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LIVE: Oklahoma Sooners Embarrass Themselves AGAIN | "Win" 14-6 | Ugliest Play EVER? · Sooner or Later Sports

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to do another one. These boys stink,
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  Speaker 1: on today's episode, we've got a lot of great things
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  Speaker 1: to talk about because yes, yesterday stunk Oklahoma wins 14
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  Speaker 1: to six. I don't know what to do more about
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  Speaker 1: this offense, man. Besides just, you know, complain more. The
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  Speaker 1: defense is going to keep saving us. And at some
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  Speaker 1: point that's going to fall apart. And I actually think
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  Speaker 1: that could possibly be this week, but Hey, I got
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  Speaker 1: there at America's number one sports application, Coop, happy Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: my man. You look nice and bright today. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I will say this. Jay, in honor of the
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma offense, I'm going to bring something back that you
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  Speaker 2: gifted me because it just shows the fact that you
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  Speaker 2: put an effort behind something doesn't mean that the execution
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  Speaker 2: and the final result is satisfactory. And I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: do it all day long. I'm going to wear the
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  Speaker 2: very first hat you gave me. And it looks like, um,
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  Speaker 2: it would be on a, um, maybe a baby's like
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  Speaker 2: maybe six month old pictures.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: It is, I'm going to wear it the whole episode
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  Speaker 2: because anytime anybody's like, what the hell is Coop wearing?
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  Speaker 1: On his head.
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  Speaker 2: I want you to say, oh, well, yeah. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it just, we had, I mean, everything seemed like it
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to happen correctly. And this is, this is,
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  Speaker 2: this is all the way on. And it is, it's
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  Speaker 2: not even connected in the back.
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  Speaker 1: Like, So it's that bad. Yeah. I remember that. God, that's,
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  Speaker 1: that's awesome. Thank you for, for that. Yeah. It's great.
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  Speaker 1: Cause that's a good microcosm of today. This has just
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  Speaker 1: been abysmal two weeks in a row. It's like, how
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  Speaker 1: do you go from what we did at UTEP and saying, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to do things in that nature. to just
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  Speaker 1: going backward, backward, backward. Yes, Richard, we need to just
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  Speaker 1: bring back the bone. It feels like the bone would
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  Speaker 1: be more successful right now. But that is a beautiful hat, Coop.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for the laugh and all the pain that
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  Speaker 1: I've had. I had to pull out the Patrick Swayze shirt,
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  Speaker 1: pain don't hurt, from Roadhouse, if you know, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's literally just been the mantra as I walk around
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  Speaker 1: the last two days. So Oklahoma did win. contrary to
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  Speaker 1: popular belief it was on a technicality though it's technically
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  Speaker 1: because the numbers say we had 14 and they had
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  Speaker 1: six but we 100 lost um as an organization by
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  Speaker 1: the fact that we let new mexico hold us to
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  Speaker 1: 14 points granted new mexico will probably win nine or
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  Speaker 1: ten games this season but that don't matter no one
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  Speaker 1: gives a shit about that no one cares about that
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  Speaker 1: part Trying not to use too much foul language because
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  Speaker 1: I do know people that watch and listen with their
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  Speaker 1: children around. And I totally understand because I do as
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  Speaker 1: well cringe when I hear people cursing whenever I have
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  Speaker 1: my small nieces and nephews with me. Because my kids, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they hear me cuss all the time at this point.
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  Speaker 1: But I try to avoid it like the plague just
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  Speaker 1: out of respect to them and the parents that do
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  Speaker 1: like to listen with their kiddos. But Coop, this was like...
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  Speaker 1: Dog poo mixed with cat poo mixed with horse manure
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  Speaker 1: dipped in dog water, sprinkled with kitty litter, and served
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  Speaker 1: all across the front yard. Like, the front yard just stank.
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  Speaker 1: It's so bad. And I actually, after going live with
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  Speaker 1: John on Locked On Sooners, I went to sleep, woke
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  Speaker 1: up this morning, went back and rewatched a few spots,
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  Speaker 1: vomited in my mouth. But then I was fine. It
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  Speaker 1: was like I had an upset stomach and I felt
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  Speaker 1: better after realizing that ain't ish I could do about it.
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  Speaker 1: Ain't ish I could wish for. Ain't ish anybody. The
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  Speaker 1: only thing I need now is for the defense to implode.
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  Speaker 1: Then we can just start from scratch once again. But
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  Speaker 1: that's the one thing I don't think is going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: I think the defense is going to maintain where they're at,
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  Speaker 1: and that's going to be the most unfortunate part this season.
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  Speaker 2: Competitive depth. That's for everybody. I'm helping you all out.
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  Speaker 2: Competitive depth. Competitive depth.
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  Speaker 1: You're trying to get people drinking. I don't want people
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  Speaker 1: drinking right now.
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  Speaker 2: In vino veritas, Jay. In vino veritas.
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  Speaker 1: In vino veritas. So let's start with the biggest problem
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  Speaker 1: here is the offense. We'll leave with that and we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk defense. I think a lot of them do deserve
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  Speaker 1: some praise and them trying to figure this stuff out.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, like I know people want to hear this.
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  Speaker 1: They want to hear that Ben Arbuckle was fired or
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  Speaker 1: Ben Arbuckle is going to be fired or Ben Arbuckle
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  Speaker 1: is going to be cut within a certain amount of time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to tell you right now, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he's going anywhere. I don't think anybody on the
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  Speaker 1: staff is going anywhere until the season is over. I
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  Speaker 1: do think there will be reassignments. I do think that
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  Speaker 1: there will be adjustments. But I don't think that anybody
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  Speaker 1: actually gets fired anytime soon. Because I have this very
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  Speaker 1: funny feeling about the Georgia game coming up. I have
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  Speaker 1: a very funny feeling, and I hate it. But outside
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  Speaker 1: of that, they stunk. Offensive line looks like they were confused. Bill,
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  Speaker 1: what are we doing? The wide receivers had moments of
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  Speaker 1: getting open, but for the most part, they couldn't block.
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  Speaker 1: And I think what upset me the most, Coop, is
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  Speaker 1: that whatever this virus is that's going around, whatever these
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  Speaker 1: cooties are, of offensive incompetence hit the tight ends because
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't block Ish either. It's like everybody forgot how
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  Speaker 1: to do it. They were getting grabbed and immediately ripped
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  Speaker 1: to the side and everybody's missing on their pulls. They
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  Speaker 1: weren't pulling fast enough. It was like everything, as BV said,
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  Speaker 1: there was no rhythm, no cohesion, no nothing. It was
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  Speaker 1: just all over the flipping place. And then guess what happened?
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  Speaker 1: The defense bailed him out. it's like having that sibling
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  Speaker 1: that super wealthy and as soon as the other siblings
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  Speaker 1: that decide to screw up, get themselves in a whole
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  Speaker 1: bunch of debt, they pick up the phone and that
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  Speaker 1: sibling's like, all right, I got you. I got you.
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  Speaker 1: I got you. But at some point, they're going to
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  Speaker 1: be like, hey man, I can't do nothing for you.
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  Speaker 1: Like at some point, I got to cut you off.
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  Speaker 1: And at this point, I need preventables to make that
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  Speaker 1: type of change. Like I said, firing, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to do that. It just leads to more
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  Speaker 1: change in a level of change that probably wouldn't be good.
