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• 0:10
  Speaker 1: It's the reform.
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  Speaker 2: Big show tonight, Anthony Albanize's apology for saying he'd like
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  Speaker 2: sex with Carlie Minogue and the terrible excuses being made
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  Speaker 2: for him, and China sends a frightening message firing a
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  Speaker 2: nuclear capable ballistic missile. Then there's the scandal of the
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: World Cup as President Donald Trump asked the FIFA mate
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: to cancel a red card for America's top striker ahead
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  Speaker 2: of a critical game tomorrow against Belgium. And also tonight,
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  Speaker 2: how many strange soldiers does it take to change a
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  Speaker 2: light bulb under the bureaucrats rules.
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  Speaker 1: All that are more coming up.
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  Speaker 2: But first, today there was even more evidence that Pauline
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  Speaker 2: Hansen is right about multiculturalism. It really is dividing us,
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  Speaker 2: and the Liberals are making a big mistake by attacking
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  Speaker 2: her rather than lead from the front. For these examples
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  Speaker 2: I'll show you from the past couple of days. Aren't
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  Speaker 2: this time about mass immigration. They involve aboriginal activists, often
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  Speaker 2: funded and promoted by the government to drive us apart,
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  Speaker 2: to attack the culture which should unite us.
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  Speaker 1: Now on the weekend, former Prime.
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  Speaker 2: Minister Tony Abbott, who is now the Liberals federal president
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  Speaker 2: published the text of a speech is given in London
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  Speaker 2: criticizing both mass immigration and multiculturalism, saying, for those with
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  Speaker 2: a grudge against their own country, it's sustained mass migration,
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  Speaker 2: especially from countries with quite different cultures. That's the surest
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  Speaker 2: and swiftest way to change and punish a place that's
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  Speaker 2: irredeemably tainted by unforgivable sin. And this is done in
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  Speaker 2: order to dilute and eventually to extinguish the Anglo Celtic
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  Speaker 2: core culture and the Judeo Christian foundational ethos. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: just two typical these days. The Coalitions immigration spokesman refused
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  Speaker 2: to endorse what his party president has said.
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  Speaker 3: It is the party room which always has and always
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  Speaker 3: will sets the policy in gender.
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  Speaker 2: See this is why the Liberals, when they do criticize
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  Speaker 2: mass immigration old culturism, look like they've actually been dragged
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  Speaker 2: to it by one nation against their will. And indeed,
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  Speaker 2: on the ABC yesterday a podcast presenter identifying as Aboriginals
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  Speaker 2: but also clearly having non Aboriginal ancestry did exactly that
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  Speaker 2: and played the racist card.
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  Speaker 4: What I heard in that speech was the language of
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  Speaker 4: white nationalism. It was the language of the great replacement
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  Speaker 4: theory right and if no, I do not think that's
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  Speaker 4: an overstatement. The diluting Celtic Anglo culture massive creation. It
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  Speaker 4: is something that would sit well with reform and would
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  Speaker 4: sit well with one nation.
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  Speaker 2: So that man I don't know finds aboriginal it is
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  Speaker 2: white nationalism to defend the Christian values which inform many
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  Speaker 2: of our laws and institutions. I mean, hello, about half
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  Speaker 2: Australia's Aborigines are themselves Christian, which means the Judeo Christian
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  Speaker 2: culture is their culture too? Is he saying they are
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  Speaker 2: also white nationalists? And it got worse this presented than
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  Speaker 2: promoted Nadock Week this week, which was named after the
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  Speaker 2: National Aboriginal of the Irelander's Day Observance Committee. They were
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  Speaker 2: so sad we have one Australian Day that's for us all,
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  Speaker 2: but this whole Natock Week, a whole week is one
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  Speaker 2: of no fewer than seven national days or weeks in
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  Speaker 2: which we're all meant to think how terrible the rest
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  Speaker 2: of us have been to Aborigines, and of course sponsored
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  Speaker 2: by the government, which is more multiculturalism. And the message
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  Speaker 2: once more is divisive about staying apart.
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  Speaker 4: It's celebration, but its roots over and sort of observing
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  Speaker 4: what's happened to First Nations people across the country.
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  Speaker 1: The resistance that has.
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  Speaker 4: Instilled in pretty much every community, in every individual throughout
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  Speaker 4: the decades and centuries.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not just him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you just look at Perth Foreshaw this week,
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  Speaker 2: Aboriginal flags everywhere, the austrained flag is all nowhere, and
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  Speaker 2: you've got to ask who does this help and who
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  Speaker 2: does it help? When Melbourne University teaches a new discipline
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  Speaker 2: called Cultural and Indigenous Astronomy, there's a genuflection teaches that
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  Speaker 2: as if indigenous astronomy so called, there's a science.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who does that help? Who does it help?
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  Speaker 2: When taxpayers give more than thirty million dollars to a
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  Speaker 2: new cultural center in Geelong, money is doing the rest
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  Speaker 2: and it's for people such as these dancers at the
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  Speaker 2: celebration I did, fying as Aborigines from all the identities
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  Speaker 2: open to them, with their mixed ancestry, and seeing that,
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  Speaker 2: I've just got to ask again, you know this explosion
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  Speaker 2: that we've seen and the number of people identifying as Aboriginal,
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  Speaker 2: tens are thousands of people telling the Census they're Aboriginal
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  Speaker 2: now when they didn't in the census before.
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  Speaker 1: How much of that is actually some kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Role play, a sort of self realization, you know, fuzzy
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  Speaker 2: good feelings, And why should the rest of us fund it?
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  Speaker 2: How different are such people from the rest of us?
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was the anti racist message. We're all
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  Speaker 2: the same under the skin. But this promoting of differences
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  Speaker 2: which are usually so trivial, this promoting we see of
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  Speaker 2: even different rights by race. Who does all this dead
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  Speaker 2: end symbolism actually help? Who does it help that? The
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  Speaker 2: prime is that today use the word from an average
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  Speaker 2: language spoken by no more than twelve thousand people in
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  Speaker 2: the Northern Territory described as new treaty with Fiji, when
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  Speaker 2: there's a perfectly good English word it could have used
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  Speaker 2: that everyone could understand.
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  Speaker 3: The Fijian people generously bestowed the word the valley on
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  Speaker 3: our union, and I also wanted to acknowledge the your
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  Speaker 3: new people who have generously offered us the word buckmack
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  Speaker 3: for the treaty. This means everyone, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, we have in Australia a tremendous gift. It's a
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  Speaker 2: common language to United US, and it's common with so
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  Speaker 2: many countries around the world, but we are now seeing
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  Speaker 2: instead are retribalizing of this country under multi culturalism.
