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Dave Sinykin previews Bears/Packers, Dalton Wasserman on all the football & Football Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Now what are you playing this song for?
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  Or we got to get rid of get set of kid ready for it.
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  He's going to be here in the bunch come Saturday night.
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  Come on, this is a great song. Miller and Conkin, our number 2
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  Iowa Sports Radio Network time to do preview the Packers and
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  the Bears. Well, just to let you know,
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  we're going to do our picks coming up here and the green bed
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  Packers are my best bet of the weekend.
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  Great. I know what I Dave Sinican joins
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  his own coverage.com. Dave, I haven't picked the
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  Packers all year long. I don't know if that's good or
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  bad, but I'm all over him on Saturday night.
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  Dave Sinican, good to talk to you.
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  How are you? I'm glad to hear it, good to
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  talk to you too. And if you guys need a better
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  song I can send you the clip for the the song we play every Bears
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  game on Packer preview called The Bears.
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  Still sucked by the happy Schnapps combo.
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  It's a classic, so I'll go get that in your hand.
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  Yeah, that's awesome. We'll play that one.
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  Good stuff. Well, look, all kidding aside,
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  we've seen this game a couple of times.
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  Obviously this year before I didn't see the onside kick
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  coming. It's such a coin flip game.
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  Jordan Love is back, obviously, which is huge.
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  But I want to start with Josh Jacobs and there's no
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  designation beside his name. And I I can't believe at this
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  point of the year he's anywhere close to being 100%.
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  But if he is, boy, that's that's certainly a positive in Green
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  Bay's direction. What can you tell us about
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  Jacobs? He did say this morning that
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  he's as healthy as he's been in the last six weeks.
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  So you're right, he's not as healthy as he was in September,
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  but he's definitely feeling better than he has probably
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  since Thanksgiving and that's huge.
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  The Green Bay Packers offense has struggled to run the
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  football this year in part because Jacobs hasn't stayed
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  healthy. They had some issues up front as
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  well. The bigger news is that Zach
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  Tom, the right tackle, is expected back.
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  He did. He did stay away today.
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  They said they gave him the day off.
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  He was at practice yesterday. All the metrics, blocking, pass
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  blocking go up exponentially when Zach timeout is out there.
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  He's the best the lineman Green Bay has.
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  So having him back at even 80% will go a long way in Josh
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  Jacobs production. And Jordan loves production as
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  well. You speak of Jordan Love.
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  It's been really, really good at times, like on the precipice of
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  maybe being that elite level quarterback we kind of been
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  waiting for and then as soon as it feels like we get to that
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  level, we're ready to talk about it.
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  What was it, the Pittsburgh game that was unbelievable?
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  I think it. Was yes, yeah, that was one of
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  them. Throw it off the back foot and
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  just the arm talent and all the things, but it just doesn't
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  happen week in and week out. Is that unfair to him, or do you
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  feel like Jordan Love has reached that elite level?
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  Yeah, I'm, I'm of the opinion that he has reached that elite
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  level. And if you look at all the
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  analytics, it bears that out. There was a stat that I saw
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  yesterday, quarterbacks, EPA per play.
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  He's number two behind Drake Bay and the other three guys.
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  It's like, you know, Stafford and Purdy, you know, he's in
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  that, that level where you remember the things that make
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  you go, man, why do you throw that?
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  But the body of work suggests that he is in that top lead.
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  And it's something I fight up here in the Twin Cities with
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  Paul Allen and, and all the Vikings fans that that just
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  refuse to believe that Green Bay has a guy that could be
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  considered. It's not a top five, certainly a
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  top ten quarterback. But you know, facts are he's one
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  and two in the postseason, got the big win in Dallas a couple
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  years ago and then on the two losses has thrown a total of 5
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  interceptions. So he has got to change that
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  narrative in the postseason. We all know that if he turns the
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  ball over on Saturday night, there's a good chance Chicago
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  wins. That is how they live.
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  Overall, Green Bay is one of the stingiest team and then giving
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  the ball away this season, so that has not been their MO.
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  We all know weather is going to play a factor, so if if he's
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  sloppy with the ball on Saturday night, then yes, the Bears will
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  have a really good chance. What do we make of the of the
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  losing streak? I mean, I go back to the Denver
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  game and the first half, I thought Green Bay was going to
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  run him off the field. I really and truly did.
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  And Denver found a way to win the game.
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  Then they lose in overtime on sidekick to get it to overtime
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  at Soldier Field before losing to Baltimore.
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  And then last week, just draw a line right through.
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  I mean, clean tune, please. And that that clearly meant
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  nothing. But what what does that mean to
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  you, Dave, that they're coming into the playoffs because you
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  keep your honest as a team that's lost four straight, don't
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  like the way they're going right now.
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  What do you make of that? Yeah, I mean, I think they had
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  one really bad game and that's the Baltimore game I can't
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  really wrap my head around, but you're right.
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  I mean, they had 250 yards of offense in Denver in the first
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  half and you know, they lost Tom and Watson in that first half
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  and the offense stalled and then Micah goes out the second-half
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  and you know, the Chicago game as we know, they held the Bears
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  to what, 9 points at the 2 minute warning.
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  So the defense had been really solid.
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  The Baltimore game, I just don't know if it was.
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  We wrapped up a playoff spot on Christmas and two days later we
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  just couldn't get ramped up. I make no excuses.
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  It was a terrible defensive performance.
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  The offense was great with Malik Willis, obviously, and if you
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  throw it out so I don't, I don't look at it like a four-game
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  losing streak. I look at it like a really bad
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  game against the Raven, which makes you wonder about the run
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  defense because obviously that's going to be Chicago's plan is to
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  see if they can test that run defense.
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  But no, you're right. It's unusual to go in on a
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  four-game losing streak. It rarely happens.
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  I think Pittsburgh last year was the first one in a long time.