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  Speaker 1: But you still need to make some adjustments and make
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  Speaker 1: some replacements. Take out Mateer. You need to take out,
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  Speaker 1: you need to have someone else help with play calling
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  Speaker 1: going forward. I know they help with game planning, but
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  Speaker 1: play calling. Stop calling plays from last season. Stop it.
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  Speaker 1: I saw somebody mention it looked like plays that were
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  Speaker 1: being called from last season. Again, stop it. The new
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  Speaker 1: people don't know it. And here we are. Here we are.
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  Speaker 2: Like three points I'd like to make. John Mateer at
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  Speaker 2: points in the game was the best player on offense
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  Speaker 2: and the worst player on offense. Um, it's crazy as
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  Speaker 2: you look back and you see, well, I mean, he,
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  Speaker 2: you know, threw for two 38 at two touchdowns. Um,
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  Speaker 2: the two interceptions were just what, what the, you know, what, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, last year I said, I'm not going to fall, um,
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  Speaker 2: victim to the, uh, to the, uh, I guess you
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  Speaker 2: would say the, the hype of the preseason, um, and
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  Speaker 2: we heard so many things that I just now wonder,
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  Speaker 2: is there anybody on the offensive side of the ball that,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, that understands what good offense looks like?
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  Speaker 2: Because it doesn't comply. I will say, Satania had a
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  Speaker 2: good game, minus the punt fumble again. He had another
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  Speaker 2: one of those where it looks like he– Thought uh
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  Speaker 2: i'll just put the bare minimum effort here and um
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  Speaker 2: and then it then it kind of went south but
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  Speaker 2: after that i mean it's like him and it's just
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  Speaker 2: more of what we saw last year and uh you
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  Speaker 2: know it makes me think of trent dilfer winning a
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  Speaker 2: super bowl it makes me think of jj mccarthy winning
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  Speaker 2: a national championship you know, some of the slappies at
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks that, you know, have gone out there and been
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  Speaker 2: able to at least just will themselves, their team to
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  Speaker 2: a victory. But it's every, the, the, the boils down
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  Speaker 2: to every fear that we had of what this game
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  Speaker 2: could look like. I wish we would have got to
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  Speaker 2: what I, I wish we would have at least done
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  Speaker 2: what I feared, you know, like a 28 to, six
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  Speaker 2: game would have at least been like, well, that's what
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  Speaker 2: I was afraid of. So watching this game and thinking like, man,
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  Speaker 2: there's a chance that we can actually lose this game, uh, was, was,
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  Speaker 2: was crazy. It makes me wish I would have had
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  Speaker 2: my surgery on Friday this week. Um, that way I know, right.
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  Speaker 2: And then like, uh, you know, so that being said, um, yeah, it's, it's,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know of anybody on the offensive side of
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  Speaker 2: the balls where I'm like, all right, I feel good
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  Speaker 2: with you being here next year. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: that's fair for Dylan McCullough and Jason Witten because, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it looked like the tight ends out there were just
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  Speaker 2: bigger versions of Jaron Kanick from last year that did
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  Speaker 2: great in the receiving game, but they were not very
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  Speaker 2: good blocking. And I can promise you this. There is nobody.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's joking about Georgia running, like, drills during the timeout.
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  Speaker 1: They really did against Arkansas. That was really bad. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That was really bad.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, Arkansas held it close for, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for like a short bit in the first half. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you got nothing left to lose the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if– I don't know if, you know,
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  Speaker 2: at this point last year, we are sitting here thinking
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  Speaker 2: John Mateer has a chance to win the Heisman. Oh,
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: my gosh, we could make the playoffs. Now, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's just– it's embarrassing. And I'm tired of coach speak.
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  Speaker 2: I'm tired of– all that nonsense. Like, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: would be good for at least Brent Venables to come
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  Speaker 2: out and say, you know what? We failed everybody across
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  Speaker 2: the board because the offensive side of the ball being
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  Speaker 2: so bad, like it just, I don't think I can
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  Speaker 2: believe anything. If they said we have a great week
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  Speaker 2: of practice or a bad week of practice, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: what's the differentiation between the two? Because we have not.
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  Speaker 2: We have not seen anything this year that made you
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  Speaker 2: feel like you were happy about.
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  Speaker 1: Anything.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, the offense was offensive. And just because you're
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: going out there, you know, again, we're going to hear
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  Speaker 2: that guys are going to come back. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: have the offensive line kind of set up to do well. So, anyway, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's bad.
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  Speaker 1: It's bad.
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  Speaker 2: John Mateer, and yeah, for any of our Texas fans
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  Speaker 2: out there, Arch Manning is 12 yards more passing than
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  Speaker 2: John Mateer does this year.
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  Speaker 1: Which is really bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A few people I know, Texas fans, they're like, dog,
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  Speaker 1: we've got questions. We're not very happy either. Y'all are
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: in the worst spot, but we are not happy. And
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, I totally get it. Totally understood that 100%.
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  Speaker 1: Makes sense. I'm with you on that. Scott, thank you
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: for the five bucks, please. People don't know how to
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: be a champion, what being a champion is. Oklahoma invented it.
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  Speaker 1: We need to get back to that mentality.
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: So you get offense coordinator that is not afraid to
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: force a quarterback to throw the ball deep. Like that's
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  Speaker 1: the one thing that I've always commended Elaine Kiffin or
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  Speaker 1: even Jeff Lebby, which so many people wanted him gone.
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  Speaker 1: I remember the chats. I remember the live streams that
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  Speaker 1: we did In 2023. And people were like. I need
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  Speaker 1: Levy gone. So many people did. Now look at us.
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  Speaker 1: Reaping what we sowed.
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  Speaker 2: On the hate of Jeff Levy.
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  Speaker 1: So with that being said. I recall. I recall. How
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  Speaker 1: everybody hated that. And I pointed out that, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: it's tough. It's tough to get a coach to match there. Like,
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  Speaker 1: very hard. It's extremely hard. And we're learning that lesson now.
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  Speaker 1: I just want a quarterback. I want a coach that
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  Speaker 1: will tell quarterbacks, just throw that time. My guy will
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  Speaker 1: be there. I promise you. Like I said, that's why
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  Speaker 1: I commend Lane Kiffin. That's why I commend Levy because
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  Speaker 1: they've always found quarterbacks that just didn't have a fear
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  Speaker 1: to throw the ball. Regardless of who it was, they
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  Speaker 1: would just throw it. Just throw it in there. Dylan
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  Speaker 1: Gabriel would just chunk it when you needed him to.
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  Speaker 1: When Jackson Ardo actually came to the game when Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Levy had him there, he told him to throw it
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  Speaker 1: here and guess what? He'd throw it and guess what?
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  Speaker 1: It was open. It's like they didn't let them think.
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  Speaker 1: They said throw. Throw it. And that's what it was.
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  Speaker 1: So it was like, that's just crazy to me that
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  Speaker 1: we just can't get to that point. It's just wild.
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  Speaker 2: It's, I mean, if you're an offensive recruit, maybe you're going, man,
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  Speaker 2: I could, I can do better than that right now.