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  Speaker 1: Now, you know, don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 2: As a boy, I loved learning about average and cultures
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  Speaker 2: when I was growing up in Darwin. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: used to read books like this. I bought them later
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  Speaker 2: again just because I like them so much. Like that's
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  Speaker 2: We the Aborigines by Douglas Lockwood, stories about Aboriginal Aborigines
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  Speaker 2: then that it was very influential, are the Aboriginal bestseller
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  Speaker 2: in the state.
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  Speaker 1: Same thing.
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  Speaker 2: But the fact remains that Western civilization resonates far more
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  Speaker 2: with me, and I dare say with the vast majority
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  Speaker 2: of Australians, and it's far more to teach me. I
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  Speaker 2: mean the books, the music, the science, the philosophy, the politics,
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  Speaker 2: the religion, the art.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, And you know, many people.
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  Speaker 2: With Aboriginal ancestry I suspect are not much different to
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  Speaker 2: me in that point, which I dare say is why
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  Speaker 2: there are about thirty or forty Aborigines who are Christian
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  Speaker 2: for everyone who still claims to follow a traditional Aboriginal religion.
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  Speaker 2: That's also probably why so many Aboriginies played the digery.
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  Speaker 2: Do so many more of them play the guitar. Now, actually,
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  Speaker 2: I don't actually think I've seen many Aborigines play the didjitido,
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  Speaker 2: and I've seen at one hotel in Northern Territory where
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  Speaker 2: the digital do play was white.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, And why should we mourn this? Why?
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  Speaker 2: Because it is in these ways of sharing a common culture.
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  Speaker 2: The Western culture, you know, is absorbed from so many
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  Speaker 2: different sources that we can become one. Which is why
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  Speaker 2: multiculturalism as a policy is our enemy. So Tony Abbott
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  Speaker 2: is right. Why can't the liberal MPs just say so?
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  Speaker 2: Why do they have to leave this difficult topic for
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  Speaker 2: appauling Hansen to muddle through? Now the warnings keep getting louder.
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  Speaker 2: I know I've been on this topic for years and years,
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  Speaker 2: but it's unmistakable now China is a military threat. And
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  Speaker 2: this afternoon it fired a nuclear capable missile with a
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  Speaker 2: dummy warhead from a nuclear submarine in the South China Sea,
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  Speaker 2: fired into the Pacific Ocean.
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  Speaker 1: It test is very successful.
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  Speaker 2: And ye I got to ask which countries would China
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  Speaker 2: want one day to hit with such a missile?
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  Speaker 1: What war is it training for?
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  Speaker 5: Now?
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  Speaker 2: China says this is not aimed at any particular country whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, sure, it's.
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  Speaker 2: About two years since its last such test, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: and that's worrying enough now that it's got Foreign Minister
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  Speaker 2: Penny Wong to speak frankly today for a change about
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  Speaker 2: how dangerous China is.
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  Speaker 6: Australia has been clear with China that we regard this
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  Speaker 6: as destabilizing to the region. Australia has been clear that
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  Speaker 6: these proposal are This proposed test is in the context
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  Speaker 6: of a rapid military built up by China which is
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  Speaker 6: lacking in the transparency and reassurance as to intend that
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  Speaker 6: the region expects.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: But chance or not, this test faring comes on the
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  Speaker 2: very day that Prome Minister Anthony Alvin as he signed
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: a treaty with Fiji to help each other if attacked.
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  Speaker 3: An attack on Fiji far from an outside force would
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  Speaker 3: trigger Australia's for support for Fiji and for its sovereignty.
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  Speaker 2: Again, though, the question is what help could Australia actually
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  Speaker 2: send Fiji or anyone else when we don't have new submarines,
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  Speaker 2: we won't have them for nearly a decade to come
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  Speaker 2: nuclear ones, and our military spending is so low an equipment,
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  Speaker 2: the equipment they have is not what we actually need.
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  Speaker 1: How many is it? Even today? Though was dismissing such quibbles.
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  Speaker 3: We've just had a budget and that budget had an
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  Speaker 3: additional from memory, if I think I'll get this right,
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  Speaker 3: fifty four billion dollars of additional spending. We have increased spending,
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  Speaker 3: but importantly we have increased effectiveness. You can't defend your
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  Speaker 3: country or any other country with a media release what
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  Speaker 3: you defend it with as assets.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, spending on defense next financial will go down.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me is Scoone New's defense analyst Peter Jennings, who's
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  Speaker 2: had senior roles in our defense department and headed the
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  Speaker 2: Australian's Strategic Policiestitute. Peter, great to talk to you again. Look,
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  Speaker 2: I know we'll probably sounding like a broken record on
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  Speaker 2: this too, but just the missile test today by China,
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  Speaker 2: how serious is it?
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  Speaker 1: Very serious?
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  Speaker 7: And it's focused on the United States. This is about
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  Speaker 7: testing a sea based into continental ballistic missile that has
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  Speaker 7: the range to reach any city or military target in
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  Speaker 7: continental United States. It follows, as you mentioned, a land
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  Speaker 7: based test in September of twenty twenty four from Hainan Island,
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  Speaker 7: again with a range of over eleven thousand kilometers, so
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  Speaker 7: capable of hitting the United States. The message that China
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  Speaker 7: is really passing to the American sister say, look, we
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  Speaker 7: are your equal in terms of nuclear weaponry, and that
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  Speaker 7: is going to impact on how the United States has
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  Speaker 7: to deal with China in the Indo Pacific. And it
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  Speaker 7: just so happens that where they've launched these missiles from
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  Speaker 7: they can follow a sea corridor which travels east of
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  Speaker 7: the Philippines and south of Guam all the way down
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  Speaker 7: to the furthest reaches of the South Pacific, traveling over water,
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  Speaker 7: and that I think is a particular test range which
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  Speaker 7: China values. And because they've done it twice now, once
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  Speaker 7: from land, once from a submarine, they will continue to
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  Speaker 7: do it. So it reinforces the importance to China of
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  Speaker 7: the Pacific and that's why they keep trying to influence
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  Speaker 7: Pacific governments in order to establish a military presence here
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  Speaker 7: and in terms of global security that this is actually
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  Speaker 7: a significant development showing China at a new stage of
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  Speaker 7: military power.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's two aspects exactly what you said, the military power,
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  Speaker 2: but also the signal they want to send, the consternation
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  Speaker 2: they want to send. But The thing here is that
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  Speaker 2: when you say they can reach America, take your point.
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  Speaker 2: America is its prime target, can obviously include every city
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  Speaker 2: in Australia. But it all comes as the Prime ministers
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  Speaker 2: signed a deal today to help Fiji if it is attacked. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what help could we give Fiji?