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  I don't look at it that way. I think the fact that Green Bay
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  rested their guys and got healthy, they lost six guys to
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  IR after the on the Ravens game. After that game, six guys were
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  placed on IR. They have 15 guys on IR coming
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  out of that game for the season. So they've had a lot of rest.
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  Bears obviously played a hard game and now on a short week, 6
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  days, I do think that matters this time of year.
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  And Ben Johnson to be all cute. We play our guys, we play our
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  starters. You know, you weren't locked
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  into a 7 feet or a two seed. You, you had a chance to do
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  something Philadelphia, you know, they they've made the idea
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  to to rest their guys and didn't care about two or three, likely
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  because they probably figured the two seed wasn't going to
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  survive this weekend. That's my own opinion, but I
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  think it's funny that Ben Johnson deals the need to take
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  shots at at the Packers whenever he gets a chance.
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  And we'll see which team comes out on tops Saturday.
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  What a goal defensively and what the game plan is going to be
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  here for Jeff Haffley. As we know, Caleb Williams
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  outside the pocket is incredibly dangerous.
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  I'm going back to that game a couple weeks ago in Week 16,
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  they blitzed Caleb Williams on 40% of his drop backs.
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  He went 7 to 13145 yards, 2 touchdowns, no picks though
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  against the blitz. Is that going to still be the
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  package knowing with how Parsons out there you need to find a
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  different way obviously to generate a pass rush.
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  Then when you can just let him pin his ears back, what do you
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  think the game plan is going to be from halfly in that defensive
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  staff? Yeah, that's a great question
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  and I don't know the answer for sure.
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  My hunch is that maybe they've tried to let lift a little bit
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  less and see if they can get home with Lucas Van Ness, who
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  was the one defensive guy who graded out really well in that
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  Ravens game. Kingsley, I think bar he's been
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  very good. They like what they saw from
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  Baron Sorel against the Vikings last week.
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  So I think maybe initially they may try to play a little more
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  straight up because there are issues at cornerback.
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  They lost two guys to IR week 17.
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  That's why they signed Trayvon Diggs.
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  He's probably going to start in this game opposite because you
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  shot Nixon because they just realized carrying to Valentine
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  has an aversion to tackling. You know, he's a decent cover
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  guy. He's a problem.
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  And against the Bears, you need your secondary to to help him
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  run support. So I think Dicks is going to get
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  a major shot, but they're they're hurting a cornerback.
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  And so if they if they're blitzing and they're putting
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  those cornerbacks on an island a little bit, I pick it gives
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  Caleb a chance. But again, if it's a really
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  windy night, as I've heard it might be where maybe Williams
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  throwing deep isn't as effect, same thing with Love.
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  Then then maybe he does revert to blitzing.
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  But I think it's a really interesting thing to watch.
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  My hunch is he tries to play straight up knowing that, you
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  know, we got to protect the outsides and not let Caleb
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  Williams attack this team with his legs because that's going to
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  be a big weapon on Saturday. I'm curious to see what some of
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  these younger pass rushers getting an opportunity do with
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  their stance against a Bears team on Saturday.
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  Is Matt Lafleur? If it doesn't go the the Packers
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  way on on Saturday night, might this be the at the end of the
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  Lafleur era in Green Bay? Yeah, it's a popular question.
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  I'd be very, very surprised. I think the only way it is is if
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  it's an absolute blowout, just a no show effort by Green Bay,
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  which I do not expect. Who's out there?
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  People have asked me, what about John Harbaugh?
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  Is he a huge step up from Matt Lafleur, who's, you know, taking
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  this offense over the years? I mean, he's been in the
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  playoffs the last three seasons. Yes.
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  There's a seventh seed every year you'd like to get division
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  title. It's been a while, but I I'd be
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  surprised if you read what that policy the new president said
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  this week. It kind of, I think stamps out
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  some of those rumors that get populated on the Internet.
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  He sounds like a guy who's very happy with the coach and the GM
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  and and the performance of this team.
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  Despite the challenges of injuries and some scheduling
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  things, he seems to be pretty much in line with what he's got.
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  They're both due for new deals. He has said he's not going to
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  want lame duck guys. So I think both guys get signed
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  to new deals. The big thing for me is will
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  they play pay Matt Lafleur He's he's not need, you know, at a
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  level that a lot of these coaches are being paid and are
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  the Packers willing to pay him in that stratosphere that that
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  maybe he thinks he can get, if not in Green Bay, somewhere
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  else? So it's not a zero chance, but
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  I'd be really surprised if Matt Lafleur is not given a new deal
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  after the season. Looks like a real possibility as
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  we get closer and closer to this one and it's going to be a snow
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  game. And if that is the case, well,
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  just the sights of it. Feels like that's the way a
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  Packers Bears playoff game absolutely should be.
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  With flurries flying. Do you see an advantage one way
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  or the other though? I see in the final practice
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  today the Packers are going to be practicing Italy Ambo field,
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  practicing outdoors for this one advantage one way or the other.
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  I don't know. I don't think so.
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  I guess I'm curious how Caleb handles that.
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  You know, I don't know how many cold, snowy games he's played in
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  his career, but I don't see that as a huge advantage one way or
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  the other. I think both teams do want to
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  run the football and Chicago's been really good at it.
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  And that's certainly in a snowy night, you want to be able to
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  run the football. And obviously turnovers, you
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  know, that's what the Bears have lived off of.
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  And on weird conditions, maybe you're more apt to see some
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  balls slipping around. But no, I don't see that as a
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  major your advantage one way or the other unless it's really
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  windy. To me, the wind more than the
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  snow is an issue with Caleb trying to throw the ball down
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  field. I just don't know how effective
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  he would be and love as well. I mean, Green Bay wants to get
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  the ball down field too. I I just think there are
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  opportunities for Green Bay's offense to get some explosives
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  with Christian Watson now playing in the post season after
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  not being able to do that last year.
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  I think he'll be a problem for the bears defense.
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  I I think Green Bay can score on this team and if it's really
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  windy and snowy and cold, that might tamp that down a little
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  bit and keep the Bears in the game.
