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The Scariest Abandoned Buildings and Places · Tales from Incredible Tales

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  Speaker 1: Then he thought like maybe his friend called me and
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  Speaker 1: said don't disturb me, don't disturb me. I want to sleep.
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  Speaker 1: Then nobody replied, you know, then he was like, a
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  Speaker 1: bit weird. Why nobody reply me? Then he looked up
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  Speaker 1: all the drawers and wardrobe all open.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Pha.
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  Speaker 2: My
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  Speaker 2: name is
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  Speaker 1: Wayne. My name is Kyle, and this is Tales from
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  Speaker 1: Incredible Tales, inspired by the classic Mid Cop series where
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  Speaker 1: we explore different aspects of Southeast Asia's supernatural culture from
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  Speaker 1: supposedly haunted locations to creatures and spirits. Abandoned buildings and
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  Speaker 1: places might have been forgotten by some, but for those
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  Speaker 1: who are interested in the, incredible.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe even the apparitions who roam their halls, they
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  Speaker 1: are as alive as ever. This episode's topic is inspired
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  Speaker 1: by the original Incredible Tales episode, the Ford Factory. We
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  Speaker 1: start in Singapore. Woodnuke House or Istana Wood is located
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  Speaker 1: in a forested area around Holland Road. It was formerly
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  Speaker 1: owned by a Sultan of Johor, but has been empty
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  Speaker 1: for nearly a century.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that Woodnuke House isn't charted on maps just
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  Speaker 1: adds to its legends. A place like that is bound
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  Speaker 1: to attract rumors of the supernatural. People claim to have
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  Speaker 1: seen everything from shadowy figures to spirits and even poltergeist.
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  Speaker 1: Many of these possibly preceded or accompanied by phantom sense.
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  Speaker 1: Kyle and Wayne even had an episode of their own show,
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  Speaker 1: Ghost Maps, where the story was inspired by an account
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  Speaker 1: from one of your listeners, Vic.
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  Speaker 1: Vic claimed to have seen a ghostly woman, maybe even
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  Speaker 1: a Pontana, while exploring the abandoned building. Don't try to
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  Speaker 1: find out the truth behind this building for yourself though.
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  Speaker 1: It's now off limits and you will get into trouble
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  Speaker 1: if you trespass. Plus, the land might be redeveloped soon
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  Speaker 1: due to a land swap between Singapore and Johor Sultanate.
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  Speaker 1: So all the more reasons why you should stay away. Isana.
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  Speaker 1: Have you, have you been there before? Honestly, no.
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  Speaker 2: Can I, can I say, I very rarely say this
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  Speaker 2: about like creepy places. I regret not visiting this place.
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  Speaker 2: I really would have loved to have seen this place
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  Speaker 2: because you see the photos of it. It's like abandoned
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  Speaker 2: is one thing. It's been overrun by nature, like the
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  Speaker 2: walls outside have like creepers or like plants growing on it. It's,
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  Speaker 2: it's really a case of
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  Speaker 2: The, the natural world has taken over this building. So
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  Speaker 2: creepiness aside, it's such an interesting visual place. I wish
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  Speaker 2: I could have seen this, but then
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  Speaker 2: To get down there really is like such a pain.
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  Speaker 2: If it was even legal for you to get out
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  Speaker 2: right now,
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  Speaker 1: I, I, I did a little bit of urban exploration, uh,
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  Speaker 1: earlier in my life, but, uh, it's one of the
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  Speaker 1: places that I never explored because it was very hard
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  Speaker 1: to get to actually because you have to bash through
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  Speaker 1: a forest. I don't like bashing through forests. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a bit, um, yeah, I mean, you're not scared
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  Speaker 1: of entities, but you know there might be snakes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't like that like lizards. I don't like that, uh, ghosts, uh,
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  Speaker 1: OK lah.
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  Speaker 1: Those are fine.
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  Speaker 2: That's not. Any entities out there, that's not a
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  Speaker 2: challenge,
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  Speaker 1: but I've seen the photos, uh, so I have friends
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  Speaker 1: who went there actually do full on photo shoots. That's
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  Speaker 1: what that was like maybe 1015 years of photo shoots, wedding, um,
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  Speaker 1: no like, um, portraits, like they, they do the high
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  Speaker 1: fashion kind, but they want to do it in an
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  Speaker 1: abandoned house. So apparently there is a bathtub inside the
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  Speaker 1: house itself. There is.
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  Speaker 1: That people do rituals to it because it's an abandoned
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  Speaker 1: house right so people do rituals. You can imagine what
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  Speaker 1: they put inside the bathtub and then then then they
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  Speaker 1: draw like satanic, uh, symbols that it's all over the house, uh, uh,
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  Speaker 1: and there were also a few, uh, supposedly encounters by
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  Speaker 1: other paranormal investigators that
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  Speaker 1: Actually went over and then they they they they claim
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  Speaker 1: to have seen uh uh a woman that's roaming the
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  Speaker 1: halls of that place, uh, possibly the
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  Speaker 1: Maybe the previous owner's, uh, wife or something, someone that
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  Speaker 1: was there. So yeah, that's, that's pretty creepy. So what
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  Speaker 1: do you guys know what actually happened to the house?
