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Furness Show 2-17: Chuck Powell and John Lund · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports Tests your ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three KJRFM sports headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Good after this is not I in finanece. It's Greg
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  Speaker 2: the second a headlines brought to you by Frost Food
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  Speaker 2: Corselit Shoes, Chill NFL. Well, they love to manufacture their
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  Speaker 2: own news, so they have a a two week window
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  Speaker 2: open today for franchise tag use, which, in other words,
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  Speaker 2: in Seattle is two weeks of quiet. If you followed
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks, you know that John Schneider has used the
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  Speaker 2: franchise tag exactly one time, and it happened in the
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  Speaker 2: first month of him being on the job with Pete Carroll.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just all gonna have to say about that as
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  Speaker 2: it pertains to Kenneth Walker. So I know ESPN Adam
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  Speaker 2: scheffericks to put it out like man landed on the Moon,
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  Speaker 2: But no, the Seahawks are very unlikely, actually almost certainly
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  Speaker 2: not going to give the franchise tager Kenneth Walker. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about why not just because the president of sixteen years,
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  Speaker 2: but how John Schneider operates financially and sets his financial
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  Speaker 2: structure for the up season. We'll talk about all that
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  Speaker 2: come up. Tarik's Wollan's contract is ended with the Sea
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  Speaker 2: Oxy two hundred twenty twenty two Pro Bowl quarterback posted
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  Speaker 2: a meme that's what they call him? Right? Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, correct social media? Yes it is is a gift
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  Speaker 3: for Jeff definitely gift, is it?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: I've heard je gif?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well anyway. Wolan posted that on his social media
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  Speaker 2: this morning, of the fresh Prince of bel Air. Even
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  Speaker 2: I remember the fresh Prince of bel Air? All will
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  Speaker 2: you remember that? Right? Will Smith? Fresh Prince? Okay? Well, anyway?
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  Speaker 3: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Meme I'm Walker on his social media kind of the
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  Speaker 2: fresh Prince of Bella where Will Smith walking into his
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  Speaker 2: home and everything and everybody gone. Place is empty, like
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  Speaker 2: it's not his home anymore.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, that's a tough one.
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  Speaker 2: Read into that, which you will. I've talked about how
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  Speaker 2: it's not like the are going to keep one for
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. They asking around in October, I'll possibly
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  Speaker 2: trading him and didn't getting offer better than the possible
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  Speaker 2: compick they could get if Woolen and signs with another
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  Speaker 2: team in free agency. Free agency starts on March the ninth,
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  Speaker 2: the Olympics. Man, it was some really good stuff last
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  Speaker 2: night and watching the NBC primetime broadcast and flipping over
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  Speaker 2: to CBC, which I do, it's were were blessed here
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  Speaker 2: in the Pacific Northwest. If you have the access to
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  Speaker 2: CBC and watching the Olympics, it's great. The Olympic Hockey
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  Speaker 2: tournament will resume with they'll qualifying or the qualifying rounds
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  Speaker 2: are now over for the men. They're heading into the
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  Speaker 2: knockout phase. They just begin tomorrow Wednesday, the US and Canada.
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  Speaker 2: Canada and US are one two and seeding there. In
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  Speaker 2: the women's side, the gold medal match is going to
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  Speaker 2: be on Thursday between the United States and Canada, just
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  Speaker 2: like it's preordained to DAP this time. The United States
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  Speaker 2: women are by far the favorites, having won the first
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  Speaker 2: five matches in the Olympics by thirty one to nothing
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  Speaker 2: of combined score. Haven't given up a goal yet.
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  Speaker 3: They're bageling people. That's what I like to call it.
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  Speaker 3: Bageling in the Long Island, didn't you bageling people?
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  Speaker 5: They make it in everything, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: With no ox not even oars.
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  Speaker 3: No no, no, no, okay no, I'm I'm on the
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  Speaker 3: Irish Catholic side of the road.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, but it's not bad.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of Irish Cathleic Seahawks in Dublin is a possibility.
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  Speaker 2: You might talk about that later today.
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  Speaker 5: I might have to get myself out of here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you'd have to go to that anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Thursday at one think it's actually ten ten Our time
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  Speaker 2: am is the United States and Canada gold medal Olympic
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  Speaker 2: Women's hockey match. With the US prohibitive favor they shut
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  Speaker 2: out Canada in the preliminenty round. No team has ever
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  Speaker 2: shut out Canada the Olympics until the US just did
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  Speaker 2: it about a week and a half ago. What are
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  Speaker 2: we gonna have today? Well, one twenty we have Chuck
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  Speaker 2: Powell on the show. You know him from the Morning Show.
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  Speaker 2: They are now He and Bucky are down. It's Mariners
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  Speaker 2: spring training and we're gonna talk about what's going on
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  Speaker 2: down there. I want you to help me in that
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  Speaker 2: part of the show. Four nine, four to five one
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  Speaker 2: Tacoma Dodge text line texting what you want to know
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  Speaker 2: about the Mariners early in spring training? What's curious Brandon Donovan?
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  Speaker 2: What's curious about him?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Bliss, please like I love my favorite Mariners player.
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  Speaker 2: Anything you want to ask Chuck Powell, anything you want
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  Speaker 2: to know about the Mariners four nine, four to five one.
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  Speaker 2: I will ask that to Chuck at one twenty. You
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  Speaker 2: will also read back your text at two thirty. Also
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  Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio talkback line a little red button on the
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  Speaker 2: iHeart Radio up in nine through three. Kg are you
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  Speaker 2: can be a part of the show with the talkback,
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  Speaker 2: will read it your.
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  Speaker 5: Voice heard love to I really do, I.
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  Speaker 2: Actually really did two thirty. We'll read those back at one.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna hear from who I think is the most
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  Speaker 2: important Seahawks offense assistant coach. I don't want to give
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing away, the one position coach they can
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  Speaker 2: ill afford to lose, Glint Kubiak is taking. It appears
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  Speaker 2: to Andrew Genoka, the quarterbacks coach, Rick Dennison, who was
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  Speaker 2: the run game coordinator, who was really in an overseeing role.
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  Speaker 2: Not a huge loss if Dennison leaves, But there's one
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  Speaker 2: guy who has to stay, and it looks like he's
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  Speaker 2: going to and you're gonna hear from him at one
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  Speaker 2: forty five. I sat down with him at the Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl right before a couple of days before the game.
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  Speaker 2: Two o'clock you hear from John lennon the Bay Area.
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  Speaker 2: He's I'm gonna ask him. He posted right before the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl the Seahawks can thank Kyle Shanahan for saving
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  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold's career. Kyle Shannon hand.
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  Speaker 6: The forty nine.
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  Speaker 2: He was only there. Darnold was only there for as
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  Speaker 2: a nine months as a backup to Brock Purty. I
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  Speaker 2: was gonna ask John about that. Oh, please do pus,
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  Speaker 2: you said, I guess he won money in the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: He did bet heavy on them and he did.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's smarter than I give him credit for them. Now,
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  Speaker 2: John and I go way back from his K and
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  Speaker 2: VR days and say he's so fun.
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  Speaker 3: He did duck me though at the Super Bowl Ian
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  Speaker 3: and I gave him crap about it last week and
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  Speaker 3: he did not see me in person.
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  Speaker 2: Two thirty As I said, we'll read back your text
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  Speaker 2: and listen to your callbacks. You'd be part of the show.
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  Speaker 2: Two forty five day, Softy Moller and Dick Fane are
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  Speaker 2: going to be at the Cracking Community Ice Plecks for
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  Speaker 2: the North North East show today and we'll talk to
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  Speaker 2: them at two forty five. So now for the show today,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about this franchise tag window opening. Let's explain
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing first. If you don't know, the franchise
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  Speaker 2: tag window is two weeks long. Have started today, then
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  Speaker 2: two weeks from today. Each team in the NFL gets
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  Speaker 2: one franchise tag a year to use. That's it. And
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  Speaker 2: they're relatively rare to you. Why because if you use
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  Speaker 2: a franchise tag, Juman knows this, maybe listeners know this.
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  Speaker 2: If you use a franchise tag, you are committing a
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  Speaker 2: guaranteed salary for the following year to that player following
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  Speaker 2: season to that player one year, and it's the average
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  Speaker 2: of the top five salaries at each position. Annual salaries
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  Speaker 2: at each position. Is how the franchise tag number is
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  Speaker 2: arrived at by the league and the players Association for
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  Speaker 2: this season. It's an estimate because they haven't set the
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  Speaker 2: franchise tag numbers or the salary cap for this year.
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  Speaker 2: But the assumption is for running backs that total is
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  Speaker 2: going to be fourteen and a half million dollars, give
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  Speaker 2: or take a few pennies. That's fourteen and a half
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  Speaker 2: million dollars guaranteed. That means a salary cap pit will
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  Speaker 2: be fourteen point five million dollars for a running back
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  Speaker 2: if you give him a franchise tag. The franchise tag
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  Speaker 2: allows you to keep that player. If it's an exclusive tag,
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  Speaker 2: you get to keep him regardless. If it's if you
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  Speaker 2: will allow the opportunity to be matched. There's variations of
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  Speaker 2: a franchise tag. If you allowed a team the opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to match, they would only be able to do it
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  Speaker 2: if they give him that amount of money and the
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  Speaker 2: team that would be losing that player a first round
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  Speaker 2: draft pick. That's why when guys are franchise taged, they
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  Speaker 2: stay franchise tag because teams aren't going to pay the
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  Speaker 2: money and the first round draft pick to get the
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  Speaker 2: guy who's just been tagged. John Schneider, the Seahawks general
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  Speaker 2: manager for sixteen years, has used the franchise tag twice,
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  Speaker 2: but twice with an asterisk. Basically just once, and that
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  Speaker 2: was in the first month of his first GM job
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  Speaker 2: when he was hired after Pete Carroll got hired in
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  Speaker 2: January twenty ten. Olindo Maray, of all people, the kicker
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  Speaker 2: who in that year I believe was it was probably
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  Speaker 2: less than the punter that was probably the lowest franchise
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  Speaker 2: tag value in the league. That year twenty ten, they
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  Speaker 2: used the franchise tag on Alndo Mara.
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  Speaker 3: It was an interesting move, it was which drew some
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  Speaker 3: question marks, I would say over criticism.
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  Speaker 2: Just what every time I think of Alendo Mario, I
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  Speaker 2: think a Jim Mora absolutely off on him. The day
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  Speaker 2: they lost to the Bears in the worst uniform combination
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks have ever worn. Yeah, that they were Neon
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  Speaker 2: Green over blue.
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  Speaker 6: Brave.
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  Speaker 5: As they liked to say back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's Action Zoo Green, Funston's Martian Guy Green.
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  Speaker 5: It was just not great.
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  Speaker 2: They looked like street workers, like they should have had
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  Speaker 2: cones and construction sites.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, they lost to the Bears at home when man
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  Speaker 2: O Mari, who had been a great kicker for them,
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  Speaker 2: missed a bunch of field goals during that four and
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  Speaker 2: twelve season that got Jim Moore fired after just one
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  Speaker 2: year and more absolutely ripped Mari after the press conference.
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  Speaker 3: We're not gonna go out there fight this fight that
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  Speaker 3: to have our kicker go out there and missed three
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  Speaker 3: field goals.
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  Speaker 2: The end, Jim Moore, it is not a button we
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  Speaker 2: were all. That was also the year he said, we
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  Speaker 2: need more dirtbags around here. As we all at the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks beat writers passed a hat and we called Long
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  Speaker 2: Beach State University's baseball team, who were known as the Dirtbags,
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  Speaker 2: and we got him a dirtbag advisor after he said that.
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  Speaker 5: That's actually pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably still has it somewhere anyway, I'm digressing.
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  Speaker 2: So Heed he used it on a Kicker twenty ten.
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  Speaker 2: Then he used it on Frank Clark in twenty sixteen,
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  Speaker 2: and that was just to buy time for a signing trade.
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  Speaker 2: That was like an NBA type of move by Schnyder.
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  Speaker 5: I thought that was brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: It kept Clark from going to free agency that March
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  Speaker 2: and allowed him time to then work out a trade
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  Speaker 2: to the Kansas City Chiefs, where he Clark ended up
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  Speaker 2: being the highest paid edge rusher in that year's class.