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  Yeah, I think Watson's clearly going to be a big factor.
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  Last thing we'd be remiss if we didn't look to tomorrow night.
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  Is your alma mater still playing?
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  It's hard to believe, right? It truly is.
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  I mean, here's Indiana and and here they are the undefeated
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  team. They're favored in the semi
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  final, that game taking place in Atlanta over Oregon.
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  We saw the games during the regular season.
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  So give us your thoughts, Dave, on on what it means to be a
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  Hoosier and a football fan at this point and playing for an
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  opportunity to play for a national championship in
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  football, not in basketball, in football.
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  What is, what does it mean, and how do you see the game
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  tomorrow? Yeah, to think that Indiana is
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  widely considered the best team left in the playoffs and the
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  favorite to win the championship, It is hard to wrap
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  my head around that. You know, I got two kids in
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  Indiana. And I always said I hope
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  basketball can resurrect itself when you're there so you can see
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  what it's like to be at IU. Never in my wildest dreams that
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  I think they'd be experiencing this.
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  And for me as a fan to get Indiana Friday night, Green Day,
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  Saturday night, it's almost too much.
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  It's just almost. I can't deal with it.
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  But no, I, I'm so excited for the fans for this program and to
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  see what Indiana does against Oregon in a game that, you know,
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  I, I think Oregon's obviously learned some things, but but
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  they're not the same team. They've lost their best running
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  back. They've lost a couple guys in
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  their secondary. I just feel like Indiana's sort
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  of a runaway train right now. I don't, I think that the Peach
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  Bowl is going to be that, that stadium Atlanta, I've heard
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  expected to be 75 to 80% Indiana fans.
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  It's a 7 hour drive from Bloomington, obviously a much
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  bigger flight from from Oregon to get down there.
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  I just don't think there are any weaknesses.
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  They can run the ball better than Oregon.
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  They can stop the run. Their defense is better than
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  Oregon. They don't have the ## talent as
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  far as the evaluators go, certainly with the Oregon
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  recruits. But how do you bet against what
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  Indiana is doing right now? I don't like playing a team
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  twice. I think that gives Oregon a bit
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  of an advantage. But I just think first thing
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  that he has shown that he knows how to game plan and
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  coordinators know how to game plan.
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  And I'll be really surprised if Indiana doesn't step up and hand
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  org and by more than the 3 1/2 that they're favoured by.
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  Good stuff. Dave, sinicanzonecoverage.com
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  Dave, we will run you down in advance of the Seattle
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  divisional game next week. I'm looking over at Condon.
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  Didn't even budget, but will you go?
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  Have you have you looked at plane, plane fare from Miami?
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  It's from Minneapolis to Miami. If indeed Indiana does get
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  there, and they're favoured to do so, we go to the national
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  championship. There's a non zero chance
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  there's actually some pretty cheap flights on some country to
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  Miami. I have a good friend, there's a
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  hurricane grad. She said that my house is your
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  house. Teams are playing.
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  We're going. So yeah, I think I'll, I'll put
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  that as a very strong possibility.
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  It's hard for me to think I can pass that up.
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  Indiana, the national championship game.
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  So yeah, I, I put it about 5050 at this point, but I, I'm not
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  going to count my, you know, well, let's get past this game
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  and then we'll really dive into. Good stuff.
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  Enjoy Friday, enjoy Saturday, and we'll talk to you next next
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  week. Thank you, Dave
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  zenikenzonecoverage.com So Saturday morning, what are you
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  going to do? Because Saturday's normally not,
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  you know, focused on football. That's your Sunday show.
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  But we've switched things up on cafe and this week.
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  Well, Saturday In the Zone with me and Trent Tucker will be our
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  usual show. We'll certainly pay attention to
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  the game, but I am doing a Packer preview podcast with my
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  partner, Iowa native Brent Blakemore, Des Moines guy that
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  will be available on the Yep on the I Heart app.
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  Tomorrow morning when it'll be live, probably around 10:00,
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  we're going to do a Packer preview podcast.
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  And then Sunday morning on my show, we'll be the Packer
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  review, looking back at the game and looking ahead to Seattle and
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  the conversation with you guys next week.
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  He's a SE boat grad. His mom, Mary, worked here.
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  She's a good lady. Yes, we did.
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  I know her well. Yeah, she's great.
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  Say hi to Brake for us, Brett rather and we will talk to you
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  next week. Enjoy the games.
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  Thanks pal. Yeah, you guys too.
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  See ya. Yep, good to talk to you, Dave.
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  Sinicanzonecoverage.com and weekends KFAN up in the Twin
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  Cities. I got a theory I want to float
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  by you. On this game Saturday.
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  Nope. Past that news that we didn't
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  get to in the first segment. Figured this would be a good
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  spot to bring it up as we saw the goober on the sidelines,
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  Mike McDaniel, get fired by the Dolphins.
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  But I loved him and I loved Hard Knocks with him.
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  And he's weird and he's different and he sure is, but he
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  knows offensive football. He sure does.
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  I had this floated to me last week and at the time it didn't
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  look like maybe this was going to happen, but here we are.
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  Matt. Maggie might be getting a job.
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  Where? Somewhere.
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  OK, doesn't matter where. That's not part of the theory,
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  OK? He moves on.
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  He's going to need an OC. Kansas City Chiefs need an
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  offensive coordinator. There has been a lot of
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  rumblings, a lot of Chiefs fans that want to see a shake up.
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  They want to see something different.
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  They want to see Andy Reid maybe get out of his comfort zone.
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  I don't think it would happen, but if it did, those two
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  together, 2 great offensive minds.
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  What about Kingsbury's relationship with Mahomes
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  though? Leave that one aside.
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  I just want to do the because imagining when he got there to
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  Miami, well, you saw it against your Broncos when they put 70 on
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  them. I did.
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  Jesus, what an awful day that was.