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  Speaker 2: Like I can help you guys out better than this
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  Speaker 2: right now. And I don't understand that. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't understand a lot of the numbers, I was looking
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: through some like NFL box scores, uh, because I, I'm
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: not going to lie after the game, I watched a
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: little bit more football, but I was just kind of just,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of done. Uh, I watched the Ole
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  Speaker 2: Miss LSU game and, and then, you know, I turned
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: on a movie and just kind of, kind of just
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: zoned out for the rest of the night. Didn't watch
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: any football today. Uh, get at soccer. And then, uh,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I went to a Scottish festival here in Oakland and
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Tulsa and, Um, man, I just, it's, it's, there's so
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  Speaker 2: much here to where you're, I'm just looking at the
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  Speaker 2: box score and it's like what you would hope to
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: see from the running game. Like there's nothing there. They're like,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: there's no positive. I look here, there's no positive on
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: the running game. Um, the offensive line was offensive, you know, again.
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  Speaker 2: And so, yeah, um, I got nothing. I got nothing.
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  Speaker 2: I got nothing except for, I expect that somebody needs
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  Speaker 2: to probably take the offensive, you know, hirings off of
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  Speaker 2: the board. I don't care what, you know, an offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming Ben Arbuckle cannot turn things around because there's
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: just no tools to work with. You know, if your
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: job is here, you got to worry about your feet.
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  Speaker 2: You got to worry about your eyes. You got to
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: worry about your offensive line. You got to worry about
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: the blocking. You got to worry about Play calling, you've
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: got to worry about everything else. There's no chance that
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: he's set up for success, and that's, I think, why
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: you're seeing Michael Hawkins be successful where he's at right
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: now to this point because they don't have to worry
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: about it. And so, yeah, I think that you see
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  Speaker 2: a lot of folks fired would be a great opportunity
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  Speaker 2: for this offense. But I would also say this. I
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: want zero– I want Brent Venables to go to Jim
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Nagy and say, just fix it for me. I'll work
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: with whoever you give me, give them whatever, a decrease
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: in his salary, whatever it needs to happen. But, shit,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen– sorry, language, apologize. But I've seen USC fans
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  Speaker 2: throwing up, you know, if we could have Lincoln Riley
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  Speaker 2: be the OC, Brent Venables be the DC, and then
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  Speaker 2: a dog as the head coach, I think that we'd
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: have a better chance of winning a national championship on
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: both of those programs than the current standing. So– it's
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: that funny when USC fans are like now, you know,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: kind of shaking hands with OU fans and saying, Hey,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: if we just combined everything and have like a, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like a little get together situation, you know, maybe this
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  Speaker 2: team could be unstoppable. So, but I still think that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of position coaches on the offensive side of
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  Speaker 2: the ball, nobody gets, nobody gets anything. Nobody gets, nobody
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  Speaker 2: gets an excuse at this point anymore. Zero people.
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  Speaker 1: Zero. So funny how, like, I think Georgia's probably going
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: to do this too. They're going to run like cover
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  Speaker 1: zero and just blitz nonstop. Regardless of who's throwing the ball.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: They're going to just, no matter what, they're going to
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  Speaker 1: just blitz. Like, some are concerned about recruiting. I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: Because I think that there's going to be a change
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  Speaker 1: at that spot to where recruits can be like, I
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: can be the missing link. I can fix this. This
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: is how most people are. Most people are pretty cocky.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, offensive coordinators are, coaches are. Their mindset is,
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  Speaker 1: I can fix this. And so because they can fix it,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: they go out there and fix it. So on that note,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I need to see some fixes. Now I need some
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: adjustments made. Like, to me, the problem felt like there
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: was quiet quitting. People were just like, yeah, we want
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: this dude gone. So we're going to let's make it
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: bad for him and hopes that he's gone like no
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: um i think it's funny you think tony elliott would
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: lose leave a head coaching job to come here that's
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: not happening um but they should call cliff kingsbury Totally
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: take one of his offenses right now. I mean... Give
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: me Cliff.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: What was the first quote? I mean, the first chat participant.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Get a point every quarter. Touchdown a quarter.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: 28 points. Is that how many? We can probably win
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: every game that way. Like, y'all are going to be surprised.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, the biggest problem for us going up against
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Georgia is there's a chance that Georgia has the ball
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: for 40 minutes and we have it for 20. We
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: can avoid that. There's a chance that that game's way
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: closer than people like. It's going to be way more
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable than people think. The defense is still elite. Like
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: in this game, they played a whole bunch of freshmen
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: who really needed snaps. And I love, I listened to
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Teddy talk about it and he was like, man, I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: really wish Cole Sullivan was able to give it a
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: go because these are those vital snaps that he could
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: have leveraged just to clean himself up in preparation for
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: SEC play. Now, unfortunately, he's going to make those mistakes
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: that he would have made against New Mexico, against potentially Georgia, Texas, Kentucky, Florida,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: South Carolina, Mississippi State, et cetera. He needed to make
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: those mistakes early. So like a lot of the young
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: players now have on tape against UTEP, against New Mexico,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: things they need to clean up in preparation for the
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: bigger games. Like Michael Ford had moments, but he kept
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: missing on angles.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Uh, but on offense, sticking back to the main thing,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: keep the main thing, the main thing, the effort just
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: didn't feel like it was there. That's what it was.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Like I, I give props and I appreciate Satania. He
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: catches the deep touchdown. We'll talk about that in a minute,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: but he catches the touchdown. And as soon as he scores,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: he's just like, guys.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's not celebrate what just happened.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: We're not celebrating.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Get back to the sideline. He basically told them, go.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Just go.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: DJ, let's ride, y'all. Let's go back to the sideline.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Let's get everybody on the field and get this going.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I actually appreciate the fact that he was just like, hey, y'all.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: He just threw his hands down immediately just like this.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: It's... I... I've always joked about somebody needs to win
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: a sweepstakes so that you can call the first offensive
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: play of the football game. Well, congratulations, Sooner fans. You
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: got to help your quarterback out. You guys get the
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: assist and potentially what prevented a loss. But, yeah, the
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: effort's bad. I mean, like we said, this was every
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: single team that's facing this offense now, It's not scared.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: There's not going to be. We've we've talked about it
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: now for three years. Nobody's going to be more than
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: 20 yards past the line of scrimmage. Everybody's going to
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: be up on top and everybody is going to say,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, prove it. And going forward, going forward. I mean,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: that's what's what we're going to see.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Cover zero defenses. Like literally they're just stacking the box.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: That's what New Mexico did in this game. And if
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: you're wondering why the run game didn't go so well
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: is they literally was stacking the box the entire time.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: It's at the box deck. And it was just like, no, no,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you can, you can run a couple of times and
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: get a couple of good plays. Feel good about yourself.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: We just want to have a whole bunch of dudes
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: sitting here and we're going to be waiting. Our whole
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: purpose is waiting. We don't care about paths. We don't
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: care about routes being ran and, I mean, shoot material
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: had what 70 something percent completion percentage in this game
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: or something stupid. And they were just like, nah, we
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: don't care that. We don't care what you're doing. What
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: we care about is stop us. Throw the ball. I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: want you to throw the ball on us. If you
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: throw the ball on us, maybe we'll respect you. But
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: they were like, nah, yeah, he's 19-25. 76% completion percentage
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: in this game.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: 76%.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: And they still said, nah, we want you to throw
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: the ball. You are not going to beat us in
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: a run. You are going to throw the ball. And
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: so they stacked the box, which is crazy work. But
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: it's smart. It's genius. Georgia's probably going to do the same.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: They got freakish athletes. They can put their corners on
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: an island. Throw the ball. The double dog dare, you
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: know Sykes.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Versus New Mexico and UTEP, our defense knows there's not
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: a chance that you're going to do anything. Brent Venables
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: was rolling out Nico Jandreau, I mean, like first quarter.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Markel Ford, yeah, he had a bunch of young dudes
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: We were just rotating everybody on defense. And it made
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: me think that Brent knew that we could throw anybody
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: out there on defense and it wasn't going to matter.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: The biggest play that they had of the game was
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the 40-yard pass to Cade Keith, and that was on
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Markell Ford a little bit. He took a wrong angle,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: tied in, catches the ball up over the middle. Markell
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: got back. Markell's going to be a great player, going
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: to be a phenomenal player. Yep. But that's literally that
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: confidence against the New Mexico offense from our defense is
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: what every defense that we play on our schedule, including UTSA,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: including New Mexico, everybody is going to go against us
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and go, you may get yourself a long pass at
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: some point and you may get a long run at
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: some point, but we know that we're better than your
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: offense the moment we step on the field and we're
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: not scared of it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: That's it. Throw the ball. We double dog dare you.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: And it's so bad when teams do that to you.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: When teams keep doing that over and over, it's like, Well, guys,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: maybe we should figure out something else. But you know what?