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  Speaker 1: Really? If God forbid war ever did happen?
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  Speaker 7: Well, Fiji is a decent partner with a small military,
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  Speaker 7: and we have a close relationship with them. But frankly,
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  Speaker 7: it's just not the main game when we're talking about
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  Speaker 7: the big geopolitical events taking place in our part of
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  Speaker 7: the world. Andrew, you know, the alliance relationships that count
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  Speaker 7: in the Pacific is the American relationship with Japan and
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  Speaker 7: the American relationship with US. We are the three countries
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  Speaker 7: that have some capacity to push back against China's belligerency.
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  Speaker 7: What the Urbanese government is doing is signing a range
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  Speaker 7: of treaties with micro states Fiji, Papua, New Guinea, East
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  Speaker 7: Team or I'm more than happy for them to take
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  Speaker 7: those diplomatic initiatives. But we are talking about countries that
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  Speaker 7: have almost no capacity to bring military power to bear,
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  Speaker 7: who will be looking for US for assistance. And yet
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  Speaker 7: we're giving them paper promises. You know, the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 7: is completely wrong in the quote that you showed in
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  Speaker 7: saying that they're giving more effective effectiveness to the defense force.
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  Speaker 7: Now they're not, Andrew. They've reduced the capability of the
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  Speaker 7: current defense force all to spend money on future submarines
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  Speaker 7: and future naval surface ships that we won't see for
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  Speaker 7: for more than a decade. We have a weaker defense
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  Speaker 7: force now than we've had for some time, and that's
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  Speaker 7: something that Australian should be seriously concerned about.
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  Speaker 1: And Peter, before we go, let's not forget.
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  Speaker 2: There's also a threat on another front, has been for
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  Speaker 2: a while actually, but it's intensified again. The US last
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  Speaker 2: week warned Poland that China's ally Russia was planning now
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  Speaker 2: an armed provocation in Poland to test whether other NATO
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  Speaker 2: countries would really come help defend it. Now, the Polish
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister says the situation could be critical hereas.
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  Speaker 8: The coming months, not least because of the somewhat changing
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  Speaker 8: nature of the war in Ukraine could prove truly critical.
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  Speaker 8: We're aware of the threats also thanks to information from
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  Speaker 8: our allies.
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  Speaker 1: Well that was Donald Tusk.
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  Speaker 2: What motive would Russia have for causing trouble in Poland
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  Speaker 2: and testing its defenses.
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  Speaker 7: I think there's two things going on here, Andrew. One
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  Speaker 7: is that Putin wants to test Trump's metal after what
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  Speaker 7: has been a substantial American failure in the Middle East
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  Speaker 7: by backing down after Trump started a war with Iran.
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  Speaker 7: Putin wants to get a sense of would the Americans
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  Speaker 7: really be there when it comes to defending Poland, which
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  Speaker 7: is a NATO country. The second thing I think we're
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  Speaker 7: seeing happening is that Russians are at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Losing very badly in the war in Ukraine.
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  Speaker 7: They're suffering in the order of thirty to thirty five
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  Speaker 7: thousand people killed every month every month in a fight
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  Speaker 7: where they are simply making no further advances. And it's
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  Speaker 7: not unusual that what Putin would do in those circumstances
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  Speaker 7: is create a distraction, you know, create the impression that
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  Speaker 7: the Russians might be about to do something elsewhere. So
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  Speaker 7: it's a diversion tactic, and it's a way of seeing
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  Speaker 7: how serious Trump might be about NATO security when he's
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  Speaker 7: talked it down for a number of years. That's what
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  Speaker 7: I think is going on here.
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  Speaker 2: It's all very, very grim. Feels like ninety thirty eight
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  Speaker 2: to me. Peter Jennings, thank you so much indeed for
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  Speaker 2: your time, really appreciate it. After the break, Anthony Abnezi
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  Speaker 2: says A sends a six word note saying sorry for
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  Speaker 2: telling the world he'd like sex Smith Kylie Minogue. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: where are the labor women who usually have so much
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  Speaker 2: to say about sexism. If Anthony Abenezi thought that going
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: on Nicky Osborne's podcast would be good for a laugh,
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  Speaker 2: he was right. I'm laughing at him and at labour's hypocrisy,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: but only after I got over my disgust that hearing this.
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  Speaker 5: Every guest gets asked these shag Mary Date, Kylie Minogue,
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  Speaker 5: Nicole Kibman or Ronda Birch Moore.
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  Speaker 3: I've just got married on only six months soon.
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  Speaker 5: But if a ghost tips up, let's just pretend, oh Kylie,
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  Speaker 5: clearly he married Kylie and Shagger and Data all of
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  Speaker 5: the above.
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  Speaker 1: All right, it's a triple She's terrific. And that wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even the end of this embarrassment.
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  Speaker 2: I mean having our Prime minister the first publicly slobber
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: over the body of a woman, not his wife within
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  Speaker 2: saw him further embarrassing his wife by describing their sex.
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  Speaker 3: Life six months in absolutely still bonk and light rabbits.
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  Speaker 8: Well, you know when we have time.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's fair.
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  Speaker 10: That's what happens when you get married.
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  Speaker 11: You have to schedule it, don't you.
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  Speaker 3: After the footy, after the forty it's always a good
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  Speaker 3: afrodisiac a souse win.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: How low rent can you get and how below the
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  Speaker 2: dignity of the Prime Minister's office was that You name
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  Speaker 2: me any past prime minister who have announced which woman
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  Speaker 2: he'd like to quote shag Can you imagine labor's up
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  Speaker 2: roar if Tony Abbat had done that or Scott Morrison.
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  Speaker 1: Don't even think about Robert Menzies, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean sketch as her misogyny what an example to young men?
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  Speaker 1: Terrible?
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  Speaker 2: So where is Albanese's Minister for Women, kater gallaher? Why
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  Speaker 2: she refused to say anything about Albaneze humiliating other women,
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  Speaker 2: even his wife like that. Not one word from her,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: And even funnier than her silenus was the babbling of
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  Speaker 2: some labor ministers.
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  Speaker 1: Take Environment Minister Tania Plipasey.
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  Speaker 2: She's one of the first to get on a high
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  Speaker 2: horse about the supposed misogyny of the Liberals.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, very high minded.
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: Misogyny doesn't burn itself out, It just gets worse.
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  Speaker 2: You have to call it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: You have to call it out, You have to call
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  Speaker 1: it out.
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  Speaker 2: But today, asked to comment on her Prime Minister saying
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  Speaker 2: he'd like to shag Kylie Minogue, her tongue was tired.
