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Preparing for the Worst | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: My name is Jim. This is germ Warfare, the Battle
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  Speaker 1: of Ideas. Okay, we are recording. Man, it's been a while,
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: James Walton, thank you for joining me in the trenches.
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  Speaker 2: Germ Man. A whole new man, it sounds like, well,
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: at least half a new man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit sick at the moment, so you
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: can year my voice. I've got a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: head cold.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's right. Well, I spent the last
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: four days, no minus one day, like, just roasting in
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  Speaker 2: the August North Carolina sun all day. So I'm a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of a sheet of what I once was.
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  Speaker 2: I'm definitely on the recovery.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's winter yet. Maybe that's the reason some
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  Speaker 1: people might say I have COVID, But I don't believe
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  Speaker 1: in that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you don't look like you have COVID or
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  Speaker 2: anything like that. I wouldn't even have known you were
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  Speaker 2: sick unless you said it, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to hope that you'll do the heavy
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  Speaker 1: lifting you and save me from talking.
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  Speaker 2: I'll do my best, man, I'm pretty good at yap,
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  Speaker 2: and so it shouldn't be too much of an ask.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, you and I have been chatting for years and
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  Speaker 1: we've never met. I really hope that that will change
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  Speaker 1: in the future. You're one of the good guys.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, Wow, it's so wild that you say that,
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  Speaker 2: because one of my buddies at Prepper Camp this year
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  Speaker 2: handed me this. If I wouldn't ruin the whole broadcast,
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  Speaker 2: I show you, but he got me this big giant
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  Speaker 2: Captain American poster and he was like, that's you.
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  Speaker 1: Dude.
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  Speaker 2: It's so weird to hear you say you're one of
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  Speaker 2: the good guys, but you appreciate that. It's huge compliment,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I don't know. I'm just doing things every
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  Speaker 2: single day consistently trying to make the Prepper Broadcasting Network
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  Speaker 2: what it deserves to be, and you know, be a
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  Speaker 2: good dad, be a good guy. I guess it's working.
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  Speaker 1: But that's why I think you're one of the good guys,
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  Speaker 1: because you you focus on the things that matter, the
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  Speaker 1: circle of influence, the stuff that you can actually change.
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  Speaker 2: The whole secret of life is that, man, you get
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  Speaker 2: twenty four hours and you can do what you want
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  Speaker 2: with it. For the most part. You know, even if
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  Speaker 2: you got to cut eight hours for work, you can
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  Speaker 2: still fit stuff into work, you know. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: my son is fifteen now, and one of the big
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  Speaker 2: things I want to convey to him is just that, like,
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  Speaker 2: let's figure out what the perfect day looks like and
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  Speaker 2: try to make life just a replica of that over
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  Speaker 2: and over again, you know, and that that's the best
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  Speaker 2: you can do most of the time.
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  Speaker 1: One of my regular guests on my show is a
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  Speaker 1: South African. His name is Simon Roush, and he represents
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  Speaker 1: an exit strategy group here in South Africa should a
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  Speaker 1: civil war or civil unrest breakout and.
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  Speaker 2: To get out of the continent or just to get
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  Speaker 2: out of South.
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  Speaker 1: Out of the country. Right. So it's all to do
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  Speaker 1: with but it's all effectively prepping. That's why I'm telling
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  Speaker 1: you that. So it's about gold and silver and where
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  Speaker 1: to hide it and roads and you know, quite literally
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  Speaker 1: exit strategies, right sure. Yeah, And of course nobody wants that,
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  Speaker 1: But the whole point of prepping is just in case.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, every day things happen that we don't want,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I just came out of
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  Speaker 2: western North Carolina over the weekend. And if you told
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  Speaker 2: those people, if you told those people what was it
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four or five years ago. If you said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: one of the strongest hurricanes you could ever imagine is
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  Speaker 2: going to work its way up to the United States
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  Speaker 2: through the Appalachian Mountains, and it's going to smash your
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  Speaker 2: town in a way that you've never like apocalyptic scenes, right,
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  Speaker 2: you would never believe it. They would never believe it.
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  Speaker 2: And what's happened in and that area is total decimation.
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  Speaker 2: And now they're in the rebuild. But when you get
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  Speaker 2: up there and you talk to a lot of those people,
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  Speaker 2: you run into a lot of preppers by nature, and
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  Speaker 2: you see that you know, a lot of people weren't prepared,
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  Speaker 2: but many people were, and a lot of the rescue
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  Speaker 2: efforts and all that kind of stuff comes from preppers.
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  Speaker 2: You know, FEMA didn't really do much up there. There
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  Speaker 2: was some bandits up there that showed up or ten
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  Speaker 2: and they were going to do good. The locals who
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  Speaker 2: were prepared really made the difference when it came to
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  Speaker 2: that they were rescuing people by mule I think it was,
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  Speaker 2: and taking supplies by I want to say it was mule,
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  Speaker 2: but now I think it wasn't mule. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was another animal. Lamas something like that. I can't remember,
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  Speaker 2: but it was, you know, it was the locals in
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  Speaker 2: their preparedness that really made the difference. So to your point,
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  Speaker 2: your guy's got the right idea, because it will be
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  Speaker 2: the people around you and you who can make the
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  Speaker 2: difference in in the disaster nobody wants, because nobody wants
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  Speaker 2: the disaster to begin with.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you need a circle of influence and you need
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  Speaker 1: to know what that circle of influence is. The things
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  Speaker 1: that you can change right now.
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  Speaker 2: Oh sure, yeah, yeah, I mean at the closest, the
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  Speaker 2: most intimate level, Like I always say, lights, water power,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I mean, it's almost inevitable
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  Speaker 2: no matter what the situation is. If there's some kind
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  Speaker 2: of emergency to disaster, everybody shrinks down the lights, water
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  Speaker 2: power like it's dark. We're going to get thirsty. We
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  Speaker 2: need to get the word out, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: We need to understand what's going on, and we may
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  Speaker 2: need to power some kind of climate control or something
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  Speaker 2: along those lines, because maybe it's the dead of winner
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  Speaker 2: or you know, summer heat, that kind of thing. But
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  Speaker 2: if you can, if you can affect those things almost
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  Speaker 2: immediately in a disaster, then I feel like you're you're
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  Speaker 2: really on top of a lot of people in terms
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  Speaker 2: of restarting the engine and maybe being helpful also.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the advantages of living in South Africa
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  Speaker 1: is that you're forced to prepare. For example, guys got
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  Speaker 1: to do power. Yeah, right, Electricity is one. It's one
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  Speaker 1: of those things that we have very little of. But
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  Speaker 1: by the way, do you know what we in South
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  Speaker 1: Africa had before candles electricity? Oh god, that is phenomenal.