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  Speaker 2: It's probably just a case of, oh, this is our land,
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  Speaker 2: this is our land, land changes hands and everything. I wouldn't, I,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the reason for it being abandoned was,
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  Speaker 2: but it's, there's nothing.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing supernatural about why it was abandoned.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of abandoned buildings, have you guys heard about uh
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  Speaker 1: Mat Matilda House? Oh yeah at Punggol, right? So my
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  Speaker 1: mom used to tell me this story that actually they
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  Speaker 1: wanted to demolish that building for a very long time,
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  Speaker 1: but every single time there's like, you know, those, those
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  Speaker 1: big machines like gondola, is it, is it the tractors, tractors, right,
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  Speaker 1: whenever they try to like bomb the thing right.
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  Speaker 1: Usually it is the opposite. The building is not demolished,
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  Speaker 1: but the, but the machine itself like the Bali and
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  Speaker 1: stuff like, yeah, yeah. Funnily enough, uh, before they, because
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  Speaker 1: now the, the grounds where Matilda House is before they
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  Speaker 1: build a condo, it was just the house and empty
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  Speaker 1: plot of land. I've been there. Oh yeah, I've been
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  Speaker 1: to that. I didn't enter la, but I was outside.
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  Speaker 1: You can clearly see that one.
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  Speaker 1: So I, I used to go rounding with my friends.
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  Speaker 1: So I was a pilan rider. So we, we go
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  Speaker 1: to haunted places. So this is one of the stops
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  Speaker 1: that you go, and we always go there. That's the
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  Speaker 1: last stop that we go there, then we sit there chill, um,
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  Speaker 1: drink water, then we just look at a haunted place
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  Speaker 1: because it's a normal thing to do. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean it looked very creepy, even from afar. Um, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure why it cannot be torn down, right.
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  Speaker 1: Could it be a question of like them liking the
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  Speaker 1: design and then they kept it in, or could it
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  Speaker 1: be something that's more supernatural where they cannot tear it
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  Speaker 1: down and then uh but there's the thing, to a
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  Speaker 1: point that like, you know, big machines like heavy machines,
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  Speaker 1: the ballet, you know, like upside down when trying to
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  Speaker 1: demolish the place. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, machines can be faulty
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  Speaker 1: but multiple times,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: I, I don't know where they're getting. So maybe they
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  Speaker 2: should check that brand, see in terms of its quality
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  Speaker 2: and everything lah. But yeah, I know that's it. Mattilla
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  Speaker 2: House is one of those places where, like, you know, you,
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  Speaker 2: I've never, I've never heard specific stories about it. That's
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  Speaker 2: the thing. I've never heard specific stories, but it's one
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  Speaker 2: of those places. The only thing that's been consistent is
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  Speaker 2: they cannot tear it down. For some reason it's, it's
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  Speaker 2: either cannot or they won't tear it down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which in a, in a country like Singapore where
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  Speaker 2: literally everything, you know, will be renovated and then like
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  Speaker 2: one street can look completely different. Everything will be over
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  Speaker 2: 5 years, something like metal house a bit frightening lah,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that it's managed to last this
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  Speaker 2: long.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean going back to the Istana would know right, I,
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  Speaker 1: I remember reading about it like actually it changed hands
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times. It was built in the mid 1800s,
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  Speaker 1: built by A guy like an English trader la.
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  Speaker 1: And then he changed hands to uh the Johor Sultanate
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  Speaker 1: and then he changed hands again and then World War
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  Speaker 1: 2 happened and then it was used for military use,
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  Speaker 1: like military. So like uh at one point it was
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  Speaker 1: used by the Indian army to prepare them for World
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  Speaker 1: War 2 and then the British Army, then it was
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  Speaker 1: attacked by the Japanese army. Then after the war, you
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  Speaker 1: return back to the British, then finally back to the
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  Speaker 1: state of Johor, which then the Johor Sultan.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, so changed so much hands, but one thing
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  Speaker 1: that is constant is that the ghost stories that that
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  Speaker 1: is there for many, many years lah. I mean, obviously
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  Speaker 1: there's A Moghost there, there's Indian ghost there.
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  Speaker 2: It's a nice multiracial.
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  Speaker 1: There is no documented deaths of soldiers there la, but
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  Speaker 1: the Japanese did, uh, during the war, the Japanese.
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  Speaker 1: Soldier, the Japanese army did bomb, uh, the surrounding area, yeah, and, uh,
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  Speaker 1: in 2006 there was actually a fire on on Istana. So,
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  Speaker 1: so in 2006, was it really abandoned? It was abandoned
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  Speaker 1: after 1986. So from 1957 to 1986, the palace right
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  Speaker 1: and the
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  Speaker 1: The compound was actually maintained by a caretaker that was
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  Speaker 1: hired by the Johor State Council supposedly only one caretaker.
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  Speaker 1: I respect that guy yeah yeah then, yeah, then after
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  Speaker 1: that it was left to his ruins then of course
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  Speaker 1: the fire happened and then he burned, uh, uh, it
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  Speaker 1: was quite a big fire actually burned down some of
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  Speaker 1: the roof.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, and, and this place, uh, was also like, uh, supposedly, uh, uh,
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  Speaker 1: a haven for drug users to be abandoned places usually
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  Speaker 1: like that, yeah. So then of course then there's the
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  Speaker 1: whole urban exploration boom where a lot of people start
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  Speaker 1: going to all these haunted places and they do graffiti
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  Speaker 1: and all, but but quite interesting like how an abandoned
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  Speaker 1: building suddenly caught on fire. Could it possibly be, you know,
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  Speaker 1: whenever people go there, you know, for like satanic.
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  Speaker 1: Um, rituals they use the candles and they, I don't know, they,
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  Speaker 1: they forget about it or what the poem very, very
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  Speaker 1: much likely, very much likely that could be the case
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  Speaker 1: of like, or maybe, you know, like punters like people
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  Speaker 1: who want to get, uh, get gamblers lah, then they
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  Speaker 1: go and pray to the spirits that they say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you give me something. He's like the offerings, then they
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  Speaker 1: never actually.