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  Speaker 1: There was no calling out going on at all. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: her hearing had also gone thing.
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  Speaker 9: I'm not going to comment on a podcast I haven't heard.
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  Speaker 9: I heard a few seconds of an exerpt. If what
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  Speaker 9: the Prime minister's saying is that he's a fan of
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  Speaker 9: Kylie Minogue, I guess that puts him in a group
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  Speaker 9: with millions of other Australians, including me, Including me, I'm
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  Speaker 9: a big fan of Kylie's as well.
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  Speaker 2: Skirit of a minister lacking in basic comprehension skills, Very Tanya,
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  Speaker 2: you're a big fan of Kylie.
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  Speaker 1: I got it.
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  Speaker 2: But that it's not the same as follow me carefully
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  Speaker 2: here as saying you want to have sex with Kylie.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: That makes you wonder you have to point this out
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: to a minister of the crown. And then there was
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: the deputy prime minister. Not a word of criticism of
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Albanisi from him either. Never mind what Alberizi actually said,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: look instead look and said please over here the women
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: his heart and even bonus points without saying he'd like
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: to have sex with them as well.
• 20:54
  Speaker 12: The government that the Primester leads is the first government
• 20:58
  Speaker 12: a nation's history which had an equality in terms of
• 21:03
  Speaker 12: the numbers of men and women in cabinet.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Well, if you believe that story, I mean it's even
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: more amazing that a prime minists are enlightened still speaks
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: of women like a bogan. Now I've heard commentators today
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: make more excuses. You know, Albaniz he was trapped by
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: this cunning podcaster, trapped by this young woman so pretty,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: you know, trapped Albanies he invited her into the lodge,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: invted a crash young woman with a shirt open to hear,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: who says she always us always asks questions. These questions
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: have her guess always basic research would have told Albanize
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: what was coming. And I tell you he has never
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: before had trouble not answering questions. Right, how often have
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: you been frustrated? Seems stonewall this time It's good like
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: that like you wanted to be down with the kids,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: you know, DJ Elbow again, I mean lucky for ALBINIZI
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: that is in Fiji today, when is they're not going
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: to get peppered with questions from journalists where we could
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: get away with issuing a statement. And this is days
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: after the interview. Mind you saying simply six words, I
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: apologize unequivalently for the comments, full su nothing further.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Just forget he ever said it.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I mean Labor shore will because what counts there is
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: not the principal but the side join me is Steve Connor,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: a former Labor senator and cabinet minister, and Michael Danby,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: former federal Labor politician and chairman then of the Joint
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Stephen to tricky one for you.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: First, you are a master of the dark arts of
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: managing public messages. So you tell me where are Labor's feminists,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: where is Labour's Minister for women?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: And why do I hear from them crickets?
• 22:51
  Speaker 13: Well, firstly, I think the PM is unreservedly apologized. No
• 22:56
  Speaker 13: MIDI mouth no, you know I if I've offended anybody
• 22:59
  Speaker 13: those as straight?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: No, I was wrong? Was straight?
• 23:03
  Speaker 13: I was wrong, So I think I think in terms
• 23:05
  Speaker 13: of his response appropriate. I think if he had his
• 23:08
  Speaker 13: time over again, he probably wouldn't have wanted to do
• 23:13
  Speaker 13: the interview. But the podcast world is it's probably anathemat
• 23:20
  Speaker 13: of you and me, Andrew and probably Michael. It's not
• 23:22
  Speaker 13: the world I live in, but it's a world that
• 23:24
  Speaker 13: you know, young people particularly communicate. So I think it
• 23:28
  Speaker 13: was certainly a very untidy interview. He's apologized unreservedly, and
• 23:35
  Speaker 13: I've got.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: To say, step your standards. Scathing.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: That is a scathing, scaming assessment from your standards. But
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Michael Danby, let's let's face facts. He wanted to talk
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: to this woman. He knew what a stick was, he
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: saw her dress like that, he heard the question. He's
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: got decades of experience and not answering questions. He answered
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: this one. What does that tell you about him?
• 24:02
  Speaker 14: It was crass, it was infantile, and it was deeply unseerious.
• 24:07
  Speaker 14: How did that person get into the lodge. What it
• 24:09
  Speaker 14: shows you is the dumbing down of politics that in
• 24:12
  Speaker 14: order to appeal to the youth vote, he thinks he's
• 24:15
  Speaker 14: got to do these ridiculous interviews. No albo raise the
• 24:20
  Speaker 14: standard be a bigger person. I'm disgusted at this interview,
• 24:24
  Speaker 14: but I'm more disgusted about what he said about our
• 24:27
  Speaker 14: greatest ally, the Japanese Prime minister, the woman Japanese Prime Minister.
• 24:32
  Speaker 14: I hope he declared the twenty five thousand dollars Mellon
• 24:35
  Speaker 14: that he got as a present from her.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'd better go and check what he said. I'll
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: do that. Tell people tomorrow.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Stephen too, there's something more serious in world politics. You
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: are chairman of the Australian professional leagues all the main
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: soccer competitions. Congratulations, I won't ask you about this soccer
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: is because that penalty arrang it was just a disgrace.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow morning in the World Cup, the US team is
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: going to play Belgium. They're going to have their star
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: striker of following Blogan even though he got a red
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: card in his last game and under the normal rules
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: and I played soccer, that means you missed their next game.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: But Donald Trump ranged the boss of FIFA, the governing body,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: to complain to the man who's sucked up to him
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: big time by giving him Trump the FIFA Peace Prize.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: This is this is that idiot for President. This is
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: your price, this is your peace prize.
• 25:36
  Speaker 14: That is also a beautiful medal for you that you
• 25:40
  Speaker 14: can wear everywhere you want to go.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Johnny Infantino, now that phone call to him worked, Flaren
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: can now play tomorrow, and the Belgian's soccer body and
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the team's coach, they're furious, saying this is against the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: roles have.
• 25:56
  Speaker 13: Looked per sus Rieco es.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: O memoir.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Now, Stephen taking a risk is I don't know if
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Fantino is your best mate, but is this political corruption
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: at the World Cup?
• 26:22
  Speaker 13: Well, I think it just shows that Donald Trump can
• 26:25
  Speaker 13: corrupt even the World Cup. But as for Infantina, he's
• 26:28
  Speaker 13: been sucking up to Donald Trump for years now. Something
• 26:34
  Speaker 13: might say, well, look, his job was to keep a
• 26:37
  Speaker 13: slightly unstable president on side.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: You have the migration issues in and out the Iranian team.