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  I just. I think it would be incredibly
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  fun. I mean, you talk about good.
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  For So, will Naggy call the plays his next stop, do you
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  think? Probably.
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  Probably so, yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's becoming
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  more and more the. Point it is.
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  Yeah, fair. I would, I would love to see
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  that just for the entertainment value, an old stodgy Andy Reid,
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  Mike McDaniel and just two contrasting styles of the way
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  they look and the way they are. And then I think what they could
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  also do together with those two great offensive lines, I would
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  love to see it. I think the likelihood is
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  incredibly small now as a Bronco fan, you hear that.
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  And I don't want that. You don't want that.
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  I want him in Washington to coach Daniels.
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  Get him away for a. Board out of the AFC,
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  absolutely. There's some really good
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  offensive minds that are, I think, I mean, who knows if
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  they're going to find work, but they're going to have
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  opportunities, one would assume. And if he got a young
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  quarterback, no offense to defensive coaches, don't you
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  want to like a McDaniel? Yes.
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  Something like that right like a Kingsbury someone to tutor these
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  young guys. All right, 120 more conversation
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  with regarding the NFL football related because Pro Football
• 17:39
  focus also heavy to the college game.
• 17:41
  Don Wasserman joins us next Pro Football Focus, Miller and
• 17:44
  Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 17:56
  I'm Nori Condon, welcome back coming up on 1:30 on the Iowa
• 17:59
  Sports Radio Network. Wherever you are listening in
• 18:02
  the state of Iowa, we're grateful that you are anywhere
• 18:05
  on the iheart app, of course, Des Moines sports station, the
• 18:08
  flagship one O 6.3 KXNO. Well, we're about to embark on a
• 18:12
  5 day football feast. Sadly, there won't be much
• 18:16
  feasting after. Don't worry about the negative,
• 18:18
  just. I'm going to enjoy the hell out
• 18:20
  of absolutely. So is Dalton Wasserman I'm
• 18:23
  guessing in the whole team over there. profootballfocus.com
• 18:26
  Dalton, good to talk to you. Trenton Cannon, Des Moines love
• 18:29
  to appreciate you finding time for us as you do.
• 18:32
  This is going to be just crazy on top of a nuts.
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  The transfer portal has been. I know it's kept you busy.
• 18:37
  I want to go back to Monday night in the FCS championship
• 18:41
  game and one of the things Trent and I started our show with on
• 18:44
  Tuesdays, A, how great the game was, but B, were some of these
• 18:47
  players that we really don't watch during the season.
• 18:50
  Oh my God, they're really good. Where are they going to be
• 18:53
  playing next year? And it sounds like some of those
• 18:55
  guys from certainly from Illinois State and Montana
• 18:58
  State, both are going to have some opportunities to play in
• 19:01
  Power 4 conferences. Yeah, no, absolutely.
• 19:04
  I think, I think that's really the fun of watching a fantastic
• 19:07
  game like that between 2 great teams.
• 19:08
  And you mentioned Illinois State, I know they lost the
• 19:10
  game, but what a run they had through the tournament, right?
• 19:12
  Beaten North Dakota State and several other ranked teams along
• 19:15
  the way. Really one of the best
• 19:16
  Cinderella stories we've seen at the FCS level.
• 19:19
  But that's part of the fun now is you get FCS and even Group of
• 19:22
  Five players that make the jump to the Power 4 into these big
• 19:25
  time programs and then they succeed, right?
• 19:27
  We're seeing it even in the College Football Playoff right
• 19:29
  now with Trinidad Chambliss coming up from winning Division
• 19:32
  Two national championship last year.
• 19:34
  Look, these guys are real talented and for, you know, some
• 19:36
  of them just don't get the prime opportunities early in the
• 19:39
  career that they think they're going to get.
• 19:41
  But they go out there and earn a man and it's a lot of fun.
• 19:43
  I think it is a lot of fun with the portal for those guys to get
• 19:46
  that opportunity. Speaking of that, you know, as
• 19:48
  we go through and we see these portal guys, Iowa State's
• 19:51
  obviously rebuilding completely, their roster, Iowa's filled in a
• 19:54
  couple of gaps out there. Yeah, we see these guys come
• 19:56
  from the FCS ranks and we see those numbers from Pro Football.
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  Focus a lot of times on what you guys do.
• 20:02
  Over there at PFF, when it comes to grading at the FCS level, is
• 20:06
  there anything extra that we should know Just looking at
• 20:09
  those raw numbers seeing all right, this is what his past
• 20:11
  block grade is coming from the FCS up to FBS, anything that you
• 20:15
  read into those numbers making the jump up?
• 20:18
  I think to me it's just a different level of evaluation,
• 20:21
  right? Because I won't tell, I won't
• 20:22
  sit here and tell you that I personally break down the tape
• 20:24
  on every single guy that goes into the portal from the SDS
• 20:27
  because there's quite a lot of them.
• 20:28
  But I think the one thing is that I, when I, when I look at a
• 20:31
  guy from the FCS, I want to see somebody who really dominates at
• 20:35
  that level, right? You talk about with our grades
• 20:37
  being on that zero to 100 scale. I was just talking to somebody
• 20:40
  else about this. When they get start getting into
• 20:42
  the mid upper 80s or up in the 90s and you're talking about
• 20:44
  dominating at that level week in and week out, then you really
• 20:47
  start to talk about guys who who can come up and have the
• 20:50
  potential to be impact players, right?
• 20:52
  Our highest graded pass rusher in the SBS, Lamont Lester from
• 20:55
  Monmouth, he just transferred to Colorado and I was watching his
• 20:58
  tape. I was like, you know what, he
• 21:00
  might be able to come up and do some things for this team,
• 21:02
  right? So that's just what you want to
• 21:04
  see at that level is just a bit of a different level of
• 21:06
  dominance than say, you know, a guy grading at an average level,
• 21:10
  guy who's an average starter at say in the Power 4 moving to
• 21:13
  another Power 4 school. Before we get into the to the
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  NFL and what lies ahead and wild Card weekend, let's talk about
• 21:18
  the these two semifinals tonight, old miss and Miami and
• 21:21
  then the Big 10 rematch tomorrow night.