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give some props, though, to the defense.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: They deserve a little bit of praise. Just a little bit.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Because they play their tails off, like I said, with
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: all those rotations. I'm going to pull up these stats
• 26:28
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• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
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• 28:20
  Speaker 1: given out here. Hold a second. Where is it? There
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: it is. Is that it? There it is. Coop, when
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I saw this, I smiled. David Stone finished this game
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: with eight tackle, total tackles, three solos, half a sack,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: two tackles for loss. Stone was all over the dang place. Like,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: all over the place. Stone was putting in work. They
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: had him stunting, and he was going around. I was
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: a lot more impressed than I thought. I was impressed
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: with the way that he played in this game. He
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: was all over the place. Of course, Owen Heineke, I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: feel like played every single snap of the game. I
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: was tired for him. I was like, dude, pull him.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Give me Dane Bathurst for a bit.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: He needed to leave.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Give me Dane Bathurst, please. We didn't get Dane Bathurst.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Let me see. Reggie Powers was all over the place.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Jaden Jackson was... literally eating doubles the entire game, pushing
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: people around, making it easy for everybody else to get there.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: He was putting in work. PJ was leveraging that from
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the attention that both Jaden and Stone was getting getting
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: around the edge he got a sack and a half
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: with one and a half on the tackles for loss
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: four total tackles he's involved in with the solo he
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: was on it you had some dudes working Taylor Wine
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: was disruptive. They were watching him. I could tell that
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the defense was focused on him. Yeah. But the defense worked.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy how much they were working. And
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: it was just enough this week. I think they threw
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: to Cortland's side twice. Oh, I think they threw to
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: his side four times. He gave up two catches. They
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: were like short passes. But they did not want to
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: go to Cortland. They kept going at Eli, though, like
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: a lot. I thought that was pretty funny.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: The bigger receiver, and they were giving him an opportunity
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: to go.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: They were trying hard to throw it at Eli the
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: entire time. But like you said earlier, they rotated a ton.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Like first quarter, you're seeing true freshmen out there. And
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: so this was the game. You go out there to
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: make mistakes and they were able to, yeah, make that happen.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, six sacks against that. So you got
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: six sacks in 19. They had 19 attempts from, you know,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: from a throwing perspective. They, they didn't try to throw
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: the ball very much. Uh, we knew it was going
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: to be, um, a heavy run game and you knew
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: it was going to be heavy run three quarterbacks coming in. Um,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: obviously nobody felt like that was going to go well. Um,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, yet a shout out, uh, Owen,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Owen was bad in a couple of plays because dude
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: was exhausted, just absolutely exhausted.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: He was beat.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Um, Omarion is another one that I kind of want
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: to point out from a timeout. David Stone and PJ,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: great games. Great games. David Stone was all over the place.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: You kind of felt like he did not want to
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: let this game go sideways, and he was going to
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: do everything in his power to do it. There were
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of times that I saw– there were a
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: couple of– what is it, the chop blocks they threw
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: at Jaden Jackson– We saw Jaden's mom finally post something,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I think, on Friday. You know, pictures of Jaden. Yeah.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: It's almost every single play. And I would say that
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Jaden does it the right way. He just puts his
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: nose down and goes again the next play. I mean,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I'm almost saying that with Jaden at some point, maybe
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: you need to start raising your arms in the air
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: and make yourself big and seen because you're getting held.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: He's getting held all the time. Um, he got, uh,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: there was one point where he was engaged in the
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: running back, really hit him about in the stomach and
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: any lower, I think it had been called the shot block. But, um, yeah,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: you saw guys, uh, Nesta. I mean, Nesta looked like
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: a young guy. Um, he looked like a guy who
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: had not been out there a lot. And there were
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: some times that his angle of pursuit was pretty bad,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: but then he had some really good ones, which is
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: what you're going to get with a young guy. Peyton Bowen.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Hey, I was actually about to talk about that. That
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: sequence he had, he had the... I actually was looking
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: at the All-22 and recorded a video. I'm going to
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: put it on socials later. But that was fantastic. And yes, Richard,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: the white gloves. I've talked about this. Y'all have heard
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: me talk about it on here numerous times. The white gloves.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: They leverage that. Teams use that. That's the gamesmanship they use.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Don't worry. Georgia will be wearing white gloves when they
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: play us as well. Even though they don't need to,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: they're going to wear the white gloves.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Gamesmanship. Makes me mad all the time. But... PB in
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: that play was fantastic. He was spying, and he saw
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: the quarterback fake the handoff and tried to run, and
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: he caught the angle, got his ankles to trip him up, boom,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: put him on the ground. I think it was like
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: a two-yard gain. Then the next play, he blitzed and
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: got that eight-yard sack. Oh, my goodness. Like, that was.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: And that was late.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: That was fourth quarter. That was... Big play to close
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: out the game. Like, I was just like, you still
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: got the energy. I mean, because it's deflating when your
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: offense being so abysmal overshadows how good you're doing on defense.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: But the good thing is that the NFL scouts don't
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: care about that. They want to see what you can
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: do when you're on the field on your side of
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: the ball. That's what they're looking for.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I remember, I mean, I want to say it was
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: either early 2000s, late 90s. The Bears had a really,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: really good defense. And they just couldn't find anything. Maybe
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: it was the Cutler years. But, no, Kyle Orton years.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: They just could not get anything out of their offense.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: And I remember fights breaking out on the sideline. And
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: that's something I'm starting to kind of worry about is,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: what does that conversation look like if you're a David
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Stone or if you're Owen Heineke? you know, Reggie Powers,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Jaden Jackson, Peyton Bowen, PJ. Like, if you're these guys, Taylor, like,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: if you're these guys, at what point do you go, like,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, Coach, can I go play tight end? I mean,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: if you're Taylor Wine, could you say, like, can I
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: just go block? Like, these guys are getting their asses
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: handed to them.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, he got an interception when he was dropping
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: back in coverage against South Carolina last year. So, I mean,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you know, he can catch.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: But I want to see blocking And Peyton Bowen also,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: he dropped a pick six. I don't know. I think
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: his body was really, really awkward. But if he catches
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: the ball, there's no chance he's getting tackled unless the
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: OU fans yelled at the defense or the offense to
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: tackle him or something like that.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a great jump.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: It's a little, I guess, like the microcosm where I
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: want to kind of My next complaint is when you
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: see young guys rotating in in quarter one right from
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: the get-go, you know you're– we're not going to see
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: that again this year. That's not going to happen any
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: more time this year. I expect that that list that
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: we're looking at right here on defense is going to
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: be about 25% shorter, if not a third shorter, because–
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: You can't do that mess going forward. Now, you may
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: see an Omarion Robinson. You may see a Nesta for
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: a couple plays, a Bishop Thomas. But I don't think
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: you're going to see all these other cats because I
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: think Brent Venables knew this is probably the last time
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: these guys are going to have a chance to be