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  Speaker 1: I mean to give an example. Right, So in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three, that was one of our worst years electricity.
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  Speaker 2: Let we're talking to you was what it was an
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  Speaker 2: eye opening time. You're telling me about the rolling blackouts and.
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  Speaker 1: Every it was bad. This year has has actually been
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  Speaker 1: probably one of the better years we've had in the
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  Speaker 1: last ten years.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good sign. What's the cause? More power or
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  Speaker 2: less people? Less power demand? What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Ah, that's a discussion for a different day. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a I think it's a bit of design and
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  Speaker 1: a bit of emergence. I think we are underpowered quite
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  Speaker 1: literally in terms of power stations. But we also have
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  Speaker 1: the global agenda of removing coal and nuclear and and
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  Speaker 1: you know, forcing everybody to use sonar panels and wind
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  Speaker 1: turbines and that doesn't work on a marave. That is
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  Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, I've been studying maps of the US and different
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  Speaker 2: features and different military targets and this kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And I didn't know it, but we have ninety plus
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  Speaker 2: active nuclear power plants in the United States. How many
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  Speaker 2: nuclear emergencies have you ever heard of in the United States?
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  Speaker 2: I think it was just five mile three mile, which
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  Speaker 2: was a human error. But just to wrap your head
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  Speaker 2: around that, you know, this didn't happen yesterday. These things
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  Speaker 2: are built like seventies, you know what I mean, eighties.
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  Speaker 2: I almost can't think of a better resume than that.
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  Speaker 2: In South In South well no, sorry, not South Africa.
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  Speaker 2: In Africa, there is I think only one nuclear pastation
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  Speaker 2: and that's yeah, about about an hour's drive from my house.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine if you had five. The problem is is the
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  Speaker 2: shucking candles out the window.
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  Speaker 1: It's the green lobby. Is one of the major causes
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  Speaker 1: of us not being able to build more.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, everybody needs more. I really believe in it.
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  Speaker 2: I really do, only just from the sheer fact of like,
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  Speaker 2: if there's so many issues with coal. There's so many
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  Speaker 2: issues with oil, if there's so many issues with solar,
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  Speaker 2: there's so many. Like you look around it at nuclear
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  Speaker 2: powers resume of like it's been here, it's been doing
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  Speaker 2: its thing. It's been powering American homes for fifty years
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  Speaker 2: almost now, Like, where's all the tragedy where Fukashima only
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  Speaker 2: blew up because we had an earthquake. Well it didn't
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  Speaker 2: even blow up and meld it down because we had
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  Speaker 2: an earthquake so big it shook the planet off its axis,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, we can't help that.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing we could have done to prepare for that.
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  Speaker 2: But it turns into a nuclear emergency.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, I think it was around sixteen
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  Speaker 1: thousand people who died at Fukushima. And it wasn't because
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  Speaker 1: of the power station. It was because of it, because
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  Speaker 1: of that, it was because of that title wave that
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  Speaker 1: came in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what killed everybody. Yeah, that was a big one.
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  Speaker 2: There's a great show on about that. I wish I
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: could tell you the name of it. I wrote a
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  Speaker 2: whole article about it about three four years ago, but
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: before I wrote it, I watched the whole show. It
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  Speaker 2: was like a literal fiction, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: like a cinematic show, not a documentary. And it's really good,
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  Speaker 2: be really good to see how the whole thing went down.
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  Speaker 1: Getting back to what I was saying about electricity. In
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, we had I think close to fifty
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  Speaker 1: percent of the entire year of rolling blackouts of around
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  Speaker 1: eight hours per day. So that sources you. But that
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  Speaker 1: forces you to make alternative plans. And yes that is true,
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  Speaker 1: and yes that's true. That's what does mean. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: does mean you look into things like wind and solar
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  Speaker 1: and generators and whatever else. Those things are great on
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  Speaker 1: a micro level and they can certainly help in your home.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, having solar panels on the roof is a
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  Speaker 1: great way to get off the grid. So do people
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  Speaker 1: burn gas like crazy? And gas generators there like like
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  Speaker 1: like once the rolling power rolling blackouts happened, did you hear,
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  Speaker 1: like everywhere and everybody's running generator colluding? Yep, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: This is Africa. We are very behind, mate, we.
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  Speaker 2: All not you guys. I'm not picking on Africa. I'm
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  Speaker 2: picking from South Africa. I'm picking on the mentality of
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  Speaker 2: the left wing. That's like, we can really we can.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just not generate power less power to tell everybody
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: turn their lights out, like we're not going to pull
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  Speaker 2: on rip chords and start burning diesel or petrol or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean to power our house. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: it's this whole dream of people don't need power unless
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: they're rich enough and loud enough to fight for the
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  Speaker 2: green lobby, because then they'll have the lights on and
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: fly in private jets all over the whole world. Right,
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  Speaker 2: you've seen that.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing though, is that, I mean, my point
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  Speaker 1: is that we are forced here to think about preparing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're everything, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly right, that's my point. I mean, if you
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: live in a first world country that has everything and
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  Speaker 1: there are no issues, and suddenly your power goes out,
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  Speaker 1: you fall apart.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, Oh yeah, yeah, we see that in America still
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  Speaker 2: all the time.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It is one of those things when I was little man,
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  Speaker 2: power will go out, We just go outside, talk to
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  Speaker 2: the neighbors. Didn't matter what time, three in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody came outside. Wonder how long it'll be. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: If an emp we'd add, no, we'd had no chance.
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  Speaker 2: We don't even know. We didn't sitting there. Wait, one
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  Speaker 2: of these days it's going to turn back on. You know,
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: no cell phones, that old thing. But you're right, without
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  Speaker 2: being pushed a lot of times, and you see it
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  Speaker 2: a lot in America because we're rarely pushed, but without
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  Speaker 2: being pushed a lot of times. People don't just wander
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  Speaker 2: into preparedness unless they were born and raised in a
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  Speaker 2: self sufficient situation, like your kids will be. They'll be
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  Speaker 2: on it because they grew up that way. You know.