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  Speaker 2: It was like one hundred and five million for three
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  Speaker 2: four years. I can't remember what it was.
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  Speaker 3: It also just lessened the commitment that they had to him,
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  Speaker 3: because how are things going. We all remember the training
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  Speaker 3: camp incident. Not to mention what happened before he was
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  Speaker 3: drafted here.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and Frank Clark never had a higher value in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL than at that moment when John Schneider sold
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  Speaker 2: high and traded him to Kansas City and ended up
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  Speaker 2: that would ended up a move that was a great
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  Speaker 2: move anyway. Two times and one time he traded the
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  Speaker 2: guy he tagged, So he's basically used the tag one
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  Speaker 2: time in sixteen years. So when you go on ESPN
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  Speaker 2: and they blare this Adam Schefter reporting that their Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: are unlikely to use the franchise tag of Kenneth Walker,
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  Speaker 2: that's like saying it's likely to rain in Seattle over
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  Speaker 2: the next three months. Yeah, that's how it happens out here.
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  Speaker 2: They don't use the franchise tag because John Schneider does
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  Speaker 2: not want to be As I was telling, Mark does
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  Speaker 2: not want to be handcuffed financially into a slotted guaranteed contract.
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  Speaker 2: He believes in his ability to strike his own deal.
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  Speaker 2: That isn't a better interest of the team a lower
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  Speaker 2: cap charge not guaranteed in case the running back of
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  Speaker 2: all positions gets injured. Remember, the running back is the
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  Speaker 2: most detrided, most injured guy with the shortest life span
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  Speaker 2: in the league. The reason the Seahawks have not given
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  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker a contract by now before he became the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP and his value skyrocketed. Is because your
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  Speaker 2: running back position gets hurt so much Walker. This was
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  Speaker 2: the first season I've talked and written about this so much.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like even my wife knows this story, and
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't read anything right, love Kenneth Walker. Pat's off
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  Speaker 2: to Wendy, who's with patients of Children's hospital and could
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  Speaker 2: care less about Kenneth Walker's goddract situation right now. But
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  Speaker 2: even she knows that the running back position is so
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  Speaker 2: beat up that no NFLGM really outside of Saquon Barkley
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  Speaker 2: to the Eagles. You can't find a free agent contract
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  Speaker 2: after a rookie deal in big bucks since Todd Gurley.
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  Speaker 2: That happened in twenty eighteen. After a NFL Offensive Player
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  Speaker 2: of the year's season for Gurley, they re signed Rams
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  Speaker 2: re signed him to a sixty one million dollar contract
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  Speaker 2: with tons of guarantee, almost all of it guaranteed, and
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  Speaker 2: he played almost three fourths of a season and that
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  Speaker 2: was it. His knees went out. He had a knee
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  Speaker 2: issues in college. His knees he Jessmin. They owed him
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  Speaker 2: thirty plus million when they cut him a year and
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  Speaker 2: a half later. He played his heart's a one season
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  Speaker 2: left for his hometown Atlanta Falcons and was out of
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  Speaker 2: the league at twenty seven. And ever since that contract
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  Speaker 2: I called the Todd Gurley syndrome. But ever since that contract,
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  Speaker 2: which Snyder saw up close and personal, in the NFC West,
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  Speaker 2: NFL GM's are really really reluctant to give second contracts,
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  Speaker 2: big money, multi year deals to running backs. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what Kenneth Walker's up against right now. That is why
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks haven't done it yet. I asked Walker in
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  Speaker 2: San Jose a couple days before the Super Bowl, have
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  Speaker 2: you heard anything from the Seahawks and John Schneider's side
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  Speaker 2: on a new deal? And he looked at me and
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  Speaker 2: he laughed. He goes, not that I know of. It's
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  Speaker 2: the same words he used to me in August. I
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  Speaker 2: believe him. He's a pretty soft spoken, humble gait. He's
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  Speaker 2: not into semantics, blowing smoke and all that stuff. No,
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  Speaker 2: he's not, so I believe him. I take him out
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  Speaker 2: his word for that. And it's because of the injury
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  Speaker 2: history at the position. If the Seahawks wanted to do that,
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  Speaker 2: and now at the eleventh hour they're not going to
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  Speaker 2: do it. At fourteen and a half million for the
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  Speaker 2: franchise tagget is guaranteed cost for a guy who's an
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  Speaker 2: injury history at a position that's the most attributed in
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  Speaker 2: the sport. They're just not So don't believe everything you
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  Speaker 2: read on the internet is what I'm saying. Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 2: unlikely to do it because of the reasons I just outlined.
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  Speaker 2: But that still leaves the question who's going to be
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks running back because Zach Sharbon is on the
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  Speaker 2: shelf injured until probably at least August into September. After
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  Speaker 2: the ACL tear in January. The injury to Charbonnay changed
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks. I mean, they weren't planning on that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, no, no one ever does right.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and that makes it a little more tricky now
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  Speaker 2: for how they're going to deal with Kenneth Walker. But
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  Speaker 2: if you're Walker, you're this close to me first time
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  Speaker 2: ever in free agency, go shop and see how much
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  Speaker 2: money you get. Anyway, we'll talk about lots more of
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  Speaker 2: about that at one We're going to talk who I think,
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  Speaker 2: and I know the Seahawks think is the key offensive
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  Speaker 2: assistant position coach to stay, and it looks like he's
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  Speaker 2: going to stay. I sat down talk with him a
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  Speaker 2: couple of days before the Super Bowl. You'll hear from
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  Speaker 2: him at one forty five two o'clock is John lenn
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  Speaker 2: from the Bay Area. But coming out next Real Mariners
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  Speaker 2: spring training because that's where Chuck pall and Bucky Jacobsons
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  Speaker 2: are and Chuck Palll is on the line next from
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  Speaker 2: Peor Arizona in ninety three point three KJRFM. Do you
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  Speaker 2: know what this music means? Mariners are back on the
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  Speaker 2: field in pure Arizona. Chuck Poll and Bucky Jacobson are
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  Speaker 2: there watching it. I think probably watching it as we speak.
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  Speaker 2: Chuck Pala is in Puor Arizona. He joins us in
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  Speaker 2: the Beacon Plumbing hotline. I get to do what you
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  Speaker 2: do to me at seven am every morning. Hello, sir,
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  Speaker 2: the shoe is on the other foot. I'm gonna Grillia
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  Speaker 2: for it. Really, So what happened? What's going on on
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  Speaker 2: February the seventeenth? I mean, are they full squad? Everyone
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  Speaker 2: reported by now and they're hitting and everything or they
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  Speaker 2: still trickling in They've all been.
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  Speaker 6: Reported for a week. Today was the first official, like
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  Speaker 6: all squad practice, so they had like a two hour
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  Speaker 6: behind closed door meetings, and then suddenly there was a
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  Speaker 6: little bit of a different feel to the practice. I
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  Speaker 6: mean I sat out and watched George Kirby. Imagine, imagine
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  Speaker 6: you're you know, you're a week into spring training and
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  Speaker 6: the foursome that you have to face in your twenty
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  Speaker 6: five pitch session is Cal Rawley, Randy Rosarina, Julio Rodriguez,
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  Speaker 6: and Josh Naylor. That's who he had to face in
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  Speaker 6: his session today, and he seemed to fare pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: Acquiring minds want to know did he get lit up?
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  Speaker 6: The pictures tot to sort of have the advantage here
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  Speaker 6: early on. I mean, this Ryan Sloan kid down here,
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  Speaker 6: twenty year old, you know, minotaur six and twenty five pounds,
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  Speaker 6: throwing easy ninety nine miles per hour, and he's just
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  Speaker 6: been dominating everybody that he's facing, and these hitters are like,
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  Speaker 6: we're not ready for this, We're.
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  Speaker 2: Not ready for this kind of nasty stuff just yet.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: So he's a non roster guy, Am I right?
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: Or is he on the non roster but a big
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: league invite along with Kate Anderson their other top pitching prospect,
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: and they are the talk of the camp and there
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: is no question about it. Greg, We always go through
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: this with training camp, trying to figure out who's creating
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: the buzz, and sometimes it shifts, and you know, sometimes
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: three or four different guys will be the talk of
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: camp before training camp gets over. Since we've been here,
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: like within five minutes, we knew who was creating the buzz.
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: And it's been that way ever since. It's Ryan Sloan
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: and Kate Anderson the top pitching prospects.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Ryan Sloan was a draft pick in twenty twenty four.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, what, he's twenty years old.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: Twenty years old.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: He throws ninety nine to four seam. He also throws
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: a two seam right, or at least he's starting to.
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: He's just a beast. I mean, you should see the
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: way this guy is put together. And then he's got
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: this baby face, so I mean he could still grow.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: He might still be growing. It's pretty pretty exciting. I mean,
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: I I've asked, I've talked to Jerry Depoto about it
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: on air and off air, and he cannot control his
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: how excited he is. Same with Justin Hollander. These two
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: have been walking around with the biggest smiles on their
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: faces you've ever seen. They are really excited about what's
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: going on down here.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: So just to Mariner fans in Seattle, don't expect Ryan
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Slunn party, what high a or will he.
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: Go he finished last year at Everett. I can tell
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: you this. I don't think that this is any secret.
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: They believe they could be major league ready this season,
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: both of them. Really, they think Kate Anderson might be already,
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: but obviously you've got some really good starting pitchers in
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: front of them, and then you've got Emerson Hancock your
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: sixth man in your starting rotation. So I don't I
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: don't think that they're in a rush. But if it
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: came down to it, I think that this organization believes
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: that they would be major league ready this calendar year,
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: that for this season if they needed them, And I
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: believe that they feel so good about them that if
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: they were on a lesser than rotation organization, with a
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: lesser than starting rotation, that they would crack it coming
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: out of spring training. And they're not putting any expectation.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: They think they're future, both of them. Number one, Number
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: two starters. So that's that's what's happening down here with
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: with these two guys. And uh, obviously you can tell
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: the buzz is electric.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, this is the familiar voice of Chuck Palace. He'
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: usually on from six to ten. So this is like
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: midnight for you one day exactly now, yeah, exactly. So
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I opened up to the Takomadad's text line some questions
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: that fans have about the Mariners, and one of them
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: is ask Chuck about Colt Emerson versus This is from
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: the fourth two five, Ask Chuck about cold Emerson versus
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Cold Young, readiness to be on the roster, and do
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: the Mariners still need a DHU.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: I don't think okay to start with cold end versus
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: Cole Young. I think there's an open competition and it's
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: probably between those two.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: And where's my man Ryan Bliss.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: He's happy. I think he's in the competition as well,
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: and I think even Leo Revas is in that competition.
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: But I do kind of get the sense, just like
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: they did a year ago with Cole Young, you can
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: take the job if you can prove that there's no
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: one else that should have that job. I think they're
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: doing that with Colt Emerson. My guess is that he
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: won't get it, but I wouldn't rule it out. I mean,
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: whenever the executives say that that's I'm on the table,
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: usually you kind of keep that stuff close to the vest.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: But they've already gone out and said that cold Emerson's
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: got a chance to win a starting job coming out
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: of out of spring training. So I think with Donovan
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: here and that positional flexibility, that he could move to
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: second if you need him, if Cole Young doesn't win
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: the job, or if Cole Young does win the job
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: and they I want Emerson to get a little more
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: seasoning than Donovan plays third base for you. But I
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: think there are a lot of different things that are
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: on the table. The only thing that's for sure is
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: that Brendon Donovan's going to be an everyday player on
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: this team.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: And the fact they sent Ben Williams in a way
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: traded him means third base for me. I just won't
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: take this Ryan Bliss slightly easily. I just won't take
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: him getting shoved to the corner.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: And I wouldn't. I don't think he's been shoved. I
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: think he's in the running. I mean and he did
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: win the job a year ago and then an injury
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: cost him the rest of his season, So I don't
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't put him as the favorite, but I do
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: think that he's in the running.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: And a d H what are they thinking there?