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: out here unless they want to play in a blowout.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean us being– Us blowing people out.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: It's the other way around.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: It's going to be tired. Their goal is to make
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: every game respectable and not be just completely burnt out.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: That is what the goal is going to be going
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: forward for this team. It sucks, man. It sucks in
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the thought that... No matter how hard you work, the
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: other side's not going to pull their weight. And I
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: know a lot on the other side want to pull
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: their own weight. But again, it really looked like they're
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: just like, hey, man, get this dude up out of here.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Whatever's going to bring attention to this, man. Listen to us.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: The cries, the call is coming from the inside, people.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: They are telling us, hey, there's something wrong here.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Get rid of them.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm hoping that they figure that out because, yeah.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Georgia's going to be, we'll talk about Georgia on Wednesday's
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: show because I do have some ideas of what I
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: think Georgia might do in this game. And I'm going
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: to be honest, it's going to piss me off with
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: our offense on how there's a possibility they could perform
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: because long of the short, this offense sees success against
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: our defense in practice. Everybody else seems to not do
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: anything that our defense does when they play against us.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: The only ones, New Mexico did. They did a whole
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: bunch of stunning, and that was more so because they're undersized.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: So they had to.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: A ton of it. But we don't think we do
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: that in practice. I think we just go straight up.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: They practice that in other drills, if I'm correct. I
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: think that Georgia is going to go straight up nonstop.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: And I actually think that that may be a comfortable
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: look for our quarterbacks, regardless of who plays, because it's
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: something that they're used to seeing all the dang time.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: It's going to piss me off. They're going to see success.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be like, are you shitting me? This
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: is a joke, right? Like, you're kidding me that you're
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: so used to this look from our defense that you're like, oh, yeah,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I'm at home now. This is normal. You're going to
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: do normal stuff. It'll make me mad. We'll break that
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: down more when we talk about Georgia because Georgia has
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: been putting BTA to a lot. And yeah, the bounce
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: back needs to be big. I don't know how. Somebody's
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: got to wake up on offense and say, guys, we
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: got to stop listening to this dude. Let's go in
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: there and let's play for pride. Let's play for the
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: other side of the ball. Play for the flipping defense.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Let's do what we can to keep them off the field.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Because like you said, Coop, Once you go to Georgia,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: you get the bye week, so you get additional week
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: of rest. This was supposed to be an extra week
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: of rest for a lot of your starters. You play
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: against Georgia, you get the week of rest, you play Texas,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: and then it's just straight football. Every week. No more byes.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: You only got one bye. Post-Georgia, Georgia is your last
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: game before your bye. You have your bye, and then
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: from there, it's straight. You have to... Play this game
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: against Georgia like your life depends on it. And it's
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: going to annoy me that it's going to potentially be closer.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Because I don't think Georgia is going to put much
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: on tape on this game. They're going to try to
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: go out there and just get the lead and just coast.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Because why risk your bodies if you don't have to?
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: And I would calm down on the Georgia only threw
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: for 100 some odd yards because... At one point, I
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: think their quarterback was averaging like 29 yards a carry.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Every single time that they, you know, their wide receivers
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: were not getting separation. But Stockton just took off running.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: And he had a 65-yard touchdown run. I think he
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: had another 45-yard on a drop back. He had, you know,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: 20– what did he run for? Over 100 yards.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: He ran for 97 yards. Seven carries, 97 yards with
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: a 62-yarder as his long. They finished the game with
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: 254 yards on the ground against Arkansas.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: And that's– I do think Georgia has an issue at
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: wide receiver, creating separation. Separation. But and I don't think
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: that Stockton is going to be able to take off
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: running like that against us. But you can't have like
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: a Trinidad Chambliss type of game from last year to
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: where he just barely gets enough every time and just
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: ruins what you're doing.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: What's the weather? What's the weather like out there? I
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: know that it's supposed to be nicer when I go
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: out there this week, which I am going to be
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: at the game. I cannot wait to go between the
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: hedges and see the stadium. I am excited about it. But,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: you know, all the lightning storms and stuff that's been
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: going out east or whatnot, Coop, like all those storms
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: has been coming out. Like Tampa Bay was just was
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: just delayed for like three hours and they went out there,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: finally finished the last two minutes and lost. Dang it.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: But all them storms out there, man. As long as
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: the field isn't ridiculous like it was when we played
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss, we shouldn't be slipping and falling around in
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: this game.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: It looks like it's going to rain up until Tuesday,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: and then it's going to be dry Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: 80-degree high, 52 low. So it looks like– I think
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: that we are out of this ridiculous heat. I think
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: today is the last day that we're going to be
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: in the 90s. But– All that being said, Jay, just,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: you know, defense needs to go out there and play
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: sound for the rest of the season. Go out there,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: play sound. Don't try hero ball. Play within yourself. You're
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: going to get a lot of guys back this week.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: We're going to hear that. On offense, you're also going
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: to get a lot of guys back. The offensive line,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I think, should be good to go. Now you hope
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: that Fasusi can come back in because Fojay at left
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: tackle probably is not going to go the way that
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: you want it to go. Long term, no.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: That was a patchwork piece. You need him back on
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: the right side desperately.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: And at this point, I think I'm– I love that
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Ryan's got a phenomenal skill set to where he can
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: bounce all over the place. So far he's played right tackle,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: right guard, center, left tackle. I don't know. I think
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: it's now time to where if you can get your
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: lineup set up how it's supposed to go, instead of
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: switching guys around for your quote-unquote best five, I think
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: we need to abandon that. Because I would almost rather
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: say get your best guy at each position. So that
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: may mean having a freshman at left tackle if a
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Susie gets dinged up. But I think that you need
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: to at least have– Because I think that when you're
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: rotating these guys all over the place, you don't develop
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: any unity. And I would rather have Deacon Schmidt playing
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: left tackle and then go with EPL, Mykola, Fojay, and
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Amarian Harris, and at least keep those four guys working
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: no matter what happens at left tackle. Because then you
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: can say, well, let's help with a tight end over there.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Whereas if you're switching guys all over the place, And
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: I saw somebody who said something here a few minutes
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: into the chat where you have four guys who play
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: their position very, very well, and then you have one
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: guy or one guy on the offensive line and a
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: tight end just crap the bed, and it blows everything up.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: So I'm kind of done with the put your best
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: five out there thing. I'm in for... put guys out
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: there who know their position and are, and are at
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: the best at the position. I love Ryan Fogey. I
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: don't want him playing left tackle anymore. Yeah.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I think we're past that part. Noah best gets banged up.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I think he had his elbow wrapped up or something
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: in the game, which is always the worst part. This
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: defense has got a, they're, they're eating it up on
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the tackles for loss. Um, I've got questions as to
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: what we can do to do a quarterback. The question is,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: do you just go ahead and bench him for Georgia?