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  Speaker 1: Self sufficiency is a big part of getting passed sort
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: of the globalist agendas.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, it's essential the only way we're going to it's
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  Speaker 2: the only way we're going to survive the future. Now,
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: even if you don't have to have it all online,
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: you have to have it all in here or on
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  Speaker 2: the shelf or so you have to be able to
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: recall to it and utilize it. Because we're heading into
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: a world like where convenience, convenience melds into radical addiction
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  Speaker 2: and tyranny, you know what I mean, that's where we're at.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: Like you and I probably grew up in the convenience
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: era where it was like, oh we can get real comfy,
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  Speaker 2: and really this is real. Can convenient. Now it's bleeding
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  Speaker 2: into literal tyranny and addiction, and that's just where we're at.
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  Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with a good mate to mine,
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  Speaker 1: South African who emigrated to Canada. I'm so sad to say,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, of all the places in the world, why
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  Speaker 1: would you go to Canada. Never the less, he's got
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  Speaker 1: the skill set. I'm sure they'll be without power soon too,
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  Speaker 1: keep it up. Never the less, he went. He went
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  Speaker 1: to Canada just over a decade ago, and we still
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: we still speak, and he visits South Africa just about
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: every year to see his family and friends whatever. So
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: we you know, we we're always in contact. But the
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: thing was, the thing you're saying to me is that
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: you get so lazy there because currently everything works.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I see, I see, yeah, Oh yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: you know it's an old adage, right, definitely, just one
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  Speaker 2: of those things. Well, here in America, we love to
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: say good times make soft man. That's the big that's
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  Speaker 2: the big popular one right now, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Or maybe a little less popular than it was two
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  Speaker 2: three years ago, but yeah, you see it. Comfort and
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  Speaker 2: convenience are dangerous, man, They're dangerous if you let them
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  Speaker 2: be dangerous, right if if you don't have self discipline,
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  Speaker 2: then they can be dangerous if you have self discipline.
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  Speaker 2: And it's great, you know, it's a great thing.
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  Speaker 1: We were chatting just last week in fact, about what
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  Speaker 1: we carry on us daily. And yes, he's changed quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit for him, you know, coming from South Africa.
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  Speaker 1: So I have a different set of things that I
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  Speaker 1: keep on me to what he does.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what do you carry on you?
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: I carry all kinds of stuff, man, I I'm gonna
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: throw throw some at you that I'm gonna throw one
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: at you in particular, there's really that really shakes the boat.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: It's good because something like this, which this is probably
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  Speaker 2: my favorite flashlight that I own, of many, Okay, it's
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: the power Tack. It's awesome, like awesome. They had a
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: great marketing campaign where they sent a bunch of them
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  Speaker 2: out to people who did shows like ours. I don't
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: know if you got yours that way or not.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: But I way, nobody cares about sending us stuff because
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: it's too far.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Who really an extra two dollars per ship for shipping anyway.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: One of the big things in DC is always like
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: the flashlight. I gotta no light s one r on
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  Speaker 2: the fridge over there too. That was all the rage.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what this thing costs. Probably somewhere
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: in the ballpark is sixty seventy dollars if you want
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: to get to South Africa, probably like eighty.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Hold on, what's wrong with using the lights on your phone?
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  Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a good one. Here's what
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  Speaker 2: I use.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: What's that? This is a headlamp? Oh sorry, I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: make up from the This.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Is a headlamp that costs You could buy like a
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: three pack or a four pack of these. I think
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: it's doors energizer. You could buy a four pack of
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: those for twenty bucks and everybody in your house has one.
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  Speaker 2: But here's here's what I realized. If I am in
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  Speaker 2: the dark and I have to do something or right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you need your you need your Yeah, put the head
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  Speaker 2: lamp on. You don't look like mister tactical guy Jason Bourne.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: You want to look like. But guess what you got
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  Speaker 2: two hands, which is way better than one hand. Anytime
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: something happens, power outage, something out back in the dark.
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  Speaker 1: This is the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Car breaks down in the dark honey, hold the flash
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  Speaker 2: light while.
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  Speaker 1: I yeah, what I want. The problem with me is
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: that actually mine is not it's not close to me.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually my car. I think your head lamp. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: put one in there too. I got one in there too.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: But I just did follow stuff in my car.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a better thing, you know, in my opinion,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: it's well, it's just through experience, you know, through experience,
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  Speaker 2: I would be dealing with stuff in the dark. This
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: will be sitting on the shelf behind me, and this
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: will be on my head. I'm under the house fixing something.
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  Speaker 2: I'm out the chicken coop dealing with that. This thing
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  Speaker 2: is sitting on the shelf. Because what do I want?
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  Speaker 2: Something I got to hold for when I can have
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: a light on my forehead and just you know, bang
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: away at the problem, get it done.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I have an amazing book. I don't want to show
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: you creaty just all the ones like.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: The Survivor's Guide, the Headlamps. No, I don't know if
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: you can see this, John Cebo, oh, I've seen that.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: That is a good book, man. Yeah, that's a good one.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: That's a good one for sure.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: It's very good.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I'm partial to no grid survival projects myself, but that's
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: because I help break that one. So, but that's a
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: good one. It's a it's a huge topic, man, it
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: really is.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, in South Africa. One of I suppose
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the one of one of the good EDC components is
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: something to do with safety. Now, I mean, I've got
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I've got guns, but I don't like cand guns. If
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I'm being honest, it's just very it's very awkward. But
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I do carry this.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Very nice.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: So it's nice and it's nice and light, and it's cheap,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: and it's always on me. But that's also not just
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: for safety. But it's not just for safety, it's also
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: quite practical. Everybody should have a knife on them.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: What do I get on me today? I'm carrying a
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: smaller curse show. I think it is today. I think
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: this is a curse show.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: But those are expensive.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, no, that isn't a curshow. Actually, that's that
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I carry on a day to day basis.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: That's that Is that a flip open? Yeah?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. So if I'm dropping kids off at school whatever,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: going to be in and out, I'll take that little guy.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I always have a gun, not that I you know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: there's a gun in a conversation. Yeah, that we had
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: about guns.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Though the gun conversation is complicated because.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: A gun is a sweet spot situation, right.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Also a lot of yeah, yeah, exactly, But a lot
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: of people will say, no, but where I live, we
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: can't carry one. Yeah, well what do you mean by that?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Where flowed in many in many countries.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Oh so not necessarily in America, but in many countries
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: because we're like, I don't want to say this out loud,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna say I don't really care. Gun laws
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: are reaching a point in the United States where people
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: are like, we have a second Amendment, so try me
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: on that one, you know what I mean? Like it's
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: they become so restrictive and so silly, and and we've
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: seen so much out of places like Chicago in terms
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: of gun violence. Whether you're not not allowed to carry
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: a gun in Chicago. But anyhow, I bought this about
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: a year ago. This is a fun little guy goes
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: on your belt and this this really is like where
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: a folding knife. A folding knife is, you know, utility
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: and that kind of thing. This is a tool for
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I think, you know what, you know what I mean, like,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: if I'm really concerned about self defense, that's something that's
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: got the ring here. You know, someone can get a
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: knife from you pretty easily with you know, if things
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: go Harry, and they're gonna go Harry, nobody's gonna be like,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna rob you, stab me, you know what I mean,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: You're gonna be wrestling around. But yeah, I think either
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: called like Eagle Eagle Calls or something like this. This
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: is a really like run of the mill Amazon twenty
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: seven dollars with sheath, great little self defense weapon for
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: people who can't carry guns. And I'm telling you right
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: now that thing, it's razor sharp, the blade is small,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the point is long.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: It'll go where you want.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: It to go, if you know where you want it
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: to go, you know what I mean. In a situation like.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: That, someone sent me an advert or sale on AK
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: forty sevens. I don't know if you can see it there.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: But extreme arms, how much are you going for?