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  Speaker 1: Reach the fire, then it just burned trying to get
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  Speaker 1: 40 numbers or like something like you know
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  Speaker 2: it's a common thing in abandoned areas where the punters
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  Speaker 2: go down there to pray to spirits that might be
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  Speaker 2: in an abandoned area specifically,
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  Speaker 1: not just, not just abandoned places, to my knowledge is cemeteries,
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  Speaker 1: abandoned places, uh.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, places with, uh, high numbers of fatalities,
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  Speaker 2: right, OK, OK, OK, OK, because like if you told
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  Speaker 2: me they went to a cemetery and all that, at
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  Speaker 2: least that sounds like, OK, fair enough, you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: almost like a consecrated land. It is a consecrated land
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  Speaker 2: in that sense. OK, that makes sense. Abandoned places like, oh, you,
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  Speaker 2: you really love gambling if you're willing to go down there.
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  Speaker 2: I, I hope it's worth it. I hope you strike
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  Speaker 2: your 40 like
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  Speaker 2: first prize.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's one more abandoned place, uh, I believe
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  Speaker 1: it was called Red House in Pasir Ris. Have you
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  Speaker 1: guys heard about that? Oh yeah, yeah, I've heard about it.
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  Speaker 1: So whenever, whenever kids want to explore the place inside, right,
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  Speaker 1: so I think outside the gate, right, correct me if
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  Speaker 1: I'm wrong, I forget, but outside the gate, right, there's
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  Speaker 1: like this monument, like the lion, right.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to enter, you will, you have to
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  Speaker 1: light a cigarette, put it inside your mouth, and then
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  Speaker 1: you go in, you explore before it runs out, you
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  Speaker 1: have to go out, you'll be stuck inside. That is the, yeah, I,
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  Speaker 1: I heard that, and we have done it as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I went into the red house before, so yeah, so.
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  Speaker 1: When it was uh abandoned back 2006 era that kind
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  Speaker 1: when you were secondary school kids, uh, you do it
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  Speaker 1: as a dare with your friends you you know chalet
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  Speaker 1: nearby you dare not you dare to go now go
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  Speaker 1: la you want to act half go la. We all
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  Speaker 1: go 10 guys go in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so then like the secret put in and you go,
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  Speaker 1: then scare yourself, run around, but actually it's not very big.
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  Speaker 1: Rho is not very big. It's like, like a bungalow,
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  Speaker 1: a bungalow is like a bungalow. Uh, it's very creepy,
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  Speaker 1: definitely very, very creepy. Now I believe it's a childcare.
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  Speaker 1: It's already like they clean it up and then it's
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  Speaker 1: like a, yeah, it's in use now la. I think
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  Speaker 1: the only abandoned place that I have been to, right,
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  Speaker 1: Old Chang Changi Secondary school.
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  Speaker 1: Demolished already, is it? I think, uh, I think now
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  Speaker 1: it is demolished, but back then when I was in
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  Speaker 1: secondary school, I managed to because, OK, so I was
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  Speaker 1: from Chaka Changi Secondary school, the new one, so one
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  Speaker 1: day I think it was secondary 3, so me and
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  Speaker 1: uh my friends decided to take a visit.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, go, go see the old Chaka Changi, right? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: we wanted to experience la, right, the place, so we,
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  Speaker 1: we went there lah. It's quite near like, but we
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  Speaker 1: took bus la. It's quite near. So when we get there,
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  Speaker 1: there was a security guard, there's a Malay, uh, pachi,
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  Speaker 1: Malay uncle just standing there. What are you guys doing here,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and we say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: We told them it was for a school project.
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  Speaker 1: We need to do research, so that the uncle willingly,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the, the, the, the security guard willingly like
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  Speaker 1: let us go inside, but he accompanied us lah. So
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  Speaker 1: we went so we was so creepy imagine the home economics,
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  Speaker 1: you know, kitchen was like super old school, you know,
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  Speaker 1: was super old school and then the, the classroom is
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  Speaker 1: like totally run down. It was really, really creepy even
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  Speaker 1: like I think at that point of time it was afternoon, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the only abandoned place I've went to. So
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  Speaker 1: you just went in just walk walk CC, yeah, just
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  Speaker 1: to experience and the uncle accompany you, but then if,
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  Speaker 1: if I recall correctly, the uncle also did like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the Malay uncle also did like share a little bit
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  Speaker 1: la oh this is a classroom or this was the
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  Speaker 1: the toilet.
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  Speaker 1: Or this was the place that a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: say got goes whatever those kind of things, so he
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  Speaker 1: like not scared you don't know and I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: he work until what time, but at that point of
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  Speaker 1: time I remember he, he was alone, quite, quite, quite
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  Speaker 1: a tough, uh, security guard. I think now also have
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  Speaker 1: that there's there's a lot of like uh abandoned HDBs
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  Speaker 1: and whatnot, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think one of it is Spooner Spooner.
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  Speaker 1: I think everyone knows, um, I think Tanglin Hall also, right?
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  Speaker 1: Tanglin Hall, they, they refurbished it already. Now it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be rental flats for a while before they tear down, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna use it. The other one is a diamond block.
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  Speaker 1: I've never been there also. Taman Jurong.
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  Speaker 2: Diamond block is, has it been abandoned already
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  Speaker 1: on and off. But, but if I'm not wrong, they
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  Speaker 1: finally closed down, right, the, the supermarket below, right, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I hope they don't demolish it because you'll be a pity.