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: Well, you got a little bit of a crowded outfield
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: at this point, So between A Rose Arena and Julio
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: and you know they're going to play every day, and
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: now you've got Ref Schneider and Can Zone they're going
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: to be involved in some sort of platoon. But you
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: also still have Rayley, who I don't think we should
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: give up on, and Victor Roblace who's obviously healthy again,
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: which he wasn't for most of the season. So you
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: got five outfielders. You know, something tells me that in
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: that mix, one of those is going to have to
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: be your designated hitter. And you might have a couple
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: of platoons here. You might have Canzone and Refsnyder platoon
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: at DH, and then Roeblace and Raleigh platoon and right field.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: There are probably a couple of platoons that they're not
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: scared of. Now in my estimation, I mean, I think
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: A Rose Arena has a little difficulty tracking balls in
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: the outfield, and so maybe he could be in the
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: DH rotation. But I think out of those five guys,
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: one of them or two of them are going to
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: be your designated hitter. I don't think they're going to
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: add anybody else to this mix. I think this is
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: the most that they felt the roster has been set
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: at this stage in the process than in the entire
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: Jerry Depoto era.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Marina games would be far less fun to attend if
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Randy rose Arena is not in the outfield. He's so
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: fun to watch in between any throwing balls to fans. Oh,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: he loves it. She just did entertainment, walking entertainment guy.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I really enjoy when I go to I purposely sit
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: behind third base to watch him. And yeah, he's a trip.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: So I hope he is just a da Let's talk
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: about res Nider. He's thirty five years old next month.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: He's a right handed bat, and would that suggests he's
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: going to be a situational player? Is that his role
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: on this team against left handed pitching?
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: You think Jack for sure? I mean I don't think.
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's no doubt he's going to be a
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: platoon player. Whether that's right field or designated hit or
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: that's the only question that it would be. Or maybe
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: there's a chance that he's left field the platoon if
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: they did one of dhl Rose Arena more. But I mean,
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: he's just a guy that throughout the latter stage of
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: his career really, because you know, he had a tough
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: time sticking on a major league roster during his twenties
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: and then in his thirties when he just sort of
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: mastered this platoon role and he'll make some highlight plays
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: out there as well. I mean, he is a well
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: put together, like stocky, athletic, thirty five year old man.
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: So he's not just one dimensional, not just a hitter.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: He can play a little bit of defense, but he
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: has sort of turned into just a lefty specialist or
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: a lefty versus righty specialist, and that's what they signed
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: him to be here. And it's crazy, Greg, when you
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: come off a successful season as opposed to a disappointing one,
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: how the mind of the Mariner fan changes, because really
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: it's no different of a signing than AJ Pollock was
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: a couple of years ago.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: And Mariner fans hated that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: But ref Sneider gets signed and all of a sudden,
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: Mariner fans feeling good about the Mariners. Oh, I love
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: that signing. It's really the same player. Just a couple
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: of years later Pollock didn't have any success, but I
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: got a good feeling about ref Snyder. He's coming off
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: a really good year.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: David from the three six, Oh, ask Chuck Powell from
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: spring training and Pure Arizona the Beacon Plumbing highline. It
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: seems the last several years when spring training started there
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: was a ton of pressure on Julio Rodriguez's shoulder. Is
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: that different this year and could that, if so, lead
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: to a faster start for him.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: I don't know what it is. I mean, we've asked
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: Kevin Seitzer, who's been here two years. We just asked
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: him this morning, like, have you figured out the formula
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: for getting Julio started quicker? Because last year he just
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: put his hands in the air. There's nothing I can
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: do to get a guy off to a fast start.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: He either gets off to one or he doesn't. I mean,
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: maybe it's the cold weather, maybe he's not a cold
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: weather player, Maybe he just needs the reps. I don't know,
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: but he really has never gotten off to a good start,
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: and yet he's off to this fabulous beginning in his career.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: He always finishes strong. He's only twenty five. He just
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: turned twenty five, so he's not even really entered the
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: prime years. I think this one, you might say, this
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: is the first year that he enters the prime years
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: of a major league baseball player's career. So if he
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: ever does, I mean, I just want to see it.
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, let's just see what kind of season he
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: does put together. If he starts hot in April and carries.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: That into May.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: I think I look up this morning, I think he
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: had like a two o seven batting average on May
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: first this past year. So this past year, even though
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: he finished strong again, he got going earlier in twenty
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: twenty five, but he didn't get going at the beginning
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: of the year. I'd love to see it. I think
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: all Mari and her fans will love to see it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: If he gets off to a hot start, what kind
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: of year he could put together.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Twenty five years old. That's almost unbelievable, isn't it. I know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I know as many games as he's played, he's played,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: what howbout he probably had three twenty five hundred played
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: appearances in his career, already twenty five years old.
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: And I've said it every year that this is the
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: year that he gets off to the hot start, and
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: I think it's just wishful thinking, but I'm going to
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: say it again. I think he is going to get
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: off to a good start. I think he's going to
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: have the best year of his career.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Another from the text line the Tacoma Dodge text line, Chuck.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Serious question here from the two OHO six. Why is
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: can Zone still on the team. He gave us nothing
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: but a couple homers last season and was a big
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: zero in the playoffs. He offers us nothing.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: Ah, I think I think he showed you last year
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: that he made a lot of strides as a hitter.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: He actually hit left he's okay, which the year before
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: he had one hit against left handers all season long.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: He also put the ball in play more this past year,
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: and he has true legit power. I mean when he
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: hits a ball, they're usually no doubt. I do think
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: he struggles a little bit defensively, but as we said earlier,
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: that might be remedied because of a dh Maybe it's
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: a dhroll more than a right field role. This year.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: But I don't think he brings nothing to the table,
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: that's for sure. I think he's got a role on
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: this team for twenty twenty five.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Is he any minor ye options left?
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: I think he's done. I don't I don't have that
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: in front of me. I don't know that off the
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: top of my head. But I think he's done with
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: that because he just spent some time in the minor
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: leagues last year, right, and so I think that might
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: have been the last go round for that. But I
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: think he's got a major league role on this team.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, Roblaze is going to be a role player.
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: He's not going to be an everyday player Refsnyders, as
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: we've discussed, is certainly going to be a role player.
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: And then they're still figuring out, like what do we
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: have in Luke Raley? Is he going to be able
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: to recapture what he had in twenty twenty four after
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: such a rough rough year in twenty twenty five he
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: just never did get going. So I think Rayley's the
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: bigger mystery than Canzone. I think Canzone actually made some
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: strides in a lot of areas a year ago.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: And because a nailor a for his base now being
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: in trench there, Yep, it's probably Luke Raley outfield or
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Buzz Maybe Spot starts at first when he want to
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: rest and dese. Yeah, that limits what Rayley's value was
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: even compared to a year ago.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but he does do a lot of those little things.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's big, so he can bring him off
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: the bench to possibly pop a homer. He's got speed
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: even at his size. He's one of the faster guys
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: on the team. I know that's hard to believe, and
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: so you could use him to run bases. You can
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: pinch runs. He's bunted in the past, and I know
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: that's a dinosaur shivering in the snow, the ability to
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: bunt in Major League Baseball in twenty twenty five. That, yeah,
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: I know that. But Luke Rayley might be the best
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: on the team at it. He's he has that tool.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: I think he's better outfield than he is first base.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: But we don't have to worry about that with Josh
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: playing there every day this season.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, they they've got a bunch of utility infielders too.
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, maybe it's only four outfielders that they're gonna
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: keep uh in this process, and then they're gonna load
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: up on you know, utility guys like Leo Revos might
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: make the team with your guy Bliss, and then you
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: know young and Donovan who can play outfield if you
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: need him too. So, Uh, there's probably a question mark
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: about the last roster spot or two as we sit
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: here on the first full day of spring training all
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: squad practices. But I think that certainly Luke Rayley, I
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: think is a guy that I believe is going to
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: be given a check ants to show everybody he was
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: a valuable piece of this team in twenty twenty four
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: and he was a bit of a nothing in twenty
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: twenty five. But it's not like he's thirty five years old.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: I think he can recapture it. And he had a
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: baby last year. Who knows, maybe sleep schedule got thrown off,
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: Maybe the baby was Kalaki, who knows what was going
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: on in his personal life that might have thrown him off,
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: And he had that serious injury. Maybe he couldn't quite
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: ever recover from that. So I think they're going to
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: give him a full shot at the kind of reclaiming
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: his role on this baseball team.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, the rotation set, Chuck and the back end of
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the bullpen is what they've been tinkering with for a
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: couple of years now. Bizardo showed something a lot. I mean,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: he became trusted by the end of the season.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: Maybe too trusted.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, to a fault in the playoffs. But Josh Simpson,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: they just got him from the Marlins trade for I
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: think it was cash consideration to throw. It means that
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: there was no future for him for Miami. I don't know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: you just got there. But is there any talk about
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Josh Simpson's role in the bullpen.
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: We did not discuss it today. My guess is that
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: and they love to do this. He's just a guy
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: that they've had their eye on and if he became available,
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: they decide. They're never shy on just grabbing arms that
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: they think that they can turn into something. I mean,
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: he wasn't really a factor even for the Miami Marlins
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: this past year, so I doubt that he's going to
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: factor in at the beginning of the year to what
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: this team has planned for their bullpen, considering the type
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: of arms that they have coming out of the bullpen.
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: But I don't know if there's a role there. Munnos
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: is year clearcut closer. They've added this Jose Ferrara, so
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: that gives him a powerful lefty, special lefty leverage guy
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: to put with Gabe Spiers. So now you got two
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: of those guys. Matt Brash. Keep in mind he was
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: coming off an injury from the previous year and still
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: was pretty good, but he was coming off a major injury,
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: and so I would imagine the expectation is that a
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: year removed from Tommy John surgery, that he's going to
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: be that much more effect of this year. I mean,
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: they've they've kind of cleared the decks in a lot
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: of ways to make room in this bullpen. And then
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: bizarre to as you said, so there's five guys in
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: your high leverage situation. So I think they're feeling pretty
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: good about their bullpen. And my guess is that they
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: just saw an arm that from Afar that they liked.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: He became available for a cheap rate, and they decided
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: just to add him to the lumber yard they have
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: in the back.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: All right, Chuck, I before I let you go, the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: two five three needs to know has Bucks snoring impacted
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Chuck's beauty sleep.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: Well, we're not in the same room, thank goodness.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how big is the room?
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: How about well, he's like four doors down or if
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: you're yeah, if you're into you know, nineties music, three
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: doors down? Uh so yeah, I don't have any knowledge,
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: but I do believe that he does kind of tip
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: the scales, uh in that area. I have heard he's
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: a bit of a snore, so I'm glad I've never
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: been the recis at the end of it before.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Sorry to ask such a personal question.
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: It was rather personal. You invaded my space.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Well, and just to bop in here.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: This coming from our friend Luke Arkins just now because
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: he was listening Ken zone does have two options.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: Redes he does. I didn't know that.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Either, but Luke is perfect when it comes to knowledge.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Leave the Navy guys. The reason I ask about that,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: of course, is this time of year that comes into
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: play about whether the team wants to send the guy
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: down the Triple A at the end of the train
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: training or spring training or not. All right, Chuck, I'll
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: let you go get some in and out. Thanks for
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: joining us so here tomorrow he'll be on six to ten.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Thanks Chuck.