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Well, let's do the conversion quicks nine hundred and seventy
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: US dollars more or lest We.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Used to be able to get those for like three
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: fifty four hundred ten years ago. You get AK forty
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: seven for like three fifty four hundred dollars America are fantastic.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: They're good guns. Yeah, I've shot them a lot. They're
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: good guns.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: You can bury them under the ground and take them
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: out again and they'll still shoot. The problem is that
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: they get quite hot, quite quickly. Yeah, they're good guns.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Not a lot of recoil. I was surprised I was
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: shooting at twelve gauge before I shot one the first
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: of twelve gauges. This. Oh no, no, I think they
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: could either. But no, I think the twelve gauge. It's fun,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: but it's got way too much recoil. I don't like that.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: It's just uncessary.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Got a lot of Yeah. Yeah, I'm not looking to
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: have an extended gunfight with a twelve gage in my hand.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: You know you can't mess with a twelve gage.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: That's what you want, right And we sound somebody in
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the house. They're getting hit with pellets.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: And that's happening.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Sound you sound badass. That's true too. I'm not worried
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: about that though. I'm just worried about Pepper and somebody
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: up and leaving them to think about their actions while
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I call the police. You know what I mean. That's
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: why I think the multi tool is so big. The
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: multi tool just has so many you know, answers to things.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: A litleman.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: No, I never buy super expensive multi tools. This came actually,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: this one is my newest one. It came in a
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: backpack that a guy from a company called Lima Tango's
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Survival sent me. And I don't know, when you have
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: kids and you're doing things and school things and work things,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: it just seems like I'm pulling the you know, the
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: screwdriver out of this thing and I don't know, spop
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: bottle opener. That kind of stuff is what gets used
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the most, you know, the rent the flier side gets
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: used a lot. We do fit We do a lot
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: of phishing, so having an extra pair of pliers on
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: hand is good, you know. I don't think that here
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: you go, so we talk about EDC in sticky situations.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I don't have it on me because I don't carry
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: it anymore. It's in my car. But there was something
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: in the prepper world that was really interesting for DC
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: called a silcock key. Do you ever see one of those?
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: It looks like a plus sign in it, Like, yeah,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: you see those. There's like a eleven tools in one.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: You can get out of an elevator, you can get
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: out of a bus, you can get open the water key,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: you can do all these amazing things. I carried it
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: for a long time, never used it, you know what
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I mean? And I just said, uh, you know, I'll
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: keep it in the car. I guess, keep it in
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: the go bag. Stuff like that if we're in one
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: of those kind of situations. But to your point, you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: your DC will change, and I I think that your
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: DC should change. And I think that your DC should
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: change based on what and where you're going and what
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: you're doing, you know what I mean. Like every day
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: is not the same. So to choose the knife and
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: the flashlight and the firearm for every single day of
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: your life, no matter where you're at, doesn't sound like,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: you know, effective to me.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I don't want to carry stuff that pull my pents down.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that. I wear a belt, and I
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I mean you.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Get you get those gun belts that are hard cool,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: but they they're not comfortable.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: No, I don't wear a gun belt. I just wear
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: a belt that looks like a seat belt. I don't
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: know what they're called, but they used to call the belts.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah they work, Yeah, they work. I never have issues.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I carry small guns and big guns. Right now I'm
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: carrying a very big gun. Actually it's a Taurus, and
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. I never good. You gotta
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: have a good holster, you know what I mean. If
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: you're going to carry a gun, you gotta have a
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: good holster. You gotta get like an alien uh what
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: are they called alien wear? That's a computer alien st
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: there's a there's a I got my holsters early and
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I've not really changed so much. And it's this company,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the Alien Holsters. Type in alien holster, you'll find it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: They do great work. Leather backed inside the waistband. You
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: put it on, and you know, nobody can see you
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: have a gun, and you won't, you know, unless you're
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: wearing pants that are so tight you can't believe it,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: you know. But that's where the belt comes in and
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: all that. So you gotta be comfortable because if when
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: it comes to carrying anything, if you're not comfortable, you
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: won't carry it. That's your that's what you've realized. That's
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: why you carry me. You probably did have a time
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: where you carried a bunch of stuff, and you're like,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: this sucks. Stop carrying it. Now you're carrying less, right.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of EDC stuff actually in my car.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I have cash. Yeah, I carry cash in my car
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: in a place where nobody knows looks for where to
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: look exactly. So I mean I can send it to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the car wash and they will never find my cash.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: And I've got a pile of stuff in the car.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: You can't see it. It's all hidden. But I mean,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I've got boxes of matches. I've got fire starters. I've
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: got I've got a fire extinguisher, a little one. I've
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: got stuff it's like liquid stuff that you spray into
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: your into your tires if you get a puncture. Yeah,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: and then I've got that. Yeah. And I've got knives,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: and I've got cloths, all sorts of cloths and medical
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I've got medical stuff also.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. A lot of people in the prepping world will
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: argue that, and this I would too. I think I
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: think this is a belief system and way that I
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: build out my preparedness is if you're away from home,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: then your EDC should at least in some part be
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: able to get you to your second tier preparedness. Which
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: is your car to get you back to your third tier,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: which is your you know, your house, you know, your
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: headquarters of surviving. So outfit in the vehicle for that
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff just makes sense. I mean you could,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: you know, probably live out of.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess it depends on where you live, James.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I think Europeans tend to use a lot of public transports,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: so for them a car good point is less important.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: But I mean here on the African continent, you need
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: a car, and not just a car, you need a
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: four by four. You don't need one, I guess in
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the cities, but I think it's a good idea to
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: have a four by four off road vehicles. I've got one.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got to And so you know that's
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: a good tip on that end is to decide how
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: far away from home you spend most of your time
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: if you're a working person, and then build out your
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: preparedness that's in your car to that distance. And you
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: may be this is like sacrilege, but you may be overprepared,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: like I was a bit over prepared with my my
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: my get home bag for many many years. I had
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: a good home bag. And what I mean one of
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: these things. I started training for a marathon in twenty nineteen,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: and would I would almost run. I'd run like halfway
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: to work while I was training, and I was like,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: this is like seven miles to get halfway here. And
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I started realizing if I just did a full day
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: of walking, I could get home in a you know,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: in a calamity, if my vehicle wasn't working, or if
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I couldn't drive because the roads were damaged, blocked, whatever.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: So I scaled back what I had in my get
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: home bag and turned it into something much lighter, more
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: focused on hydration and mobility. Let's just get home as
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: quickly as possible on foot, because it's probably you know,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: fourteen miles. What you know, you're going to cover five