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: They're not. They should. That also tells you just the
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: biggest challenge in college football is having is the depth
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: at quarterback.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Ain't nobody got it.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, you look at... It's now kind of invading
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: the NFL, too. When you continually are running 40... I mean, dudes... Like, listen, Jay,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: you and I are a week apart, right? Age-wise. I'm
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: obviously older, so that means something.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I'm old, yes.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: But... There's no way Aaron Rodgers should still be playing
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. There's no way Kirk Cousins should be
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: playing in the NFL anymore. But it's just there's no
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: depth in the quarterback position. And I don't know what
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: it is. And maybe it's the running stuff and the
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: escapability and the ability to run around is so relied
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: upon in college football and in the NFL. You can
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: get away with it for a season. I mean, look
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: at Jaden Daniels. Jaden Daniels, RG3 Part 2. I called
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: it year one. I said, dude's not going to do it.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: I'm calling it with Sam Leavitt. You can't do that life.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: And if you do, I mean, you've got to be
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: a short, stout son of a gun like Pavia. But
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I don't like the quarterback run game being a big,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: big part of your long-term success. And at this point,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: you know, listen, you know, for Oklahoma, do I think
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: John Mateer gets benched? I think at this point it
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: does not matter. So I think if you guys are
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: wanting John Mateer to be benched, it's probably coming if
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: he continues. Because at this point, there's no reason to
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: massage that agreement and everything because you're looking at firing
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: the guy who brought him in. You're looking at firing him,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: and anybody needs anything. Now, guys, I'm going to ask
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: you to pump the brakes on the Michael Hawkins stuff.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: We all saw Michael Hawkins last year here. He played
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: against Kent State, which was one of the worst teams
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: in college football, and he could not do some of
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: the stuff that he's doing with West Virginia. So is
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: it the offensive coordinator that is the issue for that?
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: We didn't choose John Mateer over Michael Hawkins. We wanted both,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: and that just wasn't going to happen.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the other thing to add to that is
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: it would have been nice to keep Hawkins. I'm glad
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Hawkins is at West Virginia. He's flourishing. I need him
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: to be somewhere he can flourish. He wasn't flourishing here.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: His skill set did not mesh with Arbuckle, and it
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: just didn't. So we're going to see. I mean, you
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: hope that John Mateer still something happens, and maybe– Brent
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Venables finally– and that's the thing is like a lot
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: of us were still frustrated Brent Venables calling out the
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: defense and pointing out where the defense– five or six
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: plays that you could have done better. The defense has
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: not been the issue. Again, you are now giving up,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, 16 points this season on defense. And a
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: lot of that has because the offensive stank. But the
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: defense is not going to shut everybody out. And there's
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: a simple reason why. And it's not because the defense
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: is not good enough to shut them out. It's because
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: the offense will continue to put them in such crappy positions.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: And your offense is offensive. And so whatever you need
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: to do, maybe you need to get to everybody in
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: the same room and say, all right, we've seen what
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: everybody's doing offensively against us. We want to do the opposite.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: You need to unleash it. John Mateer needs to be
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: loosening up the defense. We talked about it going into
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: this game. I don't care if it goes five yards
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: out of bounds. Throw the ball deep. Let's go. Because
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I'd rather John Mateer throw an interception 45 yards downfield
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: rather than throwing behind. And he threw behind guys several
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: times and got bailed out by the receivers. There were
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: multiple times. Parker Livingston had one. One of the tight ends,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I think Rocky Beers had one. Satania had one to
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: where they basically are running and they've got to stop
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: and reach backwards to catch the ball. So I'm not
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: going to have any complaints against the receivers and the
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: tight ends from a reception standpoint. He's got to be
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: better because at this point you go, all right, buddy.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I would venture to say Witt gets some first-team snaps
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: this week. Because you have to prepare for Witt to
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: potentially go into the game. And even John running the ball,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: it's not going well. It's the indecision. He's just indecisive
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: about everything. But he was under center quite a bit.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: And there were several times that I was like, thank
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: God he's under center. And I'm still happy about that.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: So it looks like they kind of made an adjustment
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: from last week. So you kind of make another adjustment
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: for this week. And you just can't lose the game
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: on offense this week. It's going to be hard enough.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just....
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Because I don't want to see a scuffle on the
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: sidelines because guys come off, make a big stop, they
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: punt the ball, and then two plays later, they're back
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: on again.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Because.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: The weather's going to be better if it's going to
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: be 70-something degrees in Athens this weekend. The weather's going
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: to be better.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: It's going to be lovely.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: If Georgia– listen, if I'm Kirby Smart, I'm just kind
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: of giggling. Bobo and Smart need to be giggling right
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: now because you just go, all right, when your offense
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: is as putrid as it has been the past– I mean,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: since Dylan was here. you have to understand that that
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: puts no pressure on the other team's offense. They don't
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: have to go for explosive plays because their thing is,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: we have a competent offense. We've got enough great players.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: And against Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Georgia, Texas, maybe A
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: & M, every single one of those teams goes, Guys,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: we're good enough, even against that defense, whether it's number
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: one or number ten in the country, we're good enough
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: to eventually get something. And every single offensive coordinator is thinking,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: we just got to score 17 and we're going to win.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Score 17 and you're good.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Because of New Mexico, if New Mexico is doing that
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: to your defense.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: They have zero worries. They're just looking to feel like, oh,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: we're good.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Listen, I think John Mateer at this point, since the injury,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: whatever it is, maybe he's trying to fix too many things.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: So maybe the conversation with John Mateer is like, you
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: know what? Screw the thoughts about your footwork, your arm mechanics,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: everything like that. You just go out there and play
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: ball backyard style the way that you want to play.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: And maybe he loosens up a little bit. But I
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: think he's so worried about so many different things, the
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: offensive line, the running game, not smacking his hand on
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: the top of somebody's helmet, and the receivers running the
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: right routes, the tight ends blocking, everything that he's worried about.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's time for you just to go, hey, John,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: just go out there and play football. Act like you're
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: back in the backyard, whatever coach speak you need to have.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: But if you see– more of the same this week
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: out of the offensive staff, somebody's job needs to disappear. Yeah.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: And I, and I like, I see in the comments,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: it's a good point. Like John doesn't look like he
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: can run. His running is even like putrid. Like he
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: can't figure out how to run. It's like to me,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: it's funny. I watch him stutter on his scrambles and
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like, dog, are you trying to tear your ACL?