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: Please no fast food thank you, Greg.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Okay Chuck from PR SO, I guess Bucky's going to
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: do all the in and out and tilted kilt instead
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: of Chuck. They're on the rest of the week every
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: morning six am to ten from Mariner's Spring training doing
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: all kinds of interviews with players. General manager Jerrett Poto's
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: up at the website nine through three, k Yar dot Com,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Chuck Powin, Bucky Jacobson from Mariner's spring training. Up next
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks assistant coach. They can afford to lose this offseason.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Quin Kubek's taken a couple to the Raiders, but he's
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: not taking this guy, at least that's not what he
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: told me. You're gonna hear from offensive line coach John Benton,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: who I sat down at the Super Bowl with John
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Benton's on your air Next on ninety three point three KJRFM,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Welcome back Greg Bell, the News, Shavin Jesson McIntyre with you.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I'm in for Ian for Nass who's vacation because the
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: crack and are off because the Olympic Men's Hockey Tournament
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: is continuing and that's where all the NHS go. But
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Dave Softimuller and Dick Fane are in the Cracking ice Plex.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Not sure why, but they're doing a show from North
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Gate from the Crack and ice Flex even though they're now.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: Although pretty soon here next couple of days of.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Krack and who are not in the Olympics to reconvene.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: There are a lot that will be there.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: I know we have Mike Benton hosting this show tomorrow
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: and they will be there.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you to Mike. We'll be hosting again in this
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: spot from one until three tomorrow. We've already told you
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: and talked to the Kenneth Walker situation. The update on
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks coaching situation. We know Brian Flurry is in
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: coming from the forty nine Ers, who's the run game
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: coordinator and tight ends coach for Kyle Shanahan San Francisco.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: He's gonna be the new offensive coordinator for the Seahawks,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: replacing Clint Kubiak, who, of course now is the new
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders. Kubiak is taking
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Andrew Jenoko, the quarterbacks coach from Seattle, to the offensive
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: coordinator who won't call plays in Las Vegas. And there's
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: word now that Rick Dennison, the run game coordinator for Seattle,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: is going to Las Vegas with Kubiak as well. That's
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: not a big deal. I saw Dennison and was told
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: he was more of an overseer than he was hands
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: onto that run game. The hands on guy is John Benton.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: And you talk to Charles Cross and Grey's Abel and
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Jayden Sendell and Anthony Bradford and Abe Lucas and Josh Jones,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: the backup swing tackle and everybody else on that offensive line,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: and they when you ask him, hey, well, how did
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: it prove this season? How the offensive line and the
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: offensive proof, they say two words. John Benton three decades
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: going on three decades as an offensive line coach. Started
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: in two thousand and three with the Saint Louis Rams.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: That was his first NFL job as an offensive line coach,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: and he's been doing it ever since, including with Klint
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Kubiak in twenty twenty four with the Saints, including in
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five with the Seahawks win their line went
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: from a liability to a strength, and the Seahawks went
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: from bottom of the league and running till at the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: top in the playoffs. And once that running game that
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: John Benton outside zone teaches it. Once it finally clicked,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks became Super Bowl champions, Mike McDonald cold play
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the way he wanted to, catering to his defense with
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: field position in the run game, setting up Donald's pass game,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: and they won the Super Bowl. John Benton, to me,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: is the most important position coach Carl Scott in the
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: secondary probably second, but the most important position coach to
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: retain is John Benton. And it sounds like he's not
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: going anywhere. I talked to him in San Jose a
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: couple of days before the Super Bowl. John Benton, the
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: offensive line coach. This is what he said about what
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: his feelings are. Remember he's been in the league now
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: for twenty two years in a row, coaching and five
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: or six different teams. First, he talks about the Seahawks culture,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: and second I point black ask him if he's leaving
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: to go with Kubiak to the Raiders of all your tours,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: what's unique about the Seahawks environment to Mike McDonald's creator
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: and maybe even John Schneider.
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I'll tell you what after being or it's
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: a it's really an impressive organization.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: You could tell that right off the bat, you know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: right when you walk in the door.
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: From John Schneider open. He talks all the time about
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: it's you know, we're all together and takes input from
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: everybody and and it's really true and all the way
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: to shoot everyone so so happy in the building.
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: It I've never been in one like that. Just walk
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: into work. You have to say a low five hundred times.
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: It's just a good thing. But you can tell it
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: the work environment as a whole is very positive, and
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: that is not true probably, you know. And then and
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: then Mike just what a what a tremendous job. And
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: you know, I see him as in front of the team,
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: his he preaches all the time about I'm gonna I
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: gotta think of the exact phrase he uses all the time.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: But.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: He elucid focus that too.
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's exactly what he is. And I think
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: so many kinds of players take as a coach, because
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: players take your personification and your type of deal and
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: what what I can't think of the better one to
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: take that his his demeanor.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: In front of the team.
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: It's really really been a pleasure the whole, the whole experience.
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: Can you give fans that are freaking on me saying
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: it is John and leave it to give me an
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: anything else.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I'm a damn it. That was John Benton pounding the
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: table in the same Yeah, the little damn it there
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: for emphasis. Most Seahawks coaches position coaches are year to year.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Some aren't. Andrew Ginoko, in fact, had a two year
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: contract that ran through next year. The reason why Janoko
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: was able to leave without the Seahawks blocking them Mike
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: McDonald blocking him. That was a promotion that was from
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: a position coach, quarterbacks coach, two offensive coordinator, even though
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: he's not going to call the play is Glen Kubiak
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: will be the head coach calling the plays in Las Vegas.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: That is a promotion. In the NFL, you cannot block that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: You can block lateral moves. So if the Raiders wanted
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: to call and ask John Benton, if Kubiak said, hey,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: John Benton, like you did from the Saints to the Seahawks,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: can you follow me to the Raiders, Mike McDonald is
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: going to say Nope, no, we're not going to do that.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: He is instrumental, I mean really big, especially with the
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator changing, to have the continuity and the offensive
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: line in the continuity the outside zone run game. Abe
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Lucas told me in training camp and it kept ringing
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: in my ears the whole season. He said, great. The
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: difference last year was under Scott Huff and Ryan Grubb.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: They asked us to do everything wanted. We were supposed
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: to be masters of everything, and that's part of the
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: job as a pro. But outside zone, inside zone, gap scheme, pulling,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: man blocking, zone blocking, wad to do everything. And then
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: John Benton came here and said, you're learning outside zone
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: and here's how you do it. Here's the angles to
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: do it. And as you heard, actually it was part
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: of the conversation we didn't air. John Benn was telling
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: me that every game plan, what makes him unique in
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: coaching his style of outside zone, every game plan of
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: all eighteen games at regular seats, seventeen games at regular season,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: starts with outside zone and then he has learned over
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: a couple decades of when defenses take that away, what
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: the counters are to it. But it's a singular clarity
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: and purpose of one job outside zone block walking angles
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: here when we run it to this side, we're going
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: to put the targets here. You block this guy, you
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: blocked this guy. And Abe Lucas told me in training
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: camp that clarity of that your guy, Abe Lucas, jessseman Ah,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: he is.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: My guy, He's Mike Koog.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: The clarity of that purpose made all the difference in
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: the world to the offensive line. They all of a
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: sudden they only had to be masters of one instead
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: of masters of everything. They had to just do one thing,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: and they did master it, and it took a while
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: for the running backs to get used to that. John
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Benton talked to me last week about the running backs
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: role in all of this and that their targets changed.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: They asked them to do on sharper angles, closer to
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: the line of screamage and also more to the second
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: and third levels than a lot of outside zone defense
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: offensive schemes do. And it took a while for all
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: of that to come together, but John Bent was explaining,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: we got it now, and it was the Carolina game
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: in week sixteen where they finally meshed it and then
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: they went off and running for the rest of the game.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: That Carolina game was the first game in a while
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: that they had exclusively go outside zone because of how
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: the Panthers defense was that was an outside zone game,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: and Benton was explaining that to me, they can't lose
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: him now now that they've done all this, and from
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: what he's telling me, and I believe him, and from
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: what McDonald has told me, I believe him, they're not
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: letting John Benton go.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: He and he also sounds really happy here.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: And you know, I talked to Gray z Abel and
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Abe in you know, in the locker room after the
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl, and Gray was the first person I talked to,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: and he just said, run the damn ball, was his
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: answer to my first question, which was just about, you know,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: obviously the offensive scheme was chipping away, chipping away, and
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: he said, run the damn ball, and they obviously figured
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: out how to do that.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Four nine, four to five.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: One.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: You're feeling about the Seahawks coaching staff minus Clint Kobeac
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: and Andrew Ginoko and maybe Rick Dennison. I'm here to
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: say that they're okay as long as they got John
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Benton on the offensive staff still four nine, four to five.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: When we'll read back your texting at Tacoma Dodge text
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: line at two thirty up next John Lynn from the
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Bay Area. It's like Western one Radio. He's a longtime
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: friend of mine from old can br days. He's Ian's
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: guest at that time every day every week at two
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: o'clock on Tuesday, he'll join us next to two thirty.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: You'll be a part of the show because we'll read
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: back your text and your talkbacks and two forty five
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Dave Softy Maller and Dick Fan will join us from
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: the crack and ice Plex where I understand this is
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: actually the first practice during the Olympic break, and I
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: thought there were more guys and this is only three guys.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: It's Grubauer and Capocaco with Finland and Totland, and those
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: are the only guys that are gone. So the rest
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: of the team is going to be there apparently at
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: three o'clock practice. That's why Dave Softy Moller and Dick
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Fans broadcast.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: We will get the best observation ever.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: It'll be probably rinkside. I'm sure Dave Softy Maller has
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: all the pucks knowledge. Mike Benon will be there to
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: help him out. I'm sure.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: Hey, Yes, Mike Bennon is always present.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: John lond Up next on ninety three point three KJRFM, No.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: From the Star Rentals Sports Test your ninety three point
• 43:02
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• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Good Tuesday afternoon to you, Greg Bell, the News Tribune
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: and Jessman McIntyre with you on ninety three point three
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: kJ RFM headlines are brought to you by soft Rude
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Ross Brude. Maybe it's soft rude course.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: Like I mean, who knows, they might must give them a.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Little massage Colorado's They probably do it softly. The Washington
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Huskies are quote going to part ways with offensive coordinator
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Doherty. That's according to Matt Zenit's the senior college
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: football reporter for CBS Sports and sort Dave Softy Maller
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: and Dick Fanell opining about that in about an hour
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: or so. Jimmy Doherty leaving you dub as the offensive
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: court of coach Jed Fish calls the plays offensively. The
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: head coach. But that's from Matt Zenet's of CBS Sports.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: They've Safty Maller and Dick Fane in an hour might
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: have more to say about Jimmy Doherty leading as the
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator the University of Washington. The NFL the franchise
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: tag designation window open today teams have two weeks to
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: use their loan franchise tag and transition tag for that matter.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks have used two technically fransition tags in sixteen
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: years of John Schneider being the general manager. One was
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: on Kicker or Linda Mary in the first month of
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Snyder being on the job in twenty ten. The other
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: was on Frank Clark, the defensive end. They just by
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: time to trade him was like an NBA deal, a
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: sign and trade to give him the tag and trade
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: him to the Kansas City Chiefs and that's it in
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: sixteen years. So no, there is no expectation the Seahawks
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: are going to use a franchise tag to keep Super
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker at fourteen and a half million
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: dollars guaranteed for twenty twenty six. I talked to Walker
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl right before the Super Bowl MVP performance,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: and he said Seahawks haven't even come to him with
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: a contract offer or any thought of beyond twenty twenty five.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: During the season, he told me the same thing using
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: the same words not that I know of, in August
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: that he used to me in February. We'll see what
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: happens two weeks too. They could put a franchise. Hec
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: doesn't know that it's going to be Kenneth Walker, and
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: he will be heading toward free agency that opens March ninth.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: March ninth is the negotiating window. Of March eleventh is
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: when the window your signings officially began. John Lynn from
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: the Bay Area. He's got his opinions about the Seahous
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: because he what's won big bucks from him. He's on
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the line now we're gonna talk to him now.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Ean's weekly visit with John Lund Unleashed. He's
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: a Bay Area media icon who's known Ian for over
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: twenty five years. But don't let their age change your
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: opinion of them. John takes you through the Bay Area
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: and the NFC West and dupes it out with Ian
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: over the Niners and the Hawks. So let's unleash it
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: now with John Lund.
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: Here's Ian.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Well, actually, here's Greg Bellow the News Tribune to talk
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: to John Lennon because he has skipped up this week.
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: Hello, John, much more professional like you have dis conversation before. Yeah,
• 45:50
  Speaker 9: thanks Shoe, the show is upgraded leaps and bounds.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Thank you for that, sir.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: And leaps and bound.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna ask you out the time I
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: saw that you posted two days before the Super Bowl,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: John that the Seahawks basically can thank Kyle Shanahan for
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: saving Sam's career. What did you mean by that? Sam
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Donald had a single backup season to brock Party.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Look, I'll be honest with you.
• 46:14
  Speaker 9: When he came in the way he throws the ball,
• 46:17
  Speaker 9: A lot of people were in my issue with with
• 46:19
  Speaker 9: Sam And you know this as well, or probably better
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: than I do. It wasn't a physical thing with Sam Donald.