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: miles probably in an hour and a half two hours.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: If you're moving, you'd be home in three hours. So
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: in my head it was this. In prepping, you always
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: get wrapped up in these fantasies, right, You're always like,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I got to go to the cash, get the AK
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: forty seven out, fight my way home through hordes of zombies,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: heal my wounds as I go. You know, it turns
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: into a big video game. One really you're probably just
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: putting one foot in front of the other and getting home,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: turning the generator on, feeding the family something real quick
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: out of the old pantry, and waiting, you know what
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, for the most part, right.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: So, and I mean under this desk that I'm sitting at,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I've got two backup battery inverta combos.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: They're great. I love them, I really do love them.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I think they're an incredible advancement, you know what I mean.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I think once people realize what they're capable of and
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: what they're not capable of, you can really take advantage of.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: It's first thing I turned on the power outage. I
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: go on right over here. It's thirty three thousand watt.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: It's the first thing I do in a power outage.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: You know, if we want, if we if we need,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: intend to keep business going, then we plug the router
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: into it. And most of the time internet still works. Yes,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: and you know that's it. Then we go to lights,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: we go to entertainment after that and decide whether or
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: not we need the gas generator or not.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: We've you know, we've actually got a couple of gas bottles.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: But you when you guys say gas, you don't mean gas,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: the the the air gas so lean.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: So yeah, you guys are talking gas.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about actual literal gas. They learn about it
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: little gas.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, literal gas like methane or something right, yes, yes, yes, yes,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: which is great for heat and for cooking and for
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: you know other things.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's something be said about it. Do you
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: generate it or is it refilled? It's refilled, so you
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: get propate like a like a refill of it. Yeah,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: that's if we ever get to the point where we
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: can generate our own I'll definitely get in into I
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: know people who do do some things with methane and
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: rotting food and that kind of stuff, and they make
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: their own We also, scared to blow.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Myself up, we also make our own own compost. My
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: wife grows a lot of vegetable that's huge.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's huge.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Man grows many vegetables that that she shares it with
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: families here in our community.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Huge community, baby, that's it. Yeah, canning all that stuff
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: with the extra Yeah, like I said, you start moot. Well,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: the thing that most self reliance books don't tell you,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: most self reliance you know, videos and all that kind
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: of stuff. Is it just starts making life better. You
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: actually start living the life that you're like, Oh, I
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: wanted to live this life anyway, Like I wanted to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: take vegetables to the neighbors and chit chat and say, hey,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: how you doing. I didn't want to live isolated. Uber
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Eats coming, Amazon coming every day. You know, there are
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: two different lifestyles, and we think that the convenient one
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: is the pinnacle of humanity. But it's about ten fifteen
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: years back, you know what I mean, where people were
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: still communal and that kind of thing. So you know,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I always say, we just we've done well, We've done
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: great as species. We just overshot the mark. I think
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: we overshot the mark on technology and advancement and all
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: that for the human beast.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: One of the things that grinds me up the wrong
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: way in both the mainstream and alternative independent space is
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: that people moan so much about the government. Yeah, they
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: complain about the government. It is the age of complaints,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. And it's just constant around it.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: No exactly, and it's just doom screening the whole time.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Oh look, what's happening? Everything's falling apart around us. Okay,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: what are you doing about it?
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: That's it, that's the whole question, that's all. But the
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: problem is, germ. It's hard to get people's attention. Its
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: hard to make money if you're not freaking.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Out unless something bad happens, right, and they don't want to
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: hear it. Oh, suddenly they realized that they should have repaired.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: To done something. Yeah, it's the old grass upper and thing,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, the old ancient sort of thing.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: But yes, outrage cells. Everyone's a critic now, you know
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: what I mean. I grew up went before well, I
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: was in the restaurant industry when the only critics were
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: restaurant critics were largely maybe book and movie critics sparsely.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, I watched as everybody
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: got what was that first one yelp or something like that,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: every one got the ability to become a critic. And
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: now with YouTube, everyone is a critic of everything. But
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: the food critics of my day were experts, you know
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like they were respectable experts who ate
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: all across the world and understood a good restaurant from
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: a bad restaurant. And that kind of thing. Now, just
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: everybody can hop up and go.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: That movie was shit. I didn't like it.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: And here's why, you know what I mean, and it
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: it's turned. I mean, we get on our kids about
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: it all the time. I'm sure you'll do the same
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: once your kids get old enough. It's like, dude, be grateful.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Like it's not very ungrateful for a young American kid
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: who has his hands like capable of touching everything in
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: the universe, because it's part of the culture.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: You know, not everything in DC is well. It should
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: be about safety and survival. James, I, for example, carry
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: a pin and a little notebook on me.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: It's a good one. I've gone through iterations of that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Here's one that I carry all the time. Now. This
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: guy is ah, it's just a little metal tube that
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: has cinnamon what oil, cinnamon oil, toothpicks in it. I've
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: been really digging toothpicks lately.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to eat a bunch of mince,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: and I'm really not a big fan of chewing gum,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: so uh, I don like chem There's something about the toothpick.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: It looks it looks kind of cool. I'm not gonna lie.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: People might I admit it, but I know I look proud.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I get a ten percent boost in coolness when I
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: have a toothpick in I'm sure I like it. I
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: really like the toothpick thing, and it's just one of
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: those things that I carry all the time. It freshens
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: your breath, right, it's a cool little thing. But to
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: your point, yeah, DC should be a little bit about
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: you and your needs and not just like you know,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: some kind of crazy special operative out there in the wild.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I've noticed that if you want to
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: get away from the screen, then you do need and
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: do need things that are going to entice you.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. Well also man, So when I left
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: for prepper camp on Thursday, one of the last things
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I did was hand wrote my wife and two sons
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: some notes. And when I write them notes, I seal
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: them always with wax. I'm just like into that sort
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: of ceiling thing, you know what I mean, with the
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: old the wax ceiling.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: It's so cool. I think it's I don't know if you.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll ever get a note sealed
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: with wax from anyone but me in their life, Like
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: the Actually these are my wives. This is my wife's
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: exclusive set, like she's the only one that gets the
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: blue and the Curse of w for wal. I have
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: another cool one for my kids. But to your point,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: you know, the writing of the handwriting is so rare
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: and you can't buy it. You can't go to Amazon
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: and say, hey, can you send me one of my
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: own handwritten letters sealed with wax for my son for
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: his birthday? And those things really interest me. They really
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: the things that you can't buy, you know what I mean,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: are really interesting these days to me.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: What do you think, James, is the most key thing
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: to carry on you?