• 21:23
  Is there is are there one of the one of those two games move your
• 21:27
  needle more than the other or you can't wait for them both?
• 21:29
  And do you have an opinion on either one of them more so than
• 21:32
  the other? I think they're both outstanding
• 21:35
  football games. You start with tonight.
• 21:37
  Honestly, I think it's it's a coin flip.
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  I I could not even tell you. I mean, I picked Ole Miss
• 21:41
  officially on our show to win the game.
• 21:43
  But I'll be honest with you, I have no idea who's going to win
• 21:45
  tonight because you have two contrasting styles, the
• 21:47
  physicality, the trench play of Miami and the way they've been
• 21:51
  getting it done with just their physical nature of style of
• 21:54
  play. And then you've got Ole Miss
• 21:56
  with the red hot quarterback, the wide open style and they're
• 21:58
  one of the fastest tempo teams in the country.
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  I think it's something Miami hasn't seen yet this year.
• 22:03
  So it's a lot of fun with and then Indiana or Oregon, man,
• 22:06
  they're just two great football teams.
• 22:07
  The fact that we get maybe the 1st 2 picks in the draft
• 22:10
  potentially playing against each other, I do learn more towards
• 22:13
  Indiana. I think they're just a little
• 22:14
  more well-rounded. I do think they're the best team
• 22:16
  in the country. But you got 2 great football
• 22:18
  games we're going to watch over the next two nights.
• 22:20
  Speaking of that match up down in Atlanta, do you believe in
• 22:23
  the rematch theory, just getting that second shot against the
• 22:25
  team and how the team the lost we saw in the Little Miss
• 22:28
  Georgia game, maybe that will help close the gap a little bit
• 22:31
  for Oregon. I do think it's entirely
• 22:34
  possible, but at the end of the day you have to go out there and
• 22:36
  execute, right? And I think the bigger problem
• 22:38
  for me for Oregon is that was the one game this year against
• 22:41
  Indiana where their opponent was the more physical team.
• 22:44
  Oregon is also a great trench team with one of the best
• 22:47
  offensive and defensive lines in the country.
• 22:49
  But Indiana was the one team that dominated him in the
• 22:51
  trenches and really got consistent pressure on Dante
• 22:54
  Moore. If they do that again and
• 22:55
  Indiana's the more physically dominant team, then they'll win
• 22:58
  again, despite any other adjustments that Oregon could
• 23:01
  make. Dalton Wasserman joining us
• 23:03
  profootballfocus.com Dalton, I'm guessing around the around the
• 23:07
  water cooler at PFF or wherever you guys you're when it comes to
• 23:12
  the NFL, one of the takeaways is just how wide open I truly is in
• 23:17
  my opinion. Do you guys see it that way or
• 23:20
  is there one of the teams? Maybe they're maybe the one of
• 23:23
  the one seeds. Maybe it's not that you guys
• 23:26
  think, You know, if they put it all together, this team deserves
• 23:29
  to be the the rightful favorite to win the Super Bowl.
• 23:32
  Or is it truly wide open? It's as wide open a year as as I
• 23:37
  can remember seeing, right? And I mean, I think you're
• 23:39
  talking about a year where you don't have a Tom Brady who's
• 23:43
  always there or a Peyton Manning or a Patrick Mahomes, obviously,
• 23:46
  who's always who's always in that mix, right?
• 23:48
  It's just so wide open. I do like the LA Rams a lot, but
• 23:52
  they're the five seed. They might have to go out there
• 23:54
  and play 3 Rd. games, right? I do like the Seattle Seahawks a
• 23:57
  lot, you know, but we got to see if Sam Darnold can do it through
• 24:00
  a whole postseason run, right? And the AFC, I'll tell you right
• 24:03
  now, the AFC side, I have no idea.
• 24:05
  I really, I really at this point, I think you've got 7
• 24:08
  evenly matched teams and any one of them could beat any of the
• 24:11
  others on any given day. That includes even the three
• 24:13
  games this weekend. I think the AFC especially is as
• 24:16
  wide open as we've ever seen it. Absolutely wild individual
• 24:20
  games. We're going to open up with
• 24:21
  Carolina as we'll get one of the South teams.
• 24:23
  Of course, in that opening window on Saturday, they beat
• 24:26
  the Rams, their double digit underdog against the Rams.
• 24:29
  Was it that fluky? Or does Carolina maybe not even
• 24:32
  to win the game? Do you believe they can hang
• 24:34
  around at minimum? They can hang around if they can
• 24:37
  control the pace and run the football better than they had
• 24:40
  the last couple weeks. But I do think the Rams are
• 24:42
  going to take care of business. I get why they're a heavy
• 24:45
  favorite here and their offense, outside of the three turnovers
• 24:48
  they had in the first game, their offense played an
• 24:49
  excellent game and the Panthers, especially on the ground, didn't
• 24:52
  have a whole lot of resistance, right.
• 24:53
  So the for the Panthers, it's going to be the same formula.
• 24:56
  Try to control the pace. You have to force a couple of
• 24:58
  turnovers. They will not win this game
• 25:00
  without forcing at least 2 turnovers.
• 25:02
  And then Bryce Young's got to make some special throws like he
• 25:04
  did the first time around. If they're going to hang around
• 25:06
  of. Course, here in the state of
• 25:07
  Iowa, the one that moves the needle most will be Packers and
• 25:10
  Bears on Saturday night. It truly to me is a coin flip
• 25:13
  game. Did you find an edge in this
• 25:15
  game, Dalton? No, I think it's extremely even.
• 25:18
  I think you're going to get another game down to the wire,
• 25:20
  maybe a last second field goal, something like that.
• 25:22
  I think it's maybe the most unpredictable game of the
• 25:25
  weekend because of the nature of these two teams, how much even
• 25:28
  how evenly matched the first two games were.