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  Speaker 1: This is quite a special design out there and it's
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  Speaker 1: a very I've been there, uh, both abandoned and both
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  Speaker 1: not abandoned. It's very.
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  Speaker 1: is very, very weird. Like, um, you know, uncles are,
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  Speaker 1: they like to share stories, so we went there to,
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  Speaker 1: to shoot some photographs, and it was in the day.
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  Speaker 1: Then we just reached there, then we had coffee. Then
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  Speaker 1: the uncle just look at us like a bunch of uncles,
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  Speaker 1: what you, what are you boys doing here? So this
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  Speaker 1: is the middle of nowhere like, what are you doing here?
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  Speaker 1: Are you staying here? I said, No, we just come
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  Speaker 1: here take photo. Oh, you want to hear ghost story
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  Speaker 1: or not? They start telling us ghost stories about the
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  Speaker 1: place and all then.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, then, uh, then we went out, but at that
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  Speaker 1: point it wasn't abandoned, but it was very not as
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  Speaker 1: many people because it's rental flats. Oh, so there's business
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  Speaker 1: on the first and to the 3rd floor. Then of
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  Speaker 1: course the famous supermarket and then the ledge is one
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  Speaker 1: of the shortest ledge in HDB, you know, ledge usually
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  Speaker 1: is like about here, right? It's about here only anytime
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  Speaker 1: very dangerous, very dangerous, yeah, so.
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  Speaker 1: You know, so yeah, that was a very interesting place
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  Speaker 1: to be. Now, now it's all fenced up. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's fully abandoned really.
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  Speaker 2: Those ledgers are so short that I, who am vertically challenged,
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  Speaker 2: even I was like, Whoa, this is dangerous. So I
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  Speaker 2: can't imagine anybody than me walking through there. Speaking of stories,
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: let's move to the Philippines where we will talk about
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  Speaker 2: the Manila Film Center.
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  Speaker 2: The Min Film Center has a tragic history. Its construction
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  Speaker 2: was ordered way back in 1981 by then First Lady
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  Speaker 2: Imelda Marcos, who wanted the building to be the crown
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  Speaker 2: jewel of the inaugural Manila International Film Festival. But in
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  Speaker 2: November that year, the scaffolding on the 4th floor collapsed,
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  Speaker 2: trapping workers in quick drying cement.
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  Speaker 2: A media blackout was put into place and rescue workers
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  Speaker 2: were only allowed access 9 hours after the incident. By
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  Speaker 2: that time, unsurprisingly, more than 100 workers had already died
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  Speaker 2: or were buried in cement. Naturally, this tragedy led to
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  Speaker 2: seemingly supernatural incidents. Uh, leading up to the festival, some
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  Speaker 2: usherettes were hit by an odd smell backstage, and many
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  Speaker 2: said they could feel something cold blowing on their skin.
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  Speaker 2: Others working on the festival, as well as some of
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  Speaker 2: the guests, uh, even said that they saw ghosts of
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  Speaker 2: those workers.
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  Speaker 2: A few months later, Betty Benitez, the wife of an
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  Speaker 2: assistant minister, and the woman who gave the order to
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  Speaker 2: continue construction of the center as if nothing happened, died
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  Speaker 2: in a car accident. This is the part that really
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  Speaker 2: gets to me. A medium who visited the center claimed
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  Speaker 2: the spirits told him that Betty is with us.
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  Speaker 2: Who could
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: be.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Well, they still went ahead with the film festival.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: They went ahead with the film festival.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: That's, and that's the like the, the, there's so many
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: layers to this that make it all the more upsetting
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: and almost make you sympathize with the ghost because all this, the,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: the media blackout, they didn't want to to make a
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: big deal over the fact that the scaffolding fell. I
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: was reading there was a quote from um.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: A woman who was uh a kid.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Ah, and she was the daughter of, I think one
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: of the, the PR people or something like that, and
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: can't remember the exact quote, but more or less she
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: was saying, um, her, her, her parents told her that
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: they would see.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: bodies being
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Pull out from from the accident site covered in cement
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and literally frozen because the cement basically dried and they
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: died in the cement itself. So I'm like, that's, that's
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: already so tragic as it is and then to on
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: top of all that, continue on with the film festival,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: just to keep going, just to have, you know, this,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: this nice big celebration after all the workers perished like this.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, tragedy is already bad enough as it is
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: tragedy with all this compounded.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there might be missing people that are still there.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: So you're literally your foundation is like there's people still
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: down there. So I'm not surprised that it's haunted, super haunted,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: and so many people died there and and the fact
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: that they died tragically, you know,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: and it's, it's, I think the worst part about it
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: isn't just that it's tragic, it's tragedy that could have
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: been avoided. A 9 hour.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Period in between where they were just trying to like,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: you know, make sure the press didn't get word about this.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: 9 hours, right? Can you imagine how many people they
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: could have saved? True. And then they left there to suffer,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: to die until the rescue workers could get to them.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like, uh, this kind of like major
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: uh tragic deaths, right, is usually there's a lot of
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: uh residual energy the residual energies, right. I wonder how
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: long does it take for it to dissipate.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, so, so, so for Singapore, we, we, we
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: also had a tragedy, the New World Hotel collapse. So the,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the actual site has a new building now, but I was,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I was wondering like if it's still, it's still like.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: are the spirits at peace or are they still there?