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Your cell phone? For sure, it's you know what I mean,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: it's your primary communications method. It's probably most people's primary
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: light source. It's it's your primary source of intel. In
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: most cases, it has every contact that you have in it.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: You know, it's not it's not the sexy answer. But
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: if we're really going to talk about like a nuclear
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: bomb just went off somewhere in the United States, You're
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: not going to shoot it. You're not going to unscrew
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: it with your multi tool, You're not going to shine
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: a light on it. Right, You're gonna go God Jesus,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: let me call you know whoever. I got to get
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: a hold the kids, I got to get you know,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. So, assuming that cell service is
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: still working, and I've had about one event, one emergency
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: event since I've been into preparedness where my cell phone
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: didn't work for a short period of time, and outside
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: of that it's always been operable, you know, So that
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: would be my thing. Keep your cell phone freaking charged
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: up and be you know, be prepared to call the
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: people you need to call and get back together as
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: a family unit from because from there you can do anything.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Well. I mean, I've got three power banks and one
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: of them sits permanently in my car. That's good.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Do you ever have any issues with heat of.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: The power bank? Yeah?
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: No, no, good to know. What do you mean are
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: you saying doesn't heat just like well, it overheat. I
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: don't know, it gets pretty hot your way right, No. Well,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think any hotter than your side, depending on
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: the time of the year. But what I mean is
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: it's not permanently plugged in in the car.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I just know.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Keep that. But you know, it's just batteries heating to
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: a certain temperature. I don't know what like the max
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: temperature batteries. This is just purely for my curiosity. I
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: don't even die because of that. Ohay, it gets out
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: in the car even, you know, just normal summer, like,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: it's probably one hundred and thirty in my car these
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: days when I'm not in it.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you're aware, but
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: cause these days, James have air conditioning.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I understand you're saying you're keeping in there
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: all the time.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: My car, my cars in the garage. I have a garage.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Oh no, oh okay, okay.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: No, my car sits out in the heat goes through
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: the window and it heat turns into a you know, well,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: listen to this.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Listen to this. In South Africa, you you score on
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: your insurance policies if your car is hidden from public
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: view because of high crime.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Makes sense, makes sense. I'm sorry to hear that, but
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: it makes perfect sense.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: So it's better to have your car inside a garage.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, an out of out of side door, I mean
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: the garage door than your car door. Right, and makes sense.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: So when you buy a car. So when you buy
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: a car and you get insurance on it, they ask
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: you if you're parking it outside, yeah, or inside the garage,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: and if it's aside the garage, then the premium goes down.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, that's weird. But on their end, you know,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: it makes sense, makes perfect sense. They look at percentages
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: and risk for a living. That's they do. Somebody gonna
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: rip this thing apart to get inside of it or
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: to drive it away, you know.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Just let's go back to your comment about cell phone
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: being the most important thing to carry. So if you're
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: trying to get off the control grid.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: So this phone is a Android something or other, and
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: my buddy's over at mark thirty seven dot com sell
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: what are called ghost phones. And the ghost phone is
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: simply wiped of your Google operating system and then they
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: put an operating system on it called Graphene, and Graphene
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: is not Google, and the phone is built by them
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: so that you can turn it into a tragging device
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: if you want. You can do everything like you do
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: on a regular phone if you want to, or you
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: can be completely anonymous on it, you know what I mean,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: in large part outside of Google's influence altogether, you know,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: with your location turned off and actually turned off, and
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: those kinds of things, so you know, it's there's a
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: little bit of a learning curve in there. You get
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: your apps from a different place you can't log into
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: like a Google or an I account. And because they
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: have iPhones too, No, they do not have iPhones. I'm
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: sorry they can't because the security is different with the iPhone.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: But you can get you know, you can get your
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Android apps from a different place that won't track you
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: and you know, as long as you don't allow it.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: So you can do a lot with a with a
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: real smart phone that's just created like a ghost phone
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: with a graphene.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: For me, one of the biggest, biggest droll cause of
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: keeping a cell phone on me, especially when I'm driving,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: is the maps. And carrying a physical map is ridiculous.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Oh when you're driving, definitely, if you don't have a passenger,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: it's probably as dangerous as texting, you know what I
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: mean if you think about it. You know, if once
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: you get down to like, do I gotta make a
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: left up here? Do I make it right up here?
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: What map? Map app? Can you use that? Google?