• 25:29
  The one thing I'm looking for from the Bears, and I know
• 25:32
  they've been known this year for all their fourth quarter
• 25:34
  comebacks and late wins and dramatic fashion and all of
• 25:37
  that, but they need to get off to a better start.
• 25:39
  I believe the first half of the two games combined these two
• 25:42
  have played, the Bears have been outscored 20 to 3.
• 25:44
  It is hard over and over to come back against good football
• 25:47
  teams, right? So you don't want to fall
• 25:49
  behind. You're in your home stadium,
• 25:50
  establish the run game. That's what I'm looking for.
• 25:52
  Can the Bears get off to a better start to maybe avoid some
• 25:55
  of those late game dramatics? Let's go to Sunday.
• 25:59
  Bills, Jags, it's Josh Allen. I fell into this trap last year
• 26:03
  in the Super Bowl. Just Patrick Gohomes.
• 26:05
  I don't care about the rest of it.
• 26:06
  I don't care about the Eagles, just Patrick Gohomes.
• 26:08
  Patrick Gohomes are people fall into the same trap here, Josh
• 26:11
  Allen, Josh Allen, Josh Allen. And not looking at the totality
• 26:14
  of how good this Jacksonville team has been the last two
• 26:16
  months. I think it's possible and that's
• 26:19
  why this is my favorite game of the week.
• 26:21
  Josh Allen. Josh Allen is the supernova and
• 26:24
  he can overcome anything and maybe he will do it.
• 26:26
  But that Jacksonville team is really good.
• 26:28
  And I'll tell you right now, Trevor Lawrence, over the last
• 26:30
  five or six weeks, he is the hottest quarterback in football.
• 26:33
  He's figured it out with Parker Washington and that receiving
• 26:36
  core. The run game has been a bit
• 26:38
  inconsistent, but we know the Bills run defense is kind of
• 26:41
  weak as well. And I'll tell you what,
• 26:42
  Jacksonville's defense does not get enough credit for how good
• 26:45
  it is. It is built a lot like Seattle
• 26:47
  and they just haven't gotten the national attention.
• 26:49
  That is a well-rounded football team that absolutely can beat
• 26:53
  Buffalo, and I actually picked them to do it.
• 26:55
  Yeah, I'm with you. Let's go to the nightcap because
• 26:57
  this Chargers team, they have so much going for them, but their
• 27:00
  offensive line is not one of those things.
• 27:03
  Obviously they Justin Herbert, I think he's elite quarterback.
• 27:07
  The playoff record not notwithstanding, do you give the
• 27:10
  Chargers a chance to go across the country and beat the
• 27:12
  Patriots knowing the fact that the Chargers have a huge
• 27:16
  handicap with that that offensive line?
• 27:20
  I think they absolutely have a chance.
• 27:21
  I think actually this is one of the better matchups that the
• 27:24
  Chargers could have gotten. I know it's on the road.
• 27:25
  I know it's against an MVP candidate in Drake May, but I
• 27:28
  think there's two reasons they can hang in this game.
• 27:30
  One, their defense. The Chargers defense does so
• 27:34
  well to prevent deep balls in big home run shots.
• 27:37
  You know, outside of the first quarter of that Houston game a
• 27:39
  few weeks ago, they do such a great job with Derwin James and
• 27:42
  that secondary that I think they're really going to make
• 27:44
  Drake may work to score points. And then on the other side, the
• 27:47
  Patriots pass rush is not that great and the front sevens a
• 27:50
  little bit banged up. And I think if the Chargers can
• 27:52
  find any sort of run game on the outside, I think of Marion
• 27:55
  Hampton plays a big factor in the rookie running back for the
• 27:58
  Chargers. If he can make a few, if he can
• 28:00
  pop off a few big runs on the outside, I think the Chargers
• 28:03
  really do have a shot to win this game because Hubbard, yes,
• 28:05
  he's been under pressure all year, but he's been dealing with
• 28:07
  it well. And this New England defense
• 28:09
  Willow worry about some of the injuries they have.
• 28:11
  We look at the match up on Monday night.
• 28:14
  You have the Steelers obviously that have this ridiculous Monday
• 28:18
  night streak that dates back to 1992.
• 28:21
  That doesn't matter for this game yet.
• 28:24
  They're just something odd about this team.
• 28:26
  They'll get DK Metcalf back. They'll have an opportunity,
• 28:29
  Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs trying to get his 12th career
• 28:32
  playoff victory, but against this Texans defense.
• 28:35
  I mentioned the numbers and I saw this from DVOA.
• 28:37
  Are your numbers on the Texans at Pro Football Focus?
• 28:40
  Have they taken a step back here recently?
• 28:44
  Defensively, not much really. I know they played kind of a
• 28:47
  lackluster by their standards game, you know, against the
• 28:50
  Colts, but I also think they were, I think they were playing
• 28:52
  at about 80%, you know, effort level in that game, knowing that
• 28:55
  Jacksonville and what they were doing to Tennessee and knowing
• 28:58
  the division title wasn't on the line.
• 29:00
  No, their defense is outstanding and offensively it is a bit up
• 29:03
  and down because their offensive line is still below average or a
• 29:06
  little better than we expected them to be, but still not a
• 29:09
  great unit. That's going to be the big key,
• 29:11
  and I think that's a big key for both teams in this game, is
• 29:13
  which offensive line can hold up enough against two of the elite
• 29:17
  pass rushes in the league, right?
• 29:18
  And which quarterback can handle that pressure better?
• 29:20
  Whether it's Aaron Rodgers or CJ Stroud, I think that really
• 29:23
  decides this game. And finally, Brock Purdy in the
• 29:26
  San Francisco 49ers, a rematch of what the NFC title gave two
• 29:29
  years ago or three, whatever it was pretty got hurt in that
• 29:32
  game. Obviously the Eagles offense is
• 29:34
  a huge question mark. Defence looks elite, might be
• 29:37
  better than last year. Your thoughts on the final game?