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Is that your goal? Because it feels like that's your goal.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: It feels like your goal is to tear something up
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: and hurt yourself. What are we doing? So yeah, it's
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: just like everything about him just got worse. It went
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: completely backwards from all of the, I've worked with this guy.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, he sat down with Sam Bradford. I mean,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I don't understand how that didn't fix anything. Nothing came
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: from it. Well, at least you saw a little bit
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: against UTEP.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: So we got that going for us. It's... It's... Listen,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: and I understand. If one of the staffers, if one
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: of the coaching staffs watching this, all we want to
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: see is something that reflects... The hype and progress. That's
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: all we want to see is progress. But it seems
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: like it's regressing. And I don't. Bill Biedenboe, I've loved
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: you every single season and I have vouched for you.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: But at this point, I don't care if the offensive
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: line doesn't get better. Maybe it's time for a new place.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Because move to analyst, move to analyst.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Let me just enjoy being an analyst here.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Losing, losing anybody on the soft. Like there's nobody on
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: this offensive line at this point that you're like, well,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I don't want to lose him because I don't like, listen, I,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Michael for Susie. I love Mike. Want Mike to finish
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: this year, play next year, go to the NFL draft.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: That's what I want out of him. But at the
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: same time, keeping Bill because of a single player at
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: this point no longer matters because Mike is not going
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: to fix this entire offensive line. And we have not
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: seen a good offensive line since Jalen Hurts. We've seen
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Anton Harrison. The thing about it, Anton Harrison, Creed Humphrey,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: and Tyler Guyton all have played better in the NFL
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: than they were playing here their last years. Creed's last
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: year here was kind of rough. He didn't, I mean,
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: he wasn't crushing it. And I don't know if somebody
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: mentioned that Bill can't do anything out unless it's from
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: the spread. And if that's the case, listen, we've loved him,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: but it's time to go. I mean, it's the sadness
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: of firing Josh Heupel It's the sadness of firing Jeff
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Levy or allowing him to move on, encouraging him to
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: move on. And if you're a fan base of another team,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: if you're a fan of another team, Alabama, Texas, whatever,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, come get your shots because this offensive
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: side of the ball has just been mismanaged for way
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: too long, and it's horrendous. And Brent has changed the
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: defense significantly. But I no longer believe that Brent has
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: any idea what it takes to be successful on offense.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: I got zero faith in that.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: I never thought he did, period. The problem is you're
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: going to go through offensive coordinators. I understand people are like,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: how many do we have to go through before? A lot,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: and it's not going to stop. It's one of those
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: things where, let's put it this way, If your offensive
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: coordinator sucks, you fire him after a year or two
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: and you get somebody else, right? Your offensive coordinator is good.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Guess what happens? They get another job within one to
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: two years. You're going to be cycling through coordinators no
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: matter what. We just want you to cycle through coordinators
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: because they're getting jobs. That's what we're looking for. Don't
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: try to find a guy that's going to be a
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: lifer for you. Unless you go find yourself an older
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: former head coach that's like, yeah, I'm tired. I don't
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: even want to be a head coach. I just want
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: to come in here, run my offense and chill. Maybe
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: like a Chip Kelly-ish type.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Nah.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: You're not going, all you're going to do is keep
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: shuffling through offensive coordinators. You are guaranteed to. And in
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of situations, offensive coordinators that stay at one
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: job aren't staying there because they just don't want to
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: go be a head coach no more. But it's rare
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: to find those. You got to find them in a
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: good spot. You're also going to find them that aren't complacent,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: that's just comfortable with being where they're at. That's what
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: people don't realize. It's going to be forever. You're going
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: to be changing OCs literally every two to four years.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Minimum.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: You might have to do it every year. Go look
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: at Saban in his era. Granted, he had it in
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: the greatest era because he could stack talent, so his
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: defense was always just insane. But that dude went one time,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: I think he had like four years in a row
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: he had new offensive coordinators. And I think those were
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: the years they actually lost to Clemson for natties. But
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: it's going to happen. It's hard. Saban said it on,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: actually I got Darth Odysseus decide to post it in
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: the court. And he gave me a little props for
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: it because this is what I've been yelling. Saban talked
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: about it on game day, if I'm correct, Saturday. He
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: said the hardest thing for him was hiring coordinators. Kirby
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: was there for nine years. The first nine years of
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: his coaching, Kirby Smart was with him. Kirby waited to
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: the job he wanted, came open, and he got it.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Similar to Dabo at Clemson, BV was there, and then
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: BV finally got the job he wanted, and he left
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: for it. But Saban said the hardest thing for him
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: was hiring coordinators. That was his biggest challenge. BV's going
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: through it now. It took Kirby, what, seven years? for
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: him to go win the natty. We're on year five
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: with BV. I think Kirby went through four coordinators, three
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: coordinators in that time.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: The point is, I don't think that you saw, and again,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: if you were one of the people said, we need
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Kane Arbuckle after last season, turns out you're right. Because
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: we didn't see improvement. There was not improvement throughout the season.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: And it's hard with the injuries that you deal with
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: with John, injuries that you deal with on the offensive line,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: the youth that you have there. But if you can't
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: come in and show progress throughout the season, rinse, wash, repeat.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: And guess what? It won't matter. Nobody's going to think
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: about it. I don't care if they say, well, hey,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be an OC at OU because
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: you do a bad in your first year, you're gone.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: I promise you this. You do it in Alabama, you're gone.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: You do it at Ohio State, you're gone. And sometimes
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: it looks like the OC got a head coaching job.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: But this is a program where our goal is national championships.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: And I think that I've deflected quite a bit with
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: it's the new standard and it's not being held up to.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: And it's because of one side of the ball.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where the challenge comes in. Shout out to D,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: appreciate the five bucks. BV needs to look at it
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: this way. With the OC, it can't be any worse
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: moving on. Man, if not, people are going to start
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: looking at you. It's time to move on. It's okay.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I 100% agree. You look at it, man, you got
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: to move on. It's okay to move on. Got to
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: move on. And Jonathan, to this point, yes, Saban had
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: his own offense and he made people run his offense.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: And they changed that when they got to what lane,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: when they modernized it, because all they did was ran power. Oh,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: they were in a power offense. They ran it down
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: your throat, but they also recruited like crazy to get
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: dudes to just be able to run it down your
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: throat all the time. They barely passed it. They didn't
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: have to, but then you had the Devante's and all
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: of that stuff that came through and it changed. Kiffin
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: was a part of that. And then he, of course
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: he fired Kiffin before the national championship because Kiffin was,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: you know, Lane Kiffin, but looking at this, hear me out.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Kirby Smart takes the job first year, eight and five.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Second year, we should have knocked him out of going
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: to the national championship, but he ended up playing national
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: championship his second year because of us. Shout out Lane Kiffin.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, Lincoln Riley on that one. But he had
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Jim Chaney as his offensive coordinator year two. They played
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: in that game. The next year, he kept Chaney again.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: They lost in the SEC Championship, and then he lost
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: to Texas in the bowl game. Chaney was gone. That's
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: his first OC. James Cooley came in as the offensive coordinator.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: He lasted one season and got demoted. Todd Munkin came in.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: That's two. So we're on Munkin, which is now three.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Moved on, and then Munkin won himself a natty, won
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: himself a second natty, and now they're on Bobo. Four OCs.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: They're on his fourth OC. But Bobo had been there
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: on staff the entire time. That's the difference. He had
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: a situation where he had a guy that did not
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: want to go anywhere. Bobo enjoyed his time there. Bobo was...