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: So I just got back from a six hour trip
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: and I used a uh it's a an app called
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Magic Earth built on the graphene. Uh, well, I can't
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: show you that. Let me, I can't. Just moving off
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: my house real quick, I'll show you what it looks like.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: It's not populating anything because I just moved it. But
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: you know, this is it. You plug in your destination
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: up top. And so I was headed to I headed
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: six hours south to North Carolina to the the Appalachian Mountains.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't like highway to highway to highway
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and then location. I had to go through the mountains
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. And it got me
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: there no problem. You know, you have to obviously, you
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: have to turn your location on for that to work.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: But it's when you turn your location on and you're
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: not turning it on through Google, it doesn't go. Oh
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: James Walton just turned his location on and he lives
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: here and he drives there and he watches these ads
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: and he likes to watch this on YouTube and do
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: this and do that. The other thing that's amazing is
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: what YouTube. What happens to YouTube when you start to
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: scroll it on a ghost phone because they doesn't know
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: your algorithm, it has no idea what to serve you.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: And there's a whole side of YouTube never gets even
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: seen because it's not good enough for the algorithm. I
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: have a lot of fun on YouTube these days.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Something you didn't think about is that digital prepping is
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: a big part of our lives now.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, and it's only going to get bigger.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if you guys have them there,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: but we have the flock camera. Just the flock camera
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: fanaticism happening in the US right now. It's just this
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: massive surveillance situation that's going down where states are putting
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: up these flock cameras and people are cutting them down,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: and I love it here in this country, dude. And
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: you know, it's just one of those things. It's like
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: there is undoubtedly I'm sure it'll happen in your country
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: because of the crime if it hasn't already. Surveillance is
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: this title wave that's hitting people right now, and people
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: are like, I don't want privacy one way or another.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: You know, I got to work our way back again
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: to that. Everything is mental. Everything builds off the will
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: because you're not going to do anything if you don't
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: have the willpower to do it. You're not going to
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: get out there and garden You're not going to build
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: rain barrels. You're not going to stay in shape, You're
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: not going to shoot, You're not going to learn to shoot.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: You know, everything is discipline and mental. The only reason
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I'm where I am is because mental, Because I didn't
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: come here with special operator skills, you know what I mean.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: I came here with I'm a chef, guitar player, fisherman,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: and they have just worked my way up to where
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I am now, just through will.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Through literally guitar play. Did you say, oh yeah? Man? Sure?
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Teen years old? About thirteen I started playing. I got
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: locked in my house because all my friends are becoming
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: drug addicts, and my mom was like, you can't hang
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: out with them boys anymore. And I just started playing
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: guitar alone. Then I met some bandmates and had bands
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: all through high school and I still play. My son's
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: playing now. I'm so proud he's playing. He's getting good
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: to I've.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Got two guitar yeah, Mustadia, yeah, that's great, the Classic yes,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: And I've got a Taylor Acoustic. Yeah.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I've got an Iban is I think, yeah, an Iban
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: is electric that we don't play as much. And then
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: some cheap acoustic off Amazon. It was like eighty bucks
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: and it works. Man, Yeah, it sings for sure, But
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: guitar is great. Well that's mental by the way, you know.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: And one thing about EDC I think people need to
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: understand is you're human, you know what I mean, So
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: you know, build out your DC, build out your vehicle,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: EDC and preparedness and all that kind of stuff. And
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: and don't don't kill yourself if you go out with
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: your wallet and your phone and your keys one time,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. A lot of a lot
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: of times I see people in the preparedness world who
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: are starting in the preparedness world that really wreck themselves
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: because they didn't follow procedure one time or something like that.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: And it's just especially if you're new, you know what
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, Like you're gonna mess up, You're gonna leave stuff.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: You're also gonna have issues, like like you were talking
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: about GERM, where you start carrying stuff and you don't
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: know you're listening to two guys right now telling you
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: what they carry. You're gonna start carrying stuff and you're
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: gonna go I really don't want to carry this big
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: stupid knife James showed me with the ring on it.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I don't like it, so it'll evolve over time too.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: And comfort is everything in my opinion when it comes
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: to see, if you're not comfortable carrying it, you won't
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: carry it. It's probably the number one reason people don't
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: carry guns, you know what I mean, Because they haven't
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: figured out the right way to carry the gun, or
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: they're scared of it, or they're afraid to offend people
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: with it, you know what I mean. But if you
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: can comfortably carry, you'll carry much more. So I like
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: to apply that to eedc all the time.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: If you're carrying a glock, what is it nineteen? I
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: mean that thing is uncomfortable.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: That's a big boy.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're never gonna You're never gonna carry it because
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: it's just too uncomfortable. So you so if Antononne's gotta
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: the uh we call it the Bobby glock. I think
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: it's a forty two.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds about right.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: It's quite small, Yeah, I think it holds five rounds
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: five plus one.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I think I don't know, Countramemba, I carried a five
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: plus one forever, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I would prefer it's actually my preferred carry. It's this
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: sissy WP X two or WP. So yeah, if you
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: shoot someone from far away with a handgun, guess what happens.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: You go to jail. That's it in most cases, right,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: unless it's a it's an immediate threat and you're still
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: gonna have to fight in the courts. Like we were
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: saying at the beginning of the show, using a handgun
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: is a range thing. There's a sweet spot. There's a
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: sweet spot where legally you're gonna be safe and a
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: sweet spot where it's gonna work. Like a guy with
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: a knife who's on top of you. You have bigger
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: priorities and get your gun and that's not getting stabbed
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: to death. It doesn't matter what gun you carried. So
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: there's a sweet spot with firearms for sure. All if
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: you're in a situation where all hell breaks loosen, there's
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: no more law to worry about. That's a different story.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: But if we're talking about eedc and being prepared for
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: the day's you know, challenges, then being able to i
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: mean even being able to shoot fifteen yards with a
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: firearm is crazy. Who is shooting at fifteen yards? Who
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: can you look at and go, oh my god, this
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: is an immediate threat? To my safety. Which that's what
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: you have to prove in a court of law. Right,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: you got to be able to say I was threatened
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: and I had no other option but to shoot this
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: guy at fifteen yards you know, forty five feet. I
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: don't know how to do it. In your guys stuff.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I'm just an ignorant American, so whatever that is something
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: close to meters right.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: For example, Yeah, I mean here in South Afica. I
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's the same with you all, but yeah,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: in South Africa, if somebody is even in your house,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: you can't necessarily shoot him.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: It depends on the state. I have an easier time
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: in Virginia shooting someone trying to get into my house
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: than someone in my house, which is really interesting. If
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: you're breaking in, you have a better chance of getting
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: off legally if you shoot them dead breaking into the house. Yeah,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: then you do if they're in the house, which I
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: can't wrap my head.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: The copp told me once that if that were the case,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: if somebody broke into our house, kid him, don't injure.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Him, oh for sure. I mean, well, you know, one
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: of the things we have in the States now is
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: there's a company called CCW Safe. And what they do
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: is they provide you with immediate access to a self
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: defense lawyer and you pay into their basically their insurance,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: and then they pay for your lawyer should you ever
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: find yourself in a situation like that, because you need
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: a lawyer quick, a good one who knows self defense law,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: or else you're going to get tangled up. You may
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: wind up in jail for a short time or maybe
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: you know what he always what Ken, my friend always
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: tells me who runs who works for CCW Safe. He says,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: when you kill someone, it's a homicide period until he
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: gets investigated, you know what I mean. And you just
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: have to keep that in the back of your mind.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: And that doesn't just mean you shot him, you punched
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: him in the head. They fell down, hit their head
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: on the curb, and they died. Homicide. He stabbed them
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: because they were stabbing you. They're dead, you're alive. Homicide.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: So it's just a you know, it's an interesting way
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: to look at it.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: A maide of mine killed a guy who jumped over
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: the wall and came running at him with a knife,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: and he What the guy with the knife didn't know
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: is that my mate was carrying a glock and immediately
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: pulled it out and shot him I think twice, and
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: then phoned the police. And he didn't go to jail.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: They took his gun away from him obviously that's protocol,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: but he got his gun back eventually.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Well that's good, that's good. Yeah. Like I said, sometimes
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: it works out, sometimes it don't. But you better be prepared,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean for that type of situation.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but not just physically prepared. You have to be
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: mentally prepared. If you've got a gun, you have to
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: there's a psychology involved. Yeah.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Well, one of the most important things if you pull
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: a gun, I think, is to know what's beyond your target.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You can shoot you can
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: shoot holes through paper targets, you can shoot steel, you
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: can run and shoot steel. You can for front flip
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: and shoot steel and get good at that and get accurate.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: But the most important piece of advice that I ever heard,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I think when I started carrying a gun all the time,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: was you better know what's behind the guy you're shooting,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: what's through him, what you could miss and hit behind him?