• 29:39
  Well, it's actually middle of the afternoon Sunday, but the
• 29:42
  final game we'll get to. To me, this game's all about
• 29:46
  Philly. The spotlight is on their
• 29:47
  offense. It's on Nick Siriani, it's on
• 29:49
  Kevin Pitullo, their offensive coordinator line up, run the
• 29:52
  football. Saquon Barkley should get 30
• 29:54
  plus carries in this game. The 49ers defensive line is the
• 29:57
  weakest part of their team. And we know this Eagles team,
• 30:00
  Howie Roseman built it through the trenches.
• 30:02
  They built it through the run game and then they asked Jalen
• 30:04
  Hurts to be the complimentary piece.
• 30:05
  That's how they win this football game.
• 30:07
  If they asked Jalen Hurts to just drop back and, you know,
• 30:10
  just carry the game for whatever reason and, you know, just
• 30:13
  trying to playing the ball all over the place, I don't think,
• 30:16
  I'm not saying it couldn't work, but I don't think that's the
• 30:18
  optimal way for them to do it. If it's me, I'm riding Saquon
• 30:21
  Barkley to a victory over this 49ers run defense.
• 30:24
  I think this game is all about Philly.
• 30:26
  And if they let the 49ers hang around in this game, then I
• 30:29
  really believe that that'll be their own fault.
• 30:31
  Dalton, thanks for doing this man.
• 30:32
  You've been very generous with your time.
• 30:34
  We will try and run you down perhaps for championship
• 30:36
  weekend. Dale, Thank you, Dalton,
• 30:38
  appreciate it. Of course, your draft stuff will
• 30:40
  be coming up and you guys will have a big focus on the NFL
• 30:43
  draft. Daltonwassermanprofootballfocus.com
• 30:45
  Dalton, thank you. Absolutely appreciate you guys
• 30:48
  as always. Yeah, good to talk to you,
• 30:49
  Dalton Wasserman, as we check in on the NFL and college football.
• 30:53
  All right, it's a busy Sunday. Got NFL going crazy, but if you
• 30:59
  don't have plans and you like some plans, and if you're a
• 31:01
  basketball fan, you want to go see the Hawks in Illinois,
• 31:05
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• 31:14
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• 31:19
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  You will get yourself a pair of tickets to see Illinois and Iowa
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  back with our picks next Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports
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  Radio Network. Off the bench, who knows
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  football better? The war wages on.
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  It's time for the afternoon pickup sponsored by Circa Sports
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  on One O 6.3, KXNO and the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 31:59
  All right, here we go. It is time for our picks.
• 32:02
  Not a football Friday. It's a football Thursday.
• 32:06
  Well, Friday and Saturday and Sunday and Monday.
• 32:09
  As good of a slate as we have had.
• 32:12
  Perfect. Absolutely beautiful The way the
• 32:14
  calendar fell this year, we'll get into it. 5 picks this week.
• 32:17
  A little bit different as we only got 2 college games left so
• 32:20
  you don't have to pick both but I'm going to and the team box is
• 32:23
  mine. You were five and O last week.
• 32:25
  I had two, five and O's I believe this year.
• 32:27
  And two O and fives. Probably no.
• 32:30
  A lot of 1 of fours. It's been terrible.
• 32:31
  Barely over 540, seven, 46 and 2.
• 32:35
  You hold a two game lead over me in our individual contest
• 32:39
  against the boys. Our lead has ballooned up now to
• 32:43
  six, a six game lead as we come down the closing stretch here
• 32:48
  with the NFL playoffs upon us. Here we go in college football.
• 32:51
  Let's start tonight. If you've been listening to the
• 32:53
  show, you know where I think both of us are heading.
• 32:56
  I'm going to grab the Hurricanes, lay the field goal
• 32:58
  in this one. In fact, this is going to be my
• 33:00
  only favorite of the week, Miami.
• 33:03
  The cracking perhaps of old miss I think is going to be a factor
• 33:06
  here. Carson Beck, how about this?
• 33:08
  Over his last half dozen games, 13 touchdowns, 1 interception.
• 33:12
  Good. Averaging 227 yards through the
• 33:15
  air per game. I will take the Hurricanes with
• 33:17
  pick number one. Pick #2 Let's go to tomorrow
• 33:19
  night and I'm taking the Ducks. 3 1/2 is the number against
• 33:23
  Indiana. I think the rematch angle is
• 33:25
  definitely going to help them. Oregon good enough to hang
• 33:28
  around and with the shot in the end, I'll grab Oregon plus the 3
• 33:31
  1/2. To the NFL we go.
• 33:33
  Let's go to the early game, first game.
• 33:35
  We'll get to the NFL playoffs. The NFC South is involved.
• 33:39
  I got to grab the Panthers too much value.
• 33:42
  Looking at the betting splits that are out there.
• 33:43
  What is it? Oh, it is 7080% bets money all
• 33:48
  over the team. Making the long road trip from
• 33:51
  LA against the team they already lost to, giving Carolina.
• 33:55
  Bryce has to have a good game for this to come in.
• 33:57
  I think he's got a chance to do that.
• 33:58
  Carolina plus 10 1/2. I'm grabbing the 49ers in the
• 34:01
  points. I know there's a lot of injury
• 34:03
  concerns with them scoring and and the defense has been
• 34:06
  terrible. Here's the good thing.
• 34:07
  Philly's offense isn't very good.
• 34:09
  That offensive line has not been playing very well.
• 34:12
  I like the 49ers in this spot. I'll grab the five with that
• 34:15
  one. My best bet of the week comes on
• 34:18
  Saturday night. It's the Bears.
• 34:20
  Mine too. And the Packers?
• 34:23
  I'm grabbing the. Packers Now is that just a
• 34:26
  hedge? No, it's not a hedge.
• 34:29
  It's what I We've seen this game twice.