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm being honest, right, I don't think
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: they are at peace at all. Like, even if, even if,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: you know, they managed to call like some medium or
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: what to, to, to, you know, to, to.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Um, how do I put this, the spirits, I'm pretty
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: sure they are still lingering around, you know, they can
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: never be like, you know, fully, uh, move on. They
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: can never fully move on, you get what I mean? Why, why,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: why would you say that? Yeah, they died like, uh,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: to me lah, they they died tragically, you know, same,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: same like this one, right.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So I mean like as much as you know you can,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: you know, OK, I make a deal with you, you
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: don't disturb me, I don't disturb you, that kind of thing, right?
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: But still at the end of the day they, they
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: disturb humans as they still, you know, haunt people, you
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, so, so you're saying that.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just there lah. They're just there. It's their
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: place now. It's their place now. I mean, that's my opinion. So, so, yeah, the,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the Manila Film Center, so there's like what 100 over workers,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: so they are all there lah. They are all still
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: there lah.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I'm, I mean, I'm pretty sure they don't die in peace,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and and you know that, and it's a it's a
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: place for screening movies, right? It's the darkest place of
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: almost everywhere, right, because literally light doesn't enter a cinema
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: because it's meant for watching movies to be pure black,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and then you have the tragic history and then the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: ghosts come.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: And then, uh, some parts of Philippines, they have some Chinese, uh, ethnicities, right?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: So they, they do actually, uh, cleans. No, they, they
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: do actually practice Hungry Ghost festival. So Hungry Ghost Festival,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: major tragedy, cinema, you put two and two together.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Garage, bro, you watch movies suddenly got more people. Imagine,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: imagine you, a lot of people watch this movie, very nice,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: then you just keep on watching after at the end
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: of the show, right, you turn around, right? You see
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: everyone is actually empty. It's actually empty, just you lah.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Oh my. I will say I never tried to get
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: the seat closest to.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: The screen in the cinema. All the more reason when
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: you say that during Hungry Ghost months or more. I'm
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: definitely not getting the seats in front in in that
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: film center. Yeah, that one definitely reserved for the spirits.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: But I think for this, um, particular incident, right, I
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: think it's even if they took.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Betty Benitez with them, right? Yeah, because they said Betty
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: is with us. To me it's still not fair la.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Of course 100 lives and one life. I'm sure there were,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, at that at that point, right, there was
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: a media blackout. I'm sure there were a lot more
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: things happening that we we don't even know to.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Till today, right, there was probably cover up, right, to, to, to,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: to hide it from the media. So we, we don't know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: maybe the amount is so much more. It could be right,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: like if you wear your team fore hat, the amount
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: could be much more and a lot more stuff could
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: happen and you know, la, like when, when we say, um,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: people with a lot of power influence, they also have
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: power to get.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Spiritual, uh, practitioners to help them block all this. So
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: actually I, I would say that the person that actually
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: got claim, uh, is maybe on the lower totem, the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: rank not high enough, cannot claim. Yeah, then the, the,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: the ones that are really involved, they, they can block. Yeah, yeah, I,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I feel like it could be there, OK, fair, fair,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: fair point,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: because it feels like it feels like too nice, too
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: nice an ending to the story.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Whereas like, oh, the person, the person who is quote responsible, uh,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: was claimed by the spirit, so everything's OK now. I
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: was like, that's too neat lah. I'm sorry, uh, like,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think one person could shoulder the blame for
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: all of this. So I think it's
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Like you said, one soul for all those workers who
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: passed on, it's, it doesn't balance out, right? I don't
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: see people unless a whole different developer comes in, destroys
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: the place, and then rebuild something on top of it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I don't see anybody going like, oh, OK, well, you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: let's try to give the, the souls here a chance
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: to rest. So for this one, at least, that one
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I do genuinely think they're all still there. They're probably
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: still roaming the halls till this very day.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: And which is awful. I mean, like, you know, they
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: deserve to rest, rest in peace. Now,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: now I want to go. I want to go and
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I know, right? I want to go to a film
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: festival there.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Just to experience, see what happened I go watch a
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: horror film. 4D effects on.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not the one who who wronged them, right? I'm
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: just there to watch the film. Look,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: you're just there to fulfill the purpose of the place.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: OK, good deal, right? You watch a horror film, you
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: pay for a normal ticket, but you get 40.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: It might even be scarier than the actual story.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Moving on, uh, many people claim that Tak School is
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: one of the most haunted locations in Hong Kong, and
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the legends behind it certainly backed that claim up. The
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: school has been abandoned since 1998, but according to two
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: different reports, a group of students decided to explore the
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: grounds either in 2001 or 2011.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: The group ended up being driven to hysteria after one
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: of them, a girl, attempted to strangle herself. When a
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: boy from the group tried to help her, she beat him.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Other stories that circulate are that the ghost of a
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: former principal still haunts the ground, and even the area
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: around the school was used as a mass grave for
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: villages who were massacred in 1941 during the Japanese occupation.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I mean, Hong Kong is one of my
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: favorite cities to visit, lah. I try to visit every
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: year and, uh, I think last year I, I, I
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: was in Hong Kong and I actually uh went uh
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: to that area. We were, I wanted to go take
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: some photographs. Uh, so Hong Kong is slightly larger than Singapore,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: so they have like the main city where it's like
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: super dense, and then they have like the more countryside, right?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: So Tata is near the countryside. It's like a good