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: I e.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: People, you know what I mean. You're in a crowded
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: mall and someone pulls out a gun and targets you
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: or start shooting other people. You think I'm going to
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: be a hero pull a gun out to shoot him,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: miss and hit some little girl. Right, So that's and
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: all that on top of like, oh my god, I'm
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: pulling my gun out to shoot someone, which is the
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: real adrenaline dump at the time, right. So yeah, So
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: but it's it's a responsibility. It's a huge responsibility to
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: carry a firearm, you know. And I've been on both
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: sides of that thing, on the on the good side
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: and on the inside, and it's you know, it's just
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: one of those things. If you're going to do it
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: for a long time, you gotta again it's back to
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: mental You got to remain vigilant.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: If you are in a country where you cannot or
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: may not shall we say, carry a gun or a knife.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: For example, in China. I've been there. I don't think
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: you're allowed to carry away, Sure you're not. I might
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I might have that wrong, But even the police they
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: don't carry guns. So then I guess a form of
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: martial art might be good, like jiu jitsu or something.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: But just yeah, stop relying on other people to save you.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, do you ever go on the internet.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Here's what people do when someone's getting stabbed to death.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: That's it, you die. Yeah for Instagram, Yeah.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: That's the that's their first response. Oh, let me make
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: a video. This guy's getting his head kicked in by
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: three guys. Yeah, I mean there is in the United States,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: there is this like, well, it's a recurring criminal problem.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: It's a bad DA problem. But like, there's also the
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: problem no one talks about, which is no one intervenes.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: No one intervenes for the safety of both people in
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: the fight. Right, Let people throw hands for a little bit,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: get a couple of punches in. But yet there used
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: to be a time where it we'll just you intervene.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: That's what you do. You stop the violence as a
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: member of the community and move on with your day.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: And that's just not happening anymore. People are making videos.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: They're going like, oh yeah, got a lot of views
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: on that guy getting his head kicked in. It was
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: pretty good, lucrative.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: What's the moral of the story.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: The moral of the story is that, you know, the
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: more self reliant you can be moving to this uncertain future,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: the better off you're going to be. You know, eedc
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: is a part of that. Food security is a part
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: of that. And probably in the face of all the
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: stories about you know, what this future is going to be,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: what it could be, what it might be, or maybe
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: what it even is, is to remember that your life
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: is your life, right and you as much of it
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: that you can control is what you should focus on,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: not as much of it as what might be under
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: the control of someone else or some big war or
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: some big technology that could affect your life. It's like
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: every day you get, you know, something like sixteen eighteen
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: hours to make it the best day possible, and most
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: of that is up to you, So do with that
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: what you will.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Self reliance, self determination, preparedness. The problem, James is that
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: it's a bit of a laughing stock conversation.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Oh for sure, yeah, yeah, oh definitely.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Oh he's a prep but the guys of nutcase.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, until it all until twenty twenty, right until COVID
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: and people are fist fighting in the States over toilet paper.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, in South Africa, until twenty twenty three, when you
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: have an electricity.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Actually no electricity, yeah, actually.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three. Wasn't that anytime? I mean we've had
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: electricity problems I think since twenty twelve, but it depends
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: on the year.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've been at it. We're a great
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: case study because PBN has been producing shows since twenty twelve.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: And really, what we know about prepping is you're going
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: to change people slowly, and there's some people you're never
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: going to change, right, some people are going to hear
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Every year a certain amount of new preppers listen to
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: our network, start prepping, living better life, And we just
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: were there. We're fighting the war of attrition. How many
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: more can we pull out of the frame this year,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean and get them on the
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: right track. But there are you to your point, there
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: are some that are always going to mock you and
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: just you know, what are you worried about? You can't
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: help them. They got to find it in their own time.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: What we're doing right here is the best that we
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: can do. Put this information in their face and hope
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: that they figure it out.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, you've mentioned it a few times, so one last time,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I'm how can I follow you? Yeah?
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: The best and easiest answer is Prepperbroadcasting dot Com. We
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: have twelve hosts over there now doing shows on you know,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: every preparedness topic there is. We do about four shows
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: a day, and there's a contact forum over there that
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: goes right to my email. So if you're intent on
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: listening to PBN or contacting me for some ungodly reason,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: that's how you do it. Prepper Broadcasting dot com.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: James, you and I have been chatting since what twenty
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: twenty three, I think twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, someway.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: It feels like even before twenty three. Yeah, before I
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: don't know Frands, but yeah it was the old show
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: and yeah, the old network and all that kind of stuff.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: But it's always a pleasure, is my point. And uh
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: oh definitely, And this is not the last time, but
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: for now, James Walton, thank you for joining me in
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: the trenches.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me man. Always a pleasure.