. I
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: would say as far as speaking and writing and everything,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I always knew that like that was gonna be some
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: form of my life. I didn't know to what capacity.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I had no idea that like it was going to
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: be at the level that it is to where or
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: people know my face and care what I have to say.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I think more than anything though, it's been so humbling,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: and it's just I've been so much more dependent on
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: God rather than like, oh, like look at me, here
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: what I have to say. It's like, no, I actually
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: know how broken and messed up I am, and like,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: apart from God, like I have nothing good to give.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: And so it's been a very humbling experience through all
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: of this, and like, and people keep you humbled. So
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, anytime I've I've had one moment
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: of maybe not being humble. I'm like, well you just
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: put me right back down with you. Um. So you know,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: it's been it has been very interesting in a lot
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: of ways. But I think more than anything, I don't know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: like my life verse and like kind of just how
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I live my life in general is just very much
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: like God, this life is not my own, and like
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do like use it for selfish reasons.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: So like literally, whatever you want to do with my life,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: however you want to use me and what that looks like,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: it's totally up to you. And so you know, for me,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: when I thought I was gonna live in Africa and
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: be a missionary, like I was very okay with that.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, this isn't what I expected. But God's
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: use it in ways bigger than I could have ever imagined.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: And so for that, I'm just I'm grateful and humbled.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Um and and yeah, and I just I think my
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: biggest prayer is just like everybody who picks up the book,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: like it's a transformative book, Like it's not just another
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: book where you know, they get some information or they
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: get some whatever, and and that's that. It's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: i I'm praying like I've prayed so hard over every
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: single person that's gonna be reading this book, and I'm
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: just like, I just pray that every person who picks
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  Speaker 1: it up just feels still loved and just met where
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: they're at and just know that like they were made
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: for such greatness and for such purpose. Um And so yeah,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I mean that's just my mindset kind of as I
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: go throughout my day. And I think anytime I ever
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: do make things about me like, God humbles me real quick.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: So I just try and just live with that mindset
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: of like okay, or like you know, whatever you have
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: um for me is great and it's been really cool,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: um having. I mean, like you said, like on stage speaking,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: my favorite moments are like after when I'm meeting with
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: someone one on one and I'm like pray, like I
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: get to pray with them or talk with them and
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: hear some of their story and you know, they talk
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: about like how I was able to like you know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: they gave their heart to Jesus because of seeing my faith,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: or they decided to save themselves for a marriage because
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: of seeing my values and all of these things that
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: it's like holy cow, like wow, like it's it's just
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: humbling and just like, oh my gosh, God, like only
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: you could use someone like me and something like The
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Bachelor to bring glory to like your name and to
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: like make people want to know you more. Like That's
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: that to me is just like the overwhelming sense of
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: feeling that I get from all of it. Well, Maddie,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: you were fans of you here, uh, Jesse and I
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: are fans of you in life. Um, we're glad to
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: support you on the almost famous podcast. We hope the
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: books and massive success again. It comes out October nineteenth, right,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get that wrong. I want everybody
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: to uh. And it's called Made for this Moment. You'll
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: be able to find it because Maddie's pictures on the
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: front of it, and I think you can recognize it. Maddie.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Before we go, I do want to talk about well
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: more thing that you have going on, and that is
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: your new podcast. It's Maddie Pruett, the face of sports fashion.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: How do you talk about like fashion on the podcast
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  Speaker 1: when it's not visual? Because I and I really want
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: to know this because you have the coolest style and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: like you're always just so perfect and just adorable and Okay,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: how do you talk about fashion on a podcast? So
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I have partnered with the J Boy Podcast and they
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: do so much with like sports and really covering like
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: everything that's going on in college football, college sports, and
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: so it just has been really fun because I you know,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: for me, it's like faith is such a big part
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: of my life, but I also like having my hand
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: and so many different things in sports being one of those,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Ben, yeah, like I see the basketballs above
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  Speaker 1: your head and I'm like heck yeah, I'm like, let's
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: do And that's just like just such a big part
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: of my personality, my life, my upbringing. And so for me,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: when like J Boy Podcast I reached out was like, hey,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: do you want to like come on and kind of
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: be like the face of like you know, fashion, sports
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: and all of these things, I'm like, hey, yeah, sure,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: like let's do it, um, And yeah, it's been it's
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: been really fun. And I actually so I partnered with
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: this Game dayd Tour line and they actually represent like
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: all of like collegiate sports, just colleges all over the US,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: and so we came out of like a line of
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: just like sweatshirts and hoodies and stuff like that. So
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I get to talk about that a good bit. Um.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, honestly, I'm like, gosh, my style
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: is like comfort over everything. Like I'm like, I'm usually
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: in sweats and sneakers, so I'm like, I'm very you
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: make it cool. It doesn't look like you're in sweat.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: It looks like you're in an outfit. Now. Who is
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the most stylish athlete in your opinion? Athletes? Yeah, oh gosh, um, Honestly,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I love Um. Honestly, I don't really have Excuse me,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I don't really have like a favorite. I always love
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: like looking at their stuff, like before the games and stuff.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I don't really have like a favorite athlete. I would
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: say my style icon is Haley Bieber, but I'm like,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: she don't know an athlete, but she's vibe. Yeah, I
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I love. I feel like it's
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: funny because every athlete shows up in something different and
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: so like sometimes I'm like, that's the most horrendous thing