• 34:31
  Green Bay has, on the 120 minutes played, been the better
• 34:34
  team for what, 115 of them? Fair.
• 34:37
  Packers are better. I'm with you Trent, I'm with
• 34:40
  you. Let's start.
• 34:41
  And you're right, we're on the same side in this game tonight.
• 34:44
  I'm with you on Miami. I'm going to lay the field goal
• 34:47
  over Ole Miss. I love Ole Misses story.
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  I will not be sad one bit if Ole Miss wins this football game.
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  I like the champ, the story, obviously the Lane Kiffin angle
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  to things, but I will take that as my only college pick this
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  week. Then we get to the NFL and I'm
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  going to take the Rams. There's just too many people
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  that are grabbing the points in this game.
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  Although what you just told me kind of kind of goes against
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  what I was thinking. But I'm going to lay the 10
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  points because I don't think Carolina's very good and I don't
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  think Bryce Young is worth a damn.
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  I will take Carolina and Matthew Stafford, the real Most Valuable
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  Player of the NFL. Is he going to win it?
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  No, I don't think he's either. Well, yeah, he will.
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  You think he will? I think the schedule thing I.
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  It's it's real, isn't it? And I think voters will take
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  that into consideration. I'll take the Rams and lay the
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  10. You and I are on the opposite
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  side of this Eagles game. I will take Philadelphia over
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  the Niners. I'd love to see Purdy get take a
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  next step, but I just don't think that that defense is good
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  enough. As bad as the Philadelphia
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  offense is, the is the Eagles defense is absolutely elite.
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  I'll lay the 3 1/2 in that game, then I'll take Jacksonville and
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  at Hard Rock it was a you were actually getting a point and 1/2
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  in Hard Rock. Everybody else was Green Bay.
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  Our beg your pardon? Everybody else had had it the
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  other way with Buffalo being favored and they're still
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  favored everywhere but the hard rocks.
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  What am I looking at that now? No, it's a pick em there.
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  Anyways. It was a point and a half.
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  I'll take the point and 1/2 in Jacksonville.
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  My best bet of the week is green.
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  Bay who? Who?
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  Who are you taking there? Sorry.
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  I'm taking Jacksonville plus a point and a half.
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  Gotcha. Eagles -3 1/2 Rams -10 and Green
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  Bay gets a point and I'll take it.
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  I think it's me there's. A point and a half out there in
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  the market. I'll take the point and a half.
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  Yes, give me that. Yes, I'm looking at it right
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  now. Is it DraftKings?
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  No, it's not. It was a FanDuel when I looked.
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  This is 10 minutes ago. Boy, this they're flipping.
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  Back and forth. Oh absolutely.
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  It's absolutely wild. Yeah, hard rocks got them
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  favored by 1. I got this question from
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  somebody and a perfect example. 49ers, I got them +5.
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  You have them -3 1/2. The way we play is the way that
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  our friends at circus sports tell us to play, and that is get
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  the best number. This is something for everybody.
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  And when a sports book is telling you this, and guess
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  what? The big boys won't tell you
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  this. You need to have multiple outs
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  because if this thing ends for, you're a winner.
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  I'm a winner. You can't always get the best of
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  the number. I get that and.
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  MGM is 5 right now and and Hard Rock is 3 and a.
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  Half and one thing in the gambling space that drives me
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  crazy is it feels like all these pros, all these guys that think
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  they're pros, they always get closing line value, every single
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  one of them, every single time. How do they always get the best
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  of the number? They don't, no.
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  Well, they actually put in their wagers.
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  They don't. But it's funny how that happens
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  with some of the people that are out there That's Oh yeah, I did
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  have that and that half point actually mattered in that one.
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  We do this Fridays normally and we take a look.
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  We go to Wager Talk and you anybody can go.
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  There like 7 or 8 books I just clicked off of.
• 37:54
  It it's the main ones, DraftKings, FanDuel circa the
• 37:58
  Super Book, Caesar's Bet, MGM, South Point who not available
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  here. Sadly, though, our buddy Chris
• 38:03
  Andrews tried to get into the state.
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  Hard Rock, ESPN, bet Fanatics all up there and you can look
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  right there and it's a great tool for you if you do have
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  multiple outs, instead of having to go through and open up this
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  app and then open up this app and open up this one, just see
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  what it is currently. Yeah, great tool.
• 38:17
  Wagertalk.com is where you can find.
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  DraftKings, FanDuel Circus, Super Book, Caesars Bet, MGM,
• 38:22
  South Point, Hard Rock, ESPN Bet.
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  They're all up there. Just click on live odds and
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  that's where they will appear. All right, good stuff.
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  Enjoy the game tonight. Do you have a basketball lean
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  anywhere? Did you look at basketball
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  tonight at all? I haven't.
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  I will. I have some time this afternoon,
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  I believe right before I have to pick up the kids that'll have a
• 38:41
  little time in the pickup line and that's what I'll be doing.
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  My handicapping for college basketball covered about 3:45.
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  That's what I'll be getting into that.
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  But no, I didn't have time to do that today.
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  Had a couple of meetings, so didn't get to the college
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  basketball handicapping, but after last night, one and three,
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  one and four, one and four. Yeah, I had five picks, 1 and 4.
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  Drake was the only one. Well, I had Bradley that got
• 39:01
  home, but that was an ugly one. We were better early in the
• 39:04
  week. We'll try to turn it around
• 39:05
  though, and we'll be back to recap a game from Arizona Wild.
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  Why is this game there? I don't know, but that's where.
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  It is. Get rid of the polls.
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  I'm with you. I'm with you.
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  Enough. Let's make one more change.
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  Certainly the sport. We got a lot more changes in
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  the. Right, but this one would be on
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  the top, toward the top of the list.
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  All right, that's going to do it for us.
• 39:26
  Coming up next off the bench here comes Sean Robertson and
• 39:28
  Lucas strain. They will take you until 5 O
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  clock. We're Miller and Condon.
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