• 46:26
  Speaker 9: It was a mental thing with Sam Donald. And early
• 46:28
  Speaker 9: in camp you saw Donald kind of struggle with the
• 46:30
  Speaker 9: playbook and all of a sudden he got it and
• 46:32
  Speaker 9: he got it and he got it. And there were people,
• 46:34
  Speaker 9: I'm not Kidney, Greg, you know how training camp works.
• 46:35
  Speaker 9: You're just standing around just you know, bs and shooting
• 46:38
  Speaker 9: the breeze a little bit. And we got into a
• 46:40
  Speaker 9: conversation of whether Sam Donald, whether if they were that good,
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: Sam Donald could could get them and win a Super Bowl,
• 46:49
  Speaker 9: get them to and win a Super Bowl. And it
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: was legit because the way he started to play and
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: how comfortably he was in the system and where the
• 46:54
  Speaker 9: ball was going. He's got better physical skills than what
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: brock Party does and I think all Kyle Sanahan simply
• 47:01
  Speaker 9: did was give him the confidence where to go with
• 47:03
  Speaker 9: the football. And again when people say that Kyle Shanahan, it's.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: Simple to play quarterback, for Kyle Shanahan, it is anything but.
• 47:09
  Speaker 9: And you know this Ken Clank quarterback of the league
• 47:12
  Speaker 9: period is very very difficult. Three and pound men trying
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: to rip off your face in two point one seconds
• 47:17
  Speaker 9: best of luck, and you got to read what everybody's
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: doing at the same time, option routes, all the different things,
• 47:21
  Speaker 9: so it's never easy. But he just kind of got it,
• 47:24
  Speaker 9: and you talk to him and became more and more confident.
• 47:27
  Speaker 9: He just from the time he got there to the
• 47:29
  Speaker 9: time he left, was a totally different guy. And it
• 47:32
  Speaker 9: wasn't anything physical, It was everything mental. So to say that,
• 47:36
  Speaker 9: you know when he went to Minnesota the next year,
• 47:38
  Speaker 9: to say that I thought he was going to throw
• 47:40
  Speaker 9: what thirty five touchdown passes.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: And be to that level.
• 47:42
  Speaker 9: No, but I knew he was going to be good.
• 47:44
  Speaker 9: And I was a huge skeptic when Sam Donald got here.
• 47:46
  Speaker 9: I just thought, no way, he's mentally shot, not gonna happen.
• 47:49
  Speaker 9: We've seen in a million times, and from the time
• 47:51
  Speaker 9: I saw him in Turning Camp to the time he left,
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: I had a.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: Ton in a ton of confidence in Sam Donald.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Did they even attempt the forty nine ers, I don't
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: even remember. Did they even attempt to resign him before
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: he went to Minnesota for twenty twenty four?
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: No.
• 48:06
  Speaker 9: I think what they've essentially done because that next year
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: they had Brandon Allen.
• 48:10
  Speaker 10: And he wasn't very good and people forget and then.
• 48:13
  Speaker 9: They got mac Jones and what he's done, and I
• 48:15
  Speaker 9: think they're going to trade back Jones.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: It just makes too much sense.
• 48:18
  Speaker 9: They've got too much salary, they still got a bunch
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: of dead cap and all that kind of stuff, so
• 48:21
  Speaker 9: they almost have to.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: Trade mac Jones. But I think that Kyle has kind of.
• 48:26
  Speaker 9: Got into this rhythm where he really wants to have
• 48:29
  Speaker 9: somebody around that he can mentor and help. But I
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: think they just do a really good job on the
• 48:36
  Speaker 9: mental side, because as again, you know, most teams have
• 48:39
  Speaker 9: some sort of an offense that mirrors what Kyle Shanahan
• 48:42
  Speaker 9: and the Seahawks and the Vikings and the Rams and
• 48:44
  Speaker 9: all these teams.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Do, and that's why Brian Flurry is a new offensive
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: coordinator for the Seahawks. In your time, right, Floury was
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: there for set what seven seasons? What when you heard
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: the name Brian Fleury? What do you think about as
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: a forty nine ers assistant?
• 48:59
  Speaker 10: You know what's amazing is he's.
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: Been there whatever since twenty nineteen. Was there and I've
• 49:05
  Speaker 9: talked to the guy on a few occasions. Kyle has
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: spoken highly of him. But to be honest, I know
• 49:11
  Speaker 9: he was out.
• 49:12
  Speaker 10: On the circuit a little bit looking for the last
• 49:14
  Speaker 10: couple of years.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: In offensive coordinator jobs. But I just didn't really think.
• 49:17
  Speaker 9: He was a guy that was gonna leave. But then
• 49:19
  Speaker 9: it's almost like this all ways. So then you start
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: asking around, right, you start saying, okay, well what was
• 49:23
  Speaker 9: the deal?
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: What was the deal?
• 49:24
  Speaker 9: And just tons of praise came out of there. So
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: he was a quiet guy that wasn't a lot talked
• 49:28
  Speaker 9: about with him. I know he not just the tight
• 49:30
  Speaker 9: ends coach. He was heavily, heavily just and this is
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: how Kyle does it, heavily heavily involved in the not
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: only the run game, but just everything how the offense works.
• 49:39
  Speaker 9: And Kyle is the type of guy that he'll take
• 49:42
  Speaker 9: tons and tons of information, even though everybody doesn't seem
• 49:44
  Speaker 9: to think that. He's very much different I think than
• 49:46
  Speaker 9: Sean McVay in that way, and he'll make his own
• 49:48
  Speaker 9: decisions and don't get me wrong, the final say is his.
• 49:52
  Speaker 9: But Brian Fleury was in there just like Klay Kubiak
• 49:56
  Speaker 9: was in there, just like you know, he learned a
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: lesson with Mike mc donald left or Mike McDaniel left,
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: which is it's not all on me. And I think
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: what happened when McDaniel went to the Dolphins is Kyle
• 50:06
  Speaker 9: kind of inwardly thought I'm going to have to control
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: everything now, and he learned a lesson from it. So
• 50:10
  Speaker 9: over the last few years he's really gotten a ton
• 50:13
  Speaker 9: of input from everybody so well. I don't think Brian
• 50:15
  Speaker 9: Fleury was a guy that was on the tip of
• 50:16
  Speaker 9: everybody's tongue, even here locally.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: I think that.
• 50:19
  Speaker 9: Obviously he has the trust of Kyle Shanahan, because that's
• 50:23
  Speaker 9: the word when he left as.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: You Know It, John Lynn joining us in the Bear
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: and the Beacon Plumbing hotline. As you Know It, has
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: he had any play calling, expense, training camp or preseason
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: games or anything.
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: No, And again this is something you know a lot
• 50:37
  Speaker 9: of times, Kyle doesn't call plays in the preseason.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: He gave him up to Clint Kubiak. Last year.
• 50:41
  Speaker 9: He gives him up to all his offensive coordinators. So
• 50:44
  Speaker 9: there was such a line of guys that were there
• 50:47
  Speaker 9: that no. Brian Flurry never did call plays here, which
• 50:50
  Speaker 9: again was one of the surprising things for me, which is,
• 50:53
  Speaker 9: you know, you're going to a super Bowl team that
• 50:55
  Speaker 9: was so good, and you saw the difference and I'm
• 50:57
  Speaker 9: preaching the choir, but you saw the difference from her
• 51:00
  Speaker 9: I and Grubb to a Kubiak, and all of a sudden,
• 51:02
  Speaker 9: you know how important a position is. Because Mike McDonald,
• 51:04
  Speaker 9: just like Clay, just like what Kyle Shanahan does here,
• 51:08
  Speaker 9: Kyle gets the defensive coordinator so that he does not
• 51:11
  Speaker 9: have to touch the defense, not that he doesn't want to,
• 51:14
  Speaker 9: it's just that he goes from floor, he goes from
• 51:17
  Speaker 9: Robert Sala to Raheem Morris. He does that on purpose.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: He did Nick.
• 51:20
  Speaker 9: Thawrenson one year, who you know from his days in Seattle.
• 51:23
  Speaker 9: He did Nick Lawrenson one year, and he just had
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: to spend way too much time on that side of
• 51:27
  Speaker 9: the ball. So I'm just giving a bit of warning.
• 51:29
  Speaker 9: Not that I care one way or the other, not
• 51:31
  Speaker 9: jaded against the Seahawks anything like that or towards the
• 51:33
  Speaker 9: forty nine ers. It's just that you're bringing in a guy,
• 51:36
  Speaker 9: as you just said, has not called plays before. And
• 51:39
  Speaker 9: the way it worked so well for the Seahawks this year,
• 51:41
  Speaker 9: and you were around it every single day, is you
• 51:42
  Speaker 9: had a guy that Mike McDonald could look across and
• 51:45
  Speaker 9: see he's got the offense. I'm good, And I think
• 51:47
  Speaker 9: that that's really really big. I think it's I don't
• 51:49
  Speaker 9: care who you are, Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, Mike McDonald, like.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Any of these guys, they don't want to have to
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: deal with that.
• 51:55
  Speaker 9: Not that their hand isn't in it, not that they
• 51:57
  Speaker 9: don't have final approval, But yeah, I was a little
• 51:59
  Speaker 9: bit so prize from that standpoint of where the Seahawks are.
• 52:03
  Speaker 9: And I know it was late in the process because
• 52:05
  Speaker 9: they won the Super Bowl, but to bring in somebody
• 52:08
  Speaker 9: who hasn't called plays, he must have just blown.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Them away, right exactly. And the fact they had four
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: internal candidates lined up and looked like, yeah, injurw Denoko
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I thought was going to get the job. John One
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: joining us from the Bay area Westwood won Sports. He's
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: on with Ian every time every Tuesday at this time
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: at two in the afternoon. And you mentioned Raheem Morris.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: John and Robert Saal gets his second chance at a
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: head coaching job, leaves for Tennessee and they go to
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: a former head coach, Rasheem Morris, who of course was
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: a Falcon's head coach until the middle of last season.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: What do you expect to be different or the same
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: or how the forty nine ers changed defensively? Like you said,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Shanahan wants that shop to be the defensive coordinator's shop.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Do you see at the surface how the Niners might change,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: improve or be different on defense?
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, it's a personnel issue. They had
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: so many.
• 52:56
  Speaker 9: Issues, so Nick Bosa's got to come back. They still
• 52:59
  Speaker 9: have major problems the defensive line. They took Mickel Williams,
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: he blows out his knee. Fred Warner should be fine,
• 53:04
  Speaker 9: he's acting like it. And Dee Winners did a nice
• 53:06
  Speaker 9: job of replacing Googreg Gary Lan. They've got another year
• 53:09
  Speaker 9: for a really really young secondary. So I think just
• 53:12
  Speaker 9: by health purposes, and I think in the draft they'll
• 53:14
  Speaker 9: go ahead the defense again. But your point is well
• 53:16
  Speaker 9: made because you know, when they hire Raheem Morris, it's
• 53:19
  Speaker 9: not that he's not great at what he does, but
• 53:21
  Speaker 9: Kyle Sanahan wants a certain style of defense, and Raheem
• 53:24
  Speaker 9: must have told him that they would run more.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: It's not going to be, Hey, Raheem, you bring your defense.
• 53:28
  Speaker 9: It's a lot of what Kyle wants out of a defense,
• 53:31
  Speaker 9: and then that guy kind of has to adapt a
• 53:33
  Speaker 9: little bit.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: So I'm a little surprised, not by.
• 53:35
  Speaker 9: The fact that he's established like he is, but it's
• 53:38
  Speaker 9: a different defense.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: A little bit.
• 53:40
  Speaker 9: And the last time they did that was Steve Wilks.
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: Now you may be saying, hey, lond you're an idiot.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: Because I get that a lot.
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: They went to the Super Bowl that year, they lost
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: to Las Vegas, but he and Steve Wilkes had it
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: out a lot, and I'm sure remember it. He wanted
• 53:53
  Speaker 9: to be in the box up, you got to come
• 53:55
  Speaker 9: downstairs like he wasn't real comfortable.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: They just weren't on the same page all season long.