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: 50 minute drive away from the city. Yeah, so, um.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: That area, when we drove past, we were going to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: an old Chinese village. So those villages like like you
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: see in the Chinese drama that very old one like
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you still can go there and take photos like.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Then I did not realize that I actually passed by Tata.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: So it was like literally like right next to it only.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Then I went back, right, and I was like looking
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: at a map, right? Then I realized that actually that
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: whole area a lot of cemeteries.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: So you can imagine that it's like equivalent to like
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: a school right next to the Buket Brown. Oh, OK, OK,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: so no wonder it's so haunted la because the whole
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: area is all like.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Um, one more, more, more rasan, yeah, and then, uh,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: there is this, uh, pond that's supposedly nearby la, uh,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: this pond that that that got a lot of people, they,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: they go inside, la, they go inside and themselves. So yeah,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: inside the Tata school no nearby nearby, so the area
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: a bit, a bit more creepy on the creepier side
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: on
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: so they, they take their lives.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: By drowning themselves in the pond,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: yeah.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: How deep is the pond? I don't know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: deep enough,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I think it looks, it looks, I mean, I walked
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: past it, it looks pretty, yeah.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the area is not the, the usual, uh,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: how to say, like, you know, Hong Kong, when we
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: think of Hong Kong it's dense, it's more to like
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: the rural, yeah, yeah, so, so, so, uh, uh, it's
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: surrounded by mountains and hills and forests lah. So, uh,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Tata is in this area called Yun Long. So, so this, this.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: The place is more uh a bit they will call
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: it the new territories so it's closer to uh Shenzhen
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: really yeah so that that area is quite creepy I
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: would imagine and then uh uh in our own podcast
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: we actually did talk about like the haunted roads. So
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: it's also near one of those roads, right, that is
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: known to be haunted. So it's all along la. It's
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: like Hong Kong's version of uh Kaak area OK.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so the focal point is taka.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: You've got these abandoned places and they're all separate stories.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: There's like wood milk is one thing, like, you know,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: or there's a, there might be a Pontana on there,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: all this, but when you have the central story of
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: this girl who's gone into hysteria and then she bites
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: her friend tried to friend bite herself, right, like that,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: that to me is, it's even more frightening when there's
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: an anchor story associated with a particular place.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Like the, the story about the principal haunting the school
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: and everything, that one I'm like, hm, but might be true,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: maybe not, but like something like this sounds much more believable,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: and you see, the thing is you'll see reports on it.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: It doesn't, it doesn't help its case that a lot
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: of the reports, the facts differ slightly, like you see
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: down here, 01 says 2001, 1 says 2011.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: But even then this idea of the, the girl going
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: to hysteria and biting a friend that immediately makes you
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: think what's going on down there. Something something is not
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: right about the
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: place.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, as soon as you have hysteria means you
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: know there's there's a few entities there. I've read countless
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: of stories about hysteria in Asrama. So in there's Asrama, right?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I've read countless of stories. So usually you start from
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: a person.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And then you know when you try to help her,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: they will like jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: then a mess hysteria already. Yeah, but that's the thing,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: that is the one thing that till now I'm not
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: sure why. Why usually this happens in like schools, you
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? I don't know why. There's there's a,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: there's a saying that uh schools are actually uh vortex
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: of energy. So let me explain.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Like, usually schools got shifts, right, morning and afternoon shift, right?
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: So in the morning and the afternoon there's a lot
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: of people moving around, right? Then suddenly at night, there's
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: no more energy boom, it's quiet. 11 security guard, one
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: caretaker maybe, right, um, and the Chinese believe in the
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: yin and yang energy. So you morning and afternoon you
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: got like a search of yang energy and then you
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: just take it away.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: So and sometimes schools are located in quieter areas, especially Takak, right?
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: It's like right in the middle of nowhere, yeah, it's
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: more village, more kampong. So plus the fact that it's
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: around uh cemeteries, uh, maybe created a vortex, therefore they
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: they they attracted a lot of the spirits and when
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: it's empty, right, and for long periods of time, don't
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: forget school holidays.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Spirits tend to enter the house, yeah, even, even, even
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: for Malay folklore, right, like when the place is too
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: empty for too long, spirits come tend to go and hey,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: there's a place for us to play. Let's go in.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Let's go camping. Yeah, I think that that is the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: reason why, uh, schools, even in Singapore, like some schools
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: are haunted because, yeah, there's there's an emptiness and the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: vortex of energy, so then they just go in.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's, I think that that's probably one of
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: the reasons, um, the mass hysteria stories I've also heard
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: my own secondary school. I cannot, I cannot name where
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: which secondary school, but I've heard stories of mass hysteria.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Same thing during chem la cams, yeah, during camp, then,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you know, like one person cannot then boom boom boom
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: boom boom it's like a domino effect. The schools feel
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: extra creepy just before.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Moves before like the evening set in like 445 p.m.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: very quiet already and then you like alone like wow
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: a bit creepy at the school because last time I
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: was in NPCC for a short while, right? So usually
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: it ends at that timing and it will be, it
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: will be really that creepy, you know, like oh I
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: just know like so so noisy people at the canteen
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: or like.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, then suddenly, ah, suddenly 4 + 5
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: + right suddenly like, oh yeah, actually it's quite true. Wow,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I never really noticed that.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I mean that also explains like because you said there
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: was the mass hysteria and it happened during a school camp, right?