• 26:44
  Speaker 13: Lots of people stopped at the borders, entire nations black
• 26:47
  Speaker 13: man from turning up, and that he had to just
• 26:50
  Speaker 13: you know, kiss his ass on this one. But it
• 26:53
  Speaker 13: is it is just so deeply disturbing that the integrity
• 26:57
  Speaker 13: of tomorrow's match has been tainted tragically. People talk about
• 27:01
  Speaker 13: a match many many decades ago, but in actual fact,
• 27:05
  Speaker 13: FIFA did it quite recently. Ronaldo, you know, probably the
• 27:09
  Speaker 13: second best player in history over the last thirty years,
• 27:16
  Speaker 13: was actually suspended for three matches just before the beginning
• 27:19
  Speaker 13: of the World Cup, which would have meant that he
• 27:21
  Speaker 13: would have missed the first two group matches, And because
• 27:26
  Speaker 13: they wanted to as much publicity a noise around the
• 27:29
  Speaker 13: World Cup, they actually did exactly the same thing for
• 27:32
  Speaker 13: Ronaldo and he got to play the first two matches
• 27:36
  Speaker 13: of the group stage before they were eliminated.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: So as you can see, it's not just you know, corrupt.
• 27:44
  Speaker 13: Us politics here, it's about what gives us the best publicity,
• 27:48
  Speaker 13: what gives us the best coverage. You know, when you
• 27:50
  Speaker 13: set your soul like that Infantino, he's damaged integrity. No
• 27:57
  Speaker 13: matter who wins tomorrow, that matches tainted. I hope Belgium
• 28:02
  Speaker 13: win and I hope they win well because it just
• 28:07
  Speaker 13: really casts a dark shadow over the last.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Sixteen in the tournament. When if America win and go on.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Like it was to become a past, go Belgium, Go
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Belgium and Michael In a way, it's a real insight
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: into the Trump presidency and the corrupting influence on so
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: much of geopolitics.
• 28:30
  Speaker 14: Sadly it is Andrew four hundred million dollar planes from Qatar,
• 28:33
  Speaker 14: billions of dollars from bitcoin and this crooked act. Well,
• 28:37
  Speaker 14: one funny thing will come out of this. If the
• 28:40
  Speaker 14: French win the Belgian and they may go to war.
• 28:45
  Speaker 14: It might be the one time when France can't surrender.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: That's a good Michael Baby, Steve Connoran, thank you very
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: much to you both.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I actually think Portugal is still in the in the
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: World Cup. I think we'll check that for you. I'm
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: pretty sure it is. Yeah, they are, so, I think
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Steven got a bit excited there after the break. How
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: many soldiers does it take to just change a light bulb?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what defense bureaucrats say about that, and
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I tell you it should scare you. So here is
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: China today test firing and nuclear capable ballistic missile. That's
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: how advanced it now is warning us that things could
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: get very ugly for us, very quickly. And that wouldn't
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: naturally make you wonder if our military it's not just
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: equipped to meet this challenge, but nimble enough as well
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: to react very fast.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: So this grilling last.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Week of top defense Department bureaucrats are grilling by Liberal
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Senator Jess Collins.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Should scare you.
• 29:59
  Speaker 15: I'm a combat engineer on a base and a light
• 30:03
  Speaker 15: bulb goes, What do I do?
• 30:07
  Speaker 16: You would log a job on Service Connect, which is
• 30:09
  Speaker 16: an app that we have, or on the internet, the
• 30:12
  Speaker 16: Defense Internet, and somebody would come out and change your
• 30:15
  Speaker 16: light bulb for you.
• 30:17
  Speaker 15: Somebody on base.
• 30:18
  Speaker 16: Yes they might not be permanently based on the base.
• 30:21
  Speaker 16: They might serve as a range of other sites. But yes,
• 30:24
  Speaker 16: somebody on base would come and change the likeloab.
• 30:26
  Speaker 15: Why can't I change it myself? If I am a
• 30:30
  Speaker 15: combat engineer, why can't I change the light bulb?
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Where would they estore it? They said? Where all the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: light bulbs?
• 30:39
  Speaker 15: You know?
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Someone else to store them and fine them. And but
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: it could get.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Joining me a Lisa Goddard, former foreign correspondent and founder
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: of it Oni Media, and Scarne you so dedictated Georgia.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, Lisa, what does that tell you?
• 30:53
  Speaker 17: Well, thank goodness they have an app, Andrew as well,
• 30:55
  Speaker 17: I can say, my goodness. May look they need to
• 30:59
  Speaker 17: be taught process of using an app or doing endless
• 31:02
  Speaker 17: amounts of paperwork. What we need our troops to be
• 31:05
  Speaker 17: trained in is actually defending this country. And right now,
• 31:08
  Speaker 17: if you look at what's happened with China today, we've
• 31:10
  Speaker 17: got around fifty eight thousand defense personnel in this country.
• 31:13
  Speaker 17: China has two million. So the scale of that alone
• 31:17
  Speaker 17: is frightening enough. Never mind that you've got bureau quotes.
• 31:19
  Speaker 17: They're proudly sitting there and saying, well, we have an
• 31:22
  Speaker 17: app and that's how we manage to change light bulbs.
• 31:24
  Speaker 17: It is a joke, and it is actually quite shameful.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: It is so extraordinary, Tinka. These are combat engineers. They
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: do things like taking you know, finding and detecting and
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: disarming minds and things like that, you know, bridge building
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: or whatever. And they can't change a light globe under
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: this army command.
• 31:47
  Speaker 11: Let me summarize this for you, Andrews.
• 31:49
  Speaker 18: So we've got a situation where our defense personnel can't
• 31:52
  Speaker 18: change a light bulb by themselves without having to go
• 31:54
  Speaker 18: through an intranet system or you know, take a ticket
• 31:57
  Speaker 18: through your wrap and wait until somebody comes and say
• 32:00
  Speaker 18: the day for your light bulb. They use gender neutral
• 32:03
  Speaker 18: language in the ADF. You were asked for your pronouns
• 32:07
  Speaker 18: when you sign up to the ADF your allowed gender
• 32:09
  Speaker 18: neutral uniforms, you are allowed to take fitness tests for
• 32:12
  Speaker 18: your identified gender. And we've got China on the other
• 32:16
  Speaker 18: side of the world right now firing off nuclear capable
• 32:20
  Speaker 18: ballistic missiles, firing off flares off the coast of Australia.
• 32:24
  Speaker 18: And right now they must be sitting back absolutely laughing
• 32:27
  Speaker 18: their heads off that we are quabbling in Australia over
• 32:30
  Speaker 18: whether or not somebody from the ADF can change their
• 32:32
  Speaker 18: own light bulb. They are laughing at us as our
• 32:35
  Speaker 18: as our enemies.