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. And then sometimes I'm like,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: good job. But like all of them just have stylist,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: so it's just what everything their stylist puts them in.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: But I always love just seeing like the new like
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: trends and swag, and yeah, I'm just like a big
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: sweatshirt girl, and yeah, like a cool jacket. I love.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I love accessories. So I'm like, good jewelry, good jacket,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: good choose. I'm like that's a statement, like basic shirt,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: basic pants, but like go all out with the bag
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: and the jewelry and the you know, all the things
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: and the cute hair and makeup and all that all language.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: You're speaking truth ender. She's like, I can wear sweatpants. Sweatpants, Yeah,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: sneakers can look good. I'm in Yeah. Alright, Maddie, you
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: are so sweet. We love having you on. Good luck
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: with everything, and you guys can get the book again
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: October nine on Amazon. Thank you guys so much. I
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: had so much fun. See yeah, okay, guys. Well, Ben
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: had to jump off, So I am in charge of
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Bachelor headline solo this week, starting off with the fact
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: that Claire and Dale have broken up again after a
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: five month reconciliation. I am pretty sad about this. I
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: really really wanted things to work out for her. I
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: felt that the second time was truly a charm, but
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: it doesn't look like that is the case. They were
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: last spotted to oather at the Gray Goose Suite at
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the US Open on September nine, and that was our
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: last Instagram as well. UM, But then fans started to
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: speculate on September twenty they were not together when he
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: celebrated his thirty third birthday without a social media post
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: from Claire. He also attended a wedding that Claire was
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: invited to as his plus one over the UM over
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: the September nineteen weekend, and UM, she didn't go. It
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: was his friend's wedding, UM, and he wasn't talking about
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: his own personal life. She just didn't go with him.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: So that is just really really sad news to me.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I'm sure over the next couple of weeks we'll find
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: out a little bit more about what unfolded, but until then,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: that's all we got. We have UM some more details
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: from Kendall Long though, who broke her silence this week
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: about UM, her decision to go on Paradise and what
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: she was looking for from that experience. So she said
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: in the final chapter of My life, wouldn't it hurt
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: to look back and regret? A story formed from pieces
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: of others lives? Wants and desires. I think she's referring
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: to fans who thought that she should not be on
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the show, uh, and not do and not have the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: conversations that she had with Joe. There, she goes, but
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I do what feels right. I say what I need
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: to say. I don't regret a single thing. I recommend
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: you all stopped living very curiously as well. It's very freeing. Initially,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I knew that Joe was probably going to be on
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: the show because he was single and he's an active
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: part of the Bachelor world. When I went on it,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: it wasn't um. When I went on, I wasn't interested
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: in getting back in a relationship with Joe because if
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: I wanted to, I would have done that the year
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and a half that we had been broken up. Uh,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: She says, I didn't want to do it publicly in
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: front of everyone, So my goal was to just go there,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: get closure, and find love on the beach like I
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: did before. So this is very interesting, and I think
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: that we're gonna have to really get into the nitty
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: gritty on this. When Kendall does come on this podcast,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: and she's a fund of the podcast, I think she
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: will come on because I really want to know why.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: It seemed like when she got there, really she just
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: wanted to be with you. We will find out sooner
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: rather than later, I hope now. Ben earlier in the
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: show referred to the fact that we didn't get to
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: see a lot of Becca and Thomas's relationship, and he
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: did respond to a fan this week actually who said
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: it was sad that Bachelor in Paradise hasn't shown enough
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: of this relationship. He said, some of our most beautiful
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: moments were made with the little things, and reliving those
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: will always be enough for me. Ben also said earlier
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: in the podcast that there was photos of them possibly
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: together that show up this week, so maybe they are
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: still having a little something something because this quote saying
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: that like those memories will be enough for him kind
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: of sounds like their memories that aren't over. But you know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm looking into things too much. Then we have
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: another headline from a current Bachelor cast member, Marissa Gunn,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: who says that she and Christian built a fast connection
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: by going to the Boom Boom Room. She said, we
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: got back to the beach and we wanted to continue
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: our conversation. So it's two consenting adults. We went into
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: the Boom Boom room together, which is fine. She said
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: that the conversations that came from that night in an
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: air conditioned room really strengthened their relationship. It was nice,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: um because it allowed us more time together too, and
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: we were able to build a connection fast. And our
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: last headline is Matt James celebrates Rachael Kirkconnell as she
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: turned twenty at five. He says on Instagram, Happy birthday
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: to my emergency contact. He posted a very sweet carousel
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: of photos of the two of them together since they
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: met in late on The Bachelor, and he said, be strong,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: be courageous, and do not be afraid or terrified because
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: of them. For the Lord, your God goes with you.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: He will never leave you nor forsake you. And then
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: he followed it by saying, happy birthday to my emergency contact.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I love you so sweet. Alright, guys, well that is
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the headlines for this week. We will be back next week.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: And I realized there was something huge we didn't talk about,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: and that was the scenes from the next episode, because
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: we see Kendall come back right as it looks like
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Joe is meeting Serena at the engagement altar. My best
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: guess is that she's going to be sort of kind
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: of giving him the blessing to go forward. I don't
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: know that he's going to appreciate getting a blessing from Kendall,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: but maybe this is like her real sincere closure moment.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: So we'll have to stay tuned and we'll have the
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: answers to all of these speculations next week after a
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: three hour Bachelor in Paradise finale. I love you guys
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: so much. Thank you for always being here for us.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: It means the world. And signing off solo, I've been
• 44:27
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