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: He enjoyed being there at.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: You know, so actually he's at Georgia in 2022. I
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: don't know why it says nine seasons there. He was
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: there for a couple years. So like he, Kirby... Yeah,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: because he came in, he was there from 01 to
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: 06 under Mark Wright, from 07 to 14 under Wright.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: So he's there technically nine years at Georgia. He left,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: went to South Carolina, went to Auburn, and then he
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: came back to Georgia and said, you know what? I
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: don't want to do this head coaching thing. I was
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: the interim head coach for South Carolina and I hated it.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Bobo was a Georgia Bulldog for life. The thing that
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: I've said that Cignetti has success is he has dudes
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: that have been with him from the first time he
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: became a head coach. They grew up in the ranks
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: with him. He built that trust and built that with him.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Cignetti was on those early Bama teams and said, you know,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I want to be a head coach. He did that.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: BV's just got it hard. He's just going to have
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: to figure it out. He needs to find an OC
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: to build him an offense that shows success. Hell, He
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: needs to call Levy and ask him to help him
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: build an offense and then bring in coaches to run
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: it or something.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Listen. Something. And it may not– and I'm kind of
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: in agreement with you. It's not go out and find–
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's– I mean, listen. I don't
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: know if it's go out and find the next up-and-comer
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: and hope that they can come from a P5, P6
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: group or whatever and then come here. Like, I'm serious.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: I'm serious. Go hire neck brace. Get Bobby Petrino. Bring
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: his ass here. Because he is successful. He makes... Arkansas
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: had a pretty damn good offense last year. I mean,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: am I wrong?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: He said bring neck brace in. He does run a
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: pro-style offense, and it's pretty... I mean... It's funny because
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: when Lamar Jackson was in the draft and they were like, well,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: you're not going to be a really real college offense here.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: And they're like, dog, he played for Bobby Petrino at Louisville.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: They ran a pro-style offense, a pro-style spread. That was
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: a pro offense. That's why Lamar was able to come
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: in and be successful early. He was running a pro
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: offense there under Petrino. That's what they do. So yeah,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: I'd be down. Sure.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: When he was at Arkansas, he was winning. He didn't
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: get fired because he was losing. He got fired because
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: he was messing around.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Where is he now?
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: North Carolina.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: That's why North Carolina was looking good to start the year.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Their defense just couldn't stop a nosebleed.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: He's under Belichick over there at North Carolina.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I knew he went somewhere where it didn't make
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of sense.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: He disappeared. It's like the whole joke of, it's like
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: he got exiled or something. You go there to disappear.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, obviously, with all the press clippings
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: that come from North Carolina, he can hide behind it
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: because there's a bigger shit show out in front of
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: him than him being it.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: But that's where you need to go. And I don't think, listen,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: I firmly believe that There were a lot of OCs
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: that were on the docket, and Arbuckle ended up being
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: a cheaper option. So instead of shopping at Target, we
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: went to Aldi. And we hoped that it would work.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Schemes are going to work. Again, the JMU stuff, going
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: to Indiana. I just don't know if I... Brent Venables cannot...
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Endure or make it through another young guy from another
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: school with promise and it comes here and the system
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: doesn't work. It won't work.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Go get Bobby or go get his little brother, Paul Petrino.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: They're both OCs. Get him. Heck, go call... What is
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Sam Pittman doing with his life?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I can get behind Sam Pippen.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I can. But, you know, yeah.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: He was a.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Line coach at Georgia for a few years, and they
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: were pretty good. He's from Oklahoma. He's coached at Oklahoma before.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: So is the Tiger King, but I don't want him around. offense.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't bring it. I'd bring him in as an
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: analyst on the offensive line, at least. It couldn't be worse.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Just saying, man. Look, I'm just trying to find whatever
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: we can figure out here. Just because you weren't successful
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: as a head coach doesn't mean you can't be successful
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: as a coordinator. We've seen that before. We've seen coordinators
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: fall from the head coaching spot and be very good
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: as a coordinator. We've seen them come from head coach
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: to coordinator and be really good. Pittman will be nice
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: on O-line. I want Lodeholt back.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Or Lodeholt, yeah.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Bring Lodeholt back if you can. I'd love to have
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: him back. I mean, he did some decent stuff there
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: at Colorado in his first stint. Go to Mississippi State
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: and look at what they're doing now. I'd love to
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: have Lodeholt. Pay him, bring him back.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: I'd take Pittman, too. I can promise you that the
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: reason why I think Lodeholt is so good, Lodeholt was
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: a giant, right? What was he, like 6'7, 340 pounds,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: something like that. He was a giant, and he just
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: had trouble with the movement. I think that he He
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: was on a great offensive line here. If I'm not mistaken,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: he was here during Bradford and Landry. He was part
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: of a really, really good offensive line. Orlando Brown was
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: during that time too, I believe. We've had better offensive
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: lines with worse players than what we're getting right now.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: I think that the biggest thing is– You need to
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: bring in an OC. I think in the offseason, you
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: need to bring in some older offensive linemen. And, you know,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: I'm okay with a couple guys who are, you know,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: all Mac or something like that just for some good
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: depth and fight out with some of the younger kids.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: But it's been too many people have been calling for
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: Bedebo's job. And I think that the class of Fasusi
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: and Fojay, I think that saved his can. But, again,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: in the chat, seeing another person say, Maybe it's just
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: time to go because you don't get enough guys. It
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: doesn't seem like we've had the depth. We've continued on
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: offense to put younger guys up against this veteran nasty
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: defense and it ends up in injuries pretty consistently because
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: it's just young guys rotating and a lot of injuries.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: They're just out there trying to go. I don't want
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: it to get to a point to where I think
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: we're to the point. I think we're to the point
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: to where, like, Emma Jones no longer needs a pay raise.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: He needs a new place.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: The challenge is, man, something that is just, yeah, we're
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: going to need to bring in just full cleaning of
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: the crib. I'm blanking on his name.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: Who was the Kansas State quarterback, went to Ohio State.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: Help me out here. The past couple years, Will Howard.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Say that again.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: Will Howard. So Will Howard goes to Ohio State, and
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: he looked– I mean, we all knew Will Howard was
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: what he was. But when you're throwing to five-star after
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: five-star after five-star receiver, JSN, uh, Marvin Harrison, who sucks
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, but he was great. Ohio state, um,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: Chris Alave, uh, you know, there's so many guys, you know,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: you can be a efficient quarterback. And if you're throwing
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: the guys like that, you know, snap in and snap out.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: But the deal is, is we, we don't have a
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: great offensive line. We don't have a good quarterback. You
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: don't have dominant receivers. And as great as Satania is,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: you need some guys who are going to out physical
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith isn't great because he's fast he isn't great
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: because he's got great hands he's great because he is
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: super physical he's got great body control he's a great
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: route runner and then you have the speed the hands
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: and everything else like he is a five tool receiver
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: exactly we have we haven't had that since cd.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's been a while it's been it's been that
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: long so Oh, man.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:13:29
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• 1:13:34
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