• 32:36
  Speaker 11: We look weak and woeful.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I've wonded with that.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: China's got an idea now and develop its own at
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: to just pop every light bulb in the fence headquarters
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: and you know, attack while they're running around filling in forms.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Who replaces themme? Really, it's just so.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Stupid, Lisa, the Prime Minister talking about look kinda jos
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: for the language, but this is what the Prime Minister
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: actually agreed to, this language shagging.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Carlie Minogue.
• 33:08
  Speaker 17: Your reaction, Yeah, it's disgusting. It's not statesmen like at all.
• 33:12
  Speaker 17: And Anthony Elberinizi is a wise enough for you would
• 33:14
  Speaker 17: hope that he would be a wise enough media performer
• 33:17
  Speaker 17: to recognize the trap that he was being led into
• 33:20
  Speaker 17: and to bridge away from it.
• 33:21
  Speaker 19: He should not have answered the question.
• 33:23
  Speaker 17: I can't imagine the conversation that was had with Jodie
• 33:25
  Speaker 17: that night when he realized what he'd said and what
• 33:27
  Speaker 17: he'd know what was now being pushed out around the world.
• 33:29
  Speaker 17: The BBC are reporting this for goodness sake. It makes
• 33:32
  Speaker 17: the office of the Prime Minister in this country it
• 33:34
  Speaker 17: look like a joke. And I want to say, where's
• 33:36
  Speaker 17: Katie Gallagher? Yeah, I searched around today. She won't comment
• 33:39
  Speaker 17: on this, so she's the Minister for Women, absolutely silent.
• 33:43
  Speaker 17: The left would be jumping up and down. You know,
• 33:45
  Speaker 17: you rightly talk about Tony Abbott and Winkgate. Well he
• 33:49
  Speaker 17: was described as sleazy and sexist and every word thrown
• 33:52
  Speaker 17: at him. But everybody's fairly quiet on this one, all
• 33:55
  Speaker 17: the usual suspects.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well absolutely speaking of some of the reaction,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: look at this, Deniker, it's not just the alban EASi.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Here's the president of this supposedly women friendly progressive Labor
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: party in the National President this morning, former Treasurer Wayne
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Swan reacting to this.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I haven't looked at this guy, do.
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: You think harmless fun or maybe not very statesmen like
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: for the Prime Minister to be talking about shagging Kylie Minogue.
• 34:24
  Speaker 18: Well, I wouldn't be talking about the word about nine Air,
• 34:30
  Speaker 18: but yeah, I mean, would she have any interest in him?
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: I don't know, Yeah, I wouldn't if.
• 34:36
  Speaker 19: He should be so likey really, Lisa taken away, I'm speechless.
• 34:47
  Speaker 19: It's very rare that it happens.
• 34:48
  Speaker 17: But oh my goodness, could you imagine if that was
• 34:51
  Speaker 17: somebody from the coalition, from the Liberal Party who had
• 34:53
  Speaker 17: said that the Guardian and nine and would all be
• 34:58
  Speaker 17: going mad at this calling for Albanesi to stand down
• 35:02
  Speaker 17: and resign from that position. And Wayne Swan, oh my goodness,
• 35:06
  Speaker 17: he thought he was being terribly clever by looking up
• 35:08
  Speaker 17: a lyric to Colein and Oak's song.
• 35:10
  Speaker 19: I want to see if she actually steps up and
• 35:11
  Speaker 19: says anything.
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: And what about Nicole Kidman.
• 35:14
  Speaker 17: She should be outraged that she was even on that
• 35:16
  Speaker 17: list as well.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, But you mentioned wink
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Kate Danika Winkgate, and we don't need to imagine how
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: label would react and how the media left would react,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: because we have a reaction to something their reaction at
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: the time to a much much more benign example. This
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: was Tony Abbott when he winked back at a radio
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: presenter when they both reacted to a call on talkback.
• 35:46
  Speaker 11: Here they are, I work on an adult line to
• 35:52
  Speaker 11: make ends meat.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: What was that?
• 35:56
  Speaker 19: Oh doesn't look good?
• 35:58
  Speaker 15: What a creep?
• 36:00
  Speaker 11: But a total creep came you know who works on
• 36:05
  Speaker 11: a sixth line?
• 36:06
  Speaker 15: Because I would be a little bit like, well, okay.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: It just adds to the gaff prone anything around women.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Tony Abbott. Can you imagine another world leader dropping the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: ball like this. He's mocking the people who dare to
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: criticize him.
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: It just shows that Tony Abbott doesn't get it.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: You accept the PM's explanation of them. I wasn't in
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the studio and didn't see what happened. I was looking
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: at John Say, he was smiling at me, and I
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: winked back at him. What I did was and you've
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: seen Tony Abbott's reaction.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: A bencher who does phone sex work to make ends
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: meet says, Tony Abbott is as sleazy as some of
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the people who call her Prime Minister. You're regretting yesterday's wink.
• 36:49
  Speaker 15: Yes, I think it's time he stepped down as the
• 36:54
  Speaker 15: Minister for women.
• 36:55
  Speaker 11: You can see that.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: And by the way, that long package show played which
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: made Tony Abbott look really really bad, you know, the.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Cuts and all that, that was actually done at the.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Time by the ABC. That's how seriously they took it. So, Deniker,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: is there a difference in the reaction there to an
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: innocuous wink and to Albanize's comments about wanting to shag
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Kylie Minogue?
• 37:24
  Speaker 18: Can I just say I love how they put it
• 37:25
  Speaker 18: all together as well with the song Gloria Andrew.
• 37:28
  Speaker 11: I mean, what a montage that was on the incredible stuff.
• 37:32
  Speaker 18: Look, the double standards here are incredible because the outrage
• 37:37
  Speaker 18: there from people like Tanya Plibasek, who had the nerve
• 37:40
  Speaker 18: this morning to she was tying herself in knots on Sunrise.
• 37:43
  Speaker 18: I'm sure that you saw she was asked about it
• 37:45
  Speaker 18: and she said, oh, well, I think we're just saying
• 37:48
  Speaker 18: that we're a fan of Kylie Minogue.
• 37:50
  Speaker 11: Yet there she's calling.
• 37:52
  Speaker 18: You know, she was calling for Tony Abbitt to apologize.
• 37:55
  Speaker 18: They wanted her to stand down. Sarah Hanson Young, But
• 37:57
  Speaker 18: this is typical of the left, isn't it. Is to
• 37:59
  Speaker 18: do as I say, not as I do approach, and
• 38:02
  Speaker 18: it's always they're going against the Conservatives, that is what
• 38:04
  Speaker 18: they do.