• 53:59
  Speaker 9: And then that led to Lawrenson because he overcorrected. He said, well,
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: I really want a guy in house, so it's gonna
• 54:04
  Speaker 9: be interesting. But this is what the Niners and now
• 54:07
  Speaker 9: what the Seahawks have to deal with. When you have
• 54:09
  Speaker 9: the success that these teams have, everybody's trying to poach
• 54:12
  Speaker 9: every part of you and it becomes difficult. I think
• 54:15
  Speaker 9: it really is hurt. For example, the Eagles, you know,
• 54:17
  Speaker 9: to have them to go through, they met as many
• 54:19
  Speaker 9: offensive coordinators as they as they've had. I think Kyle
• 54:22
  Speaker 9: and Sean McVay have done a tremendous job in replacing guys,
• 54:25
  Speaker 9: but it's just not easy.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: So well, I think that Raheem Morris is a great pick.
• 54:29
  Speaker 9: I get a little nervous that he may be trying
• 54:32
  Speaker 9: to do too much, and Kyle may say, hey, because
• 54:34
  Speaker 9: as much as I just said that, he really wants
• 54:36
  Speaker 9: his hands off, Raheem Morris.
• 54:38
  Speaker 10: Must have said, look, with this personnel, here's.
• 54:39
  Speaker 9: What I could do, and Kyle signed off on it
• 54:41
  Speaker 9: because the last time they brought an a big name
• 54:43
  Speaker 9: defensive coordinator that was not Robert Sala, it didn't work out.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: So well, that's a good point about the Eagles getting
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: post because the Lions lost Ben Johnson, and they looked
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: like a different.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: Times exactly right, offense and defense.
• 54:54
  Speaker 9: It was Aaron Glenn, who's maybe not a great coach,
• 54:56
  Speaker 9: But you lose two guys exactly right.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: You lose two guys like that in one year. That's
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: a lot adjustment for your players. It just is. And
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: you're not gonna play the same way.
• 55:05
  Speaker 9: So look, I think Seattle is rocking and rolling, but
• 55:09
  Speaker 9: it's the same kind of a thing to think that
• 55:11
  Speaker 9: there may not be at least a learning period. Then
• 55:13
  Speaker 9: you just mentioned ken Walker. They guy know they have
• 55:16
  Speaker 9: to get a lot of.
• 55:16
  Speaker 10: Extensions done, which is you know, and I'm sure.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: You've talked about it a ton.
• 55:20
  Speaker 9: Look when you hit all the home runs that John
• 55:21
  Speaker 9: Schneider has hit, all of a sudden, there's no downside
• 55:24
  Speaker 9: to it. It's just you got to pick and choose
• 55:25
  Speaker 9: how you're gonna pick and and I don't know what
• 55:27
  Speaker 9: they're gonna do with ken Walker. And obviously you know
• 55:30
  Speaker 9: Zach Charbonay and you're around the team the heck of
• 55:31
  Speaker 9: a lot more than I am.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: But I mean, what are they gonna do? Go get
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Breeze Hall.
• 55:35
  Speaker 9: I mean, there's gonna be changes in the offense because
• 55:38
  Speaker 9: when they're coordinators, and I'm to get The Lions are
• 55:40
  Speaker 9: the perfect example.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, they had some.
• 55:42
  Speaker 9: Injuries, there's no doubt about it, but there's no reason
• 55:44
  Speaker 9: the Lions should have not made the playoffs last year.
• 55:47
  Speaker 9: But trying to adjust to two coordinators. People just don't
• 55:49
  Speaker 9: talk about it enough.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: John Len John lenn Radio joining us on ninety three
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: point three kd RFM.
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: John, your best friend here.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't want to rewind this conversation too much
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: because we were you were talk extensively about Rahee Morris,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: someone who I've known since I was like twelve.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: So I have.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: I've got or John, I've got a lot more, don't
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: you worry? Technically, I think I was babysitting him when
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: he was a safety at hofter Union.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Continue on. I'm sorry.
• 56:26
  Speaker 10: Anything like that.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: I wanted to know it because obviously I followed Raheem's
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: career as a friend and just seen it is very
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: different what he has done because you know, he's a
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: secondary coach. Then he goes to wide receivers, which I
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: thought was maybe a new innovation when it came to
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: NFL coaching and getting someone who can see the other
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: side of it, right, Okay. Obviously Kyle Shanahan has known
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: him since their time together in Washington, and so I'm wondering,
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: if you see, just because of this poaching and everything,
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: everyone sees all upside and potential. Well, if there's an
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: evolution of coaching that Mike go on where people get
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: a little bit more creative with who they hire, maybe
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: with Raheem as an example.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't think there's need to doubt.
• 57:13
  Speaker 9: I mean, when a lot of people were speculating from
• 57:17
  Speaker 9: a media standpoint of how many different people were in
• 57:20
  Speaker 9: this thing, but according to Kyle, it was Raheem or Bus.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: I mean that's who they wanted, and so.
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: He was when he was looking around. I know he
• 57:27
  Speaker 9: was talking to Arizona and a number of different teams.
• 57:29
  Speaker 9: I think that Kyle just that was his guy. And
• 57:32
  Speaker 9: I think, you know, another smart thing, And I think
• 57:35
  Speaker 9: this is the same thing when you're like a Brian
• 57:37
  Speaker 9: Fleury who's going to Seattle. Look, you're putting yourself on
• 57:40
  Speaker 9: the fast track, like Raheem Morris to getting another shot.
• 57:42
  Speaker 9: And I know that he's had a couple and I
• 57:44
  Speaker 9: think that roberts All is going to do great with
• 57:46
  Speaker 9: his But I think getting to these type of teams.
• 57:48
  Speaker 9: I mean Arizona for example. I've got a lot of
• 57:50
  Speaker 9: friends down there that cover the Cardinals and Michael Lafleur.
• 57:53
  Speaker 9: I don't know what Michael Flure has ever done, not
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: good with the Jets, But anytime you're around these type
• 57:58
  Speaker 9: of teams, I think it's good for business for all
• 58:01
  Speaker 9: these guys and gets them back on the on the
• 58:02
  Speaker 9: track to being a head coach.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and do you think that some guys because I
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: always thought Sala great coordinator, maybe maybe not the greatest
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: head coach.
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: When does his run end?
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: When does Sala's run? You're talking about Cola Sala.
• 58:22
  Speaker 9: Look, I think he's in a great spot now. Our
• 58:25
  Speaker 9: guy cam Word Washington State Cougar, not in miam Hurricane.
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: I know you'd appreciate that. But it's all on cam Ward.
• 58:32
  Speaker 9: And according to what I know with Robert Salin, I mean, look,
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: he Arizona.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: All but offered him the job and he.
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: Went to Tennessee, and I think they they want him
• 58:41
  Speaker 9: to be what Mike Brable was. They never should have
• 58:43
  Speaker 9: fired Mike Grabel. And I'm of the opinion that other
• 58:46
  Speaker 9: than John Harball, which was a home run, every I
• 58:48
  Speaker 9: think everybody thinks that. I think Robert Sala was the
• 58:50
  Speaker 9: second best hire in the cycle because he's going to
• 58:52
  Speaker 9: put them back to where they were. They're going to
• 58:55
  Speaker 9: run the ball, They're going to be tough on defense.
• 58:57
  Speaker 9: He is a leader of men. There's no question in
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: my mind that Robert Sally is not one of those
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: guys who's a great coordinator but not a great head coach.
• 59:03
  Speaker 9: I think he can be, but it's difficult and everything
• 59:06
  Speaker 9: hinges to me on cam Ord, who played well at
• 59:09
  Speaker 9: the end of last year, but comes down to personnel
• 59:11
  Speaker 9: all the different things the Seahawks did. I mean, you
• 59:13
  Speaker 9: can be a great head coach, but the gents are
• 59:14
  Speaker 9: just a dumpster fire. So I think that I think
• 59:17
  Speaker 9: the Robert Tali was the second best hire in the cycling.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: I think he's going to do great in Tennessee.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: John Lynn joining us in the Bay Area talking about
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: forty nine Ers and Seahawks and telling us about Brian
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Fleury coming to the new offensive coordinator for Mike McDonald's Seattle Seahawks.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: What do you think the Sea the forty nine Ers
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: need to do now to catch up to the Seahawks,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: because for many years it was what do the Seahawks
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: need to do to catch up to the forty nine ers,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: And now the Seahawks are everyone's hunted. Where are they
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: viewed in the Bay Area?
• 59:45
  Speaker 9: You know what they They and the Rams both did,
• 59:48
  Speaker 9: and the forty nine ers still haven't really completely caught up.
• 59:51
  Speaker 9: Some's due to injury, but some's just due to not
• 59:54
  Speaker 9: drafting or whatever. I'm not a big free agent guy,
• 59:57
  Speaker 9: but they went into free agency and got guys like
• 59:59
  Speaker 9: Hargrave and and so forth, and they were just kind
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 9: of filling holes that way. But you know, Trent Williams
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 9: is not going to be around forever. Colt mckibbitt's is
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 9: okay on the outside. The interior of the offensive lines
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 9: not good at all, especially for what they want to do,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 9: which makes what McCaffrey did even that much more amazing.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: And then the.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 10: Defensive line, even though with the.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 9: Injury to Nick bos who's had a couple of those
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 9: now and may not I know what he did in
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: the first game against the Seahawks last year, but he
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 9: may not be quite to that level anymore. He's had
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: a ton of injuries. Mickel Williams, we still don't know
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 9: what he is. They've got some free agents on the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 9: defensive line. My point, in a long winded kind of
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 9: away Greg and Jess is that they're not in the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 9: trenches what they were.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: They used to be a behemoth.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 9: They used to punch teams in the mouth, and now
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 9: that's what Seattle is, you know, And I think Seattle
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 9: keep adding to it.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 9: I don't think they can deal with Anthony Bradford for
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 9: too much longer. But I mean that's Their defensive line
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 9: is the best in the league. Their offensive line punishes people.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 9: You're by the end of the game, you're just like
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 9: no more Like as that Super Bowl went on, as
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 9: I was watching, I.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 10: Was thinking to myself, they're just gonna wear them down.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 9: That's what they do to everybody. And the Niners used
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 9: to do that and they got away from it. You know,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 9: Trent Williams they got from Washington's the first round pick.
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  Speaker 9: Other than that, they just haven't put the resources into
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  Speaker 9: the offensive line with Seattle, that was their problem for
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  Speaker 9: a long time. And then the defense. They're trying, but
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  Speaker 9: it's just very, very difficult. And they've what they've done too,
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  Speaker 9: is they've gotten older.
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  Speaker 4: They owe a lot of people money.
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  Speaker 9: They're still going to have issues, not like last year
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  Speaker 9: where they almost were paying guys one hundred million dollars
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  Speaker 9: to not.
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  Speaker 4: Play for them.
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  Speaker 9: But it's the offensive defensive lines. And when the Rams
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: realized that after the forty nine ers pushed them around
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 9: for a long time, they fixed their offensive line. Somehow
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 9: they got better after Aaron Donald retired.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: Maybe they get better. That's a stupid statement by me.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 9: But they went into the defensive line and they spend
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  Speaker 9: a bunch of money on it and a bunch of
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  Speaker 9: resources on it, and all of a sudden you're looking
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 9: at Jared Versu and Fisk. And then their offensive line
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  Speaker 9: got big and mean. So they can run the ball.
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  Speaker 9: And I think that's where Seattle is ahead of the
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 9: forty nine ers, is that they can play bullyball. And
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 9: all the forty nine ers want to do that, they
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  Speaker 9: just don't have the personnel to do it.
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  Speaker 2: My how times changed. Seven months ago, it was can
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks ever get as physical as the forty nine
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: ers in the Rams that the line screw. Now you
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: guys are looking up at the Seahawks, but I know
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: it's crazy.
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  Speaker 9: Seriously, for the longest time, it was like, God, Seattle
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 9: never addresses their offensive line. And but I mean that
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  Speaker 9: Super Bowl, it's just I mean, that's all.
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  Speaker 10: They can give the MVP to a bunch of different guys.
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  Speaker 10: But I mean, I guess you can't give.
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  Speaker 4: It to five and what they do.