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: It's at a time that normally it will be quiet
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: also so it does make sense that you know if
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: you're
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Invading their shift, so to speak, naturally they'd be like,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: get out. This is, this is if you're gonna, you're
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: gonna come during my time, you're gonna have to have,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: you have to face trouble.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: And, uh, yeah, as you were speaking about MPCCI, I
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: just recall a story in secondary school. So this, uh,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: for my oldest friends in secondary school, he was in
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: MPCC as well, and he, I think he was like,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: he was in charge for his his level.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: So you had access to the room for the CCA, right,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and the room is a very old block of our
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: secondary school. So our secondary school we actually went through
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: quite major renovation. So the old block and then they
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: build new blocks. So that is the old block that
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: he said, and he, he was like early lah, then
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: he's like, OK, let me take a nap. So he
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: went into the room, he was alone and then he just,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: it's one of those rooms, right, that had like a big.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Uh, wardrobes on each side and they kept their stuff inside.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: So like the equipment like the fake rifles all this, right,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: they were all inside. Then in the middle is like
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: one long table, almost much longer than this table. So
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: he just found a comfortable spot and then he just
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: lie down and sleep, right.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: And then right like I think he sleep like halfway,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: like maybe half an hour. It's quite deep. Then he
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: started hearing the drawers being open, pull open open open.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Then he thought like maybe his friend come me he said,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: don't disturb me, don't disturb me. I want to sleep.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Then nobody replied, you know, then he was like, a
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: bit weird. Why nobody reply me? Then he looked up
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: all the drawers and wardrobe all open.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, and then that's when he realized, right, that
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: actually the block, right, that the, the MPCC room is in, right,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: is known to be haunted.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that because he's very, very old, the school is very,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: very old, so the block is haunted, and then he
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: quickly close everything. Yes, he still have to close everything.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Now he will from the teacher because everything lock up.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: He go, he go to the canteen or something. He
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: never rest there anymore. Yeah, it's so creepy. Yeah, it
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: is creepy. Last on the list, let's head to Thailand, Bangkok.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Saton Unique Tower was supposed to be a luxury condo.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: What it ended up being was one tragedy after another.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: The building was a dream project for Rangang Tuan, a
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: prominent Thai architect and developer. Three years after Tsuan's dream
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: project started taking shape, however, he was arrested for allegedly
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: plotting the murder of the president of the Supreme Court.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: The development actually continued after this though. In fact, it
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: was actually almost done.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: When the 1997 financial crisis, construction was halted and remains
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: in limbo till this day. Since then, rumors have run
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: rampant that the building is haunted.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: There's a particular popular legend of a construction worker who
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: fell to his death while working on the tower. Since then,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: some people have actually claimed that his ghost is still
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: wandering the corridors. Fuel was actually added to the supernatural
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: fire when the body of a Swedish backpacker was found
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: on the 43rd floor in 2014.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: There are also rumors that the towers were built upon
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: formal burial grounds. Actually, we've been there.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, we have
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Wayne and I, we've been there, uh, yeah, during
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: the day
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: for another project, uh, and I actually chanced upon, uh.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Cemeteries around that area, OK, like Chinese cemeteries around that area.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: So the, the rumors of it being a former burial ground,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: it might be true, not very far, yeah, not very
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: far from the truth. It's like kampong, there's like a
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: few build shop houses, then cemeteries. Yeah,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: for me it was the it was the kampong area.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I didn't, I can't remember the cemeteries, but I remember
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: the kampong areas and that to me is what lends
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: credence because if they were going to bury the dead
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: somewhere nearby.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: It's literally next to where the tower is now, so that.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: But, but when you guys visit the tower, visited the tower,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: was there anything like creepy or strange, any encounters? I
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: think we were quite blessed that day because it was a,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: a chill day. So it was, I think, high noon,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: so it's like about 1 p.m. So usually that period,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the Yang energy is strong, so nothing, nothing. Uh, we
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: didn't went in, of course, uh, but we were underneath
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the tower and walking around in the tower.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Uh, we, we did see the, uh, another legend where
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: it's like, uh, the reason why the tower cannot be
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: finished is because it's casting a shadow on one of
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the temples in, in, in front of it. Oh, because
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the Thais, they revere Buddha, right they are mostly a
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Buddhist uh society. So, so actually casting a shadow la on,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: on this like disrespectful, apparently lah. So so we saw
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the temple is like right in front across the road.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: So we saw the temple, OK, OK, I can see
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: why there are rumors about that also, but you can
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: literally see the bones of the the the tower. So
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: it's like you can see all the all the pillars, everything,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: but nothing is inside.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: So you can see the whole structure like the car park, everything,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: but you don't have the walls, but it's still standing lah.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: It is it is still standing uh still to this
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: day lah.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and, uh, one thing that I felt that was
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: extremely creepy and extremely fun was that they actually shot
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a horror film there. They got permission from the authorities
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: to shoot an actual horror film there. I watched a film, uh,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: it's called The Promise, I think. The Promise, Thai horror film. Promise.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: It's quite, quite recent, like less than 10 years ago.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: And uh they, yeah, they, they shot the film there
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: on location, but it's regarding the tower. No, no, no, no, no, no,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: it's like it's for a different setting they use it
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: as a setting, but it's like people like to shoot
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: there la, yeah, and uh the one, the one thing
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: unique about that tower is that there's actually a huge
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: uh banner.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: So people like actually put advertisements because it's it's such a,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: it's such a big uh it's such a tall tower
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: you can see from the highway, yeah, so people actually
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: put billboards. So we're talking about your iPhones, your Grab app,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: they put billboards,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: soft
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: drinks and everything it's all there. So one way to monetize.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I know, right?
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Not just that, like Wayne and I were wondering, like,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: imagine you're the you're the worker. You have to go
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: out there, right.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Somebody has to go out there to put the thing down, right?
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Of course it's super big. Then you have to find
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: a way to, but somebody had to go out there
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: and make sure that you hang properly. Would you want
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: to be there some?