• 38:05
  Speaker 11: Now, look the language involved.
• 38:06
  Speaker 18: I do agree it is so inappropriate for a prime
• 38:10
  Speaker 18: minister to be talking about shagging on national television.
• 38:13
  Speaker 11: We look like the laughing stock of the world.
• 38:14
  Speaker 18: If he was your everyday bloke, nobody would care about.
• 38:17
  Speaker 11: That sort of language. But the fact is that this
• 38:19
  Speaker 11: is our prime minister.
• 38:21
  Speaker 18: Now, he would have known going into this interview with
• 38:23
  Speaker 18: a comedian that he was going to be throwing some curveballs.
• 38:26
  Speaker 18: He could have said, look, I'm not going to comment
• 38:29
  Speaker 18: on that, and then he doubled down and started talking
• 38:31
  Speaker 18: about his own sex life instead of being a gentleman
• 38:34
  Speaker 18: and saying, look again, I'm a gentleman, Please don't ask
• 38:37
  Speaker 18: me those sorts of questions. But he didn't think why
• 38:39
  Speaker 18: because he wants to be down with the cool kids.
• 38:41
  Speaker 18: He wants to be you know, the Taylor Swift. That
• 38:44
  Speaker 18: is his problem. So you know, he deserves a criticism
• 38:47
  Speaker 18: coming his way simply because it looks embarrassing.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: It was a bit too much people pleasing, wasn't it.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Don't you think Lisa that I don't think he wanted
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: to seem one cools he said, I know, it's just
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: a weak character there.
• 39:04
  Speaker 17: I actually think he thought he was being, as Danika said,
• 39:08
  Speaker 17: you know, one of the blokes or somehow relating to
• 39:10
  Speaker 17: you know, the average ossie. But I can tell you
• 39:12
  Speaker 17: what if that behavior and those sorts of comments, you
• 39:15
  Speaker 17: wouldn't get away with that in the corporate world. So
• 39:18
  Speaker 17: he wasn't in a part. But he is the prime
• 39:21
  Speaker 17: minister of this country and we do expect more, and
• 39:23
  Speaker 17: he should have had the smarts to not to be
• 39:25
  Speaker 17: led down that path. And why is he doing these
• 39:27
  Speaker 17: sorts of podcasts anyway? You know, we have enough difficulty
• 39:30
  Speaker 17: trying to get him to do some serious, so true,
• 39:32
  Speaker 17: hard form news interviews, but he's making the time to
• 39:36
  Speaker 17: sit down with the comedian and shoot the breeze on
• 39:39
  Speaker 17: topics that we really don't need to know about and
• 39:41
  Speaker 17: don't want to know about. And he's so cross the line.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Lisa got danikin Di Georgia. Thank you very much to
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: you both.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Before we get to the break, I've got to point out,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: by the way, another terrible week last week of home
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: selling an auction after the government's budget.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: You compare the same week over the past three years.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Ross Greenwood drew up.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: These stats, a big drop in auctions to just oney
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: three hundred offered for sale last week, and a big
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: drop off also in the clearest rate of just under
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: forty four percent. If you do the maths, this works
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: out to a forty percent drop in homes actually sold
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: at auction over the last year. After a package that
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: was meant to help people into homes, fewer people are
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: buying them. So if prices are falling, buyers are still vanishing.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Who on earth is being helped?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: After the break?
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson is going to give her second big overseas speech.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Why is she suddenly a star abroad? Paul and Hanson
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: yesterday flew to London to give her second big international
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: speech after the one in the US last October at
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's Mari Lago resort. This time her speeches to
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: this month's Conservative Political Action Conference, Big pricing tickets, and
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: she's expected to meet the Nigel Farage, leader of the
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: anti immigration reform Patty that's in Britain leading in the
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  Speaker 2: polls even more decisively than the Hanson has been until lately.
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  Speaker 2: Join Me is Monday Regular Talk TV host Samara Gil Samara,
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  Speaker 2: great to see you again. What is this conference and
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: why do they want to hear from Pauline Hanson.
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  Speaker 10: It's a great question, Andrew.
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  Speaker 20: Look, this is Sea pac This is a right wing
• 41:33
  Speaker 20: conference that happens kind of all around the world. Yes,
• 41:36
  Speaker 20: the last one was in Mara Lago. But I think
• 41:39
  Speaker 20: from a right wing perspective, this sort of should be
• 41:42
  Speaker 20: seen as Australia's conservative populist movement becoming part of a
• 41:47
  Speaker 20: broader international network and not an isolated domestic force. I mean,
• 41:52
  Speaker 20: Pauline Hanson has obviously risen in the polls massively. Her
• 41:56
  Speaker 20: and Farage have very very similar ideologies and policies. And
• 42:00
  Speaker 20: you know, we always say that the United Kingdom is
• 42:03
  Speaker 20: either five years ahead or five years behind, depending on
• 42:06
  Speaker 20: the issue to Australia. And I think Pauline's got that
• 42:09
  Speaker 20: quality where she is so quintessentially Australian that she's a
• 42:13
  Speaker 20: great export politically. And I think that you know, that
• 42:17
  Speaker 20: accent and sort of the verb that she has is
• 42:20
  Speaker 20: something that a lot of people respond to over here.
• 42:22
  Speaker 20: She's massively popular in the United Kingdom. I know that
• 42:26
  Speaker 20: all the talk show hosts want her on their show
• 42:28
  Speaker 20: because she generates headlines, she does good one liners, and
• 42:33
  Speaker 20: she is able to encapsulate the issues that are happening
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  Speaker 20: in Australia and really really communicate them effectively.
• 42:40
  Speaker 10: She is a bit of a superstar over here, Andrew.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Ah, but surely if Alban Easy or Angus Taylor went
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: over there, that'd get the same attention or not.
• 42:55
  Speaker 20: Look, I think we're in the era of personality politics
• 42:59
  Speaker 20: and it's all about you know, You've got Kemmi, Nigel,
• 43:03
  Speaker 20: you've got Pauline.
• 43:04
  Speaker 10: We're all on a first name basis with everyone, and.
• 43:06
  Speaker 11: I think to be ah, there you go, need that,
• 43:10
  Speaker 11: you need that.