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  Speaker 9: Dallas gave it to Randy White and Harvey mart and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 9: you can split it. And I almost thought that they
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 9: should do that because they were so dominant. But I mean,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 9: the whole story of the game was how dominant they
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 9: were on the defensive side, but certainly on the offensive
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  Speaker 9: tide too. So that's where Seattle has it on everybody.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 9: That's where I think Seattle, the Rams win, Philly won
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 9: their championships.
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  Speaker 10: They look at the offensive defensive line.
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  Speaker 4: In Philly or you just mentioned the Lions. Their offensive
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  Speaker 4: line is really really good.
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  Speaker 9: They you know, they need to get some help on
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: the defensive line. But those teams that were dominant and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 9: are dominant in the NFC, which is much tougher in
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 9: the AFC, you can trace just about everything back to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 9: how dominant their offensive and defensive lines are.
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  Speaker 2: John, I'm told you like the Seahawks more than ever
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: because you won my on them. Is that true?
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  Speaker 4: One hundred percent true?
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  Speaker 10: So you know what I did so before that, before.
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  Speaker 4: The Niners in Vegas.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 9: I'm walking over to the to the to the leads
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 9: and there, and I thought, you know, I can I
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 9: can do this. I'm just thinking maybe a member and
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 9: I put a bunch of MVP and dumb stuff down.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: Of course, didn't win to Dine, and then for.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 9: Some reason, the Seahawks just did it a totally different way.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: I did one. My best one was I did a just.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 10: Any touchdown, any defensive touchdown.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 9: I thought it was gonna be more for DeMarcus Lawrence,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 9: but I did any defensive touchdown. I did Barner to score,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 9: which I thought was gonna be on a one yarder,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 9: and I even up the Seahawks number passed the four
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 9: and a half.
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  Speaker 4: And uh, let's just say I bought my wife dinner.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: You know that was not Yeah, it was just it
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: was just pure luck.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 9: I mean, I've lost a thousand of those, so believe me,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 9: I'm still underwater on this stuff. But but that one
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 9: was one where I was like, hey, that that might hit,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 9: and it actually did so.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: But I thought Barner was going to score.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 9: On you know, the tish putcher whatever they call it,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 9: the barnyard. Yeah, that didn't, so I didn't exactly have
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 9: it right, but the bets don't. So yeah, I was
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 9: pretty I was a Seahawks fan for a couple hours there.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 9: I have to one hundred I would never admit that
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 9: here in the Bay Area and it's probably gonna get back,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 9: but I for about two hours there when I was
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 9: having dinner with my wife and that was purchased by
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 9: the Seahawks.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: Essentially, I felt pretty good about things, and even yeah.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: The Bay Area's biggest Seahawks fan, John Long joining us
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: to be all we'll have that out in about five
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: minutes time. Don't worry about that. I just did. Thanks John,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: You'll talk to you next Tuesday to talk due John Lunn.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: I've noted him for decades since he was at KMVR
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: and I was in the bey Aer covering the Raiders,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: joining us in the Beacon plumbing hotline giving us some
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: insight into Brian Flurry and we underline the fact that
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: he has never been a play caller at any level,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: the run game coordinator who had input on Kyle Shanahan
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine Ers game plans this past season.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: That was Fleurri's first year of seven on Shanahan's staff,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: but first year as the run game coordinator, but not
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: a play caller, not even in the preseason. So that's
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: one of the twists of Brian Fleury coming in to
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: be the new offensive coordinator for the Seahawks, a first
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: time to play caller in the NFL this coming season.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Lots of texts coming in about the Mariners, about the Seahawks,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: about Kenneth Walker. We'll get to those next. On ninety
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  Speaker 2: three point three KJRFM, Welcome back Greg Bell and Newstrivine
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  Speaker 2: and for Ian Furness with Jessamin McIntyre. Here on the
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• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: sunny and nice wherever you are listening, maybe on the
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  Speaker 3: I got a little hail earlier when I went to
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: get a coffee down here. It was down here, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was right up fifteenth. Oh man, it was hail
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  Speaker 3: and sunshine.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, does a rainbow happen in Hale?
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  Speaker 2: That's in his low forties here in Seattle, So I
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: guess that's cold enough. They were talking about snow yesterday
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  Speaker 2: or last night.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, well we just get these weird shavings of
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: clouds that come off the mountains and you never know,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: you never know.
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  Speaker 2: I have ignored all the last two hours, the fact
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  Speaker 2: that it's the Cracking Ticket Tuesday, and you've heard the
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  Speaker 2: sounder and ever it fits you.
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  Speaker 3: We have had plenty of winners, well, plenty of callers,
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  Speaker 3: I should say, two winners, so thank you to both
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  Speaker 3: Jeremy and Jordan. Jeremy was our one, our hour one
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  Speaker 3: winner and our hour two winner was.
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  Speaker 6: Jordan.
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  Speaker 5: So those are in.
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  Speaker 3: You guys are going to watch the Crack and take
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  Speaker 3: on the Carolina Hurricanes on March third.
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  Speaker 2: They're so well trained on this station that they don't
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  Speaker 2: even need us to it. Just don't even remind them.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to call in to know because they know
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  Speaker 3: they know, and also, you know, it is actually a
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  Speaker 3: really lucky thing to get to go to. I have
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: been to a handful of Cracking games as a fan,
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  Speaker 3: and it's wonderful.
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  Speaker 5: It's so much fun.
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  Speaker 3: And the seats that we have are really good. Really,
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  Speaker 3: the ones that we give away really good. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know the section number. I know is that the last
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  Speaker 3: one of the last winners last month said they were
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  Speaker 3: setting two rows behind Bill Burr.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, so yeah, I would just say that they're they're
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  Speaker 5: pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: You would expect a station to give away like three
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  Speaker 3: hundred level knows when one there's not.
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  Speaker 5: A bad seat.
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  Speaker 2: Is actually pretty good there, it's really good.
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  Speaker 3: Two though, we are in the lower bowl when we
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: give these tickets away. And also you have four more
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: chances to win the rest of the day.
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  Speaker 2: Every hour you'll hear the sounder one time every hour
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  Speaker 2: from three to seven on Dick Fame and Dave Softie
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  Speaker 2: Moller Show. They are at the Krack and Community Ice
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  Speaker 2: plecks at Northgate. Why because the crack And are practicing today.
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  Speaker 2: They're getting back from their week or so off from
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: the Olympic break. All the three Kracking players are there
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: or scheduled to be there today at the practice, which
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: is why Softie and Dick are there. It's only Philip
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: Grubauer of Germany the bull tender and Coppocco and Eli
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: told Finland that are at tournament. So Finland's the four seed.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: It advanced with Canada the United States into the knockout
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: round that begins tomorrow and the men the women again
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: for hockey is Thursday morning our time. I think it's
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: ten ten am Canada versus the US women for the
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  Speaker 2: gold medal in the Milan Olympics.
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  Speaker 5: I mean they're going to boat race right well.
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  Speaker 2: Canada, that would be they beat them. They shut them out,
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  Speaker 2: which no one had ever done in Olympic play in
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: the opening round the US did.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'd have to go back through history with
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: women's hockey to see how historic. I mean, obviously they
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: have a lot of history which they're crushing right now.
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  Speaker 3: But I wonder if they're going to even make more
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: in the gold medal match.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that of course they think. Canadians, of course, think
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: that's a birthright for them to win any hockey gold
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: medal men women anywhere played, and the US took it
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: to them in the preliminary around the US women did.
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  Speaker 2: The US men and the Canadian men are in a
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: courligion to play Sunday morning for the gold medal in
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: the men's Olympic tournament in Milan. They are the one
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  Speaker 2: and two seats. Canada's won and been more impressive through
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: the first two three games of the play in a
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: round where the US finally had a complete game, beating
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  Speaker 2: Germany five to one. On Sunday just when the tex
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  Speaker 2: line is lighting up.
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  Speaker 3: It is, I know, and I do appreciate everyone who's
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: writing in about how good those tickets actually are those
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: who have won before. Marcus, a loyal listener, says that
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  Speaker 3: the tickets he has tickets for the game coming up
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  Speaker 3: on the twenty eighth, and he said they're even better
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: than the other ones that he has won.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, we do. And also Keith, our loyal listener,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: love hearing mister Bell. Lucky to have you know, such
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: a pro.
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  Speaker 3: When the mayors in slacker mode, can we just say
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: that Ian has allowed a gosh darn vacation.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: Okay, but Anders, yes, a baby Austin is out there? Really, yes,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: what did happened? I believe it was two days ago.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome.
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  Speaker 3: So congratulations to Anders and we are giving him well
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: deserved time off to spend with Augustina and baby Austin.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: When he was doing the producing for my Friday Night
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: playoff shows that he had one of them, he was
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: a nervous rec looking at his phone. Oh he I
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: mean like, and I knew exactly, and I told him
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: you just get up and go. I'll just wing it
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: and I don't need I'll just I'll figure out the commercials.
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  Speaker 5: My son show me which buttons.
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  Speaker 2: Don't even worry beautiful one.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but congratulations.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: The hers family and Augustina's family is in Argentina and
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: they actually got to be here.
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  Speaker 5: And we're very very happy that that happened. A boy said, yes, yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that wasn't a secret.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, but congratulations, And that's why you might not hear
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: Anders for another week or two. We're giving him as
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: much time as he wants with his budding family.
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  Speaker 2: That's great.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, and here we go, we have let's go two
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: oh six.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: To double dip about Julio, he is still just a kid.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: Edgar didn't. Edgar Martinez didn't hit more than twenty.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: Home runs in the season until he was thirty two
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: years old, and had a Hall of Fame career from
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: thirty two until a retirement. Julio's on pace to crush
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: any numbers that Edgar ever put up, and I would agree.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know of how you feel about the undue pressure.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: I'm using that opinion wise, but undue pressure put on
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: Julio at such a young age.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: Well, the mariorg has created that by giving him a
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty million dollars contract at age twenty one.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, I was right after his first
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: full season in the major leagues. It was, and he
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: was so good so fast that the marriage said, ah,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: let's not even worry about arbitration, let's not worry about
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: let's just get it done now. And that raised the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: expectation level for a team, remember that had still not
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: gotten back to where it needed to be, not even
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: to the playoffs, let alone the League CHAMPI Series at
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: game seven like they were in October. So two hundred
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: and ffty million dollar player on a team that was
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: not making the playoffs. I think that's where the expectations
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: and falling short of it created the pressure on Julio.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: That's my opinion. But pandamlow, could you not money? Yeah? Great,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: but then here come the expectations with it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: What I love to see from him is just how
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: obviously he's such a good center fielder, but the joy
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: he takes in the game, and I think that that
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: is I mean, there's other dollars to be made when
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: it comes to sponsorships, and you have your Gator Aids
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: and Nike's coming along.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: I don't know what his contracts are, but.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: The joy he takes in the game, I feel like
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: really engendered a younger crowd to come in. And they're,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: you know, all of major League Baseball, not just the Mariners,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: are trying to bring in new eyeballs and younger eyeballs,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: and I think he's perfect for that. So I understand
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: the pressure that was put on him to perform. I
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: don't think he has failed in any way.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: It's pretty cool to see a guy who smiles as
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: much as he does.
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  Speaker 5: But he did the hidden ball thing. I was like,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: oh my gosh, he's actually having fun. Yes, he is
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: actually having fun.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: Imagine that.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: I could use so much more of that in my life.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: Sports could use more of that.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: Let's see what once again, Greg, All the compliments coming
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: into you. Great to hear Greg Bell again today. We
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: want him on here all the time. You have no
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: no worries about that while I'm here always Greg. Great
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: to have Greg.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: He's a professional, informed and respectful.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Are those all my wife's cell phone number?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: I have Wendy's phone number actually, so I don't think
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: that's her. I think those are people that do not
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: feel too loyal. I know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you. It's great to be back seeing Christopher
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: kid again and like old times. Yeah, a great time.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I've always have a great time with you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you and yeah, and we will again hopefully this
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: year as we head to New Jersey in December. Yeah.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, the Army Navy game this coming year is in
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: New York, and so they will do with the meadowlands
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know where they'll do it this time.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Should I even bring up the last time? No, I
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: won't bring up the last time. The arm Navy game
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: is a New York and with this station.
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  Speaker 5: Oh gosh, I know what you're talking about and know
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: that of which we do not know.