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine the bonus pay you get out of
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: there?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think there will be bonus pay. No, no
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: bonus pay, bro.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: high up already haunted on top of that, right?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Right, today we're going to install some ban or the
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Saturn unique tower.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I, for me it's also the, the thought of who's
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: the advertising exec right who's buying the spaces is going, yeah, the,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: the abandoned haunt supposedly haunted tower. Let's advertise our product
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: around there, perfect product placement down there.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: think that's that's what the, the, the ingeniouss of Southeast
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Asians are like, like, yeah lah, this one maybe haunted this,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: but you see the space so good.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: that I can see the ad very big, you know, like, and,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: and someone like it's a, it's a unique, there's a
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: story behind it, and then confirm people come and see
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: one and then when they see the tower they see
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: our banner so, you
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: know,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: they don't even have to get that close. That's the
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: best part. They just have to drive around it. You're like,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: ah
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: yeah, mobile,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: mobile, uh, company, yeah, OK, fair enough.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's one of those things, right, that you,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: you ignore the ghost.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: You ignore the ghost. I, I need to recoup my loss.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I build this tower. I still haven't recoup my loss.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Let me recoup my loss. This question is for everyone.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: They say that if a space is empty for a
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: long enough time, ghosts and spirits would move in and
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: inhabit it. How long do you think a space needs
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: to be empty for this to happen and why? Like
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: how long does it take for the entity for the ghost?
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I'm curious, I'm curious to know what you think.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Um, 2 weeks, 2 weeks.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Wow, I, I'm sorry, a very terrible joke crossed my mind. OK.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Immediately I thought, oh, so this is like the spiritual
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: version of MOP.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: When, when can you start selling it to to other
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: entities to move in?
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Why 2 weeks?
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Uh, OK, first and foremost, I think because I read
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: it somewhere, after 2 weeks, you know, if you were,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: let's say you sell your house already, right, after 2 weeks,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: it's enough time for like, um, a ghost like this,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: this one right here that I like, oh, there's a space.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Let's go in, you know, something like that. I think
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I read it somewhere.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: How about you? Why, why do you think? How long,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: how long will it take? I think it will take maybe, yes, no, la,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I think maybe half a year, 6 months, about 6
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: months because it's empty long enough, devoid of we we're
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: thinking of a scenario where this place used to be
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: inhabited by humans. You must stay there about 6 months,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: 6 months, 6 months, yeah, then your energy dissipates, takes time.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: And dust gas then animals dirty slowly get dirty then
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: like negative negative, then they come. I feel
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I think yeah, 6 months sounds about right, but for
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: me it's probably a year. I think the time varies.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I if it's if it's a space that's let's say like, um,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: it's where it's uh it's a landed property and nature
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: can start inhabiting it.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like in that case, it will be a
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: lot faster because if nature starts happening it then you know,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: the spirits of nature, the entities that reside in nature
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: are like, OK, if nature is reclaiming this place, then
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: clearly it's part of me as yeah, I, I think
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: if you, if you're saying like a mall or something
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: or or or.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Or even um Satan unique tower where it's you're surrounded
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: more by a city a year before the er like
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: you said, the energy changes.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: If if the area around it is still very much occupied,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I think the outside area affects the energy on the inside.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: So a year at most, but for 6 months I
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: would say something like wood, uh, nuke where nature starts
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: in.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I think the consensus can be 6 months or a
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: year la because uh.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Uh, for charms, especially Chinese, the talisman, right, it takes time, uh,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: it does expire. It does, uh, the power does go
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: away for after about a year, just about a year.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: So it does not say expire, the power is not
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: as strong. So you need to rebless it, even for salt, uh,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: and rice, uh, those blessings, they can expire also. They
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: can dry up. They dry out, then they expire, then
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: you have to put new rice and uh salt lah. So,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: so I think that there is also.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: So a good benchmark of time whether if you on
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: protection or the protection no more then yeah they can enter.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: All right, so it's time once again. Carl, please share
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: with us our morbid fact of the day.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: So you guys will like it if you like rom-com,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: even though they didn't film at the actual location, one
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: of the settings for Crazy Rich Asians was actually inspired
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: by Istana. So now you know, yeah.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Uh, I think it will be a very, very different
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: movie la if they actually filmed there. I mean, I
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: can imagine me directing, uh, uh, a different version of
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Crazy Rich Asian, uh, Crazy Hantu Asians, so it's all ghost,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: but imagine if they shoot, uh, at the, the real Istana,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: the art department.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Good
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: luck
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: to
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: them, good luck, man.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Good luck to them.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: If, if, and even if they didn't do the proper blessings,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: if they didn't like the art department didn't come in
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: and change everything, right, how,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: how to, how do the roof got holes, yeah, exactly,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: we'll be hearing different stories around Ronnie Cheng and like
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: at this point like what happened to them? What were
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: they doing when they were filming Crazy Rich Asians? Yeah,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I think it will look more like, you know, the, uh,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Corp's bride's bride.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: More than anything else.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: And now the new romantic comedy, Crazy Haunted Asians,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Crazy Haunted Asians coming soon.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: But I think all the scary scary ghosts all come
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: from Asia, so
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: that's true, that's true. That's true. I think we all
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: can agree on that. That's true. And I'm sure nobody
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: will correct us in the comments.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Thank you to all of you for tuning into Tales
• 44:29
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• 44:35
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• 44:36
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• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Wayne. My name is Kyle. My name is P, and
• 44:40
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• 44:42
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• 44:46
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• 44:51
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• 44:56
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• 45:02
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• 45:04
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• 45:09
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• 45:13
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