• 43:11
  Speaker 20: And unfortunately Angus Taylor, as much as I have a
• 43:14
  Speaker 20: lot of time for the Conservative Party, it does not
• 43:18
  Speaker 20: read over here. So I think she's she's pushing it
• 43:21
  Speaker 20: on social media and it's going international.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Well wow wow, how interesting.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: But Nigel Ferraj you mentioned I'm just wondering how is
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: going because it's just been referred to the British Parliament's
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Standards what Standards watchdog about whether you know whether it's
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: cross the line not declaring help that he got with
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: accommodation and social media and other things from a very
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: rich cryptocurrency investor, but investors jailed once for agreeing to.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Launder drug money. They are even hopeful.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Reports from the media left that Nigel Faraj could quit
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: politics and they love that.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: What is the story?
• 44:05
  Speaker 10: There are really two stories going on.
• 44:07
  Speaker 20: One side of it can be framed as a political
• 44:09
  Speaker 20: witch hunt against Nigel Ferrag, the establishment not wanting him
• 44:15
  Speaker 20: to rise to power. You know that when you're an
• 44:17
  Speaker 20: issue for things like the Conservative Party and the Labor Party,
• 44:21
  Speaker 20: of course there's going to be a dossier that's presented
• 44:23
  Speaker 20: against you. On the other hand, there are things that
• 44:27
  Speaker 20: need to be looked into. Farage is currently being investigated
• 44:31
  Speaker 20: because there are a lot of expenses that he didn't
• 44:33
  Speaker 20: claim in the twelve months leading up to him becoming
• 44:36
  Speaker 20: an MP, which with our parliamentary.
• 44:38
  Speaker 10: Rules, you have to declare that.
• 44:41
  Speaker 20: There's a five million pound ten million Australian dollar donation
• 44:46
  Speaker 20: that was made by crypto billionaire Christopher Harborne, who in
• 44:49
  Speaker 20: the past has donated to people like Boris Johnson and
• 44:53
  Speaker 20: has a keen interest in politics. Over the weekend, this
• 44:57
  Speaker 20: guy called Posh George George Kotchral, who is a very
• 45:01
  Speaker 20: shady individual, someone who tried to actually blackmail the FBI
• 45:06
  Speaker 20: inadvertently one who was trying to launder money and then
• 45:09
  Speaker 20: served nine years in prison in America for it. Has
• 45:13
  Speaker 20: also been kind of bankrolling Farage in some sort of way,
• 45:16
  Speaker 20: allowing him to stay at his place near Buckingham Palace
• 45:20
  Speaker 20: and funding things like social media managers.
• 45:22
  Speaker 10: So there are questions to be asked.
• 45:24
  Speaker 20: Farage is someone who says that he can't be bought
• 45:26
  Speaker 20: by the establishment, he is the man of the people. Well,
• 45:30
  Speaker 20: it does contradict when you're being sort of bought out
• 45:33
  Speaker 20: by all these billionaires. I think what we really need
• 45:36
  Speaker 20: to ask is are these billionaires getting behind Farage because.
• 45:40
  Speaker 10: They appreciate what he says?
• 45:42
  Speaker 20: Or is it because they want to become the next
• 45:44
  Speaker 20: oligarchs of the UK and get government contracts if they
• 45:47
  Speaker 20: get Farage into office.
• 45:49
  Speaker 10: And I think, look, I have been around constituencies.
• 45:52
  Speaker 20: It is rubbing people the wrong way, especially the average
• 45:54
  Speaker 20: working man who couldn't even think of ten million dollars
• 45:57
  Speaker 20: hitting their bank account.
• 45:59
  Speaker 10: And we're a country of tall poppy syndrome. Just like Australia.
• 46:03
  Speaker 20: You don't want to see someone doing far better than you.
• 46:06
  Speaker 20: We're not like America where Trump's just declared that he
• 46:09
  Speaker 20: made two billion dollars last year off the back of
• 46:12
  Speaker 20: the American people.
• 46:13
  Speaker 10: So I think it dark days are ahead.
• 46:15
  Speaker 20: But if Barrage can push through this and twist the
• 46:18
  Speaker 20: narrative in his direction, then he will be okay.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the ten million dollars, he says, there's no strings attachment.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Who gives away ten million dollars no matter how rich
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: you are without expecting a little something somewhere down the line.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: We've talked before, Samara about two tier policing. We talked
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: particularly how police arrested a dying teenager in Britain and
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: not the Sikh man who had stabbed him, and then
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: falced and accused him of racial abuse. Now there's a
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: media fuss about a drunk, young white guy who was
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: confronted by four men. This is in Birmingham, confronted by
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: four men, pulled to the ground and punched. But then
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: please meialy rised him, not the others, and challenged him
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: when he lashed out to one of the officers, apparently
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: mistaking her. It seems to me for one of his attackers.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: But am I missing the real story behind this?
• 47:13
  Speaker 10: Look?
• 47:13
  Speaker 20: I mean I think that this guy, he's been charged
• 47:17
  Speaker 20: for assaulting an emergency worker. But there was massive criticism
• 47:22
  Speaker 20: when this video came out because it does kind of
• 47:24
  Speaker 20: show that it's quite cust it well, it's not cut
• 47:26
  Speaker 20: and dry, but when you see this female police officer
• 47:29
  Speaker 20: who is about two heads shorter than him, may I add,
• 47:32
  Speaker 20: I mean, I've got a lot of time for female
• 47:33
  Speaker 20: police officers, but I almost think it's unfair to put
• 47:36
  Speaker 20: someone like her in that situation. She tries to restrain him,
• 47:40
  Speaker 20: the other people just run off, and it is one
• 47:43
  Speaker 20: of those situations where you have got one white guy
• 47:46
  Speaker 20: and a bunch of black men around him, and they
• 47:50
  Speaker 20: didn't seem.
• 47:51
  Speaker 10: To get restrained. So the public is furious about this.
• 47:54
  Speaker 20: I think we need to just like we were just
• 47:57
  Speaker 20: a couple weeks ago talking about the Manchester case where
• 48:00
  Speaker 20: it was trial by video and Twitter and not trial
• 48:04
  Speaker 20: by an actual jury or a quarter a judge or
• 48:06
  Speaker 20: any barristers involved. We need to actually, as we find
• 48:09
  Speaker 20: out more information, assess what actually happened here. But it's
• 48:14
  Speaker 20: difficult for police to make those judgments.
• 48:16
  Speaker 19: Now.
• 48:16
  Speaker 20: They ask it about being accused of racism, and I
• 48:19
  Speaker 20: think they would prefer to keep their jobs safe then
• 48:23
  Speaker 20: actually do the right thing in some circumstances.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: And maybe there's a natural preference to go arrest the
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: one guy rather than try to chase the four. If
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: you don't feel a little bit physically incapable of confrontation,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: it's much easier that way.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Samara Gil thank you so much for your time.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: That is it for me, coming up next to the
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Sherry but hosted by James McPherson.
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  Speaker 1: Good Night,