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  Speaker 2: That's stil if you know, you know? Two at three
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: six says Julio should have an endorsement deal with White Castle.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Is he a white Castle because he loves sliders so much?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, that's actually a pretty good joke.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: I wanted to read the White Castle because of the
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: Ohio and White Castle?
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: Are you a White Castle guy?
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not, because man, they're I don't think they're
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: too healthy and I'm not too good unless it's three
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: in the morning and bar just closed.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like got the only time she eat all
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: I ever would see when I was in college, I'd
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: see I didn't eat it, but I would just see
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: how green See this sack of burgers?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I have no interest.
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  Speaker 2: They are unique, but I wouldn't live on those.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: Unique isn't necessarily great Ohio.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: They have them everywhere and at the Combine. There's one
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: right next to Lucas Oil Stadium, Combine next oh in Indy.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: In Indy, oh And I got a buddy of mine,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: Herbie Tiopi from Covers the Chiefs, has been doing it
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: for decades. He's always trying to drag me that white
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: castle right next to the stadium. And I told him
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: only at about three am after the bar is closed.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: Could I even be tempted to do that?
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: I don't, So I don't eat red meat, and so
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: it really just checks down my temptation food if you will.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: And but fat burger. Have you been to fat?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: I have?
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  Speaker 2: And you know what's great a fat burger. The milkshakes too,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: The burgers and the milkshakes.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 6: That's what.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: So my favorite funniest I would say not favorite, but
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: funniest Mike Leach story was doing the Spring Game and
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: apparently I don't know what they still do, but the
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: whole everyone was it up in Northern Quest Casino, and
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: I think they have a fat burger inside of it.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: And the next day when I go to interview him
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: in the morning, he told me everything that fat burger
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: does to a person.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: I did not need to hear that.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: So sharing of him. The Northern Quest is nowhere near Pullman.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: The year that they did the spring game at Pop
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: POPKINI I believe it is spoke Joe Alby.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, my bads at Bottle but yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: That was when I think I conflated the Seahawks practice
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: game that they did.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: Joe Albi Stadium.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Had a preseason game there back in the seventies at
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Joe Alby.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: Stadium, did they Yeah, they went all the way over there.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: They once had a game. They once had a joint
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: practice in preseason game at Portland State under Chuck Knox. Wow,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: that had been their last.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: That's quite the journey for a preseason game.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: They used to do preseason game. I remember the Jets
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: and the Packers doing a preseason game at Camp Randall
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: Stadium in Madison. Before the NFL owners think thought extortion
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: and let's put regular season prices on preseason games and
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: make it part of the season ticket package. Teams used
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: to play at neutral sites or college stadiums for preseason
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: game and then NFL owners and no, no, no, we're
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: gonna monetize this.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: We're gonna make money.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: We're gonna make this part of the season ticket package,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: and we're gonna charge ninety dollars for parking. We charged
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: fifty dollars for hot dogs. And yeah, it used to
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: be you go Fawcett Stadium in Canton or.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: That actual affordable way for people to engage their team.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: Like five bucks.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's awesome.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: It wasn't that long ago. Nah, they don't do that anymore.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: Well, well, uh, here we go two to six.
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• 1:17:52
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• 1:17:57
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• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: We appreciate that two US six.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Two six said which group had a better game in
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl Seahawks defense, the Seahawks special teams. Fivefield
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: goals for Mike Dixon or excuse me, Bill Dixon was
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: the punter Jason Myers is what it should say. Oh,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: fivefield goals, that's a Super Bowl record. People asked me
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: I had an MVP vote. There were only sixteen media
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: members who got an MVP vote for the game. The
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: NFL asked me to be one of them. I didn't
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: even consider Jason Myers because I voted for Devin Witherspoon.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: I was going to go for Derek Hall until Witherspoon's
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: sack fumbled at Newelsh returned for a touchdown. But I
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: thought it would be symbolic important in telling of the
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: game to give a defensive player the MVP award. It's
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: only happened six times in sixty Super Bowls.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: Macolm was one at Malcolm Spence. That's right, yeah, and so,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: but that was just very different.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was a nod that year to the
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: number one offense in the history of the NFL, Peyton
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: Manning and the Broncos getting absolutely bushwhacked by the Seahawks
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: forty three eight. And that's the same kind of thinking
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: I was thinking in the press box during the fourth
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: quarter of this past Super Bowl, let's vote it to
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: a defensive player.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 6: So I was going to give to Derek Hall.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: And then when Widerspoon's play happened, I said, Okay, Devin Witherspoon,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: I get why Kenneth Walker was the MVP, But to me,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: that's a statistical awarding. That's just looking at the statue
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: and said, oh he had the biggest numbers.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 5: Well don't they vote on it? And then like the
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: third quarter.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: They used to now they now it used to be Yeah,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: it used to be a paper ballot. I told this
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: story before Super Bowl forty nine in the Desert. Chris
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: Matthews was going to be the MVP if the Seahawks
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: had won the game. Do you remember that name?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: I remember the play.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: College foot Canadian football refugee two touchdowns in the Super
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: Bowl and had the Seahawks won because they had collected
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: the ballots with about ten minutes left in the game,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Chris Matthews was going to win. Back then, it was
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: paper ballot. If the Seahawks win, who's your MVP. If
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: it's the Patriots win, who's your MVP. Now they've done
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: it electronically, you text or you email and as soon
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: as the game ends, and in fact, the NFL PR
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: guy was saying, Hey, Greg, what's your who's your MVP
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: as the game was ending, so it's instantaneous at the
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: end of the game. Well that's better, but I did.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: I went up to Devin Witherspoon and Walker Aff again saying,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: by the way, I voted free for MVP. I thought
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: the defense. Did you really like him? He went through
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: a little. Next, what is up next? We're not doing
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: trost Dog? Yes we are?
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: Are?
• 1:20:26
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• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: Moll power of technology and rg I can actually do
• 1:20:32
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• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: You'll hear from them at the Puck Palace and Cracking Headquarters.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: Next A ninety three point three k JRFM, Welcome back,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell, the News tribuneing for Ian for Ness. Jessen
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: McIntyre is in the producer's booth and I was just
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: informed to it is your birthday. Happy birthday to Jesssemin.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: She did not want me to know. Yeah, what the hell?
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: She hit it from all of.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: Us, I know who knew.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: God geez, that's a big one too, the big six O.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: Come on, I needed I thought you were gonna get
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: me one.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 11: Yeah, known as your birthday. I would have bought you
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 11: a damn gift for crying out loud.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: Thanks to the six O three on the text line
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: for that text line, the most useful thing I've gotten
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: on that all days. This is your birthday.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 11: Hey, that machine is good for a lot of things. Greg,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 11: come on, give it a break, knowing the piss out of.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: You is one of them. By the way, it's been
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: very complimentary of me and wons we Happy birthday, Jess,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Happy freaking birthday to Jessemine Marcandur twenty four
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: years young today and then she gets away this weekend.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: It'll be awesome. Good for her, My buddy, Bye, what
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: are You're out at Puck's with the whole team's there
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: minus Grubauer and Cocko and told it right?
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 11: Uh correct? Because the big o was bounced today by Mark.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 11: I assume that he's on his way home by the
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 11: way from Italy. But yeah, four guys aren't here. The
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 11: rest of the boys are on the ice behind us
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 11: right now. Lane Lambert's gonna stop by after practice around
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 11: four thirty. We'll see what kind of mood he is in,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 11: by the way, But practice ends today, But good to
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 11: see the guys back on the ice and they play
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 11: a week from tomorrow and the final twenty six game
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 11: stretch of the NHL season, So loss to talk about
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 11: with him. Actually, man, I remember back in the preseason
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 11: he was talking about Joey to Cord kind of being
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 11: the undisputed number one guy in NAT for the crack
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 11: and then Philip Grubauer decides to rise from the dead, right. Yeah,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 11: so that's that's a question mark. You know, if they
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 11: if they had a must win game tomorrow, who's in goal.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 11: So we'll talk to Lane about all that and more
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 11: at about four thirty this afternoon from the thirty two
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 11: bar and grille.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: Did he give his skates and gloves and sticks and
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: let you get out there?
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: Me?
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 11: No, I want nothing to do with that. No, no,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 11: my my, My hammies and lower back are already soreing off.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 11: I don't need to be bouncing off the ice. Man,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 11: I'm fifty two years old. Man, those days are over, buddy.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: Please don't tell me that you you were one of
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: the ones who reads an ESPN report that the Seahawks
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: are unlikely to franchise tag Kenneth Walker and crazy news.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 11: What I saw the tweet from Schefter. I mean the
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 11: first thing that I thought of, Well, they're not. They're
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 11: not looking at tagging him because they're gonna work a
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 11: long term deal.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: Out and it's gonna be better that it freaking and half.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 6: Well, first thing I thought of.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: The closer he gets to free agency, the more he's
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: gonna be enticed to. Yes. Yeah, so the days are ticking,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: and that's what makes you nervous. It's March eleventh, is
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: that right, Greg? Yeah, March eleven is when they can officially. Now,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: March ninth is when you can start negotiating. Oh, that's
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: the legal tamming. That's correct, right, March ninth.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 11: So there's an oxymoron which is the most ridiculous thing
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 11: ever in the English language, legal tampering.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: So his agent, David Canter, a full stealing David Canter.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: They're going to talk to other teams well before March ninth.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks clock is ticking. But frankly they've had months
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: and months to do it.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 11: And of course, of course, well let me ask you this,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 11: what would you say, I'm the opposite of a Han Solo.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 11: I want you to give me the odds, all right,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 11: Han Solo, and I want the I want the odds,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 11: give me the odds. What are the odds of him
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 11: coming back, would you say eighty percent, seventy five percent?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: You tell me maybe forty? Really because and I'm thinking
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: it from his perspective, Man, I'm thinking it from his perspective.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: He got put in a job share in his contract year.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, and his he fired his agent right the
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: week of the NFC Championship game, hired a new agent.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: You know he didn't do that for the NFC title game.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: He did that for what's the up? Now?
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: Do you think he's pissed? You think, and I's pissed.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: I have strong reason to believe that from someone who
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: else I just think see the cal Fox. I think David,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: But I think I think his agent saying, man says,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: you had your chance, you had him for four years,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: and you haven't come up to him with anything. We've
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: talked about why.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't think he was hurt.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: He was hurt up until this year. And the seas
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: will say that did the job show so he could
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: play all seventeen right, and then he kicked ass in
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: the final six games of the year. And now the
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: guy deserves a deal and I hope.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: He gets it.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: And the other thing that complicates that Dave is. They
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: didn't count on zach Shermony being out for eight toys exactly.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 11: Yeah, so if he walks opening day, whoever that is, again,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 11: still have two new running backs.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: I mean maybe, I mean look, I mean the Jets
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: have money.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe maybe Canine goes to the Jets and Bristol
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: comes here.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Well he got it to Bucks today.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: Well let's see, we're gonna Yeah, Brandon Donovan was on
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: with Chuck and Buck and that Jackson tells me it
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: was a really really good conversation.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 11: And when Chuck and Buck have a really good conversation,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 11: we got to replay it because it's like it's like
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 11: seeing a VCR if you just don't see it very often. Yes,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 11: it's like a comic. We got we gotta do it.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: So we're gonna do that about three point thirty today.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 11: Bryan Schmetzer will start as weekly with us Tonight at
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 11: five forty five, Bucky from Peoria, John Wilner jumping on
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 11: the radio show, Lane Lambert coming on the radio show,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 11: and we'll obviously talk about this canine situation that's developing here.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: That's a lot, man, You think you got four hours
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 11: Well, what's gonna be longer our show, our commute back
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 11: home because we're up.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 6: In Northgate by the same time.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: Enjoy that, all right man. Thanks to Dave, Softy Maller
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: and Dick Feann, are gonna be live for you for
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: the next four hours at the Cracking Ice backs, Greg Bell,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: the Newstrey and saying thank you for the last two days.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go get lost. You won't be able to
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: find me until next week, maybe next month. Jessamin McIntyre
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: will be here tomorrow though she'll have Mike Betton. He'll
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: be joining the next two days. Thanks for listening. Appreciate
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: all the kind words.